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Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5
Nov 28, 2023 10:44 PM #1

This game is going to put me out of my misery once and for all. Not the worlds greatest mismatch, I mean there was Georgia tech 220-0 over Cumberland College in 1916 and Chiefs 41, Bears 10 much later than that. But I digress, as a newly corona(ted) sufferer I'm now stuck to my chair for the next few days, so I have much time to fill these pages with more stuff for you all to ignore or read to your amusement.

The Panthers reside alongside I-57 on the eastern edge of Illinois between Chicago and Cairo (pronounced Cayr0) at the confluence of two great streams of our continent, the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers. I mean Charleston, IL is not anywhere near the interesting confluence which is too bad because it would be by far the most interesting thing in town. Driving north and south along that road 54 times we figured out during the 900 mile trip between Baton Rouge and Chicago/or Wisconsin Charleston represented one of of those things we look forward to on a road trip. It was a place to pull off the interstate, yell at the kids, and get some really crappy food at some fast food joint. Needless to say if it was the other Charleston (no not the one in WV) we probably never would have made it to Chicago. This Charleston that KU is playing, and it's too bad it's not at EIU's gym because I would have gone, except then I would have had Corona and my thoughtful wife would have been telling me you can't go with Corona Virus.

But this is KU at last word so what to know about them? When I was matriculating at The Harvard of Mt. Oread our fine football team (they were decent when I arrived on campus in 1985) was playing EIU. I've struggled to prove this but Sean Payton, no relation to the GOAT Walter, was the QB there and presumably played, and lost to KU that day. So we saw the genesis of a great coach that day.

As for their basketball team they hilariously scored scored 55 in the second half against Iowa just last year and beat the suckeyes and their whiney baby coach of the famed frantrum. In the name of journalistic integrity I must point out EIU beat my other slightly less favorite team also...in 1987 when UW sucked bad in hoops and I was at KU and coulda cared less.

Their current team is deserving of 344 Ken Pom. They've played their 1-57 counterpart U of I and got destroyed. Beaten two bad teams Coppin St (which used to have a coach named "Fang". "Hello Mom and Dad, I'd like you to meat my new boyfriend Fang") and basically gotten beat down by the rest. The EIU message board ("EIU Buckets) will be in full meltdown mode by the time they jump the ball. Frankly they're one of the teams that make you wonder why they're competing in D1 because back in their D2 days they were regular NCAA visitors to their tournament.

Of course, I think we make it to 99 points by about the 10 minute mark and then go cold leaving a final score of 99-3 when Tiger Booker hits a 3 at the buzzer.

Nov 28, 2023 11:09 PM #2

Protect the goods for Friday night against UCant.

Nov 28, 2023 11:24 PM #3

Very overmatched team tonight but an important tune up at home before a huge one Friday night.

Would really like to see Timberlake have a good game. Self said he's good to go. Some coach speak in his presser yesterday regarding him. He needs to see the ball go in.

Jank sick so we may not see him raining 3's tonight?

Nov 28, 2023 11:35 PM #4

@BeddieKU23

KU -38.5 last I saw.

Nov 28, 2023 11:38 PM #5

@wissox

LMAO.

Nov 29, 2023 12:32 AM #6

You need some limes for that corona?

Nov 29, 2023 12:51 AM #7

ā€œKick From Dick To Nick!ā€

Nov 29, 2023 01:01 AM #8

I’m an old but I hate the lights down thing

Nov 29, 2023 01:01 AM #9

I hope you all have been paying heed

Nov 29, 2023 01:03 AM #10

Whoa, Marty Simmons is an Illinois legendary HS player.

Nov 29, 2023 01:05 AM #11

Nice D

Nov 29, 2023 01:07 AM #12

Elmarko hops.

Nov 29, 2023 01:08 AM #13

They got caught with their panthers down that time

Nov 29, 2023 01:09 AM #14

Offthemarko

Nov 29, 2023 01:09 AM #15

Camera guy can't keep up

Nov 29, 2023 01:11 AM #16

Hunter is pretty dominating.

Nov 29, 2023 01:12 AM #17

Hunter certainly can rebound like few bigs that have come here. A very pleasant surprise tbh

Nov 29, 2023 01:13 AM #18

I just can't believe a guy who scored 3000 points in HS like the EIU coach did and was the Illinois Mr. Basketball can look like Simmons does now. Same age as I am too. I hope he's alright.

Nov 29, 2023 01:13 AM #19

Can HD keep up the .9 pts and 1 rb per minute average in his minutes tonite? I'm saying yes

Nov 29, 2023 01:13 AM #20

We have assisted on almost every bucket. I would love to see this be our signature all year

Nov 29, 2023 01:14 AM #21

It's really easy to throw the ball to Hunter and get an assist

Nov 29, 2023 01:14 AM #22

First time I've watched one of these stupid things using my phone (and last, I'm protesting the greedy ESPN) does the screen go blank on phones during TO's? MIne just did.

Nov 29, 2023 01:15 AM #23

@wissox

Yes normal

Nov 29, 2023 01:16 AM #24

@wissox said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

First time I've watched one of these stupid things using my phone (and last, I'm protesting the greedy ESPN) does the screen go blank on phones during TO's? MIne just did.

I can never get the games to load on my iphone at all. White screen of death.

Nov 29, 2023 01:17 AM #25

@DanR White screen of death? That's scary

Nov 29, 2023 01:17 AM #26

Video on ESPN+ is 1960s quality on my TV tonight too

Nov 29, 2023 01:17 AM #27

Omg nick

Nov 29, 2023 01:17 AM #28

Nick…

Nov 29, 2023 01:17 AM #29

Oof shake it off Nick. Again.

Nov 29, 2023 01:18 AM #30

this is not top 5 quality basketball right naw.

Nov 29, 2023 01:19 AM #31

I'm hoping Nick succeeds, but I'd rather see Jamari right now

Nov 29, 2023 01:19 AM #32

Furph!

Nov 29, 2023 01:19 AM #33

Parker with some good minutes

Nov 29, 2023 01:19 AM #34

Braun is a good blocker.

Nov 29, 2023 01:19 AM #35

Furph3

Nov 29, 2023 01:19 AM #36

Furph needed to see that 3 drop

Nov 29, 2023 01:20 AM #37

This lineup…

Nov 29, 2023 01:20 AM #38

Camera work is awful

Nov 29, 2023 01:20 AM #39

Furphthree?

Nov 29, 2023 01:21 AM #40

Nick Bahe is pretty good. Wayne doesn’t know how to use his voice. Drones a bit.

Nov 29, 2023 01:21 AM #41

Felt like energy left with that lineup.

