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Feb 05, 2017 07:35 PM #1

After a tough loss Saturday we don't have time to sulk in it. KSU had huge win Saturday at Baylor to help their post season chances. Big Monday for sure. What's everyones take??

Feb 05, 2017 07:37 PM #2

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Feb 05, 2017 07:48 PM #3

KSU has several capable three point shooters, so I'm not sure if zone would be a good option. Shouldn't throw out the possibility of using it, though. Can't let DJ Johnson have his way in the paint, which means that our guards will have to control dribble penetration in the paint so that DJ can't score off of dishes from the guards. On offense, we need to move the ball and attack the paint. Also need to get out in transition and get some easy points. That helped us last year.

Feb 05, 2017 08:00 PM #4

@HawkChamp I actually think we should zone them to clog up the lane. They have OK shooters but average from deep as a team. The way we play man defense, over helping and being outta position,that leads to open 3s aswell.

Feb 05, 2017 08:05 PM #5

I'd play man unless ll gets in foul trouble

Feb 05, 2017 08:05 PM #6

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Feb 05, 2017 08:07 PM #7

Think Bragg will be back? Ever?

Feb 05, 2017 08:16 PM #8

@Crimsonorblue22 I think once his diversion is done. I bet he is still practicing.

Feb 05, 2017 08:37 PM #9

@kjayhawks when is that? He is practicing

Feb 05, 2017 08:38 PM #10

@Crimsonorblue22 not sure his court date was moved from the 14th to march 4th but I think they handle diversions without a court date.

Feb 05, 2017 08:53 PM #11

@kjayhawks I thought a diversion was like a year

Feb 05, 2017 09:22 PM #12

@Crimsonorblue22 It usually is - -back in my not so good years - -I had one and yes it was a year. -- -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Feb 05, 2017 09:25 PM #13

@Crimsonorblue22 I agree - man first, then zone.

Feb 05, 2017 09:27 PM #14

@Crimsonorblue22

It depends on the type and severity of the offense. I seem to remember reading 6 months but I coul be wrong.

Feb 05, 2017 09:38 PM #15

My speeding ticket was a yearπŸ‘ŸπŸ’¨πŸ’¨πŸ’¨πŸ’¨

Feb 05, 2017 09:48 PM #16

@Crimsonorblue22 the way I understand it is basically once you get it, it allows you to get rehab or community service that last a year to keep you from getting convicted.

Feb 05, 2017 09:49 PM #17

@kjayhawks and if u mess up its bad news!

Feb 05, 2017 09:49 PM #18

@Crimsonorblue22 the question is once he enrolls in the program will he be reinstated??

Feb 05, 2017 09:51 PM #19

I'm predicting a loss.

Feb 05, 2017 09:58 PM #20

@BShark I hope not...We have a work streak and beer night @ the shop. They're is about 6 mildcats, 2 Jayhawks and a sooner boy.

Feb 05, 2017 10:02 PM #21

@BShark me too, but I hope that doesnt happen. Question: If they wouldn't have lost yesterday, would everyone be feeling more confident going into tomorrow?

Feb 05, 2017 10:05 PM #22

@HawkChamp no! Refocus!

Feb 05, 2017 10:20 PM #23

@HawkChamp with the way we lost yes. But it's their super bowl, effort is a must.

Feb 05, 2017 10:23 PM #24

We beat the purple puzzies 94-79. Bruce Weber's mascara will run all night long,

Feb 05, 2017 10:43 PM #25

@Crimsonorblue22

How fast were you driving...or should I say flying?

In my area, as long as you are not way over the limit, they double the fine and amend it to a defective equipment/non moving violation.

Feb 05, 2017 10:45 PM #26

@JayHawkFanToo forgot! I made it a year though. Lead foot

Feb 05, 2017 11:36 PM #27

@JayHawkFanToo I bet he's playing.

Feb 06, 2017 12:42 AM #28

What level of infraction do you no longer get to practice, but stay on the team? I have always wondered about this?

Feb 06, 2017 12:44 AM #29

Has self announced if Bragg is zero tolerance yet?

Feb 06, 2017 12:53 AM #30

@jaybate-1.0 I bet no practice, you are gone.

Feb 06, 2017 02:23 AM #31

I feel confident going into every game. I don't know what's wrong with some of you guys.

Well, obviously, being negative (which is easy) makes you feel like YOU win when KU loses, but other than that, WTF?

