The real question is what's the chance the Maryland/Purdue game goes to OT?

Line is 10 1/2. Jesse has us covering.

@Bwag I only worry about the W and no injuries.

I do hate missing part of our game while the players shake hands and a coach makes a comment. Not fair ESPN

Paisley tie & stripe sportcoat-announcer dressed like a pimp 😂

Besides the W and no injuries, what do we need to accomplish today?

Dang, FT's! And a 1 Pt lead.

Let's go Hawks! Hope to see them come out with purpose and not let up. We are due two good halves. JJ score first?

Get Landon involved early, often and all game. He should dominate.

@Bwag

Watch this kid make just one of them.

@stoptheflop

Agree. It's rare that a team is as bad inside as ISU is. Gotta feed Lucas.

@BShark We don't need OT!

@Bwag need to shut up 🤐 Fran

Make this FT Purdue!

May have to go to Roku and ESPN app

LOL THESE REFS IN THE MD PUR GAME

Fricken kidding

You CAN'T call that wtf.

If only Sling had regional sensitivity

Player is NOT a genius ...

His toe was still down. Game over. Switch to KU!

Good bye East coast

Cutaway

Lucas got poked in the eye.

Awesome start. Not

Come on espn

@BeddieKU23

Pretty much expected after two big wins.

@BShark said:

after

At home no

Brunette beauty

LL out already Mitch in?

@BeddieKU23

ISU's superbowl tho

Jackson 4 pts Graham 2

@BeddieKU23 that is just how this team starts. It's possible they try to conserve energy.

@globaljaybird said:

LL out already Mitch in?

Lucas poked in the eye.

@BShark said:

@BeddieKU23

ISU's superbowl tho

We already beat them in tragic land. Wait it's a 2 a year now?

@globaljaybird poked in eye

Here we go with the trash.

Young is a lot better than Bowie lol

Fran will go on for hours

@globaljaybird I already have the announcers on mute.

Vick.,,,,,,,,

Nice pass

Fran waited until the Purdue game was over to spread the bad news.

Turn over clones

Frans beyond pitiful

Lando with the board

Turn over Hawks!

Fran on how "smart" MM is now

Great move and pass by Frank

Slow start on both ends, but the passing is getting guys open now.

@HawkChamp sweetness

@stoptheflop Fran makes me wanna earp

@stoptheflop said:

Lando with the board

Put this on loop for today basically.

Spell yes/coach no

Landen with 5 rbs

@BShark +100

Mason so smart, Fran

Minutes 4 Mitch at home 🏡

POTY

Need Frank to have a great scoring game to keep him at the top of the NPOY conversation.

Give em some pain Mitch

@HawkChamp hTR from Jesse

There will be beautiful sunlight on the court in the second half.

@BShark Get that shit💩Outta my basket yeah!

Put in Colbey

Drive the lane

LL Boards & hedges THATS a SMARTER player if ya ask me Fran

Just turning on the game now - 7 TOs already? Looks like we've been sloppy with the ball? Especially as ISU doesn't usually force that many...

ESPN only shows I State with 1 rb. 6/13 FG shooting. How are they in this game? Our 7 TOs?

@stoptheflop said:

ESPN only shows I State with 1 rb. 6/13 FG shooting. How are they in this game? Our 7 TOs?

Yeah they can't rebound at all, if other things equalize this becomes a blowout.

Goood pass to LL

@BShark it will become just that

Svi with 10 pts on 4/5 fgs.

SVI!

Mitch setting & holding screens for just the correct timing Easy to get called for moving - Ask Jamtray

If we could not turn it over that'd be great, be up 20

@globaljaybird

Little known fact Jamari legally changed his middle name to Moving Screen.

Gotta feed the Lucas bear as soon as possible. Feed the bear

@kjayhawks Lack of focus vs an inferior opponent JMO

Ruh roh Josh out Vick in

TCU up on UT 7 with 7 mins left

FLUSH!

They just can't help to talk about UNC and Duke

Fran sure has lots of excuses for ISU

Great hustle play by vick

Vick gotta sit 2 PFs

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ISU 5 seniors still NO DEFENSE!

@globaljaybird agreed but no reason to let a team hang around

Fran loves Niang

Prohm is a bad coach.

Up 11💩's on !!!

