Scot Pollard will be in the house tonight for the first time with his new heart. Pretty inspiring story playing on game day right now.
As for the game, zero confidence but who knows. Hope we win, won't ruin my day if we don't.
Scot Pollard will be in the house tonight for the first time with his new heart. Pretty inspiring story playing on game day right now.
As for the game, zero confidence but who knows. Hope we win, won't ruin my day if we don't.
@wissox That's really cool that Scott can make it to the game. He has went through a lot, going to be a great crowd today /juiced. -Scott was always kinda played to a different tune when he was at KU lol.
Him and his brother came in to where I worked here in Topeka late one night really cool guy- --funny enjoyed talking with him , hopefully he is recouping well
I'll just say Bill has figured something out and give us a hard earned 70-69.5 win.
This will be a real test. Hope our guys come ready to play. Iâve never experienced a KU team where it means so much to come ready because this team doesnât seem like big fighters.
I would like to see KU play with defensive intensity. It drives me batty that opposing players come into Allen and feast on offense.
Tell us what you want what you really really want. I wanna see Rylan and AJ and Zeke go to the rack and finish.
Today would be a good day to play a complete game at home against a good team. Must win
Wowsa, Arkansas, apparently with a hall of fame coach has 10 points with 2 minutes left in the half against woeful South Carolina.
@wissox said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
Wowsa, Arkansas, apparently with a hall of fame coach has 10 points with 2 minutes left in the half against woeful South Carolina.
USC is 1-14 in their league.
The other day I went to ESPN to open a box score for our game. It wasn't there. I was waiting for it to appear at the start of the game. Then I realized it wasn't there with the other scores because we're not ranked. TT is ranked so our game was there today.
Arkansas is listed as a last four byes team. Shockingly bad performance and Arkansas might be having some buyers remorse with Cal.
Currently on a lunch break for a professional development and will end up missing the game today.
I just want Hunter to play with energy and be engaged throughout the game because KU won't win otherwise.
@Texas-Hawk-10 PD on Saturday? What kind of school district you work for?
Tejas Tec a big 1-22 at Allen Fieldhouse, letâs hope they donât double their win count today
@Texas-Hawk-10 But it's important you checked in so we don't give you an unexcused absence.
Nice way to start !
Scoring is easy right now.
Good energy to start here
Lovely start.
Shots falling and boarding!
Is it just me or is espn's audio off so far
Hunt should have dunked. But KJ cleaned up the rb
I'm glad they waved it off but I think Hunt got fouled on that shot.
KJ bringing that energy
Tech really knows how to find good coaches, even if they're lowlifes. Not saying McCasland is either, I hope not.
Toppin is really good and a problem
Starting off with energy and points, hope they keep it up
Toppin gonna get his just have tommake sure someone else doesnât beat us
Beard hired Mark Adams at Mississippi. Birds of a feather......
But I'm sure the racists in Mississippi like Adams.
That lineup won't cut it
11-0 run after everything looked easy.
Wow hunt that's piss poor
AJ just made his contractually required basket
Keeping hunt in with 2 fouls. Ouch
AJ punished for missing the box out which led to Hunter foul
Self quick hook to the guy who is supposed to be the game changer
Doesnât quick hook hunterâs laziness or KJâs or d2âs
They're torching us from the line obviously.
3 big lineup - Bill please retire
Apparently Tech doesn't foul. Or the refs are just ignoring Tech
Self with his trolling lineup. Good times man
D is bad
I wish I could sit in film and ask Bill just WTF he sees in this line up thatâs even remotely positive
Six treys?
Like they are saying on the Radio if you don't get a hand up of course these guys gonna kill you-- -WIDE open Three's eight minutes into the game and already thirteen attempts
Yup
I don't get why team doesn't throw it to Flory - he's got a good seal in the paint on so many occassions.
@SlimShaddy54 Due to how Self as always chooses to guard inside out
@SlimShaddy54 3s been killing BS year after year. his adjustment in transfers so far hasn't blossomed so far.
Preparing for the possibility of an 0-3 finish to the regular season.
Yeah F Flory!
Letâs get Zeke going here
@kjayhawks He has looked shaky so far.
call a frickin foul refs
let's get the fouls lined up
Not Hunters day.
Look guarded 2 from 2 feet is missed by Hunter
But itâs closer to the rim!
7'2 guy that struggles to make layups
nice twister move, KJ
6-0 since my doom and gloom post
Good job KJ with OR.
nice rebound, KJ
2 low passes to the big dude.. that's just not gonna work
Oh my hunt that's terrible
Come on guards, score the ball. Jeez, only the bigs came to play
Two things , we just can't make these stupid turnovers , & we have just GOT TO get Zeke to Score
@BeddieKU23 said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
Oh my hunt that's terrible
You canât pass it that low to the big guy. Guards would be running in practice for that
Dang Griffin seems big enough to drive in traffic and finish but he doesn't. He's got to give Hunter better passes than that too.
Good to see Scot and Dawn!
@BeddieKU23 hands of stone
Earth to Hunter there's a game going on. Toppin best player on the floor and 27% three shooter hits against us,
i notice, some of you might as well, our guys don't seem confident taking jump shots.
20-25 points in the paint by us.
@Crimsonorblue22 Dawn? You know these guys spouses names even? :)
Add in 2 FTâs and that leaves Griffâs 3 the only shot made outside the paint
She's a rock star
I wish Flory could make FTs
He we go Fts to get Zeke going
That's tough to stop that shot.
