Is anyone predicting a KU victory today? We certainly are in a cool spell that we haven't really seen in quite some time.

Kevin iffy again it sounds like? As others have said sacrificing wins now may be our best bet for success in March.

I'm looking forward to seeing the new arena at Baylor today. Kind of surprised but kind of not to see the low seating capacity. It reminds me of our plans to build a low capacity football stadium.

Anyways, enjoy the game bucketeers! It's only sports, don't let another tough one ruin your Saturday!

Will take our best game of the year to win imo. Don't see it happening but in the case they do, I'll be even happier. Still will root with the hope the guys took Tuesday personally and we all know Self hates losing to Drew..

Kev is probably playing, in some capacity today it sounds.

@BeddieKU23 The road has been strangely tough for teams all across the land this year, seemingly more so than others. That's the factor that tilts this one against us I think. But it made no difference to BYU of course.

@wissox said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

Is anyone predicting a KU victory today? We certainly are in a cool spell that we haven't really seen in quite some time.

Kevin iffy again it sounds like? As others have said sacrificing wins now may be our best bet for success in March.

I'm looking forward to seeing the new arena at Baylor today. Kind of surprised but kind of not to see the low seating capacity. It reminds me of our plans to build a low capacity football stadium.

Anyways, enjoy the game bucketeers! It's only sports, don't let another tough one ruin your Saturday!

The new lower capacity of Baylor's arena and UT's are frustrating because I haven't been able to make it to a KU game in person in a couple of years now. UT's new arena dropped capacity by over 6,000 seats and Baylor's dropped capacity by about 2,500 seats. That means tickets for KU last year in Austin were sold out before the made it to public on sale, same with Baylor this year. Tickets for today have significantly dropped in price, but it's too late for me drive to Waco and make it to the game. Leading up to the last couple of days, tickets were going for about $175 on aftermarket sites. Tickets to the UH game at Fertitta Center next week are still north of $250 apiece so won't be making it to that one either.

@wissox

We haven't made shots on the road and defending the 3 has been a huge issue. Completely different team on the road. Agree it's harder then ever to win away from home. Officiating is the leading cause there

Kev is a game time decision

@BeddieKU23 said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

@wissox

We haven't made shots on the road and defending the 3 has been a huge issue. Completely different team on the road. Agree it's harder then ever to win away from home. Officiating is the leading cause there

This team hasn't defended the three well at home either.

My neighbors and their friends are there. They didn't get tickets til late, they were expensive.

Kev to give it a go

@BeddieKU23 said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

Kev to give it a go

Starting as well.

Pregame had problems didn't start til 11:45. Sick of espn+

I'm nervous 🙋‍♀️

LFG

RockChalk

@RockChalkinTexas 🙋‍♀️

Here's another super bowl for the home team

Fran🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Wow on the Badgers pregame they honored Howard Moore. He was a very good assistant coach for Bo and Gard and nearly died in a car accident, but was severely hurt. He lost his wife I believe and a child. He is severely disabled. Startling to see him in this condition. For the 2nd time in a week the Badgers play at the same time as the Jayhawks grrrr...

@RockChalkinTexas 🤮🤢

Let's get this!

Finally was able to take off all the covers from the palm trees 🏝

Nice layup kev

Fran says you've got to shoot the ball.

Juan got lucky

Zero answer for missi

Nice

Air Dickinson

Camera view sucks

Nice job kj

Hunt came to play

Johnny

Playing well out the gate here. Some here really thought we'd be better with Kevin coming off the bench.

Being patient on O, helps!

Sharing well boys

Hunter catching the ball and positioning himself well!

Fran likes the word plethora

Can't make fts again

Moving screen

Fur3

Back at u!

@Crimsonorblue22 Yes, I saw that screen too. So far refs letting a lot go.

Good DDDDD

Walk

I get to yell in my she shed

Foul? since when is a travel a foul on us?

Nice plays there

Really weak foul

Subs😥

Elmarko is so bad

Ball was out

Not in baylor

Another strange foul call.

Lil late

Such a bad pass

Anyone see Top 10 last night?

