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Rocktagon the Chalktagon
Feb 06, 2019 02:03 AM #1

Let's stop being dumb!

Feb 06, 2019 02:03 AM #2

Good start. LOL

Feb 06, 2019 02:04 AM #3

We're going to have to be tougher and crisper with the ball

Feb 06, 2019 02:04 AM #4

Starting exactly how I thought it would.

Feb 06, 2019 02:04 AM #5

Bwag said:

We're going to have to be tougher and crisper with the ball

I know...I'm a genius

Feb 06, 2019 02:04 AM #6

A couple buckets, thats alright. Let's get some stops.

Feb 06, 2019 02:04 AM #7

Grimes ain’t ready for this

Feb 06, 2019 02:04 AM #8

Oh boy

Feb 06, 2019 02:04 AM #9

Step to the ball

Feb 06, 2019 02:04 AM #10

Shut em up with a free-throw LOL

Feb 06, 2019 02:05 AM #11

Guard them

Feb 06, 2019 02:05 AM #12

Nice free throw

Feb 06, 2019 02:05 AM #13

And...Captain Obvious says: Make our FT's

Feb 06, 2019 02:05 AM #14

Defense is a luxury we can't not afford.

Feb 06, 2019 02:05 AM #15

How about we guard their best offensive player

Feb 06, 2019 02:05 AM #16

Nice guarding by Vick. He just stood there

Feb 06, 2019 02:06 AM #17

BeddieKU23 said:

Nice guarding by Vick. He just stood there

No, he took a half-hearted stroll in his general direction

Feb 06, 2019 02:06 AM #18

Dotson is my Hawk to Rock. Steady us Devon!

Feb 06, 2019 02:07 AM #19

Grimes lost. 21 games of it

Feb 06, 2019 02:07 AM #20

Was Wiggins half court bankshot against the Kitties?

Feb 06, 2019 02:07 AM #21

Bank is open

Feb 06, 2019 02:07 AM #22

Agbaji seriously stop trying to take his wallet

Feb 06, 2019 02:07 AM #23

Agbaji, lets goooooo

Feb 06, 2019 02:08 AM #24

Wow we are make them look great offensively

Feb 06, 2019 02:08 AM #25

Vick should just find the bus

Feb 06, 2019 02:08 AM #26

Grimes and Vick combo on D is not gonna be good tonight.

Feb 06, 2019 02:08 AM #27

Grimes

Feb 06, 2019 02:08 AM #28

Grimes Hasn't thrown a decent pass yet.

Feb 06, 2019 02:08 AM #29

Can't dribble or catch either

Feb 06, 2019 02:08 AM #30

If we weren't pissing away possessions leading to run outs we'd be alright.

Feb 06, 2019 02:09 AM #31

Like I said Grimes. Miss Garrett.

Feb 06, 2019 02:09 AM #32

Grimes is a defenders dream

Feb 06, 2019 02:09 AM #33

THE BANK'S OPEN!!!!

Feb 06, 2019 02:09 AM #34

@approxinfinity

Gonna be one of them nights again. Just a poor team away from home

Feb 06, 2019 02:09 AM #35

Grimes starts to drive then pauses, let the defender get back in position.

Feb 06, 2019 02:09 AM #36

Protect the damn ball

Feb 06, 2019 02:09 AM #37

@approxinfinity true

Feb 06, 2019 02:10 AM #38

This start is especially bad since KState doesn't offense very well.

Feb 06, 2019 02:10 AM #39

Its already over folks, KSU is playing hard, we are not. It's that damn simple, play hard or go home!

Feb 06, 2019 02:10 AM #40

We're going to miss Garrett in this one more than I expected

Feb 06, 2019 02:10 AM #41

This team isn’t good enough to not value the ball

Feb 06, 2019 02:10 AM #42

@kjayhawks geez

Feb 06, 2019 02:10 AM #43

kjayhawks said:

Its already over folks, KSU is playing hard, we are not. It's that damn simple, play hard or go home!

Lets see what we look like after this timeout.

Feb 06, 2019 02:10 AM #44

@kjayhawks pump them up coach

Feb 06, 2019 02:10 AM #45

I think that's 3 times already for the F-KU chant. Keep it classy Silo Tech!

Feb 06, 2019 02:11 AM #46

@Texas-Hawk-10 low class is still classy, just ask a KSU'er

Feb 06, 2019 02:11 AM #47

@Bwag would be a NSFW timeout forsure lol. You can not come out like that on road, just can't.

Feb 06, 2019 02:12 AM #48

Moore and MItch? Ok, wtf.

Feb 06, 2019 02:12 AM #49

Oh my gosh

Feb 06, 2019 02:12 AM #50

Good D!

Feb 06, 2019 02:12 AM #51

Charlie's a passer, not a dribbler.

Feb 06, 2019 02:13 AM #52

Yay Mitch! An actual basket

Feb 06, 2019 02:13 AM #53

Mitch looking beefy? Nice board.

Feb 06, 2019 02:13 AM #54

His one skill?

Feb 06, 2019 02:13 AM #55

Well grimes and Vick were bad. Too few good options sometimes.

Feb 06, 2019 02:13 AM #56

dafuqq was that ref?

Feb 06, 2019 02:14 AM #57

Sucked

Feb 06, 2019 02:14 AM #58

approxinfinity said:

Mitch looking beefy? Nice board.

and put back

Feb 06, 2019 02:14 AM #59

Pack it up. Times up

Feb 06, 2019 02:14 AM #60

Pathetic call

Feb 06, 2019 02:14 AM #61

What was that?!?

Feb 06, 2019 02:14 AM #62

and the refs start to make their presence known

Feb 06, 2019 02:14 AM #63

OK Charlie! In the flow. Steal and pass! Works!

Feb 06, 2019 02:15 AM #64

Nice rebound Lawson, NOT

Feb 06, 2019 02:15 AM #65

Devon so good.

Feb 06, 2019 02:15 AM #66

lets go here

Feb 06, 2019 02:16 AM #67

I think mitch has all our rebounds

Feb 06, 2019 02:16 AM #68

Literally zero effort to rebound

Feb 06, 2019 02:17 AM #69

This team is really missing Marcus

Feb 06, 2019 02:17 AM #70

.... 3 minutes later... Charlie and Mitch still deserving to be in there... dig it!

Feb 06, 2019 02:17 AM #71

DanR said:

I think mitch has all our rebounds

Both of them.

Feb 06, 2019 02:17 AM #72

BeddieKU23 said:

Literally zero effort to rebound

Not sure if the shot was so bad it caught us flat footed, but blocking out would have been helpful

Feb 06, 2019 02:18 AM #73

I don't think Weber prerpped against a zone

Feb 06, 2019 02:18 AM #74

steady the ship...and lets take it to them from here

Feb 06, 2019 02:18 AM #75

Dotson is the hero we need!

Feb 06, 2019 02:18 AM #76

Alright

Feb 06, 2019 02:18 AM #77

HA HA

Feb 06, 2019 02:18 AM #78

Playing harder now, if u gave up, go home

Feb 06, 2019 02:19 AM #79

I like this

Feb 06, 2019 02:19 AM #80

Game of runs

Feb 06, 2019 02:19 AM #81

KStates 3 ball against zone not quite as good as against m2m...it is one of their weaknesses.

Feb 06, 2019 02:19 AM #82

Back in the game.

Feb 06, 2019 02:19 AM #83

Mitch getting us second chances

Feb 06, 2019 02:19 AM #84

When @drgnslayr made a comment about how this moment when Devonte talked to the team is the moment that Devon starts leading this team, it felt very right. I think he's onto something. This is Devon's world, and the Kitties are just living in it.

Feb 06, 2019 02:20 AM #85

Charlie and Mitch helped settle things down, who'd have thunk it.

Feb 06, 2019 02:20 AM #86

Solid minutes for mitch

Feb 06, 2019 02:21 AM #87

NBA guys don't know crap about us. All about if they can play in nba

Feb 06, 2019 02:21 AM #88

zone was a good call l, if we can rebound outta it.

Feb 06, 2019 02:21 AM #89

Chauncey play in AFH?

Feb 06, 2019 02:21 AM #90

You'd think Billups could at least talk about playing in the big 12.

Feb 06, 2019 02:21 AM #91

@Texas-Hawk-10 that's half as many as I've said here in my couch

Feb 06, 2019 02:21 AM #92

Yeah ,he played for Colorado when they were B12 , @Crimsonorblue22

Feb 06, 2019 02:22 AM #93

Anything is better then Fran talking about liberace's plan to beat KU for 40 minutes

Feb 06, 2019 02:22 AM #94

@approxinfinity were they even ever big 8?

Feb 06, 2019 02:23 AM #95

That’s awful. Can’t get a shot out of a timeout and give up and and 1.

Feb 06, 2019 02:23 AM #96

Grimes is the worst defender I've seen

Feb 06, 2019 02:23 AM #97

BeddieKU23 said:

Grimes is the worst defender I've seen

Brannen Greene says hi.

Feb 06, 2019 02:23 AM #98

Grimes is terrible

Feb 06, 2019 02:23 AM #99

what...that should either be on the floor or not anything

Feb 06, 2019 02:23 AM #100

@Texas-Hawk-10

Still better then grimes

Feb 06, 2019 02:23 AM #101

Bwag said:

@approxinfinity were they even ever big 8?

ahh yep you're right

Feb 06, 2019 02:24 AM #102

BeddieKU23 said:

@Texas-Hawk-10

Still better then grimes

No he wasn't.

Feb 06, 2019 02:24 AM #103

Texas Hawk 10 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

@Texas-Hawk-10

Still better then grimes

No he wasn't.

At least he could shoot

Feb 06, 2019 02:25 AM #104

Sophomore Grimes will be better than sophomore Brannen, I hope. Much much less weed.

HELL YES MITCH!

Feb 06, 2019 02:25 AM #105

approxinfinity said:

Bwag said:

@approxinfinity were they even ever big 8?

ahh yep you're right

I think we rented out Allen Field House West to them for their other games...

Feb 06, 2019 02:25 AM #106

Lightfoot!

Feb 06, 2019 02:25 AM #107

Dedric that was garbage man.

Feb 06, 2019 02:26 AM #108

Back to Curse of Oak Island........
Crap - the State of the Union would be better than this garbage

Feb 06, 2019 02:26 AM #109

Deric was hacked. Make up call on the other end

Feb 06, 2019 02:27 AM #110

Ochai playing young

Feb 06, 2019 02:27 AM #111

Mitch has 6 points and 5 boards in 7 minutes.

Feb 06, 2019 02:27 AM #112

Agbaji looking like a freshman who just joined the team.

Feb 06, 2019 02:27 AM #113

BeddieKU23 said:

Grimes is the worst defender I've seen

Here's you're original comment I responded to. You said nothing about offense. So again, Brannen Greene was worse defender than Grimes.

Feb 06, 2019 02:27 AM #114

Self is going to have to go back to Vick

Feb 06, 2019 02:27 AM #115

Chuck

Feb 06, 2019 02:27 AM #116

turnovers

Feb 06, 2019 02:27 AM #117

nonononono yess CHuck

Feb 06, 2019 02:27 AM #118

Whatever we think this offense is it dont work. Spend the entire possession going side to side 30 feet from the hoop

Feb 06, 2019 02:27 AM #119

If we keep it single digits before half we lucky

Feb 06, 2019 02:28 AM #120

Oh my

Feb 06, 2019 02:28 AM #121

Lose to every other team in the conference - BUT NOT TO K-FRICKING-STATE!

