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Soon, soon.

FASTER, FASTER....

Go Badgers! Then really go Jayhawks.

Little game prep reading if you haven't already been over ro Jesse's house

http://kuhoops.com/ku-basketball-news/124287299/ ↗

Badgers are a mirror of the Jayhawks. No bench and poor FT shooting.

@DoubleDD You can say that again!

@wissox

Can get it to post without feeling like a hacker. LOL

Jayhawks could use Ethan Happ this year.

@wissox

Could use another post player with a pulse honestly.

@BShark

And steps in Mitch

This game could be a laffer. A snoozer. (Yawn). Could even be a sneezer (to keep ourselves awake)...

Could somebody check and see if the KU library has a button that would identify me as a "Retired Old Fart"?

Refs hate Ethan Happ

Tick tock tick tock the mouse ran up the clock. Damn the wildcat never had a chance with the Jayhawk.

Clemson bailing out NC.

Vito with the dagger. Indiana about to go to 0-2 in conference play.

Well Clem/UNC in OT so where is our game?

Meanwhile no post game interviews, ESPN has got to get back to talking about ACC darlings.

OK so I'm screwed until this stupid acc game is over. I need score updates

Lets skin some kitties!

Hey, it's on ESPN3 and isn't blacked out!

@approxinfinity

My avatar is shaking.

@BShark he better throw away any purple shirts he owns.

Graham still missing good looks. Gotta wonder if he is hurt.

This UNC game is taking its sweet time to finish.

Paging devonte shot. Good lord

@rocketdog said:

Hey, it's on ESPN3 and isn't blacked out!

Thanks for the heads up!

Our announcer whomever it is has a marriage counselor type of voice.

4 4 early

Terrible attempt at press

Jackson with a top 10 dunk!!!

oh! Die by the dunk Cats!

And squeaky calls a timeout to avoid what was coming

@BeddieKU23

Smart.

alright. stop feeding the cats bunnies. let's annihilate them.

K st matching early. If devonte ever finds his shot that has been the early mismatch

Roy had a shouting match at the end with Clemson coach. Not sure what it was about.

Only took 3 minutes for Josh to get a foul. Just not smart

@BeddieKU23 funny how we often talk about the offense getting better, but we're scoring at a decent clip always... if our D got better we'd be lethal, but we just recognize how offensively gifted our team is and so it always feels that we have more room there to reach our potential, I think.

@tundrahok

I usually have to wait for the replay. It was a nice surprise for me - dedicated cable cutter.

Lucas big again

Lucassss

Lol if Iwundu is hitting that just forget about it

HCBS not all happy about defense on the last 2 possessions. Understandably so...

Graham laaaaazy on offense

Ugh. Come on DG!

Wow, this is reminding me of 88 when Kstate sent me home sad for the first time since I was a KU student!

@wissox 1st of 3 times that year, but we got them all back.

Lazy lazy lazy

Real focused start (sarcasm)

@BShark he's been lazy all year

No defense

Not liking the effort and so far k st is playing some kind of sag pack line d

Nice to see the lazy play has continued on defense, better wake up this is pathetic

@wissox said:

Wow, this is reminding me of 88 when Kstate sent me home sad for the first time since I was a KU student!

I hated that. I was there and it was a long quiet walk out of there to our car.

@tundrahok Back to back to back the last three games of the year. The best way to do it!

@BeddieKU23 said:

Not liking the effort and so far k st is playing some kind of sag pack line d

We should be getting good three point looks against this team.

Mason needs to get it together. Turnover, missed layup missed floater.

No commitment on the defensive end. 18 points given up to the pussycats in just 6+ minutes. Awful. Not like they are an offensive powerhouse....

@kjayhawks kind of embarrassing for upperclassmen to play like this under a coach that values defense

Every team we will play knows we don't defend the corner 3. Let's count how many uncontested 3s KState shoots.

I expect that we will see better soon

Or maybe its the 4 guard line up... makes us focus on the offense all the time.

@DCHawker said:

No commitment on the defensive end. 18 points given up to the pussycats in just 6+ minutes. Awful. Not like they are an offensive powerhouse....

Ridiculous really.

@BeddieKU23 and then walk his ass back up the floor, seniors don't do that stuff...

@stoptheflop And another one....

@wissox What a story. They should make a movie.

And a KSU walkon just hit a three

This game so far is to Frans liking.

Gimme some Carlton!

turnover city wvu is gonna kill us

Get more physical. This is weak D

Turnover bragg jeez

Will KSU hundo ball us?

Lol these shots are redic

Finally a little defense

What an ugly start at home. What else is there to say

They're sharing the ball - 7 players have scored for them - 3 for us... Not to mention 60%+ from the field - 4-5 from 3 pt.

I like the extra possessions and rushed shots we're creating with ball presssure. important when they're hitting shots. this is about to turn around.

Don't know who's less photogenic - Sciambi or Frannie...? Who fits in da pic?

Hopefully ksu doesn't continue to hit uncontested threes

@BeddieKU23 said:

What an ugly start at home. What else is there to say

Complete opposite from how this game usually starts.

@globaljaybird What do you mean? Fran is a very photogenic leprechaun.

@DCHawker said:

for

Even a walk on scored. You know some fools gold be going on

@DanR said:

Hopefully ksu doesn't continue to hit uncontested threes

Yeah, might want to contest some shots and guard.

@BShark

That's what happens when we don't match energy!

KSU currently at almost 67% from 3. That won't last.

@BeddieKU23

three games in a row!

@BShark said:

@BeddieKU23

three games in a row!

True true

@brooksmd said:

KSU currently at almost 67% from 3. That won't last.

It might if all the looks continue to be wide open.

It all starts with pressuring the ball handler. We were trying to close on shooters, its not hard to catch and shoot a good pass.

Let's see if we can last a minute without bragg turning it over..

Slow and steady

JJ definitely trying to make up for last game....

👏👏👏👏

We got a ballgame folks.

Fran have laryngitis?

@brooksmd where ya been big guy?

@DCHawker

I would say he has responded well.

Hey fran🤐

@wissox Not complaining are you????

@BeddieKU23 in fairness, both passes kind of sucked. one was a weird lazy ass spin bounce pass from Svi. The other was an attempt to thread the needle up high on the baseline over everyone else. Carlton will settle in, I hope.