Keep it up Griff.
gutsy 3!
Wow, a logo 3 basically.
Whatâs the review for?
Unfortunately they just look at lot better offensively then us.
Why can't we rebound the ball?
woow Flory copies Rylo's exact spin move. impressive!
Toppin just taking Flory to school every time
@BeddieKU23 we're not a threat outside - they're the opposite
@Crimsonorblue22 get Diggy going, then we'll talk
@SlimShaddy54 said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
Toppin just taking Flory to school every time
He is a lotto pick. Flory just needs an offseason to gain some strength and a few pounds
@Crimsonorblue22 him too
good spin move down low by HD
I think that is the fastest I have seen Hunt move.
Bill Self 0-7 vs top 10 all time when his team is unranked. Hard to see that streak ending today
Harris is a terrible PG
No defense at all
Letting it slip away.
21 of their 30 shots from 3. It's inept to not adjust
Toppin reminding me of what Glenn Robinson did to us in the dance 30 years ago.
nice floater
Travels aren't a thing anymore?
Me thinks we might lose our last three games which would be downright no fun at all
is that Tech's new coach?
f 3s! defend the perimeter!
@jay4ever said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
f 3s! defend the perimeter!
It's because self is making them double on the post. It's idiotic
Can we adjust our defense?
This is unwatchable
@BeddieKU23 i never understand the double - leaving so many options
Gave up 10 3's in a half. Figure it out self
I think maybe we need to adjust the way we guard like watch BYU all over again
just so sad boys & girls
I think there's golf on
given up 50 pts at half
@jay4ever said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
given up 50 pts at half
Not atypical for this bunch
we got height adv - deplore twin tower HD & FB - seal on the inside - make a couple of 3s bw Zeke & Dogey we'll be back in business
Think I'll go watch some good old Gene Hackman movies -- Maybe Hoosiers-- sad to see he passed
67% effective FG percentage. Good news is we kept Hunt at 2 fouls. Not sure how that will benefit us, but it should. He went into a shell after his 2nd foul.
As Iâve said all of the last 2 years switching with 2 bigs causes so many matchup issues. But we will continue to do so because our HOF coach is too stubborn
@kjayhawks explain?
switching defense?
We have to play about a perfect game on offense to get 80 in a game.
Down 24 points on three pointers. Hopefully will even out.
@jay4ever said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
@kjayhawks explain?
When you switch at all 5 positions defensively you ask Juan and guards to cover bigs/ask Hunt and KJ to guard the perimeter which leads to open 3s repeatedly.
@Zabudda said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
Down 24 points on three pointers. Hopefully will even out.
I think we still have a fighting chance here, donât believe they will hit 10 3s again in the second half
@Crimsonorblue22 I saw that and it's so f frustrating!
Hunter get your crap all in one bag and Zeke where have you gone to lately.
I thought they said they avg 10 a game (3)
@kjayhawks the only way is to launch and make 3s as well. Fools' gold is real
@Zabudda said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
Hunter get your crap all in one bag and Zeke where have you gone to lately.
Yes run a screen first possession to get Zeke going, he needs open looks and tell Rylan to let it fly. Move the ball inside-outside
Need to quit giving hunt bounce passes
6 of their 3 point shooters only shoot 3s. That's 22 shots from guys not shooting inside the arc. Somehow someway we've got to figure that out.
DaJuan has to play better. Also, trading 3s for 2s will not help.
Hunt and Zeke with all six of our turnovers.
HD reminds me of Lawson on D
Bad trade.
oh boy
Not a fun game to watch
Come on KJ, run that to the rim and jam it home. Draw a foul. Show some attitude.
finally!
There we go
Rylan has that look about him.
Trying not to get too excited.
Do we see maybe a little bit of spark ?- - - Shut down their threes
@SlimShaddy54 we won't - they'll miss, our only hope
a couple more 3s, and we won't look back
Grab the momentum boys and don't let go.
Oh Rylan..
good Grief
Man I'd sure like to know how many chippies this team haas missed right at the rim this year
So, let's be clear -- that was drawn up to perfection.
Execution execution execution.
Hunter gets all the same shots as Toppin but he wants to shoot 50%.
Got our chance to score put more pressure on them -- closer score the tighter those shots fly - - -miss
what did Flory do this time?
Our rebounding is confounding
KJ đŞ
I like the sealing by HD to let Adams getting to the basket
Adams will rack up 20 soon
It's interesting that the things that bite us are often really basic stuff.. Dumb turnovers, missed rebounds... or teams just getting extraordinarily hot.
Nice to see Pollard. Last time I saw his face it was a framed signed picture in a tailor shop in Bangkok. I asked the owner about the picture and he said âScotâs great. Lots of fabric.â
KJ playing the game of his life folks
why did Zeke hesitate with 3s today?
I'm starting to like Rylen Griffen. That hug he gave KJ with his head snuggled onto his shoulder was adorable.
LOL, that kids name is Frederiko Federiko!
HD shouldn't've missed the bunny
let's f gooo!
Weak call
Booooo
Here we go Flory!!
Flory! Flory!!
We will be in the bonus by 10 minutes.
Teams foul us a lot because we are not a good free throw shooting team.
It's not often I look on the floor and say I'd rather have their players than ours, but I feel this is the case right now.
What a crap make for williams
@wissox said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
It's not often I look on the floor and say I'd rather have their players than ours, but I feel this is the case right now.