@RockChalkinTexas Fran just has no new material to relay-He's totally unpreparedNiang is a memory

Good stretch, gotta keep it up we are shooting 71% right now

DAT REBOUND STAT THO

Come on now, FEED THE BEAR Get Landen the ball

@globaljaybird you got that right. Why can't we get Miles Simon?

LOL BURTON TRYING TO GUARD POTY? Not a chance.

Frank can score at will on these guys - Any of them

Loving it....

Shooting the rock 71%, outrebounding them 18/3; how are we only up by 11?

@globaljaybird I've never trusted a man named Fran. He sounds like a great aunt.

76-63 TCU 2:03 left.

@stoptheflop said:

Shooting the rock 71%, outrebounding them 18/3; how are we only up by 11?

Been sloppy with the ball at times.

Ideal hell its their only flippin chance

BIFM $ on FT

50 in the 1st half!

@RockChalkinTexas Damn girl you called it !

Wow we gave up 38 first half points. They shot 50% 13/26.

Lucas in traffic. Nice for a change.

@stoptheflop but we have 52

Nice finish - love to see BIFM dish more this year - but, still scoring more...

Fran you shut your mouth. Mason is 100% better than Miles. Miles was a non-shooter and was passing to mostly NBA guys to rack up assists. I still love Miles though.

78-63 Horned Frogs with the sweep of the Horns. First time ever!!!

Frank fed the bear; Lando with 6pts 9 rbs

@Bwag he has had several nice plays. Solid half

@stoptheflop Yeah ISU is on pace to give up 102 - I think we're pretty safe

K State and Baylor on ESPN News at 2pm. Go cats.

Great play to end the half. Defense could be better, but offense is carrying the day so far. Self will want a better defensive effort in the second half

@stoptheflop said:

K State and Baylor on ESPN News at 2pm. Go cats.

On the road I wouldn't hold my breath especially with their recent form.

How about Frank 14 points 5 assists, good half. Only complaint is turnovers, we may have 70 points with out those. Come out ready these first 5 minutes and put it away so we can rest for Monday.

Is Coach K's coaching tree like a Hillbilly family tree-straight up with no branches?

Gotta stop Morris & Burton. 10 pts each.

@RockChalkinTexas Atleast burton has 2 fouls

9-9 on FT. Who called for that as a factor was :+1:

Nice half for Vick: 6 pts. 2 boards, 2 fouls

@stoptheflop Glad he showed he can put the negative behind him.

@Bwag said:

Is Coach K's coaching tree like a Hillbilly family tree-straight up with no branches?

LOL.

Also, announcer said Duke is back after they had a sloppy game and beat a 1 conference win game team by 8.

@stoptheflop he was very aggressive and looked to score. Good for him

The clones have NIT written all over them.

Dave Armstrong with the call on KState Baylor.

@stoptheflop

It's bad that I'd take Dave over Fran right?

@stoptheflop even though he is a homer for us prefer him over these 2

@BShark new nickname: Aunt Fran.

Most of the Bears have neon yellow leggings to go along with the uniforms. UGLY

Definitely watching Oregon Zona after this.

@KUSTEVE Great Great Aunt Fran.

Walton on the AZ/Oregon game. Bong boy gets another chance to run down AZ...must watch tv for me...lol.

@BShark Dave any day for me

Interesting LF has played over Coleby here, I think he's a better match up with ISU but Coleby has played well the last 2 games.

@KUSTEVE that will be a great game

@HawkChamp He's a KU homer, but I like him too

@HawkChamp I'm pulling for the Ducks. I like it when Stubby loses.

Frank needs another good half - 25 would help his stock.

Heck, might as well get 30, he's about half way there

Lets hold them to single digit rebounds.. Pour it on!

Wow unbelievably sloppy

:|

HCBS obviously didn't give the good halftime speech....

Frank thankfully stops the bleeding

lol refs

So frustrating to watch a team play so focused and then act like the game is over.

if Fran could shut his trap that would be great

We'll give you a break Fran.

Should it be a finger, nose or leg?

SFU Aunt Fran

Just because they can't play defense doesn't mean we shouldn't either....

Do they realize how unfocused and sloppy they look right now?

