1st day of season. 1 upset as UCF knocks off TEXAM. Court storming too. Poverty franchise fans court storm against poverty franchise team.

Texas, ranked 19 couldn't contain OhioSt and lost a wire to wire win for the Bucks.

Misery lost to Memphis and South Carolina lost to North Florida. SEC loses 4 games on the first day.

Baylor got it handed to them out in Spokane. Baylor always goes out and seeks good opponents early in the season, but that's a rough way to start as an 8th ranked team.

Everyone else in the league won. OKieSt had to come back to defeat UWGB as old friend Bryce T scored 22.

Robbie Avila, the wonderkid from Indiana St who transferred to St. Louis was going great guns until he rolled his ankle looking like he'll be sitting out for a bit.

Illinois had a great debut from a kid from Canada named Riley who scored 31 against EIU. Their shot chart was interesting to say the least. It reflects an NBA discussion on 3 pointers that have some calling for a removal of the line calling it boring. Looking at this chart I might agree. 🐦 View Tweet/photo/1

I now have 3 streaming services so I can watch all my teams. Head spinning stuff but at least I was able to cast the KU game on the TV and watch UW on the computer at the same time. It's the new reality and I don't necessarily like it.

But hats off to the upcoming season, will be fun as always!

@wissox Holy Crap I just saw the Baylor Score what the hell happened,, you got your ass handed to you by 38 points ? - - - WOW. -That can either mean # 1 your not the highly ranked team OR Gonzaga - -if it was close BUT 38 points is better Dam

Game was at Gonzaga. Tough place to play. Clearly, Baylor was not exactly ready for that.

I do think these are the kinds of games that help teams down the road. They can learn a lot from that game.

Zags are decent and similar hyped place to us at Arkansas. Baylor will give us trouble with their athleticism and length.

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@wissox good one

Crazy shot chart

@BeddieKU23 Have you heard any of the talk that the NBA needs to eliminate the 3 ball?

@wissox

No I have not but with a shot chart like that, the game certainly has changed..

By the way, thx for the quick recap. I saw scores of other teams this morning but didn't have a chance to see who was good on other teams.

One I missed last night was Syracuse winning by only 4 over LeMoyne which I've never heard of.

Maybe the biggest upset so far. Columbia defeats Villanova at Nova. Fan part for me is one of my old students plays a bit as a freshman for Columbia and scored 2 points! Gianni Cobb, a name to watch and if you want, he's got All American hair. 🐦 View Tweet/photo/1

@wissox that hair is wild! Looks like a halo around his head. Or like hes running in front of a blond girl in every picture.

@approxinfinity His dad owns a barbershop and Gianni has had hair like that ever since I've known him. He's very easy to keep an eye on when watching his team on TV!

Did anyone know SMU is in the ACC now? Dallas, Atlantic Coast, makes perfect sense. At least Stanford and Cali are on a coast.

@wissox i had a dream i had wild big hair and a giant beard last night. I think your post was the inception.

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Did anyone know SMU is in the ACC now? Dallas, Atlantic Coast, makes perfect sense. At least Stanford and Cali are on a coast.

Ya I knew when all the expansion was going on, They bought their way into the ACC. They even gave up their share of the league Revenue sharing for like Five yrs or more just so they could b accepted. They came in the same time
Stanford and Cal did

@approxinfinity I had a dream last night that we beat UNC 92-89. I am traveling so I haven’t seen the game yet but I’ll be anxious to watch later and see the score.

@wissox

Really entertaining. Lots of highs, some lows, but a dub in the end

@wissox said in Other games 2024-2025:

Did anyone know SMU is in the ACC now? Dallas, Atlantic Coast, makes perfect sense. At least Stanford and Cali are on a coast.

SMU is only 250 miles from a coast.... ;)

Wow Colorado needed OT to get past Northern Colorado

Maybe that's like KU and Wichita State? The little in-state rival plays above their ceiling when it's against the big state u school?

@wissox First half was brilliant, everything was going in.

2nd half was a different story, I wont blame it on refs but foul disparity is something to ponder.

Mayo is a real deal and Flory has a very high ceiling.

UNC guards are very good, super fast.

If their Bigs develop, they will make a lot of noise.

@AsadZ said in Other games 2024-2025:

@wissox First half was brilliant, everything was going in.

2nd half was a different story, I wont blame it on refs but foul disparity is something to ponder.

Mayo is a real deal and Flory has a very high ceiling.

I felt like the first half energy was unsustainable. KU came out too hyped and UNC was a bit overwhelmed. An inferior opponent would have wilted away as KU coasted the second half. Kudos to UNC for making it a game when KU went flat.

So uh, no worries about Zeke Mayo's game translating up anymore lol

Hunter defending the last play of the game and running to Self and an old school double five between them. Bill wanted this one. Watching the highlights for the fourth time and noticing one team played chippy and it wasn't us.
I could see the excitement from our studly bench guys and this team may have come together a bit. Spent a couple of service years in NC and very nice people especially Kinston but of the college towns the best action was acquired in Winston-Salem where lots of tobacco was grown and a uniform was an asset. Michigan State game will be it's usual war.

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So uh, no worries about Zeke Mayo's game translating up anymore lol

None. I was one of the skeptics.

In other games last night #22 UCLA lost to Nevada. #24 Mississippi only beat Grambling by 2. All BIG 12 entries won their matchups with Colorado coming the closest to an upset (?) when the beat N. Colorado by 2.

I hoped Zeke would be a solid addition, maybe a good 6th man. I was not expecting him to come in and immediately go off for 20+ against a top 10 team with so much speed. Good stuff!

Anyone watching Baylor Arkansas?

@approxinfinity No, who won?

Baylor

Auburn Houston was a banger

@FarmerJayhawk Didn't get to watch. After their turmoil it's pretty impressive to go on the plane to Houston and put up a fight. Pun fully intended.

BIG 12 looking strong early. League teams only have two losses and both losses are to ranked teams. Of course Baylor got whooped, but then beat Arkansas. Got quite a few wins against ranked teams already.

@wissox said in Other games 2024-2025:

BIG 12 looking strong early. League teams only have two losses and both losses are to ranked teams. Of course Baylor got whooped, but then beat Arkansas. Got quite a few wins against ranked teams already.

B12 has a gaudy record with only the 2 losses, but only 4 teams have played a decent foe - virtually no Power 5 opponents. Basically, the B12 is 3-2 against ranked teams - wins against UNC, Arkansas and TA&M - losses to Gonzaga and Auburn...

Anyone see auburn flying around like airplanes after their win over Houston? Pretty sure our coach wouldn't like it! Stupid, joke was on them.

Bruce Pearl is their coach. Correct.

@AsadZ figures, huh?

@AsadZ must've been a crazy knock down drag out

Anybody read the Utah AD accused the big 12 refs of cheating during their game against byu. Fined 40,000. Oh, fb.

Utah is a mess. BYU cheer coach was knocked out by a bottle thrown from the stands during the game. Unbelievable.

I didn’t watch the Utah vs BYU game but apparently they are upset that defensive holding was called extending BYUs games winning drive. While Utah scored zero points and only gained 79 yards offensively in the second half…… odd lol

Purdue's 7'4" freshman center gone for the season with a broken fibia. Tough news for them and they likely will drop in the rankings. Beat Yale by 8 tonight. #2 Bama only won by 8 at home over McNeese. No major upsets today as the big boys continue to beat up the little boys.

I see Zuby Ejiofor, KU to St John’s a couple of years ago, still has scoring and rebounding woes. Pitino may bench the junior.

@Gorilla72 6.5points per game on 42% shooting, for a big that’s rough.

Udeh’s 10 points (64%) 9 rebound average is solid. Looks like he’s turning into a contributor.

I was disappointed when they left. I wonder how one or both would’ve developed at KU, but Hunt and Flory are much more talented/better.

@dylans Udeh I was disappointed in leaving, I think he had grown into a solid player. Flory I think has a higher ceiling than both. But with KJ and Hunt on the roster before they dipped out. They knew playing time would be pretty limited.

Flagg is going to be terrific but he’s had a BRUTAL last couple minutes.

Haha, I feel bad making fun of a freshman in college but Flagg commits two turnovers when Duke had a chance to tie or take lead in last 15 seconds.

@FarmerJayhawk who guards him?

Future opponent Oakland played Illinois toughly last night. Didn't win, but they were no slouches.

Minnesota scores 14 first half points on their way to a loss to N. Texas.

Washington was losing by 11 at the half to Seattle Pacific a D3 team. Came back strong in the 2nd but goodness that's bad.

@wissox

Oakland did lose by a little bit in their previous game, a 44 pt loss to Boise St. I think it says more about Illinois then anything we shall see..

Cam Carter and LSU kind of hanging it on K/State at the half 43-31.

Actually had a chance to be up by 20 at the half but a couple of TO'S by LSU late and a three by the kitty's now down 12-- Ya the same Cam Carter that played at K/State now at LSU

Cats STINKY

@FarmerJayhawk that was poor coaching on Scheyer‘s part. I’m gonna ISO a 17 year old repeatedly with the game in the balance against JRs and SRs with ample experience ( odd saying that about UK). It will be interesting to see how much longer before they are callling for Scheyer’s head. Especially with Blias and Jay Williams yapping about how this the most talented team Dook has had in decades. Jay said it was the only team that could rival the 2001 national team he was on which was loaded with NBA talent.

K strighty got their tails handed to them on the Boards- -43 -- -25 , need we say more ? - Hawkins id not impress me, Cam Carter ended up with 20 for LSU

@jayballer67 they sure hype up Hawkins after last game like he was a god

@kjayhawks nobody’s going to do less with more. Flagg would be the perfect 4 for this team and KU did all they could but alas was not meant to be.

@FarmerJayhawk 💯 KJ definitely wouldn’t be starting and that may have played a role. Hopefully Self reminds KJ of this before the game lol

@kjayhawks exactly lol. Nike was somewhat trying to protect their investment only for him to turn around and sign with… New Balance

@FarmerJayhawk that’s the thing right now with NIL, it’s gonna be who can give me the biggest check right now.

As much as I despise the kittens, I DO have to say that if Jimmy Dykes could bury his nose any further up LSU'S ass he would break it for sure- - His bias towards the SEC is un bearable Every single time LSU would do something/Anything Dykes would be like OH what great defense- -or how solid they were- just on and on- -it was so wet from him choking up SEC Bullshit - -always been that way

@kjayhawks If you think KJ would have sat if Flagg came here you don’t know Self.

Flagg would have played the 3 spot and started next to Kj, Hunt, Juan and pick your 5th starter

No way senior Kj is not starting….Bill has never done this especially with his favorites

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@jayballer67 they sure hype up Hawkins after last game like he was a god

KJ Adams is a better basketball player than Coleman Hawkins.

Coleman through three games at KSU looks...exactly how he did at Illinois. The idea of Coleman is better than the actual basketball player. Oh and shockingly, guards from Cal State Fullerton and UIC don't look great against real comp. But they go back to playing Slap Dick State and Grab Ass Tech after this, so they can have more more feel good wins. Their roster is very strange, loaded up on middling big men.

@BShark "Grab Ass Tech" Is that where Chris Beard coached?

@wissox - Rick Pitino, IIRC.

@Gorilla72 Sadly there's a list and it grows.

Missed the KState game. Took a break from hoops and watched the interesting golf movie The Long Drive on Netflix. True story about a bunch of Mexican kids at a border HS in Texas 60 years ago who won the state championship. The movie would have sucked if it was fictional because it was presented as too far fetched to be true.

Wisconsin 55-44 over Arizona. Oh I should add at the half!!

@wissox well you are having a good night so far then lol

Labaron with 18 points, 5 rebounds and 4 assists……we missed a legit pg

This game made the eyes bleed. 63 fouls called, almost evenly, 87 FT's shot. Zona was great rebounding, but couldn't stop fouling and old friend Caleb Love made a crucial foul and technical when a kid said something to him and Caleb shoved him. Then the Badgers made a three. 7 point swing . It really helps a lot when you make FT's and UW is leading the nation this year in percent. 41-47 from the stripe. Another way to look at is they made 25 shots, but scored 103 points.