Felt that way most of the time this season
4 on Toppin
How hard is it to throw lobs inside to Flo
@BeddieKU23 garbage possession they have gotten ways with a lot today with some 3s as well
I'm sorry but we just have to take that gamble and get Dickinson back in, he is out and you can take it to the bank they going to Toppin
Both bigs for them with 4. Foul them out
LOL, just a break from basketball. Travis Hunter said playing O and D in football is tougher than Ohtani pitching and batting in baseball.
@jay4ever said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
How hard is it to throw lobs inside to Flo
We haven't ran that middle ball screen to big lob yet.
@BeddieKU23 said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
Both bigs for them with 4. Foul them out
Wow, I'm on radio feed, not sure if they mentioned that, but Toppin with 4 who was putting on a legendary performance today is pretty big.
Oh flory come on
Teams just foul us hard in the paint - It's a strategy. They feel that's a good trade.
But most games, officials haven't been willing to call the fouls consistently. So that's even better because they foul us hard and disrupt the shot and then we might or might not get to the line. Even if we do get to the line, not likely we get 2 points.
Put Hunt back in
Can't make fts or layups
Hunters size making some difference today
Hunts hand is hurt
funny bone maybe...
oh shiii
Looks like Hunter legit got fouled huh? They should review it. Flagrant?
lol
@BeddieKU23 Flory hurting us today horrible ft
There is no such thing as a flagrant foul against Hunter.
two blown 1 and 1's is the difference
@wissox said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
Looks like Hunter legit got fouled huh? They should review it. Flagrant?
Hunter gets fouled a lot with no calls, penalty of being 7â2
that's a foul - pushing while the player getting up - surprised the refs didn't call that
That video was really bad. He was getting mauled.
Lol
Dam Mayo
Kid can't dribble
SMH
Wake the fuck up Zeke
Getting pissed off again.
An absolute must to have Hunter today
The missed opportunities really hurts
HOO HAH
Diggy
Nice drive Rylo!
Defend the f 3s!!!
Unreal
Dammit , getting to late in the game for them to start throwing that crap in again- -just can't get that break
Crappy officiating again. They just pummeled Hunter and KJ under the basket no call. Then two guys going for the ball and its a foul on KJ
We need clutch performers.
The guy has 4 fouls! Go at him Hunt.
Time to be the grittier team.
Watch after that BS call they come down and hit another three -- Watch
Zeke is a no show again
What are we doing?
How to lose a game. Exhibit A
Not today. The 2nd season is ova
Oh man a bad time to go brain dead
We can NOT have Dickinson shooting ill advised three at this point of the game.- - bye , bye momentum
6 free pts under 5 min to go
Wow not a stretch here silly shot by hunt early in the clock.
I don't think these guys are mentally strong.
Holy crap -- is he trying to throw the game ?
We have a big out there with 4 fouls and you shoot outside shots.
Brain dead
Zekes been brain dead for a while now
Zeke is completely useless today
Stand around offense is not working
@kjayhawks COMPLETELY
We got lucky on the double dribble.
KJ ELEVEN REBOUNDS TODAY- -KJ -- Nineteen points and Eleven rebounds
Radio says they're constantly fouling hunter
illegal screening by 33
Game of the year for KJ
Just need to play well for three minutes
wow! Adams is a stud today
More of that would be nice.
And NO MORE TT 3s
Nice play adams on both ends
Kj kickin a$$
KJ playing the game of his life folks
Have to get a stop out this timeout
KJ just playing his ass off- - Hello Zeke ?
I'm scared @stupidmichael
Tech hits a record of 40s 3s against KU
I think we should find @dynomitehawk and invite him back. He brought the energy we need.
Iâm so frustrated with Zeke today, feel like he has had some of the worst turnovers at the worst time
Of course they have a record day
Kinda hate that hunter got that last tip on the pass cuz he gets burned out there 99 time out a hundred. Good time for the hedge to work though
Sadly, that's what we'll see this season. Opps will just let it fly from downtown going forward.
Need some 70th anniversary magic.
F Zeke, what's up boy!
Toppin gonzo
Make the FTâs Hunt.
Zeke had chance to lift the roof off
Wave the wheat
OT?
No OT, lets win this now.
So tired of those 3s
Doh!!!
he's fould
Hanni calling for a foul.
Lol
KJ hustling
New era: shoot 3âs when wide open and guys make them
Our old era; proceed to throw it down low to Hunter where heâs heavily guarded - it is heavily physical (less likely to call fouls late in game) and he misses two bunnies but they were heavily contested
We can't force them to shoot FTs. Got to foul them 3 times.
Have to make a 3. Dumb announcer
They should have put Hunt on the line last time.
put Diggy dogey in
Hahahaha what an idiot
oh boy, Harris
Oh jeez
The fact we left them wide open for 3 late is yet again another disaster Self masterclass!
Didnât scout it - didnât adjust at half - just âfools fools hope they missâ
Hey nice d2 leaving ur feet nice pass
Senior mistake.
NO
Hahahaha
20th year senior!
Hope the wheels stay on the wagon âŚ, nope
Our 6th year senior makes a freshman move. GTFO Juan
KJ's best game. DaJuans worst. Same game
Losing these last 3 to finish 10-10 baby!
But d2 just WINS CAUSE DADDY SELF TOLD
ME
YALL ARE DUMB AND OUR COACH IS TOAST
At least the end is near for having to deal with that anymore
first TO for Dajuan
TF with this, time to go fishing...