Feb 06, 2019 02:28 AM #122

CHUCK

Feb 06, 2019 02:28 AM #123

That was sick agbaji

Feb 06, 2019 02:28 AM #124

If Charlie Moore is the Kittie Killer I'm ok with that :joy:

Feb 06, 2019 02:28 AM #125

Quick hands chuck

Feb 06, 2019 02:28 AM #126

nice little dish there too. WHO IS THIS CHARLIE GUY?

Feb 06, 2019 02:28 AM #127

What a great play by Moore to agbaji

Feb 06, 2019 02:29 AM #128

I believe he goes by Charles now.

Feb 06, 2019 02:29 AM #129

Better than grimes or vick

Feb 06, 2019 02:29 AM #130

Moore playing... well?

Feb 06, 2019 02:29 AM #131

approxinfinity said:

If Charlie Moore is the Kittie Killer I'm ok with that :joy:

Bottle him up for 2 games a yr

Feb 06, 2019 02:29 AM #132

Prince Charles

Feb 06, 2019 02:29 AM #133

Oh you mean Charles Moore..

Feb 06, 2019 02:29 AM #134

@DanR can't do it

Feb 06, 2019 02:29 AM #135

lolol

Feb 06, 2019 02:29 AM #136

No Vick for the last 7 minutes. Glad self saw him check out

Feb 06, 2019 02:30 AM #137

The artist formerly known as Chuck.

Feb 06, 2019 02:30 AM #138

Moore needs to run the show tonight and keep Dotson off the ball as much as possible to limit turnovers and use Dotson's speed and quickness to get him going downhill.

Feb 06, 2019 02:30 AM #139

Charles Moorentgomery Floorburns

Feb 06, 2019 02:30 AM #140

If chuck gets those steals......

Feb 06, 2019 02:30 AM #141

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Charles Moorentgomery Floorburns

Haha

Feb 06, 2019 02:30 AM #142

Cha Cha GaMoore

Feb 06, 2019 02:30 AM #143

Ochai!! Hopefully that gets some juice going, continuing solidness from Moore and Lightfoot.

Feb 06, 2019 02:30 AM #144

Texas Hawk 10 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

Grimes is the worst defender I've seen

Here's you're original comment I responded to. You said nothing about offense. So again, Brannen Greene was worse defender than Grimes.

Hmmmmm.....could Greene actually ever have been considered a defender?

Feb 06, 2019 02:31 AM #145

Were u holding your breath on that fast break?

Feb 06, 2019 02:31 AM #146

You guys get the Taco Johns commercial? I love it.

Feb 06, 2019 02:31 AM #147

DanR said:

You guys get the Taco Johns commercial? I love it.

sadly no

Feb 06, 2019 02:31 AM #148

DanR said:

You guys get the Taco Johns commercial? I love it.

Nope, laser x

Feb 06, 2019 02:31 AM #149

the real charlie finally shows up....

Feb 06, 2019 02:32 AM #150

Wth...

Feb 06, 2019 02:32 AM #151

Hi energy drink kJ

Feb 06, 2019 02:32 AM #152

Refs need to check the rule book

Feb 06, 2019 02:32 AM #153

mayjay said:

Texas Hawk 10 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

Grimes is the worst defender I've seen

Here's you're original comment I responded to. You said nothing about offense. So again, Brannen Greene was worse defender than Grimes.

Hmmmmm.....could Greene actually ever have been considered a defender?

like Josh Jackson, he might be known to kick defender.

sorry, dad jokes.

Feb 06, 2019 02:32 AM #154

What a pathetic call on grimes

Feb 06, 2019 02:32 AM #155

Grimes

Feb 06, 2019 02:33 AM #156

mayjay said:

Texas Hawk 10 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

Grimes is the worst defender I've seen

Here's you're original comment I responded to. You said nothing about offense. So again, Brannen Greene was worse defender than Grimes.

Hmmmmm.....could Greene actually ever have been considered a defender?

No, pretty sure it took until late sophomore year or junior year to record his first steal.

Feb 06, 2019 02:33 AM #157

I've seen more charge calls than I've seen in a week in the NBA (ONE OF THE ANNOUNCERS)

Feb 06, 2019 02:33 AM #158

these dummass NBA guys don't know which team is which

Feb 06, 2019 02:33 AM #159

@nuleafjhawk lol

Feb 06, 2019 02:33 AM #160

He forgot to say ON KU

Feb 06, 2019 02:33 AM #161

Crossover dumb

Feb 06, 2019 02:34 AM #162

nuleafjhawk said:

I've seen more charge calls than I've seen in a week in the NBA (ONE OF THE ANNOUNCERS)

You can go a week of college ball as well and not see this many as well.

Feb 06, 2019 02:34 AM #163

Don't think Chuck likes katz

Feb 06, 2019 02:34 AM #164

Stop dribbling, Grimes.

Feb 06, 2019 02:34 AM #165

Refs are blind

Feb 06, 2019 02:34 AM #166

Was there a foul there? Wasnt he 3 feet away?

Feb 06, 2019 02:34 AM #167

Relax Q

Feb 06, 2019 02:34 AM #168

Is that 4 turnovers for Grimes?

Feb 06, 2019 02:35 AM #169

Wade playing like a junior who just joined the team.

Feb 06, 2019 02:35 AM #170

Vick on the bench for a long while

Feb 06, 2019 02:35 AM #171

@Woodrow at least 4

Feb 06, 2019 02:35 AM #172

approxinfinity said:

Was there a foul there? Wasnt he 3 feet away?

Maybe not, but Agbaji put himself in a bad spot by reaching though.

Feb 06, 2019 02:35 AM #173

There is NO WAY the refs let KU win this game. They all want the streak to end. To our "rival" . Make me puke.

Feb 06, 2019 02:36 AM #174

What?

Feb 06, 2019 02:36 AM #175

See what I mean? Travel my butt

Feb 06, 2019 02:36 AM #176

NO WAY Dedric left his feet

Feb 06, 2019 02:36 AM #177

kjayhawks said:

Vick on the bench for a long while

These guys are getting it done. :thumbsup:

Feb 06, 2019 02:36 AM #178

@Woodrow 3 turnovers for Grimes

Feb 06, 2019 02:36 AM #179

Ohhhh KJ... Was that 3.5 steps, a held ball and a charge?

Feb 06, 2019 02:36 AM #180

Lol that ref on that side literally cant see

Feb 06, 2019 02:36 AM #181

travel?

Feb 06, 2019 02:36 AM #182

He wasn't set. Good god.

Feb 06, 2019 02:37 AM #183

These refs are trash both ways

Feb 06, 2019 02:37 AM #184

This game should be sponsored by Capital One with all these charges.

Feb 06, 2019 02:37 AM #185

Feed the man

Feb 06, 2019 02:37 AM #186

kjayhawks said:

Vick on the bench for a long while

He can stay there

Feb 06, 2019 02:37 AM #187

@approxinfinity LOL

Feb 06, 2019 02:38 AM #188

See charlie, when you look AT the basket, you have a chance.

Feb 06, 2019 02:38 AM #189

I would have gotten at least 1 technical already

Feb 06, 2019 02:38 AM #190

Woah Charlie.

Awful foul though.

Feb 06, 2019 02:38 AM #191

Dude, that Charlie Moore shot was... actually.. beautiful form. high point elevation. wow.

Feb 06, 2019 02:38 AM #192

Moore playing very good so far.

Feb 06, 2019 02:38 AM #193

What is Mitch doing?!

Feb 06, 2019 02:38 AM #194

Wow are u serious

Feb 06, 2019 02:39 AM #195

Mitch!

Feb 06, 2019 02:40 AM #196

Lol

Feb 06, 2019 02:40 AM #197

Gotta get Dedric going.

Feb 06, 2019 02:40 AM #198

Charlie looks like he's been lifting too. these guys look like they've been kicking their asses in the gym after those losses.

Feb 06, 2019 02:40 AM #199

WHAT??? A FOUL ON K-STATE???

Feb 06, 2019 02:40 AM #200

Bruce we up, don't hurt your neck

Feb 06, 2019 02:40 AM #201

@nuleafjhawk glad u r here

Feb 06, 2019 02:40 AM #202

Lets stretch this to 2 or 3 possessions. Shockedogon of Glum.

Feb 06, 2019 02:40 AM #203

6 charges, wow!

Feb 06, 2019 02:40 AM #204

Late comment, but that charge call on KJ was so bad.

Feb 06, 2019 02:41 AM #205

I'm a little behind, but I just saw the worst charge call in the history of all basketball.

Feb 06, 2019 02:41 AM #206

Weird game, eh?

Feb 06, 2019 02:41 AM #207

@Texas-Hawk-10 plus 1 for us?

Feb 06, 2019 02:41 AM #208

I'm impressed with our poise since that first time out @approxinfinity you called it

Feb 06, 2019 02:41 AM #209

@Crinsonorblue22 Thanks. Oak Island was boring.

Feb 06, 2019 02:41 AM #210

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Late comment, but that charge call on KJ was so bad.

you mean KJ's play was 3 kinds of awful or the call should have been in his favor?

Feb 06, 2019 02:41 AM #211

Grimes charges looked bad too

Feb 06, 2019 02:42 AM #212

@approxinfinity I mean that was an obvious blocking foul. The KState player was slipping and shuffling his feet.

Feb 06, 2019 02:42 AM #213

BeddieKU23 said:

I'm impressed with our poise since that first time out @approxinfinity you called it

Agbaji the only guy looking a little struck by the atmosophere still after that TO, true.

Feb 06, 2019 02:42 AM #214

Wade wasn't set on his

Feb 06, 2019 02:42 AM #215

We look decent when k st goes 7 minutes without scoring. They are building some nice brick houses

Feb 06, 2019 02:42 AM #216

nuleafjhawk said:

WHAT??? A FOUL ON K-STATE???

BOOOOO

Feb 06, 2019 02:42 AM #217

I'm surprised he's in w/2 fouls

Feb 06, 2019 02:43 AM #218

approxinfinity said:

BeddieKU23 said:

I'm impressed with our poise since that first time out @approxinfinity you called it

Agbaji the only guy looking a little struck by the atmosophere still after that TO, true.

Hes in foul trouble as well.

Feb 06, 2019 02:43 AM #219

@Crimsonorblue22 I believe they've called 3 apiece.

Feb 06, 2019 02:43 AM #220

feed the beast... feed charlie...

Feb 06, 2019 02:43 AM #221

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

@approxinfinity I mean that was an obvious blocking foul. The KState player was slipping and shuffling his feet.

I guess you're probably right but when you swing the ball slowly from side to side at waist level while taking 3.5 plodding steps towards the rim amidst 3 defenders you resemble a mack truck backing up more than a competent offensive player.

Feb 06, 2019 02:43 AM #222

Plenty of open 10 foot shots for Wade, but those are tough

Feb 06, 2019 02:43 AM #223

Crimsonorblue22 said:

I'm surprised he's in w/2 fouls

Cant play Vick tonight. Kid left his brain in Lawrence again

Feb 06, 2019 02:44 AM #224

I don't get the sign?