It’s really annoying how early in the year the refs call EVERYTHING then in 2 months Hunter will get all but assaulted and no call

@FarmerJayhawk I saw Arizona's chat page and they were worried that the BIG 12 would be officiated like that. It's hard to describe the badness of BIG12 refs, but it's never been like tonight!

Caleb Love still out there living his best life, building brick houses with all the shots he misses! After basketball he can become a professional brick mason

47! Free throws!?! At what point do the refs start to think maybe the fans are here to see the players and not us?

87 combined fts is horrific...

@BShark It was really fascinating because Tonje (who is a Missouri transfer) really appeared to just be trying to draw contact. And Arizona didn't adjust.

Seems to me we had a turkey week game once, maybe against Duke (?) that was similar in numbers of fouls. Anyone remember that?

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It’s really annoying how early in the year the refs call EVERYTHING then in 2 months Hunter will get all but assaulted and no call

He doesn't help himself. He reacts to all those hacks with a look of shock, going to the refs and saying things, and gesturing with his hands/arms he was hacked.

Instead... he should do more of putting on an injury show after he gets hacked. That's a lot more effective at earning calls. Let Self impose ref pressure. Players, especially big men, just don't get respect and whining to refs only makes it worse!

Arizona had 6 assists in that game on 28 made FG's. They also were +24 in total rebounds and +22 in offensive rebounds, and +24 in FG attempts that game.

Also of note last night and not mentioned yet, Purdue knocked off Alabama.

6-Purdue at 15-Marquette at 8 on FS1 is worth checking in on during our breaks tonight. Marquette favored by 5.5 is a surprise to me.

Baylor beat St. John's in double OT after trailing by 18 at on point. Jeremy Roach made a 3 at the buzzer after former Jayhawk Zuby Ejiofor missed a pair of FT's while St. John's was up 2 with about 6 seconds left.

@Texas-Hawk-10 I'd run on the treadmill, came home a sweaty mess and decided to go upstairs to shower when it read 9.3 seconds and St. Johns up by 5 so I figured no chance. What a shocker!

Ouch. Tough ending for Zuby. But I’m glad he’s not missing his free throws for us.

Zuby had 22/10 in 42 minutes, but only 6/12 at the stripe. He’s showing potential.

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@wissox said in Other games 2024-2025:

BIG 12 looking strong early. League teams only have two losses and both losses are to ranked teams. Of course Baylor got whooped, but then beat Arkansas. Got quite a few wins against ranked teams already.

B12 has a gaudy record with only the 2 losses, but only 4 teams have played a decent foe - virtually no Power 5 opponents. Basically, the B12 is 3-2 against ranked teams - wins against UNC, Arkansas and TA&M - losses to Gonzaga and Auburn...

So, the B12 is NOT looking so strong a week or so later. 5 undefeated teams, but only the Hawks have played a P5 team. 11 non-conferences losses, only a couple of bad ones, but only KU, Baylor and UCF have wins against a P5 opponent.

Whoa, Tennessee beating Baylor by 20 midway through first half.

Baylor looks atrocious

47-20 at the half.

Nebby knocks off Creighton. Upset? We know Fred is a pretty decent coach.

Iowa loses to Utah St. LOL

Would be neat if dook Zona goes to about 3 overtimes. Also bizarre they’re playing a road game in November

Hey guys did you know Flagg is 17

@FarmerJayhawk said in Other games 2024-2025:

Hey guys did you know Flagg is 17

First I've heard of it, broadcast teams never bring this up! Weird!

Heard it hear first….when Self retires ….Ben McCollum

4 D2 titles which you know I love and he has 4 transfers from said D2 school 5-0 at Drake. Great offensive sets and principles on defense are solid for 2024

Drake against vandy 7:30 espn

@kuballin10 Him or Wes Miller are near the top of my list...

I like this up and comer, Jerome Tang

Hahahahahahaha I couldn’t keep a straight face either

Speaking of Tang, Liberty takes down KSU in whatever crap tournament they are playing in

Kstate is very very bad

@BShark its sickening that Tang 2-2 vs Bill

@kjayhawks Fully expect KU to play their worst game of the season in Manhattan and lose in OT

@kjayhawks Oh crap they ended up losing that game ?- -I know they are all over that kid , can't remember his name at this minute but got Big NIL pay for coming to K/State and isn't doing squat

Feast week viewing is ripe with possibilities. Tonight ISU and Auburn out in Maui ought to be good. Houston plays Bama in a different event in Vegas tomorrow as well. Maui Final on Wednesday likely to include UCONN, UNC, Auburn, or ISU. A lot of top 10 out there in the ocean. Annual waiting out the exposure of over ranked (16th) Indiana will come against Zaga on Thursday in the Bahamas. If I wasn't at relatives Thursday I'd probably watch Arkansas/Illinois, but not interested enough to go home and watch replay. Zona is still looking for a big win and might meet up with Zags in Bahamas. Those are some of the better matchups without mentioning all of the semifinal games that could occur in those tourneys.

Getting ready to watch U Conn & Memphis

I'm getting ready to head off to Vegas. Go Hawks!

This will be my third KU game in Las Vegas. So far the Hawks are a perfect 2-0 with me in attendance. C'mon 3-0! Although that KU/Florida game was close.

Have fun!

How many of these guys playing, UConn and Memphis have been in big 12 + wichita state?

Bill walton drove me nuts at times, but I miss his humor.

I forgot about Walton passing away - -forgot what his cause of passing was

Memphis giving U Conn everything they want. - -I think it's just the two players Huner & Rodgers from Big 12 & Wichita St.

Mentioning Wichita St see they are 5-0 starting out, hearing they are to have a decent team this year, but then again look at their Conference who is in the AAC

U Conn better look out. -- Memphis looks pretty salty - -Memphis up 10

Was cisse sp? At okie state?

Funny the second UConn plays a team with a pulse they get dragged

Little dustup on the court with a Coloradoesque flop after memphis dude got shoved.

Hurley getting T-d up in last minute of OT of a tied game is not two time championship type of stuff.

ESPN cries as UCONN gets knocked out earlier.

@Crimsonorblue22 oh ya your right. He was at Okie st

Hurley's act of trying to intimidate the officials gets old real quick, he was on them from the opening tip. -- Hunter HUGE game for Memphis, they look pretty solid

And now he's complaining about the refs from his presser. What a clown.

@wissox said in Other games 2024-2025:

Hurley getting T-d up in last minute of OT of a tied game is not two time championship type of stuff.

I have to say it was a God awful call and I think Self may have reacted similar if it was him in that situation. Replay just makes it look comical.

UConn plays an aggressive defense and foul about every time on the boards and penetration. They committed 31 fouls to Memphis' 21. I'm sure they got away with some no calls. Refs will typically call games tight to get control whatever that means and will adjust from first to second halves. A good coach will recognize and adjust. We have seen Hunter throw his attitude around and have to sit out early. The same goes for KJ and to a lesser extent Juando.

Gonna be a really good game at eight tonight on ESPN 2 between Auburn and Iowa St- -see how Auburn handle ISU pressure

Espnu

Iowa St looking really salty again -gonna be really hard to beat these guys in Hilton. Brucie and his Auburn crew getting taking to the wood shed so far

ISU taking it to them apparently. Just turned it on. Auburn coming back. Auburn clown just laid on the floor for a minute like he was dead. Everyone comes running over to him, he jumps up with a big smile waving to the crowd. If they call this a flagrant after that act it's pretty bad.

Auburn making a big comeback.

@BeddieKU23 I don't think it was that bad, or at least I could understand why the call was made. The UConn guy was probably making little contact but we really only knew that by benefit of the camera angle of that replay.

North Carolina with a 21 point comeback win against Dayton to avoid the losers bracket.

@wissox

Watching it live I thought it was bad call. The benefit of replay made it look egregious IMO. I have no love for Hurley's antics with the refs every game and he cost his team a potential win. I did enjoy his meltdown though.

Hurley being Hurley. listened to him post game and he was laying it on , saying for the ref to make that call at that point of the game was crazy. Saying that the Memphis player was making an half ass attempt to rebound the ball and Mc Neely had clearly takin the ball and he said again for the ref to make that kind of call at the point of the game was shouldn't of been called.

Well Danny boy here is a news flash for you , doesn't matter what point of the game you were in , doesn't matter if it's a minute after opening tip off , the closing seconds of the half , or the final minute of regulation, if the official calls the foul then it's a foul OR I see they are suppose to say OH wait we are in the Danny Hurly segment of the game and we are not suppose to call anything against U Conn now - ya that must of been what it is. If they see it as a foul , then a foul , is a foul , is a foul sorry Danny that's the way it is

@BeddieKU23 IDK, I just watched it again and it looks like OTB to me. BTW, seeing Liam there and through that game made me wish he'd picked us. He's got a fire that is amazing.

@wissox

Same I watched it again. I don't see where McNeeley did anything but pursue the ball. He didn't push his hands or body into the back of the defender to jump over him, he gets his hand higher then the defender's hand when the ball comes off the rim. Not sure what the offensive player is supposed to do in that situation other than not pursue the ball. To me McNeeley outhustled the other player and got called for it. There was minimal contact which I think is my biggest issue with the call. Should have been a play on but hey it's not KU so I'm fine either way.

Agree on Liam. He's a really good player and wanted him at KU badly but such is life. His fit at Uconn is better then it'd be here.

Liam’s game translates well to D1 but I’d take Rylo and Storr over him.

Man Auburn will be a final 4 contender if they don’t fight too much amongst themselves. Crazy athletic and quick

Speaking of isu’s defense is awesome. It’s very much hack and grab so much that the refs can’t call everything

Unc survived……

Uconn getting a game from Colorado right now. McNeeley is out hurt.

Dang U Conn goes down again-- - - 73-72 by Colorado hmmmm- - -they just got beat no excuses, Colorado would just not go away-- really tough game

GET SOME TAD

Wonder why I like Tad so much?💙❤️🌾

Broome for Auburn. Lordy.

Running with Auburn seems like a poor idea UNC.

Broome is NBA talent NOW. Size, speed.. where did this kid come from?

Yeah... he has been a beast the entire Maui tourney.

@bskeet said in Other games 2024-2025:

Broome is NBA talent NOW. Size, speed.. where did this kid come from?

Best player in the country. He's a 5th year SR and was really good last year too.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Other games 2024-2025:

GET SOME TAD

Need a ballin10 update on the state of the program (UConn)

@bskeet said in Other games 2024-2025:

Broome is NBA talent NOW. Size, speed.. where did this kid come from?

Just off my radar too…. 3rd team all american last year. Started at moorehead state first 2 years. Tested nba draft twice, needs a 3 pt shot improve stock. Making 1.2 3s per game this year. .4 last.

WVirg hanging with the Zags. 3 min left on ESPN

@stoptheflop They really have two women broadcasting this game? I have no problem with it but they're not very good.

LOL, Indiana the annually overrated team gets exposed badly against Louisville losing by 28.

WVA about to knock off Gonzaga

@stoptheflop said in Other games 2024-2025:

WVirg hanging with the Zags. 3 min left on ESPN

WVU knocks off Gonzaga in OT...

Interesting week, #2 UConn loses 2 games, #3 Gonzag loses and #5 IState lost to #4 Auburn. But, #1 is still #1 if KU gets by Furman on Sat.

LOL, UCONN plays at Midnight eastern time something ESPN surely wasn't planning for. This must have been the first year that Chaminade didn't play in the Maui?

@wissox https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2023-11-22/complete-history-chaminade-mens-basketball-maui-invitational ↗

Chaminade had appeared in every Maui Invitational from 1984 to 2017, but that changed in 2018. That season, the tournament changed things up so that Chaminade will play in the "Mainland" bracket in even years but return to the Maui bracket on odd years.