Travesty
Pretty bad call
Bhahaha
Garbage.
That was a terrible call
Shouldn't need the refs.
DEI hire?
@kjayhawks MAYBE IF HE WAS QUICK HOOKED WHEN HE DID IT FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS
LIKE SELF DOES TO STORR OR GRIFFIN
MAYBE JUST MAYBE D2 would improve!
The core 3 zero standard or accountability cause daddy self plays favorites - such a sawft dude
How about a good old fashioned make up call, ref?
Totally a make up
Turnover incoming
Lol
Is that how we practice it?
Good call
Like I said turnover
What was that???
Fucking Zeke why
Hahahahaha
Oh Mayo,
Omg zeke
I hate this team
Zeke Mayo cost us this game period, stupid shots and. Turnovers all game
F'n Zeke choke.
Where is Diggy??
Well, we are ranked appropriately.
Dig should have been out there
He sinks the 3 after the buzzer goes off.
Hilarious game
This started when Hunter got fouled, we were tied. Refs no call, they make the game winning 3. Then we started making the mistakes.
Ha! Makes the 3 after time runs out!. 2-10 beyond the arc. We traded 2s for 3s all day. At least they didnât roll over and give up early on but same result. We are losing out this year, hate it
Two playes played beyond poorly in this game. Flory getting Schooled all day- - & ZEKE- -where do you begin
Team is incapable of wining a close game
Not sure Zekes minutes today but I bet it was over 30 and killed us
I guess this is the poorest executing team I've seen Self put on the floor.
One step closer to turning the page. We got 4 games left
Press actually looked good at the end
@kuballin10 who in the hell you showin up to rag on today-- know you been waiting with baited breath
@bskeet said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
I guess this is the poorest executing team I've seen Self put on the floor.
Hilarious given the fact that they're the oldest team in college basketball
Houston is going to crush their souls Monday. It's going to be sad
The inexplicable meltdown in the last 30 seconds. Still had a timeout I think. Could Bill have called a quick one before Zeke launched that shot? I still want that foul called on the Hunter shot though.
@kjayhawks No it was one of Bill 3 favorites- - just ask kuballin he will tell you
Honestly this is not a terrible loss, itâs just hard to lose games in the matter we do. Tied 73-73, we donât guard the 3 point line and Zeke has two turnovers. At this point he canât be in there late in games he cost us the Houston game and this one.
Tech made 3 less 3âs than we attempted all game.
KJ played the best game he could possibly played and we lost because the guard group is horrible
At least they showed good energy in that second half. Iâd be curious what the plus minus of the three big line up in the first half did to usâŚ
Too many inexplicable mistakes down the stretch. Iâm
@kjayhawks On the surface it's not terrible. But it's the third loss this season in AFH... A place we had a 90% wining record and allegedly the highest home court advantage of any sport. And it was a historic day for the field house.. And it was March.
So, yeah. I think it was terrible.
DeJuan lost the Houston game by missing 2 free throws with 17 seconds left and a SIX point lead.
Today he had nearly as many turnovers as points.
@bskeet said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
DeJuan lost the Houston game by missing 2 free throws with 17 seconds left and a SIX point lead.
Today he had nearly as many turnovers as points.
Some unforgivable effort on the turnovers. Barely running back to defend. Horrendous
Juan had 6 pts 1 to, 7 assists, 5 boards, 1 steal,
Ok, not quite as bad as I thought.. but not great given he's the veteran..
@kjayhawks I like the way you're thinking here. I hope lightning strikes twice.
And why is it that teams and players seem to have record games against us on the regular?
Threeâs shotâŚ..Self for the love of what is good - please retire. Gonna complete wreck DP and waste his year in college while we run diggy at pg
Them - 43
Us - 18
@rcjhdraft said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
@bskeet said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
I guess this is the poorest executing team I've seen Self put on the floor.
Hilarious given the fact that they're the oldest team in college basketball
Insanity - running the same 3 back out there and expecting different results!!!
Insanity - never recruiting over the pg or 4 man!
Insanity - telling us our eyes are deceptive, we donât know ball and they are actually good!
@bskeet said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
@kjayhawks I like the way you're thinking here. I hope lightning strikes twice.
And why is it that teams and players seem to have record games against us on the regular?
Teams have always given us their best shot, what happens when you are a blue blood. Kids grow up around the country saying 3âŚ2âŚ1 shot and they beat Kansas.
@kjayhawks We trailed pretty much the entire game - had this been a neutral court or road game weâd lost by 15-18
Not sure how on earth u are positive
Houston will pound us
We will get beat by zona
Lose 1st or 2nd big 12 game
Lose 1st or 2nd round in ncaaâs
What a season by our senior basketball team
Iâm gonna have nightmares of Zekes turnovers and that shit with 9 seconds to go with two guys in his face smh. Gosh that was one the stupidest plays Iâve seen in a good while.
@kuballin10 we will beat Arizona
We shot 52% the first half and were down double digits âŚ.because ya know one team understands basketball and the other is living in the 80âs
@kjayhawks Zona is better than techâŚ..
My opinion is that this team's guard play isn't as good as past Kansas/Self teams. If you put Mario Chalmers/Russell Robinson, Tyshawn Taylor/Elijah Johnson, Frank Mason/Devonte Graham, Devon Dotson/Marcus Garrett on this team, then we immediately become a top 10, maybe top 5 team.
