Some interesting games tonight.
SDSU is up on WSU but it's early.
Nevada taking it to TTU.
WVU up on UVA so far.
Some interesting games tonight.
SDSU is up on WSU but it's early.
Nevada taking it to TTU.
WVU up on UVA so far.
Villanova taking Gonzaga to the woodshed. Villanova is forcing lots of turnovers and getting to the basket with ease midway through 2nd half.
Nova is real good.
@jayballer54 - turned it off after I had to listen -again - about Smart beating KU in the Elite 8. That’s his best ever game, and if the Morris brothers had kept quiet, I still think KU would have won. 🤬🤬🤬
jay Wright is a pretty good coach. - - Jaylen Brunson - -really solid guard - I truly didn't think he would stay all 4 years nothing flashy -- just gets it done. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Gorilla72 said:
@jayballer54 - turned it off after I had to listen -again - about Smart beating KU in the Elite 8. That’s his best ever game, and if the Morris brothers had kept quiet, I still think KU would have won. 🤬🤬🤬
Ya? - - I missed that statement - -I would of turned too lol. - -kind of hard anyways trying to keep up watching 3 games at the same time lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Story developing in South Bend, Indiana....
Texas trying to choke the game away - -was up by 19 - -NOW up by 2 with 4:38 to go - -Nice job Shaka. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
Story developing in South Bend, Indiana....
About what? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BAY
jayballer54 said:
BShark said:
Story developing in South Bend, Indiana....
About what? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BAY
Ball State 69 Notre Dame 66 at the under 4 timeout.
BShark said:
jayballer54 said:
BShark said:
Story developing in South Bend, Indiana....
About what? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BAY
Ball State 69 Notre Dame 66 at the under 4 timeout.
Lots of crazy games tonight. Texas has managed to throw away their 19 point lead they had during the 2nd half - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Ball State wins with a buzzer beating 3.
WVU beats Virginia. Really good win for the league.
BShark said:
WVU beats Virginia. Really good win for the league.
Wow South Dakota State up by 8 over Wichita state at the half. - -Texas beats VCU 71-67 - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Wichita State down10 to South Dakota State at the 18:39 mark. I expect they’ll come back though.
Gorilla72 said:
Wichita State down10 to South Dakota State at the 18:39 mark. I expect they’ll come back though.
You would think and that's at Wichita State. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Ball State beats Norte Dame tonight too crazy Night. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Watching Texas A&M vs Arizona. US Airways Center looks only half full for this game. Wow...
Gorilla72 said:
Watching Texas A&M vs Arizona. US Airways Center looks only half full for this game. Wow...
I'm glad we have A&M - in Lawrence - pretty solid - didn't realize they were ranked # 7 - -Man what would it been like if Ayton would of ended up coming to Ku - -he is huge - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Damn - -Florida got their butt beat last night so they say - -got blasted by Florida St - -what's going on -what's in the water lmao - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I hate Ayton so much. The dude is a total freak show and would make KU a title team this year. Not sure anyone else is close.
FarmerJayhawk said:
I hate Ayton so much. The dude is a total freak show and would make KU a title team this year. Not sure anyone else is close.
Ya that is still a weird recruitment - -we supposedly in such good shape the entire way and then BAM - - Arizona? - - -Arizona - -where that come from still wonder about that whole deal.
Walton with the statement of the year - -Again - he says Best college game of the year lmao - this guy lol. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Texas Tech taking Nevada into overtime. - -Nevada ranked #22 in the Nation. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Nebraska is up 8 on #14 Minnesota at the half.
Nebraska beats Minnesota in big upset.
Big win for a Tech over #22 Nevada in OT.
Wichita gets it together and comes back to beat SDSU.
Arizona barely gets by A&M. Davis is really good but Ayton is better and A&M has no outside game and Arizona is not that good either.
Bad loss for Notre Dame, good wins for West Virginia and TCU.
Texas almost gave away the game to Shaka’s old school VCU.
With KSU win the Big 12 goes 5-o.
It was an OK game but game of the year? No, not even close. Interesting, in the recap a ESPN lists Davis as having 21 points and 10 rebounds when he only had 2; Ayton had 10 rebounds.
jayballer54 said:
jay Wright is a pretty good coach. - - Jaylen Brunson - -really solid guard - I truly didn't think he would stay all 4 years nothing flashy -- just gets it done. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Kid will graduate after this year and head to the pro's.
