IT'S TIME.

Wow AL got overall #1? I was not expecting dat

I've never been so repulsed by a college basketball team in all my days.

No midwest for us.

Terrible

we'll get Arkansas in the 8/9, and Uconn in the 4/5.

TX will knock off Houston

Wow thx NCAA

@Jethro said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

we'll get Arkansas in the 8/9, and Uconn in the 4/5.

yeppp

Midwest is setup nicely for TX

Texas gets a great draw.
ISU goes to NC instead of Des Moines?
Bend over here it comes.

IDK, we lost by 20 yesterday, no McCullars of course, I guess, I wasn't expecting to be handed the keys to the kingdom. I think we're fine whereever they place us.

St. Mary's love I don't get.

Illinois a potential 2nd round matchup scares me a bit.

Woof. UConn is a damn good team.

@wissox said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

Illinois a potential 2nd round matchup scares me a bit.

Arkansas is a fair bit better and would give us real problems. Thankfully their coach is kind of a bozo.

@Kcmatt7 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

Woof. UConn is a damn good team.

Don't think we get that far tbh

UConn, TCU and Arkansas all underseeded. Pretty tough draw tbh.

@wissox said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

Illinois a potential 2nd round matchup scares me a bit.

Not worried a bit. They won't get past Arkansas.

This is 2007 dejavu again

@BShark I'm not super stoked about how this panned out. Have to think if we don't get our asses whooped yesterday that we get the midwest.

I take it they don't want a repeat champion.

So far Midwest is easiest bracket IMO

Arkansas is a really similar team to Texas. Can't really shoot. But they can play defense and the length will bother us. Not quite as good as Texas though, and a reason they lost 13 games.

@Kcmatt7 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

and a reason they lost 13 games.

Musssssss

UCLA is a 2 seed in West, committee $crxxxd KU

We got hosed, but I still think we have a good shot at the FF.

@AsadZ I think UT has a tough first weekend tbh. But overall Midwest would have been a great place to be.

@Jethro no joke gotta beat some good teams.

Arkansas can beat us easily they are what we struggle against

Zags 3 seed out west along with ucla

No way we make it out of this bracket

@kuballin10 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@Jethro no joke gotta beat some good teams.

Arkansas can beat us easily they are what we struggle against

Zags 3 seed out west along with ucla

No way we make it out of this bracket

You said that last year.

I think we can make it out of the bracket, but margin for error is so, so, so slim. Starters will have to make it happen. No Remy to save the day.

@Jethro I was afraid of Auburn that was it. Once they were eliminated it was perfect setup for us

Iowa is a joke plays zero defense ect (last year and this year)

This is the draw we didn’t want

The East is very easy.

Definitely feels like the toughest bracket on paper but all that can change with upsets and madness.

My goal is win 2 and see what happens.

@kuballin10 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@Jethro I was afraid of Auburn that was it. Once they were eliminated it was perfect setup for us

Iowa is a joke plays zero defense ect (last year and this year)

This is the draw we didn’t want

I'll let you worry about it. I'm not concerned.

How many did the big 12 get in overall?

KSU can kick UK's rear end

Just hoping to see UK and KSU upset by the same 11 seed at this point. East is pretty weak.

No North Carolina. Lol.

Well we start in Des Moins - -KC after that ?

@jayballer67 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

Well we start in Des Moins - -KC after that ?

Vegas

I've watched all of the Razorback games this year in my role as a dutiful hubby. If we can force 20 turnovers and rebound no problem, Actually out of the match ups this one would be okay because they are not averse to 25 point first halves either.

Bold Prediction: KU vs. Texas in the FF.

@Jethro said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

Bold Prediction: KU vs. Texas in the FF.

Hell yeah.

jobbed

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LOL

Apparently we need to dial back our SOS, Houston has one at 96 we are 1 but it didn’t help

@benshawks08 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

How many did the big 12 get in overall?

Seven

I think they screwed the B12 to the wall.

Every year we have the hardest bracket,, the NCAA is out to punish us any way possible, there is not enough media respect for KU, etc etc etc. Y'all are certainly entertaining!

Bottom line: You play the game in front of you, one at a time. We only play 4 teams out of the 15 others in our bracket, and only 1 from the other half. Might win out, might not! Enjoy it!!!

The huge money making conference tourneys are only a big deal because of the automatic bids potential for lesser teams.

@mayjay said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

Every year we have the hardest bracket,, the NCAA is out to punish us any way possible, there is not enough media respect for KU, etc etc etc. Y'all are certainly entertaining!

Bottom line: You play the game in front of you, one at a time. We only play 4 teams out of the 15 others in our bracket, and only 1 from the other half. Might win out, might not! Enjoy it!!!

The thread has this name for a reason! Tradition lmaoo

I actually don't mind our region. I think it's one of the easier ones. Once we get past the 8/9 it falls really nicely for us. I think the South and Midwest are harder.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

I actually don't mind our region. I think it's one of the easier ones. Once we get past the 8/9 it falls really nicely for us. I think the South and Midwest are harder.

Digging into our 8/9 possibilities and it isn't the worst.

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@kjayhawks said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

Apparently we need to dial back our SOS, Houston has one at 96 we are 1 but it didn’t help

Our schedule is the only reason that we had a chance to be a #1 seed. If we play any weaker of a schedule we're a 2 or 3 seed.

@mayjay said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

Every year we have the hardest bracket,, the NCAA is out to punish us any way possible, there is not enough media respect for KU, etc etc etc. Y'all are certainly entertaining!

Bottom line: You play the game in front of you, one at a time. We only play 4 teams out of the 15 others in our bracket, and only 1 from the other half. Might win out, might not! Enjoy it!!!

Even the game announcers call us Kansas State.

Truth is, you can't get smoked by the same team twice in the last week. So, they hammered us.

I'd trade brackets with KSU tbh

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@mayjay said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

Every year we have the hardest bracket,, the NCAA is out to punish us any way possible, there is not enough media respect for KU, etc etc etc. Y'all are certainly entertaining!