Turnover to three and a bad call.

Hunt, they are not 7ft!

Fran smh

Kevin making a defensive difference so far.

Parker is not smart there

You just didn't win the NCAA's. You made a layup. Stop acting like a fool.

Refs. SMDH

Travel long before the foul

This lineup couldn't guard the Topeka ymca JV team.

Another travel by Messi

Passing up open shots. I just cant

Bench ain't gonna cut it

Nick thinking too much and misses his stutter shot.

@RockChalkinTexas said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

Bench ain't gonna cut it

They are so scared of making a mistake or missing a shot it's a killer.

Need to drive it

Hero Kevin drives into 4 guys smh

@kjayhawks that was NOT what I had in mind

Horse hockey

That was a horrible call Fran.

These refs will never let us win

Not even close to us touching it, bet they hit a 3 here

Can't review it?

Getting a little too worked up, Bill

Wait did they overturn the out of bounds? Now I'm officially pissed, it was just off the record before.

They are picking our D apart.

@Zabudda They only have 23 points

Baylor fans suck

6-0 run keep it going

@BeddieKU23 I think they're just ignorant. They're football fans, bball is just a hobby during the winter.

Harris could keep on doing that drive

Time to get T here, bull shit calls

Missed another moving screen call for at least the 3rd time this game. I mean Missi just hip checked DaJuan at the top of the key.

Can we get one call??

Can't dribble that high

Just sub 1 in, not all of them

We're off on our passing

Really surprised Baylor hasn't shot the 3 more, whether were playing that good of D on the 3 or-- Baylor feeling they can drive the ball more on us

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

Just sub 1 in, not all of them

ya a 4 in Sub is not a good idea - -hell even sub 2 in but 4 all at once - - -ummmm no

Especially cross court, bad angles. U can see players in the passing lanes

If we can keep it at 2 possession

Amazing how the game turns on some crappy calls. But here we come.

Sweet

Why'd the ref just stop the game?

Good guess?

LFG

Way to go Juando

Harris taking over!!!

I like this Juando guy

Go Juan, u unathletic d2 player

Good stretch besides passing up a wide open layup to end half by Juando

Think we are in an okay spot here, especially with the one sided officiating

Wow, watched Giannis in person last night and he was unstoppable.

That is the one hope I think this team has in the tournament is that it’s possible they get some more fouls and a little cleaner game. Hunter gets fouled every offensive possession. They get a few of those early in a game and could open up some more space.

Well overall guys, I don't think we have really played that badly. It just looks like more flow. Even though Juan did throw the last possession away, he still has played solid, but man wish we could hit some three's -overall at this point ere in decent shape

Which ref is going to need a shoehorn after the game?

What do you guys think about running some 4 out and 1 in for a few minutes with Nick in for KJ?

@wissox said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

@Zabudda They only have 23 points

Thank goodness. We held them to 35 which is the cap if we are to get out of the sixties and have a chance.

Furphy not looking to shoot the three it seems like. Better him than anyone else.

Welcome back Kevin!!!

Yes Kevin

These refs will not call fouls on Baylor

I didn't see Parker

BIG TIME KEV

Boys are hustling

Need to box out! They're getting to many O boards!🤬

Love the hustle today

Shooting 69%

Harris having a great game

Pushed off Kevin

@RockChalkinTexas I'm slightly behind, I see what you mean.

Furphy gets hammered.

He should've fell down! Seems like other coaches teach it!

Weak call other end. Refs suck

Comical Baylor has 4 fouls in the game

@BeddieKU23 said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

Comical Baylor has 4 fouls in the game

The way we shot FTs the other day maybe that's a blessing!

Awesome

Refs miss an OOB call and it leads to a 3 for them.

And those r the plays that lose games

@wissox said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

@BeddieKU23 said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

Comical Baylor has 4 fouls in the game

The way we shot FTs the other day maybe that's a blessing!

Good pt

Johnny getting taken right now

Meltdown time

Terrible stretch

Their run!

Google time of game to stink if we can turn it around

This one's over

Nick watching!

