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First time we played UCF, we'd just lost to WVU, and given our results last year in shuffleboard land, I think we were a bit leery of how things would go. Well if you were out celebrating the new year early and incapable of remembering that game, we were pissed. It was embarrassing to lose to Hillybilly Tech. And so we made sure we didn't lose. It felt like one of those Nov 1 games between us and the Nunavit University JV team. We destroyed them.

We got back on our feet, lost a tough one to ISU, but played relatively decently and then a loss that somehow felt WAY worse than the West Virginia debacle. Houston was an all timer. We'll talk about it for decades. Poor DaJuan and Mayo will have nightmares for decades. Bill Self will question all that he has accomplished has just been dumb luck because how could he coach a team that so inexplicably folded twice in the span of 15 minutes?

So poor old Central Florida walks in and must be thinking oy vey, what did we do to deserve this?

Well I predict a confidence booster. I saw a reminder that almost to the day 3 years ago we got destroyed by Kentucky on our home court and many views of the team, including mine I remember, were of a uninspiring end to the season. I think the end was just the opposite. A comeback from the Kentucky doom, and a comeback from the UNC 1st half in NOLA. I think we'll get rolling again and then have to go to Baylor, see ISU again, go to Houston, go to BYU, go to Colorado, see hot Arizona, and wow, TONIGHT IS A MUST WIN!!

KU 100-Central Florida 50.

Sounds like KJ will try to play tonight.

@BShark I amend my score 101-50

Juan OUT, uh oh. Big FAFO moment for ballin10

@BShark heard he got hurt at practice, know how bad?

@BShark I amend my score to 61-60

@wissox said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@BShark I amend my score to 61-60

Yeah I just hope we win at all.

We are 1 game ahead of Central Florida in the Big 12 standings.

Glad I didn't have to jump all game long when I went to KU games

Glad to see Mayo make one.

Slathered!

Mayo mako's many.

Nice pass Flory

Is that KJ coming in?

First to 110 wins?

They look gassed lol

This herky jerky ESPN+ is horrible. We pay money for this. Am I the only one that it glitches like all game long?

@wissox its not freaking out for me

@approxinfinity At least the commercials work fine.....

Yep. Here we go guys. :eyes:

Street ball i see. Just a non serious team

Floor burns on color is a nice touch

Moore putting us in a bind.

Oh my passmore. That's not good

Wow this lineup got funky

Funky junky

Pass less pass better

The DaJuan appreciation society is growing larger.

Try not to sleep walk into a pick 6

Pass more better

Has a team ever beaten one team by 50 points and lost to them in the same season? Can’t be.

Draped in Mayo

Three tos in a rue good grief

Cool let’s give up 130 points this game

4 turnovers in a row

wow wasted Hunters most athletic block of the season with a 1 on 3 contested floater

Self has lost this bunch

Not having a PG really sucks

They could try calling a foul on them. Mayo getting handled every time down.

There we go!

Would be fine if we’d stop with the live ball turnovers

Self looking like a crotchety Izzo over there

No Juan No Moore No Flory… No Storr though

Juan haters wya

I can’t wrap my head around how a college player can come in and act like a jr high backup deer in the headlights

With no Juan or Shak we don't have an actual PG in the game. 4 straight turnovers was very nasty.

How can Coit not handle? Why do 5’8 guys not know how to play point?

Isn't Diggy a pt?

@approxinfinity He can, just not at the KU level

This is what I thought the team would look like at the beginning of the season. Absolutely no defense being played.

@approxinfinity said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

How can Coit not handle? Why do 5’8 guys not know to play point?

Exactly. The guy has been a pg his whole life on the playground

Christ man. These are almost all turnovers on passes. Self inflicted.

Zeke can’t pass inbounds either

@approxinfinity said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

Christ man. These are almost all turnovers on passes. Self inflicted.

Yeah, no PG out there for us

@BShark said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@approxinfinity He can, just not at the KU level

Diggy at PG is what what someone else thinks Dejuan is at PG.

And from the darkness the hero of our Storry emerges!

Dead crowd at home while losing. Always going to help

Basically no one learned the offense except for their usual role

Tonight's game is the type of situation AJ Storr should thrive in since nobody else is playimg defense either.

The genius of Bill Self, create a freakshow lineup that absolutely blows chunks and then insert Storr… nowhere to go but up!

What a joke of a make

It’s as if Harris is maybe kinda sorta a little important.

@Texas-Hawk-10 I had the same thought.

Passed up a 3 to brick a layup

Nice coit

Nice hands kj

KJ catch it with your face!

Storr is a ballerina

KJ isn’t ready to play. Not even jumping

He puts the baller in ballerina

I thought he looked like a Tasmanian devil.

That Storr TO looked he was playing hot potato with it.

Love those 1 ft passes

Nice Mayo!

Nice find!

First good pass from mayo in many games. Nice

Gotta love the effort from hunter so far.

Why can't that 7'2" behomoth dunk and rebound a basketball?

Good thing they're missing, no D boards

Hunt has 0 rebounds.

@patoh3 said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

Hunt has 0 rebounds.

He'd have a few but he hasn't tried yet

@BeddieKU23 The ball must come to him.

Hard to believe this is a bill self team in February almost. Not going to harp on it, but they just don’t look like they even practice. Hard to watch IMO so I hope they pull it together

How serious is DaJuan's injury?

Kj is not even doing anything out there

Wow, central Florida has taken 20 3's and only 8 inside the arc

Yes we should totally miss 3 foot shots over and over

Hunt is 2-8. Good times man.

@BeddieKU23 refuses to kick it out on the double team

@DanR

He's checked out which is normal when we play like this

Jesus I think we have missed about 10 shots from inside 5 feet

Another awesome shot

Hunter and Zeke have taken 16 of our 22 shots.

How many missed bunnies?