@JayHawkFanToo Some quality wins for the big 12 last night. Texas Tech beats # 22 in overtime after trialing pretty much the entire game. -West Virginia . Beats # 15 Virginia , & TCU beats a quality SMU - - nice wins for all. -- Texas tried to do everything it could to pee away all of it's 19 point lead they had in the 2nd half , but managed to hang on -- -on the road at VCU - -& K-State - - -Well , they scrimmaged last night. - -good night for the Big 12. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
JayHawkFanToo said:
It was an OK game but game of the year? No, not even close. Interesting, in the recap a ESPN lists Davis as having 21 points and 10 rebounds when he only had 2; Ayton had 10 rebounds.
Ya when space Captain Walton said that right at half time - - al I could do was laugh and shake my head, this guy - -hell he spent 3/4 of the game asking the play by play guy what his name was and some other just off the wall typical Bill Walton mish mash lol - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I came away less impressed with A & M than what I had originally thought. Guard play looks like an issue, and why in the world is Kennedy playing his bigs on the perimeter??? I don't like their offensive approach at all.
@BeddieKU23 Arizona's defense was solid. A&m is no offensive juggernaut
I agree Zona slowed the game down and used their pack line defense to limit A&M from scoring.
Once Alkins returns for Zona look out. Gives them that 3rd scorer alongside the Trier/Ayton combo. Takes a lot less pressure off their freshman guards to produce. They will be really tough to beat once he's full go which is going to happen soon according to reports. I expect to see them rounding back into preseason hype over the next few months.
KU & Arizona are two teams that have the chance to improve a good amount with mid-season additions
Nova looked like one of the best teams in America last night. Mikal Bridges has grown into a potential lotto pick. Having Spellman in the middle really helps them on the boards and protecting the rim. They just look like a typical smart Nova teams with plenty of options. They lack a true go-to guy like they had last season but they may avoid situations for much of the year where that's going to matter much. It looks like most nights Brunson & Bridges can carry the team and everyone else just fills their role. Jay Wright continues to put out a high quality product on the court despite losing multiple starters. The Big East will test them this season which should be an ultra competitive league this year.
As for last nights game with Gonzaga I thought it was a bad matchup for the Zags. They don't have the talent they had last year and Nova was a more complete basketball team and it showed big time for large stretches of the game.
I agree. Other than their bigs they don't have much of anything, a good outside shooter could have put that game away but they kept passing open looks to go inside. Like I said before, Arizona will continue to improve and with the talent it has is a legitimate top 10 maybe even top 5.
Everytime I see Nova trap the ball at half court, and in the corners, I just wish we would try doing the same thing. Maybe not every play, but man does that generate turnovers, and run outs.
@JayHawkFanToo Even when A & M went inside, they don't do any seal offs that I could see- it was alot of those 4 to 6 foot jumpers. I was thinking paper tiger watching Kennedy's offense. I have zero fear of them.
@KUSTEVE but you know they will play their best coming into Allen Fieldhouse. Pigs will fly before a team doesn't come amped up to play us.
But overall I saw what you saw last night - a team that can be pretty good defensively but not exactly dynamic offensively like Duke or Michigan State or our guys.
@KUSTEVE TAM's ranks 36th in the nation in rebound margin. Not bad. KU is 56th. What negative impact did you see from the failure to seal? Perhaps their rebound margin was bulked up against bad teams. And rebound margin can be affected on the offensive end if you make shots -- not as many available rebounds, but also for the opposition(the other way around) because they have more balls to rebound -- so both affect the margin. We're 3rd, TAM is 49th there.
If the guard from A&M could have made all three of his FT's this game might have ended differently in OT. Ayton fouled the shooter with just a few seconds left in the game. He missed one and that sealed their fate.
We've seen better offensive performances from A&M this season. Any casual fan could have tuned into KU's game against Kentucky or Syracuse and seen that KU hasn't exactly lit up the world against better competition either
These were two teams that could be bound for the later stages of the tournament. I thought A&M did an excellent job of limiting Ayton to quality shots because Zona played two bigs primarily A&M was able to leave the other big alone and trap him. Against KU A&M probably doesn't get that luxury if they try and double/triple team Doke down in the low post. A&M's length will bother us though especially pogo stick Williams who's a bigger version of Jordan Bell.
He had made 17-18 or something like it prior to that.
Davis and Ayton are the real deal. Davis will be hard to stop with what we have but his rebounding was limited to 2 at this game. ESPN was hyping up the Ayton-Wiliams match up and I understand he is the higher ranked player but Davis is in my opinion the best player on the team. A&M has 7 players 6'-9" or taller.
