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Carlton Bragg Arrested
Dec 09, 2016 03:20 PM #1

For domestic battery according to posters on the Phog. Does not seem fake. Happened around 6am this morning.

ooking#: 16-10648 Date/Time: 2016-12-09 05:54 CHRINumber: 254851
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254851 Name:
CARLTON EDWARD BRAGG DOB:
12/14/1995 Address:
1741 NAISMITH DR #365 , Lawrence , 66045
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BPCA Arrest by:
Russell T Loc of arrest:
111 E 11TH ST Agency:
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1 Date:
2016-12-08 01:00 Statute:
8278 - Domestic battery; Knowing or reckless bodily harm to family member Disp:
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Dec 09, 2016 03:42 PM #2

@BShark very hard for me to believe!

Dec 09, 2016 03:50 PM #3

hmmmmm, not sure what to think about this - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Dec 09, 2016 03:55 PM #4

Just read off Matt Scott's twitter account - -shows the same thing, he tweeted -- -if it looks like a raT and smells like a rat - -saw the record of Bragg on there too - - just don't know ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Dec 09, 2016 04:01 PM #5

Has not been charged yet, I believe. Self will sort out this mess, but I doubt he plays tomorrow.

Dec 09, 2016 04:08 PM #6

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article119896743.html β†—

According to the article, still being held at the moment.

Dec 09, 2016 04:20 PM #7

If family is giving you a rough time, just walk away. Put distance in between. Call for help. Tell teammates and coaches how you are feeling.

Carlton obviously got upset, but this is the kind of stuff that ruins careers. Look at Ray Rice now. Reinstated by the NFL, but nobody touched him this year, even though he pledged to donate 100% of his 2016 salary wherever he signs.

Dec 09, 2016 04:26 PM #8

Ray Rice not being good at football anymore had a lot to do with that as well.

I do think this all but assures Bragg will not be in the NBA next year. He not only has to play better, but also needs to show he can keep his personal life together as well.

Dec 09, 2016 04:26 PM #9

I believe domestic battery can be w/a teammate if you live w/them. I knew some guy who hit a roommate and thats what he was charged w/.

Dec 09, 2016 04:26 PM #10

Well here comes the unlikely rise of Lightfoot.

Dec 09, 2016 04:27 PM #11

This makes me sick!

Dec 09, 2016 04:27 PM #12

@Crimsonorblue22

I pray that this wasn't something horrible with a woman.

Dec 09, 2016 04:28 PM #13

@RockChalkRedlock

Gonna see some Mitch and Dwight tomorrow for sure.

Dec 09, 2016 04:43 PM #14

@BShark I'm hoping too.. I know how people's minds can race, but I agree with you 100 % just gonna have to hold on a little for more to come out. I think the WORST possible would be his mother - - see how minds race, any woman for that matter He is getting more and more things against him jumping to the N.B.A next year -- his bad play although was starting to see signs of possibly coming out of that, now this - -how long does this affect him? will this become a distraction to the team? - - - Wish nothing but the best for Bragg, just got to get it together. - - AS ALWAYS JAYHAWK FOR LIFE - - ahh, you like how I changed my ending? lol - -changed my profile pic too

Dec 09, 2016 04:51 PM #15

@jayballer54 his mother wouldn't be at a sorority house

Dec 09, 2016 04:59 PM #16

If you've ever seen a professional/major college athlete up close, which I know we all have, these guys are absolutely physically intimidating. I shudder to think what it must be like to face an angry person who is 6'8" and conditioned like Carlton is.

I hope, not for KU basketball sakes, but for Carlton's and whomever he is involved with that nothing happened. If something did happen, I hope he never steps foot on the court at AFH, but that he gets it together completely to make some money as an NBA player, overseas player, plumber, banker or whatever.

Dec 09, 2016 04:59 PM #17

https://twitter.com/themattgalloway β†—

Dec 09, 2016 04:59 PM #18

Oh man, what terrible terrible timing.

I dont know what happened, I wasnt there. Therefore I will not pass judgement on the kid.

One thing I do know is that Bragg is not the first player to get in trouble for something like this here at KU. Everyone remember Mario Little?

Im not condoning physical violence, at all. Especially against Women!

But Bragg is still just a kid, he has a chance to learn from this and be a better man for it. He'll have to take his punishment like an adult. He'll have to do some serious introspecting.