Bottom line: You play the game in front of you, one at a time. We only play 4 teams out of the 15 others in our bracket, and only 1 from the other half. Might win out, might not! Enjoy it!!!

Even the game announcers call us Kansas State.

And K-State calls us "Daddy".

@Jethro

No doubt we opened that door.

And that's fine. I think our region is easier than the Midwest. Gotta earn it no matter what.

@mayjay said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

Every year we have the hardest bracket,, the NCAA is out to punish us any way possible, there is not enough media respect for KU, etc etc etc. Y'all are certainly entertaining!

Bottom line: You play the game in front of you, one at a time. We only play 4 teams out of the 15 others in our bracket, and only 1 from the other half. Might win out, might not! Enjoy it!!!

The conspiracy lives!

The criteria that the committee use is completely selective from year to year

Knower of ball Jay Wright picked us to make the FF.

@bskeet said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

The criteria that the committee use is completely selective from year to year

This is very frustrating for sure.

@bskeet said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

The criteria that the committee use is completely selective from year to year

It's whatever they want it to be. They lay out the criteria, then completely ignore it.

Used to be all about Quad 1 wins and SoS. This year, it's about who's injured, who's coaching, and Quad 1 & 2 wins vs losses and how big the losses were.

I do think UConn is going to have its work cut out for them game 1. Who would want to face Rick Pitino with a week to prep? lol

I'm not even going to worry about UCLA at this point because there's some really good teams we'd have potentially play before then. Also, UCLA without Jaylen Clark is a lot less scary than with him. Also potentially missing Adem Bona is a blow to their depth. At this point, I don't think they get past Gonzaga.

I actually really like our draw for the most part, assuming McCullar can play. Arkansas is good enough to give KU issues, but they can't shoot worth a damn. None of their current rotation guys are even at 35% from 3 so keep them out of the paint on defense and force them to beat you from deep.

Illinois depends on two ex-Big 12 players that KU is going to be very familiar with in Terrance Shannon and Matt Mayer.

UConn doesn't scare me because they don't have a PG and KU's defense should be able to turn them over. Sanogo can cause issues for Kansas, but our backcourt should be able turn them over.

St. Mary's is who concerns me the most in this half of the region because of their defense and snail's pace of play. We don't play well at half court, slow down games and they can do that to KU.

As for the bottom half of the bracket, Jaylen Clark and possibly Bona is a bog deal for UCLA. Jacquez and Wilson will put on a damn show if they do play because those are two of the 5 best players in college basketball this season.

Gonzaga doesn't play much defense so KU should score and run with them.

We know TCU can give us fits since they did that twice including the blowout in AFH this season.

@Jethro said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@bskeet said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

The criteria that the committee use is completely selective from year to year

It's whatever they want it to be. They lay out the criteria, then completely ignore it.

I thought that was hilarious. They come up with the NET to emphasize SoS then flatly ignore it. Well then the chair was like well akchually when you include Q2 Houston's record was better. Like homie we didn't play any Q2 games lmao

I honestly get madder the longer I think about it. Both KU and Houston got beat by Double digits in the championship game of their conference. 17 Quad one wins to 7. KU also lost to a top 10 w/o their head coach.

@BShark said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

Knower of ball Jay Wright picked us to make the FF.

Jay Wright picked KU to repeat, not just reach the Final Four. Seth Davis also picked KU to reach Houston which shouldn't be a shock because he's one of the most pro Kansas analysts out there.

Maybe this will give us motivation, last time in KC we got super tight and failed.

@kjayhawks said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

I honestly get madder the longer I think about it. Both KU and Houston got beat by Double digits in the championship game of their conference. 17 Quad one wins to 7. KU also lost to a top 10 w/o their head coach.

And Houston was playing without their best player today.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

Gonzaga doesn’t play much defense so KU should score and run with them.

Agree with everything you said except this one point about Gonzaga who can lock down when they want to. Gonzaga is under the radar. Perfect position for a well coached, veteran and athletic team.

We are not a pick your poison opponent this year. If the most dangerous person in basketball, Grad3y Dick, is put in maximum security each first half then we better have Kevin and our defense on high alert please.

@bskeet said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

Gonzaga doesn’t play much defense so KU should score and run with them.

Agree with everything you said except this one point about Gonzaga who can lock down when they want to. Gonzaga is under the radar. Perfect position for a well coached, veteran and athletic team.

Gonzaga's defense is bad this year. Only Baylor has a worse ranked defense than Gonzaga among the top tournament teams.

I think the easiest paths to at least the E8 are two #2 seeds - Texas and Arizona...

Missouri getting Utah State is hysterical. Utah State is #18 Kenpom, Mizzou is #51.

Legitimate chance Utah State is the Vegas favorite when the lines are set lol.

@DCHawker said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

I think the easiest paths to at least the E8 are two #2 seeds - Texas and Arizona...

Partly because they are both excellent teams. The elite 8 has a chance to be a selection of amazing games.

@bskeet said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@DCHawker said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

I think the easiest paths to at least the E8 are two #2 seeds - Texas and Arizona...

Partly because they are both excellent teams. The elite 8 has a chance to be a selection of amazing games.

Both have 1 seed talent. Moreso than us and Purdon't if I'm being honest.

@benshawks08 But they did put NCState with 1 quad 1 win in the the tournament. Wisconsin doesn't deserve to play in the tournament until you look at the other teams that don't deserve it but are playing anyways. Nevada, 4th in the mountain west and 4 of last 6 losses. Okie State should be playing too.

It's rare I'm trying to make the case for one of my teams to make it but strange logic at work putting some of these teams in there.

@Texas-Hawk-10 either way we got penalized for it, they did not

I do think Purdue's got a tough road. 8/9 matchup is tough. Duke is hot right now and has the size they may actually be able to mess with Edey a bit. Filipowski is sort of his worst nightmare. Guy who is big enough to guard him, but can shoot and dribble around him.