Ha, been watching Arizona / Davidson, Like the commentators said never seen this before Davidson player didn't just lose ONE shoe but lost both shoe's lmao

This Maui tournament has been wild. UNC-MSU 3rd place game I just caught the last minute of regulation which featured a 3 with 5 seconds left to go to OT and just a helter skelter OT where MSU pulled it out. UNC goes home with a 4-3 record with losses against very very good Auburn and MSU, and of course, us!

Auburn is really seeming to be scary good. But they almost lost to ISU. Tom Crean just said they're better than us. Of course he's a failed coach so he had to go on TV so take it with a grain of salt!

I can't get over UConn finishing up right now in the 7th place game. Gonna be a LONG plane ride back to wherever they fly to.

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@wissox Ya I heard that from Tommie , there are multiple ESPN people pushing Auburn should be the # 1 team in front of us. the Ol boy that pumps up all the sunshine of all SEC teams got his nose buried way to far up you know where , saying the same thing. It's ok rankings are nice for the fans to thump their chests about- - but we know only thing that really matters is who is left standing at the end of the year Right ? - -ROCK CHALK

I'm not going to laugh too loudly at UConn as the 2 time defending champ. Hurley is an amazing coach. His temper was well documented this week, but he certainly isn't the first coach with a temper and really until this week I didn't really know he had one.

Wow, what a week for UConn-3 consecutive losses. OUCH!

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Something to think about. Over the last 19 contests against- -- Duke - -N Carolina - -& Kentucky - -we are 16-3- -not to shabby

Anyone else watch the WV-Louisville game? Our old friend Joe Yesufu now plays for the mountaineers. He played a little….5 minutes and collected 4 fouls

@kjayhawks Couldn't watch but saw my other old friend Chucky Hepburn went off for 32 for Luisville.

Marcus Adams is playing for CSUN this year and has put up some points against non-P4 opponents. (Cal State Northridge)

@Gorilla72 He is only 35 miles from home.

Reaching the end of Feast Week, the SEC has clearly established itself at the strongest conference at this point. B12 at best 2nd, maybe 3rd behind the B10. B12 has a losing record against ranked teams. SEC is 11-5. 7 undefeated teams. Have won almost of the matchups with B12. Hawks will stay #1 after beating Duke, but Auburn has been the most dominant team thus far, with an even more impressive slate of wins - UNC, Iowa St., Houston and Memphis.

@DCHawker Florida has looked pretty salty so far too. They had a 27-0 run during their 37 point win over previously undefeated Wichita St. today and have won every game by double digits so far including a 13 point win over a solid FSU team.

Oklahoma is also looking good so far this season as they're currently up on Louisville in the championship game of the Battle 4 Atlantis.

One team letting down the B12 is Arizona. They've lost 4 of 5, mostly to 0n the fringe of ranked type teams. Duke is their best loss while strangely their loss to WVU today is considered non conference as I'm sure it was scheduled long before they dreamed they'd be in the same league.

@wissox

Lost 4 of their top 6 guys from a year ago. With Caleb Love your main dude your going to have a hard time being consistent. Their talent is just down from previous years from what I've seen so far.

Lady Jayhawks won their tourney, beat auburn by 1

Oregon surprising Bama yesterday and Houston loses in an upset of sorts finishing 4th in their tournament, yikes. Future opponent Creighton avoids UCONNs fate by winning the 7th place game in the same tournament.

Lot's of good games coming up this week. The B12/BigEast challenge starts. BIG starts league play this week with mid week games the next two weeks. ACC/SEC challenge takes place this week. BAMA/UNC and Auburn/Duke are the headliners on Wednesday.

@wissox Creighton have some injuries?

You'll need 3 TVs Wednesday night. Besides KU @ Creighton at 7:30 on FS1, watch Baylor @ UConn at 5:30 on FS1(sure to go into OT to delay seeing our game), Alabama @ NC at 6:15 on ESPN, then at 7:00 Marquette @ Iowa St, broadcast unknown and at 8:15 on ESPN2 Auburn @ Duke. This reminds me of the NCAA Tournament. Too many great games to watch.

@stoptheflop Thanks for filling in the blanks with the games Wednesday. Somehow I missed Baylor-UConn and ISU-Marquette. Wow, what a day.

@Crimsonorblue22 I haven't heard they have injuries, but don't know for sure.

Creighton was missing their starting point guard, Steven Ashworth. He was back Saturday vs ND and played 36 minutes.

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Too many teams in the main conferences leads to not enough TV channels to show all the league games shoving more and more games to ESPN+, peacock, etc. So tomorrows headliner game between Iowa St and Marquette, #5 v. #6 is on ESPN+.

League getting embarrassed so far tonight.

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League getting embarrassed so far tonight.

Alas, it's not just tonight. Sadly, the B12 has WAY under-performed rankings and expectations through this week. Tonight, it's not just a ranked (shouldn't have been) Cincinnati team losing to 5-4 Villanova. Or BYU down big to Providence at half. Or ASU down to San Diego (NOT San Diego State).

Arizona has 4 losses; Houston 3. KU is the only undefeated team. The B12 has a loosing record against ranked teams. I'm not a fan of the SEC, but it is 11-6 against AP ranked teams.

The B12 has been the strongest conference top to bottom the past several years - that isn't the case this year...

@DCHawker "KU is the only undefeated team". That's all that really matters!

The SEC certainly looks like the best conference right now.

By a mile……Auburn is crazy athletic and Pope oddly has UK much better than I expected

Bama is always a tough out as well

I will take a weaker Big-12 if that's what ends up being. The amount of difficulty it's been the last 2/3 years was due to regress to some extent at some point.

But just look at KU's league schedule. There's no way teams are not coming with their super bowl efforts when KU comes to town. 10 road league games.

SEC steamrolled ACC - 9-1 in those matchups last night...

@BeddieKU23 Agree with you 100 % . I have said many times in the past no matter who we play for the most part and I speak mainly about middle of the pack to low in our Conference when we come the place is going to be rockin. Other Schools always come up with ways to fill the joint-- Black outs -White outs , some kind of specials for their fans when we come. -- Pump the volume up , , same way for Non Con average teams - -that's because for a lot of these teams we ARE their NCAA Championship game , THE game of the year to them. When they play other Schools their place a lot of times is half full , and dead as a door nail sound wise , excitement wise , you can't figure out if your at a College Basketball game or, a badminton match with a bunch of ol ladies sipping tea and eating crumpets

You tell me if we are not their game of the year then why IF they should they pull the upset - - why do they storm the Court ? -- Hell we have seen seen other good tems fans rush the floor after they should happen to beat us.

One thing I don't get is and announcers have said this , if they beat us or about to, the fans start chanting OVER RATED- -why would you do that All your doing is taking away from your win because , if we are over rated then your not beating a good of team as you thought -- just WOW- - act like you belong.- - -Sorry turned this into a NOVEL response but yes Agree 100 %- - ROCK CHALK

SEC this year in Basket Ball is going to be a tough out

ugh. I hope that doesn't hold up late in the season... But Auburn sure looks legit.

Waiting for that UConn state of the program from @kuballin10

Hurley not Jesus himself???? Clingan and Newton merchant??????

Silence is golden!

I truly can not believe how bad UConn is. Baylor is also bad.

KU has huge 🎯 on our back!

Alabama spanking UNC in the dean dome

The only drama in this one is will it be done by 7:30 so we can watch our game uninterrupted?

@wissox

Lucky ours is on FSI

It's really hard to get a whistle in Storrs I imagine, especially after Mt. Hurley erupted last week and they need a win in the worst kind of way.

@BeddieKU23 I'm watching this game on FS1

@BShark My had my bad I should have responded sooner!

There is only one Christ so definitely not

He is a total dbag and he was already prideful but man now he’s unbearable

Let’s see what he does in March with his scheme but if he can’t elevate a top 25 roster (not top 10) then it definitely changes

Would love if we book end there titles with 22 and 25 then we go back to back with 25&26!

ISU off to a good start against Shakas boys. Unbelievably it's on ESPN+

Roach concussed.

Baylor better pick it up

Zuby and St. John just spanked the Mildcats in NY

Zuby highly motivated!

Periodic reminder Shaka is an enormous douche

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Zuby highly motivated!

Has turned into such a beast. Low key may be better than Hunter…

@Crimsonorblue22 Zuby is the one I'm most disappointed in losing in recent years. Many thought I was crazy saying I would rather have had Zuby over Udeh, but Zuby to me always had the higher ceiling because of his defense. With some range in his game now too, Zuby has become the more versatile player overall from Udeh as well.

@Texas-Hawk-10 kudos. You were correct.

Sometimes they just need time!

Uk and zags would mop the floor with us in any neutral site game…..both are hyper athletic

The issue completely is Bill getting away from 4 guards to go back to 2 bigs. Running your offense through a back to the basket big is so inefficient and proven in 2024 statistically.

4 guards = better ball handlers = less turnovers and better offense/shots

Bill acting like if he sat kj we’d sacrifice rebounding while he already doesn’t rebound and the lack of 4 guards inhibits us scoring is the season ender with this crap

The same issues last year that cause ANOTHER round of 32 BLOWOUT will take place yet again if we face an athletic team

@kuballin10 All I'm gonna say on this is - -Ku isn't turning the ball over very often-- -under 10 turnovers is pretty good actually taking care of the ball. - -That is all

I don't think they look very good.

@SlimShaddy54 It could be better playing 4 guards

Our best team per metrics is flory and kj and it isn’t until the 5th or 6th lineup that Hunter’s name is even in the 5 guys on the floor

Zags r lookin better!

This g teams are both really skilled and well coached. Athletic? Meh. If these guys were really good athletes they wouldn’t still be old and in college.

Bonus basketball!

These guys sky for rebounds the play above the rim is something we don’t watch with KU games…..

A lob to storr once in a blue moon

These guys have what 3-4 guys 6-8 and up just crazy

Jaxson would be a great 4

Graham Ike a stud 5 id taken over Hunter

Brea is a ridiculous shooter

Battle’s a baller who can get his own shot

All those guys listed can

Self whiffed on all these guys - if he doesn’t let Kobe Bryant 2.0 (DarrynPeterson) do his thing offensively I might actually send another message through a buddy to him

@FarmerJayhawk You are blind

Second round Bill Self special incoming!!!!

@kuballin10 NBA teams were salivating so hard over all these guys they told them to go back to school. Like I said, they’re really skilled and run good stuff but there aren’t many NBA athletes out there.

@FarmerJayhawk They’d smoke our squad with zero nba players who all received the same info

Pope built this squad overnight and only brought Robinson…then worked with other transfers from different schools

They look light years better and more aggressive than us right now

Self’s eye for true talent and what’s most important has always struggled

If you need 3 years in his system he won’t succeed in the portal era

He’s gonna retire early

@kuballin10 doubtful. As usual, your complaints have been registered. Bill can’t coach, can’t recruit, game has passed him by, etc. etc.

@FarmerJayhawk Man with Remy he’s just changed everyone’s thinking

If he goes what 5/6 with second round blowouts with the 1 lucky title in the middle not sure anyone even has a clue in Lawrence what they are watching

@kuballin10 we have 3 really good wins, 2 of which are away from AFH. Our one loss was without a key player in Rylan. Not sure how folks are making such dire predictions when we’re 1/4 through the regular season and roles are still evolving. I’m looking forward to an ass beating tomorrow in the Border War.

@kuballin10 At this point your not getting any argument from me about Hunter , for his size hght and bulk he is not playing up to what should be his capability.