I feel bad for all involved here.

Dec 09, 2016 05:02 PM #19

Very very foolish of Bragg, Obviously innocent til proven guilty but just not smart on his part for putting himself in that situation. He also could just be falsely accused, its like our parents used to say nothing good happens after midnight. I'm sure he had some sort of curfew with it being in the season.

Dec 09, 2016 05:12 PM #20

@BShark Geez Louise ....coach is going to kick his ass...

Dec 09, 2016 05:17 PM #21

The first question I have is what was Carlton doing being out at 6am?

Nothing good happens late at night. I'd like to know the team policy... team curfew in constant effect?

What family members does Carlton have in Lawrence? A sibling or mother? I doubt his mother was up at 6am...

I know this is a distraction to the team, but this may be the best circumstances for Carlton and the team. It exposes that he has "stuff" going on outside of basketball that doesn't appear to be positive for his basketball future. It has been clear this season that Carlton has not been really plugged in to basketball. His focus hasn't been 100% basketball.

The young man needs some counseling on priorities (as do pretty much every young man and woman).

I hope this results in sobering thought for young Carlton. I remain optimistic that Carlton/coaches/team will turn this into something positive. Struggle tends to stimulate growth.

Dec 09, 2016 05:18 PM #22

@kjayhawks so were any of you guys out after midnight when you were young and after finals? Guilty here! Let's hear the whole story, Bragg is the last one I expected to hear this kind of story about.

Dec 09, 2016 05:31 PM #23

@betterfireE didn't seem to bother Tareek Hill much.....

Dec 09, 2016 05:37 PM #24

@Crimsonorblue22 No, I was a perfect little angel. I never went to the Hawk ( especially on Friday afternoon), never drank schooners, never went to Ichabod's Monday night Drink and Drown night, or anything of the sort. I was never at Jayhawk Towers when Darnell Valentine happened to use the elevator and 3 or 4 BIg KU fans, completely wasted fans by the way, happened to get on the same elevator, and proceeded to completely freak out Darnell Valentine, who couldn't wait to get off the elevator. No, that wasn't me.

Dec 09, 2016 05:40 PM #25

A pitcher who pitched the Cubs to the World Series on the 1 year anniversary of a domestic violence act which involved terrorizing his wife with a gun recently signed with the Yankees for something like 86 million dollars. Maybe Carlton saw two high profile major league teams turn a blind eye to domestic violence and figured it wasn't that big of a deal.

Dec 09, 2016 05:41 PM #26

@wissox no way!

Dec 09, 2016 05:42 PM #27

@KUSTEVE I never did any of that stuff either. In fact...... It sounds as if we must have had exactly the same type of experience at KU.

Dec 09, 2016 05:44 PM #28

I believe he was arrested at 1:am. He cannot be released until seeing a magistrate who looks over the charge..

Regardless this isn't a good look for Carlton who from all accounts is a good kid. Until all the facts are released we should wait and see.. I hope this is a good learning experience for Carlton and isn't serious enough where it jeopardizes his position with the team or his good-standing relationship with Bill.

Dec 09, 2016 05:48 PM #29

@wissox "conditioned like Carlton is" what heck is that supposed to mean.

@drgnslayr "what was Carlton doing being out at 6am" He was arrested at that time, doesn't mean he was out until then.

All of us fans should not speculate so early. I always hate to see people going after people with little information. Damning others before facts can speak volumes about ones character. Don't be that guy. Just be patient and hope for the best.

Dec 09, 2016 05:51 PM #30

@Crimsonorblue22 didn't see where it said it happened at a sorority house

Dec 09, 2016 06:02 PM #31

@RockChalkRedlock

Good point... but I doubt the police came to his dorm and pulled him out of bed. However... could have.

You are right, not to judge yet. The facts aren't all in.

I don't see this as an "end of the world" scenario. Quite the opposite. It may end up exposing some issues that were also bleeding onto the court.

Dec 09, 2016 06:03 PM #32

Key words from the available reports:

"suspicion" of domestic battery against a family member.

"HAS NOT" not yet been charged...

So, let's wait until all the information is in before commenting; we still have that pesky presumption of innocence until proven guilty.

