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Late night is Today!!! Our baseball teams have given us nothing to pay attention to. Football is just a diversion till the boys hit the courts again. The excitement is building.

The offseason PHOG is starting to lift.

The Hawks are working on their J's.

@wissox Well that's a good place to start. - - We better be working on the J's - -be able to knock down some with consistency this year.- - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@wissox I thought Bragg transferred?

Cal is squirming about our forthcoming meeting.

Huggins is scheming how not to blow 10-15 point leads.

Liberace is warming up his crying voice.

K is stewing that the refs didn't deliver him a victory like they were supposed to.

Bill knows he has to beat Nova sometime this season.

Izzo squirming and scheming.

We might face Louisville and new coach Chris Mack. If he was coaching in our league he'd immediately be at the top of our most hated list.

@dylans I see what you did there...not bad.

@wissox Kruger is scheming for 40 minutes of Poke-a-Doke.
Smart is still clueless on how to coach elite athletes.
Prohm is still trying find the Magic.

30 days ...

@Barney Kruger is still saying "shoot it Trae"

Anybody going to late pm?

@Crimsonorblue22 only in spirit. I hope to be able to watch it on ESPN+.

I can't believe I'm saying this after ten years, but our toughest game will probably be at Bramlege. They will be returning everyone from the team that beat Kentucky in the Tournament last year.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Anybody going to late pm?

Seriously thinking about it

I'm too old for Late Night.

Thought about taking a kid whose family I am friends with. You guys think 6 is old enough?

@BShark yes! Does he love ku? Long standing and sitting

Crimsonorblue22 said:

@BShark yes! Does he love ku? Long standing and sitting

She. Adorable little girl! And yes, Jayhawk family. I don't associate with riff raff. :thinking: lol

I actually hurt myself giving her a piggy back ride Sunday. My knees ain't what they used to be.

@BShark I don't think he's old enough but you could take me instead!

BShark said:

Thought about taking a kid whose family I am friends with. You guys think 6 is old enough?

Unequivocally yes! I took my then 5-year-old daughter to her first game two years ago. She absolutely loved it!

To pass on the sage advice fellow posters gave me: Please take earplugs for the little one.

Sometimes you have to stand 4 hrs in the heat to get in, and it's much longer than a game.

@Crimsonorblue22 Don’t they sell tickets s now? Or assign seats? I seem to remember some policy change after the Wiggins-mania, but I haven’t been in a couple decades.

Hey, what happened to my 31 days thing? Moderators must be starting the countdown! Fine with me!

@Crimsonorblue22 No thanks. 4 hours waiting is insane.

27 days!!! Wash the taste of football away!!!

Can’t come soon enough after the debacle today.....

BShark said:

27 days!!! Wash the taste of football away!!!

TWENTY SIX - - -TWENTY SIX - - TWENTY SIX don't make us suffer anymore then we have too lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

I posted over on the football board about Sosinski and got to thinking.... Maybe Self is saving that spot for him? 🤣

Is it 25 or 24 now?

Down to 23 now @KUSTEVE, but who's counting?

Bucketeers brushing up on their PPG predictions.

Bucketeers making sure their KU garments are cleaned, pressed, folded.

Bucketeers checking their bank accounts hoping for a little extra to get out to a game this year in the PhogHouse.

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@BShark Look how taller Marcus is than Vick, and they're both listed as 6'5".

I just can't get over how good our Walk-on players are. You forget that Self basically got a steal in Teahan and Elliot. Luinstra is like the model player as far as walk-ons go.

I wish I could buy a season pass to watch practices this year lol.

@KUSTEVE you are going to give Kansas players a phobia of chopping off their hair

Kcmatt7 said:

I just can't get over how good our Walk-on players are. You forget that Self basically got a steal in Teahan and Elliot. Luinstra is like the model player as far as walk-ons go.

I wish I could buy a season pass to watch practices this year lol.

Yeah this is a very solid walk-on group. Teahan is a legit D2 player, not sure about Luinstra as I never saw him play but he seems to be a good kid and Elliott is a walk-on that visited the likes of UK/AZ for a rea$on.

@BShark I mean Luinstra is like what you expect to get as far as Walk-ons go. Good player from local high school, but not D1 good. Probably D2 though. Especially considering he played 6A ball.