Feb 06, 2017 02:36 AM #32

Before the season started, I had a conversation with a die-hard (terminally pessimist) KU fan--the guy claimed he could tell in the first 5 minutes whether KU was going to lose (basically, every game... I agree during the Roy years you could tell if the team showed up).

He predicted this year we would finish 4th in the B12. I asked him how many conference games he thought we would lose, and he said "four." I reminded him that 4 conference losses would have won the B12 at least 10 of the last 12 years.

That's how many I think we might lose and still end up on top in the conference. Maybe a 2 seed, maybe a 1. I like our chances in the big dance as well as anyone's, AGAIN, year after year.

Feb 06, 2017 02:47 AM #33

@DanR

I like our chances Monday. We are coming off a tough loss and have something to prove.... the kitties coming off a big win so will still be in party mode.

Feb 06, 2017 03:18 AM #34

I know that Bragg was on the bus to Manhattan, that's all I know.

Feb 06, 2017 03:22 AM #35

@DanR I try to keep it real above all, my some of my buddies always text me when I think the game is over. I'm right about 9 of 10 times, I said the game was over Saturday after the first 4 minutes of the second half. A blind man could see we had no hustle or energy what so ever and when you give a team hope like that on the road, its dangerous.

Feb 06, 2017 03:49 AM #36

@kjayhawks What other games have you predicted were over, that's the point. Pretty sure you're predicting a first round loss in the tourney already, right?

Feb 06, 2017 03:56 AM #37

hey, @kjayhawks, My apologies, you're not the negative nancy I was thinking of. :hand:

Feb 06, 2017 04:11 AM #38

@kjayhawks

Awesome on the ground intel. Thanks.

Feb 06, 2017 04:13 AM #39

@Crimsonorblue22

I suspect you are correct in most cases.

Feb 06, 2017 05:16 AM #40

@DanR lol I'm not sure what to predict yet in March, I've compared this team to 04-05 but still not sure tomorrow will mean a lot on how I predict march.

Feb 06, 2017 03:32 PM #41

Ahh gameday, the most glorious of days! Off to the stop sign of stupid to pound some pussycats!!!

Feb 06, 2017 03:57 PM #42

I found an alum singing the EMAW Song....have a listen

Feb 06, 2017 03:59 PM #43

On another note, Have we ever heard Self offer unsolicited remarks about how tired his team is as frequently as we have this year? Seems like every presser he's talking about how thin this team is and how tired they are. Didn't the '12 team basically play 5 +KY & Connor?

Feb 06, 2017 04:00 PM #44

@Blown sounds like excuses to me.

Feb 06, 2017 04:02 PM #45

@HawkChamp I would think so as well, but in 14 years being here, his MO would be to call them soft or something or "just not that tough.' If he is saying they are tired, there has to be something to it. Just not in the Okie Baller to make excuses--unless he's getting 'soft'.

Feb 06, 2017 04:05 PM #46

Well with Bragg traveling with the team question is - - Does he play? - - yes or no? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Feb 06, 2017 04:06 PM #47

Self texted that Bragg made the trip to Manhattan with the team on Sunday evening but that he had not yet decided if Bragg would play.

Feb 06, 2017 04:08 PM #48

@jayballer 54

I vote "yes".

Feb 06, 2017 04:23 PM #49

@Blown mentally. Kentucky then Baylor, off the court πŸ’©, Injuries. Coach has had to deal w/more than most coaches lately. Not excuses.

Feb 06, 2017 04:34 PM #50

If Bragg travels and doesn't play, then the Riverboat Gambler played a big bluff on Bruce.

You know the plan for Bruce will be to attack in the paint.

I like the idea of playing Carlton along side Landen.... let's bring them the unexpected and ATTACK THEIR POST!

Plus... this can only make our guards hungry again.... starting with defense.

Feb 06, 2017 05:05 PM #51

@Blown that's certainly possible

Feb 06, 2017 06:08 PM #52

I say he plays, why else would he go??

Feb 06, 2017 06:23 PM #53

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Feb 06, 2017 06:27 PM #54

Bragg is suiting up, can play

Feb 06, 2017 06:27 PM #55

Carlton Bragg's indefinite suspension is over, per Bill Self. He'll suit for tonight's #kubball game at K-State.

Feb 06, 2017 06:37 PM #56

Ku has won 74 of 85 games (87%) in series since 1984 and 61 of 68 (90%) since 1990.

Feb 06, 2017 06:38 PM #57

@Crimsonorblue22 yep just heard

Feb 06, 2017 06:53 PM #58

@Crimsonorblue22 Drug charge will be dismissed in 6 months if he keeps his nose clean. Guess we'll see how bad he wants to stay at KU.