Aj doing ok from freebie land

@patoh3 They've missed 10 combined

LOL

KJ has to come out

Nah that's his favorite pet

Looked like the mens volleyball team practicing.

@wissox I was thinking the same thing.

I haven’t seen kj raise either arm above his head. Got the one rebound on a bounce

@DanR

Just like when he got hurt. Playing to his own detriment

@DanR That always helps with shooting, rebounding and defending.

Seeing that Pebble Beach commercial made me drool. How about we have the first annual KUBuckets golf outing to PB late March? We won't be distracted by KU basketball by then, may be fun.

Hunter Dickinson does not have a rebound tonight so far.

Can’t rush a shoulder. I’ve been nursing one of mine for 25 years

Can't make a simple layup

He did raise the arms above his head and can make a FT.

Nice d kj

That was nice!

Wow that's a foul

1 good defensive stance ruined

7'2 guy can't make a layup

@wissox said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

Seeing that Pebble Beach commercial made me drool. How about we have the first annual KUBuckets golf outing to PB late March? We won't be distracted by KU basketball by then, may be fun.

Deal! You and I can ride together and you’ll like me by the end of the 1st hole - guaranteed

FTs keeping us in the game.

Hunter, Flory, and KJ on the floor together right now.

Inject Juan's ankle with magic at half

Regroup at half. Just take care of the ball and we’d be up 10

This team is on a lol

@DanR Making bunnies would help.

Storr has got to be the worst top rated transfer in the portal era

@BeddieKU23 whew. I really want you to be wrong I really do.

3 halfs of badketball and Storr hasn't made a shot.

We wouldn't be close w/out his throws, though

@approxinfinity

So do I. Very questionable take

@BeddieKU23 said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

Storr has got to be the worst top rated transfer in the portal era

To AJ's credit, he's at least being aggressive and getting to the FT line tonight. I can live with this version of AJ.

@BShark said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

Inject Juan's ankle with magic at half

Without Shak running pg and Bill the anti 2 foul guy in the first half we are screwed

Juan is in my top 7 to play for this squad he just gets excuses after excuse from dolla Bill and he’s never been recruited over - that’s my gripes

He’s a great kid and good dude but as a ball player he’s highly flawed

Mayo lol

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@BeddieKU23 said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

Storr has got to be the worst top rated transfer in the portal era

To AJ's credit, he's at least being aggressive and getting to the FT line tonight. I can live with this version of AJ.

As you pointed out, he's doing that because defense is optional for ucf

UCF is only 5 points away from what they scored 3 weeks ago.

Dang Zeke almost made a bucket for them.

Make layups and not turn it over, it’s a 15 point game

Shak was in around the 7 min mark.

Hopefully Moore won't foul himself out. You know the game where your needed the most to run the team. I can see why he hasn't been counted on to run things

@kuballin10 yes, feel the [light side] of the force! [Lift Juan up] with all your [support] and your journey toward the [light side] will be complete!

@wissox said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

Dang Zeke almost made a bucket for them.

Finished the play!

This game is definitely winnable at least. They need to clean up the turnovers and Hunter needs to start making shots.

hmmmm 10 turnovers in 1st half- - missing that kids name oh ya d-2 (Juan ).- - cut them down in the 2nd half which I think we will, shak back hopefully better

Hunter needs to shoot something already so we can eat

Thank goodness the Chiefs won; this team has me completely demoralized.

Ahead 25-15 rebounds. That's something.

@BeddieKU23 said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@BeddieKU23 said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

Storr has got to be the worst top rated transfer in the portal era

To AJ's credit, he's at least being aggressive and getting to the FT line tonight. I can live with this version of AJ.

As you pointed out, he's doing that because defense is optional for ucf

At the same time, he's still the only one driving and forcing contact at the rim.

@tundrahok Yeah but it could be like 35-5 rebounding !

WE were firing the 3's early and making them, 5-8. Then seemingly they stopped shooting them. Another fools gold moment?

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See this? Ugh but lol

I'd say guard that one guy but why bother

These guys are better than Fran and Schiambi

Need a lot more from shak and Rylan this half.

@wissox said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

These guys are better than Fran and Schiambi

Anything is better then that puppet

@wissox said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

These guys are better than Fran and Schiambi

One of them is a Jayhawk so an immediate upgrade over Fran.

@Texas-Hawk-10 Who is the Jayhawk? I know Neely, but who's the other?

@BeddieKU23 said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

Need a lot more from shak and Rylan this half.

Well good news then. KJ is starting the 2nd half instead of Rylan.

Jerod haase

@wissox said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Who is the Jayhawk? I know Neely, but who's the other?

Jerod Haase

Hunt has mailed it in

@Texas-Hawk-10 Had the broken hand, the real reason why we lost to Zona in 1997.

Look self. Sit #1

I'm over Bill Self

I'm glad the half time talk worked

Bill letting kj get cooked at the 3 and his man not even guard him

Bill not playing Rylen

Dolla bill playing 3 bigs when everyone called him a lunatic

We welll no dolla bill deserves to lose what a dumb@$$ and prideful idiot with a bad view of the game

A 3 big line up is not the answer.

Starting 3 bigs after half lmao

He is cooked

Case and point of why I hate switching with bigs.

Bill Self can coach at KU for as long as he'd like.

And 3 bigs just watched mayo get olayed

@BShark said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

I'm over Bill Self

He’s the goat don’t let current results tell you otherwise! The game has not passed him by only Cal (heavy sarcasm)

So a team jacking threes you counter by playing 3 big men smh

@wissox thankfully for the better of the program he will retire after next year and then we can find a new coach to complain about!

@kjayhawks said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

So a team jacking threes you counter by playing 3 big men smh

He's got the answers for sure

@TYOHawk said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

Starting 3 bigs after half lmao

He is cooked

Like seriously what the hell are we doing. WHY is he staying with it when it's obviously bad.

@kjayhawks said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

So a team jacking threes you counter by playing 3 big men smh

Griffin is transferring but that won’t be word from his camp for a while so be prepared for the discord and farmer and bshark to all say “no way” from their sources

Trust me - this trash is obscene to watch and after the game he had last - KJ’s back and he’s already starting getting all these wing minutes when he can’t play the position worth a pigs @rse

@BShark said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@TYOHawk said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

Starting 3 bigs after half lmao

He is cooked

Like seriously what the hell are we doing. WHY is he staying with it when it's obviously bad.

Going out his way…

Sad to see him go out like this.

@BShark

Not serious about tonight obvy

Did y'all hear about Self falling while getting gas a few months ago that bang up his face? I’m really concerned if he isn’t brain dead this point. Sorry but playing 3 bigs right now is one of the stupidest coaching decisions I’ve ever seen. Shockingly it’s not working

Great pass mayo.

Kj is half trying and playing every minute

Coit falls down after routine passes. Reeks of desperation when not desperate

Never a clearer picture of someone who can't rebound then that last one

@TYOHawk said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@BShark said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@TYOHawk said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

Starting 3 bigs after half lmao

He is cooked

Like seriously what the hell are we doing. WHY is he staying with it when it's obviously bad.

Going out his way…

Sad to see him go out like this.

I'm actually worried.

@kjayhawks said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

So a team jacking threes you counter by playing 3 big men smh

Uh uh uh it’s fools gold don’t ya know bud! That’s uh uh what my old pal Sutton always told me back in my hayday!

I can't defend these rotations. I don't know what Bill is trying to accomplish.

@DanR said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

Coit falls down after routine passes. Reeks of desperation when not desperate

Coit and kj together on the court is the worst lineup possible no matter who the other 3 players are

Coit makes Yesufu look like an all American

He’ll have a reasonable sounding explanation post game. Wanted to dominate the boards or something

We played a top 10 team to 2 OT's without a starter 3 days ago, came into this without 2 starters including an all timer for this program at PG and people are turning on Self?

@BShark almost a vendetta agains the fans or program or what?

First calls fans out

Fans show up and he craps his pants with specific plays in crucial moments

Now plays 3 bigs cause I’m sure he observed “kj played harder than griffin” -

Kj is diggy in a bigger body. He’s spastic and makes it appear like he’s really hustling more than he is because you look up and he’s got 2 points, 2 boards and that’s it!

Bad call “ref”

@DanR 😂 oh it will be all about how great it was to have kj back but uh uh boy did you see how bad we missed juan tonight

Dolla bill if you play those three bigs around juan you’d lose tonight as well

You don’t deserve to win with this trash coaching and scheme

I can't believe we all watch this offense

@BShark said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@TYOHawk said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@BShark said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@TYOHawk said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

Starting 3 bigs after half lmao

He is cooked

Like seriously what the hell are we doing. WHY is he staying with it when it's obviously bad.

Going out his way…

Sad to see him go out like this.

I'm actually worried.

From the outside looking in…

It’s not good…he’s lost them

Somewhere after Duke he lost this group

Another streak will end tonight for bill

Kj is still key to the offense

Not going for the monster slam though was telling for kjs health

Kj doesn’t need to be shooting at this point

Get Coit and KJ off the floor

Dajuan makes the offense look a lot better but our perimeter d is really bad

Come on. Get it together for 5 minutes and we got this

Hunt has missed 9 shots. Kj is far from the problem there

Can someone tell us the +/- on guys thus far? Coit must be rough, what about KJ?

KJ -8, Coit -2

Hmm KJ covering the spread…

Hunt -7, Storr +1

@patoh3 flory?

Kj !

Amazing how much better it looks with 2 bigs not 3 all on self we got down 9 points

Flory -1

Crowd appreciates some f ing effort

Coit is now +3

KJ -3.

@patoh3 Hunt is just so god awful lazy on defense

Not a bill self shot but I like that one from zeke at that moment. Aggressive

@kjayhawks Stating it mildly I see.

Nice block Flory!!

Trex getting all the goal tends tonight

Boom

Diggin’ Diggy.

This is all we want. Some passion!!

Damn

Nice 3 coit. Bailing out mayos bs

+14 since switching to 2 bigs 🤷🏻‍♂️

We left Diggy and kj in.

@kjayhawks said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

+14 since switching to 2 bigs 🤷🏻‍♂️

Ifispeak

Mayo had to do it all cuz everyone else had been standing around like statues

I have noticed Shak Moore has been banished to the shadow realm. Must have pissed Bill off.

Diggy 4-7?

@Crimsonorblue22 yep! Some clutch shots too

@BShark said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

I have noticed Shak Moore has been banished to the shadow realm. Must have pissed Bill off.

Fine with how Diggy is playing

Thiam for UCF might be our MVP so far. Started hot but then kept shooting and started missing. Both goaltends are him as well.

Diggy has same number of rebounds as our 7’2” sloth.

Rylen had 11 last time we played them off 4-4 shooting and i think storr did well too

Bad call

They are jacking 3s but some how getting to the stripe this half

Getting way out hustled right now

Flory! Flory! Flory!

Play some d guys

Uncanny ability to guard 3 guys on the other team and leave people open

Good d griff

Rylen! Nice

Wow flory what is your problem man

Hall says “come on yall its easy, theyre just PRETENDING to play defense!”

Nice play flory

Remember when I said seasons end Flory>KJ? It may have happened already

Rylan had a good take too

Rylen’s Game seems to be expanding

Rylan has been big last three minutes. Neeed to win this one for him after the Houston debacle

@BShark said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

I have noticed Shak Moore has been banished to the shadow realm. Must have pissed Bill off.

This is a game where offense is needed, not defense. Diggy is a superior offensive player to Moore.

Nice mayo

Im glad there arent any grown ass men down there ripping it from Flory

Let’s go

…..

Grrr...

That foul call lol absurdly in our favor

Shit play execution

Ref show

Smh I honestly don’t think we are missing Juan a ton on offense with how he tends to dribble in circles going nowhere but missing him on defense

@kjayhawks you so crazy!

Hunter dragged Thaim down on that one, lol!

@approxinfinity we are well above our scoring average

Good grief there's nothing to look at you asshats

Alright alright but we scored more against this team with him.

Good d kj

Why do u think he does that?

Nice sequence for KJ

Finish this one hawks

Dude

Missing key free throws is definitely our thing

I like to think it’s about $250 per free throw for HD

I mean if you watch that film bill and that play. You reward bad effort

@approxinfinity said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

Alright alright but we scored more against this team with him.

True but we played a once in a season game there. Biggest road win in B12 history safe bet it’s an anomaly, we are above our average on scoring, right at our average in turnovers. 4 assists below our average missing about 2 dozen bunnies. I’m sorry but offense isn’t the issue tonight.

Hunter if you arent going to challenge the shooter box someone out. Just cuz you got bounced under the basket doesnt mean you need to stand there

Weak Hunter! Man up dude!

Smart to toss it down

Intentional foul

Pretty sure kj did not want to take that shot

Maybe not let KJ it at games end?

Healthy KJ makes that shot. Flory makes that shot.

Kj good

Clutch kj

Way to step up KJ Juan take notes

Kj got a brace on that shoulder?

Put Flory on the inbounder amd make it harder to get it in.

I dont understand why we dont put Flory in on defensive possessions instead of Hunter

Cluth free throws

If Juan can't go at Baylor...oh man

@kjayhawks you have to be an ass?

@BShark said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

If Juan can't go at Baylor...oh man

Especially since shak is in the doghouse

@Crimsonorblue22 aint my fault a experienced guy can’t hit clutch freethrows

If we don't foul here I will be so mad

I love the students

Well he wasn’t shooting

LOL

@BeddieKU23 said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@BShark said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

If Juan can't go at Baylor...oh man

Especially since shak is in the doghouse

Shak's not in the doghouse tonight. He's not a strong offensive player and KU needed as much offense as possible which Diggy is better at.

GTFO Johnny, refs and announcers

Could have been passing

Not a fucking chance he was shooting that

What are they reviewing

@BShark jeez

@BeddieKU23 said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

What are they reviewing

Clock

totally invalidated anything good these announcers have said

@Crimsonorblue22 said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@BShark jeez

It's the smart basketball play

Side arm shot according to Hasse

I don't understand

@BeddieKU23 said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

I don't understand

They were looking at how much time was on the clock at the moment of the foul.

This is why hasse is an announcer

No Mayo inbounding this one.

‘Night Knights! Safe trip back to BFE, Florida

Oh my still couldn't inbounds it

Obviously a foul

@approxinfinity ya the guy saying he was shooting off balanced with 3.5 to go still is fucking single digit IQ fella to put it nicely

@kjayhawks that was Haase, disappointing

Rylan stole the ball before Johnson even started any shooting motion so how can it be a shot if he didn't even have possession of the ball and then was fouled

@approxinfinity said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@kjayhawks that was Hasse, disappointing

Well I zero respect for that take ain’t no wonder he ain’t coaching anymore lol

Jarrod Haase was the announcer?

I think he was saying Dickerson too for a good part of the game.

Well Rylan did well. Coit made some shots. We made freethrows. We didnt lose. Thats about it for positives?

@dylans said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

Jarrod Haase was the announcer?

I loved the way he played. Mr Floor Burns.

Flory had a double double.

Key points in the game - - - - Ziggy 12 huge points - - -Flory- -10 points - --11 rebounds- --& 5 blocks- - -KU - 10 turnovers the first half -- - 2 turnovers the 2nd half

I hate to say but we won the game tonight in spite of Bill Selfs coaching. Sorry but hard truth 3 bigs wasn’t ever going to ever in todays game and it sure as hell won’t ever work against a team with 4 or 5 shooters. We don’t get down 9 points to start the second half if that stupidity doesn’t happen. Looked good offensively the second half and would’ve been fine had Hunt shot normal average that close to the hoop in the first. I learn tonight we can move the ball much much better than we have been if Juan doesn’t come back and dribble in circles to go nowhere. We without question missed his long arms getting in the passing lanes on defense. Shout out to KJ for playing like as you would expect a senior with the game on the line.

@kjayhawks said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@approxinfinity ya the guy saying he was shooting off balanced with 3.5 to go still is fucking single digit IQ fella to put it nicely

Do everyone including yourself a favor and shut up. You are the most negative person on these boards and nothing the football players and coaches or basketball players and coaches do is ever good enough. Yet, you have the balls to try call others out for shit talking players on social media when all you do is talk shit about them here and claim to be nice to them on social media. All that does is make you a two-faced snake and a shitty human being.

Hunter 24 ---- Zeke 24 - - Flory -10- -- Diggy 12

@Texas-Hawk-10 i started it, smack talking haase, fwiw. It was a ridiculous thing to say that Hall was in the act of shooting.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@kjayhawks said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@approxinfinity ya the guy saying he was shooting off balanced with 3.5 to go still is fucking single digit IQ fella to put it nicely

Do everyone including yourself a favor and shut up. You are the most negative person on these boards and nothing the football players and coaches or basketball players and coaches do is ever good enough. Yet, you have the balls to try call others out for shit talking players on social media when all you do is talk shit about them here and claim to be nice to them on social media. All that does is make two-faced snake and a shitty human being.

This has nothing to do with the post you replied to genius. Nothing wrong with calling out players for bad play it’s part of the game. Big difference IMO than directly messaging or tagging them in negative feedback. Just about everyone on here has negative things about players. It’s part of being an athlete. There will be outside noise at this level.

Kj probably was the difference. Griff had a good stretch when it counted, rock chalk and practice practice practice

@DanR first game off of an injury couldn’t ask for much more for KJ. Thought he played a bit much at 26 minutes. Trim it down to 20 and that him at his best IMO.

@DanR is that really the takeaway? I was worried this would happen. The KJ plays through injury so KJ is tough fallacy. Was he really better than having Bidunga out there down the stretch?

Never in doubt amirite

I may need to rewatch this one to see if i can get a clearer perspective on whether KJ was clutch or crutch

@approxinfinity said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@DanR is that really the takeaway? I was worried this would happen. The KJ plays through injury so KJ is tough fallacy. Was he really better than having Bidunga out there down the stretch?

Flory played 30 minutes so I bet he was a little gassed and with it being the end of the game going with experience was Self’s smartest move of the day. We all know what happened at the end of the WV game.

@approxinfinity we can have both guys available. Flory doesn’t help move the ball on the offense like kj does

@DanR I think with how high energy both guy are you try to get them in that 20-25 minute range.

Fair. I can get behind KJ being the difference on this one. Ball definitely moved and if Flory got 30 that makes a lot of sense.

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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@kjayhawks said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@approxinfinity ya the guy saying he was shooting off balanced with 3.5 to go still is fucking single digit IQ fella to put it nicely

Do everyone including yourself a favor and shut up. You are the most negative person on these boards and nothing the football players and coaches or basketball players and coaches do is ever good enough. Yet, you have the balls to try call others out for shit talking players on social media when all you do is talk shit about them here and claim to be nice to them on social media. All that does is make two-faced snake and a shitty human being.

This has nothing to do with the post you replied to genius. Nothing wrong with calling out players for bad play it’s part of the game. Big difference IMO than directly messaging or tagging them in negative feedback. Just about everyone on here has negative things about players. It’s part of being an athlete. There will be outside noise at this level.

Calling Jerod Haase single digit IQ, clearly you're not talking shit about him. That's exactly my point about you. All you here do here is post negative shit because you don't have the balls to attach your name to the negative bullshit you post here like you would on social media. So yes, you're a two-faced snake because you hide behind the anonymity of this site instead of saying you're true feelings directly to the players.

@Texas-Hawk-10 correct I called out the announcers not the players on that post. As did several others on here that you didn’t have the guts to say anything too. Several others also called out the players much more than I did tonight. I basically got on Hunts lazy defense that was all I said about the players. I can’t live in lala land like most posters do that we are just gonna cake wake to a national title. You know I love you, enjoy the win!

We survived. I am glad. Please come back soon DaJuan

@kjayhawks said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@Texas-Hawk-10 correct I called out the announcers not the players on that post. As did several others one here that you didn’t have the guts to say anything too. You know I love you, enjoy the win!

My point went beyond just that single post about Haase because all you did during football season was talk shit about the team and coaches and all you've been doing with the players and Self the past few weeks is talk negative about them on here, but you're so narrow minded and focused to even realize that.

Peace out!

@kjayhawks do you even know who jerod haase is?

@Crimsonorblue22 said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@kjayhawks do you even know who jerod haase is?

Yes I actually have his autograph and met him when I was in grade school. Doesn’t change the fact that him thinking that was shooting foul was stupid as hell. Once again I wasn’t the only one.

I think @Texas-Hawk-10 is referring to your post about befriending Juan on insta or whatever and referring to Juan saying he wanted some of whatever you were eating. Meanwhile you’ve been one of the more vocal Juan bashers. Imo its not really duplicitous to say one thing to players and another on here, but you made the two worlds collide by telling us you are friendly with him. Lol

But, I agree this was hangover from another thread.

people are blowing off steam, we probably should move on?

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@kjayhawks said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@Texas-Hawk-10 correct I called out the announcers not the players on that post. As did several others one here that you didn’t have the guts to say anything too. You know I love you, enjoy the win!

My point went beyond just that single post about Haase because all you did during football season was talk shit about the team and coaches and all you've been doing with the players and Self the past few weeks is talk negative about them on here, but you're so narrow minded and focused to even realize that.

Peace out!

I guess the only one mad during the football season buddy lol

@approxinfinity said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

I think @Texas-Hawk-10 is referring to your post about befriending Juan on insta or whatever and referring to Juan saying he wanted some of whatever you were eating. Meanwhile you’ve been one of the more vocal Juan bashers. Imo its not really duplicitous to say one thing to players and another on here, but you made the two worlds collide by telling us you are friendly with him. Lol

But, I agree this was hangover from another thread.

people are blowing off steam, we probably should move on?

To me it’s a big difference than getting on and saying wow an experienced player should be able to step and make FTs (if you look back at the thread prior to that I said it was one of if not his best game). Than me send him a snap chat saying you suck wtf dude!

@approxinfinity I have a friend that sings I don’t think he’ll ever make big doing it and I’m not a fan of his music. So should I not be his friend because I don’t like the way the he sings?

@kjayhawks haha yeah. And in this thread you did give him props for his defensive impact. I will agree to disagree about our offense. I think Juan running the offense more methodically means much much fewer transition buckets for UCF.

I didn't watch the game. Been dealing with people trying to purge the federal workforce. Looks like it was a real defensive slugfest...

@approxinfinity I’m a very logical man and I don't sugar coat stuff. I’m not everyones cup of tea because of that and that’s more than okay. But it’s the real world Tattoo ain’t gonna coming by in his white tuxedo welcoming every to fantasy island anytime soon.

I left the thread as it was getting stupid. Amazing what happens when i do that. I picked up a book while still watching and not getting stressed by quite a few people that I don't really agree with but are friends anyways.

My biggest disagreement was with the was he shooting or not shooting question. I thought he was. Didn't think Haase was stupid saying that. He pulled up the dribble to get into a shooting motion. Now was it in anticipation of a foul? Probably and can see the viewpoint that it wasn't.