Kcmatt7 said:

@BShark I mean Luinstra is like what you expect to get as far as Walk-ons go. Good player from local high school, but not D1 good. Probably D2 though. Especially considering he played 6A ball.

So like Bechard, Juenemann, Kleinmann, Morningstar* etc...

*OMEGALUL

Charlie Moore looking like a 7th grader still

@approxinfinity He's still a good 2 to 3 inches shorter than Marcus. And Dotson is absolutely not 6'2.

I don't think Vick's standing straight up. Leeeaaaning

Mitch is rockin’ with bow tie, sunglasses and dress shoes without socks!

@Gorilla72

Mitch looks a lot bigger than last season.

@wissox Bucketeer updating their outlook calendars with every KU game, including exhibitions. Sacred time blocked off in the calendar.

@Fightsongwriter Bucketeers telling friends they can't attend the wedding, the cookout, cancelling vacations, preparing sick days, rescheduling surgeries, dr. appointments so that the viewing/attending of games goes unimpeded!

Dotson’s the teams best dresser!

@wissox funerals too

@Crimsonorblue22 Funerals is a tough one. Maybe if there's a TV showing the game off to the side!

OK , so I just got a question/comment. kinda of KU related but also just trying to bring out a point and didn't know where else to put/ask this.

So as I'm sure most anybody/everybody knows how the Kentucky People like to bragg on Coach C - almost a GOD gets all this talent right?
We also know or at least most do about how they bag on Coach Self talking about all our early exits from the tourney talking about as they say quote " Old Rug head as they like to call him - how he caves and we pretend to be blue bloods.

So here is my question/statement . - Read this from ESPN today question is: - -How many NCAA Titles has Calipari won since he has been at Kentucky? According to ESPN - -ONE as they talk about best case worst case scenario's for this year for each top 25 team - So at the present he has ONE since being at Kentucky. - - -HMMMMM.

Question how many has Coach Self have since being at KU ? - -Answer as we know - - - ONE. - -HMMMM

Question - how many SEC conference Championships ha Coach Cal won since being at Kentucky? - -will be going for his 5th this season.
How many BIG 12 championships has Coach Self won since he has been at KU ? - will be going for his 15th straight - NCAA record - - -HMMMM

So now someone please explain to me How Coach Cal is suppose to be so much more superior of a Coach again over Coach Self. - How many years have we beat Kentucky in a row? - - Answer 3 - All with Coach Self. - -HMMMMM If Cal is that much of a superior Coach then someone tell me Why Cal with all the 5 star talent - -pretty much the pick of the litter - pretty much the # 1 recruiting class year after year - -after year 5 star players - -WHY is it Cal only has ONE National title same as Coach Self at KU - -please explain to me how he is a Superior Coach? - They brag about he gets his kids to the NBA. Really? - -Is that because of his coaching ability ? - -OR is it just a matter of the player being that talented all those 5 star players already coming how much does Calipari - REALLY develop these players? - -Don't you think if we had those SAME 5 star players that Coach Self would be having the same kind of numbers getting these guys to the NBA ? - Just Curious - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@wrwlumpy What do we have to do to get you banned from this site?

@nuleafjhawk I swear, I never thought those words would ever be typed. They also played in the tournament without Dean Wade.

@wrwlumpy

FWIW, I also think KSU will have a very good, battle tested team that will KU a tough game but KU will win.

nuleafjhawk said:

@wrwlumpy What do we have to do to get you banned from this site?

What is this about?

@BShark you know that @wrwlumpy is always causing trouble!🤣❤️💙

@Crimsonorblue22 Um...what? lol

@BShark hint KSU

Gorilla72 said:

Mitch is rockin’ with bow tie, sunglasses and dress shoes without socks!

He’s a dapper nerd.

@BShark

wrwlumpy

"I can’t believe I’m saying this after ten years, but our toughest game will probably be at Bramlege. They will be returning everyone from the team that beat Kentucky in the Tournament last year."

@nuleafjhawk I've got some other suggestions of whom to ban but I know there's many who'd rather see me banned!

@nuleafjhawk Can we honestly blame Tucky for not taking Silo Tech seriously? They probably looked over at the other bench, saw Liberace, and were waiting for the baby grand piano to be brought out.