One more time , he is big slow white boy who can't jump worth a dam, he wants to wander out acting like he is some three point specialist , who except from the beginning of last yr when he made quite a few- - ever since he hasn't shot squat from there, if he isn't knocking down three's he is further pulling away from what he should be doing REBOUNDING OFFENSIVE REBOUNDS I would hate to see his offensive rebounding numbers, Plus a guy his size is no reason why he doesn't establish position better and finish more. Proof of his explosion I have seen on multiple occasions now where he has had a dunk block by a rim - - -what the hell , he has no explosion.

Sure Hunter does well against the Washburn's, the YMCA's , the little lower schools, once again we see how he does against similar talent, Exhibit A - - FOUR POINTS and sic rebounds- - -Seriously ? This is another reason Hunter is not in the NBA Now , Hunte more likely then not won't be in the NBA , again being to slow NBA Bigs will eat him alive. - -Can you image him trying to match up with the likes of Karl Anthony Towns ?- -or Dokic ? Lord have mercy.-- -to , to slow. He will have some nights but he is not anything special by any means , huge liability on defense. Can you imagine the difference between him and Flory give him a couple more years of development. Flory much , much more fluid /Athletic

@SlimShaddy54 How’s those turnovers looking today?

Over a 30 game season 4 guards >>>> trumps the two bigs

@FarmerJayhawk We getting our arse beat big dog

2 good wins away from afh - ur crazy. Msu sucks

Game hasn’t passed Bill by but he values things from the 1990’s

Explain this….

Hunter - slow 5 he has hedging 30 feet from the bucket giving up alley oops for TWO YEARS

6-5 power forward who can’t shoot outside 5 feet but one handed shot puts and OH HE CANT REBOUND

A pass first pg with the two a listed above

His roster construction and judge of specific values in players that impact games is saaawwwfffttt

Proof you ask??!!?!!! The proof is in our 3-10 road record these last 13 games going to last year

Watching Iowa St - - Iowa , even though Iowa State right now down by eight- - - they still look good , just Iowa hitting everyhing it throws up. Iowa solid, well for now anyways - -5-6 from the three

Another thing I'm seeing is , looks like Iowa St is thick- - -big - -solid/ loves to be physical , just all over you defensively also

Now maybe Drake really is good, but k stale lost to them last night on a buzzer beater. The mildcats had to come back from 29-9 to tie it.

There's this terrific highlight! Watch til end, beginning is poor quality.

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Ben’s a stud coach….see if he can recruit though

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How is this real lmao

Xavier giving U Conn everything you want on U Conn home floor- -78-78 Overtime starting - -22 lead changes great game

OU remains undefeated with an improbable win over Michigan. OU was down 3, Jeremiah Fears hit a deep 3 with 11 seconds left and was fouled on the shot and hit the FT to win it after Michigan missed a couple of attempts to win it.

Our favorite punching bag pants on backwards really embarrassed himself. Called D-2 Michigan Tech “nobody-U” before playing them and then got whooped by 20. His team is now 2-10. MTech is in the wonderful twin cities of Houghton Hancock in the Keweenaw Peninsula. Copper country. Hockey school that plays it really well in D-1.

I've been enjoying this year of college basketball... even with all the weird changes in the game. It seemed like the transfer portal would destroy the competitiveness of the game but there are plenty of upsets. I know a lot of people are still miffed over Jayhawk basketball dropping a couple against unranked opponents. Then I look at our sister school, UNC... 6-5 and still hasn't beat a ranked team.

The B12 has been the top conference top to bottom the past few years, but not this one:

"The SEC is 42–2 as a conference over the past 13 days with wins over Kansas, Gonzaga, Purdue, Illinois, North Carolina, Clemson, Ohio State, Louisville, Creighton, Arizona State and Michigan (twice). I know some of you might be tired of hearing it, but we really are watching arguably the most impressive non-league performance by a conference in the history of college basketball.

Current SEC record: 157-20.

Every other power conference has at least twice as many losses. No other power conference is within 11 victories. The SEC's top-ranked KenPom.com rating is up to +20.01, which is 3.20 points higher than the second-best league (Big 12). As longtime researcher Jared Berson noted, the SEC is now an incredible 19-8 in nonconference games against teams ranked in the Associated Press Top 25 poll."

Unprecedented dominance...

@DCHawker , they doing ok this year- -but like the phrase I heard in this movie and works well for the SEC this year, The way you got to look at it is The moon even has to shine on a dog's ass SOMETIME lmao

Dayton has some impressive results so far, but tonight League foe Cincy has held them to 2 baskets in the first 14 minutes. 18-8 with 6 minutes left had me checking to see if I was actually looking at a football score.

@DCHawker I hate the SEC

@bskeet me too. Auburn/purdue tomorrow and Kentucky/buckeyes among the other big games of the day.

Zuby hits the game winner for St Johns

@wissox Mercy he has turned out to be a good player for sure-- wish he would of stayed

Zuby is one that got away, needed more court time-- -now we see why, really posting some good numbers would of taken for sure. --- -St John's 10-2-- Zuby 2nd leading scorer for them-- averaging 14.6 per game-- right at 8 rebounds a game -2.3 blocks per game -- and shooting 58 % from the field- - yes he has or averages 2.2 turnovers per contest- -but I could live with that with what he contributes.- -I think the good out weighs the bad for sure , glad he is doing well.

Nice win (up 14 with 2:30 left) for the Buckeyes over Kentucky. Glad to see.

Cats lose to Wichita state. 6-5 start. Tang experiment is looking like it is going to end this season if I were to guess.

Ok I'm going to try and say this nicely so some here won't think I'm to hard on K/State- - --THEY SUCK- - -ooops wait sorry.

Seriously though they have some real issues, look just look disorganized , I know this much for sure Coleman Hawkins right now anyways looks like a walking disaster. -- His decision making, more then ever his shot selection , some of his shots , you think Coach Self is had on AJ /Rylan -- psssst if Hawkins was on the KU roster and was taking some of the shots he is taking for K/State ? - -his ass would be on the bench and he would never see daylight again. - -I mean just some horrific shots. Bottom line they have issues, sure don't think they are getting their money from Hawkins.

OK I said I'd try to be nice- - I will say this it looks to me they do have a good player, name of Rich. Kid I guess hasn't played a lot but came of the bench and played well , got extended playing time , scored twenty for K/State. Out played everyone else for K/State that's for sure. Hit a couple of Three's - -got rebounds- - couple of flushes ,some nice finish- -kid gonna be ok I think

Kansas State college of delusional fandoms lost to UMKC and Wichita. Back to back. Octagon of stupid out there in Manhattan.

Still laughing they gave a kid (Hawkins) over 2 Million to come there. Dude averaged 12 points a game last season. You know they’ll bring their a game against us and play the best game of the year.

@wissox according to some, KSU is about as bad as a college basketball team can possibly be. Which is why they will probably beat us. Both games. Plus the Big 12 Tournament. Just sayin.

They will play their best game of the season against us in Manhattan.

Compared to Bruce Weber, I really like Jerome Tang. He has tried to bring down the hatred and hostility that KState fans exhibit toward KU. Rivalry is great and should be fun. Rational humans should be able to draw the line between team support and hatred for another school during sporting events. I like it when KState has a strong basketball team.

Better hold onto your butts- -they are at Def-Con 5 down the interstate , at the craphouse in the street.- -they as fans are ready to lynch the players, the Coach's- saying they invested all this NIL money, being told to expect parades , championships etc , etc- - -they say around 5 million payout total- -Lordy have Mercy it's a dark Sunday in CrapHattan

It appears the purple kitties have a severe case of blue balls. They are both impotent and have been kicked in the balls. Tang’s approach of bringing spirituality to a farm school may not have panned out. They need more than prayer now… more like an exorcism. Looking like they may remain a revolving door school for coaches.

@stoptheflop I like when K-State has a strong livestock judging team.

@drgnslayr He should of left for the UK job when the going was good lol - - -Oh wait was that Tang or Drew that UK was so inteested in-- Quality Coach's are so had to separate

@nuleafjhawk

I’ve never fully understood the term “animal husbandry” and that doesn’t bother me.

And so it begins, Big 12 action gets started tonight.- --( KSU / Cinn ) @ 6:00-- -- - Houston & Okla St - -& Iowa State & Colorado I think @ 8:00 guess I know what I'm gonna be doing lol

@drgnslayr apparently to husband meant to manage carefully, particularly an estate, and expanded to include animals and crops. Wife meant woman.

I now pronounce you manager of the estate and woman.

How romantic.

two ranked teams in the big twelve on the road - - two ranked teams in trouble right now on the road K/State up 5 over Cincinnati with nine minutes to go. -- -Houston in a dog fight with Oklahoma St

Oklahoma St different offense this year, run - - -run - -and run some more. Announcers saying their whole tempo is to get a shot up within the first ten seconds of a possession -run , run , run , pretty quick.

Houston closes the 1st half on a 17-1 run - -Oklahoma State closes on a five minute scoring drought geez

Tad's team looking shaky! Isu not great. Co missing a starter, sick.

Co, up. Fun game, forgot Danny was there, duh!

Offensive boards killed CO. Good shooters.

Bizarre ending in State College. Northwestern ties game on a layup that was blocked and then tipped in by another NU player. Refs review it and say sorry, our bad it wasn't a goal tend but since we called it, it's a deadball and the tip in doesn't count. Refs totally screw up denying the tie opportunity.

@wissox I’m gathering they called goal tending. At which point the ball is dead. Bummer about the bad whistle. I hate that on run outs too.

@dylans you are correct. But the whistle did t really sound until the putback was being shot

Sitting high up in the kohl center for badgers suckeyes

Mercy think I just saw the dunk of the Season from any team , any player. - -Cortes from Wichita St flies down court throws the ball up , it goes behind Ballard- - - shows him reach back and grabs it full extension behind him grabs it and flush's He got up -Mercy- -the announcers said if that's not the # 1 dunk on sports center-- have to agree , that was sweet.

Badgers 20-30 on 3s Fran’s defense sucks

@SlimShaddy54 I’ll be honest with you, I think WSU would beat the brakes off of us. They just play so much harder than we do most of the time. I only watched a few of their games but guys are actually hustling after the ball and down the floor. We haven’t done that since the Dook game.

I havent watched Alabama this year but Grant Nelson and Lebaron Philon look pretty good statistically.

Watching UK-UF. A lot of athleticism. Multiple players on each team who can create and attack the rim. And 3pts shooters everywhere...

WV up at the half over Oklahoma St- - -46-19

@DCHawker
We'd get pasted by both of them currently

Refreshing to be able to watch a couple of teams play fluid /free.- -add Iowa St & Baylor both smoking us also at this point. ??Dreading having to play ISU they will smoke us

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Watching UK-UF. A lot of athleticism. Multiple players on each team who can create and attack the rim. And 3pts shooters everywhere...

I’m not sure whom is scouting athleticism for us but they need to be relieved of their duties about 3 years ago. Everyone in our conference is more athletic than us

I’m watching ISU-Baylor and ISU will beat us by a minimum of 25 in Hilton they are my pick to win this conference at the moment

Oh wow, this is so bad. Never been too impressed with Rick Pitino who now instructs his team not to shake hands after the game. Maybe it was a good idea after this happened:

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@wissox Rick Pitino, O.G Turd.

@kjayhawks We are going to have a lot of blowouts on the road....not in our favor

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I havent watched Alabama this year but Grant Nelson and Lebaron Philon look pretty good statistically.

Studs but Grant couldn't come here because Self promised KJ the 4 spot (right after he played the 5 for us)......and lol NO WAY IN HECK Philon was getting the keys over Juan even though NBA >>>>d2

Bill's favorites >>>>recruiting better players to win

Kinda nervous guys, we have a huge stretch comin gup- - 3 game stretch- -Arizona St- - -Cincinnati - -& Iowa State-- got to get two out of the three at least - -no easy one's that's for sure

Lots of good games to watch tonight. --- Georgia up 13 on Kentucky at the Half. - -Arizona handling WV at Wv by 11 I think at half

Florida just curb stomping 3 1 Tennessee at the half 34-15 -- - -Fifth teen holy smokes

Golden would be a nice replacement for Self when the time comes if he wasn’t a total creep (allegedly).