@RockChalkinTexas my words exactly

Frank 20 his bitch 11

@HawkInMizery maybe his jaw, kill 2 birds - 1 stone

I am going to break Frans legs. I just can't stand it anymore.

@HawkInMizery How you doing? Falcons gonna do it?

See the gal chasing ref down? It's me😳

Mason is having a career type game!

@Crimsonorblue22 hahaha!!! Solid way of puting that

Very simple solution to Fran: the mute button. It works great

@Bwag true that!

I wonder if Mr. Expert still thinks Frank is the 5th best point guard in the Big 12?

@RockChalkinTexas Good what about you? I don't really have a horse in the race but i would def prefer the Falcons over the Patriots.

Fran is such a dick, a lotta players get away with a travel from time to time.

@BeddieKU23 w/o him in so many games we would be toast.

@HawkChamp He has said nothing but good about FM.

KState up 17/10

15 friggin' TOs - not that many forced.....

@DCHawker major reason why they are still in the game.

BIFM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JJ seems distracted.

Wake up boys!!!

Correction - go for forty Frank

Where is our perimeter defense?

@RockChalkinTexas said:

JJ seems distracted.

Sitting at 8 points. Would bet he had that in first half of the first half

They have absolutely sucked since coming out of the locker rooms. Probably trying to save energy for Monday night.

@RockChalkinTexas said:

Where is our perimeter defense?

Same place as our interior defense???

@RockChalkinTexas In the paint like always

@kjayhawks he might be dickless

Feed Mason, play defense for a change this half

Letting them shoot 51% in AFH. We must defend better

@Crimsonorblue22 Aunt Frannie..the dickless wonder..

Can't even finish a lob play good grief.

When will our veteran team act like veterans? Frank is the only one acting like it right now.

@BShark The lob was half way up the back board. Devonte must play better. Only 7 pts.

Just no energy or recognition on the defensive end - leaving 3 point shooters wide open on the perimeter...

@BShark when they aren't focused, their play is very mediocre.

My feed on Watch ESPN sucks.

I would like our players to revert to just making careful passes rather than going for spectacular ones!

@stoptheflop said:

@BShark The lob was half way up the back board. Devonte must play better. Only 7 pts.

Devonte is half asleep for this game.

Why can't we have 1 easy game why

Need Mason back in there immediately.

Big swing there wide open alley OPP bad pass to a 3, 5 points swing. Wake the hell up boys.

This is the type of effort that results in an early upset in March.

We're shooting 56% from the field, 50% from 3, 85% on FTs and we have a 21!!!! RB margin - and only up 4. Jeez....

@BeddieKU23 said:

Why can't we have 1 easy game why

This team can't build a lead big enough for me to feel comfortable.

@Crimsonorblue22 said:

@kjayhawks he might be dickless

Ghostbusters?

KState still up 24/18

Gotta cut out the TOs.

Another bad pass by Devonte

Finally Mason back in.

@BShark said:

Finally Mason back in.

And just in time...

No way that was off us.

@RockChalkinTexas

Yeah that call was interesting.....

@stoptheflop said:

KState still up 24/18

How bad are Baylor's color schemes. Modern television technology can't produce a decent color correction/representation for viewing audience.

Or are all Bears' fans color blind?

@BeddieKU23 smart by FM to put that on the deck & drive it

When you don't try on defense this is what we get

Man, that three was DEEP for Long.

Iowa State wants to win and they are shooting well. Can our guys please match their intensity?

Josh!!!!!!

17 TO's

I think Frank needs to say, BIFM to his own team to wake them up!

3's can be daggers JJ

Need a new defender for long

Huge 3 by jackson

Great Pass JJ

Bailed out on that drive...

@BShark I think this is Dg's worst game in a long time.

@Bwag said:

17 TO's

Unbelievable against a team like ISU.

@BeddieKU23 said:

Need a new defender for long

That last three seemed well guarded.

We have 17 TOs and IState is shooting 51%, Come on fellas, play like your at home and want to win

Go Ksu!

Rough game after wed

@Crimsonorblue22

They will blow it

@Crimsonorblue22 said:

Go Ksu!

Holy crap

Wow K State!!

37/18 Ksucks!

Frank has not missed a shot. Wow

@Bwag excally what I was telling @globaljaybird we wouldn't shoot 70% this half had to clean it up.