@BeddieKU23 said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

This one's over

Oh come on Beddie! Bshark and kcmatt always used to say the same things. 5 point game, er 8 now.

Baylor fouled?

We just have no threat to shoot the ball

@patoh3 must be blood and guts on us

And there is the story. - -We are shooting 81 % but your not going to win when the other team i draining three's - -we are outscored by 18 from the three- -you just can't win when the percentages are like that--- boils down we just can't hit three's

Gurley just said on the radio that Baylor is so much more athletic than us, nice to know I ain’t the only one that see it.

We are falling apart now

Pitiful

@wissox said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

@BeddieKU23 said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

This one's over

Oh come on Beddie! Bshark and kcmatt always used to say the same things. 5 point game, er 8 now.

Its over

Offensive foul fest

BALL GAME

@BeddieKU23 OK leave then. What good does it do to tell everyone it's over?

Another road loss and looking like this team will be Bills first to lose more than 10 games

@jayballer67 easy what you say about Dejuan because @jayballer67 will defend him hard….oh wait

Yeah hard to make any when he’s shot 1 a game and is left literally unguarded at the three point line the entire game. Just kills the offensive spacing and flow.

But hey I’m just a hater and don’t know the game….about to be an 8 loss 4/5 seed KU team. Oh but ballin’ he won a title (yeah that comment knows u didn’t watch the game. Had a nice lob and two steals and his arse road the bench as remy made clutch play after clutch play). Just STOP!

There is a reason he’s like the 5th-6th best pg in the big 12 and go figure our team is in the same position seed wise…it’s as if guards win in March or yada yada

Bill can keep flexin that level up saying with his d2 pg and another round of 32 exit

Way to go El marko

Familiar territory for us this year

@kjayhawks Level up baby!!!!

Bills dream at the 1 and the 4 is getting him just worked by trash Scott Drew, byu, ucf, isu….shall I go on?

Bill lost this team

Juan with his text book missed layup lol

@BeddieKU23 it look that way for sure, he lost the 2005 team too

@kjayhawks LEVEL UP!!!

@kuballin10 said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

@jayballer67 easy what you say about Dejuan because @jayballer67 will defend him hard….oh wait

Yeah hard to make any when he’s shot 1 a game and is left literally unguarded at the three point line the entire game. Just kills the offensive spacing and flow.

But hey I’m just a hater and don’t know the game….about to be an 8 loss 4/5 seed KU team. Oh but ballin’ he won a title (yeah that comment knows u didn’t watch the game. Had a nice lob and two steals and his arse road the bench as remy made clutch play after clutch play). Just STOP!

There is a reason he’s like the 5th-6th best pg in the big 12 and go figure our team is in the same position seed wise…it’s as if guards win in March or yada yada

Bill can keep flexin that level up saying with his d2 pg and another round of 32 exit

So glad you decided to show up- - -always glad to see an ass make even a bigger ass out. - -Always funny when you decide to spout off aftewards of himself

@BeddieKU23 Nah he built it and he gets what he deserved

@kjayhawks Don’t hate his the best pg at KU ever with a title…just ask our HOF coach who never plays favorites

I said it after the BYU game and I’ll say it again, do we win another game this season??

@jayballer67 Just for you buttercup. Figured after you called game you’d logged off

@kjayhawks yeah Bill ain’t losing to Tang twice in a season….we will be AMPED for that one and win by maybe 8-10 😂

@kuballin10 said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

@jayballer67 Just for you buttercup. Figured after you called game you’d logged off

Oh I'm sure & I figured about time you showed your class roflmafao

Self imposed suspension hurt us in getting a bench

So this is what it feels like to be K-State....

@kuballin10 Tang has proven to be Bill’s daddy at this point.

You're all embarrassing yourself.

Why I’m ranting is because we have to deal with this bad basketball for another year with DeJuan at pg because not even Steph Curry would start over him.

Bill couldn’t trust a frosh and won’t even LOOK at a legit transfer who can fill it up

Get it under ten and make it a game

@wissox nah just watching the game and being realistic about the state of the team.