Mitch looking rather Gangnam Style in that pic.

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Missouri still wondering why they left the league and their hated rival.

Hilton wondering what happened to their magic.

Texans pondering how they became bad in both major college sports.

West Virginia gassing up the DC 3 for some long conference road trip games.

Refs checking their rulebooks and deciding which rules to ignore this year.

@tis4tim
Maybe this one?

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@tis4tim I was thinking more....

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@JayHawkFanToo @approxinfinity

Hilarious!

Also - sorry Approx for the size of the file I posted! I didn't have time to photoshop it and make it smaller. Feel free to delete if necessary to keep the thread readable.

@tis4tim no worries man.

I think Mitch suffers from short shirt syndrome. He might have caught it from Perry Ellis, though my recollection is hazy. Have no fear, most young men outgrow short shirt syndrome when they go pro, and it's a healthy sign that they are not circumventing NCAA rules to get paid collegiately.

The band is polishing their brass.

The cheerleaders are coordinating their eye shadows, well not the male ones, but you understand.

The keepers of the most sacred 4700 square feet in America are shining, waxing, polishing, caressing the hardwoods

Editors are putting the finishing touches on whatever video plays during warmups. Wouldn't mind seeing one of those in person some day.

Recruits coming Friday are daydreaming in Miss Swansons 12th grade sociology class about shafts of sunlight streaming through the best placed windows in any arena ever built or even imagined by mankind.

@wissox :)

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@approxinfinity Super cool pic!

I need some freaking KU basketball. 8 long days to go.

KUSTEVE said:

I need some freaking KU basketball. 8 long days to go.

right there with you buddy. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Anybody else see this?
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@Gorilla72 really cool! Love the respect.

@Gorilla72 Moppers mopping up sweat, sweet!

Ollie took one for the team! Although, at the end, it didn’t appear everyone thanked/congratulated Ollie. But he’s a lot more famous than me... 🤣

Excitement builds as I buy my Street & Smith's Basketball annual and see KU inserted in the #1 slot ahead of Virginia and Duke.

@wissox They still publish those?

@KUSTEVE They do! I've bought one for every season back to the mid 80's. Somehow I lost my mid 80's to late 80's, but have every issue going back to since then. I pull them out every once in a while and like looking at the names of the HS stars. They name 20 top players and then long lists of honorable mention types. The number of top 20 types who even make themselves into a decent college player is pretty slim. Fascinating stuff.

By the way I have the same number of S & S's baseball magazines as well. They're still the best, although I don't like the regional covers which means I don't have any with KU on the cover except in the early days.

@wissox Street and Smith was one of the very 1st one's I bought growing up - still think they are the best as far as I'm concerned. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@wissox I was being facetious. I used to buy it too before the internet.

KUSTEVE said:

@wissox I was being facetious. I used to buy it too before the internet.

Is that there some new kind of fangled curse word? lol - - is that a word Granny said? - -( facetious ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@KUSTEVE You forgot your facetious font.

It is actually somewhat genuinely surprising that there are still a few of these being put out given all the info in them is online. It is neatly compiled though, of course. I'll buy one here and there sometimes.

@wissox Right next to the old sarcasm font.

THREE DAYS - - - -THREE DAYS - - -THREE DAYS - - THREE DAYS -- THREE DAYS - - YIPPEE - JUMPIN GEE HOSSA FATS -- THREE DAYS - - I''M ALIVE - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@wissox I used to read Reader's Digest, and look at pictures in Life magazine as well...snark snark...

@KUSTEVE

Loved Reader's Digest, I would read it cover to cover when growing up.

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There is the video of Self announcing 2 Chainz, if you wanted to see how it was going to originally be announced lol.

Bill looks so skinny in that video I really thought it was the young him for a quick second at the beginning. He looks like he lost a ton of weight

Welp think tomorrow I'll sign up for my 7 day free trial of ESPN plus so I can watch late night. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer73 - you’re having waaaaay too much fun!

seems to be some confusion. Hearing Hampton not coming for late night- -then off LJW talk about the Coach's visiting with him before he came to late night - Read off the Phog also about the Coach's talking with him before he heads here so hmmm don't know - -we shall see - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Gorilla72 said:

@jayballer73 - you’re having waaaaay too much fun!