Funny take. On the Arizona last foul on the 3 point attempt the refs went to review if his foot was on the line...of the NBA 3 -point line; he was well behind the college 3-point line. :smile:
@HighEliteMajor They don't post up. reminds me of Baylor. They had a decided advantage down low, especially against Ristic, and never challenged him. How many times have we seen Baylor have one of the tallest front lines in basketball, and never play to the strengths? I thought the whole A & M team looked a little slow and cumbersome on offense.
That was funny.
I agree Davis is the best player on their team.
Williams hasn't looked the part of a lotto pick so far in his 2nd year. He might have stayed a season too long stock wise
It sure did not look like top 5 team last night. We will find out soon enough...
I don't believe we've seen A&M's best basketball yet. Remember they started the season down 2 starters and they are just now getting into game action on a regular basis. I still think they look like the best team in the SEC and by the time they come to Allen Fieldhouse this could be a team well equipped to give us a serious challenge
We all remember TAM giving Self one of his few home losses ... no repeats, please.
@HighEliteMajor amen to that brother
@HighEliteMajor KU by 15. I think WVU will give us a much better game.
@KUSTEVE @HawkChamp Huggins loves his bonus lol
@HighEliteMajor that was a good game, Acie Law, that’s a name I haven’t heard or thought of in a long time. He hit a tightly guarded 3 on Rush to seal it.
HighEliteMajor said:
We all remember TAM giving Self one of his few home losses ... no repeats, please.
I...was...there... :face_palm: Only KU loss I’ve personally attended. Acie Law IV killed it that night.
@kjayhawks I’ve seen KU beat the sooners in football. (Terry Allen I think)
I’ve honestly lost track of the amount of games I’ve been to, but I’d say roughly 75 games in Allen Fieldhouse and 3 in the Sprint Center.
I wish it were more.
@HighEliteMajor Ouch. Glad I wasn’t in public myself. I wasn’t very impressed either time.
Well I’m hoping to see Sosinksi in person during the Omaha “game”
@dylans Yes, 1998 would be the last W for us bs OU in FB. Ya I’ve been to a B.B. game every year since 09. I’m only 2.5 hours from Lawrence. It just too expensive to go a ton, we’ve considered relocating to Lawrence but my wife would hate me going to all sorts of games and we’d go broke lol.
@HighEliteMajor I was madder than a one legged waiter working at IHOP atfter the Richmond game.
@kjayhawks I had season tickets for a few years as a student. Now it’s a 6 1/2 hour drive to Lawrence so once or twice a season is it.
The Big12 tournament is a blast (esp. if KU wins it), but you can’t beat Allen Fieldhouse.
Best time is for the Big 12 Tournament, the weather is usually nice and the entire area (Power and Light District) is jumping. If you can't get tickets you can watch the games on the big screen. Huge party.
A few figures from the KU site, enjoy them...
Hey Rooster...let's kick some Huskie ass! RCJHGKU!
@Red.Rooster to dang close, dumb foul by Doke!
@Crimsonorblue22 Dumb foul on Mitch!??
@Red.Rooster calling them close!
has an oregon game feel. Team just doesn't have much energy or smarts right now.
@HawkChamp Amen !!!
And there's Malik playing stupid on the break. Coaching staff really needs to have a chat with him about playing smart.
Boy oh boy got to play without fouling. Can't put the refs in a position to blow the whistle, which is what I always kept in mind as a player.
Clay can't hang
Dumb shot after dumb shot. Why are they so timid in the middle of the zone? Good grief
@Crimsonorblue22 Dok has to play smarter. That is the only solution right now. There is no other option.
@HawkChamp Yes.....Vick looked so good in the middle against Cuse..........now he looks bad....just shoot it. Garrett doesn't even look at the basket in the middle.......why put him there?
Worse half of the season. Don’t seem to know how to deal with the extended zone. Hopefully Coach Self can get them straightened at half time.
Fan hubris before the game was a good indicator of Team hubris
Devonte’s legs legs look gone
Dokes a baby
Play the fb player
Man, this was what I was talking about yesterday. Ku can’t make treys, and Huskies look very comfy in their schemes finally. Also Boeheim gave them a good scout. We would be blown out without La Cobra striking for twos repeatedly
Cannot make treys
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Play the fb player
Ditto
This more like it. Doke took out the pacifier and started planting!!!
We owe this game to LaCobra!!!
I hate fran
Who the hell told me these Huskies were no good!! ??????
Svi and Malik stink!
Garrett should never shoot a trey.
Devonte injured something against Cuse and is about 3/4 speed.