They suck on the road which shows they are weak mentally but also athletically

It’s okay to tell the truth even when it isn’t sunshine

These refs suck. Kj tackled him

@DanR ya I don’t think it’s why we are losing but terrible crew here today.

I miss having 4 capable perimeter players around a big.I love KJ but the court shrinks because he isn't on the 3pt line.Just imaging Hunt with shooters smh

Crazy stat, we are shooting 60% from the floor and down double digits. We don’t have a ton of turn overs either. The achilles heal continues to be 3 point shooting and 3 point defense.

EJ

Juan with another missed layup

Nice Elmarko

El marko playing with some fire

Mari OMG

Mari killed that run with a stupid shot and a weak ass foul

Not that mari

How about this as you so brilliantly said ( BUTTERCUP ) if your that un happy with our HOF Coach and his Coaching tactics and his favoritism & his playing favorites- you know this is Americ you have that freedom of Choice to go route for ANY OTHR TEAM IN America. iI'm sure they would love to have such A loyal dedicated fan such as yourself- -oh say like Baylor- -Texas-- - K/State- -Iowa State --hell any of them would be proud to have you. - -Hell we would be glad to see. - -your choice I'm sure you would be much happier wouldn't have to cry and whine and bitch so much.- easy choice don't you think

Wow. Kevin PUSHED HIM

El marko has played some decent D too

Just shoot the runner Juan

These refs can’t make up their mind if they want call tick tack or no blood no foul. Would rather have the put back from Hunter

Couple more stops and we have a chance. Pressure’s on the bears

Need stops c'mon guys

We can still win this guys

Damn another lay up missed

Right on que Kev

Fran he misses that alot

OMG

We had them but 3 missed layups the last 2 minutes smh. Sometimes all you can do is laugh Juan hits the hardest layup in history but misses open ones

I’ll give Baylor some credit for hitting some tough shots

Well I don't know why Johnny has been sitting

Baylor seems to have hit about 10 late clock shots

@RockChalkinTexas el marko has been playing decent

@kjayhawks I’d rather he shoot 5 threes a game

Had the great steal and layup

Dennis comes right back at him gets into the paint and hits the floater cause Juan is a bad one on one defender

Then he doesn’t shoot the open three he tries to force it into KJ. His lack of ability to shoot a freaking jump shot is comically bad. How do u not practice shooting off the dribble mid range and 1,000 threes a summer????

The Morrii shot literally 1,000 -1,500 threes a day in the off-season

Good fight here guys, Baylor is solid. They really gave away the game to Houston a week ago.

@RockChalkinTexas Because we can’t possibly win without Juan!!!

if EJ is playing good then Bill has his head so messed up because he can’t sit KJ or Juan for a better three point shooter when down 8-10 all half

KJ 1 rebound smh

Could’ve used Johnny on the boards late though

We got killed on the glass and in 3 point shooting, that’s the difference in this one folks

@kjayhawks Houston dominated that game from the tip and peed it down their leg second half then like a title team held on in regulation and OT

Definitely not us but then again tell me Houston’s guards and then compare them to ours

@rcjhdraft said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

KJ 1 rebound smh

Where is @Texas-Hawk-10….he will annihilate us with how bad a rebounder Kj is and he’s proving true by a mile

Never lost 7 conference games BEFORE

We are spoiled.

Still with them

@DanR Or his shooting instead of make a contested layup and give up a bucket on the other end

No one should EVER rush the court after beating us

Gonna have to figure out a way to solve the three disparity

@DanR idk maybe our fifth year sr who can shoot 35-40% throw up 4/5 a game because he’s literally unguarded and defenders go under every screen ALL EFFIN YEAR

GREAT ADJUSTMENTS BY BILL ADVISING HIS PET

If I’m Self KJ needs to play less minutes, I’m sorry he’s a great kid but he can’t shoot and can’t rebound those are two pretty important pieces to being a good basketball player. Start Elmarko and go 4 out 1 in and lets see if it works. What we are doing with 2 bigs obviously is not working

@kjayhawks He doesn’t have the cojones to do that but he should

His weak arse assistants don’t have the nuts to challenge him on it either

KJ and EJ off the bench

Juan

Timberlake

Kev

Furphy

Hunter

@kuballin10 said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

@wissox nah just watching the game and being realistic about the state of the team.