Nov 29, 2023 01:22 AM #42

@KirkIsMyHinrich great minds I guess? 🤣

Nov 29, 2023 01:23 AM #43

Threephy

Nov 29, 2023 01:23 AM #44

Is it Wayne Simien on the broadcast? I missed the start thanks to ESPN plus taking 5 minutes to load.

Nov 29, 2023 01:23 AM #45

@DanR yes

Nov 29, 2023 01:24 AM #46

@approxinfinity - please don't ban me, but we are going to get our asses handed to us Friday. On a platter.

Nov 29, 2023 01:24 AM #47

That's actually a possibility

Nov 29, 2023 01:25 AM #48

@nuleafjhawk BANNED! :zany_face:

Nov 29, 2023 01:26 AM #49

Yeah sure

Nov 29, 2023 01:26 AM #50

Did we just call a TO vs E. ILLINOIS

I think we did that

Nov 29, 2023 01:26 AM #51

Kevs shot is off tonight so far

Nov 29, 2023 01:27 AM #52

Are there people here who never have had the opportunity to be at a Jayhawk game? Just curious.

Nov 29, 2023 01:27 AM #53

We needed that TO. Can't let this get away from us.

Nov 29, 2023 01:28 AM #54

Timberthree

Nov 29, 2023 01:28 AM #55

NSync looked good on that one

Nov 29, 2023 01:28 AM #56

This game is a teaching moment. Not calling a TO is wasting an opportunity for hubris imo.

Nov 29, 2023 01:28 AM #57

NT!

Nov 29, 2023 01:28 AM #58

Do that Nick, over and over.

Nov 29, 2023 01:28 AM #59

Beauty Nick

Nov 29, 2023 01:28 AM #60

There we go

Nov 29, 2023 01:28 AM #61

His kind of competition tonite?

Nov 29, 2023 01:28 AM #62

Timberlake taking over.

Nov 29, 2023 01:29 AM #63

@cragarhawk said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

@KirkIsMyHinrich great minds I guess? 🤣

Similar minds but unfortunately for you my mind is crap

Nov 29, 2023 01:29 AM #64

@wissox 😁

Nov 29, 2023 01:29 AM #65

@KirkIsMyHinrich well we're probably closer than we'd like to admit then. Lol

Nov 29, 2023 01:29 AM #66

Kev never had a foul he wouldn't mad at and I can appreciate that

Nov 29, 2023 01:29 AM #67

I guess Juando isn't good enough to play against these guys

Nov 29, 2023 01:30 AM #68

Brick city

Nov 29, 2023 01:30 AM #69

There you go Jackson

Nov 29, 2023 01:30 AM #70

Tremarko

Nov 29, 2023 01:30 AM #71

Nice Jackson!

Nov 29, 2023 01:30 AM #72

Nice passing

Nov 29, 2023 01:31 AM #73

Really nice pass by Elmarko to start that

Nov 29, 2023 01:31 AM #74

This team does pass so very well

Nov 29, 2023 01:31 AM #75

Elmarko moving the ball around nicely

Nov 29, 2023 01:31 AM #76

This lineup moves the ball.

Nov 29, 2023 01:31 AM #77

It's crazy how much more natural Nick is shooting the ball off the dribble

Nov 29, 2023 01:31 AM #78

@KirkIsMyHinrich lol thats a fantastic quote

Nov 29, 2023 01:31 AM #79

This whole team moves the ball

Nov 29, 2023 01:33 AM #80

I want to set the NCAA record for team assists. Is it possible?

Nov 29, 2023 01:33 AM #81

@approxinfinity u hurting yet? Staying ahead w/meds? How many incisions?

Nov 29, 2023 01:34 AM #82

@Crimsonorblue22 6 incisions. Feel good. Optimistic

Nov 29, 2023 01:34 AM #83

6?

Nov 29, 2023 01:34 AM #84

SEC-ACC challenge happening this week. Used to be the week for the BIG-ACC challenge which was always a big week on the schedule for me. I suppose ESPN killed it for their precious network so you get LSU-Syracuse tonight with huge swaths of empty seats in the Carrier Dome

Nov 29, 2023 01:34 AM #85

@approxinfinity dang it....

Nov 29, 2023 01:34 AM #86

Should start a B12-B10 challenge

Nov 29, 2023 01:35 AM #87

Self didnt like it maybe

Nov 29, 2023 01:36 AM #88

Liking this little rain of3s tonight

Nov 29, 2023 01:37 AM #89

I think Elmarko is going to be very hard to take off the floor by seasons end

I should say in crunch time Situations

Nov 29, 2023 01:39 AM #90

Wow

Nov 29, 2023 01:39 AM #91

Yoink! Mark studying Yodajuan

Nov 29, 2023 01:39 AM #92

Why are we so sloppy and awkward? Must be more cohesive

Nov 29, 2023 01:39 AM #93

That guy needs better goggles I think. They keep falling off

Nov 29, 2023 01:39 AM #94

@approxinfinity seems like a lot for just the gb.

Nov 29, 2023 01:40 AM #95

That Shelton is jacking a contested shot every time he touches it

Nov 29, 2023 01:40 AM #96

@cragarhawk can't pass to a big guy on the move, must practice.

Nov 29, 2023 01:41 AM #97

@approxinfinity said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

@Crimsonorblue22 6 incisions. Feel good. Optimistic

Good grief, were they just jabbing around randomly looking for it?

Nov 29, 2023 01:41 AM #98

@cragarhawk

Hangover a bit from Maui. Self said they were still a very tired team on Saturday. Eastern Illinois is weirdly slowing this game down with all the ball screens and working the clock. Probably more deliberate then weird

Nov 29, 2023 01:42 AM #99

Penn St trying to steal AK. I knew it was coming but it still sucks

Nov 29, 2023 01:42 AM #100

I have to admit HD is not as fast I thought. Or isn't running fast enough. Watched him alot last year. Could be game speed difference between B1G and Big12?

Nov 29, 2023 01:42 AM #101

On track to finish in low 60s so far. But I’m betting as the panthers start panting in the second half, we still put up big numbers by the end

Nov 29, 2023 01:42 AM #102

@cragarhawk said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

I have to admit HD is not as fast I thought. Or isn't running fast enough. Watched him alot last year. Could be game speed difference between B1G and Big12?

If he had good foot speed he would probably be in the NBA

Nov 29, 2023 01:43 AM #103

@DanR lol, forgot where it was! Or took out multiple items appendix and spleen. Shhh he doesn't know

Nov 29, 2023 01:43 AM #104

Wow!