@SlimShaddy54 Wow!

Jumpin Gees KSU down 43- -24 at the half to Okie St. - -Arizona taking it to WV by 19 with like 5 minutes to go- Baylor up by 16 heading into half with Cincinnati

Holy crap. Tennessee down to Florida 64-33 with 4:38 to go in the game - - what the hell. - -Kentucky down 12 to Georgia with 7 minutes to go- -look out

@kuballin10 I had no idea Self promised KJ the 4 spot over Grant Nelson. Out of curiosity, do you have a source?

Tennessee might not score 40.

Kentucky just elbows a rebounder to the floor.

No court storming in Florida. Nice job Florida fans.

Flordia beats Tennessee by 30- - - 73-43- - -Kentucky down by 13 with 4:21

Iowa St gonna move up to # 2 probably now Edit : Kentucky goes down to Georgia 82-69

Arizona takes out WV by 19

@Jhawk69 Yes, Bill loves kj and thinks he impacts games as much as ochai.

After the 2023 season, with kj tired of playing the 5 and playing dudes bigger than him he was pumped to have Hunter commit.

We had chances at Nelson and Ingram to bring in but neither were promised to play over kj. Bill had already decided that’s his guy and who he wanted. Ingram’s Uncle is the source and Nelson source is a good friend who played baseball at Bama. He’s tight with two bama assistants (basketball team) and attends a closed practice or two early on every year plus a few home games.

Also easy to follow from 247, discord, guys like farmer or bshark here but they are fed the staff KU perspective so you gotta keep that in mind. 2 sides to every story.

Same with Philon who had we given him the pg spot would have thought more heavily about it but playing backup pg minutes and not even a real shot at the 2 spot just helped start the discussions of getting outta southern missourah and back home. Home cooking is the best so I can’t blame him but more PT 100% would have made him really think about it. He loved KU…. A legit nba pg prospect but we can’t ever not start Juan at pg as long as he is here (Bill’s infallible)!

Nelson would have been a freak but he ain’t a 5 and we had Hunter so he’d been a 4 and wasn’t guaranteed a starting spot because we had someone there Bill already liked.

Turning away those two in favor of kj was typical Bill roster construction valuing guys that aren’t the best players.

Graham Ike, Nelson, Walter Clayton, Harrison Ingram…..lots of guys who had interest in us but PT writing was on the wall on Self’s loyalty. This is known in aau circles as well - nothing earth shattering here

@kuballin10 But is there a concrete, tangible source that I could access to confirm this?

@kuballin10 Philon didn't decommit because of Harris, he decommitted because of Elmarko. If being a starting PG was his top priority, then he wouldn't have chosen Alabama to play at. Just like for whatever reason you think Harris is why LJ Cryer never came to KU despite Cryer also never being a PG and being the perfect compliment to play next to Harris.

@Jhawk69 Sure bud

billself@ku.edu for starters

Dm on Twitter or Instagram Harrison and Nelson yourself

You want the info you gotta put in the work

lil guy here’s like - “hey out who you know - give me their cell and let me ring them up - if you can’t show me than I don’t believe it”

Str8 dopin with this lame @$$

@Texas-Hawk-10 LJ wanted to play point - does his own words work or you still going to just act like I make stuff up and be all high, mighty and wrong?

He wanted minutes at the pg and Juan playing 38 a game wouldn’t work. Oh but Self could let him slide to the 1 some…yeah right that’s diggy and moore not Mayo who’s game Cryer’s is similar too.

Kansas is his dream school but we pass cause I’m sure in Bill’s mind he couldn’t handle it well enough to be a pg and he didn’t defend real well (granted the guys we had defended so well - sarcasm).

Ultimately went to Houston to play with his friend and was a lot more successful than he’d been here

https://www.heartlandcollegesports.com/2023/04/05/baylor-guard-lj-cryer-looking-for-a-fresh-start/ ↗

Also - Philon wanted minutes and my post was if we’d offered him starter minutes at pg or at the 2 (somehow elmarko’s stellar play had him locked in there - again staff sucks at evaluating talent even with a full year of tape) we’d had a way better chance against momma’s home cookin

@Jhawk69 Here let’s make this real easy to understand with zero sources required

The current best nba prospect on our roster doesn’t start and plays 13 minutes a game. You’d say well he fouls or oh he’s a freshman but has he fouled out of any meaningful games yet?

That guy with just the eye test but let alone the tape AND analytics (the tri fecta) say he should be our starting 4 but yet HE’S not. Why?????(please answer)

Now take 2 guys that are upper classmen and are trying to make the league. They aren’t freshmen and wherever they transfer too they need big minutes and can’t afford to sit behind a guy they are both better than per the nba scouts and only play 13-20 mpg. They “can compete for their spot at the 4” but it isn’t guaranteed to the new guys. They can see the roster, see the comments about said current starter and read the room. No way you’d risk your final year or two playing behind a guy that the current coach gushes over and loves (and promises 4 man spot too and no more 5 man) versus another flagship school that will give you 30-35 mpg starting

I’d like to see I can’t rebound Kj at the 5 like we ran back in 2023. Run Shak, Moore, Rylan, Aj or Juan and Kj at the 5. Bill raves about him being draymond green like yet has NEVER put him back at the 5 season that season. Hence the promise he’d made and to let kj play the 4. His loyalty is something else I mean being Bill’s favorite guy has gotta he some sorta feelin! 😍

@kuballin10 “I do not want to play point guard full time" Are those the words you're referring to because they don't match with what you keep claiming about Cryer.

Bill Self didn’t chose Harris over Cryer, he chose Elmarko Jackson over Cryer.

@Texas-Hawk-10

If that’s the case that was another poor roster decision based on Elmarko’s performance freshman year. I’m surprised freshman vs upper classman he went frosh

Self didn’t have the choice though because LJ knew he wouldn’t even get “some” minutes at pg here - Bill wasn’t going to do it and the current pg played 36-38 minutes a game and 1-3 minutes isn’t “some pg”.

If you watched Houston be played pg every time Shead (his buddy) was out. Shead played 31-32 mpg (average) while Juan was 34-35 mpg average (only because blowouts he sat). When Juan didn’t play pg it was only 1-2 minutes because in Self’s mind he didn’t have anyone that could even really spot him minutes. Remember the “I’d like to get Juan some rest but I can’t”. Well LJ or not that wouldn’t have convinced him to let him play some minutes at pg

Quote you conveniently didn’t mention

“I am looking to see what school will let me play some time at point guard. I realize I am lethal off the ball and I do not want to take that out of my game because I know it is one of my strengths that can help a team win. I know to get to that next level, I will have to be able to showcase what I can do on the ball.”

WV losing by 19 at home to AZ sure makes me wonder how KU was behind the entire WV game and lost by 1 pt.

Kstate the worst team in the league?

@kuballin10 Bill Self never wanted to play DaJuan 36-38 minutes per game. He has said multiple times that he needs to play 28-30 so he can be more effective and less worn down.

@Jhawk69 He’s said that no denying it!

His actions are he hasn’t done it though and played Juan a ton of minutes going on 3 years now and his excuse is he doesn’t trust guys behind Juan (that plus his lack of recruiting). He very much views Juan as irreplaceable and no one can do half the job he can even in spot minutes….

DaJuan only averages 30 mpg this year. Last year Bill did play DaJuan 38 mpg, largely because he did not trust Elmarko. I do not think we would have been any better had DaJuan played 8 fewer minutes and Elmarko 8 minutes more last year but I could be wrong.

@Jhawk69 said in Other games 2024-2025:

DaJuan only averages 30 mpg this year. Last year Bill did play DaJuan 38 mpg, largely because he did not trust Elmarko. I do not think we would have been any better had DaJuan played 8 fewer minutes and Elmarko 8 minutes more last year but I could be wrong.

Yep. He averaged 29 the year with Remy and I think we are trending back to that if Shak keeps playing well.

@stoptheflop West Virginia has been an enigma. They have a win against Arizona and Gonzaga. Both were in the Bahamas with the blue light backdrop. But they also lost to Louisville while there and have a bad loss to Pittsburgh, which is decent but WV lost to them by a bunch.

Strange as it sounds WVU's win against Zona was a non league game because it was in the tournament that was arranged before all of the conference realignment bull crap that's happened.

@wissox then Wv turned around and lost to Arizona last night in league when it really matters

Good ending down in Lubbock

Didn't Jefferson drag his foot on that final shot for a travel ?

Anderson, FR, for Tx Tech is making some hard shots in OT.

ISU survived in OT as Tech missed a runner to win it.

Tech had it won in regulation but couldn't knock down their free throws.

Making the Tech kids pose for pics with “guns up” after a loss looks like “taking the L” instead

Iowa St is good -- period. They did what good teams do , they find ways to win games on the road like this, don't lose their poise, they are good

FTs killed Tech

Huge game coming up, Cats fighting to remain above .500 against Houston :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

Good grief, the Ark/Fla game is never going to end. Tex/Tenn is 10 min into their 5:00 game while the 3:00 game just won't end.

Iowa State seems to be legit

@BShark said in Other games 2024-2025:

Huge game coming up, Cats fighting to remain above .500 against Houston :rolling_on_the_floor_laughing:

Well that’s not going great

@FarmerJayhawk @BShark was hoping the Mildcats could at least give them a game. That is one of the worst teams in Manhattan since the early 00s and Woolridge was there.

@kjayhawks said in Other games 2024-2025:

@FarmerJayhawk @BShark was hoping the Mildcats could at least give them a game. That is one of the worst teams in Manhattan since the early 00s and Woolridge was there.

Brooth had some heinous teams too.

@AsadZ but beatable

@FarmerJayhawk seriously?

@Crimsonorblue22 yeah Houston only won by 30 😂

ISU assistant coaches act as offensive and defensive coordinators.

During timeouts, HC goes behind and these assistant coaches call out plays.

I have never seen this in CBB.

Love the way Tang addresses the media in post game. - -The last two times now - -like he is asked a question and the first time it was
; - What re-occurring problem bothers you the most about this team ? -- His response - - I'm not going to answer that question.- - For last nights game he was asked- - Was the any thought about playing Buddy Rich ?- -His response - - -I'm not going to answer that question - -Roflmao - I see now how it works - -if they get to close to hitting THAT NERVE let's just play like it was never asak lol , now I get it

It looks like there is about 300 people at the Octagon of Dumb tonight for KSU and Tech.

Holy cow did anyone else see that dam circus with Texas Tech / KSU ?- - I swear to GOD Texas Tech did everything in their power to lose that game in the last six minutes It looked like- -turnover after turnover after turnover, Stand out at the top of the key dribble, dribble , dribble and throw up some prayer if they got a shot without throwing it away

Seriously pathetic showing of a game that last stretch- - K ? State is really sad and yet Tech tied to hand them this game.

Yep. Wonder how many to's total? Ugly game. If TT gave isu a game....

TT 14 ksu 10

I would say the last six minutes of that game it was like neither team wanted to win. - -I've never watched a team melt down during that time like Tech did, only to be matched by K/State. I mean during that time Tech came down and some of their passes was incredibly stupid -- like where the hell you throwing that - -then K/State would come down and do the same thing or just throw up some ridiculous shot just stupid.-- There is a reason they are now 6-8

Michigan is pretty darn good there and Minnesota is pretty darn bad. Of course last night the ground squirrels make a 40 footer in OT to beat Michigan.

Ranked teams to lose today so far.

6 Tennessee by 1 to Vandy on the road.

8 Kentucky at home lost in an NBA game 102-97

14 Uconn at home by 5 against Creighton.

Georgia and Oregon both lost to ranked teams by 2 and 7

Iowa St going downnnnn

@BeddieKU23 said in Other games 2024-2025:

Iowa St going downnnnn

Really just hate to see it

ISU loses to WVU. Houston pulls one out by one.