Hey what can I say lmao. - -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Has anyone else checked the espn+ to see if it's on there?

I typed in late night in the phog and found it that way. Duh!

I hope to watch it on the ESPN + app. I don’t know if it’s just me but I don’t get that excited for Late night because we still have a month before the exhibition games and longer it the season starts with Michigan State on Nov. 6.

Yeah, I’m gonna wait for the season. I should find some highlights out there.

I am very excited for late pm! I don't really like watching the gals play- shame on me! I really like to see their personalities, the skits, dancing, who shows leadership qualities and of course the scrimmage. I like the intro's and I love the coaches, they are extremely funny. I'm still on the fence about going. Today I found out I could leave earlier, I think it's a sign.🤔👀🏀🏀🏀🏀💙❤️

No offense to women, but watching them play basketball on a 10 foot goal is not entertaining. They need to lower it do 9, or maybe even 8.5 feet. At that point, I actually think the game could be a lot more fun.

@Kcmatt7 They should make the women's court smaller, too. 8 foot baskets at 60 feet would make the game far more interesting, imo.

@Kcmatt7

They already use a smaller ball than the men which makes it easier to score.

@JayHawkFanToo Right. So we might as well change a few more rules to make it more fun.

@JayHawkFanToo because they have smaller hands

I don't know anything about 2 Chainz, but I still play the rap song from Late Night a couple of years ago on basketball game days. Everyone at my office knows it's KU basketball game day because I play over and over the Game On song by Tech Nine and Krizz Kaliko. I use it as my haka before big games. Game On Jayhawks.

Tech N9ne is personally my favorite of the last 3 to perform. But he is definitely the least famous of the 3. His "Chopper" series is crazy cool, imo.

Kcmatt7 said:

Tech N9ne is personally my favorite of the last 3 to perform. But he is definitely the least famous of the 3. His "Chopper" series is crazy cool, imo.

Ha. I'm in the exact same boat. Love Tech but 2Chainz is easily the biggest name here.

BShark said:

Kcmatt7 said:

Tech N9ne is personally my favorite of the last 3 to perform. But he is definitely the least famous of the 3. His "Chopper" series is crazy cool, imo.

Ha. I'm in the exact same boat. Love Tech but 2Chainz is easily the biggest name here.

Getting 2 Chainz is comparable to Kentucky getting Drake all them years. It can't hurt, I'm glad Self sees the benefit of "putting on a show" especially with a big name

Crimsonorblue22 said:

@JayHawkFanToo because they have smaller hands

...but the hoop itself is the same size as the men’s hoop; big advantage.

loved the short little video that self did , about 2 chainz being at late night. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@KUSTEVE How do ANY magazines or newspapers stay in business? Have people not heard of these computer/phone things?

Skits being practiced.

Scrimmage crazy plays being rehearsed

Students totally checked out mentally from anything academic.

Musicians practicing

Future opponents dreaming of the big upset to ruin our perfect season.

wissox said:

Students totally checked out mentally from anything academic.

I believe fans have also checked out from so called life.

@BeddieKU23 Interestingly I really don't care too much about late night! It was a cool event in 1986 when I attended my first, but it doesn't mean that much now. I guess a month ago when I first posted this it seemed like a target to look forward to but now I'm really counting days til there's real action!

I just can't get enough KU Bball. Even when the Chiefs are doing what they're doing, KU Bball is the top thing on my mind. AND WE AREN'T EVEN STARTED YET!!

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Kansas hosts long list of high-level recruits

The biggest weekend across the country takes place in Lawrence. Late Night at the Phog is generally the focal point of Kansas' recruiting calendar in the fall, and this year is no exception. Bill Self is welcoming a slew of top targets, starting with No. 1 senior James Wiseman.

Wiseman's recruitment is viewed as a Memphis vs. Kentucky battle, but he and his family have insisted all along it's not a two-team race and other schools are in the mix. Kansas is one of them, and Self will get his shot this weekend. Five-star guard Cassius Stanley (No. 25) cut his list to three schools last week, leaving UCLA, Kansas and Oregon vying for his services. USC was left off the list, to the surprise of some. There's no clear leader of the three remaining schools, but UCLA quietly has some momentum.

Another key visitor and longtime target is in-state center Jeremiah Robinson-Earl (No. 38). Robinson-Earl grew up less than an hour from campus and his father played at Kansas for Roy Williams. He is now at IMG Academy (Florida) for his senior season, but Kansas is still in solid position. His recruitment is shaping up as a Kansas-North Carolina battle, and he visited Chapel Hill last weekend.

While those three are the ones to watch in Lawrence this weekend, there's much more. Elite junior R.J. Hampton (No. 7 in 2020) will take his official visit after going to Memphis two weeks ago, and recent commit Christian Braun is also expected on campus. ESPN 100 forward Chandler Lawson (No. 58) and his younger brother, five-star sophomore Johnathan Lawson (No. 21 in 2021), will be at Late Night (their older brothers, Dedric and K.J. will suit up for the Jayhawks this season), and 2019 forward Anthony Walker and five-star junior N'Faly Dante (No. 13) are also taking visits. Kansas football coach David Beaty said earlier this week that rapper 2 Chainz is set to perform.

James Wiseman prediction: Memphis
Confidence level: 55 percent
Others in the mix: Kentucky, Kansas, Vanderbilt, Florida State

Cassius Stanley prediction: UCLA
Confidence level: 40 percent
Others in the mix: Kansas, Oregon

Jeremiah Robinson-Earl prediction: Kansas
Confidence level: 60 percent
Others in the mix: North Carolina, Arizona, Notre Dame, Villanova

@wissox I'll care for you. And you can read the Street and Smith for me...lol.

@dylans from their confidence level they put out , looks like Cassius is still pretty wide open. Think we have a very legit shot if you believe in what they are putting out. Getting hyped up - - - -just got my ESPN plus ordered so I can watch it - - - -kick back eat my Lasagne drink my tea and sit here at my computer and take it in lol. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Lots of yakking...let's see the guys play....

Wait for it

@Crimsonorblue22 i don't have much choice.

@KUSTEVE Same crap every year lol

@BShark We're going to have to time this out better. Next year...tune in an hour and a half after it starts...

Ok..make it two hours after it starts...

Nope...3 hours...

I think it's fun

Are you guys 90?

If the students and recruits like it, I'm good with the format!

I'm happy Cox didn't stop at 9. I loved Selfs skit, alright,alright alright. I'm a fan😍

Bill has slimmed down a lot. I figured that was the inspiration for the Matthew McConaughey Lincoln spoof bit.

Good one!

Unfortunately, I'm going to have to lose a few pounds if I expect people to keep mistaking me for Self. (happens about twice a year)

@Crimsonorblue22 After watching it, I feel about 100...

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Are you guys 90?

Heard 2Chainz killed it, but we didn't get to see that, we got filler content.

@BShark If it keeps going this long, they'll have to stop Late Night, so they can catch a flight to play Sparty...

I see 2Chainz going that long as a positive. People were really into it.

He was a bb player, might see some minutes

@Crimsonorblue22 Scrubbed out at Alabama State. All rappers think they can ball and all ballers think they can rap. :joy:

Mad I missed Dotson and grimes intros

@Crimsonorblue22 Grimes, Doke and Vick got the loudest ovations.

Saw Vick and doke

thoughts: - seeing 1st look really at McCormack - just casual when he was playing the drums- - - -Mercy he is a big boy. Mitch? - - they said and I had no idea, Mitch had 54 blocks last season ? - I knew he block quite a few but didn't realize he had 54. - -Also he took 16 charges - --doing the dirty work.. had to laugh at Coach - -making that comment saying that's exactly what were looking to see KJ getting a rebound - - -dribbling out and shooting a three. -- let the Season Begin. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Self was great doing commentary. Very funny, sees the game well.

I thought ochi(sp) looked good

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Crimsonorblue22 said:

I thought ochi(sp) looked good

Ochai Agbaji.

Yeah he's good. Team is too deep this year for him to get many minutes but he should be a real factor as early as next season.

I’m ticked my ESPN app quit during the intros, I was able to watch the rest. Man I hate the scrimmage, lol it’s the same as most years guys just running around like chickens with their heads cut off. I’m like Self sitting here critic it. Now we have to wait 27 days to play 😒

Be hard to keep everybody happy. That's what worries me.

We made it out healthy. Great event all around.

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There's not alot to be gleaned from the short scrimmage. I thought Vick, KJ, and Silvio looked the best. I thought Devon looked very impressive. No way do I see Charlie being a roadblock for him, as I have speculated before. I think Mitch got his 3 ball card pulled last night. Dedric forced several shots, but he put together a real nice shot near the end that hints how good he can be. Quentin had some nice moments, although he missed a bunny. I noticed he races to the basket on every missed shot, so he could be a real nice secondary rebounder. Talented team...sloppy, sloppy team. It's early...they'll get better.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Be hard to keep everybody happy. That's what worries me.

Yep. Can't play 12 guys. And unlike a lot of schools the 11th and 12th guys are 4* recruits.

The scrimmage is always rough. Self never has his system installed because they never have practice ahead of time, until the last couple of years. It's also an event where you don't want any injuries to occur so even if Self had his system in place, I doubt there would be any defense played on this. It's just a chance for the players to show off different facets of their game for the crowd.

Even the walk ons can shoot

@Crimsonorblue22 I liked the fact that Vick calmly sank the first shot of the game...a 3 ball. Leadership...

@Texas-Hawk-10 You’d think the returning players wouldn’t forget every set over the summer though. You are right it’s the same every year. Exception being that time JoJo messed around too much and actually got chewed out by Self for his Late Night performance. Gotta be a first.

If Bill wanted them running sets that's what they'd be doing. It's just a show.

@BShark It would be silly to try and run sets, I just don't like it because its bad basketball lol. I was surprised last night, usually there are more highlight reel lobs and dunks.

@kjayhawks yes. I always figure the guys would build chemistry over the summer. Doesn’t always show in the late night setting though. I wouldn’t look for a high low, just some good two man action.

@kjayhawks yeah, it's hard to watch, looking forward to the exhibition on Oct 25th.

@dylans there was a nice two man sequence with Grimes and Dedric passing back and forth that ended in a lay-up.

The two teams shot a combined 12/29 (about 41.4%) from 3.

KJ shot 3/4 from 3.

I underestimated Dedric's ability to rebound. He may be the best rebounder on the team actually.

Grimes and Dedric both had 3 assists. Dedric put the ball on the floor and had a really nice fadeaway jumpshot off of one foot. He's really good.

Grimes had a really nice bounce pass to Dedric on the baseline.

Mitch led the game with 19 minutes played. McCormack only played 9 minutes and didn't do much.

Agbaji and Elliot both looked decent.

And I'm not surprised that the red team won.

@KirkIsMyHinrich Hard to take too much from this tbh. Both Lawsons are very good though. Lots of people sleeping on KJ.

Best case scenario is KJ is the real deal and starts over Vick. Vick coming off the bench would really let you know just how deep we are.

KJ led either team in points and only played 9 minutes!

But ya, this game didn't mean anything.

Kcmatt7 said:

Best case scenario is KJ is the real deal and starts over Vick. Vick coming off the bench would really let you know just how deep we are.

Yeah I think super 6th man is more likely, where he gets just about starter type minutes. When it looked like Doke could leave I thought a starting line-up with the Lawsons at the 4-5 sounded very appealing.

Passive/Inconsistent Vick = KJ in starting lineup

Good Vick = Vick in starting lineup

I think Vick will start to begin the season. But if he has a season like his junior year, then he'll lose his starting spot to KJ probably. It's nice to have depth this season.

@Kcmatt7 Tait thinks Marcus will start over KJ and Vick. I don't see that. I think Vick has to get heavy minutes for his shooting, but I can't help but be impressed with the way KJ plays. Nice stroke, hits the boards, plays very smart.

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Went back and watched, and Agbaji looks really good. And the more I see KJ, the more I'm thinking we have to get this guy as many minutes as possible. That steal where he jumped the passing lane, and took it home was spectacular. He has a really nice jump shot, and he shoots it quick, but with real good form. 9 minutes....11 points... 3 threes...4 rebounds, an assist, and a steal. Put him on the floor with Dedric, Grimes, and Dotson, and you've got 4 semi- point guards on the floor ( check out the Dedric to Grimes to Dedric sequence at 2:26. OMG. GREAT TEAMWORK.) Great passers ....great drivers ...unselfish players looking for their teammates all the time. Teams are simply not going to be able to guard us man to man.

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