@globaljaybird Sicker than a dog the past week.

@DCHawker I don't care, I'm too busy typing on this and JNews thread to really know what the announcers are saying.

KSU has Scottie Pippen and Larry Bird no wonder we are struggling!

2 on dj!!

@Crimsonorblue22

Story of his career

@approxinfinity said:

@BeddieKU23 in fairness, both passes kind of sucked. one was a weird lazy ass spin bounce pass from Svi. The other was an attempt to thread the needle up high on the baseline over everyone else. Carlton will settle in, I hope.

Agreed just highlighting his week hands

We'd be screaming if that foul was called on us. That was ticky tack against the kitty.

@wissox no way

Dumb foul svi

@wissox It does get called on us.

And so 12 minutes in and mason is a no show tonight? Where is he

These fundamentally sound offensive games from Lucas against below the rim defenders worry me as much as I appreciate them.

@approxinfinity

Agreed

That was a good aggressive play by Carlton. He needs to attack off the dribble

@BeddieKU23 Think FMZero was butt chewing #1.

@Crimsonorblue22 Not sure if you're thinking about the same call, but the play I'm thinking of was really weak.

Great plays by lucas to keep play alive and he got that basket off good pass

@approxinfinity

I don't care what anybody says. Lucas for All American. ;)

@brooksmd 😐 to hear 👂 that. Sounds like Fran is a bit hoarse also so maybe he'll be more quiet tonight. I've a good suggestion for cough medicine if ya need one!?

@BeddieKU23 Letting everybody else do their thing until he takes it over in 2nd half.

We need the team to go on a 3 point barrage....shoot the 3!!!!

Hi All. Go Hawks. Just sitting down. JJ looks aggressive. GOOD.

Really starting to feel like an L.

@RockChalkinTexas Rest of the Hawks, not so much. BAD...

All birds play with their food before the kill.

Bragg knows no D skilz

Can't play bragg tonight man

@globaljaybird Wasn't much I haven't tried including most of what is in the booze closet.

@BeddieKU23 said:

Can't play bragg tonight man

Larry is killing him

JJ put back.

@RockChalkinTexas Hey lady, how ya doin'?

JJ for 30 tonight?

@approxinfinity You might be short-changing him...

We are letting at team that shoots 44% on year shoot 60% unacceptable period

Josh Jackson, welcome to the Big 12

BOOM! Feeling it JJ!

Let's talk about MITCHEM ICE BLAST playing some good minutes.

What are refs chjecking?

@brooksmd taking each day one at a time. Have had friends by the last 3 days. Took the tree down today. Planting tomato seeds tomorrow in the greenhouse. JJ on :boom: :fire:

@BShark got a haircut and looks like Christmas helped him toward gaining the freshman 15 :)

Dont Bring it down Mitch and it's three

Anybody see lt👟 Cream that kid?

Sweet passes

Awesome play of late

Fran, sign language or🤐

@BeddieKU23 said:

Awesome play of late

No reason this team shouldn't kill KSU.

LL going for another double double - maybe by the end of the half....

That's alright Mitch, way to stay in front.

Bogus foul on Mitch.

That foul call on mitch is totally biased he called it before mitch even checked him

@DoubleDD said:

Bogus foul on Mitch.

Larry Bird rules.

@BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 said:

Awesome play of late

No reason this team shouldn't kill KSU.

Well mason is back and lucas has really played solid

@DCHawker let's hope so

Better but still too many breakdowns defensively

KSU already down to 44% from 3.

Rebounding the major concern the rest of game as k st comes back to life

Nice blocking out

@brooksmd

And KU still leading. Mark of a champion.

JJ no fouls?

He didn't get set until Vick was in the air LOL.

Both teams solid from the floor

💩

Another Bulls hit call

Come on ref, Vick so light he couldn't knock a flea over.

@brooksmd Hudy?

Great pass

Great job Bragg finishing

What a pass jj

They interviewed Marcus peters before game, he lost one on one against mason🏉

@Crimsonorblue22 I'm sure she's tried everything in her bag of tricks but he still looks the same as start of last season.

Barry brown get out of here

Somebody wonder where Bulldog was?

DJ and Iwundu with 2 fouls each is huge.

@brooksmd hmmmm

We can score better than about any Hawks team I can recall - if we could just guard anything close to as well, we would be pretty dangerous....

Frank!

DG hitting!you r ahead of me. I got a cell phone and learned to text. Never had one b4.

@brooksmd said:

Somebody wonder where Bulldog was?

He back!

Mmmph.. There are few things more satisfying than good ball moving leaving Frank wide open for 3.

@approxinfinity are u self?

Jackson said you will never get this ball

About 4 plays tonight you just say wow

@BeddieKU23 said:

Jackson said you will never get this ball

About 4 plays tonight you just say wow

Amazing response from him after a poor game.

Didn't like that call on Lucas. Got a foul for being bigger than Budke.

@BShark we knew it though! To smart and to talented

JJ's got basketball kung fu.

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Vick again leaving someone wide open in the corner. Frustrating

Lost some of the mo' this last couple of minutes - let's hit one at the buzzer...

What a shot by Devonte!

@Crimsonorblue22 said:

DG hitting!

From me @rockchalkintexas. You are ahead of me. I got a cell phone and learned to text. Never had one b4.
Somehow I got inside your comment.

Walk on career night!

I tell you guys idk if I've seen defense this bad letting up over 40 at home in half to a team that averages 75 against 344 SOS. We will not win the B12 guarding like this.

Dg❤️💙💪🏀🏀🏀

DG KABOOM at the buzzer.

Too many points for KState. Our second half defense must improve.

@DCHawker Niiiiice!

@BShark said:

Didn't like that call on Lucas. Got a foul for being bigger than Budke.

Very 1 sided called game so far

ESPN box says we're shooting 7-14 on 3's for 46%.

@BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 said:

Jackson said you will never get this ball

About 4 plays tonight you just say wow

Amazing response from him after a poor game.

The response you see from such a gifted kid

@kjayhawks that's what I 've been saying. Very little concentration on the defensive end. No urgency either

TT tied wv

@wissox Math is hard.

@Crimsonorblue22 surprised?

Interesting ESPN stats summary. Look at 3 pt %

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Not pretty, not beautiful, not gorgeous, not awe inspiring, just KU taking out the trash. Um I meant taking care of business.