What's really stupid to me is people on here who have been on here or over at KUSports of the LJWorld for all this time cussing people out and all this over a game. Strategy, players, one guy says this, the other says that and while maybe if we were all sitting around in a room discussing the game it'd be different. In person you can really have fun back and forth arguments. Keyboards don't allow for that for some reason. It's really disturbing and as much as I enjoy chatting, I really don't get into online arguments too much. I've had some here too I agree, but what's the point?

Tomorrow I've got to go to work and try to assure many hispanic students in my classroom that they're safe. I've got to try to write another girl who is hospitalized for self harm. Real life issues make arguing about sports and players and teams really pointless, and then @MoonwalkMafia chimes in basically saying the same thing. Peace out folks. Life is beautiful and fun if you allow it to be.

@kjayhawks drastic difference and pathetic you are even having to defend yourself over this

Major difference in saying a guy sucks and is playing like trash (when he the player would agree) and still being a nice human being towards him because his basketball skill doesn’t count towards his character

College buddies and I say some real bad stuff to each other yet you are having to defend yourself for saying a KU player sucks because someone’s feelings got hurt on here

lol major sawffft - dolla bill’s pu$$itis is wearing off on the fans

I have a friend who is a DaJuan hater. He still won't admit that he is wrong. Lesson: don't try to convince them. Proof won't change their mind. Just be glad he is on the team. It's better to have a good player certain people think is bad than a bad player certain people think is good.

@Jhawk69 why you doggin Storr like that?? ;)

@wissox thats fair. But just because he raised his arms doesn’t mean it was a shooting motion. He also had several teammates downcourt to pass to, and having watched more NBA than i care to admit, i would have been very surprised it they awarded that a foul. I have seen Steph Curry flail for the foul on shots he actually has business shooting and doesnt get. I overreacted about Haase. What irritated me was a) he is Haase b) he was telling us it was a foul, not suggesting that it might be a foul.

I guess thats his job, but its asking for a firm response.

@kuballin10 I’ve probably met close to a 100 KU athletes over the years. Whether it be Mitch Lightfoot sitting down with my son and I at Jefferson’s or waiting for autographs after events. I have one rule I tell my son when talking to them. Never coach them or talk about how they played unless it’s a compliment. They have a whole staff of coaches and administrators that are already telling what to work on. Had some great conversations about Lawrence or someone’s family that knows someone I know or of that nature.

Flory Bidunga Highlights vs. UCF (10 Pts, 11 Rebs, 5 Blks)

Zeke Mayo Highlights vs. UCF (24 Pts, 9 Rebs, 5 Asts)

This game showed me how valuable Juan is... on both sides of the ball. We lost the assist totals by 6. A stat we usually carry, largely because of Juan. And we didn't do it because all our guys were driving the ball, though AJ wasn't shy in his limited minutes.

One stat that just keeps getting bigger... Rylan, 26 minutes, 4 points. He should easily have 12+ points every game... easy. We run nothing for him and he's our best threat from 3. We lose so much when he plays 26 minutes and only scores 4 because he is a defensive liability. He's here and earning minutes because of his trey threat.

KJ... the guy I isolate watching... he did both good and bad. He brought some energy and it took a while but he proved valuable down the stretch. It's just hard now to give up any Flory minutes to KJ. Flory only played 2 minutes more than KJ, but snagged 6 more rebs than KJ and had 5 blocks to none for KJ. But we do need an extra big for depth, and as long as KJ can add some energy, and some stats, the loss won't be huge. But if Self starts giving KJ 35 minutes and benches Flory... not a positive!

I'm having a hard time assessing the value of Moore now. He almost seems like he is battling his old injury. His play is becoming timid, and he's backing down too much on offense. I didn't see great defense from him tonight. No wonder his minutes were backed off to 12, even with Juan out.

Coit is our guy... who will be an occasional spark plug off the bench. Tonight, he really rescued us on his trey shot.

I hope Juan is back for the weekend. We aren't ready to face more challenges without him. Just too valuable.

I felt a lot more comfortable after the Houston loss than I do after this victory.

Anybody know why Shak didn’t get any run in the second half? That was weird.

Speaking of weird, just about everything else in that game qualifies.

Playing time, rotations, passing ability, defense, coaching. Challenging times.

It was obviously rough without Dajuan. Let the debate return to how many minutes he plays, and not about him starting.

This is an awkward, uncoordinated team (it’s difficult to watch Rylan do anything but shoot). We need more guys who can actually dribble the ball without falling on their face.

Having only watched Storr while at KU…he seems better suited to be an open court player. Not a lot if that happening at KU this year. May actually be a better pro? Ha.

Got a chuckle out if the fastest hook ever when Self pulled Passmoore!

Jeez, we won but I still feel trodden upon.

Maybe we should play Duke every game.

But, we won without a starter and a half.

I agree with almost everything @rockchalkjayhawk but KJ should no longer be a starter, so down 1 starter (harping because he rushed back from injury and that should not change the equation; Flory should start going forward). This may be arguing semantics. I would acknowledge down 1.5 heavy rotation players.

And, I think Rylan did more than shoot. Most def should not be a primary handler but otherwise he contributed in several areas, I thought and it stuck out to me during game when on ball. I will have to keep my eye on him a little more off ball, especially on the defensive end @drgnslayr . I havent been paying attention there

Who was responsible most for the open shooters when UCF got into their action?

@approxinfinity said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

I agree with almost everything @rockchalkjayhawk but KJ should no longer be a starter, so down 1 starter (harping because he rushed back from injury and that should not change the equation; Flory should start going forward). This may be arguing semantics. I would acknowledge down 1.5 heavy rotation players.

And, I think Rylan did more than shoot. Most def should not be a primary handler but otherwise he contributed in several areas, I thought and it stuck out to me during game when on ball. I will have to keep my eye on him a little more off ball, especially on the defensive end @drgnslayr . I havent been paying attention there

Who was responsible most for the open shooters when UCF got into their action?