Darryn Peterson is a good start for next season, but we will need probably a couple more good guards if we want to be a top 10 team.
Awesome game from KJ today btw. Too bad it was wasted.
@KirkIsMyHinrich Self will ruin it
New heights these last two years is brutal
He canât evaluate guards
Gonna surround Peterson with some overrated dudes, run this archaic offense where we feed the post and never fastbreak
Itâs the same trash every year and it only worked with 3-4 year system guys
Bill - you are done - please quit
KJ did have a great game. His hustle was awesome.
@kuballin10 said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
@KirkIsMyHinrich Self will ruin it
New heights these last two years is brutal
He canât evaluate guards
Gonna surround Peterson with some overrated dudes, run this archaic offense where we feed the post and never fastbreak
Itâs the same trash every year and it only worked with 3-4 year system guys
Bill - you are done - please quit
I would say let Self keep coaching, but a shake up to the assistant coaching staff and a maybe a GM is needed to help evaluate talent and get the right player fit and roster construction. Especially if we're going to be so heavily reliant on the transfer portal to fill out the roster.
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
My opinion is that this team's guard play isn't as good as past Kansas/Self teams. If you put Mario Chalmers/Russell Robinson, Tyshawn Taylor/Elijah Johnson, Frank Mason/Devonte Graham, Devon Dotson/Marcus Garrett on this team, then we immediately become a top 10, maybe top 5 team.
Darryn Peterson is a good start for next season, but we will need probably a couple more good guards if we want to be a top 10 team.
Awesome game from KJ today btw. Too bad it was wasted.
Spot on my friend, if this team had Ochai and Braun or Graham and Svi, itâs a national championship caliber club.
@KirkIsMyHinrich He wonât listen to those guys anyways
The issue is Self
@wissox said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
@Texas-Hawk-10 PD on Saturday? What kind of school district you work for?
Not a mandatory one, something I needed to work towards my GT certification so I can at least show my admin I'm being proactive even though I have no desire to teach GT long term. I prefer working with my SpEd kids much more, but since I'm the only teacher in my content this year, I have to teach all subpops this year.
Basically sacrificing 6 hours to keep admin off my back.
Want to give a shout out to KJ. He battled his tail off out there and I hate that we lost.
But quite simply..the guard play just isnât good enough. I feel like you could reasonably say this is the worst guard group talent wise weâve had in almost 20 years.
@kjayhawks yes, he does not seem to play well at the end of games. His inbounding during the Houston double OT game is exhibit 1
Worst game for Zeke today as a Jayhawk
@bskeet just checked the box score , I think you might want to re think about Juan. -- Zeke was much , worse - -horrible, This was not Juan- -it was Zeke.
Stat lines : -- Juan- -3/7 fg- - Zeke - -1/7 fg- - - Juan - -5 rebounds------Zeke - 3 rebounds - -Juan-- -7 assists - -- Zeke-- -1 assist- - -- -Juan-- -1 steal -- -Zeke -- -1 steal-- - -Juan --- one turnover- -- Zeke - - -5 turnovers - - -& Juan- - -6 points-- -- -Zeke -- 5 points
Think we need to look more at Zeke with the costly game -- then Juan.-- -If anything Diggy should of come in for Zeke
@SlimShaddy54 I donât think Juan terrible today Iâd rate him at C on the grade scale. He over helped several times on defense leading to open treys. I didnât think he was aggressive enough offensively. Several times he couldâve shot good open 3s but passed them up repeatedly on a day we really needed some outside scoring. Zeke and AJ IMO were the two guys that cost us big time today. Zeke played 31 minutes 5 points, 3 rebounds, 1 assist and a killer of 5 turnovers. A guy with his experience and skill set canât have that kind of output against a good team and us still win.
Sorry not sorry I missed this one
This one was painful but not Houston painful.
Zeke Mayo has been getting death threats and racist messages since the game mentioned. Can't read the article but saw the headline in the KCStar.
@wissox That is horrible. Yes, he did not play well today, but I am sure he knows it and is beating himself up enough as it is. It is just a game!! There is no place where this is OK! It seems like we are going backwards with respect to being civilized. I feel like I am living in the Twilight Zone.
Uncivilized bullies!
I honestly am surprised this late in the season self doesnât have them on lockdown from social media to focus on the task at hand.
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Accountability between teammates is huge
Not so fun with the box score!
I may just leave it at one stat today. Horribly, inexcusably, game-alteringly glaring.
3PT%
Texas Tech (just the first half!!!!!) 10-24 -- 41.7%
Texas Tech (total) -- 15-43 -- 34.9%
KU (total) 4-18 -- 22.2%
Bill Self may be the most stubborn man on the planet. Switching and doubling down low is and has been killing us for years. Guys are just WIDE open on the perimeter. Are Athletic Directors allowed to have a come to jesus chat with coaches???
@rockchalkjayhawk Yep been saying it for two years, itâs like he forgot 2018 ever happened
OH, and JT Toppin...wow. I actually thought Flory would be the perfect defender against him. He was awesome. Jeez.
@kjayhawks said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
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Accountability between teammates is huge
They donât make too many Frank Mason types anymoreâŚ
This is easily the most anemic team Iâve experienced at KU. Even before Self. But I will give a huge shoutout for KJ today. This loss wasnât on him.