@RockChalkinTexas hmmmmm maybe not.

Svi has got to get his offense going in the second half. 0/2 so far. No enough shots for him.

@kjayhawks said:

I tell you guys idk if I've seen defense this bad letting up over at home in half to a team that averages 75 against 344 SOS. We will not win the B12 guarding like this.

It's a big problem but I'm not sure how it gets better. Josh is our only plus defender.

@BeddieKU23 said:

@BShark said:

Didn't like that call on Lucas. Got a foul for being bigger than Budke.

Very 1 sided called game so far

Yep.

@RockChalkinTexas He has 1 PF for the half. Big improvement by the kid in all aspects.

@wissox said:

ESPN box says we're shooting 7-14 on 3's for 46%.

Funny!

I said before and I will say it again, KU has to stop spotting the other team a bunch of points at the start and then playing catch up...

@stoptheflop he has 2 fouls. Saving him for 2nd half.

@rocketdog ESPN screws us no matter what!

Actually in regards to my earlier comment Coleby might actually be a plus defender too but he is a minus on offense and is still dragging his leg.

@Crimsonorblue22 Every time we play at 8, the early game goes into overtime. ESPN didn't even put our game on any of their other channels.

K State's stats at half...
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@stoptheflop I watched on my ESPN app

@stoptheflop

East coast flippitybipping. OPPs sorry. basis.

@BShark Feel bad for him with the leg not healing like he would have wanted.

@Bwag and this.

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@BShark Theyre just playing to their level of competition & saving their bodies for enhanced competition. KSU is not a legit threat & we all know it. Not even a snowballs chance in Lawrence...

@Crimsonorblue22 I need to get that. I looked at their other channels, but no luck.

@DoubleDD That's flippitybipping better.

Josh Jackson for president. Well after two terms of Trump of course. Damn sorry.

@approxinfinity both teams shooting very well. We're doing better.

@stoptheflop it is on ESPN 2 and 3 now. 2 was what we were scheduled for . At least on Watch ESPN.

@RockChalkinTexas they say physically its 100%, mentally is his hang up

Tech hanging in there against Huggy Bear

Lucas rebounding well; on his way to another double double...

@JayHawkFanToo

On the serious side. Lucas is playing like a man if not an all American. Kid is bringing it.

@Bwag Moving Frank to the bench was the right thing to do. Allowed Devonte to hawk the ball handler with Vick and Svi covering the wings, without putting extra wear on Frank. Think thats why the half swung in our favor.

@approxinfinity I didn't pick that up. There was a stats site that had minutes too. Wonder how many Frank had.

Frank's a champ for life💙❤️

@DoubleDD

He's baaaaaaack...

@Bwag Self must be laying in bed at night, staring at the ceiling, wondering how he can get better D out of a 4 guard line up. Think this new crush on the 4 guard line up has Bill feeling like a teenager again?

OU 38 - TCU 34 at half time.

@RockChalkinTexas Yeah, ESPN2 and the WatchESPN app.

@JayHawkFanToo at tcu too. Not that ou's a hopping place

@Bwag said:

@approxinfinity both teams shooting very well. We're doing better.

But we REALLY shouldn't be allowing them to shoot 53% from the field and only force 4 TOs. ...

@approxinfinity Jesse had Graham as Hawk to Rock. JJ is breaking out though, but DG right behind him.

Good to see Davonte having a good game...he was overdue...

@approxinfinity said:

@Bwag Self must be laying in bed at night, staring at the ceiling, wondering how he can get better D out of a 4 guard line up. Think this new crush on the 4 guard line up has Bill feeling like a teenager again?

He now knows what gave Hoiberg heart problems.

@Bwag Frank has 9 points.

@DCHawker said:

@Bwag said:

@approxinfinity both teams shooting very well. We're doing better.

But we REALLY shouldn't be allowing them to shoot 53% from the field and only force 4 TOs. ...

D got a bit better for a bit. Need to see the effort consistently.

Big diff in JJ's stats when he can play entire 1st half.

Josh on pace for a 3D.

Big foul on Johnson there

Come on frank

@brooksmd said:

Big diff in JJ's stats when he can play entire 1st half.

Surprising really.

@Bwag said:

Big foul on Johnson there

DJ fouls a lot Johnson

Foot on line on that last KSU inbound

Third one on DJ. :+1:

Dang jj😳

Terrible start to the half

HCBS apparently didn't get them focused at half time....

Terrible, terrible, Terrible

No words

Nice Lucas! Sticky fingers!

@stoptheflop was wondering how many minutes.

Comment was made Self had him on the bench some there.

@Crimsonorblue22 said:

No words

Those two say enough....

Man Iwundu was wide open I could have made that lol

Did I miss something??? Why did JJ get a TF?

Iwundu man is that?

@DoubleDD talking 💩 To ref

@BShark they are going to get destroyed at Kentucky if they refuse to play defense

@DoubleDD He said something to the ref after he didn't get a foul call.

@DoubleDD said:

Did I miss something??? Why did JJ get a TF?

Complaining to the refs and with his rep he's getting t'd up every time for that.

@HawkChamp said:

@BShark they are going to get destroyed at Kentucky if they refuse to play defense

Gonna be a rough game

@BShark this game first

Thing is, these guys can play stifling D which I hope to see soon

I agree with JJ but you have to be smart 5 points on one trip.

See the ball

PLayers say things to refs all the time. What did he say??? That's a bad no call? Geez.

@DoubleDD wasn't how u doing?

Steal ...KSU 7, KU 1

Can't believe josh got yet another technical

@JayHawkFanToo said:

Steal ...KSU 7, KU 1

8-1

@Crimsonorblue22

Well it was a bad no call, but I'm basis.

@DoubleDD I agree! But can't tell the ref that if u want to help your team

Lucas 1 rebound away from a double double...

@Bwag And, while we have 4 ball-handlers - guards anyway - we have 10 TOs to their 5...

@DCHawker said:

@Bwag And, while we have 4 ball-handlers - guards anyway - we have 10 TOs to their 5...

And Frank has 5 of them.

@DCHawker

Pretty crazy that KU can't turn this KSU team over.

No defense tonight: 55 points scored against us in 25 min.

@tundrahok not a good game, so far for Frank

HCBS very animated in the timeout huddle...

Someone needs to get going on offense. Drive it down the lane.