Having said this, I disagree he is still a kid, he is a week away from turning 21; a grown man, in my opinion.

Dec 09, 2016 06:04 PM #33

Like I've read on other sites PEOPLE let's not judge to harsly till we know the situation. A family member doesn't mean it necessarily mean it was a woman -- -could of been a brother, maybe giving him smack about how he has been playing and it just reached a boiling point with Bragg - -we. certainly hope it wasn't a woman - -no excuse for that I have read comments about people wanting him kicked off the team, get rid of him - -seriously?, that's a little much IF and again that's a big IF, then Coach self will get it taken care of, but to kick him off the team - - umm no. They still don't even know if they going to press charges yet and we got people wanting him kicked off the team holy shit. Let's see how this comes out before we be the Judge, jury and convictioner.

If it was a woman then he will have to pay for his actions - -the key is, this is just getting out we have got to wait before we judge, I'm not talking about my friends here but just as an over all view. ALWAYS A JAYHAWK

Dec 09, 2016 06:05 PM #34

@JayHawkFanToo yep - can't really make any excuses at this point

Dec 09, 2016 06:12 PM #35

@JayHawkFanToo

"Having said this, I disagree he is still a kid, he is a week away from turning 21; a grown man, in my opinion."

True... but many of these players have had lopsided upbringings. Many of the lessons they should have received often didn't happen because sports overshadowed many key moments that should have been learning experiences.

It is that way for most young prodigies.

And then there are those cases where players grew up too fast, having to face issues that even few adults ever face.

I think it best to not generalize age and maturity in this case.

Dec 09, 2016 06:13 PM #36

Bragg case is "under review" and there is currently no hearing set up with a judge, a Douglas County District Attorney official says.

Dec 09, 2016 06:14 PM #37

@Crimsonorblue22 I'm not saying I didn't get in to trouble but you've got to be smarter as a big time athlete. Lets just see what we find out.

Dec 09, 2016 07:03 PM #38

There is a rumor on Reddit but its not worth sharing for the sake of waiting for all the facts to come out about this situation. If anyone is interested in the rumor check out reddit and search carlton bragg and there's a thread about it going on. I really hope the info one person shared is not in fact true

Dec 09, 2016 07:13 PM #39

@RockChalkRedlock He's a large, physically imposing person. I wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of him.

Dec 09, 2016 07:13 PM #40

@BeddieKU23 I saw it, can't believe it still! I'm waiting

Dec 09, 2016 07:15 PM #41

@Crimsonorblue22

Me too, I will give Carlton the benefit of the doubt until otherwise.

Dec 09, 2016 07:17 PM #42

@wissox he's not that physical on the court

Dec 09, 2016 07:24 PM #43

@Crimsonorblue22 @RockChalkRedlock He's what, 6'10"? Strong. That's physical enough to make him physically imposing to me. On the court he's going up against similarly built and conditioned people.

Dec 09, 2016 07:33 PM #44

@BeddieKU23 said:

There is a rumor on Reddit but its not worth sharing for the sake of waiting for all the facts to come out about this situation. If anyone is interested in the rumor check out reddit and search carlton bragg and there's a thread about it going on. I really hope the info one person shared is not in fact true

Well shit I hope so as well.

Dec 09, 2016 08:13 PM #45

From what I have read about Bragg, this seems out of character. I gave the WVU dude the benefit of the doubt on the flagrant foul and I would be dishonest if I don't do the same with Bragg...at least until all the facts are in.

I am sure Coach Self and staff are on top of the situation and we will have the facts soon enough.

Dec 09, 2016 08:20 PM #46

The charges have been changed to show it is a "misdemeanor battery."

If this is his first charge, the odds are he won't see any jail time and will pay a fine anywhere between $500 and $2500 and then be on probation for a period of time.

http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-defense/violent-crime/simple-assault-battery-kansas.htm β†—

Dec 09, 2016 08:27 PM #47

He will appear in court today at 3pm . Hopefully its nothing, I had a friend get arrested for assault for pushing someone that was dismissed. We can hope its something along those lines, to me it would be stupid to waste tax dollars and time to arrest someone for pushing to start with but that's the way it goes.

Dec 09, 2016 08:47 PM #48

@KUSTEVE then don't! Please

Dec 09, 2016 08:55 PM #49

Like most of you, I don't want to post things that aren't accurate, but here's another Rumer:

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Dec 09, 2016 09:12 PM #50

@tis4tim

Love it!