Nov 29, 2023 01:44 AM #105

Showtime!

Nov 29, 2023 01:44 AM #106

Really cool the 🐐 could make time for our school’s basketball team

Nov 29, 2023 01:44 AM #107

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KJ ā¤

Nov 29, 2023 01:45 AM #108

@FarmerJayhawk said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

Really cool the 🐐 could make time for our school’s basketball team

Which one?

Nov 29, 2023 01:46 AM #109

Finish Kev

Nov 29, 2023 01:46 AM #110

We shoot FTs like old ppl boink

Nov 29, 2023 01:46 AM #111

our general rule on breaks in transition now appears to be get the ball to Dajuan on the first pass. As it should be.

Nov 29, 2023 01:47 AM #112

@dylans Lance

Nov 29, 2023 01:47 AM #113

However i think i would like dajuan to make a horizontal cut not vertical cut generally. He doesnt need to be the outlet

Nov 29, 2023 01:47 AM #114

Refs giving Kev the Jalen treatment this yr

Nov 29, 2023 01:48 AM #115

bunch of no calls

Nov 29, 2023 01:48 AM #116

Dude’s face mask looks like sunglasses šŸ˜Ž at first glance. lol

Nov 29, 2023 01:49 AM #117

Oh my that's a bailout call

Nov 29, 2023 01:49 AM #118

Nice to see Nick hit a few

Nov 29, 2023 01:50 AM #119

I think Hunter likes Juando making his life easy

Nov 29, 2023 01:50 AM #120

Pretty funny end to the half, gotta admit

Nov 29, 2023 01:50 AM #121

About half their makes have been pure luck

Nov 29, 2023 01:51 AM #122

My wife tells me if this corona thing takes me out that post I wrote will be a great way to go out.

Nov 29, 2023 01:51 AM #123

Ah poop how lucky

Nov 29, 2023 01:51 AM #124

Booker snuck off a luck shot

Nov 29, 2023 01:51 AM #125

saw some good things.
Would like to see some more Jamari

Nov 29, 2023 01:52 AM #126

@wissox You had the Booker shot at the buzzer predicted pretty uncannily

Nov 29, 2023 01:52 AM #127

Coach just now - ā€œwe gotta have our bench play betterā€.

Nov 29, 2023 01:53 AM #128

What was Self saying about the clock/shot clock?

Nov 29, 2023 01:56 AM #129

@DanR It's what I do!

Nov 29, 2023 01:57 AM #130

Teddy bear toss!

Nov 29, 2023 01:58 AM #131

Eh. We look sloppy, but a shit team can make you stoop to that level. Largely so far this season tho... we aren't bending over far

I love our passing. There's lots of time. But get to it dammit. Lol

Nov 29, 2023 01:58 AM #132

Elmarko with a jam and a trey plus 3 steals.

Nov 29, 2023 02:00 AM #133

@dylans some 35 seconds unaccounted for

Nov 29, 2023 02:03 AM #134

@dylans He was inquiring if the buzzer beating 3 got off before the shot clock.

Nov 29, 2023 02:04 AM #135

@wissox said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

This game is going to put me out of my misery once and for all. Not the worlds greatest mismatch, I mean there was Georgia tech 220-0 over Cumberland College in 1916 and Chiefs 41, Bears 10 much later than that. But I digress, as a newly corona(ted) sufferer I'm now stuck to my chair for the next few days, so I have much time to fill these pages with more stuff for you all to ignore or read to your amusement.

The Panthers reside alongside I-57 on the eastern edge of Illinois between Chicago and Cairo (pronounced Cayr0) at the confluence of two great streams of our continent, the Mississippi and Ohio Rivers. I mean Charleston, IL is not anywhere near the interesting confluence which is too bad because it would be by far the most interesting thing in town. Driving north and south along that road 54 times we figured out during the 900 mile trip between Baton Rouge and Chicago/or Wisconsin Charleston represented one of of those things we look forward to on a road trip. It was a place to pull off the interstate, yell at the kids, and get some really crappy food at some fast food joint. Needless to say if it was the other Charleston (no not the one in WV) we probably never would have made it to Chicago. This Charleston that KU is playing, and it's too bad it's not at EIU's gym because I would have gone, except then I would have had Corona and my thoughtful wife would have been telling me you can't go with Corona Virus.

But this is KU at last word so what to know about them? When I was matriculating at The Harvard of Mt. Oread our fine football team (they were decent when I arrived on campus in 1985) was playing EIU. I've struggled to prove this but Sean Payton, no relation to the GOAT Walter, was the QB there and presumably played, and lost to KU that day. So we saw the genesis of a great coach that day.

As for their basketball team they hilariously scored scored 55 in the second half against Iowa just last year and beat the suckeyes and their whiney baby coach of the famed frantrum. In the name of journalistic integrity I must point out EIU beat my other slightly less favorite team also...in 1987 when UW sucked bad in hoops and I was at KU and coulda cared less.

Their current team is deserving of 344 Ken Pom. They've played their 1-57 counterpart U of I and got destroyed. Beaten two bad teams Coppin St (which used to have a coach named "Fang". "Hello Mom and Dad, I'd like you to meat my new boyfriend Fang") and basically gotten beat down by the rest. The EIU message board ("EIU Buckets) will be in full meltdown mode by the time they jump the ball. Frankly they're one of the teams that make you wonder why they're competing in D1 because back in their D2 days they were regular NCAA visitors to their tournament.

Of course, I think we make it to 99 points by about the 10 minute mark and then go cold leaving a final score of 99-3 when Tiger Booker hits a 3 at the buzzer.

You are supposed to be laid up. This first post is more of a stand up routine!

Nov 29, 2023 02:09 AM #136

@mayjay working on if this teaching thing doesn’t work out.!

Nov 29, 2023 02:11 AM #137

Lol @ lateral quickness meaning sticking your foot out repeatedly

Nov 29, 2023 02:11 AM #138

9 point game

Nov 29, 2023 02:12 AM #139

We should really quit playing with our food

Nov 29, 2023 02:13 AM #140

Lol

Nov 29, 2023 02:13 AM #141

@wissox said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

@mayjay working on if this teaching thing doesn’t work out.!

Sounds from your description of the Hunt for Gallbladder episode like you were auditioning to be a model used for teaching surgery to undergrads. Or maybe to be a pin cushion.

Nov 29, 2023 02:13 AM #142

Kev 5, Elmarko 5, KJ 4, Juan 0. Come on guys

Nov 29, 2023 02:13 AM #143

Hard to believe I’m talking refs right now but we haven’t got a fair shake in the last minute or so.