@JayHawkFanToo got it

@RockChalkinTexas good call coach

@Crimsonorblue22 said:

@tundrahok not a good game, so far for Frank

5 TO but only 2 assists. That's backwards.

Oh yay the WEAVE

High low - Lucas to JJ down low

LL has his double-double.

@brooksmd said:

LL has his double-double.

Unfortunately, Svi has a double zero - no points and no RBs...

Never mind...

JJ, stop appealing to the ref, doesn't suit you.

Finally Svi

Just because Landen doesn't move doesn't mean that throwing your shoulder as hard as you can into his chest to create space isn't a foul.

Game of spurts...

Walk walk

Where is the defense in this game?

This ref. What?

That call was weak.

@HawkInMizery reminds me of last year. They picked it up late in the year.

@approxinfinity Was thinking the same thing.

@HawkChamp I hope the same holds true this year. we Can't win forever like this.

Getting jobbed by the refs sucks, getting jobbed at home blows...

Throws👍

The old fashioned Svi for 3!

Devonte smelled a make up call....

Johnson got bumped by CB? Really? I must be watching a diff game.

Tricky tack calls are ruining the game....

Refs are really losing this game. What a joke of a crew

@brooksmd he's getting rough, Bragg might have to flop a lil

@approxinfinity there has been too many of those already.

Huge shot by vick who had been a ghost until then

@BeddieKU23

Refs going all bruce lee.

And any foul that is called against dj Johnson is missing him fouling our bigs every single time he gets position

@Crimsonorblue22 the refs in the NBA are much better - they don't call ticky-tack stuff

Somebody tell the refs KU fans don't storm the court.

@DoubleDD said:

@BeddieKU23

Refs going all bruce lee.

So true

@BeddieKU23 Yeah, I'm not a fan of Johnson's game. Decent kid, but he should be fouling out every game.

@HawkInMizery Bragg doesn't even try to deny his man the 🏀 Hell even Mitch does that...

@BeddieKU23 said:

And any foul that is called against dj Johnson is missing him fouling our bigs every single time he gets position

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Bilas sissified bball at its best...

What was that call?

At least it is not Higgins :smirk:

Redick

@globaljaybird i really thought he was going to take a leap this year after watching him during the preseason and at late night. He has all the tools he's just gotta be more aggressive.

svi 9 second half points

Gotta call it both ways ref.....

@RockChalkinTexas Time to put this one away...

Alright here comes our run.

@BShark

Dude I'm one of the few that thinks Bruce is a pansy. His claim to fame is using Self's players. He can take his clipboard and shove up is arse.

@globaljaybird premonition?

Click!

Over the back much

Svi does that every dang game! Can't use him against wv

WTF - just horrible defensive effort...

@DoubleDD that whiny ass voice is too much to handle.

I kind of hope Bragg goes pro

Lazy entry pass.

svi now has 4 fouls.

@stoptheflop said:

svi now has 4 fouls.

Good

Steals. 9-1

TO's 6-12

Nice 🏀Movement

DJ Johnson is Bruce Weber's first recruit ... spawned in an alternate universe where Predator did not kill Carl Weathers, but rather mated with him.

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Yep KSU is gonna get to 100

Not a fan of that old guy ref

What do they think they are going to do against Kentucky?

@HawkChamp

lose

@HawkChamp long ways from that game

@DanR he'll be in the DLeague like most others.

I'm not sure JJ was fouled and I'm not sure that LL call should have been called

Welp Lucas with 4. Things gonna get crazy

@BShark ughhhh

@Crimsonorblue22 three and a half weeks

@Bwag said:

I'm not sure JJ was fouled and I'm not sure that LL call should have been called

Agree on both, but the real problem is that the entry pass was too easy and LL let his guy get way too deep in the paint...

Josh has to make these

Gut check time

So if the ref's are calling it closer to maintain control why is Johnson still on the floor?

Nice d by mason guarding a guy 8 inches taller

@HawkChamp kinda concerned about tonight

@HawkChamp maybe some pride with defense by then

Defense what defense lol

@DanR And KState didn't even get Wade the ball; took a 3.

Iwundu with 4 fouls...drive at him and draw the foul or get a freebie.

These refs are making shake my head.

@BeddieKU23 said:

Defense what defense lol

The same D that has allowed 55% shooting and only generated 1 steal and forced 7 TOs....

Got to hold home court.

@JayHawkFanToo

Unless it's Jackson who can't make fts

@BeddieKU23 he's due

@stoptheflop

Kinda reminds me of us with Perry sometimes, team forgets he is there. Wade is actually pretty good too.

Need ft

Steal #2

@Bwag a 100% improvement!

Great foul by Larry there tbh

Told u👋👋👋

Time to go full bulldog

@BeddieKU23

Spoke to soon

Drive on Iwundu, he will not foul and you get a free path to the hoop.

@Crimsonorblue22

yupp

@BeddieKU23

A pleasant surprise. Smart foul either way by KSU. Josh dunking is about a 99% proposition.

There's plenty of time left to beat the hell out of them! Come on guys! Rip em up!

Good d come on refs!

Where is @jaybate-1.0 ?

Vegas missed it tonight. Unless it was a line balancing spread

Shot clock

Where was the foul?

How is that a foul

@Crimsonorblue22 better be that

Like by a lot not even close duh!!

Hey...they finally got one right...

@BeddieKU23

Breathing is a foul tonight

@JayHawkFanToo cause they reviewed

Yeah. Come on ref.

Refs saved by the clock

Shut up squeaky

They called it a foul because he contorted his body to throw up a prayer. Give me a break ref. Watch THE GAME!

Carlton either needs to go up strong or pass out.

These refs just plain suck

Fools gold

@BShark He plays a lot smaller than his size...

@BeddieKU23

How was that not a foul by DJ on Frank? lmao

@BShark Carlton just needs to get stronger period.

Bragg--- dude, do something right

How long without a FG?

@globaljaybird

Both teams now struggling to score

@globaljaybird too

How many frickn turnovers are we going to have?

Yeah it's easy to go offense / defense subs with Iwundu when every single possession is a foul.

@StLJhawk 14 so far.

We're a bit lucky that they have gone completely cold from outside... Other than the one shot clock violation possession, it's not like we are denying them shots...

Johnson with 4 should be an open lane to the hoop now.