@BShark 😥

ISU and Zona losing helps us a lot in the league race

@FarmerJayhawk said in Other games 2024-2025:

ISU and Zona losing helps us a lot in the league race

UCF could have done us a solid as well..close

@FarmerJayhawk said in Other games 2024-2025:

ISU and Zona losing helps us a lot in the league race

Would have been nice if UCF beat Houston. They should have.

My kingdom for a Jevon Smalls, kid is a flat out baller, seen him multiple times , kid is un-real. We sure could use a player like him

Dam TCU in good spot to beat Baylor @ Baylor up three with twenty seven seconds to go.

Udeh huge Game -- - Sixteen points - - & fifteen rebounds- - three blocks.

Welp Baylor just tied, doesn't take away from Udeh's game

TCU WINS @ Baylor

Watching some of the Tenn/Kentucky game. The Tennessee crowd is absolutely dead; they look like they are watching a movie. Weird. But, the Tenn coaches are just as lifeless.

Zuby with 13 and 9 (both tied for team high) in St. John's 25 point win (66-41) over Georgetown tonight.

Baylor and BYU in OT

@kjayhawks BYU beat Baylor. That's another team not understanding, they got the talent but just not really getting it done with any inconsistency , so look out Saturday probably blow us out

@SlimShaddy54 said in Other games 2024-2025:

@kjayhawks BYU beat Baylor. That's another team not understanding, they got the talent but just not really getting it done with any inconsistency , so look out Saturday probably blow us out

Baylor's dealing with injuries as well. They're currently missing Langston Love and Jeremy Roach.

@Texas-Hawk-10 that's very true, both them and us have had various problems effecting our Seasons. Should be interesting to see how it goes. got to avoid slow start. They have the one five star pretty darn good, can't type his name right so won't even try but you know who I'm talking about. -Need to pull this road win out.

@Texas-Hawk-10 day to day or out for awhile?

I know Roach has been out for some time.

Announcer praising Kelvin Sampson: “no matter what happens, his guys know he is in charge, and he used his timeouts properly to build the lead back up”.

Hm.

I sure wouldn't mind seeing Ark upset Kentucky tonight. Not that I'm a Calipari fan, but this would be an extra sweet Kentucky loss.

Omier vs Flory and Hunter. Hunter should be able to get his shots. If he is automatic from 5' - 7' he will get his 20+. Zeke can get to the rim for a couple and a couple from mid range, 4 FT makes plus two makes from three land. That's an easy 20+. I think Coit is getting his game all in one bag and shooting 37% from deep. Give the man some minutes. Rylan has a good feel for the game not just from three but he needs to get open looks. Nine or ten threes will get us a solid 70+ which will make Baylor vulnerable. Prediction KU 75 - 68.

@Zabudda said in Other games 2024-2025:

Omier vs Flory and Hunter. Hunter should be able to get his shots. If he is automatic from 5' - 7' he will get his 20+. Zeke can get to the rim for a couple and a couple from mid range, 4 FT makes plus two makes from three land. That's an easy 20+. I think Coit is getting his game all in one bag and shooting 37% from deep. Give the man some minutes. Rylan has a good feel for the game not just from three but he needs to get open looks. Nine or ten threes will get us a solid 70+ which will make Baylor vulnerable. Prediction KU 75 - 68.

Many thanks for your optimism. I need some of that at this point in the season, but can't seem to generate it myself.

@stoptheflop

You're welcome. you could say it's wishful thinking too. The game is always different than the plan. What I want to see is a really good effort so we can decide if we are the better team. Good teams get in position to close out games. We did that against Houston twice and and easy close outs at that. We avoided a big let down after that, UCF is a scoring machine and they hung around and we got away with it that time.

Why am I starting to get this sick feeling that K/State may just end up pulling the upset of the year at Hilton leading by nine. Ben leading most of the dam game. -- ISu players look dead right now -Hilton sounds like a morgue holy dog doo

ya K/State right now just blowing Iowa St right off their own floor- -K/State ! ! ! up 17

Up 14 at the under 8

@BeddieKU23 Gonna be really interesting next weekend when we go to Bramlege . Not even close to the team we played at the Phog

Neither is isu

Auburn is legit. Penciling them in as champs in my bracket for the time being.

@Crimsonorblue22 True

ISU has like the Nations 2nd most home court winning streak. looks like it's going down

This is where ISU gets it together.

Biggest reasons ISU lookin silly is usually only turn it over at ten per game- - they have seventeen so far today & --then at one point they were down 2nd chance points 19-1

Have we heard if Juan will play

ESPN News.

@stoptheflop said in Other games 2024-2025:

Have we heard if Juan will play

Yes he is

Flory is starting over KJ.

The end of college basketball games is so broken. How does it take 8 minutes into the KU game to finish the Auburn/Ole Miss game?

I never once imagined that Wisconsin could be ranked above KU this year but it might be the case this week. Illinois' meltdown is headscratching. Had one game where they were missing a starter but otherwise, they've struggled. could drop to 14-8 today but they are coming back on OSU right now.

Wow , Chris Beard has himself a team . Ol Miss just hung 54 points on Kentucky in the 1st half and leading 54-31

Kentucky looks totally lost , both on offense and defense- - I mean multiple times leaving laundry on the floor.

Goodness gracious.- -How bad is Arizona St ?--they jump all over KSU in the outset , up 15-0 and like 20-2---- -just keep clunking up 3 point attempts , think they have attempted 21 - - three point attempts and allowed KSU to gt back in the game. - - KSU now leads 35-32 at the half- - what a circus side show

Wisconsin led 24-4 against Indiana and coasted to their 21st in a row at home over Indiana. If you're young maybe that isn't too remarkable but if you remember IU basketball from way back it's startling. Sports illustrated is still a thing and picked UW 17th in the league and IU 2nd.

@wissox well we ain’t the only ones struggling to live up to preseason hype

@kjayhawks Not sure how much you pay attention but Indiana is overhyped every year much the same way Nebraska is in football or even ND. Strangely UNC is starting to fall into that same category.

Looking at the rankings and I see Duke 2nd in KenPom and of course you can't avoid Duke because they seem to be permanently enshrined on the main page of ESPN.com. But KenPom also shows the schedule strength and Dukes #'s are kind of weak for a top team. It's not a big news item to report that the ACC is horrible. Louisville is the 2nd team in Ken Pom in the league, 28th, barely ranked in the polls, but if you look at Louisville's schedule they have really zero quality wins. No ranked team wins except Indiana which is fraudulently ranked at the beginning of every season and Louisville beat them. By KenPom standards, Clemson is the 3rd team in the league and they have zero quality wins.

So at the end of the season when Duke finishes the league undefeated, which they probably will, Duke will be anointed as the big favorite, etc. etc. I'm not blind, I think they are a really decent team but hard to tell objectively because of that league they're in. I don't think they'd be undefeated in our league or the SEC. They did hand Auburn their only loss in Cameron.

The talk should be focused on Auburn because if the name on the shirt read read Duke, the media would be going nuts for what they've accomplished. I'm impressed by Auburn. To be unbeaten in that league is incredible. I know there's still some time to stumble, but they'll enter the dance as the prohibitive favorite.

@wissox all I thought I knew about the Dook hype train was confirmed in 2018. We had just beaten Dook in OT to go to the final four. Front page of ESPN on MBB after had nothing on the game except at the very bottom. The main headline was Coach K beats Calipari at his own game and was an article about the class they had coming in next year. Zero about how Kansas just beat them to go to a final four.

@kjayhawks exactly as i remember it. At the very least, espn should be aware that you typically read KU stuff and show it to you, while nefariously neglecting to show KU victory coverage to impartial audiences. Maybe they’ve corrected that. But i doubt it.

@wissox ya all ESPN does is talk , Flagg , Flagg , Flagg - -don't get me wrong , Cooper is special , no doubts about that- -BUY I mean ESPN come on , there other stories in basketball other then Cooper.

Was watching the game last night and shocked as they were talking about Flagg and guess who they said had done the best job at limiting Flagg , slowing him down ?----- -KJ Adams

@approxinfinity @kjayhawks 3 times in KU's glory years of later 80's and early 90s we played Duke in the FF. My go to back then, especially when not living at KU was USA Today. Same thing. In 91 we beat UNC in the semifinals and the focus was Dean and Duke.

Not a game per se, but Mike Woodson is out at Indy. Every fan on twitter is yelling for Chris Beard. IDK, heck of a coach but goodness character issues abound. I wouldn't want him for my team. I know the Texas thing was dropped, but still showed some lapses of judgment I think. Set me straight on him if I'm wrong.

Saw Zuby put the ball on the floor and take it to the rim in the second half against Sir Danny's team. Should have been an and one, but since he's over 6'5" and near the paint it's a standard no call. Second leading scorer on #10 St John.

Nice, Zuby with the put back dunk and one. I can't believe I find myself rooting for Pitino's team. But, they are playing Hurley's team, so there's that.

Dam I wish we could of held on to Zuby. - How's this for a stat line : - - -18 points- - - -9 rebounds--- -6 assists-- -- - & 3 blocks against Danny's boys - -U Conn

Hurley was his usual petulant self; at one point he as so far out on the court he picked up a St John player's shoe that had fallen off. I don't like coaches who constantly wander out on the court like Bruce Weber.

@stoptheflop ya I seen that, that way the ref came over by him so he could whine, cry, and bitch some more

Dam so I tuned in to watch some of the KSU/ASU game and right off the bat found out that- - -For some reason Coleman Hawkins wasn't playing today for K/State- -- & Freeman ASU leading Scorer and player has been kicked off the team WOW

Okie state beat isu

Baylor got beat by cin.

@Crimsonorblue22 ISU freefalling.

Man, I hate to say this , cause I can't stand them. Yet it sure looks to me that Duke should be the clear favorite to cut the nets down this year. They are just destroying anyone they are playing games aren't even close.

They are pretty dang good , and the thing is who you going to ry and shut down ? -Obvious one is Flagg, but go ahead and then the others go off-- doesn't look good for anyone else. there could be just haven't seen the consistency of any others.-- Auburn --MAYBE, - Maybe Alabama if they turned it into a track meet and they hit their three's- -other then that I dunno.

@SlimShaddy54 Knueppel is the best player on that team. Tough to stop.

@approxinfinity pick your poison their 5 guy is not joke-- --- - --- Knueppel -- -- -Flagg - -doesn't matter

Just saw that the Haskell womens coach got terminated because of DOGE actions. Maybe question this expense at the end of the season? But in season? Heartless.

UCF tried their best to give that game away against K/State , but ended up winning 80-76 -K/State on a four game losing streak

The Freshman for UCF Tiam pretty solid game -- 11 points - -10 rebounds- -& - --8 blocks

K-state won their national championship beating us at home and have packed the season in

@MR11 Kinda like we did after beating Duke

Hey now, we are nothing like KState. They only had a 2 week stretch of good play where we are a coinflip every night.

@wissox said in Other games 2024-2025:

Just saw that the Haskell womens coach got terminated because of DOGE actions. Maybe question this expense at the end of the season? But in season? Heartless.

Why was he a probationary employee since 2021? Something else is amiss too.

He did say he would finish the season out - unpaid :/

All I saw was let go mid season, nothing about probationary. Tweets rarely go into relevant facts!

@wissox I want to know why the hiring process is so messed up he was a probationary employee for 4! years. Not that anyone saw this coming, but it was avoidable and seems weird.

Lots of talk about St. Johns and now one East Coast SPN article saying could St. Johns be the 5th Big East champion of the century? I looked at their schedule. Underwhelming! 1-1 against top 25. They beat Creighton, that's it, and Creighton is no longer ranked. Doesn't sound like a champion to me.