Feb 06, 2019 02:44 AM #225

Ugly media bench there

Feb 06, 2019 02:44 AM #226

Wade again sloppy.

Feb 06, 2019 02:44 AM #227

It's the girls birthday, I guess. Not sharing her cake.

Feb 06, 2019 02:44 AM #228

He just blew out her candles

Feb 06, 2019 02:45 AM #229

@DanR just dumb

Feb 06, 2019 02:45 AM #230

Gotta make that Dedric

Feb 06, 2019 02:45 AM #231

Who was that foul on, where's dchawker?

Feb 06, 2019 02:45 AM #232

Dedric making a so so defensive player in Wade look decent

Feb 06, 2019 02:45 AM #233

State finally gets off 26

Feb 06, 2019 02:45 AM #234

Don't want Wade ever getting comfortable.

Feb 06, 2019 02:46 AM #235

@Woodrow

Thought the same. At least pile your shoulder into him and force a foul

Feb 06, 2019 02:46 AM #236

Good FT defense

Feb 06, 2019 02:46 AM #237

Was that Mitch or Charles' fault?

Feb 06, 2019 02:46 AM #238

I might have to slo-mo that charlie twirl move

Feb 06, 2019 02:46 AM #239

Mitch don't know where chuck is going

Feb 06, 2019 02:46 AM #240

Hard screen by Mitch on Charles

Feb 06, 2019 02:46 AM #241

BeddieKU23 said:

@Woodrow

Thought the same. At least pile your shoulder into him and force a foul

He needs to keep driving and draw fouls.

Feb 06, 2019 02:47 AM #242

@Crimsonorblue22 it means "I am stupid"

Feb 06, 2019 02:47 AM #243

Mitch, come on man!

Feb 06, 2019 02:47 AM #244

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Mitch don't know where chuck is going

Makes 2 of them and thousands of us.

Feb 06, 2019 02:47 AM #245

Nice ball movement.

Feb 06, 2019 02:47 AM #246

Hit those damn layups

Feb 06, 2019 02:48 AM #247

Waste of mic there

Feb 06, 2019 02:48 AM #248

Can our guy foul our own guy? I'd trade a foul on mitch there for 2 FT's for Charlie

Feb 06, 2019 02:48 AM #249

Sorry, Iove me some Chauncey from his time in Detroit, he gets a pass on rambling.

Feb 06, 2019 02:48 AM #250

My girl

Feb 06, 2019 02:49 AM #251

Huge turn of events there

Feb 06, 2019 02:49 AM #252

This blind spin move is not wokring Dedric.

Feb 06, 2019 02:49 AM #253

Where was someone cutting into the midddle so we didn't have to try and drive it into that area

Feb 06, 2019 02:49 AM #254

There will always be a double team waiting on the spin.

Feb 06, 2019 02:50 AM #255

We suck at closing out half’s and gsmes

Feb 06, 2019 02:50 AM #256

We should be up 10, but we could be down 10.

Feb 06, 2019 02:50 AM #257

Ya. Feel like we could have went in up 8-10

Feb 06, 2019 02:50 AM #258

Better with someone else driving and kicking to Dedric like a couple possessions ago.

Feb 06, 2019 02:50 AM #259

@approxinfinity The behind the back was as shockingly successful as it was entirely unnecessary.

Feb 06, 2019 02:50 AM #260

Right where I wanted us. I predict a 50-27 second half for us.

Feb 06, 2019 02:50 AM #261

Van Gundry was waste of mic

Feb 06, 2019 02:51 AM #262

@mayjay scared me

Feb 06, 2019 02:51 AM #263

I'll take a halftime lead after that start.

Feb 06, 2019 02:51 AM #264

12 turnovers needs to not happen in half 2

Feb 06, 2019 02:51 AM #265

Mood in the Octagon of Impending Doom seems subdued

Feb 06, 2019 02:51 AM #266

Octagon of Dumb

Feb 06, 2019 02:51 AM #267

After first 4 minutes, solid B+

Feb 06, 2019 02:52 AM #268

DanR said:

Mood in the Octagon of Impending Doom seems subdued

Maybe no one else is going to that kid's party either.

Feb 06, 2019 02:52 AM #269

Back to the darn driving offense with really no real angles or approach...just drive it into the heart of the defense and throw up a prayer

Feb 06, 2019 02:52 AM #270

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

12 turnovers needs to not happen in half 2

A lot of those were offensive fouls. Strangely prolific in this game.

Feb 06, 2019 02:52 AM #271

excellent first half.

Feb 06, 2019 02:52 AM #272

tundrahok said:

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

12 turnovers needs to not happen in half 2

A lot of those were offensive fouls. Strangely prolific in this game.

Officials are probably Duke fans.

Feb 06, 2019 02:52 AM #273

When I saw Van Gundy announcing, I thought it was Jeff. Jeff is a very good and entertaining analyst. I don't think Billups does commentary very often which would explain why he's so awkward. I think he's usually a studio guy.

Feb 06, 2019 02:52 AM #274

Van Gundy is just there for the buffet. Right now he's wandering around saying, "There IS a buffet, right?'

Feb 06, 2019 02:53 AM #275

DanR said:

Van Gundy is just there for the buffet. Right now he's wandering around saying, "There IS a buffet, right?'

Trough.

Feb 06, 2019 02:53 AM #276

It's being called one of the most bizarre events in broadcast history tonight. The announcers have not mentioned Duke even once.

Feb 06, 2019 02:54 AM #277

Where I work there is me and one other KU fan. Yes, two winners in the whole company. I see and hear purple all day every day. Losing to them would make me puke.

Feb 06, 2019 02:54 AM #278

I'm just happy we have a lead after the start, I thought we was gonna get ran out of the building. If we can continue to guard and stop with the TOs we will be in good shape. If we stay in the zone, be careful of the Lob because it's there almost everytime. Hopefully Vick is waking up as we are speaking.

Feb 06, 2019 02:54 AM #279

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Feb 06, 2019 02:54 AM #280

Van Gutdy needs a hotdog immediately.

Feb 06, 2019 02:54 AM #281

Tre Jones has terrible shooting form.

Feb 06, 2019 02:54 AM #282

@KirkIsMyHinrich #dead

Feb 06, 2019 02:55 AM #283

Those guys are so much better than frannie, it's ridiculous. no agendas ...they're complimenting ku, and i certainly remember us facing chauncey back in the day...

Feb 06, 2019 02:55 AM #284

Hold on Wisox, DUKE HILGHLIGHTS for the entire halftime.

Feb 06, 2019 02:55 AM #285

KUSTEVE said:

Those guys are so much better than frannie, it's ridiculous. no agendas ...they're complimenting ku, and i certainly remember us facing chauncey back in the day...

:100:

Feb 06, 2019 02:55 AM #286

I hear there's a parody newspaper speech tonight. The state of The Onion.

Feb 06, 2019 02:56 AM #287

@DanR I know, as soon as I mention it, THE DUKE HALFTIME SHOW BROUGHT TO YOU BY DUKE

Feb 06, 2019 02:56 AM #288

i'm not a sotu kinda guy. i have avoided watching them for decades...

Feb 06, 2019 02:56 AM #289

@KUSTEVE I am always shocked how long some guys have been out of college bb...old, old, I feel old. Then I see the grade school kids in the stands, and feel even older.

Feb 06, 2019 02:57 AM #290

Hope Ty Jerome is good to go against Duke. F---- DUKE!

Feb 06, 2019 02:58 AM #291

mayjay said:

@KUSTEVE I am always shocked how long some guys have been out of college bb...old, old, I feel old. Then I see the grade school kids in the stands, and feel even older.

Grab a beer for me too while you're up?

Feb 06, 2019 02:58 AM #292

@KUSTEVE It's a stupid title - there is no union in any of the states.

Feb 06, 2019 02:58 AM #293

wissox said:

It's being called one of the most bizarre events in broadcast history tonight. The announcers have not mentioned Duke even once.

Duke vs Virginia...anyone think ESPN announcers will actually orgasm on the air...?

Feb 06, 2019 02:58 AM #294

I'm really glad we don't get Dakich doing our games very often. Tonight during the great Illini win over MSU Dakich says "there's a three team race in the BIG, MSU, Purdue, and Michigan, and maybe Wisconsin" Wisconsin is currently tied for 2nd with MSU, one game back.

Feb 06, 2019 02:58 AM #295

Does Virginia have a chance??? WHO GIVES A RAT"S ASS....THIS IS KU BB... ya jerks...

Feb 06, 2019 02:58 AM #296

I think I remember Chauncey scoring like 40 points in at least one game in AFH West. And lost. He seems to have blocked his college playing days from his mind, which I don't blame him for, because those CU teams were pretty bad.

Feb 06, 2019 03:00 AM #297

@DanR I remember several iterations of stars that got theirs for Colorado... and still lost. Alec Burks was another one. Classic Bill Self Big 12 Victory.

Feb 06, 2019 03:00 AM #298

All KU fans - the majority of the first half was my fault. Imagine my horror when I noticed I was sitting on the love seat, not the sofa. The problem Has been remedied.

Feb 06, 2019 03:00 AM #299

approxinfinity said:

mayjay said:

@KUSTEVE I am always shocked how long some guys have been out of college bb...old, old, I feel old. Then I see the grade school kids in the stands, and feel even older.

Grab a beer for me too while you're up?

I mixed a Manhattan and we took the lead...

Feb 06, 2019 03:01 AM #300

wissox said:

I'm really glad we don't get Dakich doing our games very often. Tonight during the great Illini win over MSU Dakich says "there's a three team race in the BIG, MSU, Purdue, and Michigan, and maybe Wisconsin" Wisconsin is currently tied for 2nd with MSU, one game back.

Well, he is regular in that conference and they also can't count to 10, so what do you expect? Not that we can talk...

Feb 06, 2019 03:01 AM #301

James putting on weight or is it the purple Lakers uniform? Looking very Barneyesque.

Feb 06, 2019 03:01 AM #302

we beat silo tech because Charlie finally came to play, our our long lost Lightfoot comes out of cryogenics, and kicks ass. That's the narrative so far, right? We have a double Lazarus effect going on...

Feb 06, 2019 03:02 AM #303

Bruce Weber before the game: WE ARE ABSOLUTELY PREPARED FOR THE ZONE WHAT A PREPOSTEROUS QUESTION!!!

Bruce Weber during the game: alt text

Feb 06, 2019 03:03 AM #304

Wow, NCState has scored 96 against UNC tonight, a few days after scoring 24. Of course they gave up 113. Something tells me our game isn't going to end 113 to 96 tonight, although that would be quite exciting.

Feb 06, 2019 03:03 AM #305

KUSTEVE said:

we beat silo tech because Charlie finally came to play, our our long lost Lightfoot comes out of cryogenics, and kicks ass. That's the narrative so far, right? We have a double Lazarus effect going on...

Give em the ol' Double Mickelson!

Feb 06, 2019 03:03 AM #306

@nuleafjhawk I appreciate a man that admits his faults, now don't do it again.

Feb 06, 2019 03:03 AM #307

Some help from some un-expected sources - - Mitch nice 1st half - - like 6 rebounds - -5-6 points - - Charlie 2-2 3pt shots - -6 points - - - - a steals we need that

Feb 06, 2019 03:03 AM #308

@Bwag Do you have a Still Water when we play O State? Drink Captain Morgan for WVU?