Lazy ft by mason inexcusable at home

Is Lucas due to come back in?

@stoptheflop hope so.

@stoptheflop Bragg killing us

Time to get ugly and drive

@BShark

Refs have something to do with that

Have come to the sad conclusion that Bragg is a major liability on defense - terrible footwork and positioning. And, surprisingly little rim protection.

Boy have we missed lucas out there

MVP of the game ???

The Refs.

Somebody tell them nobody wants to watch them.

sorry to ignore everyone, I know it's rude, but my nephew showed up at halftime. Haven't seen him for a while. I hope you haven't missed my insightful insights.

@DCHawker i was just going to say that myself DC

@DanR that's what I said 11 minutes ago. The way the refs are calling it, we would probably get a charge.

Better start making the free ones boys.

Scooter back!

@wissox what ever liar, you were on the other chat site, I saw you.

Im kidding

What recruit is seeing this :shit:?

@wissox

Who are YOU???

Game on now

Get off the court Bruce

So sloppy out there. This team does not care about defense at all. Disappointing

Circus shot night

Jackson killing us with missed shots

@RockChalkinTexas Preferably someone over 6'9.

@BeddieKU23 said:

Jackson killing us with missed shots

Agree.

Big possession there LL

Ballsy call to throw in to lucas

Gotta make those

@Bwag

can't make the freebie

@Bwag Lucas with the lid off!

@BeddieKU23 said:

Jackson killing us with missed shots

No doubt Bruce would give him a 3 pt shot every possession if he could.

@BeddieKU23 said:

@Bwag

can't make the freebie

That hurt

Joke call

Only took 39 minutes. Good job refs. NOT!!!

Gotta do better than 60% FT shooting - need these down the stretch.

Hawkchamp-why don't you think we're ready for Kentucky?

Five stud guards and we're riding Lucas?? Hell yes!

@Lulufulu I aint been there all half either!

Omg it's down to these...

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Anyone else embarrassed?

That's what happens when you don't play defense

@autohawk I'm not embarassed of Landen Lucas.

GRapes win

@autohawk I'm not playing so no I'm not embarrassed. Why would you be?

Not over

Good god guys we lost KSU at home

Come on defense. Need a take away

@approxinfinity agree, but it's not a one on one game

Chance to win here

Who takes the last shot?

Mason

Okay I'm convinced. Weber can coach.

I'm worried JJ may have touched that???

@DanR Mason -> Graham.

Mason drive dish to dg

Better be off the pussy cats

@Bwag said:

Chance to win here

But, even if we do, not sure we really deserve it. They've really outplayed us - at least down the stretch.

@BShark yeah he's not a bad coach, he's just a d---.

Layup

@BShark Nah it's an accident

Perfect!

PRAISE SVISUS

Svi for the coast to coast

Don't need no OT

Holly S*it...

Didn't hear anyone say Svi when I asked that!

@Crimsonorblue22 said:

Perfect!

Doubt that's how HCBS drew it up... ;)

Svi definitely traveled

But I'll take it

Win is a win

Sviiiiiiiiiiíïįìîïïïîīįiiì

@BeddieKU23 A few Euro steps....

@BeddieKU23

Euro step...

EURO STEP !

Svi!!!

We got away with one there

Tech win would be a great finish after our svwin

@wissox I had a feeling it would be Svi

@BeddieKU23 said:

Svi definitely traveled

I mean, with the way this game was called tonight lol.

I'd prefer overtime to that walk off layup

@HawkChamp I believe you!!

I told you guys KSU was good...

How many steps did that WVU guy take to beat us a couple years ago? All's fair.

@DanR said:

I'd prefer overtime to that walk off layup

Better than a foul.

The refs owed us a few

@DanR said:

I'd prefer overtime to that walk off layup

What?

Interesting that both teams had all starters in double figures...

These refs sucked.

@approxinfinity Possibly trained by Higgins.

TT & WVI TIED with 4 & change

@BeddieKU23 said:

We got away with one there

Crisis averted

@autohawk KState played well. Shot over 50% from the field. But, our defense was lacking all night.

@Bwag Might have been a walk, but we'll take it.

Refs sucked but this game shouldnt have been this close....at all. Where did our defense go?? Post defense? Aside from Lucas.

Dang

Svi's Dad got to see him be the hero!

@stoptheflop Correction: Our defense sucked ...

You guys are nuts. That was far from a travel. NO what is official is Fran is a dick.

@RockChalkinTexas double cool

@Lulufulu Final fouls were about the same, but we only hit 13/20 Fts.

@stoptheflop That's not fair - KSU actually scored 89 twice this year - against Hampton and CSU!
"Course, they just managed 61 against Robert Morris.

Svi for three (steps)

Yang to the Yin @ West Virginia 2 years ago.

@DoubleDD said:

You guys are nuts. That was far from a travel.

If it was far from a travel, it is only because it was one step beyond. That many steps is a "journey" I believe.

@RockChalkinTexas said:

Svi's Dad got to see him be the hero!

TWIST: Self masterfully crafted this scenario.

I don't know about you guys, but I'm tired of winning so much.

@mayjay

Dude I watched the replay. Not even close to a travel.

Kinda wish jj didn't put up those 3's at the end, our worst shooter.

Tech up 2 with the coming after TO

It was a travel dammit but my point is, the game shouldnt have been that close

FT% and TO's /Steals almost did us in.

We're gonna have some issues in some games

That's not true at all. Can't wait to beat the hell out of Kentucky and have this bad win be water under the bridge.

@DoubleDD I'm w/you

@approxinfinity I always want at least a two possession lead at the end. Way to close.

@Bwag said:

FT% and TO's /Steals almost did us in.

We're gonna have some issues in some games

I was shocked by how much steals/tos were in KSU's favour.

@approxinfinity

Bad wins make champions.

Press Virginia working on a turd in Lubbock.

You heard Svi say the play was give it to Frank and get the hell out of the way :)

@BShark believe Jesse called it out in his pre-game article.

TTech up on WV

So glad josh didn't brick those last two free throws like he did the others

OU lost to TCU earlier. We need WVU to lose. Tech up by 6 3:00 left.

The box score shows KState stayed in the game by making FTs. We had more field goal, but Cats had 6 more from the line.

Tech up 6!!!!

@DoubleDD No matter how many times it is recounted, it still equals 3. Left, right, left, shot.

If this isn't [travel] then Svi didn't travel.(

Texas Tech getting close to pulling off the upset

@brooksmd haha and the Scheyer Shuffle, of course....

My apologies to all for the thread name.

@BShark nice job Jinxy cat.

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Higgins is reffing Tech game.

Great now we have to listen to the travel BS

@kjayhawks who cares? I don't

@mayjay

Just because you used to be a judge doesn't mean you have the last say so. Take your gavel and shove it. Sorry.

That was far from a travel watched the replay again. Have DVR. Nope. Svi is the man.

@BShark More like Sunflower Limp Biscuit

Lando's my POG with 18 pts. and 12 rbs. Jackson only had 6 second half points and missed too many FTs.
Oh yea, and the technical.

@RockChalkinTexas said:

Higgins is reffing Tech game.

Higgins is no doubt both reffing and effing the game.

@kjayhawks said:

Great now we have to listen to the travel BS

Ignore all grapes.

@RockChalkinTexas

Amen sister.

I wonder how soon ESPN will have an article about how officiating errors like Frank's last foul was a foul lol. One thing is forsure we have to improve or Baylor and WVU will kill us.

As usual tech can't win without drama

@BShark Jesse's 2nd point

Forcing turnovers: The Wildcats are eighth nationally in turnover rate, creating giveaways on 24 percent of their defensive possessions. Barry Brown is the team’s best in this area, ranking in the top 20 nationally in steal rate.

@BeddieKU23 ot

@approxinfinity Amazing how many of those videos are Puke getting away with it? Makes you wonder what the refs were watching.

@kjayhawks

KU and it's fans will be ready. I call one loss for the season. That would be at WV. Reason that place is spooky. Something weird about that place.

What was tech thinking on that play?

@DoubleDD no loss to wv, calling it

Pathetic Texas Tech will lose in overtime

Is the game just getting under way, or have I linked up to a replay with ESPN3?

@Crimsonorblue22

All right girl. Her we go.

If I was a betting man 1 million on tech to blow it

Never ever give Huggy a second chance. Big mistake.

@jaybate-1.0 what game?

@DoubleDD The fans are creepy

@RockChalkinTexas

Only if those fans come from Kentucky or North Carolina. LOL

Boy, KU looks like a very ordinary team tonight.

Tech. And WVU in OT...

@BeddieKU23 whoa

Squeaky is whining about the travel on post game.

Good job Livingston choke the game away

ummm, guys -- -we got a gift, we got A GIFT. This game should of went overtime, Svi no doubt traveled so easy to see. We have things we best get corrected and get corrected quick, like maybe try and learn how to play some D. Coach Self in his post game to have TWO STEALS at home? Mercy is the other teams around the league gonna be screaming lol. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@RockChalkinTexas

And west Virgina

@Blown need ear plugs to listen to him

TT upset city. Now that Perry is gone we need javon Carter is old jokes, dude looks like he gets a senior discount.

@jaybate-1.0 KU is 2 Landen Lucas career highs from being 0-2 and losing to TCU and giving up 90 to KState at home. Not feeling so great about this team if they can't learn to defend the ball and hit free throws.

Night all. Battery dying.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk!

:sleepy:

Us KU fans should be thankful that the refs made this a game.

NOT. This crew should be fired. Geez. Nobody comes to the game or watches the game so the refs can blow the whistle on every position.

Get a fucking clue. oops sorry.

2 games in a row JJ gets t'd up and shifts momentum. At the point of unacceptable.

Did Frank foul at the end? I missed that

@Crimsonorblue22 phantoms on frank. Phantoms on Lucas down low there in DJ close to the end.

@Blown said:

Squeaky is whining about the travel on post game.

Because the refs were spot on all night otherwise.

@Blown

There was so many phantoms? I forgot what a true foul looked liked.

@BeddieKU23 still betting?

@Bwag I thought they missed a lot both ways Main issue I have is they called 2 separate halves. Gottta establish early and stick to it. Not okay whack a mole what's a foul.

Jj's t hurt us too

If we don't start learning how to defend- - =not gonna matter how many fouls they call we looked BAD

Call it tight, let them play, I don't care. Pick one and stick to it. Make the players adjust, don't adjust to the players unless there's a reason to. I may have missed something, but it didn't seem like there was any reason to tighten up the calls down the stretch.

@Blown

Devonte is operable. You read it here first. He looks like a Frederick of Hollywood model. He has everything but crotchless panties on. I am watching the replay and KU is just sickening to watch...knowing they are playing the dregs.

@Texas-Hawk-10

It was stupid. You would have thought the second half was played in the prison league. Geez.

@jaybate-1.0 is Frederick of Hollywood still a thing?

@Bwag

You decide.

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@DoubleDD I understand tightening the game up if there's a scuffle or altercation or something like that, but unless I missed something, I never saw anything in this game to warrant tightening the game up.

@Blown Off till Sat - Now HCBS needs to run JJ on the steps till all he can do is shoot FT's But ONLY about 8 hrs worth ...

Bottomline

KU overcame a hot shooting Kstate team and refs that called fouls if you breathed on a guy.

Good win.

Holy cow, I wish I had watched this when it was actually on, so I would be done with it.

I want Nathan Adrian's hair. That dude has the best hair in the Big 12.

@jaybate-1.0 id say it is! Guess just don't see the catalogues like used to in the younger days.

Like the frills that thrill.

TT won

Tech it is.

WV goes down a game...an away game for sure, but down a game.

@Bwag huge win

Looks like KU is a team no one fears.

Good lord. I am looking at the stats and KU shot 50% from trey and only won 90-88

@jaybate-1.0 not defending nor able to hit FT's

@Texas-Hawk-10 ewwww

@Bwag

Is this Self's new secret weapon? He tries to let opponents score so much they get tired down the stretch?

@jaybate-1.0 playing Kentucky there. At this point I'd put that in the L column if I had to put my life on it.

@Texas-Hawk-10

Dude is a flopper...

@Bwag KU can still put points up. This team is plenty good enough to outscore Kentucky even in Rupp.

Its pretty obvious that he sent them out flat. Josh Jackson is the only one that looks even a little quick. Frank looks like he is in slow motion in a bad way, not in the psi way of earlier this season.

@JayHawkFanToo Doesn't change that he has the best hair in the Big 12.

Devonte has a hyper extended left elbow, and Jamari Traylor knees. ugh!!!

@BeddieKU23 did u bet me a million bucks?

OK...so it wasn't the prettiest game but the good guys won. Let's enjoy the win and quit ragging on the players, at least for the evening...

Self called it the worst Defensive team he's had at Kansas.

@Texas-Hawk-10 we can win. I wouldn't put my life on it. Their size may really give us issues.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said:

@Bwag KU can still put points up. This team is plenty good enough to outscore Kentucky even in Rupp.

Maybe it will come down to which team leans to play defense first (or best).

@Bwag they don't play D either. Need to play a few games in between there.

KU can play scary defense. It has shown it can. Give it time. Geez.. Playing great defense is harder than play great offense.

Just give it time.

It's coming.

@Blown said:

Self called it the worst Defensive team he’s had at Kansas.

I am so glad you posted that. I was beginning to think I was in an alien tractor beam and being made to watch this simulacrum of KU basketball while they drained my bodily fluids and filled my brain with strange memories of DNA extraction.

If Self sees the problem, then I am not in an altered state.

I would argue its not even a defensive team.

@jaybate-1.0

Mark it.

You'll eat those words.

Self is the riverboat gambler. You watch at some point this KU team will come out and show and exhibition on how to play defense.

If this team ends winning the big12 and goes anywhere, bill Self should be considered the best coach ever.

@DoubleDD I agree with you

@kjayhawks

ah you can't see what is in front of you. You're looking for style points. That doesn't matter. It's just about winning.

@DoubleDD true dat. We have had similar situations in the past but overcame them. Our guys are too good and too well coached to not eventuallyget their defense to championship levels.

@DoubleDD

Its pretty clear he decided to extend the legendary week of getting better into two weeks. These guys legs are completely dead.

And its pretty clear that he decided to make them labor by his age old trick of taking away all the stuff that works, and giving them no wrinkles.

And its pretty clear that he did it to try to make them beat a cellar dweller with defense.

But...they couldn't do it.

Down the stretch of both halves he cracked and gave them some stuff to run.

That's why he is calling them the worst defensive team he has ever had.

KSU is terrible. They are the kind of team that Self teams used to be able to strangle even when he purposely gave them junk that wouldn't work.

This team doesn't control a square inch of the court defensively.

Why?

Tonight it was because the legs were dead from "two weeks of getting better" aka killer practices working them relentlessly on every phase of the game. You know that's how its had to have been, because none of the guys were smiling. They all thought things were going so well that the rest of the season was going to be a march to the Carney. But Self threw them a curve and put them all in the toughening box. No more smiles from this team. The have felt the Self hate boner. They have been withered by the stinger.

Clearly Self looked at the schedule and said TCU, KSU, TTEch, OU and OSU could easily be beaten by 20-30 points each game and the team is going to get waaaaaay overconfident for the first good conference team we meet: ISU.

Clearly Self has made himself the teams fearsome opponent that the schedule does not supply right now.

But...

A KU team that cannot turn on Self Defense even under the most trying of conditions created by Self betrays a structural problem.

Devonte is probably playing operable below the waist and with a hyper extended elbow above; and its likely that it isn't going to change.

Self has decided to teach the team to win with Devonted the way he is.

KU will look much better shortly when Self lets up on their legs and their brains.

But...

But he would be resting Devonte now, if he thought it would help Devonte.

Inference: WYSIWYG with Devonte. The great player we saw last season is probably not coming back this season.

@jaybate-1.0 you might be onto something. dG and Mason both look slow. And Mason is not hustling back on d.

@jaybate-1.0

UM You're wrong. I don't like saying or saying that but KU players have been at home with their loved celebrating a Christian holiday, and bringing in a new year.

Coach has yet to break this team into his defense minded dreams. Yet it is coming. Keep in mind this a break threw season for Coach. He has scarped his tried and true to play a 4 and 1. However playing a 4 and 1 brings new challenges of playing defense.

Yet it is coming. Mark my words. it is coming.

P.S.: Self is a genius. But genius from time to time takes that don't pay off. Beating the piss out of a team that is going to have a short bench right now is a VERY big gamble, even if they win all these nothing games before ISU. The gamble is that the short rotation doing all this EXTRA work, when not needed, is going to lead to one of Self's occasional team burnouts down the stretch.

But again, he is playing for all of the marbles. His reasoning obviously is: this team isn't deep anymore and it is going to have to learn to play through sooner or later, if it is to get a title and make a run. But this really could blow up in his face.

@jaybate-1.0

Let me put it this way. KU wins the conference and makes history, and makes the final four.

I'm calling it.

@DoubleDD

I can guaranty you that you will walk on water with a beard before what you witnessed tonight had to do with turkey and New Years cheer. These are dead legs from the week of getting better that probably turned into two weeks, because, well, because Self just decided...what the heck, why not roll the dice and take they waaaaaaaaay out of their comfort zones.

@jaybate-1.0

I have no doubt that Coach would take our beloved to levels they don't understand, or even us. Yet mark my words KU will win 3 to 4 games this year with defense.

The riverboat gambler lives on.

@DoubleDD

Great. Its an absolutely crappy conference this season. You're not risking much.

But FF in the tournament? Without Devonte at 100 percent, and no depth at the post? And the defensive weak link with Devonte at 2/3s speed?

Now that is Ruth pointing at the fence.

@jaybate-1.0

Final Four baby. The little engine that could.

@DoubleDD

For what its worth, I just watched Devonte jump 3 inches off the floor while defending a break at 84-82 with 1;35 left.

@jaybate-1.0 I agree with you except for Devonte. I will watch him more on Saturday.

@jaybate-1.0

See you in the final 4. Just give me props when it happens. Not really give these KU players and Coach their props.

@jaybate-1.0 his arm's not bothering him while he's putting up half courters before every game and making them

@Crimsonorblue22 yeah I don't see anything wrong with his arm

I'm sorry to all posters. I know this is a free site to post what you wish. I just see things different than most.

A lot of KU fans see a team with to many flaws. Yet I see a team that is hardened. I see a team that will win when it counts. Whether they are playing a scrub team or a top studded team.

They may not look good winning, but winning is what they will do.

So I apologize if I offended any posters. Just know I believe this team is special. I don't care if they win by 20 or a last second shot. All I know is this team is full of winners.

Enjoy the ride.

@DoubleDD I don't think ksu is all that bad either

Would've killed me to lose to them at home☠

@jaybate-1.0 said:

@DoubleDD

Great. Its an absolutely crappy conference this season. You're not risking much.

Are you on drugs? The Big 12 is ranked the #1 conference, 3 of its teams are ranked in the top 5 by most rankings and one of those lost today, 8 out of 10 teams are ranked in the top 36 and the bottom 2 are in the top 70. You can call the Big 12 many names but crappy is not one of them. From top to bottom the Big 12 is the strongest conference in college bball.

@Crimsonorblue22

Nope big shot by Livingston

2 gifts in one night

@JayHawkFanToo said:

Are you on drugs? The Big 12 is ranked the #1 conference, 3 of its teams are ranked in the top 5 by most rankings and one of those lost today, 8 out of 10 teams are ranked in the top 36 and the bottom 2 are in the top 70. You can call the Big 12 many names but crappy is not one of them. From top to bottom the Big 12 is the strongest conference in college bball.

No, are you on drugs? each and every year, some nuts come out and declare big 12 the #1 conference and each and every year, big 12 fizzle's out. This year will be the same. Baylor and WVU won't even make it past the first round and let see if KSU even makes it.

I'm not sure you all know this but Self is simply trolling NCAA here. We are clearly light years ahead of all the teams in the big 12 and even if you take either one of our guards away, we still should beat TCU and KSU by 20+. Bill is doing this on purpose...he's trying to get the big 12 to look better so it help's KU. that has got to be it. Given our roster - #1 recruits, burger boys, seasoned guards....there is no way we should be winning by only 2 on a travel at home against a really crappy KSU team. I mean really- how many of you can even name more than 2 ksu players prior to tonight.

@elpoyo I easily could name more than 3 players just from having played them twice each year for the last 4 years and tell you that Marcus Foster left the little apple and is doing great at Creighton. You can give HCBS credit for a lot of things, but manufacturing a close game to make the league look better doesn't make sense. HE would have loved to smack Weber with a 20+ butt whooping.

I don't think this was the recruit I was thinking of but sorry @approxinfinity - not your 6'9" guy.

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@Blown said:

Self called it the worst Defensive team he's had at Kansas.

He isn't wrong. Fortunately it's also one of the better offensive teams.

@JayHawkFanToo said:

@jaybate-1.0 said:

Are you on drugs? The Big 12 is ranked the #1 conference,

No, I'm clean as always, but I am very worried about the bad junk that you just apparently speed balled and are now apparently caught in the confusing rush of, as you appear to release your surgical tubing! 🤓

You gave me the drug smear so, I'm just trying play it the way you want.

@DoubleDD , if I recall correctly, nailed this "Big 12 is great this season" junk. Addictively overrating the B12 happens almost every pre con year lately, at least as often as the B12 gets rolled early in the Carney.

The Carney Biz model apparently optimizes on over hype of the B12 in precon to make things work to a bottom line of balanced betting that lets the EST steam roll the B12 in the March. The system appears engineered front to back. But I'm not going to rely on that pattern and appearance of impropriety just because it fits well with your drug taking metaphor you gave me to apply to you; that's too easy for this conference time of season.

No one can SERIOUSLY look at TCU, KSU, TTECH, OU, and OSU and say this season, "Oooooh, even the bottom half of the B12 is stacked with talent" regardless of what the pre con stats suggest

ISU and UT don't look overloaded with talent either, frankly.

So what's inflating the stats to a misleading extent beyond the apparent engineering premise?

Here's the springboard for the illusion that your drugs are creating for you. The B12 has quite a few experienced, above average coaches trying to get out of the subbasement, basement and middle, and so they outcoach the midmajors and weak majors scheduled early, and their weak talent builds up some good "looking" numbers off that early lopsided edge in coaching that suggests more talent than is there, but that doesn't mean their teams have enough talent to finish in the top half of the B12, and do well in the apparently engineered Carney, where talent and mailing address appear paramount, and where coaching quality evens out much more than in precon.

Now, I've tried to talk you down here, but I think you may be far enough into this "Big 12 is great this year" junk hallucination that you may have to check yourself into a "creepy" rehab gig!

Man are you getting "creepy" with these drug metaphors!

Yeeee hawwww its conference season and bate 1.0 is playing some take what they give us!!!

I could swear I've read all this stuff in previous seasons. And yet at the end of the day who comes out on top of the psuedo-Big 12? Of course to some that is senseless as the only real accomplishment is the March Madness Crap-Shoot NC. Or at least the FF. How else can we expect to get a top recruiting class of OAD's?

@jaybate-1.0 said:

B12 has quite a few experienced, above average coaches

This is true and the reason the B12 is competitive. Some of those above average coaches have particular strengths in game preparation and management... others are good at finding unheralded talent and making it better... But almost every school is in very competent hands.

On any given night, a great team can be beaten.

Of course, the long haul (conference title) favors the team with a coach who has multiple talents (preparation & tactics & recruiting, etc.) and players with exceptional raw talent..

@jaybate-1.0

Can you show me a reputable publication...any reputable publication that indicates a conference other than the Big 12 is the top ranked? The conference is and has been consistently a top 2 conference the last few years. Keep in mind that conference rankings include all the teams and not only the better ones. The SEC has Kentucky and Florida and not much more, the ACC has 5 or 6 good teams but the bottom is pretty pitiful, same with the Big East.

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@jaybate-1.0

I'm not sure how we have arrived on the subject if the Big 12 is legit or not? I mean lets be honest a case can be made the Big 12 has sucked for the last decade or so. As KU wins the conference every year. I don't have a dog in that fight. I could care less. Besides Coach has had KU play one of the toughest schedules year in and your out. Don't really see the point?

Well unless you're just trying to down play KU's two conference wins this year, because they were close wins against so called bottom dwellers. That some how that equates to a below or average KU team?

No I'm not on drugs. Just went back and reread some of my posts and realized I was being a bit to bullish with my points of view. So I was trying to make amends.

I'll let you have your point for now. But don't come back in 3 weeks when KU and coach are rocking and rolling, talking about how Coach is the Zen master. Plus that somehow you were privy to all.

No you made your bed. You'll get sleep in it.