But damn is that bottom of the Midwest bracket objectively easy. Worst 2 seed, worst 3 seed, worst 6 seed all in one bracket.

Arkansas, UConn, and if we get that far UCLA or Gonzaga in the West. Not thrilled with that but I'm confident in Bill and a healthy KU team against any team not named Texas.

Texas A&M being a 7 and Kentucky being a 6 is kind of weird.

B12 is 6-0 against the P12. OSU should have been in over ASU.

@Kcmatt7 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

I do think Purdue's got a tough road. 8/9 matchup is tough. Duke is hot right now and has the size they may actually be able to mess with Edey a bit. Filipowski is sort of his worst nightmare. Guy who is big enough to guard him, but can shoot and dribble around him.

But damn is that bottom of the Midwest bracket objectively easy. Worst 2 seed, worst 3 seed, worst 6 seed all in one bracket.

Ole Painty has one EE ever on his record. 0 FFs. Always bet against.

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Easily the most boring potential matchup is San Diego State vs. Virginia in the 2nd round.

@kjayhawks said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@Texas-Hawk-10 either way we got penalized for it, they did not

I'm glad KU isn't playing in KC. What's KU's record in that building? I know it's not great and KU has rarely played well there whether in December or March.

@Kcmatt7 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

Easily the most boring potential matchup is San Diego State vs. Virginia in the 2nd round.

@Texas-Hawk-10 believe we have a 80% win in that building but we got tight last time.

@Texas-Hawk-10 PG or not, UConn is the team I'm most worried about. They've only lost twice in the last 11 games - 2 pts to Marquette and 3 pts to Creighton. They've beaten Alabama, Marquette, Creighton, Providence, Iowa State, Okie State, Florida and Oregon.

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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@kjayhawks said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@Texas-Hawk-10 either way we got penalized for it, they did not

I'm glad KU isn't playing in KC. What's KU's record in that building? I know it's not great and KU has rarely played well there whether in December or March.

Went back to 16-17, we're 18-4 there. Not bad

Kenpom wise our bracket is nuts but I have talked myself into it. The craziest part is probably the #4 and #11 KP teams being our 4 and 5 seeds. #2 team being a 2 seed when they are missing players isn't too crazy. #8 is our 3 seed. Arkansas and WVU being in the seed range they are isn't surprising because both of those teams had a ton of losses.

KU's bracket - based on Kenpom Rankings.

• 4th best #1 seed
• Best #2 Seed
• Best #3 Seed
• Best #4 Seed
• Best #5 Seed
• 3rd best #6 Seed
• 3rd best #7 Seed
• 2nd best #8 seed (one spot behind Memphis who is top)
• 4th best #9 seed
• 2nd best #10 seed

• 11 seed tbd

• 2nd best #12 Seed
• 2nd best #13 seed
• 2nd best #14 seed
• worst #15 seed
• 3rd best #16 seed

KU's path is hard af.

@Jethro no clue how you do that. Too much heartbreak for me.

Odds we win it every year are better than most but it’s still not going to happen.

I’d admire your confidence just not sure it is logical

@Kcmatt7 Gonna tweet this banger. That's nuts.

We play Thursday at 1pm CST on TBS. This pleases me greatly. I was going to mald if we got Friday night.

@BShark at least it’s not the 11 am game, I was hoping for a little later

@BShark avoiding 11 am - I’ll take it

@BShark said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

We play Thursday at 1pm CST on TBS. This pleases me greatly. I was going to mald if we got Friday night.

Already have my Out of Office scheduled. Very ready

@kuballin10 @kjayhawks I just hate the really late tip times. Perfect world maybe a bit later, just anything before those 9pm and later starts.

@Kcmatt7 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@BShark said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

We play Thursday at 1pm CST on TBS. This pleases me greatly. I was going to mald if we got Friday night.

Already have my Out of Office scheduled. Very ready

THIS IS THE WAY

Phew. Early Thursday games are the best. That way can enjoy the rest of the round in peace.

We have a tough Bracket , Arkansas & Illnois both decent teams but feel like they are no beter then teams from the Big 12 Texas , Baylor K/State.- I think if we can get Kevin Back , If Juan comes out with some purpose /intensity - -our defense could be a big lift.

The Sweet Sixteen/ Great Eight would be a challenge - St Marys or U Conn I think will be a Challenge --- but could be worse. We just have to come out and be aggressive from the word go.

Rotation starting 5 -then Udeh - - Joe Keep Bobby on the dam bench-- don't think you will see much if any MJ- just still seems lost -- looks lik alot of 7 man rotation

Phew. I have work calls I can't miss from 12-2 Eastern on Fridays so this is perfect.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

Phew. Early Thursday games are the best. That way can enjoy the rest of the round in peace.

See Farmer understands.

@DCHawker said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@Texas-Hawk-10 PG or not, UConn is the team I'm most worried about. They've only lost twice in the last 11 games - 2 pts to Marquette and 3 pts to Creighton. They've beaten Alabama, Marquette, Creighton, Providence, Iowa State, Okie State, Florida and Oregon.

That's a potential Sweet 16 match up which means Self would have a minimum of 4 days to prep for a team without a PG. Not worried. UConn also has to deal with a Rick Pitino team with extended time to prep as well.

@jayballer67 Kev is expected to practice either Mon or Tues

I have nothing but complete respect for the UNC fanbase. They certainly deserved more than what they got on the court this year:

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Off the top, the East bracket looks the toughest to emerge from.

West is second.

First games of the weekend never worry me with this staff, it’s the second game that usually gets us. BS win percentage is great in every round but the round of 32 and the elite game is the only one sub .500

Que sera sera....put Doris Day on, and just keep the faith!

Now time to see if the women can survive their embarrassing loss to TCU and sneak into the women's tournament.