Nov 29, 2023 02:14 AM #144

Wow we came out flat

Nov 29, 2023 02:14 AM #145

Outscored 12 - 4

Nov 29, 2023 02:14 AM #146

@mayjay gallbladder ?? Not me

Nov 29, 2023 02:15 AM #147

Not great bob!

Nov 29, 2023 02:16 AM #148

Not great at all. Jamari time

Nov 29, 2023 02:16 AM #149

One of those times i think where Nick didnt do anything terribly wrong but Jamari will do little things right

Nov 29, 2023 02:17 AM #150

If the Hawks play like this Friday, UConn will blow us out at home...

Nov 29, 2023 02:17 AM #151

Don’t save the ball under your own basket

Nov 29, 2023 02:18 AM #152

should win by 25 instead of 40 at this rate

Nov 29, 2023 02:18 AM #153

Is this really happening right now

Nov 29, 2023 02:18 AM #154

Bad boys with a killer instinct. Nah

Nov 29, 2023 02:18 AM #155

@wissox I may be drinking
Got my patients confused!

Nov 29, 2023 02:20 AM #156

We are getting outrebounded?

Nov 29, 2023 02:20 AM #157

The good ppl of Lynchburg TN are likely to love my support this season

Nov 29, 2023 02:20 AM #158

Boy making shots sure is hard tonight

Nov 29, 2023 02:21 AM #159

EIU lost by 28 to Illinois and 23 to Loyola Chicago...

Nov 29, 2023 02:21 AM #160

So many luck shots tonight

Nov 29, 2023 02:22 AM #161

@DCHawker I said the same exact thing earlier and @approxinfinity banned me!!! šŸ™ƒ

Nov 29, 2023 02:22 AM #162

Jamari having another really nice night

Nov 29, 2023 02:22 AM #163

I would ā€œbanā€ @DCHawker as well but i am biased towards DC.

Nov 29, 2023 02:23 AM #164

@FarmerJayhawk don't ever say that again while he's trying to make another ft.... lol

Nov 29, 2023 02:24 AM #165

@cragarhawk said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

@FarmerJayhawk don't ever say that again while he's trying to make another ft.... lol

Hard to win with people putting hexes on our team

Nov 29, 2023 02:24 AM #166

Seriously though im not taking anything from this game other than we have stuff to work on and chose this game to work on them.

Sure we will show our best current face against UCONN

Nov 29, 2023 02:24 AM #167

How much time do we think KU actually prepared for this game rather than the one coming up Friday?

Nov 29, 2023 02:24 AM #168

Hell I asked to get banned and didn't. Idk what you guys do to piss ppl off around here but wow. šŸ˜‰

Nov 29, 2023 02:25 AM #169

@cragarhawk BANNED! Happy?

Nov 29, 2023 02:25 AM #170

@DanR almost 0

Nov 29, 2023 02:25 AM #171

Ok lets stop banning people. Please. My middle finger hurts from hitting enter so hard.

Nov 29, 2023 02:25 AM #172

Lol

Nov 29, 2023 02:26 AM #173

@approxinfinity said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

@cragarhawk BANNED! Happy?

Careful, cragar. The mod is drugged.

Nov 29, 2023 02:26 AM #174

He's playing all the new kiddos a lot

Nov 29, 2023 02:26 AM #175

@mayjay yes but mostly level headed as it were

Nov 29, 2023 02:26 AM #176

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

He's playing all the new kiddos a lot

Its good. Digging it.

And they are all showing growth

Nov 29, 2023 02:27 AM #177

Now we kick their asses from here on out

Nov 29, 2023 02:27 AM #178

After that basket... now we're mad...

Nov 29, 2023 02:27 AM #179

Compared to the fould KJ got on the screen EIU is getting away with some ridiculous screens

Nov 29, 2023 02:27 AM #180

@Crimsonorblue22 I don't get espn+ so this thread is just funny as I check the delayed box score and try to match up comments.

Nov 29, 2023 02:28 AM #181

@approxinfinity my middle finger hurts too, but not because of that.

Nov 29, 2023 02:28 AM #182

I actually thought we'd be blacked out on plus tonite. Pleasantly surprised

Nov 29, 2023 02:29 AM #183

So, EIU is on a 90 point pace so far in the 2d half...

Nov 29, 2023 02:29 AM #184

@mayjay kj got blood on his shirt

Nov 29, 2023 02:29 AM #185

@DCHawker well they are a very explosive offense

Nov 29, 2023 02:30 AM #186

Where are our other scorers at?

Nov 29, 2023 02:30 AM #187

@wissox Yikes! Hope it was someone else's!

Nov 29, 2023 02:30 AM #188

Eiu guys middle finger hurt keeping in line with this thread

Nov 29, 2023 02:30 AM #189

Thank goodness we have football to fall back on!

Nov 29, 2023 02:30 AM #190

@nuleafjhawk said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

@approxinfinity my middle finger hurts too, but not because of that.

Dont know what that insinuates but smile, nod, thumbs up, back away slowly….

Nov 29, 2023 02:30 AM #191

KEV having a quiet nite

Nov 29, 2023 02:30 AM #192

WTF KEV

Nov 29, 2023 02:31 AM #193

@cragarhawk said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

@DCHawker well they are a very explosive offense

Yeah, the 48 they put up against Coppin State makes that case.... ;)

Nov 29, 2023 02:31 AM #194

@mayjay said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

@wissox Yikes! Hope it was someone else's!

I think it was selfs

Nov 29, 2023 02:31 AM #195

KJ is rocking

Nov 29, 2023 02:32 AM #196

Score the GD ball already

Nov 29, 2023 02:32 AM #197

Kev must be under the weather still

Nov 29, 2023 02:32 AM #198

Oh man KJ

Nov 29, 2023 02:32 AM #199

Furphy is always in the thick of it. Love it.

Nov 29, 2023 02:32 AM #200

ESPN didn’t want to show the missed FT

Nov 29, 2023 02:33 AM #201

Furph misses a three and is down there on baseline defense in a heartbeat. Dude is going to be good!

Nov 29, 2023 02:33 AM #202

Oh hey are we ever going to see Clemence again?

Nov 29, 2023 02:34 AM #203

Kj running on fumes, Self said services for his mom is next week.

Nov 29, 2023 02:34 AM #204

@cragarhawk said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

I actually thought we'd be blacked out on plus tonite. Pleasantly surprised

Does that still happen?

Nov 29, 2023 02:34 AM #205

@approxinfinity Redshirt

Nov 29, 2023 02:34 AM #206

Oh. I forgot thx @DanR he would be extremely redundant. Good call

Nov 29, 2023 02:34 AM #207

@wissox idk. But if it happens to anyone... I'm the guy

Me or @nuleafjhawk. We're the guys everything bad is aimed at, don't you know that?