Who else remembers the FT distraction at OU that was a 6ft gorilla behind the backboard and the head spun in a circle? I kind of miss those fan hijinks, but they made me mad during the game. What about the AZ or AZ St person behind the shower curtain. That was a good one. But I sure don't miss the insensitive antics that we saw in Manhattan and Columbia.

Izzo pulled an alltimer today. UW was off to a great start and Tonje had an And 1 called. Izzo started complaining and the refs took the 2 points off the board saying it was before the shot. Huge momentum swing as we didn't score and what would have been 16-4 remained at 13-4, they hit a 3 and suddenly we had ourselves a ballgame. Many big Izzo moments today. I like him as a coach still but refs really look over their shoulders at him if they know he's staring at them.

Some one take a look at St. Johns season and tell me what's wrong with saying it's not all that impressive.

Because it's my lunch break, got to watch what's on, and I just saw one of Coach Cal's brilliant players block a shot that came off the backboard awkwardly, a foot to the right of the goal, and bouncing away from the goal go up and swat it back at the backboard for the easiest goaltending call of all time.

The floor in KC is making my eyes bleed. NCAA has one of the best sports leagues out there and they go stupid with ridiculous paint jobs. I hope KU loses tonight so I don't have to watch another game of this tournament on that ugliness. Well not really.

From the NYTimes. This makes the floor even worse:

"As part of commissioner Brett Yormark’s mission to “intersect sports and culture,” the Big 12 teamed with clothing brand Undefeated, which has five tally marks as its logo, to design the floor for its men’s and women’s tournaments at T-Mobile Center. Sticking with that theme, the Big 12, which uses Roman numerals for its logo, plastered XII(s) all over the floor in a style resembling a Magic Eye illusion." Yormark losing points by the dozens in the court of public opinion with the way he's ruining our conference.

Iowa St COULD be in real trouble today with BYU. Lipsey is hurting with a Groin issue , shoulder issue , thumb issue - -& Gilbert still dealing with a groin issue, not saying whether they playing-- playing limited or what- - Gibert sounds less likely again not playing or playing much

BYU looking good early. Iowa State defense causing disruptions but BYU lights out from three and it feels sustainable at this point

Oops, Cooper Flagg rolled ankle. Time to eliminate conference tournaments.

WOW , fools Gold ?--- -Fools Gold ? ? - -Iowa State-- -TEN made three point made- - -BYU-- TEN Three point made-- mercy these two teams look really good . Iowa St- -up-- 53-49 at the HALF- -really fun to watch - Curtis Jones Iowa St in the first half with Twenty Two points

BYU takes ISU down

Defense in KC? never heard of her 😀

@Zabudda

Not surprised. BYU is perhaps the hottest team in America having won 9 straight and 13 of their last 15 dating back to February 8th. Very dangerous team heading into March if they continue to run the table.

Duke's savior left their game today with an ankle injury and did not return (Flagg).

@BeddieKU23 Your right very dangerous. You just can't key your defense on one -if you had to I would have to say it would have to be Saunders , but you just can't. They play that five out . really spread the floor and not afraid to pull a quick three from anywhere,
Made-Eighteen threes. No way would I want to see them in the NCAA's

18 threes and no one made more than 3! That’s so hard to guard. They’ve been super hot lately. The blowout over us is just the tip of the iceberg for big wins they’ve had.

Colorado staying right with Houston down 5 at the half

North Carolina won a battle with Wake Forest to basically knock Wake out of the tournament.

Elijah Hawkins “I always tell myself, I’ve been here before. I’m a dawg.”

I half dread and half gravitate toward every opportunity to listen to Jon Scheyer talk. It never fails to amaze me how dull, labored, and vanilla every word out of his mouth is.

It is painful and hilarious that we all pretend he is conveying any useful information.

Adults in peanuts cartoons say more.

Cats in youtube videos are more expressive. Much more.

Is it farce? Is it art? In the words of Bill “wtf are [we] watching?”

I hate Duke… but I’m bummed out on their loss of Brown and Flagg. Hate to see guys go down anytime but especially in March. Can’t wait for Flagg to go pro so I can become a big fan!

@drgnslayr You had me until the last sentence. Once a dukey always a douchey.

I liked Luol Deng. Thats about it.

@approxinfinity That’s much shorter than the list of players I didn’t like! Tripper Allen, everyone hates laetner, Carlos boozer, Jay Williams…the list goes on and on. 😂

Only Duke player I ever thought was halfway OK was Grant Hill.

I was warming up on Jayson Williams coming to the Bulls until he violated his contracted and ended his career in the motorcycle accident and harmed the Bulls chances, but it led to them getting Captain Kirk, so I was happy to see him in Chicago.

This afternoon Wisconsin blitzed UCLA with 19 3 pointers tying the BIG tournament record. They have the BIG reg season record from earlier this season when they made 21 against Iowa. So UW, the offensive juggarnaut now owns both major 3 point records in the Big 10. Greg Gard has completely changed the way he coaches and it's really pretty fun to watch.

@wissox it would be nice if Self would do the same, I think he did in 2017 and 2018. I just wish we would make an attempt to guard the line.

I feel like if we didn’t run out of gas against Zona we would’ve spanked tech tonight with how short handed they were.

@wissox said in Other games 2024-2025:

This afternoon Wisconsin blitzed UCLA with 19 3 pointers tying the BIG tournament record. They have the BIG reg season record from earlier this season when they made 21 against Iowa. So UW, the offensive juggarnaut now owns both major 3 point records in the Big 10. Greg Gard has completely changed the way he coaches and it's really pretty fun to watch.

Correlation or causation that UW is much better this year minus its leading scorer from a year ago???

@kjayhawks Zona attempts to guard the 3. We still lose because of that philosophical difference

Wisconsin vs Mich St going to the wire. Reminder of what high level basketball between 2 teams with complete players looks like.

We just don't have it this year. One AA who can score and board. We have a scorer who can hit from three. We have a forward who can defend. We have a point guard who can defend. We have a three player rotation who might somewhat score. Our 4 and 5 replacements are one and the same. They don't really complement each other. Our favorite play is a soft lob to our center who has three defenders on him and because it's not a secret. Everyone makes their share of turnovers especially when we get up by 7 points. Our best defense is when our opponents miss as many bunnies as we do. The referees are I'll say iffy. We have a HOF coach who I guess they listen to. I think they are spooked by the possibility of the court getting rushed again. Since the new year I think we are the .500 team our results confirm. I don't like it. I don't like myself not liking it. So starting now I am embracing it with like in my heart. I like our chances in the next tourney of surviving. And advancing is optional. I'll like it either way.

Dam I am sooo tired of Frannie, hopefully we can get a different color commentator next yr

@DCHawker Last year the bench at UW was pretty short so they had to lean on AJ. They really have some nice depth now. I'm really lucky to be a fan of them to take the sting off of another down KU season.

@kjayhawks UW's calling card defense is no longer there with this newfound lets outscore them philosophy.

@approxinfinity It was an exhilerating game. High level play. Yes, hopefully KU gets back to that. It wasn't that long ago that it felt like they were at that level beating MSU and Duke.

I'm a fan of Jayson Tatum. I'll have the hardest time liking Zion because of the KU bull shiz around him. Is he even playing, or still hurt?

He may be a blithering idiot, but at least Jon Scheyer got this concept right that Bill Self got wrong:

Sheyer knew in order to make a deeper run this season, he would have to find the right players -- not necessarily the most talented ones -- to complement his superstar freshman.

"I feel my biggest job is roster construction," Scheyer said after Duke's win over Wake Forest earlier this month. "I think that's always been the most important thing as a head coach in college basketball, but especially now.”

Btw the misspelled “Sheyer” was espn. Not me.

In Coach Self's defense, he might know that's his most important job as head coach and it just didn't work out.

I say that because: 1) before the team had entered post-season play last year, he was talking about his thoughts on what he wanted for the team (more athletic, shooters, etc.), and 2) Scheyer may look uniquely good because Cooper Flagg is the kind of player that can mask weaknesses in your team roster.

Apropos of the discussions regarding roster construction, congrats to Eijiofor, Philon, Grant-Foster and Pettiford, who have helped lead their squads to the Big Dance....

Who does Pettiford play for?

@wissox High Point

Yesufu missed it by that much

DeVries out at West Virginia hoops after only one year, headed to Indiana

Anyone remember this name? Ali Farokmanesh hired as coach of Colorado St.

@wissox said in Other games 2024-2025:

Anyone remember this name? Ali Farokmanesh hired as coach of Colorado St.

Never had anything against CSU before, now hope they go 0-30 every year.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Other games 2024-2025:

@wissox said in Other games 2024-2025:

Anyone remember this name? Ali Farokmanesh hired as coach of Colorado St.

Never had anything against CSU before, now hope they go 0-30 every year.

Couldn't have said it better

@Texas-Hawk-10 I suppose you were joking a bit but I admire the heck out of that guy for that shot!

@wissox yeah. Brass cajones, that shot. As a fan of basketball, you have to tip the hat. As I remember it, we werent horrible that day, and they didnt job us with bad calls, Northern Iowa executed brilliantly and earned the win.

@wissox said in Other games 2024-2025:

@Texas-Hawk-10 I suppose you were joking a bit but I admire the heck out of that guy for that shot!

I'm still very salty about that game because that was my last KU game as a student and that was a team that should've won a national championship even more than the 2011 team. That 2010 team only lost 2 games entering the NCAA Tournament and was an overwhelming favorite to win it.

@approxinfinity said in Other games 2024-2025:

@wissox yeah. Brass cajones, that shot. As a fan of basketball, you have to tip the hat. As I remember it, we werent horrible that day, and they didnt job us with bad calls, Northern Iowa executed brilliantly and earned the win.

Sherron and Tyshawn were terrible that game. Sherron was 4-15, including 0-6 from 3 for 10 points and 5 turnovers. Tyshawn was 0-5 from 3 and had 2 points.

UNI earned that win. We were intimidated by the pressure of the tourney and they were not. But there was some luck that factored into the outcome. They could not miss a three all game. A stat that has haunted me ever since was that their center, who had hit 1 career three before that game, went 2-3 from downtown against us.

Ha. You guys hung onto the sting longer? better? than I did. Thanks for reminding me. For some reason that one didnt stick with me because I expected it. Sherron has never been one my favorite Jayhawks. Mostly, I found his decision making maddening. Kind of the opposite of Juan. Hopeless drives to get packed at the rim, etc.

@Jhawk69 said in Other games 2024-2025:

UNI earned that win. We were intimidated by the pressure of the tourney and they were not. But there was some luck that factored into the outcome. They could not miss a three all game. A stat that has haunted me ever since was that their center, who had hit 1 career three before that game, went 2-3 from downtown against us.

UNI was 9-26 from 3, KU was 6-23 from 3 with our star player going 0-6. If Sherron shoots his average (37%), KU wins that game and likely wins a national title.

That shot by Ali was crazy, bet his coach was like “Nooooooo , yes!” But that’s the shot you take in the underdog. If I’m not mistaken that was and still is the highest rated 9 seed since KenPom started. They had zero business being anything worse than a 6. If I remember correctly they were ranked 23rd in the country going into the tournament. We got a favorable draw in 2022 but we have been hosed a lot. I read an article last season how KU has faced the highest rated KenPom team in just about every seed 9-16.

Maybe winning it all in 08 made it sting less in my mind just like this year and 22 still fresh in the memory. Zona in 97, Syracuse in 03 and Michigan in 13 feel a lot worse in my mind.

@wissox said in Other games 2024-2025:

Maybe winning it all in 08 made it sting less in my mind just like this year and 22 still fresh in the memory. Zona in 97, Syracuse in 03 and Michigan in 13 feel a lot worse in my mind.

That 97 team is IMO the best team to not win a Natty in CBB history. Roy Williams has always said that’s the best team he ever coached. Crazy how some of that works out because I think you could argue that the two or three of best Kansas teams in my lifetime didn’t win it.