@BShark said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@jayballer67 Kev is expected to practice either Mon or Tues

Well thats good to hear, I mean we know he won't be 100 % - but if we can get some meaningful minutes , his defense is a must for us to advance, it's just a must we got to get Grady going more and get something out of Juan - he has JUST GOT to be aggressive mode - pretty simple - he is aggressive scores in double figures- --we win -- he comes out like he does in games like Texas we screwed

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@Kcmatt7 Glad I don't trust Ken Pom

@Kcmatt7 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

KU's bracket - based on Kenpom Rankings.

• 4th best #1 seed
• Best #2 Seed
• Best #3 Seed
• Best #4 Seed
• Best #5 Seed
• 3rd best #6 Seed
• 3rd best #7 Seed
• 2nd best #8 seed (one spot behind Memphis who is top)
• 4th best #9 seed
• 2nd best #10 seed

• 11 seed tbd

• 2nd best #12 Seed
• 2nd best #13 seed
• 2nd best #14 seed
• worst #15 seed
• 3rd best #16 seed

KU's path is hard af.

Thank you NCAA Committee for being soooo...... balanced — er — consistent?

And the KU women fail to make the NCAA Tournament this year. That TCU loss in the first round of the Big 12 Tournament knocked them out of the NCAA tournament.

Non ideal bracket.

I'll remain hopeful we got a run in us. Time for J Will and Juan to lead us back to the Final 4!

From CBSSports.com....

1. Reigning champion Kansas gets jobbed

After Kansas thumbed its nose at the NCAA throughout the FBI case investigating the program and corruption within college basketball, which was adjudicated before the season with mostly meaningless penalties, it doesn't feel like too much of a stretch here to say the committee wasn't incentivized to go out of its way to award the reigning champion Kansas Jayhawks. Maybe that's a little too tin-foil cap theory-like of me, but consider this: Kansas had 17 Quad 1 wins -- four more than No. 1 overall seed Alabama and 10 more than No. 2 overall team Houston -- and landed as the No. 3 overall team.

Kansas still landed on the No. 1 seed line, but in getting passed by as the No. 1 overall seed and getting jumped by Houston, KU did not get to land in the Midwest Region. That pushes the Jayhawks to the West, which is arguably the toughest region of them all. So not only did the Jayhawks not draw a favorable geographic spot, they got a tough region to boot.

@DCHawker the NCAA hates anyone west of the Mississippi River. You could tell they weren’t happy when we won last season. Called us the Kansas City Jayhawks.

@BShark who else did he pick, have been on the rd.

@Crimsonorblue22 Marquette, Texas, Bama

Let’s hope for some upsets in this bracket.

@kjayhawks I guess my wife hates me since she has made that mistake. And she has referred to the Kansas Chiefs, too. Man, I see her true feelings now . . . after 25 years, too.

Well we play at 1:00 Thursday

@mayjay haha poor guy, that was just a small part but to me and the folks I watched the game with they didn’t seem happy at all. Maybe it was just us but North Carolina amnesty association is what most call it in basketball lol

@kjayhawks said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

Maybe this will give us motivation, last time in KC we got super tight and failed.

At least we played. We're not some garbage team like K-State that wasn't even in the tournament.

Well. Does being snubbed a lil and sent out west give this team the Chip it's gonna take to win it all? It's a tough bracket but they can beat anyone. Energized and intense defensive mindset. Everything else works if they start there

Can I say something positive about our draw on this thread? Not sure if that’s allowed but here we go.

This draw could be good for this team mentally. Last years team was trying to prove everyone (bill self in particular) wrong. They’d convinced themselves that no one thought they could win and set out to do just that.

I’m seeing all kinds of stuff about how we are the 3rd or 4th most likely team in our bracket to make the final four. If that doesn’t build @drgnslayr ’s chip I don’t know what will. Everyone talking about Kansas City and how this team had that wrapped up and earned it etc., that was SOFT. You earn things by WINNING GAMES not playing a tough schedule. This team earned the big 12 championship by winning more games. This team LOST the big 12 tourney and the last game in Austin because they thought they’d earned a number 1 seed in the Midwest. It’s wake up time. No one is going to give this team the championship because they won the best league. No one is going to give this team a championship because they played the toughest schedule. Only way to win the championship is to go win. And guess what Jalen, no one thinks you can do it.

@cragarhawk

I can imagine having Self back will be a relief. Hopefully the troops can reset and respond positively

@BeddieKU23 definitely agree. Even though I do think Norm did a pretty good job. It's just different. Who knows. Maybe they will have a renewed vigor just from having Self there and knowing what he went thru and etc. I just want to see them play like we all know they can. Great things will happen

@benshawks08 most last night picked against them and went with UConn. Just like the Chiefs this year, maybe being the underdog is what they need as a little motivation or to help focus.

I don't get the UConn love. I assume it's because ESPN is right down the street. They went undefeated in the non-conference, but they only beat two teams that made the NCAA tournament in non-conference and only have 6 wins over tournament teams total and were 6-6 overall against tournament teams. That's not the hallmark of a great team. Not having a legit PG is their downfall and that's being ignored by a lot of people. I'm not even convinced UConn makes the Sweet 16 as they have to start against Rick Pitino who is still one of two active coaches with multiple national titles and he has time to prepare a game plan against UConn. Iona is going to give UConn all kinds of problems. UConn will probably get St. Mary's in the round of 32 and that's a team that can beat UConn as well as Logan Johnson and Kyle Bowen will cause UConn's backcourt issues.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

I don't get the UConn love. I assume it's because ESPN is right down the street. They went undefeated in the non-conference, but they only beat two teams that made the NCAA tournament in non-conference and only have 6 wins over tournament teams total and were 6-6 overall against tournament teams. That's not the hallmark of a great team. Not having a legit PG is their downfall and that's being ignored by a lot of people. I'm not even convinced UConn makes the Sweet 16 as they have to start against Rick Pitino who is still one of two active coaches with multiple national titles and he has time to prepare a game plan against UConn. Iona is going to give UConn all kinds of problems. UConn will probably get St. Mary's in the round of 32 and that's a team that can beat UConn as well as Logan Johnson and Kyle Bowen will cause UConn's backcourt issues.