What is in a Waco?

Feb 06, 2019 03:04 AM #309

@BShark Weber may be what irks me most about K-State. He is just weird. I don't ever want to lose to a team coached by him or Scott Drew.

Feb 06, 2019 03:04 AM #310

@DanR maybe they went to the bday party

Feb 06, 2019 03:04 AM #311

Baylor's Irish Cream?

Feb 06, 2019 03:05 AM #312

I'm so happy for Mitch, he works so hard and is such a good dude, hopefully he can keep it up.

Feb 06, 2019 03:05 AM #313

Van Gundy in post-snack stupor.

Feb 06, 2019 03:06 AM #314

Where were these versions of these guys before today? Can we get Devonte to come back once a week?

Feb 06, 2019 03:06 AM #315

DanR said:

I think I remember Chauncey scoring like 40 points in at least one game in AFH West. And lost. He seems to have blocked his college playing days from his mind, which I don't blame him for, because those CU teams were pretty bad.

Colorado finished 2nd in the Big 12 in Billups senior year.

Feb 06, 2019 03:06 AM #316

Did Lightfoot live in KS as a kid?

Feb 06, 2019 03:06 AM #317

@tundrahok I think jayballer knew his family.

Feb 06, 2019 03:06 AM #318

tundrahok said:

Did Lightfoot live in KS as a kid?

Born in KC, moved to Arizona as a little kid.

Feb 06, 2019 03:07 AM #319

Sciambi usually paired with Bill Walton. I guess Walton didn't want to travel to the little apple in February.

Feb 06, 2019 03:07 AM #320

tundrahok said:

Did Lightfoot live in KS as a kid?

Born Mitchell Marion Lightfoot in Kansas City, Missouri ... Son of Matt and Rhonda Lightfoot … Has two younger brothers, Miles and Max, and a younger sister, Rhyann ... Moved from Kansas City to Tucson, Arizona, when he was five years old.

Feb 06, 2019 03:07 AM #321

There's a quote I never thought I'd hear:
Charlie Moore and Mitch Lightfoot have been the most valuable players on the court for Kansas

Feb 06, 2019 03:07 AM #322

Wade got blocked by the rim

Feb 06, 2019 03:08 AM #323

Vick has 2 fouls?

Feb 06, 2019 03:08 AM #324

Vick must be on the bus

Feb 06, 2019 03:08 AM #325

THATS SIR CHARLES TO YOU!

Feb 06, 2019 03:08 AM #326

DanR said:

Sciambi usually paired with Bill Walton. I guess Walton didn't want to travel to the little apple in February.

Sciambi does a lot of games with Fran as well.

Feb 06, 2019 03:08 AM #327

@Texas-Hawk-10 Thanks, I thought so but couldn't remember. Kansas kids usually get up for this game.

Feb 06, 2019 03:08 AM #328

wissox said:

Wade got blocked by the rim

The only defender we have that can get that high.

Feb 06, 2019 03:08 AM #329

AND Grimes was right there for the putback. Dig it.

Feb 06, 2019 03:08 AM #330

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Vick has 2 fouls?

No. He has 0

Feb 06, 2019 03:09 AM #331

Wade just jumped with the ball and then came down with it and then scored.

Feb 06, 2019 03:09 AM #332

Announcer said that's why he might b sitting

Feb 06, 2019 03:09 AM #333

This is uglier than the first half

Feb 06, 2019 03:09 AM #334

Vick off the hot seat.

Feb 06, 2019 03:10 AM #335

Alright LV. In the flow dude, in the flow.

Feb 06, 2019 03:10 AM #336

So many bad turnovers

Feb 06, 2019 03:10 AM #337

Dotson not starting the half well.

Feb 06, 2019 03:10 AM #338

Don't let Wade get set shots.

Feb 06, 2019 03:10 AM #339

I know I had Charlie as my hawk to rock, I just forgot to click post.

Feb 06, 2019 03:10 AM #340

@Texas-Hawk-10 trying to do it all right now

Feb 06, 2019 03:10 AM #341

Duh!

Feb 06, 2019 03:10 AM #342

Surprised they didn't call Dotson for a charge

Feb 06, 2019 03:11 AM #343

That was last year dude

Feb 06, 2019 03:11 AM #344

Good D

Feb 06, 2019 03:12 AM #345

Back to the loveseat

Feb 06, 2019 03:12 AM #346

Good pass

Feb 06, 2019 03:12 AM #347

Vick with the ole defense.

Feb 06, 2019 03:12 AM #348

Grimes is NOT a physical guard. But he should be.

Feb 06, 2019 03:13 AM #349

I call that turnstile defense.

Feb 06, 2019 03:13 AM #350

crap call

Feb 06, 2019 03:13 AM #351

Grimes is to basketball player as Stay Puff Marshmallow Man is to ghost.

Feb 06, 2019 03:14 AM #352

@approxinfinity Do you mean ghostbusters?

Feb 06, 2019 03:14 AM #353

yes, I mean he looks beefy, but he's soft.

Feb 06, 2019 03:15 AM #354

approxinfinity said:

yes, I mean he looks beefy, but he's soft.

Put him in the ring for a round or two with Hudy?

Feb 06, 2019 03:15 AM #355

approxinfinity said:

yes, I mean he looks beefy, but he's soft.

And slow. The lack of defensive effort continues to get a slide

Feb 06, 2019 03:15 AM #356

This looks like a game between two teams that exit the tournament early.

Feb 06, 2019 03:15 AM #357

Come on guys, you're letting them in it

Feb 06, 2019 03:16 AM #358

Bwag said:

approxinfinity said:

yes, I mean he looks beefy, but he's soft.

Put him in the ring for a round or two with Hudy?

If Hudy has a deathmatch cage with flames, spikes and poisonous snakes around the periphery, I think that might help him.

Feb 06, 2019 03:16 AM #359

the + / - when Vick is on the floor must have a ginormous spread. When he hits 3s it is way positive. The rest of the time, it is way negative.

Feb 06, 2019 03:16 AM #360

Public service announcement: SOTU still going on.

Feb 06, 2019 03:16 AM #361

what's that called? bimodal?

Feb 06, 2019 03:16 AM #362

I've heard people say he needs to slim down, get quicker

Feb 06, 2019 03:17 AM #363

How was that not a foul on Wade?

Feb 06, 2019 03:17 AM #364

@mayjay My god is trump going over his tax returns lol

Feb 06, 2019 03:18 AM #365

Dedric is expending all his energy bracing for impact then demonstratively pleading for a foul.

Feb 06, 2019 03:18 AM #366

Foul?

Feb 06, 2019 03:18 AM #367

The turnovers are absolutely going to give me a coronary.

Feb 06, 2019 03:18 AM #368

kjayhawks said:

@mayjay My god is trump going over his tax returns lol

The biggest loser of the SOTU is grammar.

Feb 06, 2019 03:18 AM #369

We look so bad on offense all of a sudden.

Feb 06, 2019 03:18 AM #370

16 turnovers, that's just pathetic

Feb 06, 2019 03:18 AM #371

@kjayhawks I think the length is just to make Pelosi suffer for delaying it.

Feb 06, 2019 03:18 AM #372

bskeet said:

The turnovers are absolutely going to give me a coronary.

KSU is good defensively but this is absurd.

Feb 06, 2019 03:18 AM #373

Because the refs have determined that the streak is over

Feb 06, 2019 03:18 AM #374

wissox said:

We look so bad on offense all of a sudden.

LV?

Feb 06, 2019 03:19 AM #375

@approxinfinity lv must go

Feb 06, 2019 03:19 AM #376

Whatever we adjusted at halftime... Dont

Feb 06, 2019 03:19 AM #377

If Vick isn't hitting, he is a liability.

Feb 06, 2019 03:19 AM #378

Dean hitting another set shot.

Feb 06, 2019 03:19 AM #379

Nothing better then watching Vick play 1 on 1 and miss

Feb 06, 2019 03:19 AM #380

Dedric can’t finish with any kind of contact

Feb 06, 2019 03:20 AM #381

We have 3 points in 5+ minutes (not counting the end of the first half)

Feb 06, 2019 03:20 AM #382

Can we just put the guys who did sh-- right back in?

Feb 06, 2019 03:20 AM #383

Guarding empty space

Feb 06, 2019 03:20 AM #384

Gotta pull Vick.

Feb 06, 2019 03:20 AM #385

catch under basket. Dribble out to 3 point. Shoot. Miss. No rebound (because everyone is wondering, "did that just happen?")

Feb 06, 2019 03:20 AM #386

Better wake up fellas or it's gonna get ugly

Feb 06, 2019 03:20 AM #387

@approxinfinity It could be LV, took me a minute to understand what LV was!

Feb 06, 2019 03:20 AM #388

@approxinfinity

I 2nd that, game getting away

Feb 06, 2019 03:20 AM #389

Charlie and Mitch earned the right to finish until proven otherwise.

Feb 06, 2019 03:21 AM #390

I feel like they are a play or 2 from blowing this wide open.

Feb 06, 2019 03:21 AM #391

Haven't done squat since Vick went in

Feb 06, 2019 03:21 AM #392

I have a bad feeling that this one's over.

Feb 06, 2019 03:21 AM #393

I know what it is. You have to actually come out if the locker room after halftime... Ya that's it

Feb 06, 2019 03:21 AM #394

Wait a minute. Not over fellas.

Feb 06, 2019 03:22 AM #395

@approxinfinity

Looks like it. Should know at about the under 8 if this is how its going

Feb 06, 2019 03:22 AM #396

Moore has absolutely been better than Vick this game on both ends. The zone helps minimize Charlie's defensive failings.

Feb 06, 2019 03:22 AM #397

We needed to keep Wade on his heels. The guys that were producing are now cold. Now we got a headcase back in the equation in LV.

Feb 06, 2019 03:22 AM #398

wissox said:

We look so bad on offense all of a sudden.

Any coincidence it happened when Vick checked in for Moore, lol?

Feb 06, 2019 03:22 AM #399

It's not over, but we have to play defense, rebound and stop the turnovers.

Feb 06, 2019 03:22 AM #400

Texas Hawk 10 said:

wissox said:

We look so bad on offense all of a sudden.

Any coincidence it happened when Vick checked in for Moore, lol?

Vick's plus/minus is -16 for the record.

Feb 06, 2019 03:22 AM #401

Agbaji was hit.

Feb 06, 2019 03:23 AM #402

argh.

Feb 06, 2019 03:23 AM #403

Where's teh foul?

Feb 06, 2019 03:23 AM #404

Garbage. Oh well. Back to AFH soon.

Feb 06, 2019 03:23 AM #405

Who got blamed for that no foul?

Feb 06, 2019 03:23 AM #406

Answer: On the other end of the court.

Feb 06, 2019 03:23 AM #407

I like those fake fouls

Feb 06, 2019 03:24 AM #408

BShark said:

Texas Hawk 10 said:

wissox said:

We look so bad on offense all of a sudden.

Any coincidence it happened when Vick checked in for Moore, lol?

Vick's plus/minus is -16 for the record.

Shocking!

Feb 06, 2019 03:24 AM #409

BeddieKU23 said:

I like those fake fouls

Meanwhile Dotson keeps getting hacked.

Feb 06, 2019 03:24 AM #410

At least 50% of a refs job is anticipating contact that doesnt happen

Feb 06, 2019 03:24 AM #411

No foul call for Dotson and then a foul for Brown when there wasn't one. Cool.

Feb 06, 2019 03:24 AM #412

5 pts in 7 minutes looool

Feb 06, 2019 03:25 AM #413

vick has a chance to help that +/-

Feb 06, 2019 03:25 AM #414

Hey Vick GO UP STRONG

Feb 06, 2019 03:25 AM #415

Damn.. What I would do to see Vick go EJ on KSU.

Feb 06, 2019 03:25 AM #416

BShark said:

Gotta pull Vick.

Got to he is killing us

Feb 06, 2019 03:25 AM #417

Just seems like we can. Ever hit a big 3. Ochai was wide open.

Feb 06, 2019 03:26 AM #418

In some ways it is amazing it's 4 points with 16 turnovers.

Feb 06, 2019 03:26 AM #419

I despise referees.

Feb 06, 2019 03:26 AM #420

"gentle" thats right Chauncey, tell it like it is "garbage"

Feb 06, 2019 03:26 AM #421

Gentle = not

Feb 06, 2019 03:26 AM #422

Gentle = not

Feb 06, 2019 03:26 AM #423

Gentle = not

Feb 06, 2019 03:26 AM #424

Gentle = not

Feb 06, 2019 03:26 AM #425

ANOTHER DAM TURNOVER

Feb 06, 2019 03:26 AM #426

Pollard wasnt even looking when that ball went out of bounds

Feb 06, 2019 03:26 AM #427

Vick!😡👊

Feb 06, 2019 03:27 AM #428

Agbaji :-/ settle down man.

Feb 06, 2019 03:27 AM #429

WTF

Feb 06, 2019 03:27 AM #430

Embarrassing

Feb 06, 2019 03:27 AM #431

We are flat out stupid

Feb 06, 2019 03:27 AM #432

Freshmen

Feb 06, 2019 03:27 AM #433

I never get it when someone says this is embarrassing.

Feb 06, 2019 03:27 AM #434

Nice Vick

Feb 06, 2019 03:27 AM #435

Gonna be a long day at work tomorrow

Feb 06, 2019 03:27 AM #436

@wissox me either

Feb 06, 2019 03:28 AM #437

They have no issues knocking down big shots

Feb 06, 2019 03:28 AM #438

Wow. Was that a field goal

Feb 06, 2019 03:28 AM #439

Good to see they wanna make up the foul calls for K-State this half lmao

Feb 06, 2019 03:28 AM #440

it is over

Feb 06, 2019 03:28 AM #441

Gee, how did Dedric end up on the floor?

Feb 06, 2019 03:28 AM #442

@DanR its K-State. That is the definition of embarrassing

Feb 06, 2019 03:28 AM #443

thats 14 feet of wasted talent surrounding Bechard on the bench.

Feb 06, 2019 03:29 AM #444

Lol

Feb 06, 2019 03:29 AM #445

WIDE OPEN. HELLO VICK.

Feb 06, 2019 03:29 AM #446

Vick defensive special number 3 zillion.

Feb 06, 2019 03:29 AM #447

nuleafjhawk said:

@DanR its K-State. That is the definition of embarrassing

well there is West Virginia

Feb 06, 2019 03:29 AM #448

Wow, people proclaiming this game is over. Then go to bed. Why watch?

Feb 06, 2019 03:29 AM #449

Oh my god. LOOK AT THE DAMN PLAYER WHEN YOU PASS

Feb 06, 2019 03:29 AM #450

Please get Vick out of there.

Feb 06, 2019 03:29 AM #451

Vick is driving me insane

Feb 06, 2019 03:29 AM #452

Put Vick in so the other team can practice 3 pointers.

Feb 06, 2019 03:29 AM #453

Self - - would you PLEASE GET VICK THE HELL OUT

Feb 06, 2019 03:30 AM #454

SO BAD VICK! SO BAD!

Feb 06, 2019 03:30 AM #455

That's the way. Throw it into the crowd. We play better when the crowd is involved

Feb 06, 2019 03:30 AM #456

Vick offensive special number 3 zillion

Feb 06, 2019 03:30 AM #457

Vick sucks period

Feb 06, 2019 03:30 AM #458

@approxinfinity
LOL

Feb 06, 2019 03:30 AM #459

Please sub Mitch for Vick!

Feb 06, 2019 03:30 AM #460

Just simple stuff is all we need

Feb 06, 2019 03:30 AM #461

hard to play 5-6 on the floor - - K-state 5 -- then VICK

Feb 06, 2019 03:30 AM #462

Oddly, I still enjoy the Phillips 66 ads.

Feb 06, 2019 03:30 AM #463

Vick - spot up shooter at this point...

Feb 06, 2019 03:31 AM #464

@Crimsonorblue22 simple stuff like throw it to your teammate.

Feb 06, 2019 03:31 AM #465

Pine rider

Feb 06, 2019 03:31 AM #466

Please put anybody in for Vick jeez Louise

Feb 06, 2019 03:31 AM #467

@cragarhawk I was going to go with "arborist"

Feb 06, 2019 03:31 AM #468

@jayballer73 the difference is west virginia has had some good teams - ksu is a hundred plus years of mediocrity

Feb 06, 2019 03:31 AM #469

Vick getting rid of the zeros on his line tonight

Feb 06, 2019 03:31 AM #470

Haha

Feb 06, 2019 03:31 AM #471

Bwag said:

Vick - spot up shooter at this point...

doesn't have time to spot up - - much rather throw the ball away

Feb 06, 2019 03:32 AM #472

we because cant even pass to a wide open player

Feb 06, 2019 03:32 AM #473

never thought I would see the day when I would say, Moore for Vick.... please!

Feb 06, 2019 03:32 AM #474

@Bwag

In all the wrong spots. Got to be about his 5th turnover

Feb 06, 2019 03:32 AM #475

Has Grimes been in this half?

Feb 06, 2019 03:32 AM #476

! ↗

Feb 06, 2019 03:32 AM #477

We are 4-14 from 3 and down by 6. Two more makes and we're tied. Plenty of time left.

Feb 06, 2019 03:32 AM #478

bskeet said:

never thought I would see the day when I would say, Moore for Vick.... please!

today - - - is the day

Feb 06, 2019 03:32 AM #479

We have them right where we want them now

Feb 06, 2019 03:32 AM #480

nuleafjhawk said:

@jayballer73 the difference is west virginia has had some good teams - ksu is a hundred plus years of mediocrity

Not really though, KSU has a pretty solid basketball history overall.

Feb 06, 2019 03:32 AM #481

@mayjay

Yeah he started but his effort was about as good as vick

Feb 06, 2019 03:33 AM #482

Plenty of time to get it together.

Feb 06, 2019 03:33 AM #483

Grimes was better than Vick. Everyone's been better than Vick.

Feb 06, 2019 03:33 AM #484

Aargh Vick!!!

My poor three year old looks a little shell shocked...His name is Vic.

Feb 06, 2019 03:33 AM #485

Lawson, Lightfoot, Agabaji, Dotson, Moore.

Feb 06, 2019 03:33 AM #486

BeddieKU23 said:

@Bwag

In all the wrong spots. Got to be about his 5th turnover

box has him with 2 TO's

Feb 06, 2019 03:34 AM #487

Will we get another quality look this half

Feb 06, 2019 03:34 AM #488

@dylans Maybe stop cussing Vick out?

Feb 06, 2019 03:34 AM #489

There's 1

Feb 06, 2019 03:34 AM #490

foul.

Feb 06, 2019 03:34 AM #491

Lack of O rebounding is hurting us too

Feb 06, 2019 03:34 AM #492

And 2

Feb 06, 2019 03:34 AM #493

@Texas-Hawk-10 not against us

Feb 06, 2019 03:34 AM #494

alright Grimes. Glimmers of the player he could be.

Feb 06, 2019 03:34 AM #495

Hello, Grimes

Feb 06, 2019 03:35 AM #496

We have more talent. But they don't know how to play together.

Feb 06, 2019 03:35 AM #497

Charge. Shock.

Feb 06, 2019 03:35 AM #498

WTF

Feb 06, 2019 03:35 AM #499

That's their favorite call

Feb 06, 2019 03:35 AM #500

Wade gets to whack Dedric as expected.

Feb 06, 2019 03:35 AM #501

Its ok Ochai. Worse things. Keep this run going.

Feb 06, 2019 03:35 AM #502

What a crock.

Feb 06, 2019 03:35 AM #503

Ochai has been really bad as well

Feb 06, 2019 03:36 AM #504

Why do KU rookies take 15 to 20 games before they stop running into people?

Feb 06, 2019 03:36 AM #505

bad call...

Feb 06, 2019 03:36 AM #506

Why is Vick back?

Feb 06, 2019 03:36 AM #507

looooool ok refs

Feb 06, 2019 03:36 AM #508

weebles wobble and they fall down

Feb 06, 2019 03:36 AM #509

So many bad charge calls today.

Feb 06, 2019 03:36 AM #510

20 turnovers

Feb 06, 2019 03:37 AM #511

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

So many bad charge calls today.

Gotta make the adjustment to how the refs are calling it.

Feb 06, 2019 03:37 AM #512

At least we'll get a new season record tonight. For turnovers.

Feb 06, 2019 03:37 AM #513

And yet only down by 7

Feb 06, 2019 03:37 AM #514

The charging call arm signal is by far the best thing a ref gets to do, so I kind of understand.

Feb 06, 2019 03:37 AM #515

we need to start falling down

Feb 06, 2019 03:37 AM #516

Our FT defense is keeping us in this one.

Feb 06, 2019 03:37 AM #517

Texas Hawk 10 said:

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

So many bad charge calls today.

Gotta make the adjustment to how the refs are calling it.

Exactly.Ochai needs to not force it.

Feb 06, 2019 03:37 AM #518

good god with the TOs

Feb 06, 2019 03:37 AM #519

Woodrow said:

20 turnovers

Zero toughness and ball control on the road with this team.

Feb 06, 2019 03:37 AM #520

Now 3

Feb 06, 2019 03:37 AM #521

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

So many bad charge calls today.

! ↗

Feb 06, 2019 03:38 AM #522

The game where every flop is a charge

Feb 06, 2019 03:38 AM #523

down 3

Feb 06, 2019 03:38 AM #524

The refs aren't stopping D Lawson.

Feb 06, 2019 03:38 AM #525

Texas Hawk 10 said:

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

So many bad charge calls today.

Gotta make the adjustment to how the refs are calling it.

True. But the refs also need to adjust their heads out of their rectums.

Feb 06, 2019 03:38 AM #526

@dylans Is Marcus Smart is the house?

Feb 06, 2019 03:39 AM #527

Any reason McCormack hasn't played tonight?

Feb 06, 2019 03:39 AM #528

Mawien has nothing for Dedric.

Feb 06, 2019 03:39 AM #529

I think LV must be super sincere when he tells Self he's not gonna suck any more.

Feb 06, 2019 03:39 AM #530

Ugh

Feb 06, 2019 03:39 AM #531

One

Feb 06, 2019 03:39 AM #532

Looks like Dedric is done passing the ball for the night.

Feb 06, 2019 03:39 AM #533

I loathe referees

Feb 06, 2019 03:39 AM #534

Right about when we need a run to start, we shoot ourselves in the foot.

Feb 06, 2019 03:40 AM #535

Grimes do you have any basketball IQ. Could have had a rebound, tried to punch it and then fouls. Typical

Feb 06, 2019 03:40 AM #536

@Texas-Hawk-10 very good question

Feb 06, 2019 03:40 AM #537

wissox said:

I loathe referees

visions of Duke v Wisconsin?

Feb 06, 2019 03:40 AM #538

Wake up guys guys just for 5 minutes

Feb 06, 2019 03:40 AM #539

wissox said:

I loathe referees

visions of Wisconsin v. Duke?

Feb 06, 2019 03:40 AM #540

That was our "stand around, watch DL, don't rebound, and foul for good measure" play

Feb 06, 2019 03:41 AM #541

If we could go ahead and not play like we've never seen a ball before for the last 5 or so min that would be great....

Feb 06, 2019 03:41 AM #542

Time to close out like the 2nd part of first half

Feb 06, 2019 03:42 AM #543

Bwag said:

Time to close out like the 2nd part of first half

But not sure we have the mental toughness to do so...but one can hope

Feb 06, 2019 03:42 AM #544

@Bwag Thanks for the reminder..

Feb 06, 2019 03:43 AM #545

Man, the choice tonight--watch our team acting like it can't play, or watch a whole chamber of politicians who can't govern.

Feb 06, 2019 03:43 AM #546

That play will be the difference. Down 3 after getting it down to 1 and then give them free shots on a dumb play. Could have had possession

Feb 06, 2019 03:43 AM #547

Yea closing games hasn’t exactly been our forte this year. But maybe this time...

Feb 06, 2019 03:43 AM #548

7-3 FT count this half and Dedric has been fouled about 10 times this half.

Feb 06, 2019 03:43 AM #549

F--k Bruce Weber.

Feb 06, 2019 03:43 AM #550

Nice sign ! 6 months till football. Cuz we suck at basketball. Oh wait - we suck at football too!

Feb 06, 2019 03:44 AM #551

Been beating on Dedric all game.

Feb 06, 2019 03:44 AM #552

That's their game plan.

Feb 06, 2019 03:44 AM #553

What happened there

Feb 06, 2019 03:44 AM #554

Dedrick got onionized, I think.

Feb 06, 2019 03:44 AM #555

Gee, I don't know why Dedric keeps falling.

Feb 06, 2019 03:44 AM #556

Knee to knee

Feb 06, 2019 03:44 AM #557

Grab the ball, Mitch

Feb 06, 2019 03:44 AM #558

We are just throwing up complete shit

Feb 06, 2019 03:44 AM #559

@BeddieKU23

Feb 06, 2019 03:45 AM #560

DanR said:

Grab the ball, Mitch

Career problems

Feb 06, 2019 03:45 AM #561

The refs don't see anything, @wissox

Feb 06, 2019 03:45 AM #562

Catch and Shoot. Catch and Shoot.

Feb 06, 2019 03:45 AM #563

Sweet vick

Feb 06, 2019 03:45 AM #564

maximize that 2

Feb 06, 2019 03:45 AM #565

Mitch need a lightfoot spark

Feb 06, 2019 03:45 AM #566

bskeet said:

maximize that 2

lol

Feb 06, 2019 03:45 AM #567

that was off Wade's leg.

Feb 06, 2019 03:45 AM #568

Dammit

Feb 06, 2019 03:46 AM #569

Vick - spot up shooter

Feb 06, 2019 03:46 AM #570

Gotta box out

Feb 06, 2019 03:46 AM #571

bskeet said:

The refs don't see anything, @wissox

And I see everything.

9-3 on foul count now.

Feb 06, 2019 03:46 AM #572

bskeet said:

that was off Wade's leg.

wondered that too.

Feb 06, 2019 03:46 AM #573

Unbelievable. Grab a board someone.

Feb 06, 2019 03:46 AM #574

box out and board ... or be water boarded at practice this week

Feb 06, 2019 03:47 AM #575

Come on Dedric, pass it to the wing.

Feb 06, 2019 03:47 AM #576

What happened to Dedric?

Feb 06, 2019 03:47 AM #577

Blueprint to beat Dedric, beat the crap out of him.

Feb 06, 2019 03:47 AM #578

Woodrow said:

Unbelievable. Grab a board someone.

nah

Feb 06, 2019 03:48 AM #579

we sure don't get those calls...except for Dotson...he does

Feb 06, 2019 03:48 AM #580

phantom foul on grimes 10-3 foul count. Really hard to win on the road with officiating like this.

Feb 06, 2019 03:48 AM #581

Does anyone EVER remember a KU team that has played so sloppy taking care of the ball EVER

Feb 06, 2019 03:48 AM #582

Ok Vick. Ok.

Feb 06, 2019 03:48 AM #583

fouls starting to get onesided here

Feb 06, 2019 03:48 AM #584

Vick seems fired up

Feb 06, 2019 03:48 AM #585

Open Letter to all the B12 Teams: Enjoy this year. It's not the kind of KU team you see except once every 15-20 years.

Feb 06, 2019 03:48 AM #586

Lucky 3 there. Good D.

Feb 06, 2019 03:48 AM #587

Is there any chance we could get a stop or two? Guess not....

Feb 06, 2019 03:49 AM #588

2 pt game...lets get it

Feb 06, 2019 03:49 AM #589

Not good, Grimes.

Feb 06, 2019 03:49 AM #590

What shot was that grimes?

Feb 06, 2019 03:49 AM #591

I hate diarra

Feb 06, 2019 03:49 AM #592

@jayballer73 team? No. Tyshawn? Yes.

Feb 06, 2019 03:49 AM #593

lucky shot

Feb 06, 2019 03:49 AM #594

Game. Blouses.

Feb 06, 2019 03:49 AM #595

LOL @ Grimes

Feb 06, 2019 03:49 AM #596

Over

Feb 06, 2019 03:49 AM #597

Ya. Let's get it to one possession and then have an epileptic seisure on the floor

Feb 06, 2019 03:49 AM #598

@Crimsonorblue22 He got confused by the pregame rebounding drill.

Feb 06, 2019 03:50 AM #599

that's all folks

Feb 06, 2019 03:50 AM #600

back to our drive into heart of defense and throw up a prayer...damn folks, run an offense

Feb 06, 2019 03:50 AM #601

bskeet said:

Open Letter to all the B12 Teams: Enjoy this year. It's not the kind of KU team you seen except once every 15-20 years.

This is the 4th or 5th team like this in the past 15 years. 2005-06, 2008-09, 2013-14, and 2014-15.

Feb 06, 2019 03:50 AM #602

Maybe the NCAA should suspend another player on our team. About the only way they play with passion at this point

Feb 06, 2019 03:50 AM #603

@Texas-Hawk-10 I don't think any were like this.

Feb 06, 2019 03:51 AM #604

KState has been granted foul-immunity for the last 10 minutes of the game.

Feb 06, 2019 03:51 AM #605

BeddieKU23 said:

Maybe the NCAA should suspend another player on our team. About the only way they play with passion at this point

I vote LV off the island.

Feb 06, 2019 03:51 AM #606

Last couple minutes could be interesting

Feb 06, 2019 03:51 AM #607

Last 6 fouls have been called against us. They haven't called one in 10 minutes against them.

Feb 06, 2019 03:51 AM #608

When were we lower than a #6 seed? That's where this team is.

Feb 06, 2019 03:51 AM #609

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

KState has been granted foul-immunity for the last 10 minutes of the game.

Yep, they can do w/e they want on defense. Not that KU is executing well but still.

Feb 06, 2019 03:51 AM #610

On the road coming into this game KU has been called for 20 more fouls then the other team so it's no longer a coincidence we just mug for a living

Feb 06, 2019 03:51 AM #611

TWENTY ONE possessions - where we couldn't even attempt a shot - -because of carelessness - -TWENT ONE possessions we have given them to get free points at our expense

Feb 06, 2019 03:52 AM #612

BeddieKU23 said:

Over

OVER

Feb 06, 2019 03:52 AM #613

Can anyone on KU hit a big 3

Feb 06, 2019 03:52 AM #614

@bskeet football season Will be here soon

Feb 06, 2019 03:52 AM #615

Woodrow said:

Can anyone on KU hit a big 3

Nope

Feb 06, 2019 03:52 AM #616

lets all stand around and watch the shot go up.

Feb 06, 2019 03:53 AM #617

I love it when our game plan is for Vick to jack shit for the final 3.5 min

Feb 06, 2019 03:53 AM #618

@jayballer73 Why are you watching? YOu said it was over ten minutes ago.

Feb 06, 2019 03:53 AM #619

Lawson can’t guard Wade

Feb 06, 2019 03:53 AM #620

Dedric doesn't even step when he goes

Feb 06, 2019 03:53 AM #621

bskeet said:

@Texas-Hawk-10 I don't think any were like this.

Yes they were, all very young teams that struggled big time at different points in the season. 2005-06 team was 3-4 at one point, 2013-14 lost 10 games and 2014-15 lost 9 games. 2008-09 only one with an experienced guard, but next to no experience in the post.

Feb 06, 2019 03:53 AM #622

Not over guys

Feb 06, 2019 03:53 AM #623

Woodrow said:

Lawson can’t guard Wade

He's usually not so overmatched athletically.

Feb 06, 2019 03:53 AM #624

Lol

Feb 06, 2019 03:53 AM #625

That makes 4 on Dedric, Dotson, and Grimes. Two of those make me nervous.

Feb 06, 2019 03:54 AM #626

Dedric is done.

Feb 06, 2019 03:54 AM #627

OMG

Feb 06, 2019 03:54 AM #628

Hell next time just step across half court and throw it up Moore

Feb 06, 2019 03:54 AM #629

@DanR Feel free to reconsider

Feb 06, 2019 03:54 AM #630

@DanR Feel free to reconsider

Feb 06, 2019 03:54 AM #631

@drgnslayr 's wife has a name for players like this. It starts with P and rhymes with wussies

Feb 06, 2019 03:55 AM #632

Wow stupid shots

Feb 06, 2019 03:55 AM #633

Crowd will get nervous and the kitties will get tight.

Feb 06, 2019 03:55 AM #634

cragarhawk said:

Hell next time just step across half court and throw it up Moore

Exactly

Feb 06, 2019 03:55 AM #635

Chauncey hasn't noticed 11:30 of clock time has elapsed since last KSU foul but complains we committed one. He probably hates us too because he lost to us so often.

Feb 06, 2019 03:56 AM #636

Look , I know if Chucky Moore can show up like Sir Charles tonight, anyone can.. I'm trying to not say something absolute about LV atm. Just having a very hard time getting excited about any positives.

Feb 06, 2019 03:56 AM #637

@DanR and we'll miss shots, throw the ball away and foul unnecessarily

Feb 06, 2019 03:56 AM #638

12 fouls to 3 this half ain't cool. But if we actually take care of the ball we are up 8

Feb 06, 2019 03:56 AM #639

zone now out of break? or triangle and 2 for a possession or two to confuse?