Isu is due to miss a few threes

Unreal

Gonna lose at home to ISU

💩

@HawkChamp said:

Frank has not missed a shot. Wow

@HawkChamp too soon

This could be a loss. Our guys came out with zero energy this half and it could cost us

@BShark think so already?

@BShark baloney.

You guys give up way too easy

@KUSTEVE our guys are playing zero defense right now and have 18 turnovers. That is unacceptable

@KUSTEVE

Does this look like a team that is gonna get some stops?

@BShark does it get corrected in next 6 minutes?

We've given up 37 points in less than 14 minutes. We seem to play worse defense at home than on the road. Have seen this movie several times this year already...

@BShark yep. They aren't in a good spot right now

@BShark you give up at the slightest amount of resistance. we've got this.

Focus guys.

@KUSTEVE

lol

We have to get stops.

@KUSTEVE so you're happy with our play? Got them right where we want them?

One thing that has definitely hurt us is not finishing on 3 or 4 of the set plays HCBS has called after timeouts...

Better D by Svi there. Didn't overrespect MM drive

Stop and score

@Bwag said:

Stop and score

There's the stop

i can't beleie how many 3s they've buried getting ridiculous

can we stop the dumb turnovers????? Stone hands Landen

Can't believe how poor our entry passes and catching has been.

@Bwag I commented when somebody said we were going to lose. Is it ok with you if i think we'll win the game?

Why would throw the ball to lucas is beyond me

@KUSTEVE sure!

@HawkInMizery said:

i can't beleie how many 3s they've buried getting ridiculous

15 of 30

Seems how our 3 point d sux maybe our free throw down will come thru

Another turnover

Could we play any lazier on d, must get stops

Everyone needs a butt chewing from HCBS NOW

@DCHawker That's just a redonkulous amount. Volume shooting and their making 50%. Somethings gotta give they are even hitting heavily contested ones.

@BeddieKU23 Not when he is surrounded, especially! Twice when 3 guys around him in last 5 minutes.

Josh has been responsible for numerous turnovers

OK High time to stop this 💩Take it to the rack & don't stop

We're shooting better % in every category. TO's have given them more attempts.

Graham and Lucas haven't scored in the second half

Frank!!!!

@HawkChamp said:

Josh has been responsible for numerous turnovers

He and Lucas...

Lucky. It was not a charge

Career high 31

BIFM !!!

@HawkChamp said:

Career high 31

Hawk to Rock

Great steal by Josh!!!!

Eject Burton please what a POS

Completely unnecessary foul and should be a flagrant for the contact to the head.

JJ SEIN TWEETY

Don't kill Josh, Burton!

JJ throws it at the rim.

Needs to shoot it

@globaljaybird said:

JJ SEIN TWEETY

BS.

Not the shot we wanted there...

@DCHawker but I like the confidence from Svi.

@DCHawker said:

Not the shot we wanted there...

Didn't really run much offense.

Huge possession here. Let's get a stop

@DCHawker sometimes Frank is a little too unselfish. No one can stop him..

Whoever says we get calls here is full of 💩

@Crimsonorblue22 that and one for Frank earlier was pretty friendly :smile:

@Crimsonorblue22 yep that could have been a flagrant on Burton

they need to be right in morris' backside

@approxinfinity said:

@DCHawker but I like the confidence from Svi.

If he hits it, great. But didn't run much offense.

Need defense like the last possession vs Baylor.

2 very costly FTS by Josh and bad shot bye Svi

Inside to LL?

F**** - not the guy we want shooting and no time run off the clock...

Shot clock violation good.

2 terrible back to back Offensive sets.

Man our shot selection has been bad

F u Morris

Frank picked a hell of a time to start missing FTs

Frank time

How about we win it here?

I like our chances

Last shot get it inside to Lucas?

Can we execute. No more passes inside to Landen who is triple teamed. He should have passed that last ball to an open guard.

@DanR said:

Last shot get it inside to Lucas?

Sarcasm font I hope

I'm feeling Devonte.

@DanR no BITM !!!

GEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Come on Frank.

No one will expect Lucas to take the last shot

If I'm ISU I foul Josh no joke.

Landen screens for a Mason drive, have Svi and Graham on the perimeter fir a kick out, Lucas and Jackson crash the offensive glass.