It didnât look like we felt like playing today. Anyone else sense that? I watched a lot of college ball today and all those teams were more excited than our guys. I donât think we were going to beat anyone today.
We still havenât learned that Hunter belongs in the low post.
So much for our new seasonâŚ
@drgnslayr I honestly thought we played pretty decent for much of the game outside of Zeke. He just looked like he was on a different planet today. Several other guys had hustle plays, KJ had about 10 himself. Our defensive game plan was pure garbage IMO
@wissox on this game from today ?-- Granted terrible game but come on , I don't care if it was for todays game or ANY GAME that's BD. It's just one of those Seasons , werer just down, but to threaten someone over a game of Basketball is someone just showing their total ass
@wissox I think as someone mentioned above during the game, we are kinda in purgatory for KU basketball. We donât have the most athletic team and best player on the court most of the time and havenât for 2 or 3 years. From 1984-2022 95% of the games we played we had the better player and better team. We didnât always win but if you put Techs team together with ours. I think only KJ if he plays the way he did today and Hunt are the only guys that see the floor. Their guards absolutely put a clinic on ours by a wide margin. Which doesnât look good going forward. IMO you canât win a title without great guards, having a dominant post player helps but the guards control the game and have the ball more.
@kjayhawks said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
We donât have the most athletic team
This is quite an indictment on Self and the staff after last year's pledge to go and get some athletes and depth...
We played a quality opponent today. So, not a total shame to lose. But at home, i expect us to win them all.
I'd guess we all agree that two things stood out today: Defending the 3 pt line, and Zeke's poor play.
It wasn't a piss poor effort, but the above items made it look worse.
@SlimShaddy54 said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
@bskeet how many turnovers did Mayo have --& how many points did Mayo have ?
He didn't play well today. And given that he didn't seem his best most of the game, probably not a great idea to ride him for as many minutes as we did and to have him in at crunch time. That's on the coaches.
Zeke cares, though. He's a Lawrence kid who grew up wanting to be a Jayhawk... Lord knows he cares. I think his issue is he cares so much he's putting too much pressure on himself. Many of his mistakes are fumbles or getting out over the skis and losing control. That's cognitive load issues.
He certainly does not deserve the barrage of hateful and racist comments, although I'm sure that's not coming from true KU fans.
Missed the game. The crowd got a T for throwing a water bottle on the court? What gives? Normally the crowd is more educated than that - tempting as it may be.
@dylans said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
Missed the game. The crowd got a T for throwing a water bottle on the court? What gives? Normally the crowd is more educated than that - tempting as it may be.
They got a warning for throwing a water bottle on the court after a bad foul call on Rylan.
Self sent out a note that was posted on Instagram last night. I think this was unprecedented.
All of it following a disappointing loss after a disappointing season where people are losing their sh*t because they don't know how to lose. It's all felt unprecedented.
I don't like to lose. But it is part of the game. You win some; you lose some.
@bskeet I donât condone the actions of the messages sent to Zeke. But they been proven to be burner accounts one linked to Mizzou. The whole thing just screams Charmin Ultra soft to me and the statement from Self makes it worse IMO. They shouldnât be on social media to begin with.
@kjayhawks i see
Hereâs hoping for a better senior night!
I guess for the NBA fans out there the Jayhawks are the equivalent of a 49 win team. I would not expect big things this March.
I live in Ohio, and I'm sorry, but it's become obvious to me that a LOT of Kansas fans under 30 are spoiled brats. I think the fact that they are also Chiefs fans makes this worse. They haven't really experienced losing, so they can't handle it. Mix the age, the keyboard warrior mentality, the media-driven modern win it all or you are just a loser narrative, and it's a mess.
@BigBad said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
I live in Ohio, and I'm sorry, but it's become obvious to me that a LOT of Kansas fans under 30 are spoiled brats. I think the fact that they are also Chiefs fans makes this worse. They haven't really experienced losing, so they can't handle it. Mix the age, the keyboard warrior mentality, the media-driven modern win it all or you are just a loser narrative, and it's a mess.
Very true at this point in the season if you expect much outta this group, you are showing you lack of basketball knowledge. Itâs a bad year and it stinks for sure but we were statistically due to not even make the tournament. Iâve been frustrated a lot but I have hope with Peterson coming in we can get back to Kansas basketball as soon as next season. I set a goal of winning 20 games and making the tournament as the ceiling and realistic goal for this bunch.
Long way from faces change, expectations donâtâŚ
Everything is insane. Kansas has a down year and bill self releases a statement. St. Johnâs wins a REGULAR season title and act like they win the national championship
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Couple of questions here:
1. Is this roster not equipped to play modern basketball or has the game passed Self by? (Refusing to accept the 3 pointers arenât fools gold and need to be shot and defended)
Is there any chance you could rename this site "KU Endzone" since many of us are now more interested in the oval ball than the round one?
@nuleafjhawk said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
Is there any chance you could rename this site "KU Endzone" since many of us are now more interested in the oval ball than the round one?
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I still have zero passion for KU football. No way I get anywhere near that bothered about KU football losing even all their games. KU basketball loses a few games and it bothers me greatly. Cost of being a fan.
Barring a plane crash like WSU I would never shed a tear for KU football. Look at all the crying on here about KU basketball. đ
@dylans different strokes..... I mean, for years I felt that way too. But since LL has been here, there's a glimmer of hope. If you're a KU fan, even a mediocre (not talking about you) fan - you were excited for football last year for the first time in a WHILE. It didn't pan out like we wanted, but it still was good to have some anticipation. I feel that way about this coming season. Basketball - I'm used to total domination and being a meh team has no interest to me at all.