They suck on the road which shows they are weak mentally but also athletically

It’s okay to tell the truth even when it isn’t sunshine

Your takes are not the truth. They're an opinion and a bad one at that. To prove it, you show up only when things go sour. "See I told you so" is your usual 4th grade retort.

We're all fans trying to enjoy the game, realistically too which we all are. But you have to constantly come in and tell us we're stupid and we're idiots and we're blind loyalists, and all that crap. Just get lost. Go start your own kubuckets and talk to yourself.

Another stat I’ll point out is Baylor finishing the game with 7 fouls 😳

Nunn and Dennis>>>> what we got

Maybe an 18-7 foul differential is as big a reason as any as to why we lost. These refs were corrupt from the get go.

There, fixed it, I won't see KUbball any more.

@wissox You still believe in this 2023-2024 version of the hawks. That is the literal definition of blind loyalist unless you literally aren’t watching this team all year.

We are bad away from home and gonna get bounced early because we don’t have a legit pg or 4 man

I was told back in November to show back up in March and talk then.

HOF hasn’t adjusted crap cause his two pets can’t ever come off the court for better shooters

@wissox Geez you are literally as bad as my 92 year old Grandma whining about the refs…get out with that weak sauce

Baylor was more aggressive from the tip and we sucked

@wissox don't answer him. Let him just talk.

@Crimsonorblue22 Agreed tough to respond to the truth because taking any other side makes you look like a clueless fool

@kuballin10 said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

@Crimsonorblue22 Agreed tough to respond to the truth because taking any other side makes you look like a clueless fool

Speakin of fools - -how ya doin bub

@kuballin10 said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

@Crimsonorblue22 Agreed tough to respond to the truth because taking any other side makes you look like a clueless fool

didn't you get banned once before, then he gives you a 2nd chance - speaking of slow learners

@kuballin10 said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

@wissox You still believe in this 2023-2024 version of the hawks. That is the literal definition of blind loyalist unless you literally aren’t watching this team all year.

We are bad away from home and gonna get bounced early because we don’t have a legit pg or 4 man

I was told back in November to show back up in March and talk then.

HOF hasn’t adjusted crap cause his two pets can’t ever come off the court for better shooters

ummm wrong- - ONCE AGAIN what better shooters' are you replacing them with there EINSTEIN - - oh ya forgot about that - -get the hell out of here with that crap. you DO understand how stupid you sound- - holy crap

@wissox said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

@kuballin10 said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

@wissox nah just watching the game and being realistic about the state of the team.

They suck on the road which shows they are weak mentally but also athletically

It’s okay to tell the truth even when it isn’t sunshine

Your takes are not the truth. They're an opinion and a bad one at that. To prove it, you show up only when things go sour. "See I told you so" is your usual 4th grade retort.

We're all fans trying to enjoy the game, realistically too which we all are. But you have to constantly come in and tell us we're stupid and we're idiots and we're blind loyalists, and all that crap. Just get lost. Go start your own kubuckets and talk to yourself.

that's what I was saying earlier , this idiot waits until the game is 3/4 over and then comes in to talk his smack, - -but during the game when things ARE GOOD nowhere to be found, when we kickin butt - -nowhere to be found you have to understand he is not the brightest light in the house. don't pay him any attention, that's what this fool thrives on

@kuballin10 said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

@kjayhawks He doesn’t have the cojones to do that but he should

His weak arse assistants don’t have the nuts to challenge him on it either

KJ and EJ off the bench

Juan

Timberlake

Kev

Furphy

Hunter

Timerlake ? - - Timberlake - - -TIMBERLAKE - -well you just showed that yep you know squat - - -you trying to replace So you gonna try and replace KJ with Timberlake - -lmao - -for one this guy is WAY to inconsistent on one end and a HUGE defensive liability on the other. - -Ya that's it lets do that geez I said you wasn't the brightest light in the house , NOW I'm thinking you don't even have a switch - -OMG

The officiating was not great, but I think I have been sensitized to horrible officiating because it didn't strike me as egregiously bad as it was with other games.

I did want to ask about that layup that Kevin missed on the fast break in the second half-- I thought a Baylor guy hit the backboard as his shot was coming off the rim.. Isn't that basket interference? I know they called a goal-tending a few min earlier that apparently was controversial, but that's no excuse to swallow the whistle on that one.... Did I not see that correctly? There was no mention by Fran and John (not exactly evidence I would ever build a case on.)

This is probably the downest I have ever been on KU BB in my life time. Can we even beat KSU Tuesday?

@kjayhawks said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

This is probably the downest I have ever been on KU BB in my life time. Can we even beat KSU Tuesday?

I get it... But, apparently you didn't live through the end of the Ted Owens era.

Also, I think there's a decent chance we go 2-4 the rest of the way for the season.

3-3 would be a pleasant surprise.

4-3 would be over-achieving.

5-3 would be miraculous.

@bskeet No Sir I’ll be 36 years young this year. I’m just worried we are gonna turn into Indiana at this point. Recruiting looks bad no shooters on our commit list and I have just never been this down thinking about not only our near future (first round loss to a school no one has heard of) or the future as in next season. This is really really bad IMO.

I don't care if the refs are or aren't why KU lost today, but holy shit that was some terrible officiating today. When Bill Self stops working the refs during a game, you know it's bad. KU took 45 field goal attempts, most near the basket and Baylor's bigs only committed two fouls the entire game? Are you f-ing kidding me?

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

I don't care if the refs are or aren't why KU lost today, but holy shit that was some terrible officiating today. When Bill Self stops working the refs during a game, you know it's bad. KU took 45 field goal attempts, most near the basket and Baylor's bigs only committed two fouls the entire game? Are you f-ing kidding me?

That's been consistent most of the conference season. Kevin and Hunter get hit and rarely get the call. They will call a foul when KJ gets hit a bit more frequently, but we don't ask him to go to the basket as much.

The foul on Elmarko when he was knocked on his ass was completely wrong. That was a charge 99% of the time.

To be clear, the team made its fair share of mistakes that put the team at disadvantage (Jamari taking an ill-advised shot in the final 3 min when we had closed the deficit and Kevin with a bewildering pass turnover.)

@bskeet ya I wouldn’t say the refs cost us the game with the mistakes we made but they damn sure made it more difficult on us.

@bskeet said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

The officiating was not great, but I think I have been sensitized to horrible officiating because it didn't strike me as egregiously bad as it was with other games.

I did want to ask about that layup that Kevin missed on the fast break in the second half-- I thought a Baylor guy hit the backboard as his shot was coming off the rim.. Isn't that basket interference? I know they called a goal-tending a few min earlier that apparently was controversial, but that's no excuse to swallow the whistle on that one.... Did I not see that correctly? There was no mention by Fran and John (not exactly evidence I would ever build a case on.)

Yep you could hear the backboard thud easily.

@Zabudda said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

@bskeet said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

The officiating was not great, but I think I have been sensitized to horrible officiating because it didn't strike me as egregiously bad as it was with other games.

I did want to ask about that layup that Kevin missed on the fast break in the second half-- I thought a Baylor guy hit the backboard as his shot was coming off the rim.. Isn't that basket interference? I know they called a goal-tending a few min earlier that apparently was controversial, but that's no excuse to swallow the whistle on that one.... Did I not see that correctly? There was no mention by Fran and John (not exactly evidence I would ever build a case on.)

Yep you could hear the backboard thud easily.

And it was clear on replay.

No explanation.

We didn't play that badly and played hard. Their freshman center hit some baskets like a guy who hits golf balls through a tree without touching anything. I think Dajuan did more than his part and Kevin was a little rusty but glad he was back. Hunter was dogged and swarmed for sure. We just had another 25 rebound game like the 26 against TT. KJ ends up away from the basket action and that is his main stat place. Elmarko got us into position to get a chance but we fell away at the end. Furphy is looking like he is not comfortable or confident right now.