Nov 29, 2023 02:37 AM #208

That face mask isn't doing jack

Nov 29, 2023 02:38 AM #209

the camera angle no one asked for from the upper corner

Nov 29, 2023 02:38 AM #210

@DanR it’s my favorite angle.

Nov 29, 2023 02:39 AM #211

Furph is going to be very good. His recognition on offense is slighlty behind the other 2 young studs

Nov 29, 2023 02:39 AM #212

KJ not being a threat to even look at the basket

Nov 29, 2023 02:39 AM #213

Did we just get home from Hawaii like at 6?

After a "hangover" style 4 day bender or wtf

Nov 29, 2023 02:39 AM #214

@cragarhawk tryptophan hangover

Nov 29, 2023 02:40 AM #215

@patoh3 said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

@DanR it’s my favorite angle.

LOL. I've sat up there a couple times. Not the worst... well, actually the worst seats in AFH

Nov 29, 2023 02:40 AM #216

@FarmerJayhawk aint no thang scientists say. All about the carb hangover

Nov 29, 2023 02:40 AM #217

Hawks were a 35 point favorite - not sure we are going to cover the spread.... ;)

Nov 29, 2023 02:40 AM #218

@FarmerJayhawk they should switch to ham.

Nov 29, 2023 02:40 AM #219

Lackluster and going through the motions is what I see

Nov 29, 2023 02:41 AM #220

Hell, we could still lose this.

Nov 29, 2023 02:41 AM #221

We have our starting five and not much else.

Nov 29, 2023 02:41 AM #222

Jamari out there we good

Nov 29, 2023 02:42 AM #223

Hopefully Kev can forget this night

Nov 29, 2023 02:42 AM #224

Thank goodness this game didn't start at 9 or 10. I would hate to stay up late for this.

Nov 29, 2023 02:42 AM #225

5 missed layups at least from kev

Nov 29, 2023 02:43 AM #226

Seriously. For the next 3 days, shoot fts til you can't even stop

Nov 29, 2023 02:44 AM #227

Streaming is like evolution in reverse. We’d gotten to the hyper advanced point that we could record games, pause games, do our own frame by frame anything we wanted . And now we’re all just crossing fingers hoping our technology works so we don’t miss key plays or shots.

Nov 29, 2023 02:44 AM #228

Good foul KJ cannot shoot

Nov 29, 2023 02:45 AM #229

@cragarhawk I'd love to know how much time is spent on FT's in practice. It's my big pet peeve. They are FREE points.

Nov 29, 2023 02:45 AM #230

Actually I can think of 10 key plays I would have gladly missed tonite...minimum

Nov 29, 2023 02:45 AM #231

Thanks KJ

Nov 29, 2023 02:46 AM #232

This is where last years struggles were goodfor Kev. He had big shots last year when he was struggling. He learned to power through and find ways to continue to impact the game. Made him a better player

Nov 29, 2023 02:46 AM #233

@nuleafjhawk only the throws are free my friend the points come at much cost

Nov 29, 2023 02:46 AM #234

Wonder if a 340+ ranked Kenpom team has ever beaten a top ten team on the road????

Nov 29, 2023 02:47 AM #235

At least this ass beaten will give Uconn alot of fear coming into this building friday

Nov 29, 2023 02:47 AM #236

Oh boy that last sequence is gonna bring you know back out

Nov 29, 2023 02:47 AM #237

@wissox where's the "meh" icon?

Nov 29, 2023 02:47 AM #238

:-/

Nov 29, 2023 02:47 AM #239

@DCHawker or a top 5 team

Nov 29, 2023 02:48 AM #240

@wissox

It was not a good pass

Nov 29, 2023 02:48 AM #241

@DCHawker ack, don’t wanna know that

Nov 29, 2023 02:48 AM #242

Ok shooting foul

Nov 29, 2023 02:48 AM #243

Wait our game with UConn is on this crappy streaming channel?

Nov 29, 2023 02:49 AM #244

three ridiculous passes right there

Nov 29, 2023 02:49 AM #245

@wissox we may be wishing it was on Friday nite

Nov 29, 2023 02:49 AM #246

UConn has no idea which Kansa thryre getting… but lets win this

Nov 29, 2023 02:49 AM #247

Win or lose, Mr Bill is not going to be a happy camper.

Nov 29, 2023 02:50 AM #248

What in the world, just got back from my kids Christmas concert. Baker would smoke these guys.

Nov 29, 2023 02:50 AM #249

Idk. I'm hoping Bill is just toying with everyone right now

Nov 29, 2023 02:51 AM #250

Ok no more jokes allowed. This is getting cereal. My thread my rules.

Nov 29, 2023 02:51 AM #251

What's EIU shooting this half? 75%

Nov 29, 2023 02:52 AM #252

Do we get 70?

Nov 29, 2023 02:52 AM #253

@cragarhawk said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

Do we get 70?

70 probably wins this

Nov 29, 2023 02:53 AM #254

@DanR that did not answer the question. Lol

Nov 29, 2023 02:53 AM #255

EIU is a final four team it calling it now

Nov 29, 2023 02:53 AM #256

Playing the bench liberally in the first half and which we won by 13. Mostly starters in the 2d half and getting beat by 10....

Nov 29, 2023 02:53 AM #257

EIU is a fall on floor team

Nov 29, 2023 02:54 AM #258

@wissox ya. If you're going from the bottom of D1 up

Nov 29, 2023 02:54 AM #259

KState tied with ORU with 1 second left.

Nov 29, 2023 02:54 AM #260

@wissox EIU is an EIEIO team. We're just playing down to the level of our competition as usual.

Nov 29, 2023 02:54 AM #261

Haven't seen that Hanes commercial in a while. Ballance.

Nov 29, 2023 02:55 AM #262

@patoh3 old friend Issac McBride has 25

Nov 29, 2023 02:55 AM #263

Espn2 Fri, 8

Nov 29, 2023 02:55 AM #264

@nuleafjhawk said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

@wissox EIU is an EIEIO team. We're just playing down to the level of our competition as usual.

Playing WAY down....

Nov 29, 2023 02:56 AM #265

@patoh3 said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

KState tied with ORU with 1 second left.

Wait you been watching that game instead of ours? #banned

Nov 29, 2023 02:56 AM #266

This is good experience... like a first or second round challenge in the tourney when you play like crap

Nov 29, 2023 02:56 AM #267

I hope we don't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Nov 29, 2023 02:56 AM #268

@DanR couldn't we just not ever play like crap in the tournament. Seems much nicer

Nov 29, 2023 02:56 AM #269

@DanR said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

This is good experience... like a first or second round challenge in the tourney when you play like crap

But there aren't too many 300+ ranked teams in the tourney...

Nov 29, 2023 02:57 AM #270

Snatching da feet is for fall on floor teams

Nov 29, 2023 02:57 AM #271

ElMarko off the marko

Nov 29, 2023 02:57 AM #272

Offmarko?

Nov 29, 2023 02:57 AM #273

See when we try hard it’s ok

Nov 29, 2023 02:57 AM #274

@wissox just looked at the score on Bleacher Report. I would not commit such blasphemy during a KU game!

Nov 29, 2023 02:57 AM #275

Badmarko

Nov 29, 2023 02:58 AM #276

We're going to win this but we'd better play better against UConn

Nov 29, 2023 02:58 AM #277

Clockmarko

Nov 29, 2023 02:58 AM #278

Get a stop here and bucket and call it a day

Nov 29, 2023 02:59 AM #279

This is like being Apollo Creed in Rocky 1

"MAN, I WON... BUT I DIDNT BEAT HIM"

Nov 29, 2023 02:59 AM #280

Need rest

Nov 29, 2023 02:59 AM #281

Elmarko could have made a stride with that 3.

Nov 29, 2023 03:00 AM #282

@Crimsonorblue22 5 days of vacation and fuckery. They're teenagers.. lol. Except McCullar

Nov 29, 2023 03:00 AM #283

Starters 1-7 from 3...

Nov 29, 2023 03:00 AM #284

@cragarhawk and Justin

Nov 29, 2023 03:01 AM #285

Took Juan 38:54 to score. Ha

Nov 29, 2023 03:01 AM #286

Juando better be hitting from three against UConn

Nov 29, 2023 03:01 AM #287

This team is ass at fts.

Nov 29, 2023 03:01 AM #288

HD

Nov 29, 2023 03:01 AM #289

@BeddieKU23 Can't ask more than that from a top ranked point guard....

Nov 29, 2023 03:02 AM #290

Tiger Bookers a baller

Nov 29, 2023 03:02 AM #291

Never speak of this game again

Nov 29, 2023 03:02 AM #292

Booker is a decent player

Nov 29, 2023 03:02 AM #293

Hunter uses tall

It's super effective

Nov 29, 2023 03:02 AM #294

A wins a win. Onto the next

Nov 29, 2023 03:02 AM #295

@rcjhdraft what game?

Nov 29, 2023 03:02 AM #296

We almost got the spread

Nov 29, 2023 03:02 AM #297

@cragarhawk said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

This team is ass at fts.

3 point shooting was pretty much ass tonight as well.

Nov 29, 2023 03:03 AM #298

I dont agree with Waynes assessment at all. But i didnt like him as a player either

Nov 29, 2023 03:03 AM #299

@Texas-Hawk-10 to be fair. There wasn't much that wasn't. Minus the W

Nov 29, 2023 03:03 AM #300

@approxinfinity what???? Banned!

Nov 29, 2023 03:04 AM #301

KU definitely got caught looking ahead to UConn tonight.

Nov 29, 2023 03:04 AM #302

Yes, we need to get the ball to Hunter in big games, but we need the rest of the team to grow and that was the point of this game. Wayne can be so 2 dimensional

Nov 29, 2023 03:04 AM #303

Pretty good game by KJ and HD.... everyone else STEP UP

Nov 29, 2023 03:05 AM #304

I liked Wayne's game tho. You're way out of line on that. Altho... Graves did come up big in the tournament

I missed 2 in the ESPN tournament challenge that year. Some dumb ass 1st round game. And f'n Syracuse

Mmmm. F'n syracuse

Nov 29, 2023 03:06 AM #305

The funny thing about Wayne saying the ball needs to go to Hunter every play to score is exactly why that team got beat by Bucknell. The team was broken because it tried to feed it to Wayne every play.

Nov 29, 2023 03:06 AM #306

Nothing like a dentist trip at 7 pm on a Tuesday. Probably a combination of jet lag and looking ahead to Friday. One thing Self has always said that I agree with a šŸ’Æ. ā€œWhen you play 35-40 games a year, you have 5 games that you play better than you are and 5 games that you stink. The rest is who you are.ā€

Nov 29, 2023 03:07 AM #307

Elmarko had the best +/- at 18 tonight.

Nov 29, 2023 03:09 AM #308

HD. 25 and 13

Nov 29, 2023 03:09 AM #309

@kjayhawks I hope weve played at least 3 of the bad ones

Nov 29, 2023 03:13 AM #310

Juan and KJ were both issues tonight.

KJ is still a good center but he isn't a good wing. Can't handle or shoot so Hunter has less room to operate. The spacing is terrible which is a large part of the turnover issue.

Nov 29, 2023 03:18 AM #311

@cragarhawk maybe 2

Nov 29, 2023 03:19 AM #312

Timberlake’s deep funk is making him nearly unplayable. I’d rather see more ā€˜Mari at this point.

Nov 29, 2023 03:23 AM #313

Apparently it just wasn’t a good night to be a B12 basketball school. KSUCK needed ot to beat ORU and Cincinnati barely escaped Howard.

Nov 29, 2023 03:24 AM #314

Not one good thing about this game, very un-inspiring. - -Juan was warm dog doo , just bad ball. outrebounded,-- If we don't start hitting some outside shots we are in BIG trouble. --- for the most part I'd say 80 % of the game if w didn't make a lay up we had nothing.--We play even close to this Friday we just might get run out of the gym. Plain and simple.

Nov 29, 2023 03:31 AM #315

@dylans he tied a his career high here with 5 points!!! I honestly don’t care about his shooting as much as defense and the little things. But my gosh that is a terrible basketball player, sorry to say but truthful imo. Especially when you figure he’s played at the D1 level for this long, arguably the biggest recruit miss of the Self era.

Nov 29, 2023 03:35 AM #316

We didn’t try hard. We have talent. Can we beat UConn, sure. Will we, who knows!
Hunter is a great offensive player but he’s a really poor slow defender. We have 4 good players. But Hunter doesn’t really match the other 3. Adams, Kevin, Harris all would be better in a more in your face defensive squad that can run the floor. Hunter needs a slow pace, half court offense, with 3 point shooters. Part of the style of the main 4 doesn’t gel perfect.
Ultimately the problem is the 5 th starter and bench. It’s bad, and self really missed. Elmarko has been pretty disappointing for his hype. Other transfers are not great. He took a stupid gamble on the Texas kid that got kicked off the team. And Marcus Adam’s recruitment was a mistake as well. For ku prestige and bill selfs resume it’s shocking he couldn’t land better transfers outside of hunter

Nov 29, 2023 03:36 AM #317

Main unit looks better with McDowell! He needs to get his minutes and grow. Furphy as the main bench guy. Elmarko is Harris sub and occasionally McCullers

Nov 29, 2023 03:41 AM #318

I just really like Jamari. Not interested in trashing Nick, but he needs to be elite at 1 thing: shooting. If he isnt, then Mari and Marko need minutes. If he is then he becomes an important weapon. But i dont see the team feeding him like a primary option when hes open. either the coach forces the team to use him or doesn’t, i dont see him as part of this team’s identity organically.

Mari and Furphy look like the guys to inherit his 3s. And Marko and Mari his minutes. Unfortately if Juan isnt coming out Marko Mari and nick are all competing for 2 guard minutes.

This is the beginning of the end of Nicks minutes i think. This was the game to feature him and we didnt.

Nov 29, 2023 03:41 AM #319

@wissox said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

@nuleafjhawk only the throws are free my friend the points come at much cost

Syracuse 2003 still hurts.

Nov 29, 2023 03:41 AM #320

@jayhawks2010 sadly Timberlake was touted as the best shooter in the portal and he just isn’t. I think Furphy, Elmarko and McDowell are the keys to this team. If this team had an Ochai and/or Braun type that can drive, play above the rim and hit jumpers. This team would be ungodly good. We could be a better team without KJ on the floor as much as I love that kid.

Nov 29, 2023 03:43 AM #321

Next year will be athletic and spread the floor well if these 3 stay.

Nov 29, 2023 03:48 AM #322

@tundrahok said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

@wissox said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

@nuleafjhawk only the throws are free my friend the points come at much cost

Syracuse 2003 still hurts.

Dude……Never mention this again

Nov 29, 2023 05:39 AM #323

As much as I’d like a better ft shooting team at KU I really struggle to think of a self team that lost an important game from FTs. Doke lost one or two I think but regular season types only.

Nov 29, 2023 07:49 AM #324

@approxinfinity said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

The funny thing about Wayne saying the ball needs to go to Hunter every play to score is exactly why that team got beat by Bucknell. The team was broken because it tried to feed it to Wayne every play.

Oooh, you shoulda banned yourself for any mention of B***nell!

Nov 29, 2023 01:29 PM #325

@rockchalkjayhawk ha. I'll self-impose a 3 game ban deferred to next year (maybe preseason, lol)

Wayne was 9 for 14

Mike Lee was 6 for 9

Moody was 2 for 2

JHawk was 1-1

rest of team:
Miles 0-5
Giddens 1-7
Langford 1-7 (hurt/sick)
Giles 0-1
Kaun 0-0
Galindo 0-0
Total : 2 for 18

We outbounded them, we shot a higher percentage.

But we had 4 more turnovers and they had 9 more shot attempts.

We were 1-11 from THREE (Jhawks one bucket from the bench).

We were 22-27 from the line.

They were 8-31 from 3 and 12-16 from the line

It isnt the only team whose post season came to a crashing end (ours or other teams) when their perimeter failed to score and they tried to feed the big man.

Several things about that team make it a tasty cautionary tale. Pass first point guard going 0-5 (all time KU assists leader). No production from the bench. Several NBA level players getting next to zero minutes. A dirth of 3 point shooting.

Nov 29, 2023 02:21 PM #326

Eh. Wayne makes that free throw line jumper 75% of the time, we just got to witness the miss. Playing thru Wayne was the right move.

Nov 29, 2023 02:31 PM #327

@Texas-Hawk-10

If it looks like ass and ** ** *** it's ass. Good morning and you are welcome.

Nov 29, 2023 04:20 PM #328

@dylans only because thats where we were as a team. We were backed into a corner of our making and put all our eggs in the Wayne basket while everyone else laid them. Why he averaged 20 pts that year.

Nov 29, 2023 05:41 PM #329

Well - - -How should I reply about the game last night and what I saw - -felt - - -thoughts about the game without offending somebody here, or feel like I stepped on someone's toes , or somebody takes things entirely wrong and think I'm just a hater ?

I guess I would have to say if anyone felt good about the way the guys played last night then --- holla. - - where to begin ? - -first I guess like has been mentioned in this thread Hunter and I've said this before Hunter is just a bad fit just doesn't seem like the right fit. - -As was mentioned by another here Hunter is a really bad liability on the defensive end. How many times did he get blistered when he was pulled out away from the basket ? They were drooling at the mouth when he was up high on D. Sure offensively he is fine, and yet even then he is slow , when we have to run a pattern offense we bog down a lot this year, like we have been in the past, these guys are at our best when we can get out and run - - run before the other guys have the chance to really sit up on D. - -I'm not trying to bash , just trying to tell it like it is- - -it is what it is. I am glad he is here BUT - - - -

This game really wasn't one persona fault for the play last night - -it was the entire team almost..- -How can you explain a team that was a 38.5 favorite is struggling like hell leading by ONE point very late in the game ?- no excuses for that - - NONE. - -ok try and try and justify it but using Hawaii - -great I give some credence for that - -I'll give you up to Twenty points off for that if you like - -what about the other eighteen they were favored by ?

Juan was sloppy with the ball , - -We got out rebounded by this team - -we shoot 3-14 from the three- - -we shoot like 67 % from the line. - Answer me this Hunter by the like eight minute mark of the FIRST HALF already had TEN rebounds, WHAT HAPPENED ? -HE GOT ONE REBOUND-- ONE the rest of the entire game, what the hell ?

I could go on but I won't I'll simply say if we continue with these problems : - -Juan scores ONE point doesn't really even look to score that often - -other teams will and can ignore him as a threat. Don't even try to justify his ONE game outing as we know that was more of an abnormality then the norm. - We have a 2 guard who can't shoot or is just reluctant to ( Jackson )- we have a four man ( KJ ) I love the guy but can't shoot past 7 foot so not a factor unless he can get a dunk- also non factor when comes to rebounding , horrible rebounding the ball- so in reality most or a lot of the times other teams have really two guys they need to guard - -Hunter & Kevin.

I'll tell you this , if I were coaching a team against KU I would 100 % play a zone against these guys and make them prove to me that they can shoot the three consistently in the game. - I'm not talking about makin one, two , three, even four - If you shoot like they normally do, and say even like four out of eighteen - -twenty I can for sure live with that , but they would have to show me that they can knock down the trey on a consistent bases in the game.- -Hunter wouldn't see the ball on the inside.