Word of advise (take it or leave it, Iâm far from infallible). Temper your expectations for KU football to reduce the disappointment. I hope the hype is real and I feel as though the program is building in the correct way. I still wonât be surprised by a meh season - more than 2 losses eliminates KU from a meaningful postseason game. Since thatâs what I expect, it wonât bother me. Those expecting a playoff birth will be disappointed pretty much every year.
If a person did the same thing with KU basketball, imagine the joy you could experience in a year like 2022 instead of expecting it.
@kjayhawks Yeah - no crazy expectations. A good bowl game would be a great step in the right direction.
Not sure it's the roster. We brought in Mayo, Griffen & Coit to shoot the 3 and they do just that. Returnees Harris and Dickinson are not good 3 pt shooters. Storr is shooting career lows across the board (FG, 3pt, FT).
It's how we are getting the looks and the reliance on getting the ball inside to shoot 2's. It's a complete mess.
It's certainly possible we limp into the tournament with 13 losses at this stage.
@BeddieKU23 I sometimes feel like we donât let the guys shoot enough or look to score from the outside is some of the issue. You can play inside-out to generate good looks from distance. I still think half of our guys looked terrified to shoot the ball. Interesting stat on Twitter, said this will be our worst season since 83 and that is also the last time we lost a home game in the month of March. 42 straight senior days will be on the line Saturday.
@BigBad said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
I live in Ohio, and I'm sorry, but it's become obvious to me that a LOT of Kansas fans under 30 are spoiled brats. I think the fact that they are also Chiefs fans makes this worse. They haven't really experienced losing, so they can't handle it. Mix the age, the keyboard warrior mentality, the media-driven modern win it all or you are just a loser narrative, and it's a mess.
This isn't just fans under 30. There are a lot of older fans as well, that have no clue how to handle a down year. This has been brutal on the floor, but I'd argue our fans off the floor have been far more embarrassing.
Oh yeah that's certainly a real thing. When players at KU play with confidence you can see it. There's very little of it these days. It's time for a reset on many fronts after this season
The Captain Obvious people have pointed to Mayo for this loss. He did have probably his worst game ever as a Jayhawk. But to point blame?
First... fan send him threatening messages... Really? If you can't smell a purple kitty or mizzou tig doing this, then you haven't been a Hawk fan long enough to know the stunts pulled.
Throw out Mayo's 5 TOs, and add a few more makes on his stats... we still would have lost because we never adjusted to what they were doing. Our on-ball screen defense is easily the worst I've ever seen under Self. Anyone remember what he used to teach? Heck.. they used to never switch and our guys fought through screens so hard opponents gave up running them because their arms would get beat down so hard. And now? I watched this game and I could see our screen defenders getting beat on screens a full two seconds before the screen. They were never setup to beat screens. So we switched... and our switch defense was horrific. Hunter continually got slaughtered.
To make all of our woes intensified our weakside defensive help is horrendous. Basically, we have 4 guys playing most the game in "no mans' land" not guarding anyone, then get murdered on the trey. Even worse... these same teams drive right past our interior with 4 to 5 players like they aren't even there, and make a layup or get fouled.
This is so painful to watch. I can't wait for this season to be over. I'm thinking of having a frontal lobotomy to try to remove my memory bank from this year. It's challenging everything I ever thought of Self and his KU teams.
Do I blame Self? I know many of you disagree... but yes, I blame Self more than players.
@Woodrow You just have to understand it happens everywhere, but people don't want to hear that. Look how good U Conn has been in the last what ?- - --I will give them the benefit of the doubt- -like ten years? - -Well where they at now -this year they sure the hell not in any bette spot having lost nine- -ten games and in like third or fourth in the Big East -- It cycles-- it's going to happen TO EVERYONE. Sooner or later it's coming
With the way the Portal and the way it's become , how the NIL has become a factor and turned it all into a big Meat Market ,it has made it as to where the better talented players are becoming more evenly dispersed it's changed the playing field.
Certain Colleges still me actually have a richer history , and remain a blueblood if that College might not have that strong of belief in the NIL and or refuse to just throw money around as much- - then bigger brand school or not they will lose out to the more talented player in a lot of cases These players- - these more talented players are going where they are going to get paid more money whether they actually feel the other school less NIL is Still a better school- - -they taking that better deal.
Do you seriously believe that if all things equal straight across the board you can seriously sit there and actually say that players like AJ Bantysia the # 1 ranked recruit coming in next year if BYU hadn't tossed all that money at him , you seriously believe he would of still committed to BYU ?- -If you do then I call BS.- -do you think if KSU hadn't offered Coleman Hawkins the money they did, he still would of went there anyway ?-- Ya ?- -ok lmao. Again the talented id more spread out..
Back to the cycling where all schools or biggest majority of them go through cycles of down years and it's just going to het worse with the distrubution of players across the Nation now- Big reason people see it more badly like with KU - -A Lot bigger brand-- blueblood , Historty- -when we have down year- -years when cycling people just can't grasp reality.