Self is responsible for making them double team Hall which created the open shots. Hunter wasn't guarding their 7'2 guard outside. But half the time nobody was guarding their man. It's difficult

KJ looked half of himself but as the game wore on, he gave good effort and was a key part at times in securing the win. His FT shooting was clutch as it's been a bright spot all year. We need him healthy there's no doubt and happy and lucky he didn't get injured again.

There has to be something going on behind the scenes with Moore. His usage is bizzarro land. I can imagine Self was not pleased with him for getting 2 quick fouls and basically never saw the floor after that. I wasn't paying attention to his miscues but he did not step up for this team when they needed him. A 24 year old that didn't take the chance and run with it. Very disappointing really.

@drgnslayr KJ is valuable and the Houston game showed it. If his injury had kept him out again we lose last night.

@rockchalkjayhawk You made a lot of good points. AJ is definitely an open court type and I thought with the personnel changes last night that he might get to do so. But his limited time he did a few nice things but still showing he's trying too hard to make something happen.

Last night kind of felt like Self just told the guys just make sure you outscore them.

Mayo (where would we be without him) was frustrating. He was giving up jump shots and driving to try some off balance layup thing and they seemingly never went in. With all of the missed shots we had I'm not sure how we got to 91 except this may be Self's best FT shooting team and they made a boatload.

@BeddieKU23 i hope he gets more chances

@rockchalkjayhawk said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

Anybody know why Shak didn’t get any run in the second half? That was weird.

He messes up the offensive plays constantly. He was also bad last night in general. Bill be unwilling to go to him or AJ is probably why we saw that 3 big crap in hindsight.

Im curious, if Self’s action is complicated why does he recruit guys who cant do it? Where is the disconnect? If we hire someone weak in IT we look at the interview process. Is it really not possible to determine if a kid will be able to run your stuff or not? Specifically a PG, seems like you would figure that out.

How complicated are the things they are being asked to do? What is a reasonable time frame for knowing the plays in Self’s system?

It’s becoming more obvious as the season wears on that Bill is playing the guys he is because the others are so inconsistent. He has to play most of his bench each night to figure out who’s going to bother to show up that night to fill out the minutes.

We missed Juan. Flory goes double double with 5 blocks. Hunt snaps out of it and makes three straight FG's, hits free throws down the stretch and scores 24. Diggy comes up big in crunch time. Zeke keeps acting like a 24 point a night scorer. We need to keep up what we are doing and keep using the 9 deep tactic until we really find out what we have in each guy. Ten turnovers in half number one and UCF until KJ's steal only had four all game and UCF made 14 threes. We had 10 threes ourselves and it is not so shocking when a sorely needed one goes down. Our vaunted defense was spotty and over came their FT shooting. I think Rylan and AJ are quality guys and we need them. Rylan has moved up to a solid C+ while AJ is somewhere else but keep playing him because we need him to take off. Not sure about Shak either and is he still hurt? Flory, Hunt, Zeke and Juan are the real core and a good enough one to win many more games. I'm still pissed about the Houston game what a complete waste. Like this game when we get 58 points from Flory, Zeke and Hunter is a must win for us no excuses.

@approxinfinity Self's defense against the pick and roll doesn't work without a Flory. This team has grasped his stuff decently but we could value every possession better and our ball handling needs to get better. When we have a line up that works we are good and trending to very good I think. I am way too unforgiving and when I back off a bit it becomes more enjoyable. Watching Udoka and big Dave getting better was them getting better handles. Flory is way ahead of them as freshmen.

@Zabudda With the 4 you mentioned as a core, I think Rylan has a good chance to shine as our 5th.

I do think Flory learns quickly and has the knack. Could be a really good pro.

@BShark said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@rockchalkjayhawk said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

Anybody know why Shak didn’t get any run in the second half? That was weird.

He messes up the offensive plays constantly. He was also bad last night in general. Bill be unwilling to go to him or AJ is probably why we saw that 3 big crap in hindsight.

Not sure which is more frustrating, watching shak and AJ blow up an offensive set by being in the wrong spot or diggy on d just wave exuberantly as he is either significantly out of position or in a ridiculous mismatch. Diggy was the main reason that dude went for 30. Everyone had to help him so much.

@benshawks08 yeah that was what i thought i saw (Diggy getting torched) but wanted to hear it from someone else. Thanks :)

Both diggy and Rylen have to score because they give up so much on the defensive end.

Couple of things you may/may not know about the end of game from last night. Coach said he told the guys to foul on the final possession BEFORE the guy got to half court NOT after , and they didn't do that. could of been costly. He said that's why he doesn't like to foul in those situations.

He also said about that last possession that the officials when they went to the table , they were only checking about the time NOT if the guy was in his shooting motion, saying that wasn't something they could review even if they wanted to. - It was all about the time left.

He also said the officials said when UCF was trying to say he was in the act of shooting all the officials were saying Oh No , No , No .
Things I myself didn't know.

@kjayhawks said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

Both diggy and Rylen have to score because they give up so much on the defensive end.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees this.

Diggy is kind of a scoring afterthought. His trey shot isn't as steady as Rylen. Rylen really has great form. His release is way up there, quick, and with good form. He tries to set up his footing correctly, too.

One of the biggest improvements we can make right now is to take advantage of this excellent scoring option! But we have to run plays for him. He can use off-ball screens and use motion to create the space he needs. He should be an offensive priority!

I'll keep saying it... he should be a steady scorer of 12+ ppg, even if he only plays 20 minutes.

What a complete waste of talent.

@benshawks08 said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@BShark said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@rockchalkjayhawk said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

Anybody know why Shak didn’t get any run in the second half? That was weird.

He messes up the offensive plays constantly. He was also bad last night in general. Bill be unwilling to go to him or AJ is probably why we saw that 3 big crap in hindsight.