@approxinfinity said:

I'm feeling Devonte.

Feeling what about him exactly???

@BShark no you don't foul anyone here

@DanR I don't know our choices at times today.

Well then overtime.

I thought Frank would make that.

Just don't turn it over!!!!!!!!!!

@BShark could have gotten a much better shot.

OT....ok...

@DCHawker lol. Just felt like being contrary.

Surprised frank didn't try to get fouled

Not a good possession to end the half.

@DanR all day bad!

I wouldn't mind seeing Burton foul out.

All because we missed fts.

Get burton out

Did anyone other than Frank score in the second half???? Only half in jest. Lucas didn't. Don't think Graham did.....

Last 7 possessions. 1 TO 4 misses. 1-4 at FT line. Jackson should only dunk 2 handed....or come out of the game.

Come on boys who wants it more?

@DanR said:

Surprised frank didn't try to get fouled

Was rewatching to see why he pulled up? Defense had pretty good position.

First time Lucas won the tip all year and they blow a whistle

wtf are we even doing right now? It shouldn't take this long to get set

I hate the iso for Frank. The play just doesn't have a lot of options if Frank doesn't get into the lane, and he won't draw a foul on a jumper.

Lid on the rim now...

Obviously we need to start making some shots

Man. I love the forced shot clock violations

@approxinfinity said:

Man. I love the forced shot clock violations

As much as I hate bad TOs....

@approxinfinity said:

Man. I love the forced shot clock violations

Not the TO's so much

woof

Tired legs.

UH - we haven't scored yet.....

Fight for the ball guys

Wow. Not good execution

We're done. Our guys are playing terribly. They deserve to lose

this is beyond ridiculous. They are just burying 3 after 3.

Thanks Josh this loss is on you!!!

Cutaways for our OT. Interesting ESPN!

Frans stumbling Whos he want Mor Burt hell I thought he's Naismith grandson LOL

Nice Svi

@BeddieKU23 No it's not, Frank's the only one who showed up in the second half.

No defense

Only good if we hit FT's

need points with the clock stopped glad we are in the double bonus.

That's a break - chance to cut it to 1 with no time off the clock...

@BeddieKU23 Whoa cowboy 🤠Several playing like💩

Probably a good foul by them...

JJ?

@Bwag said:

JJ?

That's 1

gotta get a stop

Bill thanks you for the timeout.

@BeddieKU23 strong words!

Left a lot of points at the FT line in the second half and OT...

make these Josh

Force them off the three point line

Lol Josh you just man

@Crimsonorblue22 said:

words

And deserved

Ouch

come on crowd.

Happened several times during the game - Svi ends up guarding no one...

@BeddieKU23 Svi is the one who just fell asleep on defense there and gave up an open 3.

Like I said Josh lost this game

@BeddieKU23 said:

Like I said Josh lost this game

False

What the he'll! Ku was up 14 when I went to my kids bday party. 18 freakin made 3s!?! Wtf

@dylans said:

What the he'll! Ku was up 14 when I went to my kids bday party. 18 freakin made 3s!?! Wtf

Yep lol

Mason Coast to Coast ....

Mason & LL came to play others not very much

Wellp.

Really - 24 foot shot is the best we could do????

This is a really bad loss.

So frustrated with the lack of intensity and smart play by our guys. They came out with zero energy and Bill did nothing to change it. Very disappointing.

Hopefully KState keeps kicking Baylor's ass in the 2nd half.

Svi?!? Mason was the man and Svi gets the last shot?!? Huge let down game.

Well. That's that.

Bad loss.

@BShark said:

This is a really bad loss.

On the other hand, it is a good win for ISU - really helps there NCAA chances...

25 shi**y minutes

Our guys beat themselves and Fran is happy. They should be fully embarrassed for how bad that second half was.

@BShark well after 2 top 4 wins. It makes sense that we had a down game. And it took some incredible 3 ball shooting for them to do it

@dylans terrible coaching not letting Frank make plays. Bad all around

I think we quit at halftime. It happens. No biggie.

Damn it I'm pissed can't make a ft, turn the ball over 22 times flat ass embarrassing

@HawkChamp Yes, the 2nd half was really bad. Combined with ISU being unconscious at times.
That's how we lose at home..........and why it doesn't happen often.
Some key missed FTs also contributed.