Dec 09, 2016 09:17 PM #51

Matt Galloway

Heading into Bragg's 3 p.m. hearing now, where recording devices are not permitted. Will update after.

Just got the first page of Carlton Bragg's criminal offense report from the LKPD. Under "type of force/weapon," "personal weapon" checked.

Following up on this: There was a section for "none" under armed, so I would think this mean weapon involved.

Dec 09, 2016 09:18 PM #52

By the way Matt Galloway is a KU beat writer

Dec 09, 2016 09:27 PM #53

Carlton Bragg, appearing on video, pleads not guilty to charge of misdemeanor battery. Bond set at $500 OR. He will be released.

Bragg will be released after bond at 5 or 6 p.m. His next court date is 1:30 p.m. Dec. 27.

Dec 09, 2016 09:30 PM #54

Galloway also reporting:

The offense report indicates Bragg is suspected of using alcohol and drugs or narcotics. It also lists β€œpersonal weapon” as the type of force or weapon used.

Sounding worse by the minute.

Dec 09, 2016 09:35 PM #55

@Fightsongwriter

Personal Weapon can mean hand, foot basically Bragg's body. Otherwise it would have been aggravated battery

Dec 09, 2016 09:37 PM #56

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Via the @KCStar, Bragg "struck his girlfriend and pushed her down stairs during an argument."

Dec 09, 2016 09:37 PM #57

First reaction to that news is unless he's cleared he's played his last minutes in a KU uni

Dec 09, 2016 09:43 PM #58

@BeddieKU23 I was more referring to the narcotics reference in terms of getting worse. But pushing your lady down the stairs, if true, at six in the a of the m is not a good scene.

Dec 09, 2016 09:45 PM #59

@BeddieKU23 The whole story isn't out yet. He clearly deserves a major suspension regardless. Just really sad because everything I had heard about him was that he was just the nicest guy. A bunch of my sorority friends used to hang out with him routinely and they all said that.

Dec 09, 2016 09:46 PM #60

@Fightsongwriter Happened at 1 a.m. but he was arrested at 6 a.m.

Dec 09, 2016 09:47 PM #61

Smiled in his Mug Shot as well.. Bad bad press

Dec 09, 2016 09:48 PM #62

@BeddieKU23 link?

Dec 09, 2016 09:49 PM #63

@BeddieKU23 Interesting that he was supposedly high or drunk. He is smiling ear to ear in his mug shot. He will be out on bond shortly, but the question is does Self allow him to stay with the team til the next court date of December 27 or does he kick him off now.
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Dec 09, 2016 09:50 PM #64

@kjayhawks

I'm sure he will be suspended until his court date or when he is/isn't charged.. No other choice for Self at this point. The details of the story make this a serious issue and that will not be tolerated

Dec 09, 2016 09:52 PM #65

@Kcmatt7

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article119896743.html β†—

Dec 09, 2016 09:52 PM #66

@Kcmatt7 Uh, correct, and totally irrelevant to my point.

Dec 09, 2016 09:52 PM #67

@BeddieKU23 Yes I would say at this point unless his GF drops the charges he is done at Kansas.

Dec 09, 2016 09:54 PM #68

@kjayhawks

I will not assume what Self will do but the situation at hand would think regardless of outcome his role on the team will be hard to keep

Dec 09, 2016 09:55 PM #69

@BeddieKU23 agreed all we can do is shake our head. I personally think he was our best big and will hurt us very badly down the road but I will stand with what Self decides.

Dec 09, 2016 09:57 PM #70

@kjayhawks

I don't think it changes much for the team as he was struggling anyway to find a role. I'm stunned because I thought he was a person who would not get himself into this type of situation. We will see more of Lightfoot and situations where 2 bigs without the ability to stretch the floor on the court.

Dec 09, 2016 10:02 PM #71

@BeddieKU23 Ya hope LL can find his groove or things could get interesting.

Dec 09, 2016 10:03 PM #72

@kjayhawks

we got 5 of the best guards in the country! JJ can play the 4 most of the time too

Dec 09, 2016 10:06 PM #73

@BeddieKU23 We will need solid post play at some point buddy. This team may take the look of a Roy team and have to outscore rather than play good defense.