I hope you're right.

@cragarhawk said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@BeddieKU23 definitely agree. Even though I do think Norm did a pretty good job. It's just different. Who knows. Maybe they will have a renewed vigor just from having Self there and knowing what he went thru and etc. I just want to see them play like we all know they can. Great things will happen

Stents are only scary the first time. After that, it's old hat. I haven't had one in over 5 years!

@DCHawker said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

From CBSSports.com....

1. Reigning champion Kansas gets jobbed

After Kansas thumbed its nose at the NCAA throughout the FBI case investigating the program and corruption within college basketball, which was adjudicated before the season with mostly meaningless penalties, it doesn't feel like too much of a stretch here to say the committee wasn't incentivized to go out of its way to award the reigning champion Kansas Jayhawks. Maybe that's a little too tin-foil cap theory-like of me, but consider this: Kansas had 17 Quad 1 wins -- four more than No. 1 overall seed Alabama and 10 more than No. 2 overall team Houston -- and landed as the No. 3 overall team.

Kansas still landed on the No. 1 seed line, but in getting passed by as the No. 1 overall seed and getting jumped by Houston, KU did not get to land in the Midwest Region. That pushes the Jayhawks to the West, which is arguably the toughest region of them all. So not only did the Jayhawks not draw a favorable geographic spot, they got a tough region to boot.

Based on Vegas odds, the West is by far the toughest region, at least at the top. 3 of the 6 top betting favorites to cut down the net are in the West (KU, UCLA and Gonzaga). The other regions have just one each. West has betting favorite 2 and 3 seeds, and second favorite 4 seed. From betting standpoint, Midwest is easily the weakest region.

@cragarhawk said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@BeddieKU23 definitely agree. Even though I do think Norm did a pretty good job. It's just different. Who knows. Maybe they will have a renewed vigor just from having Self there and knowing what he went thru and etc. I just want to see them play like we all know they can. Great things will happen

Norm did a great job and got us to the Championship game. How many assistant coaches can do that against the caliber of teams we faced? I would think the list is very short. Very happy we have such a fantastic right-hand man that's done nothing but accept the challenges given to him and succeeded.

I had a thought that the adrenaline of playing for your coach in the circumstances they did on Thursday/Friday worked but then wore off. It was definitely a distraction for the team no matter what they said to the media.

I trust the staff to get these guys in the right mindset for Thursday. No excuses needed. They have to man up

After a murders row (sarcasm font) of 6 opponents in the 2022 (upset induced I understand), we have little room to complain about the west. We also had 7 losses, a mindblowing number of losses for a #1 seed in my opinion. I get the quad 1 wins and all that. We still lost 7 times.

@wissox The bracket looks hard, because of our confidence in the team. It appears to be the #4 bracket with the best 2 seed, but we don’t have to play everyone and as you said upsets happen. Hard to complain too much about being a 1 seed…yet again. Bill is amazing - how many top seeds during his tenure?

@wissox said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

After a murders row (sarcasm font) of 6 opponents in the 2022 (upset induced I understand), we have little room to complain about the west. We also had 7 losses, a mindblowing number of losses for a #1 seed in my opinion. I get the quad 1 wins and all that. We still lost 7 times.

Right there with you. I don’t think any team deserves an easy path but we definitely didn’t. What are we, 8 on kenpom? The metrics don’t love us. We lost a lot of games. Seeds are all perception anyway. Want to prove you’re the best? Win the games. YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME! Lol.

@wissox

How many losses do we have in all the other leagues? Obviously, we can't answer that with a fact, but we know how tough our league was compared to every other one out there.

I agree 7 losses is a lot for a 1 seed. Committee got it right though. UCLA had 5 in a super weak league & Texas was up next after that with 8 losses.

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@benshawks08 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

Can I say something positive about our draw on this thread? Not sure if that’s allowed but here we go.
This draw could be good for this team mentally. Last years team was trying to prove everyone (bill self in particular) wrong. They’d convinced themselves that no one thought they could win and set out to do just that.
I’m seeing all kinds of stuff about how we are the 3rd or 4th most likely team in our bracket to make the final four. If that doesn’t build @drgnslayr ’s chip I don’t know what will. Everyone talking about Kansas City and how this team had that wrapped up and earned it etc., that was SOFT. You earn things by WINNING GAMES not playing a tough schedule. This team earned the big 12 championship by winning more games. This team LOST the big 12 tourney and the last game in Austin because they thought they’d earned a number 1 seed in the Midwest. It’s wake up time. No one is going to give this team the championship because they won the best league. No one is going to give this team a championship because they played the toughest schedule. Only way to win the championship is to go win. And guess what Jalen, no one thinks you can do it.

Soooooo spot on! This is the best opportunity for us! Except for a few losses this year we played our best ball when being pushed by playing good teams. We seldom roll over bad teams.

The biggest reason why most teams don't repeat as champs is they have ZERO chip!

I hope my comments like, "in the 50+ years of my Jayhawk support this is the worse defense I've ever seen in a game" helps these guys realize they are completely unproven. Last year is over. This is all on them and they just played the worst defensive game in over 50 years!

Time they prove to us, their most beloved fans, they are worthy of wearing crimson/blue!

Time for a chip!

They need to take full ownership of this team and are help 100% accountable!

Excuses and whom we play won’t matter come Thursday. Every foe but the first one will likely be a battle. This the NCAA teams will come to play. I’m ready

They been talking about how KU got screwed on their bracket today. -How in the hell do you rank Houston as a higher seeded # 1 then KU. -- this year the NCAA said that Houston had or was 15 -2 in Quad 1 & Quad 2 wins - they took into consideration. - Like they said KU was 21-7 against Quad one with no Quad two. - - Houston had a loss to a Quad 3.