Well, was this game decided on the FT line?
Pretty much the point difference. 6-8 vs 15-20.
Other than the bitch slapping we took on the boards, the rest of the offensive stats are close.

I can't help but think of that TCU game that was decided at the end by Udeh. If we don't win that game, this season seems a lot darker than it is right now.

This team seems wildly inconsistent -- beating UConn and Houston and losing to KState and UCF. It's hard to know how this all translates when we get to the tournament. I'd like to think we could win a couple rounds if we have reasonable matchups with teams outside of the B12, but who knows.

I would say our fate is largely dependent on the seeding and matchup.

@bskeet I’m worried we could end up as a 4 seed. I feel like the 2s and 1s do much better open weekend than the 3s and the 4s historically.

This breaks it down. Doesn't include 2023 and Purdues first round embarassment. But I'm cool even with a 4 or 5 seed. If every seed played to form 5 seeds wouldn't make it to the round of 16, but this shows even 5 seeds are over .500 in the 2nd round of the dance. The kryptonite for 4/5 seeds is the 3rd round where their records are well below .500, but magically their elite 8 record is above .500. But only one 4-5 seed has ever won it.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2023-02-07/records-every-seed-march-madness-1985-2022 ↗

Something is clearly amiss with the team right now. We don't see the typical KU toughness and poise, esp. in late game situations and hostile environments. There doesn't seem to be the fire and passion we are used to seeing - no real leadership. I hate to say it, but this team seems...just soft...

On the other hand, we are the only team in the country who has beaten 3 of the top 4-6 teams in the country. Tennessee could end up as a 1 seed, which would mean we've already beaten 3 of the 4 #1 seeds. But, we've also lost to not very good teams and struggled to put away bad ones.

A first round exit would not be a surprise, nor would getting to the Elite 8. Just really difficult to see this team putting together a multi-game run against better competition at this point...

Are we due for a little more tournament luck or did we use it all in 2022?

@approxinfinity we’re due for sure. 22 kinda made up for the all time bad luck in 20

I haven’t looked, but how does this team do against the point spread? Maybe that will tell us something about how we’re perceived or expected to play.

A very odd team as others have pointed out. For a while I felt we could have won the Baylor game.

@rockchalkjayhawk I honestly felt a little better after the Baylor game. Several things didn't go the Hawks way that game, yet they hung around and were in it to the end despite not being able to stop Baylor at all down the stretch.

NCAA tourney is a different animal, anything can happen depending on matchups. Timeouts are longer for more rest.

KU can very easily make a run to FF.

I am optimistic.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

@approxinfinity we’re due for sure. 22 kinda made up for the all time bad luck in 20

I dunno. That 2020 team was one of my favorites. I still feel hollow about the sport. 2022 wasn’t even that great for me following the huge disappointment that was 2020.

While others are extremely pissed that KU is only a top 15 team, I’m pretty damn happy they’re doing this well with no horrendous baggage on the team. Winning with Arterio would just be gross. I’m glad I don’t have to rectify those feelings - good because KU won, bad because they won with no morals.

Maybe if 2020 didn’t happen I would be less apathetic, but I’m not going to get too worked up over a few losses. This team doesn’t have “it” so why put those expectations on them? Enjoy the ride.

@dylans said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

@FarmerJayhawk said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

@approxinfinity we’re due for sure. 22 kinda made up for the all time bad luck in 20

I dunno. That 2020 team was one of my favorites. I still feel hollow about the sport. 2022 wasn’t even that great for me following the huge disappointment that was 2020.

While others are extremely pissed that KU is only a top 15 team, I’m pretty damn happy they’re doing this well with no horrendous baggage on the team. Winning with Arterio would just be gross. I’m glad I don’t have to rectify those feelings - good because KU won, bad because they won with no morals.

Maybe if 2020 didn’t happen I would be less apathetic, but I’m not going to get too worked up over a few losses. This team doesn’t have “it” so why put those expectations on them? Enjoy the ride.