Dec 09, 2016 10:06 PM #74

@Fightsongwriter well, to me at least, it is more defensable at 1 am. If you will hear out my reasoning.

At 6 am it would have seemed to be a select few people still awake and this would have seemed much more intentional, at least in they way I see it. Like pretty much only one way it could have gone down.

At 1 am, who knows what all could have happened. There are a lot more scenarios where Bragg doesn't look like he was being a terrible person.

That is all I guess I was trying to say.

Dec 09, 2016 10:12 PM #75

Interesting that Joe Davis is saying he doesn't deserve to be Jayhawk. I agree if proven guilty but kinda jumping the gun IMO.

Dec 09, 2016 10:15 PM #76

Any evidence? Witnesses? Pictures? We all assuming he is guilty?

Dec 09, 2016 10:16 PM #77

@kjayhawks said:

agreed all we can do is shake our head. I personally think he was our best big and will hurt us very badly down the road but I will stand with what Self decides.

He was and it's not close. He was the only post player that could stretch the floor. With our current 4 bigs it's a huge liability offensively to have two of them on the floor at once.

@BeddieKU23 said:

I don't think it changes much for the team as he was struggling anyway to find a role. I'm stunned because I thought he was a person who would not get himself into this type of situation. We will see more of Lightfoot and situations where 2 bigs without the ability to stretch the floor on the court.

I don't think we see two bigs out there at once that often at all now. I'll be interested to see the post minute distribution tomorrow.

@Crimsonorblue22 said:

Any evidence? Witnesses? Pictures? We all assuming he is guilty?

Doesn't look good at all. At the very least I doubt he plays again until January.

Dec 09, 2016 10:22 PM #78

@Crimsonorblue22

I really hope he's not guilty. Until its resolved this is negative press at the least

Dec 09, 2016 10:28 PM #79

@Crimsonorblue22 I would guess there is evidence at this point or it would've been dismissed today, not a 100% sure but @justanotherfan is a lawyer I believe.

Dec 09, 2016 10:31 PM #80

@BeddieKU23 said:

@Crimsonorblue22

I really hope he's not guilty. Until its resolved this is negative press at the least

Yeah he really shouldn't play until it's sorted even if he is completely innocent.

Dec 09, 2016 10:37 PM #81

I will guess he will suspended but not expelled from the team, doing so would send a message of guilt and I know Coach Self would not do this to a player. After the Court date and if he is found guilty then all bets are off. Just my take.

Dec 09, 2016 10:50 PM #82

@JayHawkFanToo You are probably correct, that's what most logical people would do suspend indefinitely until the matter is resolved. One other thing to think about is CJ Giles was kicked off the team for this type of stuff, Mario Little was not but his GF dropped charges if I remember correctly.

Dec 09, 2016 10:54 PM #83

Giles was a repeat offender

Dec 09, 2016 11:30 PM #84

Well my friends all I'm going to say for now is - - -it doesn't look or sound good, I agree with others, even though hasn't been proven guilty I still think he sits until it gets cleared up/or if found guilty I think dam I dunno chances are good that he is dismissed from team. - -Just seem so in-like him mercy, I feel sorry for him, he seemed like such a personable kid. always huge smile, friendly think this is just a very unfortunate situation, IF guilty I'm not trying to make any excuses just unfortunate - -and If guilty I also feel really bad for the female, time will tell MERCY - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Dec 09, 2016 11:40 PM #85

I hope he didn't hurt her. I hope they don't kick him off the team. Such a dumb mistake.

Dec 09, 2016 11:52 PM #86

Going to need the other four bigs to really step up now.

Dec 09, 2016 11:59 PM #87

@HawkChamp

Yep. Down to 9 players now (even if temporary) and one of them is Lightfoot.

Dec 10, 2016 12:04 AM #88

I'd like to know what was going through Carlton Bragg's mind when he was arrested and taken to the police station, to be smiling in his mug shot...
I'm hoping he was just really drunk and didn't really process the situation that he was in or something...

Dec 10, 2016 12:08 AM #89

He was likely completely wasted at that point.

Dec 10, 2016 12:22 AM #90

I'm sticking w/him. I've been griping how soft the smiley soft spoken piano man has been playing. He has a hard time speaking in post game, he's so shy and timid. He's no thug! Alcohol does bad things to some, and we simply do not have facts. I do not want his life ruined for this, if he did miss up. Self will figure out his punishment and it will be fair. I'm not worried about the team, the young people involved are my concern. Where were his buddies? It was stop day. I know many lessons have been learned and I hope no long term repercussions will happen to either parties. πŸ™

Dec 10, 2016 01:08 AM #91

If when it is all played out and IF, IF, he IS guilty as charged I think it's going to be interesting to the punishment. I could easily see suspended for the rest of the season - -not sure about being dismissed from the team, just a really bad situation -- -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Dec 10, 2016 01:12 AM #92

Well no sooner posted above, went to ESPN and BAM -- Bragg has been suspended indinfetely - -there you go, so could be awhile till it gets cleared up, others gonna have to step it up - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Dec 10, 2016 01:35 AM #93

Indefinite was really the only choice until the situation is resolved. Absolutely can't play him with this cloud over his head currently. I'm sure once we have all the facts and the court stuff is done it will be changed from indefinite to something else.

Dec 10, 2016 02:14 AM #94

@Crimsonorblue22 said:

Giles was a repeat offender

Correct. Self kept Little around, so I don't think Bragg will be kicked off the team even if guilty unless he shows a pattern of poor behavior.

Dec 10, 2016 02:32 AM #95

@drgnslayr If he still plays video games I guess technically he's still a kid - ? Right ?

Dec 10, 2016 02:32 AM #96

Well, poke me in the eye with a stick. Who among us saw that coming? I know other teams have similar issues, but it sure seems like KU has more than their share. Keeping fingers crossed. More 4 guard platoons coming to a theater near you!

Dec 10, 2016 02:34 AM #97

@hawkmoon2020 I agree idk why it seems like our guys can't stay outta trouble, idk if its a character thing or what but its getting old like years ago after the FB vs BB fight.

Dec 10, 2016 02:41 AM #98

@RockChalkRedlock So I guess what you post about Mitch Lightfoot is not meant to be mean spirited, I hope ? Although is not likely, is possible that Bragg could be today's Wally Pip ? Although much more likely to be tomorrows C.J. Giles...

Dec 10, 2016 02:49 AM #99

@globaljaybird Bragg like Giles?

Dec 10, 2016 03:14 AM #100

I don't believe we have more problems than other teams. But let's face it. If something happens and it's linked to Kansas it will garner national attention. Some of these kids come from homes and backgrounds that would probably make most of us cringe and be thankful for our upbringing. There is only so much you can do in some cases. Coaching staffs can talk til they're blue in the face about expectations, behavior, repercussions and hope it sinks in. Ultimately it's up to the individual. But one thing I do believe is that HCBS is far less tolerant than other coaches when it comes to infractions.

Dec 10, 2016 03:31 AM #101

@Crimsonorblue22 Hope not ... but CJ went packing ...

Dec 10, 2016 05:42 AM #102

@kjayhawks

As others have mentioned, Giles had been in trouble before and had used up all the good will available.

If you had asked me who was the least likely player to get into trouble, last season I would have said Ellis and this season I would have said Bragg. His shy demeanor, piano playing and overall niceness did not appear to show the type of person that would do something like this; it just seems out of character, on to other hand, how well do we really know him?

Dec 10, 2016 01:50 PM #103

@JayHawkFanToo said:

If you had asked me who was the least likely player to get into trouble, last season I would have said Ellis and this season I would have said Bragg. His shy demeanor, piano playing and overall niceness did not appear to show the type of person that would do something like this; it just seems out of character, on to other hand, how well do we really know him?

I would agree, but if alcohol and/or other substances are involved here I think all bets are off on assumed behavior. I've known some really pleasant people who become downright mean and belligerent when under the influence. I've also seen the reverse scenario. There's just no telling what someone may or may not do when the angels and demons on your shoulder get a little bit tipsy.

Dec 10, 2016 02:15 PM #104

O Boy! Bill, the mirthful gods once again have pounced upon your shoulders. Best of luck in sorting out this mess...while continuing to march remaining troops to glory. We are counting on you not to tweet idiocies, but to generate the very best of decisions for all concerned.

Dec 10, 2016 02:41 PM #105

I'd wager some wooden nickles that those photos of Carlton are not official mug shots. Some photojournalist is yanking chains.