The Cobra is the only one that came to play.
@jaybate-1.0 and he can't pass
Man our defense!
It sucks ... Home game at Kemper !!!
Outcoached tonight. Plain and simple.
@jaybate-1.0 Every year just like clock work, someone has a bad and they are hurt arrcording to you. Washington was more athletic than any team we have faced baring maybe a super young UK. DTG has played good for 2 whole games outta 8. Svi must be hurt he shot well under his average, Newman has been hurt all year I suppose too. Pretty much every tonight was hurt I reckon.
2-3 zone is Bill Self's kryptonite. They looked horrible. Vick was the absolute ounce of life.
However, Washington experienced lightening in a bottle. They won't do it again all year. Every damn team does this to KU. Teams play up and KU plays down. It's amazing every year to watch it happen. Washington had to be that team.
@Crimsonorblue22 What defense? It was anything but defense.
@jaybate-1.0 Garrett has shown some flashes, but nothing that makes him anywhere near a freshman sensation.
Graham may have one of the most inconsistent years at KU.
Who is Newman?
Hell...even Lightfoot showed some life.
Doke looked panicked most of the game.
Young may have been the best player tonight in terms of effort.
Gawd, I'm SO pissed right now and Self better not come out with any of his stupid curt comments about the game. The HOF coach got his ass outcoached, sorry, but the coaching or scouting for this game was a complete failure.
kjayhawks said:
@jaybate-1.0 Every year just like clock work, someone has a bad and they are hurt arrcording to you. Washington was more athletic than any team we have faced baring maybe a super young UK. DTG has played good for 2 whole games outta 8. Svi must be hurt he shot well under his average, Newman has been hurt all year I suppose too. Pretty much every tonight was hurt I reckon.
Every year I am proven right. Injury is always shaping outcomes and limiting options and forcing teams and players to play other than the way fans expect. Every year certain fans jump to reductive conclusions that the coach got outcoached, and nothing else was involved. Every year, certain fans confuse oversimplification with elegant explanation. Every year I go through this with someone.
I look forward to going through it with you this season.
Rock Chalk!
@jaybate-1.0 no you aren't proven right every year. You are excusing crappy play (plus poor game planning) for injuries. Its just flat out silly and is not a logical explanation for losses except where someone does not play. Ku beat themselves today.
@truehawk93 recruiting and the fundamentals have been pretty poor the last four years. The type of players, not the rankings, has been off too. We need beefy, tough, defensive minded players who aren't going to get bullied and won't take crap. The last few years we have had mostly soft offensive minded players, and each year lost to the tough, defensive oriented groups. This years team won't make the final four because they have little defensive ability and only want to shoot. As history has shown, that doesn't work well in March.
HawkChamp said:
@jaybate-1.0 no you aren't proven right every year. You are excusing crappy play (plus poor game planning) for injuries. Its just flat out silly and is not a logical explanation for losses except where someone does not play. Ku beat themselves today.
Never. I never do that. Certain board rats just don't notice my multifactorial analysis of the poor play, especially in this case involving the loss of poise and quitting, the latter of which is the absolute WORST kind of play.
I ALWAYS include most of the drivers of defeat, or victory, that I can think of. Injury often is a factor. But rarely the only factor. I may miss a few, and then other folks make the necessary additions.
But there are always a few reductive board rats that struggle with keeping more than one driver of outcome in mind, especially when disappointed with a loss, and so get their keyboards in a wad about one driver, rather than looking at the array of drivers I discuss.
This is one of those games where UW just shot better. If you think Self coached KU to shoot 25% from trey and 50% from the FT stripe, then he got out coached. Otherwise it was just a bad shooting night and this team isn’t big enough or deep enough to overcome 25% from trey.
While Vick provided the bulk of the scoring he really should have had a lot more point. He was left wide open the entire 39 minutes he played and he could have driven to the basket every time and all the shots he missed were from well inside the paint.
@JayHawkFanToo exactly. This one is on Self for not making Wahington pay for their gamble. Yes, they gambled. Hopkins must think Self is stupid or he wouldn't have done that.
@jaybate-1.0 nope. Rethink this entire post.
Nope. You get on it. You will grow by doing so.
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Oklahoma getting ready to play USC at 9:30 on ESPN2 - -should be a pretty good game. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Damn, between Oklahoma making 9 three pointers in the 1st half - -11 USC turnovers and Trae Young scoring 20 in the 1st half - -don't think I'm going to like this kid very much. - Fortunely I think he is a OAD. - very legit. - -USC lucky they only down 12 at the half. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY