I had some clever names for this one, but didn't want to ruffle any feathers.

boom...

Let’s go Hawks! Another year is here.

finally...

Someone tell the team Greenberg picked MSU. Hes only picked against KU 50 games straight

MSU starting Tillman or Goins?

Did he really pick Kstate to go to the Final Four this season?

Eric-san said:

Did he really pick Kstate to go to the Final Four this season?

Yes he drinks

Uncle Fester picked KU to lose and KSU to go to the Final Four.

There is a reason he isn't coaching anymore.

It's like we have two frans

UNC/Wofford as a commericial break is not too bad.

Vitale = instant mute

BShark said:

Vitale = instant mute

Under 1 minute before he talks about duke during ku game lol

ESPN has to say KU is ranked #1 with a tone of surprise because they faun over Duke constantly.

QQQQ

whosaysbilldontplaythefreshman

Langford looks like he has 3 kids and a full time job

And a mortgage.

@BeddieKU23 Dedric plays like that

Self could really use a win here. KU is still winless against MSU in this event and has a poor record overall.

We gave the wrong guy the ball

BeddieKU23 said:

We gave the wrong guy the ball

Old Bill Self habits die hard.

Grimes

Finally. the season starts and the noise can subside.

I think I need a bigger TV

Lawson is a rebounding magnet

Worst player on team

Grimes looks pretty good early on.

BeddieKU23 said:

Worst player on team

Who what?

I like this Grimes guy

nice flat footed tip, dedric!

Hell ya Doke

that was a move!

3 3's already

Dotson really struggling

DId not expect that move from Udoka lol

no need to stare down the bench, Grimes

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

Worst player on team

Who what?

Goins

Bad play by Dotson led to a wide-open 3.

Grimes is legit

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Bad play by Dotson led to a wide-open 3.

He will learn. Lots of jitters

That ball was off of MSU I thought.

So dedric has 5 boards already

Ball looked out on MSU

Eric-san said:

Ball looked out on MSU

It was

Woodrow said:

Dotson really struggling

I think his jump shot is the biggest factor in him staying multiple years. I expect it to improve working with these coaches.

@BeddieKU23 No lift, but nose for the ball - moves to rebounds - in stark contrast to Doke...

BeddieKU23 said:

Eric-san said:

Ball looked out on MSU

It was

Is this reviewable? If not WHY.

DCHawker said:

@BeddieKU23 No lift, but nose for the ball - moves to rebounds - in stark contrast to Doke...

Instinct as well, its elite

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

That ball was off of MSU I thought.

Not sure how they missed that. Clearly was.

BeddieKU23 said:

DCHawker said:

@BeddieKU23 No lift, but nose for the ball - moves to rebounds - in stark contrast to Doke...

Instinct as well, its elite

Lifetime hooper whereas Doke first played when he was what, 16 maybe?

Wow that looked obvious off of MSU lol. Ball movement isn’t great

Poor silvio

Room and board is free at least

could vitale just stfu?

flop

Garrett much more confident

Moore can't do that to anyone.

DanR said:

could vitale just stfu?

LOL

Lightfoot is just lost defensively

BeddieKU23 said:

Garrett much more confident

That's his game, driving it.

Mitch should sit for a bit

@DanR Even with his added bulk, he seems to take up zero space in the paint...

Mitch being the first big off the bench is...interesting...

Dedric's taken good shots. Just missed them. Not worried.

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Dedric's taken good shots. Just missed them. Not worried.

Thought that last one was going in.

My gosh refs

MSU refs tonight so far.

Sparty still doesn’t have a foul

LOL

I'm sure he touched wind

MSU refs is right

we have a deep bench, so who cares?

DanR said:

we have a deep bench, so who cares?

I'm not sad Mitch is out.

This is some shit though.

So the guy trips Grimes and they just say play on

Michigan St. is pushing on defense too. KU's not flailing and flopping.

BeddieKU23 said:

So the guy trips Grimes and they just say play on

Might be like this all year unfortunately.

I could do without these refs...and Vitale...

BeddieKU23 said:

So the guy trips Grimes and they just say play on

Looked like that to me too

Good thing we are deep, I hate this touch fouls underneath on their end yet Doke has 2 guys all over him with no call.

Liked that baseline jumphook by Mitch.

All the tricky tac calls going agains KU so far...

Let's never do Doke + McCormack again please Billy.

Wow, finally.

The Spanish broadcast was working at first when this one wasn't... Was a hard toss up. Wish I could have Spanish just for Vitale.

I like this lineup

DOKE!!!

Doke.

What a weak-ass foul call. Give me a break.

Grimes 3/4 from three so far?

Ball don’t lie!

Dokes conditioning doesn't seem to be a problem

Didn't see a big to big oop last year that I remember

Q BIG GAME GRIMES

Dedric forced that 3. DIdn't have time to say that.

7-1 fouls

We need to have Dedric in the game for 36+ minutes every game!!!

approxinfinity said:

Dokes conditioning doesn't seem to be a problem

He has been absolutely tremendous so far. Very active.

8-1

Well, we shall see if this team can play with a lead.

That overhead camera angle looks like crap

So far, so good...

Nice catch, Dave.

Imagine if the refs were calling this game fairly...

Ridiculous

Like, how was that a foul on KU on that MSU screen? TF

But up 10. Like that

EMBIID!!!!!!!!!!!

McCormick still a bit amped up!

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

EMBIID!!!!!!!!!!!

Wut?

They typically will come around and even it up.. But right now, we're flourishing despite the calls.

FBI in collusion with NCAA?

@BShark Is present...

Imagine thinking this team was bad because of the exhibitions. I SURE DIDNT.

Frank Mason IV

we are getting beat in transition.

Not a foul

at least 6 points

If KU could stop the dunks and transition buckets this would be a route

that's about 30% of their points.

that's about 30% of their points.

Woodrow said:

If KU could stop the dunks and transition buckets this would be a route

This team can be elite in terms of half court D.

Only reason this ain’t a massacre is the friendly whistles for MSU

Dedric is ice-cold offensively too. Wow

Charlie got bailed out on that one...

We're very quick in the half-court.. And our rebounding is much better than last year.

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Dedric is ice-cold offensively too. Wow

Last shot seemed like a force. Just needs to let the game come to him.

kjayhawks said:

Only reason this ain’t a massacre is the friendly whistles for MSU

YUP

Just realized Grimes has two fouls. That sucks. He was balling

That was a foul. And a dumb foul. Let's go Dotson.

bskeet said:

We're very quick in the half-court.. And our rebounding is much better than last year.

Elite rebounding team.

wish they'd look for vick a bit more.

Woodrow said:

Just realized Grimes has two fouls. That sucks. He was balling

Self is usually good about letting guys play with two fouls, but lots of depth this year.

Acting

Keep going at Ward.

our size alone will beat a ton of teams.

The foul calling is an effin’ joke...

How deep is MSU?

Offensive.

Winston flops too. I don't like him at all.

McCormick playing good D too

first time watching the our guys (and commenting here) this season. dang we look good. moore looks confident and cool, doke looks much improved, and we could ride lawson a long ways

Grimes is legit.

Dave and Dotson looking a lot better already tbh.

Dave needs to make his throws

@StLJhawk Yeah, I didn't know what to expect given the changes.. This is a pleasant surprise so far.

@StLJhawk D Lawson especially if he starts hitting those chippies

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Dave needs to make his throws

He's definitely capable. Maybe too jacked right now still.

I think Izzo has seen that play a few too many times

Ward can be physical but Doke can't. Come on.

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Ward can be physical but Doke can't. Come on.

Yep. Vitale can fuck off

he just pushed ward a bit too obviously.

Doke is unstoppable, except for the zebras.

Small ball now?

Dotson be smart!

freshmen mistake.

Give and take with Dotson tonight...

Kevin Flaherty
‏ @KFlaherty247
42s42 seconds ago

If Kansas played better transition D, Michigan State might have single-digit points right now.

Kevin isn't wrong...

man, free throws are not pretty on either side. hard to believe we're winning that aspect.

On that breakaway, take em down hard cuz zebras are calling you regardless

Dick Vitality activated.

LOOK DUKE IS IN THE TUNNEL!!!!!

@DanR LOL

they look like we used to at the free throw line, brick city

I had the same thought.

When you have the horses to crush everyone

Pretty impressive we're scoring at this rate with only 4 pts from Dedric...

Grimes could pushed right in front of the official.

LOVE the REBOUNDING EFFORT

Vick's shot looks like total crap. what happened

Vick has been invisible...

@DanR Vitale wet his pants

DanR said:

Vick's shot looks like total crap. what happened

Got challenged

Meanwhile

!alt text ↗

@BeddieKU23 it's looked bad all year, like he's leaning to one side

This offense is not working vick in very well. They tried that one set play for a dunk out of the time out that was muffed. Otherwise he's nearly invisible

Iowa State will start Lindell Wigginton, Nick Weiler-Babb, Marial Shayok, Talen Horton-Tucker and Michael Jacobson in tonight's opener against Alabama State. Tipoff about 15 minutes away here at Hilton.

How many blocks already this half?

Vick needed that

DanR said:

@BeddieKU23 it's looked bad all year, like he's leaning to one side

Agree

Dotson is freshman and soph frank

I think it's like. Self just told Dotson to push hard. But he's taking it a little too far.

Were those not mirror plays at both ends with different results from the refs?

Grimes has taken some stupid shots

Wow

This is a confident team.

Finish the half strong.

Holly Rowe looks great!

Wow. Not what I expected.

DanR said:

Grimes has taken some stupid shots

Leaning wrong way on that last. Coach wants him to be aggressive

DanR said:

Grimes has taken some stupid shots

We need Grimes like this, this is what Self wants.

Bwag said:

Were those not mirror plays at both ends with different results from the refs?

Absolutely.

Is Washburn better than Michigan State? My column:

@BShark taking 11 foot shots 5 seconds into the possession?

BShark said:

Is Washburn better than Michigan State? My column:

You asking for a friend?

DanR said:

@BShark taking 11 foot shots 5 seconds into the possession?

Need him to be aggressive. The alternative is that he drifts like we saw at times in the exhibitions.

CJ Moore
‏Verified account @CJMooreHoops
43s44 seconds ago

The only good for Michigan State has come from Cassius Winston's vision. If he's not throwing a great pass or KU is bailing Sparty out with a foul, they cannot do anything.

@BShark quick read, that column

Dedric with 5 pts. but 10 rbs.

wow....

we're manhandling them...

I wish the commentary would focus more on the game and less on the Duke players who are standing.

Ward 0-5 from the field. Dedric 10 rebounds.

Oh the refs annual blow hard in game one forget the rules by game 15 crap

@KirkIsMyHinrich there's always the Spanish broadcast

I'm not convinced KJ has ever played basketball before

Sigh Vick

Loyer looks 10

Even with that TO, only 5 so far - a wee bit better than the exhibition games...

Good shot by Dedric again. His shots are just rolling off the rim tonight.

Have barely been able to watch this thing (baby). KJ seem more useful to you guys as well?

Foul on KS. Of course

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Good shot by Dedric again. His shots are just rolling off the rim tonight.

Agree

approxinfinity said:

Have barely been able to watch this thing (baby). KJ seem more useful to you guys as well?

No.made a 3 tho

DMac is settling down

Big Dave!

KJ had a good pass to Vick as well.

Oh god vick

Vick is completely discombobulated....

BeddieKU23 said:

Oh god vick

He's not good. Damn

Refs literally dont let them play

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

Oh god vick

He's not good. Damn

Game 1 jitters lol

Vitale has to change his pants.

High praise here...

Jerry Meyer
‏ @jerrymeyer247

Kansas post players develop the ability to score on post moves.
6:56 PM - 6 Nov 2018

@bskeet 2nd time. But probably Depends.

Wow

good job, dotson!

Our 48th foul of the game

And point

Thank God they are shooting less than 75% from FT

Imagine scoring almost 50 points in a half against Izzo after those exhibitions. Tells you all you need to know about exhibitions.

Dotson is showing a different gear again .

24 for FT's for Michigan St...

Dedric will still manage to score 20 I predict

bskeet said:

Thank God they are shooting less than 75% from FT

That just crossed my mind as well

25 Free Throws. Excuse me.

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

24 for FT's for Michigan St...

Ridiculous disparity

Refs are trying to keep MSU in the game. MSU is like, nah, no thanks dawg.

17 team fouls. Unbelievable

Half these fouls wont be called in regular season it's to keep Michigan st in it

Let’s hit 50 in a half against #10

What a crap shot

Dedric finally got one in

With normal officials and Dedric making shots he would normally make Kansas is up by 30...

17 fouls against us vs. 8 against State. Bullshit calls.

Is Dedric going to survive in the NBA? Seems with old man game you need to be huge too, a la Z-Bo

Dedric needs to slow down a bit, pressing too hard offensively 2 for 10 from the floor.

All 10 guys that have played have scored...

I guess it’s nice to be up 14 and I honestly don’t feel we played all that spectacular

Grimes is a star. Dotson is a star. i don't ever remember freshmen coming in and playing like that in their first game that weren't the number 1 recruit in the land.

CJ Moore
‏Verified account @CJMooreHoops
52s52 seconds ago

Halftime stats

Dedric Lawson: 7 and 11
Udoka Azubuike: 10 points
Quentin Grimes: 11 points and +18 when he's on the floor
KU fouls: Infinity

approxinfinity said:

Is Dedric going to survive in the NBA? Seems with old man game you need to be huge too, a la Z-Bo

He's not an NBA guy, if he was he wouldn't be in Lawrence this year imo.

Where's Joel's swimsuit model girlfriend?

kjayhawks said:

I guess it’s nice to be up 14 and I honestly don’t feel we played all that spectacular

This team might be a cheat code.

So, we look better vs MSU than Emp. St and Washburn. Works for me.

I think MSU didn't/couldn't prepare for this kind of KU team. We are so different from the type of team we were last year and really the past couple.

HighEliteMajor said:

So, we look better vs MSU than Emp. St and Washburn. Works for me.

Typical Bill Self. I shouldn't have doubted I guess.

@bskeet I was thinking the same thing. We're the same team, but we play completely differently than last year. Last year, it seemed like we had times where no lead was safe- this team defends a lot better, and all the worries about the offense seem to be unfounded.

Vick is off tonight. 1/4 But the passes to him have been off too.

Dedric is having tough luck with some of his shots. But he still has 11 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 block, and 1 steal.

KUSTEVE said:

and all the worries about the offense seem to be unfounded.

I wouldn't go this far yet. Let's see how the offense looks against some shitty team that slows the game way down and packs the paint.

Wow 17 fouls in the first half for KU, that’s insane.

UNC 46 Wofford 42 with 11:21 to play...

Just got home from work. 50 points at halftime against a Top 10 team? Nice.

kjayhawks said:

I guess it’s nice to be up 14 and I honestly don’t feel we played all that spectacular

And 50 in half against #10

Dotson is out of control. But if that was Michigan St in transition it would have been a foul against Kansas...

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Dedric is having tough luck with some of his shots. But he still has 11 rebounds, 3 assists, 1 block, and 1 steal.

Will this be his worst game of the season?

Not a great idea to run and gun

Jeesh that's not good

How many stupid transition plays for Kansas have resulted in wide-open shots for MSU at the other end. Way too many.

we force a lot of turnovers. and... as soon as i type that we turn it over, dang.

@KirkIsMyHinrich something to work on

KU with only 5 turnovers...this is progress...

So far keeping Ward in check with 4 pts, all at the line.

yea like the earlier comment, this team looks like they could protect a lead. liking embid's love for Ku too

Hey. We got a crap call in the post!

make up call maybe

good lord, get back on D

Effing transition defense....

Zion Williamson. Best value a $100k can buy.

grimes with 5 3s, nice

Now it’s real

Weren't we saying Q couldn't shoot last game?

Easy game over. Let's match this run

lol, i just mention we look like we can keep a lead, and it's down to 9

StLJhawk said:

lol, i just mention we look like we can keep a lead, and it's down to 9

Good opportunity for Self to coach

Michigan St. players complaining about fouls is pretty ridiculous.

Gotta hand it to Izzo to start the 2nd half totally opposite than the first by hacking and actually making some shots

Dok with only 2 rbs. 3 blocks though

got back on d that time

GRIMES IS FILTHY!

Flop.

that'd be a flop, sir

@DanR
yea and by the end of the season, izzo's boys will likely be way better as usual for him

stoptheflop said:

Dok with only 2 rbs. 3 blocks though

Doesn’t rebound well out of his area

What a joke.

Flop! Dick

Flop

I like the foul, Dotson. Get in his head

"There was contact!"

Guy gets paid to call games. Wow.

Hollywood

Whiner

Gotta guard the 3 ball - only way they can come back against us...

Hey Izzy, you Hollywood acting Coach now?

missed shot on the travel of the century luckily

Lil walking in there

🏆

boom, like the 3s

Bitch...I am Mitch...

Let's get a few stops...

Good D gets rewarded

Mitch with the effective hedge too!

AND 1! Come the hell on!

What a response

@JayHawkFanToo you are to quick w/that

as does ballhandling

Grimes is like Selden only making shots

Up 15

Good hedge by Mitch

And we worried Grimes couldn't hit the 3.

@DanR
nice!

Refs gotta keep it under 15

BS ref call

Bwag said:

BS ref call

Ditto

22-11 fouls.

Dotson

So they gonna talk ku during next game?

Mitch playing Center...

@Crimsonorblue22 hell no.

@Crimsonorblue22 I turned the TV down and listened to my wife talk to my mother in law on the phone. Much better.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

So they gonna talk ku during next game?

Dickie V will have a constant stream running down his leg.

Listening to Halsey instead of the announcers

If Dotson gets consistent from 3 look the heck out. He has been awesome after settling down. Very impressed thus far.

Grimes and Dotson combined 9-12 from 3...I like it...

What’s up with this old man talking the entire game? Doesn’t he know KU is playing?!?

I hate how the officials try to keep the game close, every time KU gets up 12+, it’s tick tack time folks. Seems like that’s been the norm the past 5 years

@DanR lol, I think u have a nice mom in law! I'm on heavy duty meds from arthroscopic knee surgery fri. My help left sun pm. Still hurts!

New guys Dotson Grimes big Dave and Dedric all get thumbs up in my book

@DanR big Dave just need mins

that's a not much of a foul

All they are doing is shooting 3s - just stay on the friggin' line and deny those - make them drive and make 2s...

DanR said:

that's a not much of a foul

All Night Long song comes to mind

Amazing that's only the 3rd on Ward...

Yep, we don't need to act!

DCHawker said:

Amazing that's only the 3rd on Ward...

I’m behind

Michigan St. is getting really lucky that Dedric is missing tonight.

Bad shot by Cick

@Bwag let's slow errrrr down.

will dickie ever retire, sheesh

StLJhawk said:

will dickie ever retire, sheesh

His eyes did a couple seasons ago

So many transition opportunities wasted. ugh.

Shut up!

Refs trying to even it out now?

Doke likes fouling

Let's see it again.

Not much of a blow for Dedric...

funny to see all the auto corrections for Dedric on here

Nice bro pass, KJ

The star of the game — crappy refs. What’s new? Phantom calls against both teams.

And the announcers

78 with just under 9 left...

Several sloppy TOs the past several minutes...

True

3rd flop of the game by State.

TOs but trying alley oops and hard passes

Plus we didn't see that one from the skinny kid

Sloppy on both ends. To be expected in the opener, I guess.

KJ want PT he needs to take the charge there.

Izzy coaches Hollywood.

Sad

I think half of Dedrics rebounds are ones that were rejected right back to him, shot fake man.

Langford, their top scorer with 4 fouls. It would be nice to foul him out.

MSU is 11-20 from 3. So that's helping them stay in.

A few baskets here would end this

All starters in double figures, but Vick. We need to get Vick going.

Yikes.

Wow

Shots not dropping for DLaw, but he is contributing big time on the boards, FTs and assists. Most guys have played okay with exception of Vick - awful game from him...

good job with the throws, KJ

Vick with a dumb foul

Ouch kJ

I don't like Charlie at point one bit

Get Vick out of there...

That lob into the post just isn't working.

Ouch

Just off 100 pace now

drained some clock anyways

Bwag said:

Just off 100 pace now

Now even more off

This lineup is not ideal

Boy the rims are really unkind to Dedric tonight.

not sorry to see some subs

10 points 6 min

“And a foul on Ks”. Surprise

Doke time

Back to 8

doke!

Self sat Doke WAY too long

Yeah Doke!

And 1?

and smooth FT for the big man too!

A little run and put this away....

doke again!

Boom. Let’s go

really going to try poke a doke?

Doke with the soft touch

Doke

Can doke shoot 100% this year from FT

completely different mechanics for doke's charity shots

MSU only gets whistled when they deliberately hack.

@StLJhawk plus confidence.

Imagine being a hall of fame coach, and your game plan is play Doke straight up, 1 on 1 in the post.

@approxinfinity I'm surprised that we're getting as many calls as we are away from the ball.

BeddieKU23 said:

A few baskets here would end this

Or FT’s. Made

Doty and Ballard knew better. :joy:

I really don't like Michigan St much. Flopping, players whining about calls, coach whining about calls, intentional fouling.

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

I really don't like Michigan St much. Flopping, players whining about calls, coach whining about calls, intentional fouling.

Izzo coaching now. Sad.

@KirkIsMyHinrich Seems like a characteristic of Big 10 Teams

oh, come on, ref

Wow.

REF SHOW BITCHES

nwhawkfan said:

@approxinfinity I'm surprised that we're getting as many calls as we are away from the ball.

Now that Refs realize they can’t steal the game, they work to even it up and hide their “invisible “ hand.

Late whistle?

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

I really don't like Michigan St much. Flopping, players whining about calls, coach whining about calls, intentional fouling.

Izzo has always been a whiner. Seriously. Every press conference after they lose, excuses and crying.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Late whistle?

BAD whistle

Refs are bound and determined to get MSU back in the game.

Winston carries the ball just about every time he drives.

Not coincidentally, bad call in front of MSU bench

Refs gifted MSU's last trip to the line for 2. KU should be up by 2 more.

probably ought to get the ball in Dedric's hands from here on out

2017 maybe the only year we have finished against MSU seems like we blow leads like crazy

Udoka shooting FT like Steve Nash

Get 2 more stops and we're done...

That's it, kill the clock.

Need to get Doke out now...

When a rebound seals the game

Take Doke out and guard the 3-point line.

leaving doke in. Good for his mojo

What’s fouls disparity now?

Doke has been okay from the line, but this pressure is different... I don't like this.

@Bwag both in the double bonus

Run that same play but with Dedric in the post, dammit...

Wow. Doke earned that play.

DCHawker said:

Run that same play but with Dedric in the post, dammit...

Can Dedric seal like that? I dunno

Don't really care - he will be fouled and I like him at the line a whole hell of a lot more...

Travel

What’s with our worst FT shooters handling ball at end of game?

So much for his mojo...

THAT WAS A GOD DAMN TRAVEL

Unreal

If this goes to OT MSU wins.

Why are we just now putting Dotson in?

Between the pre-game smearing, Bias and Uncle Fester picking Michigan St, and the in-game commentary I'm about done with ESPN.

Dedric fell asleep on D there.

Bad coaching - don't care how much better his stroke is, Doke has no business being in at the end of tight games where we have the lead...

But Selfs personnel and play calling to close this out...?

i talk about Doke nice FTs and he bricks both. I think I'll just stop making observations and jinxing them

@DCHawker I agree but this game means little in big picture, let’s see how he does is probably what Bill was thinking.

BShark said:

THAT WAS A GOD DAMN TRAVEL

Reffing has been bad

EXHALE

Good game.

what's point of one rebounder on a free throw and three guys not even back?

Whew.

Game

Okay Izzo.

good guys win again, i like it

Whiner not a winner

Better that we win this way instead of a blowout. Keeps 'em humble.

We need Silvio

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Okay Izzo.

Lil bitch like I said.

could easily have won by 30, but I'm happy with the education

Bwag said:

We need Silvio

Not happening. Would be multiple farms.

nwhawkfan said:

Better that we win this way instead of a blowout. Keeps 'em humble.

Coaching opportunity

Given that they made better than 50% from 3, we only made ~60% from the FT line, and Dedric couldn't find the bottom of the basket, it was a good win...

BShark said:

Bwag said:

We need Silvio

Not happening. Would be multiple farms.

But he could hit FT’s

anyone pick a score this high on the prediction thread?

Bwag said:

BShark said:

Bwag said:

We need Silvio

Not happening. Would be multiple farms.

But he could hit FT’s

Oh don't get me wrong, I'd love to have him.

Sooo, Vick no shows, Dedric 27% from the floor and coast to a win against the #10 team in the country? Dece.

Too many fouls called. That went 2:25.

@BShark meanwhile the refs were as bad as the announcers.

dylans said:

@BShark meanwhile the refs where as bad as the announcers.

AMEN

Where’s Grimes from?

Was that Zion Williamson bobbling the ball in Layup line?

Dick v needs to be taped in the locker room.

dylans said:

@BShark meanwhile the refs were as bad as the announcers.

Yep. Fouls kinda evened out but it was still absolutely horrible. Missed a lot of travels on MSU, felt like they got away with more. I'm biased, but still. Even whistle in the first half and who even knows what the score is. 2nd half KU wasn't as good on D I feel in part because guys were worried about how the game was being called.

Hey Dickie V, time to empty your drool bucket. You've still got another two hours to salivate over Zion.

(AKA the Second Coming of Wilt, Russell, Jordan, and Jesus Shuttlesworth...)

Bwag said:

Where’s Grimes from?

Bad-assia.

@Bwag Texas. Shades of Barkley though (Alabama I think)

Real nice win over a veteran team. We lost some of the momentum in the 2nd half, but quite an impressive performance by our freshmen guards.

They really looked as mature as any frosh we've had.

KUSTEVE said:

Real nice win over a veteran team. We lost some of the momentum in the 2nd half, but quite an impressive performance by our freshmen guards.

I really think all our guys having like a million fouls each at the half got in their head a bit defensively. This team can be LIGHTS OUT on D. MSU had ab-so-lute-ly nothin' in the first half when the refs weren't bailing them out.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Dick v needs to be taped in the locker room.

To the wall. Lol

@Crimsonorblue22 agree.

Kj struggled too. He's usually a junkyard dog.

Bwag said:

Where’s Grimes from?

Born in Houston, went to school in The Woodlands, Texas.

MSU shot 52% from three, took 35 fts, and lost. Jeeeez.

Second half... Eh.

We're really pretty good and we're not even very good yet. Ludicrously high ceiling.

Can Grimes repeat that performance or will he be streaky as some think.

Ommmmmmmg the MSU 247 board right now.

I'm in tears from laughter. 1,000 Dollar Bill comments and they think because Nick Ward can't stop Doke he's awful.

Yeah, the second half looked like the very first game of the year. MSU made sure to not let Dedric beat them and he still got something like 22 points and 17 rebounds. No one can stop our inside play. I thought Dotson and Grimes did a lot of good things. Dotson will learn how and when to attack in transition, but still a lot of good things. We have a long way to go and we are already really good. Gonna be a great year guys.

DLawson. His worst game at least offensively?

5-18    0-2 14  6   2   20pts

And the Nick Ward defenders think Doke is 7'2''.

@Crimsonorblue22 he looked better tonight than during the exhibition games. Once he gets into the flow, he will contribute a lot for us.

HawkChamp said:

Yeah, the second half looked like the very first game of the year. MSU made sure to not let Dedric beat them and he still got something like 22 points and 17 rebounds. No one can stop our inside play. I thought Dotson and Grimes did a lot of good things. Dotson will learn how and when to attack in transition, but still a lot of good things. We have a long way to go and we are already really good. Gonna be a great year guys.

20/14/6/2/2. Dude FILLS the stat sheet.

And yeah, super agree with this. The ceiling on this team is in the atmosphere.

@BShark I think it goes to show how good Dedric is when 20/14/6/2/2 is a "subpar game".

@HawkChamp Yep. If he shoots more like normal he has at least 3 more 2 pt makes in this game. A few of his misses were super close too, rolling out and stuff like that.

Dotson and Grimes were just flat tremendous. The poise they showed was better than the guys that had experience.

Switched over to the Gonzaga game for awhile. Idaho State has a Muggsy Bogues-sized guy who's throwing his body around against the bigs. (Listed at 5-8 on the roster...no way.) Entertaining, if nothing else. .

@BShark yeah, missed several layups and some outside shots.

KUSTEVE said:

Dotson and Grimes were just flat tremendous. The poise they showed was better than the guys that had experience.

We've seen what Self has done with 5 guards before... cough2008coughcough*

Coach Self calls Grimes "Q"; so will I.

Only scored 6 points in the final 5 minutes with 5 missed free ones in that span.

stoptheflop said:

Coach Self calls Grimes "Q"; so will I.

Is that a political reference ? Q being a deep state theorist? I can see Self buying into FBI conspiracies!

Lol

@Bwag

I thought Q made the fancy gadgets for James Bond.:smile:

JayHawkFanToo said:

@Bwag

I thought Q made the fancy gadgets for James Bond.:smile:

There's that too!

Zion Williams. 1 basket. $100k. Wonder what the Duke cost per point will end up at?

Any KU references in Duke/UK game commentary yet?

@Bwag Of course not.

KUSTEVE said:

@Bwag Of course not.

Hmmm. ESPN not talking about #1 team during a ACC/SEC game....hmmm

Dedric had a "bad game" with 20 points, 14 rebounds, 6 assists, 2 steals, and 2 blocks.

Can't wait until he starts playing well lol

Does Zion get the, what was that player at OU last year?, treatment from ESPN? With crazy unrelated factoids and childhood pics etc...

Vick was probably the most disappointing player for KU. He needs to play better. Grimes looked like the senior and Vick the freshman tonight.

What's the over/under day count to a Zion W Kindergartner teacher interview?

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Vick was probably the most disappointing player for KU. He needs to play better. Grimes looked like the senior and Vick the freshman tonight.

32 minutes with his stat line is YIKES. Based on the minutes he is a ride or die guy, hope he starts playing like it.

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Vick was probably the most disappointing player for KU. He needs to play better. Grimes looked like the senior and Vick the freshman tonight.

Was he bad or just not at forefront?

@Bwag And not one word about his price...

tucky is getting their ass kicked...

2 points (1-7), didn't get to the line, 3 boards, 3 dimes, 3 thefts, 2 turnovers. He needs to do better than that. I thought he took some shots that were out of rhythm.

I'd say Vick is engaged, which is saying a lot.

KUSTEVE said:

@Bwag And not one word about his price...

That narrative is only in place for KU. DOLLAR BILL DERPPPPP

KUSTEVE said:

tucky is getting their ass kicked...

Glad to gain one on them.

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

2 points (1-7), didn't get to the line, 3 boards, 3 dimes, 3 thefts, 2 turnovers. He needs to do better than that. I thought he took some shots that were out of rhythm.

Just can't play 30+ minutes and have stat lines like this. The 5th big minute player will be needed some nights. Dotson and Grimes are FR etc...

So I think I was wrong about Duke and Kentucky. I will fully own up to the L if the game keeps going this way.

Talking about all the NBA picks, but not a hint about how they obviously pay players too. K

Ya, go ahead and give me the L.

@KirkIsMyHinrich it's not your fault- you had no idea that Tucky played no defense whatsoever.

@KUSTEVE It's usually the one thing that they do.

KUSTEVE said:

@KirkIsMyHinrich it's not your fault- you had no idea that Tucky played no defense whatsoever.

Imagine a UK team being so mismatched athletically. Cal has NO idea what to do and it's beautiful. Self has worked with these kind of handicaps before and done well enough.

No defense may be an understatement. Duke is on a 140-point pace right now.

I didn't think KJ was that bad tonight. 4 points (1-1), 6 rebounds, 1 assist, 0 turnovers in 10 minutes.

I don’t like Cal but he is entertaining, Coach rat face is smug, sanctimonious, arrogant and a pompous a$$ and he has an attitude that he and Duke are better than anyone else. As Much as I would like to gain a game on UK, I rather see Duke go down.

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

I didn't think KJ was that bad tonight. 4 points (1-1), 6 rebounds, 1 assist, 0 turnovers in 10 minutes.

Better than Vick for sure.

The thing I'll say for Cal is that he doesn't teach flopping/charge-taking. He just lets his athletes run and play, and if they win it's based on athleticism/skill. Can't say the same thing for Consonants.

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

The thing I'll say for Cal is that he doesn't teach flopping/charge-taking. He just lets his athletes run and play, and if they win it's based on athleticism/skill. Can't say the same thing for Consonants.

Not being able to coach a lick is costing him big time so far tonight.

He's being out-athleted.

@BShark Thats what’s so funny to me Dook, UNC and UK fans talking smack that KU pays players. You guys get better recruits than Kansas what do you think is happening there? Is what I always ask. I’d be willing to bet that the vast majority of D1 guys get stuff they shouldn’t, as I’ve stated Ik guys that have in the smaller ranks of college that has a ton of less money flow.

I wasn’t the least but impressed with K.J. or Moore. Those two guys have a fair amount of work ahead of them if they want to stay in the rotation most games. Vick was a total ghost, I literally don’t remember anything he did good or bad. Which isn’t good for a guy that was on the floor for 32 minutes.

Honestly don't think KJ was that bad. He did air-ball a free throw though lol.