Dec 10, 2016 02:55 PM #106

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Dammit!

Photo courtesy of the Douglas Co. Police Dept.

Dec 10, 2016 03:20 PM #107

@REHawk

www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article119896743.html

Notice the comment under the photos.

Dec 10, 2016 03:23 PM #108

at least he took the headband off for the mug shot

Dec 10, 2016 03:30 PM #109

Four years of issues with our big men is getting old.

Embiid... injured

Cliff... finally got clearance, then his family screwed him

Diallo... delayed clearance/didn't develop

Bragg... will miss a chunk of the season, and will be lucky if he returns at all

Dec 10, 2016 03:39 PM #110

I hope he's found not guilty. That is my hope for any player on our team that is accused of something. He is innocent until the court says otherwise. Having said that this situation will be something that has to be dealt with delicately because of the nature of what happened.

Even if he's found not guilty the simple fact that he was arrested and was in a situation that jeopardizes his position with his team is something that will stick with him forever and something Self will have to think about how to move past this with or without him. This is a distraction and the negative press that comes with it is not something this team should be dealing with right now.

Dec 10, 2016 03:40 PM #111

@brooksmd Thx for da link...

Dec 10, 2016 03:47 PM #112

As a Kansas lawyer, I've handled many, many misdemeanors. What helps is for all parties involved to have the time to reflect on what happened and for experienced lawyers to sort it out. My reaction to police reports ranges from "Good grief what in the hell was my client thinking" to "Oh, you've got to be kidding me-that's not a valid charge." Kansas law requires an arrest when responding officers see evidence of a battery in a domestic dispute. Here, Lawrence PD mistakenly treated Bragg's arrest as a domestic offense, when he wasn't related to the putative victim and they didn't live together. Also, quit worrying about the mug shot. The officers in the room could have been joking around or Bragg like all of us smiles any time his picture is being taken. I've seen victims of horrible offenses smile when their picture is taken, so the smile isn't determinative of what the person is feeling.

Please, let's focus on our players on the court against Nebraska and let the Bragg situation work itself out. RCJH

Dec 10, 2016 03:49 PM #113

@Crimsonorblue22 said:

He's not that physical on the court

This should be part of his defense.

"I can't box out, your honor. if I was pushing someone down the stairs on purpose it would probably end up me at the bottom. I may have bumped in to her but I got hit first by some other giant clumsy dude. I think Landen was with me. I think we were both reaching for the same cup perched on the bannister. Think he knocked it over and we both slipped."

Dec 10, 2016 03:56 PM #114

@approxinfinity Even though this is serious schizz, that is kinda funny... Shame on you appx.

Dec 10, 2016 03:58 PM #115

@globaljaybird yeah. Pencil me in for "sardonic"

Dec 10, 2016 04:01 PM #116

@approxinfinity http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/video/248357/Mr-Sardonicus-Original-Trailer-.html β†—

Dec 10, 2016 04:01 PM #117

@stoptheflop smile also reflects immaturity

Dec 10, 2016 04:03 PM #118

@Crimsonorblue22 I dunno, I smile when I'm nervous.

Bragg just always smiles, it's his poker face.

Dec 10, 2016 04:05 PM #119

@approxinfinity you could say something how he runs to the bench when he's being yanked, Self always says he scared he going to run into him. I'll stop there.

Dec 10, 2016 05:45 PM #120

@Crimsonorblue22

My guess is he was high/drunk at the time.

@stoptheflop

Your input was much appreciated. Thanks.

Dec 10, 2016 05:54 PM #121

@stoptheflop Yes..........thanks for the input.

Dec 10, 2016 05:56 PM #122

@BShark and at All Ya'll.

Guessing what happened and making snap judgements of Carlton is pointless.

Regarding the mug shot smile...yah, I admit I thought it in poor taste to smile for that.

Doesnt mean anything. If anything it doesnt mean he was happy about what happened!!

We cant call for him to be kicked off the team. Thats just silly.

As I mentioned in another post just now, everyone makes mistakes and everyone deserves a second chance.

Dec 10, 2016 06:00 PM #123

@Lulufulu

I know the look, is all I'm saying. Good be wrong, only Bragg knows unless they tested him.