Feb 06, 2019 03:57 AM #640

You gotta look really hard for the positive... And the silver lining is...

I'm lookin...

Feb 06, 2019 03:57 AM #641

cragarhawk said:

You gotta look really hard for the positive... And the silver lining is...

I'm lookin...

No one got hurt. Yet.

Feb 06, 2019 03:57 AM #642

Wide open set shot for a slow unathletic dude that can only shoot set shots. Dedric is done.

Feb 06, 2019 03:58 AM #643

And that'll do it

Feb 06, 2019 03:58 AM #644

KSU avg 14.4 fouls at home Ku avg 18 fouls on the road. Tonight’s game seems like a bit of an outlier.

Feb 06, 2019 03:58 AM #645

just pass to whoever is being covered by Vick

Feb 06, 2019 03:58 AM #646

Vick drop off special D.

Feb 06, 2019 03:58 AM #647

Well, had a real chance before the d went braindead and gave KSU an open corner 3.

Feb 06, 2019 03:59 AM #648

KState with fouls to give thanks to 3 guys who want KSU to win.

Feb 06, 2019 03:59 AM #649

BULLS___T

Feb 06, 2019 04:00 AM #650

Can’t even throw it in. Pathetic

Feb 06, 2019 04:00 AM #651

Special trip and strip D by KSU.

Feb 06, 2019 04:00 AM #652

Guys are too young

Feb 06, 2019 04:00 AM #653

I know Vick gets a ton of crap for his defense, but the Sneed 3 was good offense. Vick had 2 guys in his zone and he tried to stop the ball first which is what you're supposed to do.

Feb 06, 2019 04:00 AM #654

mayjay said:

Special trip and strip D by KSU.

If that non-call doesn't tell one all they need to know about the refs in this game...

Feb 06, 2019 04:00 AM #655

Strips are a lot easier when you can trip the guy your are stealing from.

Feb 06, 2019 04:01 AM #656

That looks like a deep bench over there.

Feb 06, 2019 04:01 AM #657

2md half officiating was trash.

Feb 06, 2019 04:01 AM #658

10 point loss.

Feb 06, 2019 04:01 AM #659

Breaks my heart to see Silvio having to comfort DD. Guy has class.

Feb 06, 2019 04:01 AM #660

Can you imagine KSU fans if a KU player dunked like that to close out a game against them? lol

Feb 06, 2019 04:01 AM #661

wow, foul discrepancy is lopsided and this team is done

Feb 06, 2019 04:01 AM #662

@Texas-Hawk-10 Horrible.

Feb 06, 2019 04:01 AM #663

making KSU look great in the new system.

Feb 06, 2019 04:01 AM #664

Night y'all

Feb 06, 2019 04:02 AM #665

NOW VEE DANZ!

Feb 06, 2019 04:02 AM #666

R the saying f ku?

Feb 06, 2019 04:02 AM #667

Silo rave after the game! wooooooo

Feb 06, 2019 04:02 AM #668

Classiest fans

Feb 06, 2019 04:02 AM #669

21-14 PF discrepancy

Feb 06, 2019 04:02 AM #670

Welp this sucks

Feb 06, 2019 04:02 AM #671

I'm still hoping for some sort of miracle to shut the fans up

Feb 06, 2019 04:02 AM #672

BShark said:

Can you imagine KSU fans if a KU player dunked like that to close out a game against them? lol

Probably think it's a dick move, lol!

Feb 06, 2019 04:02 AM #673

@Crimsonandblue12 I wouldn't expect anything more.

Feb 06, 2019 04:02 AM #674

Just can't win on the road to save their lives

Feb 06, 2019 04:03 AM #675

I think we're not very good at basketball

Feb 06, 2019 04:03 AM #676

Crimsonorblue22 said:

R the saying f ku?

Been doing that all night.

Feb 06, 2019 04:03 AM #677

Embarrassing

Feb 06, 2019 04:03 AM #678

Crimsonorblue22 said:

R the saying f ku?

Are you surprised?

Feb 06, 2019 04:03 AM #679

This really might have been an exciting finish, but there's no chance when you combine bad offense and bad officiating.

Feb 06, 2019 04:03 AM #680

Bwag said:

21-14 PF discrepancy

And first half was equal or very close to it.

Feb 06, 2019 04:03 AM #681

Dunk didn't bother me at all with a minute left and 7 pt lead.

Feb 06, 2019 04:04 AM #682

I've never known a team to fall completely apart during the last 2-3 mins of a ball game.

Feb 06, 2019 04:04 AM #683

@Texas-Hawk-10 I heard it earlier

Feb 06, 2019 04:04 AM #684

KSU was physically and mentally tougher. Neither are surprising.

Feb 06, 2019 04:04 AM #685

This team has NO fight at all

Feb 06, 2019 04:04 AM #686

If we just took care of the damn ball

Feb 06, 2019 04:04 AM #687

Hell, I don't even mind Bruce and this particular group of players, but the fans are pretty trashy.

Feb 06, 2019 04:04 AM #688

If LV never enters the game, we win.

Feb 06, 2019 04:04 AM #689

@Woodrow Dean Wade fully back makes them dangerous.

Feb 06, 2019 04:04 AM #690

Remember when we were gonna be crazy good and deep this year. Those were the days

Feb 06, 2019 04:04 AM #691

@approxinfinity Sad but true.

Feb 06, 2019 04:05 AM #692

This team just keeps losing in the same way. They are not getting better.

Feb 06, 2019 04:05 AM #693

Geez

Feb 06, 2019 04:05 AM #694

Well. Good game, boys.

Feb 06, 2019 04:06 AM #695

mayjay said:

@Woodrow Dean Wade fully back makes them dangerous.

I'm not scared of Wade. He's a set shooter with size. Looked awful first half.

Feb 06, 2019 04:06 AM #696

@cragarhawk Too deep, if I recall! How to find enough minutes for the players?

Now, it is how to find the players for the minutes!

Feb 06, 2019 04:06 AM #697

two possession game

Feb 06, 2019 04:06 AM #698

Idk why ppl keep talking about the streak ending this year. When it likely already did last year. Shut up about it already.

Feb 06, 2019 04:06 AM #699

This game may have just decided the B12 champion

Feb 06, 2019 04:06 AM #700

God. We will hear the question "Is this the year" for the next three weeks when its frickin obvious.

Feb 06, 2019 04:07 AM #701

@bskeet except its not... Lol. Last year was the year once they vacate all the shit

Feb 06, 2019 04:07 AM #702

Garrett Luinstra, wow

Feb 06, 2019 04:07 AM #703

Okay, now THAT dunk I can agree is tacky!

Feb 06, 2019 04:07 AM #704

Classy dunk with less than 1 second.

Feb 06, 2019 04:07 AM #705

Fine them

Feb 06, 2019 04:07 AM #706

storm the court LOL.

Feb 06, 2019 04:07 AM #707

TV is now off.

Feb 06, 2019 04:08 AM #708

Storm the court you f--ckers!!! Storm it!!! Ya!!!

Feb 06, 2019 04:08 AM #709

classy

Feb 06, 2019 04:08 AM #710

Did Van Gundy go to college?

Feb 06, 2019 04:08 AM #711

Imagine being in first place and rushing the court.

Feb 06, 2019 04:08 AM #712

How many schools charge the court when they beat a team trailing them?

Feb 06, 2019 04:08 AM #713

So Barry Brown with the dick move to end the game?

Feb 06, 2019 04:09 AM #714

mayjay said:

How many schools charge the court when they beat a team trailing them?

GMTA

Feb 06, 2019 04:09 AM #715

@mayjay good point!

Desperate!

Feb 06, 2019 04:09 AM #716

Let the fools have their tartar sauce.

Feb 06, 2019 04:09 AM #717

Watch the delivery rooms in 9 months in Manhattan.

Feb 06, 2019 04:09 AM #718

Lmao

Feb 06, 2019 04:10 AM #719

@bskeet Bovine gestation is 9 months?

Feb 06, 2019 04:10 AM #720

@Texas-Hawk-10 I thought it was diarrhea

Feb 06, 2019 04:10 AM #721

Wellp. How much more motivation do we need when we play them on the 25th?

Feb 06, 2019 04:10 AM #722

What usually happens is KState falls apart after the thrill of beating KU at home, so we'll see how their season goes from here on out.

Feb 06, 2019 04:10 AM #723

I'll be there, and I'll be loud!

Feb 06, 2019 04:10 AM #724

At least 10 less turnovers more motivation

Feb 06, 2019 04:11 AM #725

BShark said:

Imagine being in first place and rushing the court.

We are talking K- State lmao. - -I think the MOST idiotic thing I seen all night was a sign that said we own this state - -roflmmfao. - - ew have won 25-the last 31 and they own the state? - - get the F off me lmao

Feb 06, 2019 04:11 AM #726

Let's hope everyone else has 5-6 shitty games

Feb 06, 2019 04:12 AM #727

How the hell am I gonna get tickets and flights to Zimbabwe for the first round game this year....

Feb 06, 2019 04:12 AM #728

I have tix to the OU game, ugh

Feb 06, 2019 04:13 AM #729

Pooooooooop

Feb 06, 2019 04:13 AM #730

There were two shows on TV where I could witness a reality distortion field. I picked this one.

Feb 06, 2019 04:13 AM #731

@cragarhawk The good news if we do get sent to Zimbabwe, Silvio might find an Afican court to get an injunction allowing him to play.

Feb 06, 2019 04:13 AM #732

Do you think Bill Walton is the Lakers' weed dealer?

Feb 06, 2019 04:14 AM #733

@mayjay silver linings all over the place!

Feb 06, 2019 04:14 AM #734

@approxinfinity He could never bear to part with enough to be an effective dealer.

Feb 06, 2019 04:15 AM #735

We let up 74 points to the worst offense in the B12 mainly because turnovers.

Feb 06, 2019 04:16 AM #736

mayjay said:

@approxinfinity He could never bear to part with enough to be an effective dealer.

If I lived in LA, was a lottery pick that produced for the team, and had to deal with an imposter megalomaniac who was trying to get me traded, I'd be blazed too.

Feb 06, 2019 04:16 AM #737

bskeet said:

Watch the delivery rooms in 9 months in Manhattan.

!alt text ↗

Feb 06, 2019 04:16 AM #738

with even the bad calls and everything else - - until this Fricken team can find somebody that can take care of the dam ball it won't mater. - -there is NO excuse for a D-1 team to constantly have such sloppy ball handling - -just un-excusable ball handling. - -This team has to many terrible passers - - ball handlers - -just insane passes - -who go brain dead. - -this is for sure a ONE game team in the Tourney - -there is no way this team makes it out of the 1st round

On top of that -- if this regular season doesn't come to an end quick - -it will be the 1st time in over twenty plus years we finish out of the top 25 = = Period - -let that sink in for awhile - - terrible

Feb 06, 2019 04:17 AM #739

@BShark lol :)

Feb 06, 2019 04:18 AM #740

Need a Baylor loss tomorrow and Baylor win Saturday and we are right back in it. We play both teams at home again no need to panic yet.

Feb 06, 2019 04:18 AM #741

The over was the winning bet at 131.5. I was right on my guess for KUs 67 points. I just thought KSU would have 65 to make it interesting.