Then they said well They took into account - That Houston lost to Memphis they played without Sasser. - -Which the others said that's fine they could understand BUT KU lost to a higher Ranked team without Kevin. Then they said well they took into account they didn't know if KU would have Coach Self - Again fine but can you tell us that Houston is going to have Sasser for their game ?

We brought out how the NCAA stressed the importance of Quad ! wins was - if your gonna combine Quad 2 & Quad 1 wins - then why should teams schedule such hard non games if your not gonna value the Quad 1's more -- why not just go out and schedule nothing but Quad 2's. - -Again Houston has horrible Quad 3 loss

Then the guys brought up according to the advanced stats -KU has the worst chance of reaching the final four of any # 1 seed since the advanced metrics in the last 20 years. - Saying how hard the West Region obviously the hardest region easily this year - Stating UCLA - - Gon ZAGA - - -& another hd better chance to reach the final four according the metrics then KU out of our region. - -They were going off - - but a lot of good points - -KU should of NEVE been dropped lower then Houston on # 1 seeds. - -Ya Ku got blown out by Texas - -BUT Houston got their ass whipped too, would of been different if they had won. - I thought I was feeling a little sore and why I was hanging onto my ankles

@Jethro I am impressed by your prediction

@dylans said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@wissox The bracket looks hard, because of our confidence in the team. It appears to be the #4 bracket with the best 2 seed, but we don’t have to play everyone and as you said upsets happen. Hard to complain too much about being a 1 seed…yet again. Bill is amazing - how many top seeds during his tenure?

10 #1 seeds in 19 years.

UNC saying No Thanks to NIT.

Terrible decision.

@wissox said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

After a murders row (sarcasm font) of 6 opponents in the 2022 (upset induced I understand), we have little room to complain about the west. We also had 7 losses, a mindblowing number of losses for a #1 seed in my opinion. I get the quad 1 wins and all that. We still lost 7 times.

If we played in the B10, we might've been undefeated.

@AsadZ said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

UNC saying No Thanks to NIT.

Terrible decision.

Don't like it either. When Bill was sent into the hospital, there was exactly one other fanbase that went out of their way to say I hope he's ok- we're praying for him. And it was UNC. I think their fans deserve a better product, and to build some momentum for next year by competing in the NIT. Bad choice, imo.

@AsadZ

Yes... while we quibble over our bracket UNC looks ridiculous and arrogant.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2023/03/13/tom-penders-unc-skip-nit-ncaa-tournament/11464224002/ ↗

What a difference a year makes!

I complain sometimes but I am so grateful we have Self, staff, AD, and the university that knows what it's doing!

@Jethro

I've always considered UNC our "sister school"... I had a little beef over Roy not recruiting east, but otherwise... a high amount of respect... especially for Coach Dean Smith.

I think they are struggling with expectations and results right now. I'd hate to be in their shoes. They were all pretty certain they would return to the FF and have a better result this year.

But sometimes it is important to show humility in life. This is the time for UNC to be humble and sit on their egos.

@drgnslayr said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

But sometimes it is important to show humility in life. This is the time for UNC to be humble and sit on their egos.

I don't blame the fan base- they're pissed!

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

I don't get the UConn love. I assume it's because ESPN is right down the street. They went undefeated in the non-conference, but they only beat two teams that made the NCAA tournament in non-conference and only have 6 wins over tournament teams total and were 6-6 overall against tournament teams. That's not the hallmark of a great team. Not having a legit PG is their downfall and that's being ignored by a lot of people. I'm not even convinced UConn makes the Sweet 16 as they have to start against Rick Pitino who is still one of two active coaches with multiple national titles and he has time to prepare a game plan against UConn. Iona is going to give UConn all kinds of problems. UConn will probably get St. Mary's in the round of 32 and that's a team that can beat UConn as well as Logan Johnson and Kyle Bowen will cause UConn's backcourt issues.

I just looked at UConn's schedule and they've got some nice wins in there, ISU on Nov. 27 which I assume was some island tournament or something, Marquette (whom Wisconsin also beat in Milwaukee), and most impressively Bama. Hard to figure out how to judge thanksgiving vacation tournament wins of which Bama is one as well. But they also lost to Seton Hall whom we destroyed.

@Jethro said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

But sometimes it is important to show humility in life. This is the time for UNC to be humble and sit on their egos.

I don’t blame the fan base- they’re pissed!

Absolutely! But the coaching on up should support an NIT spot. Maybe the truth is they didn't like their chances in the NIT. Then a bad season becomes a worse season!

Not a Purdue believer but this is interesting

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@drgnslayr They could have used NIT to provide minutes to bench players, simply saying No is a Slap on the Face IMO.

@BShark interesting how far back does it go and where did you find?

@kjayhawks said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@BShark interesting how far back does it go and where did you find?

Relatively new site. I think that is as far back as it goes.

@wissox I'm not saying that UConn is a bad team, but I do think they're being massively overhyped by ESPN. 6-6 against fellow tournament teams isn't great and their lack of a PG was a big reason why they were average against other top teams.

@Texas-Hawk-10 I learned my lesson when I decided to look up Northern Iowa's schedule and decided there's no way in Ache EEEE double hockeysticks we're going to lose to that team! I remember thinking they were way overseeded to be an 8. I learned my lesson.

@Jethro Yeah the league was down some, but some might say the #12 team in the league lost by 1 on a controversial call to the defending national champ! So maybe KU wouldn't have gone undefeated in the 10.

@BeddieKU23 It's interesting to speculate. As much as I rip on the SEC, we obviously struggled with Tenny and a road match at Arkansas would be tough. I think Bruce Pearl would coach his heart out trying to beat us, and so I'm thinking we don't run the table there. There's one or two stumbles in the ACC and maybe one in the PACMan conference. Purdue would give us problems because of their center.

Hardest path according to AP poll

KU plays #10,7

Purdue plays #12, 6

Houston plays #16, 5

Alabama plays #14, 8

So while it’s a hard path, KU only has to beat two ranked teams to reach the final four. Alabama, Kansas, and Purdue beat two ranked teams in the same week once this year. Houston beat one ranked team all year.

Jay Bilas picks Uconn over us in the 3rd round.

@wissox said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

Jay Bilas picks Uconn over us in the 3rd round.

Vitale was the only ESPN college basketball talking head that picked KU to reach the Elite 8. They're all slobbering all over UConn this year amd drinking that Kool-Aid right now.

I hope we get a chance to play that 3rd round game --whether UConn or not. Generally, I think a week to prep gives a slight advantage to us over almost any opponent. The 2nd round game is the pivotal game in my mind. It was a very close game last year as well. Could have gone either way. Once we got past Creighton, confidence flowed.

I don't think the bracket is too bad. At least if we see UCLA/GONZAGA, it means were in the E8, and we have to beat a good team regardless. Playing UCONN with 4/5 days to prepare.... not worried. Playing in KC doesn't guarantee anything. Still got bad memories from Oregon... My biggest concern is the R32 game whether its Ark or IL. Remy saved us last year vs Creighton, who will it be this year?

@Eric-san it’s got to be a team effort like during our win streak a few weeks ago. All starts with Juan then trickles down.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@wissox said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

Jay Bilas picks Uconn over us in the 3rd round.

Vitale was the only ESPN college basketball talking head that picked KU to reach the Elite 8. They're all slobbering all over UConn this year amd drinking that Kool-Aid right now.

U Conn has no point guard . They are good - -but they are beatable

@jayballer67 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@wissox said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

Jay Bilas picks Uconn over us in the 3rd round.

Vitale was the only ESPN college basketball talking head that picked KU to reach the Elite 8. They're all slobbering all over UConn this year amd drinking that Kool-Aid right now.

U Conn has no point guard . They are good - -but they are beatable

Have you seen my multiple posts about UConn further up this thread? UConn doesn't worry me much. The teams I'm most concerned about in order are Arkansas, Gonzaga, UCLA, St. Mary's, TCU, UConn and then Illinois.

I still don’t get the UConn hype train all the sudden. I expected Dook to get more hype on a 9 game winning streak.

@kjayhawks said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

I still don’t get the UConn hype train all the sudden. I expected Dook to get more hype on a 9 game winning streak.

There's definitely a hype train for Duke at ESPN. Every single person there has them at least in the Elite 8 and almost all of them have Duke in the Final 4.

I also don't have much issue with the Duke hype at this point because it's more warranted than the UConn hype. Their current 9 game winning streak includes wins over other tournament teams in 4 of their last 5 games. It took Scheyer a bit to figure things out and he's got Duke playing some of the best ball in the country right now. They've only given up 70+ once during their streak so their defense is on point right now and I'm very glad they're not our 5 seed. I know ORU was a popular upset pick before the bracket was revealed, but they got the best 5 seed of the bunch and I don't them having enough to take down Duke.

Self wasn't on bus. Not to surprising.

Stole this:

NCAA Basketball Leaders in Quadrant 1 Wins:

2023 - Kansas: ?

2022 - Kansas: Champ

2021 - Baylor: Champ

2020 - Kansas: #1 AP, season cancelled

2019 - Virginia: Champ

Well I'm off and running lost that game lol.- -I had SEMO - man every time down the floor they fouled - -30 fouls -yet SEMO still had a chance

@jayballer67 me too. Worked at SEMO for 3 years. Wife has a graduate degree from there. They missed too many freethrows and threw the ball away a lot. Refs didn't help. Cape loves their basketball though, so this was a good year for the fans.

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Interesting! Kinda!

Well haven't been able to keep up much the last day. Gotten over 2 feet of snow and counting. Power in and out, no cable/internet. It's a mess!

@BeddieKU23 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

Well haven't been able to keep up much the last day. Gotten over 2 feet of snow and counting. Power in and out, no cable/internet. It's a mess!

Snow ? - -what is Snow lol. - -Hell according to the weather people and Farmers, here in Kansas we were suppose to be in for one hell of a Winter , razy storms. LOL and I think we have had maybe , maybe 4 inches total snow for the entire Wintr Season lol. What is Snow ?

I always get the biggest kick out of it when people here bitch when we get a one or two inch snow talking about how they hate Winter & Snow. I just think and laugh can you imagine how the People on the East Coast think when People say that lol. - -Sorry to hear bud must be a real mess , don't know what people here would do if it actually DID SNOW HERE LOL -hope it doesn't cut your power where you can watch the game my friend

@jayballer67

Thought we were done with big storms but I guess not. 37 inches was the tally this morning and might have gotten more since.

It has been feast or famine in my area most of winter. Is what it is up here in the Northeast.

Well it's not looking good for tomorrow. Still don't have cable/internet. Have power at least. Will have to watch on phone and hope have strong enough signal through cell service.

@BeddieKU23 At least its this game and not the next one...

@BeddieKU23 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@jayballer67

Thought we were done with big storms but I guess not. 37 inches was the tally this morning and might have gotten more since.

It has been feast or famine in my area most of winter. Is what it is up here in the Northeast.

Well it's not looking good for tomorrow. Still don't have cable/internet. Have power at least. Will have to watch on phone and hope have strong enough signal through cell service.

Mercy my friend. - -It's hard for me to imagine things like that - 37 inches in one storm. - -I sure hope you can find a way to watch with no problem. - -you just hang in there , you know I've always heard so much about Lake effect Snow - -is that what your dealing with buddy ?

@jayballer67

We don't get the Lake effect, but this storm just seemed to move slow and keep circling over us and dumping heavy snow. Snowed for 24 straight hours and never slowed down in intensity.

I checked last night and could watch the Dayton games no problem on my phone but would suck to have to watch it through that instead of my 65 inch tv

@Kcmatt7

Not sure I'll have it back before then either. Nobody has any answers on when it might be back working. I have a scheduled tech coming next Tuesday so unless Comcast fixes the issue before then I'm screwed there

@BeddieKU23 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@jayballer67

We don't get the Lake effect, but this storm just seemed to move slow and keep circling over us and dumping heavy snow. Snowed for 24 straight hours and never slowed down in intensity.

I checked last night and could watch the Dayton games no problem on my phone but would suck to have to watch it through that instead of my 65 inch tv

ya that would suck for sure - -hope thigs improve for you so you can watch on the TV - -no problem - -ROCK CHALK

Would love 3” of precipitation. It’s in the 70s today, so it would come with some awesome wind, hail, and tornadoes, but three inches of moisture would be 3/4 of the total amount we had south of town last year. It’s disgusting

Was listening to some media with Norm and such interesting. - - Howard point guard shoots 47 % from the three , Howard loves to get out and run - which that is a BIG bonus for us- they like shooting a lot of 3's - -gotta to guard that line run them off.

Thing is- -Juan has JUST GOT TO come into this tourney in an attack mode from the word go. He has got to start aggressive- - stay aggressive. - -KU a 21 1/2 point favorite not sure if we cover or not

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@BeddieKU23 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

Well haven't been able to keep up much the last day. Gotten over 2 feet of snow and counting. Power in and out, no cable/internet. It's a mess!

Snow ? - -what is Snow lol. - -Hell according to the weather people and Farmers, here in Kansas we were suppose to be in for one hell of a Winter , razy storms. LOL and I think we have had maybe , maybe 4 inches total snow for the entire Wintr Season lol. What is Snow ?

I always get the biggest kick out of it when people here bitch when we get a one or two inch snow talking about how they hate Winter & Snow. I just think and laugh can you imagine how the People on the East Coast think when People say that lol. - -Sorry to hear bud must be a real mess , don't know what people here would do if it actually DID SNOW HERE LOL -hope it doesn't cut your power where you can watch the game my friend

It's going to be in the 30s in Houston on Friday and Saturday. I miss Florida!

@dylans said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

Hardest path according to AP poll

KU plays #10,7

Purdue plays #12, 6

Houston plays #16, 5

Alabama plays #14, 8

So while it’s a hard path, KU only has to beat two ranked teams to reach the final four. Alabama, Kansas, and Purdue beat two ranked teams in the same week once this year. Houston beat one ranked team all year.

That's easier than the B12. So glad when the new conf sked comes out.

@Jethro said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@jayballer67 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@BeddieKU23 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

Well haven't been able to keep up much the last day. Gotten over 2 feet of snow and counting. Power in and out, no cable/internet. It's a mess!

Snow ? - -what is Snow lol. - -Hell according to the weather people and Farmers, here in Kansas we were suppose to be in for one hell of a Winter , razy storms. LOL and I think we have had maybe , maybe 4 inches total snow for the entire Wintr Season lol. What is Snow ?

I always get the biggest kick out of it when people here bitch when we get a one or two inch snow talking about how they hate Winter & Snow. I just think and laugh can you imagine how the People on the East Coast think when People say that lol. - -Sorry to hear bud must be a real mess , don't know what people here would do if it actually DID SNOW HERE LOL -hope it doesn't cut your power where you can watch the game my friend

It's going to be in the 30s in Houston on Friday and Saturday. I miss Florida!

lol I bet you do

@BeddieKU23 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@jayballer67
I checked last night and could watch the Dayton games no problem on my phone but would suck to have to watch it through that instead of my 65 inch tv

Can you use your phone as a hotspot? I connect my laptop to my phone hotspot, pull up the game, and then run a HDMI cable to a hotel/cabin TV now and then when in a pinch.

I can't stand watching basketball on a phone.

@BeddieKU23 Wow, that's a lot of snow. I haven't shoveled yet this year in Chicago.

@BeddieKU23 Looking at a new snowfall map and guessing you live somewhere around Vermont/Hudson valley area. Must be a great place to live!

@DanR said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@BeddieKU23 said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@jayballer67
I checked last night and could watch the Dayton games no problem on my phone but would suck to have to watch it through that instead of my 65 inch tv

Can you use your phone as a hotspot? I connect my laptop to my phone hotspot, pull up the game, and then run a HDMI cable to a hotel/cabin TV now and then when in a pinch.

I can't stand watching basketball on a phone.

Yeah I can do that and likely will since I've exhausted all options, now need a tech to come which is 5 days out

TURN ME UPPPPP. SO READY CAN IT BE TOMORROW YET???!

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@wissox said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

@BeddieKU23 Looking at a new snowfall map and guessing you live somewhere around Vermont/Hudson valley area. Must be a great place to live!

Correct, Vermont. It is what you make it. Certainly not the worst place to live besides the extreme weather at times

Looks like I was right about Nevada being a fraudulant pick. Some worthier team missed the tournament because of them.

@BShark wow! What song is that?

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So much comedy here. So much...

@BShark Such fond memories of Mrs Beasley keeping Buffy feeling secure. Mr French always seemed kind of cringy.

That list had to be done by a Duke grad and NO ONE can convince me otherwise. Battier on this list...really? No Bird or Danny? :clown_face:

@BShark A little context would help unless it's what it literally says it is, top 10 players. If so, maybe AD belongs? Other than him, IDK. Looks like those goofy tweets with odd lists that can't be true.

@wissox This was on ESPN today. Supposed to be top 10 all time.

@BShark Hard to believe someone put this together and someone at ESPN thought it was ok. I mean a list without Walton and West and Robertson, and Manning, and Magic, goodness, we could go on and on. Is that from a tweet?

@wissox Looks like since 2000. It's real though, this is what they cited, some throwaway site

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So ESPN didn't do the lists themselves, just gave it air time.

@BShark said in Complain About KU's Unfair Bracket Thread:

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So much comedy here. So much...

Wow idk if that’s funny or one of the most idiotic things I’ve ever seen. A top 10 with pistol Pete, Kareem, Bird and Manning smh. That ain’t tobacco that this North Carolina resident is smoking.

Alabama looking like they got the good draw this year.

@benshawks08 They have the best player in the country too imo. Though apparently he is nursing a groin injury.