If we continue to play like we did last night - -U Conn will run us right off our own court.- -However I feel Coach is going to have a great practice today and I bet we see a different team totally Friday Night---- ROCK CHALK

Nov 29, 2023 05:54 PM #330

@jayballer67 I think we have 3 guys that in theory will be able to do most things well, and then a bunch of guys that have conditional weaknesses that make them hard to play with other pieces
Hunter can score, but can't play D.
Juan can pass and d but can't always score.
Kevin can do everything well but then can't hit the ocean sometimes.
KJ can't shoot outside 7 feet.
Timberlake doesn't do anythign special except shoot, and doesn't get enough shots to do that well here.

It is so much easier to do things with interchangeable parts. Which is why we need to play the young guys, and that's what Self did last night.

Now conventional wisdom @jayballer67 would be that we'll see a different team against UConn. The belt will be tightened; we will experiment less. I do think we see precise offense with the old guys and that leads to some nice polished possessions. However, as someone pointed out, our bench was more productive than our starters yesterday. So... at what point do the young guys get trusted with big boy minutes?

I hope we are moving to a place, and it appears we are, where the draft classes year over year are more well rounded / interchangeable pieces.. less critical flaws to a man.

Nov 29, 2023 06:00 PM #331

@approxinfinity said in Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5:

The funny thing about Wayne saying the ball needs to go to Hunter every play to score is exactly why that team got beat by Bucknell. The team was broken because it tried to feed it to Wayne every play.

When Simien was saying the ball needed to go to Hunter on every possession, he's not saying that Hunter needs to shoot every time. He's saying that Hunter is KU's best offensive player and him touching the ball opens things up for others because Hunter is getting double and triple teamed on a regular basis. That's what Wayne meant by playing through Hunter.

Nov 29, 2023 06:06 PM #332

@Texas-Hawk-10 I'd endorse that take except that the ball is not getting distributed by Hunter. Hunter could make guys like Timberlake happy if they got the kickout on the double. They don't. Hunter had 2 assists that game. That's fine, but we're not playing through him. We're playing to him.

Nov 29, 2023 10:30 PM #333

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Nov 29, 2023 11:26 PM #334

Ouch

Nov 30, 2023 12:34 AM #335

We can post pictures again? Thanks @approxinfinity

Nov 30, 2023 01:35 AM #336

So - not entirely sure why some on this site are trashing Nick so much compared to the other bench players… when Elmarko or Jamari or Johnny misses open shots, no one here seems to jump on them like they do Nick. I understand that their upsides are potentially huge, and am glad the Self is giving them good minutes- the faster they develop, the better for us down the road. When I watch Nick, I see good defense, hustle, moving away from the ball, passing, and he boxes out well. He is not as athletic and the aforementioned 3 guys, but in my opinion he can be a good addition to this team, because he can shoot the three consistently when given minutes, and when he starts to acclimate to this level.

Here’s an excerpt from the game recap from LJW:

ā€œ After a lethargic stretch for the next 10 minutes, Nicolas Timberlake, who had been struggling in his reserve role to begin the year, helped Kansas create some separation late in the first half. Timberlake drilled a 3-pointer from the left wing on an assist by Jackson, only to follow that up with a better play on the next possession. Timberlake faked out a defender on the perimeter before drilling a pull-up jumper from mid-range.

Moments later, Timberlake dished a quick entry pass to Hunter Dickinson for the turnaround jumper to stretch KU’s lead to double-digits.ā€

That’s certainly what I saw… and he tried a block on 2-on 1 breakaway due to a horrendous pass by KJ, fouled the guy who made the layup, and then was pulled. What am I missing?

Nov 30, 2023 02:11 AM #337

Bill's post game interview was pretty revealing about Nick and how Bill sees it. I wondered why he didn't see play for most of the second half and it was because he missed a defensive assignment early and Bill blew a gasket. He almost seemed angry about the question that was asked.

It's frustrating because Nick playing well (and being allowed to play) could help this team quite a bit.

Nov 30, 2023 02:31 AM #338

I agree with the above two takes on Nick — he played pretty well (better than he has been) and given more time might have played even better. My concern is that he’s not going to be able to replicate that against top teams and they will target him on D. But we’ll see. I’d love for my worry to prove unfounded.

Nov 30, 2023 07:37 AM #339

I think poor Nick gets beat up more so than the freshmen because he is a sixth year player — who shot 40+ percent from deep his last two years at Towson. So, he came with experience and some expectation of instant success — more so than the freshmen.

He’s shooting 29% at the moment, and has mostly been burnt toast on defense.

I think we all want him to succeed. He’d better start soon, or Jamari will get all his minutes.

Nov 30, 2023 02:17 PM #340

Nick is a player with little margin for error. He has some hops, but I'd hardly classify him as an elite athlete. So when he's slumping, his entire game suffers. If he can regain some optimism he can rise to the occasion to be the player Self recruited. But he'll have to bring optimism every night and play with a chip. He could actually be a catalyst for this team because they don't possess enough "team chip" at this point in the season.

Hope someone wearing crimson/blue brings a chip against UCONN because Hurley is one of the few coaches that has a permanent chip in his DNA and he knows how to instill it in his players.

This game could go in either direction... might be best for us to take a thrashing to build chip for the rest of the season... like UK gave us in our championship year. It hurt us being preseason #1... boys all thought they deserved it.

Nov 30, 2023 02:36 PM #341

@drgnslayr I've always liked your "Chip" theory. And I agree with you. It doesn't just pertain to us or to sports, but in almost every area of life when you are over confident and cocky - you stand a very good chance of getting knocked down. A hunger for success is always a good motivator.

Dec 02, 2023 06:28 AM #342

The minutes run through Jackson and Furphy more and more.

It looks like Jamari may get more time, especially if there's need for defense, foul trouble or injury.

But Nick has no niche right now. He's not an asset offensively and he's not an asset defensively. He's got a few more weeks to get more consistent offensively, but he'll have to do it with an increasingly tighter leash.

Obviously this is disappointing because he was expected to be an impact player. He has the potential to break out and dazzle, but we just haven't seen it and after december, the clock strikes 12.

Dec 02, 2023 03:50 PM #343

After the break we will know exactly what the team will be going forward. There is always a big leap forward in cohesion both on offense and defense. The playbook opens up more and options on various movements begin to make sense to the new guys. Help side defense will vastly improve as well. Switching on D is a new concept to most as Dan eluded to in his post game interview (they don’t see that much if at all), so that will improve as well. If the defensive intensity they demonstrated against UConn is sustainable for 6 games in march, it’s over folks.