Probably looking at consecutive losses here.

Whole team loss but specifically the defense was horrendous.

@DCHawker looked like a variation on chop called for Svi and he lined up too far behind arc.

Huge missed opportunity....now go KSU...for today only.

@Hawk8086 said:

@HawkChamp Yes, the 2nd half was really bad. Combined with ISU being unconscious at times.
That's how we lose at home..........and why it doesn't happen often.
Some key missed FTs also contributed.

Kinda like a tournament game.

@approxinfinity no it doesn't make sense. Our guys choked this one away in Michigan style fashion. No adjustments whatsoever. This is how this team will lose in March

Is this our punishment for all the negative press?

geez, lots of hysteria here. lighten up, francis. we just played the toughest stretch of any team in college basketball. we were hit with a fake news explosion. worst case scenario, we end up tied for 1st in the b12.

Boy this brings WVU right back in to the race.

@KUSTEVE it does happen, but we've got to win the ones that are ours to win. this WAS one of them.

@KUSTEVE no biggie? We lost on our home court to a team that has lost nine games! We were up big and let ISU do whatever they wanted. Embarrassing effort from everyone

@approxinfinity said:

@DCHawker looked like a variation on chop called for Svi and he lined up too far behind arc.

Could well be, but DG had just hit one - might have liked his chance better on that shot since Svi hadn't seen a ball go in the hoop in a while...

Remember r this day people. These home 🏡 losses only happen every 1.3 years. Nice job from a team that wouldn't quit I can't say ours did We got out hustled &!beat. Now I'm pissed 😡 & that's a wrap for now. @Crimsonorblue22 drive safe talk wit ya later

@HawkChamp thanks, very well said!

@HawkChamp hey I'll still take our guys over anyone if I had to bet money in March. 20 wins 3 losses is pretty good. It was uninspired by coach and by players too. I'm sure they'll say the same.

Looked like alot of bickering amongst each other in the second half. Not sure if all the press is getting to then. Lucas a ton of rebounds but it doesn't help if you just hand them right back. Several of those. Missed FTS at inopportune times. Very lazy defense second half

@HawkChamp did you think we were going to be undefeated? we gave away a game. the 2008 national championship team lost 3 games in a week and half. i think they survived.

@approxinfinity crazy to me... Coach just sitting on the bench alot. Like "meh"...

Today, we saw the impact of a short bench. Tired legs happened in the second half because Self is a guy who doesn't sub down the stretch in close games. Bring in Vick's fresh legs for a bit and KU probably wins.

@cragarhawk agree. And those tough entry passed to LL into 2 defenders were really bad.

Embarrassing! Losing at home! I cant fraking believe it. What the actual frak!?

21 turnovers was the difference. I knew their sloppiness would catch up to them and it did in embarrassing fashion. I hope they use this to be SMARTER in the future. That was just awful, awful, awful basketball

@HawkChamp the sky is falling..oh my goodness...all is lost...

@HawkChamp well didn't we have over 50 at half? At least we didn't suck for a whole game.

@KUSTEVE the way they lost is frustrating. No energy to start the second half, sloppiness all around and they didn't force them off the three point line.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said:

@BeddieKU23 said:

Like I said Josh lost this game

False

True he turned the ball over I don't know how many times 2 feet from the basket and bricked 2 ft's

@approxinfinity yeah pretty pathetic.

Our defensive efficiency ratings are going to slide quite a bit off this one...This continues to project as the worst team defensively during the Self era. Being one of the best offensive teams makes up for a lot, but teams with our DER simply don't end up as NCAA champions...

@HawkChamp ok..you've had 15 posts in a row where you are apoplectic over this. we had a bad game. we'll play another one monday. the sun will rise tomorrow.

@DCHawker the reason is that they don't give much effort defensively for whatever reason.

@KUSTEVE thanks. I wasn't good at astronomy so I needed your help. Thanks coach

@DCHawker I'm behind this team and I think they can be good. But there has literally not been one total game that made me ever believe they cut down nets. I'll be happy to be proven wrong. But I think if they make the second weekend it'll be gravy

@cragarhawk yeah, we probably won't make the tournament now.