Not sure which is more frustrating, watching shak and AJ blow up an offensive set by being in the wrong spot or diggy on d just wave exuberantly as he is either significantly out of position or in a ridiculous mismatch. Diggy was the main reason that dude went for 30. Everyone had to help him so much.

poor Diggy. he's got just the one job though. shoot. i don't expect any more of him.

@benshawks08 said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@BShark said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@rockchalkjayhawk said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

Anybody know why Shak didn’t get any run in the second half? That was weird.

He messes up the offensive plays constantly. He was also bad last night in general. Bill be unwilling to go to him or AJ is probably why we saw that 3 big crap in hindsight.

Not sure which is more frustrating, watching shak and AJ blow up an offensive set by being in the wrong spot or diggy on d just wave exuberantly as he is either significantly out of position or in a ridiculous mismatch. Diggy was the main reason that dude went for 30. Everyone had to help him so much.

Yeah Diggy was out there guarding air. Kind of surprised Self went with him but I guess he felt we needed offense more.

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@kjayhawks thanks for this. Little ridonkulous innit?

@approxinfinity Pictures can be deceptive. Watch the replay and when the screen shot kjayhawks shared occurred. In my view he's gathering the ball to shoot, anticipating the foul, sure, but he's already given up his dribble when that still shot was framed.

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@wissox that doesnt mean he was in a shooting motion. It means he picked up his dribble. You have to draw the line somewhere. If i get a defensive rebound, see you running and looking the other way and i step in front of you and when you crash into me, hurl the ball from my hip at my rim 90 feet away do you think theyd give me 3 shots? Lol.

In the screenshot @kjayhawks posted he was shielding with his left hand as it was fouled by Griffen. Ball was only in his right. If we want to say waving one handed at the rim 50 feet away is a shot then you may as well get rid of fouls on the floor.

@approxinfinity ya I hate to be a dick but no way no how he is shooting that in the frame shoot when the actual foul happened. With over 3 seconds why would you shot that from there?

I think he threw his hands up after contact trying to draw a foul. It’s not uncommon. Doesn’t matter. He missed the front end of the free throws.

@dylans good point

My daughter was convinced he was passing the ball to his teammate further down court closer to the baseline. Then he threw up his hands to draw the call. I agree.

@HoraceZontal thats how i saw it as well from the behind cam

Agree on above, he tried to sell a shooting foul anticipating the call when he was trying to pass the ball to the corner.

TBH hate both sides of that play. Hate when players try to anticipate the foul and that fouling up 3 is rewarded.

Feel like both these could be removed from the game if NCAA put a rule in place where the fouled team can choose to take the ball out instead of FTs. If that doesn't go far enough, could also let the fouled team choose to have a 5-10 sec clock runout/reset when the game is under 1-2 mins.

@MR11 interesting option, addition of time. I mean Duke gets extra time anyway, why not everyone else? :)

@MR11

Yeah I agree it's not the best. Self actually prefers not to foul in that situation and with the way that play ended up being questionable I can see why. If this game were at UCF I don't have confidence it would have been called the same way.

Too risky probably but it was okay in the end. What to think about this team? I think we might have opened the door more than just a little bit. So many improbable plays at the end in Ames, double that down against Houston, and it would have been easier to lose to UCF than Houston. We have Flory and the three pointers which could be tenuous or not. We were top 10 tough defensively but that is fleeting maybe. Too many partially answered questions but we are closer than close it would appear. Do you think we can end the conference with just two more losses? How many words does it take to not say anything?

@kjayhawks said in KU Mad, Central Florida next on schedule, part 2.:

@approxinfinity ya I hate to be a dick but no way no how he is shooting that in the frame shoot when the actual foul happened. With over 3 seconds why would you shot that from there?

Because he was trapped on the sideline?

Not gonna keep arguing because I like that the refs favored KU again, just like they do for the....drumroll please, for the CHIEFS!!!!

Been hearing a lot lately that Every single player at some point this season has been very hot about way things are going---- - others production- --- -rotation/playing time - ---locker room issues.-- I guess there has been some petty long intense team meetings.

Things are NOT OK in that locker room..-- I seriously believe from what I hear that Rakease- --Rylan -- -AJ -- McDowell - - - Dickinson - - -Juan - - - - KJ - - Zach - Diggy -- Moore - - WILL NOT RETURN next year, - people thinking they need to see more floor time ( What a surprise ) - -Complete overhaul- Don't be shocked if Rylan AND - AJ both gone.

Truly feel that we could see Coach Self return next year and then hang it up

@wissox I agree to disagree with you

@HoraceZontal

I thought if he was shooting the basket must have been in the corner. Good call.

Clearly a foul on the floor and he threw his hands up afterwards. In real time it can be hard to tell but with the replay it is obvious

The way the season has been going, I was just waiting for us to foul a 3 pt shooter there.

Not unprecedented with this bunch.

But probably the right call. Would not have surprised me if they said he was shooting. All players play up the drama in those situations.

@SlimShaddy54 That’s the rumor mill but definitely more substantiated than just online fodder - there’s real truth to it

I’ve been saying Griffen is gone - that’s been known in Bama circles for a few weeks now.

Plenty unhappy with the core 3 sucking yet again and the guys brought in never getting a fair shot while treated like the step children

@kuballin10 Ya been hearing from pretty informed that Rylan is not happy, feeling he had made a bad decision -- but even with others playing or not playing, just a lot of turmoil,- Bad chemistry, a lot surrounding Hunter - bad vibes in the locker room.

More then anything too a just an observer you can tell-- something is just off -just not good mix.-- The talent is there, more then enough - -just not working and guess finding out some reasons why

@Jhawk69 You say clearly. No, not clearly, could have gone either way.

It could have gone the other way but it would have been a bad call, I think. We got lots of bad calls in our favor that night, but that wasn’t one of them. My opinion of course, which I dont think is biased this time :)