Look at Kentucky ? Huge Brand Name School - -blue blood of blue bloods - -down years , always loaded with 5 * players and portal players , what are they doing this year ?- -hoovering around with eight nine losses- - - cycling, you don't think they won't er back ? -What about N Carolina ? - -Cycling Do these teams just suck ?- -umm no , it's the other Schools now getting better elite players also. Your not ever gonna see anything again like what KU did with winning so many dam conferences i a row. You'll neve come close to ever seeing a dynasty like UCla had- -It's just got a lot harder with the Portal and NIL
@SlimShaddy54 maybe. Or maybe small school donors get tired of shelling out big money for recruits if it doesnt translate to success.
I agree with you in principle but the dust hasnt settled. We will see if new normalized behavior leads to a competitive advantage for the more motivated basketball schools.
@approxinfinity Hopefully that doesnât just mean the SEC donors realize itâs cheaper to have good basketball than football and decide to do both! This year is bothersome in that aspect.
@approxinfinity Well that's what I like , everyone can have their own opinions/views makes the world go round
It is crazy fans have gone after players after games with threats etc and that's not right at all. I guess we no longer have the prim and proper fanbase, we have examples now of our fans acting the same way as fanbases we loath.
It would be nice to know what thought process Mayo had on that shot.. That was a bad take. Was that the play drawn up out of the timeout?
How many years have we been running the switching defense now? How many times Saturday did David Coit get stuck on a guy 1 ft+ taller than him and that possession ended up negatively for KU, seemed like a lot not just in the former but that our switching defense created poor defensive matchups that were exploited.
Lack of adjustment to Tech shooting 3's and help defense has been a pretty systemic issue this year (Creighton, BYU among examples).
@drgnslayr Well you have all the right to have your opinion , that's what great about America, freedom of Choice- -speech - -opinion, I respect that. No one says we have to agree on everything , healthy discussion , well for most of us it's healthy , there are some that they just want to rag no matter what. - Hell we could go 30-0 and they would still find something to bitch about or someone to bitch about- - must be really miserable to be like that.
Nothing wrong with how you feel or believe/think again doesn't mean we have to agree with everything -- it's all good.
We all have opinions-- views , thing is NO ON can say absolutely 100 % for sure what is wrong for sure, it can be a mixture of all things mentioned. No matte though at the end of the day/year I will still be a Jay Hawk fan for life.- Difference between a Real fan and a Closet fan - - you only see closet fans thumpin their chest when things are going good - -a REAL fan sticks with the team through Good times and bad times-- not saying by any means your a closet fan - -just saying buddy - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG
@drgnslayr It's better to have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. So I hear.
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@BigBad said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
I live in Ohio, and I'm sorry, but it's become obvious to me that a LOT of Kansas fans under 30 are spoiled brats. I think the fact that they are also Chiefs fans makes this worse. They haven't really experienced losing, so they can't handle it. Mix the age, the keyboard warrior mentality, the media-driven modern win it all or you are just a loser narrative, and it's a mess.
This isn't just fans under 30. There are a lot of older fans as well, that have no clue how to handle a down year. This has been brutal on the floor, but I'd argue our fans off the floor have been far more embarrassing.
I think a lot of it is our experience and preseason ranking, most of us were fine with down years in 2005, 2009, 2014, 2019 and 2023. The manor in which we lose is also super frustrating for the most experienced team in CBB. If we just wouldâve had our head outta our asses we could easily be sitting at 24-5 and tonightâs game would be deciding the B12.
@kjayhawks said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
@Woodrow said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
@BigBad said in Lets go 3-0 on the new season:
I live in Ohio, and I'm sorry, but it's become obvious to me that a LOT of Kansas fans under 30 are spoiled brats. I think the fact that they are also Chiefs fans makes this worse. They haven't really experienced losing, so they can't handle it. Mix the age, the keyboard warrior mentality, the media-driven modern win it all or you are just a loser narrative, and it's a mess.
This isn't just fans under 30. There are a lot of older fans as well, that have no clue how to handle a down year. This has been brutal on the floor, but I'd argue our fans off the floor have been far more embarrassing.
I think a lot of it is our experience and preseason ranking, most of us were fine with down years in 2005, 2009, 2014, 2019 and 2023. The manor in which we lose is also super frustrating for the most experienced team in CBB. If we just wouldâve had our head outta our asses we could easily be sitting at 24-5 and tonightâs game would be deciding the B12.
The teams you mentioned were seeded : 3,3,2,4, and 1.
You are kind of making my point. The fact that KU fans consider those down years is funny. Shit happens. UNC was a preseason number 1 and missed the tournament.
giving up 10 offensive rebounds - -8 turnovers and were tied
@kjayhawks Ol Roy didn't give a shit about UNC either. Until he left us for them.
Maybe these guys can come out now at the end of the Season and just play loose--- play free, might be what they need. -Just go out and play--- play free-- loose. If you go on a winning streak-- Great surprise people , let the doubters doubt. And if you lose- -you lose, nobody at this point is expecting you to do anything anyways so there you go.
Just play guys- -play loose- - play free-- and dammit have some fun- -this is a game you love , your suppose to enjoy what you do , instead of having to worry about any fricken Death threats --or having racial slurs thrown at you or any of that crap from some brainless idiots- screw that.-- Just try and remember back to the time when you was out doing the thing you do love- - playing Basketball--enjoy- let fly,
I mean these times are going to be the very lst time many of you are going to be that last time you ever play for KU again- -just go and tear it up - -loose guys be proud remember you play for a Blue Blood of all Blue Bloods you play for the Kansas Jay Hawks Represent guys- -and good luck.- - ROCK CHALK BABY ALL DAY LONG