@cragarhawk i agree. They seem incapable of putting in the necessarily mental effort to make good decisions both halves.

Pissed off because we blew a 15 point lead, missed fts and silly silly turnovers. But it's one game boys Baylor is getting spanked by KSU. We will still be up but makes Monday a must win.

Well they were 9 of 27 last time from 3, this time 18 of 34. It wasn't the interior d that sucked. That's good.

@cragarhawk said:

@DCHawker I'm behind this team and I think they can be good. But there has literally not been one total game that made me ever believe they cut down nets. I'll be happy to be proven wrong. But I think if they make the second weekend it'll be gravy

Imo this team has FF ability (if match-ups break right) but I could also see them losing in their 2nd game to Middle Illinois Valley State.

@KUSTEVE thank you. I'm so glad you're here to police everyone's opinion that doesn't match with yours.

@kjayhawks all of our games are must win for seeding and the Big 12. It is stupid to rely on others losing

Oh and on my last post someone might think oh that could happen any team....well yeah it could but I thought for instance the 2010 team was a big time favourite for the NC... So I'm just comparing how I feel about this team to past teams.

@HawkChamp incapable of making good decisions? Come on man. Hope you mean just today.

And with that I'm gonna tap out from all KU boards until Monday have a pleasant weekend and nice Superbowl parties if that's your thing bucketeers.

@BShark I think that's a good assessment. It will definitely depend on the matchups

@BShark yeah this team reminds me of 2010 and 2011. Both of those teams were as lazy as I can remember any team being and both lost to vastly inferior teams

@HawkChamp come on Hawkchamp, do you really expect a top 3 team to be able to play smart and aggressive for a whole 40 minutes? then i suppose you think the coaching staff should make changes or adapt to anything that the other team is doing. then you expect us to win at HOME against a sub-par team. you really think we can play like this and not go far in march.

@BShark later man! Have fun

@cragarhawk I always appreciate folks with negative opinions piling on. Thank you for sharing yours.

I think they're pretty damn tough. But I also think something is going on right now. Or perhaps just this week. Idk if it's all the press or what. I just haven't seen the bickering amongst the backcourt like I did today. It's a lil bothersome

I know, let us all turn on each other like preschool soccer players! That will make us feel better!

@BeddieKU23 There's a difference between saying Jackson shares some of the blame, and he's the only reason like you're saying. Jackson absolutely deserves his share, but so does Graham who no showed on offense today, Svi whose defense prowess was exploited most of the second half, and Self for falling into old, bad habits of not subbing when his players were clearly running on fumes late d never brought in Vick, Lightfoot, or Coleby for a couple of minutes to let guys catch their breath.

There's plenty of blame to go around for this one and to pin it all on one guy is neglecting everyone who no showed the second half and OT.

@cragarhawk it could be the press. Bill needs to take control

Baylor will win

@Texas-Hawk-10 I am blaming it on Iowa State.

@HawkChamp Go ahead & jump ship We'll keep a life jacket for ya

@KUSTEVE well there you go. Perhaps it's simply the fact that every individual is different. To you my opinion is negative cause it doesnt agree with yours. And to me it's simply tempered and realistic based on what my eyes have seen. If I could see thru your eyes. That would be something wouldn't it

@autohawk you know that Kentucky in 2012 is the only team with less than 3 losses to win a championship in the last 17 years?

@globaljaybird not jumping ship just saying that this team is lazy mentally just like the 2010 and 2011 teams.

To everyone: "My advice to you is to drink heavily" I'm going to take my own advice.

@HawkChamp I'm not sure how much more Bill can really control. I mean he can't tuck them all into bed every night by 8 and such. All he can really do is give them the expectations and if they mess up..Punish accordingly.

@HawkChamp 2011-2012? You talking about the short-handed team that was tough as nails that took us to the finals and almost beat a loaded Kentucky team?

@cragarhawk 100 push ups for every bad pass.

@HawkChamp 100 per bad pass would kill a guy after this one lol

@approxinfinity that team was crazy tough mentally. Refuse to lose. It's actually a travesty on history that they had end up playing a UK team that was just way talented. That group outplayed UK. Truth be told they should have lost easily by double digits

@kjayhawks that's the point. Our guys get WAY too loose with the ball and it is frustrating that a supposedly veteran team can't shore that up.