Dec 10, 2016 06:31 PM #124

Just read from Newell that the victim is being held on suspicion of battery as well. Is that normal?

Here is the link
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article120133273.html β†—

Dec 10, 2016 07:00 PM #125

@dylans

Interesting. Mug shots are usually taken in front of a height chart and the individual holds a sign or one is added digitally with the case number; neither is present. These appear to be cleansed courtesy pictures provided to KU and not necessarily the customary "mug" shots.

Dec 10, 2016 07:05 PM #126

@kjayhawks

I am a lawyer, but without access to the facts I wouldn't feel comfortable speculating on what the situation is. I just don't know nearly enough right now.

Dec 10, 2016 07:08 PM #127

@justanotherfan if she hasn't been charged how can they keep her in jail? Thx!

Dec 10, 2016 07:08 PM #128

@chsguy2008

That is actually "normal" on cases similar to this. It often ends in a case of "he said, she said" or "he said, he said." Unless there is a "smoking gun" these situations usually vanish because the prosecutor doesn't have enough real evidence to bring the case into a courtroom.

I'm more concerned about how this case is treated within the legal jurisdiction of KU.

Dec 10, 2016 07:21 PM #129

@chsguy2008 Yes, it's normal. If Lawrence PD is told she struck, or even just pushed Bragg and something else corroborates it, she gets charged too. Usually, the couple involved bares their souls to the helpful law enforcement officers and effectively convict themselves of battery offenses. Most people don't realize that a grab or a push can get them charged with battery.

Dec 10, 2016 07:28 PM #130

@drgnslayr good point. Maybe this situation with his girlfriend was part of the reason for his on court performance? Can't know for sure, but I do want him to stay on the team and be a contributor this year. It is possible nothing will come of it and he will just receive a suspension. Lets hope for the best.

Dec 10, 2016 07:47 PM #131

My brother in-law claims there is video evidence that will clear Bragg. Remember the woman is being held in jail also. I reeeeeaaaaaallllllyyy hope Bragg is innocent of any wrong doing, we shall see.

Dec 10, 2016 07:58 PM #132

@JayHawkFanToo I've sorted through thousands of mug shots and this wasn't a courtesy job to KU or Carlton. I don't know why, but not every mug shot involves a chart and ID number or name.

Dec 10, 2016 08:26 PM #133

@YellowBeak

I don't know either. Maybe they feel it was a lover's quarrel that got out of hand and there is hope they will kiss and make up and charges will be dropped...I know, a long wishful thinking shot...

Dec 10, 2016 08:27 PM #134

@JayHawkFanToo he needs to stay away from that forever! Play bb

Dec 10, 2016 08:29 PM #135

@Crimsonorblue22

Agreed...easier said than done though.

Dec 10, 2016 08:30 PM #136

@JayHawkFanToo restraining order

Dec 10, 2016 11:47 PM #137

@BShark I like the logo better than the 'fro.

Dec 10, 2016 11:49 PM #138

@KUSTEVE what if that is his pic?

Dec 10, 2016 11:56 PM #139

@brooksmd Thanks for the info. Unbelievable smile for such an occasion. Carlton appeared more serious today in street clothes as the ESPN cameras zoomed in.

Dec 11, 2016 12:12 AM #140

@REHawk made me sick!

Dec 11, 2016 01:47 AM #141

@Crimsonorblue22 it could be. i like the cat better.

Dec 11, 2016 02:24 AM #142

Hard hitting avatar analysis. I like it.

Dec 11, 2016 03:46 PM #143

@Crimsonorblue22 Yeah, these kids are like family to most of us. There were occasions when my own two offspring gave cause to my feeling similarly ill! And I know for certain that I caused much consternation decades ago for my own concerned parents.

Dec 15, 2016 02:02 PM #144

@dylans said:

My brother in-law claims there is video evidence that will clear Bragg. Remember the woman is being held in jail also. I reeeeeaaaaaallllllyyy hope Bragg is innocent of any wrong doing, we shall see.

Now I can do my happy dance! Been waitng 5 days.

Dec 15, 2016 06:53 PM #145

@dylans is there video of this dance?😬😳

Dec 16, 2016 03:36 AM #146

@Crimsonorblue22 It'd break the internet!

Dec 16, 2016 04:12 AM #147

@dylans ha!