Kinda what I'm thinking at this point. The guys have put a lot of doubt in the National media's head, and other teams fan bases heads about us this Season, and with just ause. So actually there is not a lot of pressure like in other years cause of the way this season has played out. I actually feel like I might even be able to relax a little more cause even I'm not expecting a lot this year after how it's played out every winwe happen to get in the post Season is all gravy. - Hell there is even a really good chance we are a 5 seed in the Big Twelve post season Conference tourney, can you imagine - - a five seed - that just means an extra day having to play - -so let it be written -- so let it be done - - -ROCK CHALK, ONCE A HAWK - -ALWAYS A HAWK.

@jayballer67 be the 5, slay the 1 in sweet 16, wear their crown.

@approxinfinity said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

@jayballer67 be the 5, slay the 1 in sweet 16, wear their crown.

Noooo! There is at least one 5/12 upset. The NCAA would love for that to be a big name team (like KU).

@approxinfinity said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

@jayballer67 be the 5, slay the 1 in sweet 16, wear their crown.

I was talking about being a 5 seed in the Big twelve post season tourney lol

@Gorilla72 said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

@approxinfinity said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

@jayballer67 be the 5, slay the 1 in sweet 16, wear their crown.

Noooo! There is at least one 5/12 upset. The NCAA would love for that to be a big name team (like KU).

Like I was telling approx , I am talking about the Big 12 post Season Conference Tourney , not the NCAA's. Last bracketology that I saw for the NCAA they still had us a a 3 seed - -not sure how that's possible but they do

Still just having a hard time of wrapping my head arounds some things said here. - -Wondering why is it that almost every College Peer I listen to and they talk about - just like I just heard another saying that and I quote from him (That there is NOT a better Coach in America without a doubt that's better then teaching the game of Basketball and Coaching people then Bill Self ) - - -Hmmm and yet, we have one's here that for some reason seem to think he is terrible Coaching and questions his decisions and he has favorites and plays them no matter what. - It seems to me that his peers that Coach against him and have interacted with him-- - and are around him in the Coaching circle just might know just a little more then other Couch potato Coach's.-- I mean we know your team would NEVE lose a game because you NEVE make a bad decision from the Couch. -can't quite grasp that I think I'll stick with Coach Self and his ability to make the decisions, we all know him remember ? Our HOF Coach that we have loved for wht 21 years now - -must be doing something right. - -Ya Think ?

Y’all are way more optimistic than me, that’s for sure. I’ll probably celebrate more than I ever have in the past if we win in the first round, I may go streaking lol.

@kjayhawks said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

Y’all are way more optimistic than me, that’s for sure. I’ll probably celebrate more than I ever have in the past if we win in the first round, I may go streaking lol.

OH LORDIE - - PLEASE NO LMAO - -please no lol - - just messing with ya buddy

Just remember tournament is on neutral courts whereas we have struggled on the road in hostile conditions.

Upsets happen all the time, other teams will have pressure too.

With senior leadership I am optimistic on our chances on neutral courts.

@AsadZ Agree. This is why I think Timberlake is more important than most people think. His experience matters. He's the kind of player that could make a difference in the first few rounds of the tournament.

But we will need him to stay hot like he was against KState in virtually every game going forward. I don't think that's asking a lot. I think that's how he has performed in practices and it's finally making its way to the game.

We need the ole furphy back too. He's giving us good minutes, driving, getting to the line, getting boards. D is so much better too. We just need some of his 3's.

@bskeet said in Wounded Jayhawks game thread:

@AsadZ Agree. This is why I think Timberlake is more important than most people think. His experience matters. He's the kind of player that could make a difference in the first few rounds of the tournament.

But we will need him to stay hot like he was against KState in virtually every game going forward. I don't think that's asking a lot. I think that's how he has performed in practices and it's finally making its way to the game.

If they can run sets to free him up , get him open looks, might be good

@Crimsonorblue22 regarding Furphy, as a freshman, you can’t really count on much in the tournament. He might be a huge factor one game and disappear the next. Typically the more experienced players are more consistent with less extreme lows. But this team has been inconsistent most of the year so not sure this logic applies.