@cragarhawk yeah man. Never have I been so proud after a loss as after that final. We just ran out of time. Had them on the ropes. If we had BMac and Jamari I think we win that one.

@HawkChamp Considering they have probably slept about 2 hours a night while freaking out as they undergo a national media crucifixion, maybe they were just totally exhausted. These kids are not, and couldn't be, used to the stresses they have been through.

Maybe give them a little benefit of the doubt before ascribing negative character flaws?

Perimeter defense could have been better, but ISU also made some tough shots. Especially Burton. Overall ISU shot 18-34 from 3 (53%) and broke a school record for 3's made in a game. Sometimes the other teams just plays pretty well. I wish ISU would do this in the NCAA tournament, though.

@approxinfinity oh I still think about the rebound that Trob got and he one handed it to outlet which he commonly did... And they stole it. And scored 2 to go up by 6 I think. I've said many times if we get that outlet and score that team was never gonna lose a game theyre within 4 pts with a minute to go

@mayjay no, they have been doing that crap all year.

@KirkIsMyHinrich school record? Wow.

@HawkChamp I agree look back on this thread, I was taking crap for saying we had to tighten up with a double digit lead or we would let them right back in it. I say everyone stays and makes 500 FTS had too many misses late.

@KirkIsMyHinrich idk if there is a stat for that. But seems like you don't win very many games when ya let the either team throw up 34 treys

Baylor is catching up. Down 7 with 4:43 to go

@HawkChamp I don't see lazy. Occasionally stupid (perhaps "ill-advised" is better?) but they are always moving. Just not to the right places sometimes....

@mayjay Lucas definitely had some lazy outlets. Which is disappointing cause he worked so hard on the glass. Then I think maybe what 4 TOS on JJ when he tried to go to the hole and just got stripped

@mayjay lazy mentally my friend. We had ten more turnovers than ISU. That really hurts when they are so sloppy. Do they even talk about it in practice?

@cragarhawk said:

Then I think maybe what 4 TOS on JJ when he tried to go to the hole and just got stripped

I am tired of his one-handed missed dunks... And getting fouled doesn't help if you miss FTs. I would prefer a protected-ball layup and a foul.

As an aside good for Steve Prohm. Huge win. they may get their chance to do this in the tournament. Definitely helps their resume.

Again, Svi overhelping cost three points with that corner three. What on earth did he think he was doing standing at the free throw line? He left his man wide open and put us down four. There's no way Bill teaches that is there?

@cragarhawk I think it might be the opposite actually. Usually when a team throws up that many 3's they don't win the game. On the season, Iowa State shoots 36.8% from the 3-point line and attempts 25 3's per game. If they shot 34 3's at around their season average then I think KU probably wins this by 8-10 points in regulation. But they were hot today.

@KirkIsMyHinrich and we did little to stop it. You have to force the other team off the three point line and make them shoot a tough shot over the top. Poor coaching today

Thank you, grapes.

Well thank you KSU. Of course, the flip side of that is....they have momentum, and will probably be even more pumped for us on Monday.

KSU scored 18 points in the second half.

Thanks KSU

@drgnslayr @nuleafjhawk alright which one of you guys didn't do your ritual today?

Better be more focused on Monday or we will be on a losing streak

@HawkChamp that's what bothers me I didn't think we played hard and when ksu beats us it's because they play harder.

@kjayhawks that is a constant theme, isn't it. It seems like our opponents always want it more than we do. I felt like that was true in the second half today.

@KUSTEVE Just ignore or humor them Jethro Yes our lives go in a normal fashion - but some who really knows?? WTH might normal be?

Well @rocketdog You &I sure as hell missed the boat on this one. I never saw this coming.

@globaljaybird me too!

@approxinfinity You won't believe me if i told you. I did the same thing as always - after the game i had to go grocery shopping (although i didn't have much of an appetite......) My brother in law calls and says " I know what went wrong! " Keep in mind, he's serious. I said " I do too, they played like a bunch of pussies in the second half ". He says " NO! I didn't have my lucky hat on - why didn't you remind me? "

So - i guess it is my fault.

@nuleafjhawk screw you dude. you ruined it for all of us!

I watched the game on my DVR because I was out. Why didn't anyone here warn me not to bother watching?