@wissox I’m still mad at Purdue for 1994. lol. Nearly every season ending loss stings. This year not so much.

@kjayhawks The injury to Jerrod Hasse was unknown to me until just recently in a podcast and it took away his deadly 3 ball for that game.

It'd require a lot of knowledge to say which was the best team to not win it all. One that comes to mind is Houston in 83 when Guy Lewis committed coaching malpractice by going into a stall to blow a comfortable lead to Clyde Drexler, Hakeem Olajuwan, etc. A college team with future Hall of Famers should win a natty and couldn't pull it off a year later either.

@wissox oh for sure the greatest KU team to never win it is highly debatable as it is when you include everyone.

@kjayhawks No the highly debatable part you said I thought you were referring to all of college hoops. I think the 97 KU team is the best KU team ever. 85 could be argued for that title as well. That team beat national champ Louisville twice during the regular season. Never ranked worse than 9th

All of NCAA history, I just don't know enough about the 40's-70's to make a best to not win declaration.

@dylans said in Other games 2024-2025:

@wissox I’m still mad at Purdue for 1994. lol. Nearly every season ending loss stings. This year not so much.

This year stings a lot to me because I thought we had a really good path to the EE had we played well and together. We may not get as favorable as draw as we did this season for another 5 or 10 years.

@kjayhawks eh. This season is quickly fading into the rearview for me, like a cloud of dust at a graveside service.

I very much want to see a roster we can be geeked about for next year to take shape quickly, at least the big pieces.

Last year can RIP

@kjayhawks That very well might be true but I think our 2020 team deserves that title, even if there were other teams with more dominant or better regular seasons in the discussion. The reason being that every other great team not to win a title failed on their own in the tournament. That 2020 team, on the other hand, was unfairly stripped of a chance to play for a title.

@Jhawk69 said in Other games 2024-2025:

@kjayhawks That very well might be true but I think our 2020 team deserves that title, even if there were other teams with more dominant or better regular seasons in the discussion. The reason being that every other great team not to win a title failed on their own in the tournament. That 2020 team, on the other hand, was unfairly stripped of a chance to play for a title.

Yes this for sure makes the 2020 team the hardest pill to swallow.

@kjayhawks Oh I forgot about that one. Probably because it didn't end with a difficult loss. I've often wondered if that team is allowed to play, and assuming they won, does that make it easier for guys like Och to go pro earlier and make 2022 less likely?

@wissox ha, yeah the seldom seen other side of the “its very hard to win it all” coin.

Very unlikely we would have won it all, and also, butterfly effect.

Lets go Vols!

3 Florida v. #13 Arizona at 6 C on TNT. I usually listen to pregame, but I'm interested in both these teams. North Car at 6 also, so I guess I'll record that. Yeah! Basketball

I haven't heard if Canadian Rioux will play this year. He hasn't played yet.

wherethey showing Carolina at ? Can't find it , Florida beating Arizona fairly well up 10 -- -- --BYU plays Villanova later

@SlimShaddy54 ACC Network

Zuby has 12 pts for the #5 Red Storm early in the 2nd half

Arizona holding onto a 4pt lead over #3 Fla. 3 min left. AZ pulling away: 9pt lead 2 min. Not to jinx it but it would be a nice Big 12 win

@stoptheflop nice. Won both halves

UNC starting front line 7.0, 6.10, 6.10.

@Zabudda
The bigger they are, the harder they fall?

I think we should lean into the full-court press against UNC. Our team is built for it and UNC doesn't have a true PG.

@HoraceZontal said in Other games 2025-2026:

@Zabudda
The bigger they are, the harder they fall?

Hope so.

And slower

UNC- Greensboro beating K- Stink 22-12 at 8 minute mark in Manhattan.

At the half UNC -G 34, K-Stink -33

Duke's defense looks good. Duke is also getting the calls again

K-Stink scored 60 points in the 2nd half.

@Jhawk69 said in Other games 2025-2026:

Duke's defense looks good. Duke is also getting the calls again

Saying again insinuates they stopped at one point.

Some good matchups tonight. Michigan almost gets upset by Wake Forest. Illinois small lead over TTech. It's wrapping up on FS1. 5 minutes to go. Creighton-Gonzaga playing. Louisville beats Kentucky, a result that looks good for us. BYU is only up 1 on Delaware with 10 minutes left.

TTech not shooting many FT's but a strange flagrant call on Illinois gave them a chance but they missed the 3. Could have had a 5 point play to tie.

It’s cool to see TGF out there for Gonzaga. He’s an easy guy to root for.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Other games 2025-2026:

It’s cool to see TGF out there for Gonzaga. He’s an easy guy to root for.

I was so high on him coming here, it sucks in a way but glad he is playing.

Mark me as scared that the dook game will resemble the 2014 UK game especially without DP.

@FarmerJayhawk isn’t he 40 by now?

@FarmerJayhawk Man I was watching him play his first game at DePaul, me and about 100 other people were actually there and he mysteriously left the game and never came back. Since that game I've had two different cancers and organs removed, become a father in law, had 2 grand children, ran a halfmarathon, attended an elite 8 game that KU played in and won and took up a whole new sport called disc golf! That's been a long time!

@wissox 😂 you’ve lived a lifetime during TGF’s college playing days.

@kjayhawks

If he doesn't play, it likely won't be a competitive game.

@BeddieKU23 hard to think otherwise watching us and Dook at this point. With Dp it’s likely a 10-15 point loss without him it’s 25 plus IMO.

@kjayhawks

All we can do is hope for improvement and for the best. An opportunity for them to rise to the occasion against a good team. I will be pleasantly surprised if it's a close game given what I've seen of both. If DP Doesn't play or is limited once again it's going to be rough for us fans..

@BeddieKU23 I still think we can grow into a solid team, we just have a long ways to go but heck the last few. years we beat a lot of high profile teams early because we were already what we were. While the others had a much higher ceiling

In the 90s we had “The Truth”. Now we have Nginyu “NGL” Ngala.

Texas A&M goes down tonight to UCF. Rylan Griffen zero pts on 0/4. Clemence has 12 in 17 minutes off the bench.

Coit dropped 19 points in a win over Marquette

KU women beat Missouri last night

Yeah Maryland so far a very good fit for diggy

A little context - Diggy is shooting 31% from 2 and 42% from 3. His effective field goal percentage is slightly lower than it was playing for KU last year (.512 vs .518). He is getting a little more than double the minutes and his stats (good and bad) have pretty much doubled as well. - I enjoyed Diggy, but if he’s getting 32.5 minutes per game something has gone wrong on the recruiting trail (Elmarko 👁️). I’m glad he’s getting his minutes, also glad it’s at Maryland.

@Bosthawk said in Other games 2025-2026:

Yeah Maryland so far a very good fit for diggy

Notably he was going to play for Buzz last year as well at A&M but some things with his academics were in doubt which is why KU ended up with him so late in the process. Definitely a good fit for Buzz.

Former Jayhawk David Coit finished with 41 points (8-10 3FG / 11-11 FT) in a win for Maryland tonight 😳 8/10 on 3’s, 11/11 on FT’s.

@Gorilla72 Dang! Go Diggy!

Wow, that's amazing!

I liked Diggy last year he was a spark plug several times. Honestly would rather he stayed over Elmarko or Mari at this point he’s a much better player than both. It’s the same reason Ngala should play more IMO

@kjayhawks said in Other games 2025-2026:

I liked Diggy last year he was a spark plug several times. Honestly would rather he stayed over Elmarko or Mari at this point he’s a much better player than both. It’s the same reason Ngala should play more IMO

In good years, Bill has a guy off the bench that can be that instant offense/3-point threat. BG, JCL, Moss, and Vick come to mind.

My last hope for this bunch is that some development will still occur as the season goes on. I think Rosario, Council and Dawson can all improve as they adjust to the speed of P5 basketball.

There is no reason Council can't be an efficient 10 ppg just from fast break and straight line drives. He has to stop with the dumb 3s though. The guy absolutely cannot shoot.

Rosario seems like a guy who may find his stroke by the end of the season. He's shooting .292 right now, and his misses are WAY off. I assume that a good part of that is just speed of the game and that by January he may settle in a little.

Dawson is shooting .263 from deep and is a career .363 shooter. I expect the ball to start going in. I, personally, think he has looked more playable the last couple of games and am hopeful he gets into a groove.

Unfortunately, this feels more like the '20-'21 season to me before the '21-'22 season. I think if you can get back Flory, Tiller and Rosario for '26-'27 you can probably build a really good roster around them. I think the incoming freshman class can be your depth. They will need to add a top tier PG through the Portal.

Guys I’m worried KSU could be better than us in basketball. That’s not good, we have a much large NIL but they beat us in the money sports 😳

@kjayhawks said in Other games 2025-2026:

I liked Diggy last year he was a spark plug several times. Honestly would rather he stayed over Elmarko or Mari at this point he’s a much better player than both. It’s the same reason Ngala should play more IMO

I feel like KU would have gladly had him back coming off the bench, but he wanted a larger role than what he would get at KU.

Lol not even without DP @ the K-State worries. They barley beat Cal and Tulsa at home.

Diggy did the right thing IMO. Good for him

@kjayhawks

I think it's way early for that position but the trio of Haggerty/Johnson/Bashir will not be easy to matchup against. Without Peterson, sure just about everyone in the Big-12 will be better.

They don't play a ranked team until January so hard to put much stock into these early games. They can score but they can't defend anyone either.

@BeddieKU23 I hope you are right one of the most embarrassing stats for Bill is 3-3 vs Tang

I really think e can match Norte dame AND Syracuse even without Darryn

Wow, Syracuse taking #3 Houston to OT. TNT just starting OT

Good night for the B12 - several quality wins - SJU, Creighton, Texas, Notre Dame, Syracuse

@stoptheflop

And without their leading scorer who's out like Peterson.

Well KSU finally shut the hell up after playing two teams that people have heard of.

A B10 hasn't won a NCAA title in close to forever, but based on early non-conference returns, that could change this season. B10 teams looking dominant in key non-conference match-ups. May not be quite the level of the SEC last year, but pretty close. Michigan and Dusty May scored big in the portal and the Wolverines look really good. Destroyed a good Auburn team last night, putting up 59 in the first half. Good match up with the Zags next.

@DCHawker Michigan St is looking better than in recent years so far. I'm not convinced Purdue is the best team in the country like they've been ranked so far. Maybe it's memory of March failures past in which I'm still judging them. They have some really good wins including destroying Tech. Illinois is stout but not win it all stout.

@wissox

Purdon't is good this yr but don't worry they will find a way to lose in March

@wissox Two best teams I've seen so far this year Arizona followed by Duke. Michigan is making a pretty good case for themselves the past couple days with a 40 point win over San Diego St. and a 30 point win over Auburn.

@Texas-Hawk-10 Yeah, as we well know, peaking in November is no guarantee of March success!

@BeddieKU23 I hope Matt Painter gets a title one of these years. Seems like a guy that's doing things right.

@wissox

Yeah he's done a great job there. Just seems like he has issues in March. Obviously not easy to win a title, who knows this group might be one to breakthrough

Very thankful we didn't have to play Michigan in Vegas. 40 over SDSU, 30 over Auburn, and currently up 45 on Gonzaga with about 5 minutes left.

Yeah, it does look Michigan had the best week in Vegas.

Michigan is shades of that UConn team they beat everyone by 20 in March. Hope we ain’t on the same side as them in March.

Oddly enough the only team to give Michigan a game this far was TCU in Fort Worth

@kjayhawks said in Other games 2025-2026:

Oddly enough the only team to give Michigan a game this far was TCU in Fort Worth

Wake Forest lost by 1 in OT to Michigan.

TCU wins the little tournament out west by beating Florida and the Badgers. I couldn't watch mainly because youtubetv messed up my recording, but they had us down 19 before UW narrowed it to look respectable. I think TCU is gonna be a tough out this year.