Feb 06, 2017 08:26 PM #59

@brooksmd

I thought I had read 6 months somewhere; thank you for the info.

Now that Bragg will not have the munchies...will he lose the 30 pounds he gained last summer? Inquiring minds want to know... :smiley:

Feb 06, 2017 08:35 PM #60

Maybe Bragg can come out in attack mode, now that the 'fog' has lifted. Lets try 2 bigs (LL+CB ) in a traditional hi-low, and frustrate DJWilliams quickly.

I think we have our hands full this game, but I also think the Jayhawks are a bit ticked off, and that RedFacedAngryMan has likely been breathing down their neck about allowing 90pts in AFH from an unranked team...

Feb 06, 2017 08:38 PM #61

@ralster

Or how about we attack Williams in the post? Foul him out. We turn the table and gain a huge advantage in the low post.

Feb 06, 2017 08:40 PM #62

@drgnslayr Yep, that was my idea, to attack him to foul him out with bigs, but we can attack with Frank, JJ, Svi, Devonte also.

Feb 06, 2017 08:44 PM #63

@drgnslayr like we should have fouled out Burton. He was big 12 player of the week😑

Feb 06, 2017 08:49 PM #64

@Crimsonorblue22

Well...he benefited from the familiar KU tradition of letting a nondescript opponent player have a career day... :gift:

Feb 06, 2017 09:54 PM #65

@ralster johnson

Feb 06, 2017 10:01 PM #66

Here's my take:

If K-State hits 18 3 pointers and we have 21 turnovers I will never waste my time watching again.

Feb 06, 2017 10:17 PM #67

Bragg suiting up?

Feb 06, 2017 10:25 PM #68

@KansasComet

Yes, Bragg will be playing.

Feb 06, 2017 10:42 PM #69

@JayHawkFanToo Good deal. Hopefully he is ready to make a difference?

Feb 06, 2017 10:43 PM #70

@KansasComet

One would think his mind is a little clearer now.. :smiley:

Feb 06, 2017 10:46 PM #71

@JayHawkFanToo I think so. If he plays to his potential around the basket and mixes in a constant jumper around the free throw line, we could be really really dangerous.

Feb 06, 2017 10:47 PM #72

@KansasComet man is he going to hear from the fans tonight!πŸš¬πŸ’¨πŸ’¨πŸ’¨πŸ˜¬

Feb 06, 2017 10:49 PM #73

@Crimsonorblue22 You are right. I think he can handle it. He will be happy to get back on the court. He has to feel bad about missing the ISU game.

Feb 06, 2017 11:12 PM #74

@KansasComet

This is exactly what we all had envisioned for Bragg at he beginning of the season and even basketball analysts had him as the KU breakout player but it did not work out that way, although there are 8 games left to play plus conference tournament and the Dance so he has time to turn it around At this time I would say he needs to come back next year but them I though Diallo needed to come back too... which goes to show how much I know. :smiley:

Feb 06, 2017 11:13 PM #75

I hope that Bragg can make it through this next 6 months without a positive weed test. If he walks into a party where someone is smoking, it will show up in his urine. He needs some help. It is not as addicting as the pills or other stuff, but obviously, this has been going on for a while. If you re-watch the game, he was very good against Duke. Then he began to look like he couldn't tie his own shoelace. We have been disappointed in him, but it is time to forgive and hope he seeks help. Sorry to say this to all of the Lightfoot and Colby fans, but Carlton is a much better basketball player than they are. We all have different attitudes towards what Coach should do, but those of you that want to kick him off the team have a different leaning than I do.

Feb 07, 2017 12:57 AM #76

@kjayhawks KU better effing win this game. Thats my take.

Feb 07, 2017 01:06 AM #77

@Lulufulu my exact thoughts. I don't really care if we win by 2 or 20. Just win and get back on track for winning another Big 12 title.

HAWKS!

Feb 07, 2017 01:12 AM #78

@joeloveshawks amen

Feb 07, 2017 01:20 AM #79

@wrwlumpy Some go to school to learn. Others go just to party. We will see what Carlton is made of and whether those closest to him will keep him on the right path. I would hate to see him blow this chance he has been given as you don't know if you will get the same chance IF there is a next time. Hope he thinks long and hard about his future. Kids these days :smiley:

Feb 07, 2017 03:40 PM #80

I have to admit, it's pretty darn cute when K-State fans actually think they can beat us. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

Feb 08, 2017 12:17 AM #81

@nuleafjhawk HA!