Feb 06, 2019 04:19 AM #742

That unforced Vick no look pass into the stands is burned into my retinas.

Feb 06, 2019 04:20 AM #743

g'night from SC, y'all. 77 and sunny here tomorrow. Hope the sun rises nicely for you wherever you may be. After all, it is just a game.

A @$^##%##% frustrating game.

Feb 06, 2019 04:20 AM #744

@approxinfinity Vick was baaad and not in a good way. Throw Grimes in there as well.

Feb 06, 2019 04:20 AM #745

mayjay said:

g'night from SC, y'all. 77 and sunny here tomorrow. Hope the sun rises nicely for you wherever you may be. After all, it is just a game.

A @$^##%##% frustrating game.

later man!

Feb 06, 2019 04:20 AM #746

Ochai and Grimes killed us with missed shots and TOs. Dotson had his but he touches the ball every trip.

Feb 06, 2019 04:22 AM #747

Grimes and Ochai were bad. But Vick was the killer. I'd rather have had a mix of Charlie, KJ and Grimes in there instead of Vick. It would have been 4.5 on 5 instead of 4 on 6.

Feb 06, 2019 04:24 AM #748

We were basically down 2 starters friends and showed our youth at the guard spots. Let's take out some anger on OSU Saturday.

Feb 06, 2019 04:24 AM #749

Hahaha Vick was so bad on defense the refs couldn’t even call a foul on him.

Feb 06, 2019 04:25 AM #750

Heck even Mr no defense Grimes had 4 fouls. Including a charge (or two?) at least he moved his feet occasionally.

Feb 06, 2019 04:26 AM #751

It's pick OUR poison with Vick, Grimes, and Moore. One or more always kills us.

Feb 06, 2019 04:28 AM #752

@bigbad Makes Dok’s loss more glaring having to play so many subpar guards.

Feb 06, 2019 04:28 AM #753

BigBad said:

It's pick OUR poison with Vick, Grimes, and Moore. One or more always kills us.

When one of them plays well you gotta roll with that one, not switch it up. Only one of the 3 might be remotely functional, so if it ain't broke...

Feb 06, 2019 04:29 AM #754

@approxinfinity What happened to Moore in the second half? Disappeared to the bench it seemed

Feb 06, 2019 04:30 AM #755

dylans said:

@approxinfinity What happened to Moore in the second half? Disappeared to the bench it seemed

Yeah, concerning. I really hope we see that version of Charles again.

Feb 06, 2019 04:30 AM #756

Moore and Mitch were the only players that were good tonight. Devon was OK, but had too many turnovers and forced shots.

Feb 06, 2019 04:31 AM #757

@Woodrow Freshmen point guards are tough to watch especially after the last couple years.

Feb 06, 2019 04:31 AM #758

dylans said:

@approxinfinity What happened to Moore in the second half? Disappeared to the bench it seemed

Better question is what happened to Mitch. Couldn't even get off the bench 2nd half deposited his 1st half.

Feb 06, 2019 04:33 AM #759

dylans said:

@Woodrow Freshmen point guards are tough to watch especially after the last couple years.

Hey, I've been thrilled with Dotson, all in all. Kid played tough tonight, it just wasn't his best game.

Not Frank and Devonte sure. But damn good for a freshman.

Feb 06, 2019 04:33 AM #760

Woodrow said:

Moore and Mitch were the only players that were good tonight. Devon was OK, but had too many turnovers and forced shots.

I think Dotson is doing just enough to stick around in college.

I've talked about processing Moore but games like tonight give me some pause. KJ has gotta go if Dedric does though.

Too many Self doghouse players on this team.

I think Vick graduating will be major addition by subtraction.

Feb 06, 2019 04:33 AM #761

@approxinfinity Dotson is great. Turnovers are not.

Feb 06, 2019 04:35 AM #762

Man there were some silly charges in that one.

Feb 06, 2019 04:35 AM #763

Dedric tonight showed why he has ZERO NBA ability. He will see guys Wade's size with more speed every possession in the NBA. He isnt capable of getting a shot off against that. I bet he is back next year.

Feb 06, 2019 04:36 AM #764

Dotson just needs to learn when to attack and when to back it out. He is in Attack mode all the time and it leads to turnovers and forced shots.

Feb 06, 2019 04:36 AM #765

BigBad said:

Dedric tonight showed why he has ZERO NBA ability. He will see guys Wade's size with more speed every possession in the NBA. He isnt capable of getting a shot off against that. I bet he is back next year.

There are other places to make good money playing basketball professionally.

Feb 06, 2019 04:37 AM #766

@approxinfinity In all fairness I did say freshman vs Sr and I stand by it. No comparison. Sr Graham or Sr Mason would pretty much single handedly destroy this team.

Freshman to freshman comp Dotson is better.

Feb 06, 2019 04:37 AM #767

Vick has gotta be consuming all of Self's brainpower right now. I wish he didn't have to think about Vick and could focus on stuff like Dedric rolling over and sucking when getting muscled around, and Dotson's turnovers, and Agbaji's jitters, and Grimes uselessness.

I think he's working on Grimes, little by little, but for the other guys, since things are going mostly right they might be getting ignored, when you have a SENIOR DUMPSTER FIRE FEATHERS-FOR-BRAINS MOBILE CLOWN SHOW THROWING UNFORCED PASSES INTO THE STANDS

So mad.

Feb 06, 2019 04:38 AM #768

@truehawk93 sell them

Feb 06, 2019 04:38 AM #769

First few games Vick was amazing. Now we see the don’t want him to come back Vick. Bipolar play

Feb 06, 2019 04:39 AM #770

@kjayhawks some were charges

Feb 06, 2019 04:39 AM #771

@Woodrow And that's fine with me. I don't really want him back any way. I'd be fine flushing everyone except Dotson, Agbaji, and Mitch. Those three actually go hard all the time.

Feb 06, 2019 04:40 AM #772

@mayjay ice here

Feb 06, 2019 04:41 AM #773

I came back. Svi traded to Pistons today.

Feb 06, 2019 04:41 AM #774

Really?

Feb 06, 2019 04:41 AM #775

Woodrow said:

BigBad said:

Dedric tonight showed why he has ZERO NBA ability. He will see guys Wade's size with more speed every possession in the NBA. He isnt capable of getting a shot off against that. I bet he is back next year.

There are other places to make good money playing basketball professionally.

This is what I suspect will happen with Dedric. Though I'd take him back in a second if KU can't land Hurt or Precious.

Feb 06, 2019 04:42 AM #776

dylans said:

First few games Vick was amazing. Now we see the don’t want him to come back Vick. Bipolar play

He never played d and just was on a hot streak that you had to know wasn't going to last.

Feb 06, 2019 04:43 AM #777

Actually on Wikipedia already! Traded with a 2nd rd choice for Reggie Bullock. Says the Pistons are wanting to develop young talent, so he should play more.

Feb 06, 2019 04:43 AM #778

mayjay said:

I came back. Svi traded to Pistons today.

So they have him and the American version Luke Kennard?

Feb 06, 2019 04:44 AM #779

@BigBad Dunno. I haven't followed the Pistons since Marcus was there for a few games, I think.

Feb 06, 2019 04:44 AM #780

@mayjay heard he was traded, didn't know where.

Feb 06, 2019 04:44 AM #781

Gotta guard the corners better (Vick). Obviously Lawson can’t dribble through a quick team like K-State. Honestly, I think we win this game with Garrett. That way we get less turnovers, a more rested Dotson, and more assists. Guard play in defense was just not disciplined enough.

Feb 06, 2019 04:46 AM #782

Jeff gueldner holding zero back on Vick

Feb 06, 2019 04:46 AM #783

betterfireE said:

Gotta guard the corners better (Vick). Obviously Lawson can’t dribble through a quick team like K-State. Honestly, I think we win this game with Garrett. That way we get less turnovers, a more rested Dotson, and more assists. Guard play in defense was just not disciplined enough.

Good point re Garrett.

Feb 06, 2019 04:59 AM #784

Would this team be better off in the long run had Vick not returned ?

Feb 06, 2019 05:01 AM #785

@Blown i guess it depends on who would have gotten his scholarship

Feb 06, 2019 05:02 AM #786

@Blown Doubtful with how Grimes, KJ and Ochai played especially in the second half. Its really disturbing to see our lone Senior play like that in a rivalry game.

Feb 06, 2019 05:12 AM #787

Vick must have done something on the bench.

Feb 06, 2019 05:13 AM #788

Looking at the boxscore its really on on the TOs, shot better and out rebounded them.

Feb 06, 2019 05:15 AM #789

Self on benching Lagerald and if it was related to production: "There was other reasons why."

Feb 06, 2019 05:24 AM #790

@Crimsonorblue22 The biggest issue with this team is that there are not any upperclassmen spreading the culture. Self put Devonte on the phone for the Tech game pregame hype. Vick is our lone senior and he has had effort issues since day one. Not a great example for the young guys to follow.

Feb 06, 2019 05:26 AM #791

Quentin Grimes: 2 baskets, 1 rebound, 0 assists, 0 steals, 5 turnovers, 4 fouls.

Feb 06, 2019 05:37 AM #792

It wouldn't surprise me at this point if Vick just up and leaves the team.

Feb 06, 2019 05:51 AM #793

I have no doubt that we would be better off without Vick, had we recruited a top 40 shooter. We would have lost a couple more preconference games but we would have won today. And we wouldn't have an idiot hothead hamming it up after made baskets instead of getting back to play d, and making no look passes to the 5th row with a road win within reach.

Mindnumbingly stupid. Done with Vick.

Feb 06, 2019 05:56 AM #794

I think I'm getting more angry by the minute, KSU has completely owned us in most sports this year. Absolutely unacceptable.

Feb 06, 2019 06:39 AM #795

Son of a sheep lover...this team. SO many turnovers. Jeebus.
I’d say that was pretty much the game.
The harsh realization is that we have nearly zero ballhandlers. Even Dotson struggles when pressed. Grimes is kinda comical he’s so bad. How that guy even got a scholarship at a major program...hmmm. Hoping he stays and shows massive improvement next year.

On the bright side, Our defense was impressive for awhile. Albeit against a previously offensively challenged K-State team. Zone! Where’d that come from? Self is an enigma this year. Why go away from the plan/players that were keeping us in the game? Mitch, Charlie, etc.

K State once again game planned Vick out of the game. Self needs to do a better job of getting his guys in position to score.

Vick was benched the second I started screaming at the TV for his complete lack of effort or give a shit on D. I’m assuming that’s why. Anybody know otherwise?

The top moment of the game? When Mitch and Charlie bonked heads in the lane. Sums it up nicely.

Feb 06, 2019 12:20 PM #796

@mayjay That's a good spot for him. He'll carve out a larger role in Detroit.

Feb 06, 2019 01:01 PM #797

@jayhawkcsg You should yell at the TV earlier.

Feb 06, 2019 01:03 PM #798

kjayhawks said:

We were basically down 2 starters friends and showed our youth at the guard spots. Let's take out some anger on OSU Saturday.

There is also a major bone to pick with OSU after their sweep last year, first in the HCBS era.

Feb 06, 2019 01:25 PM #799

Well if what I heard was right as I didn't bother to watch the very end for just the reason I heard took place - -and that is that their so called fans rushed the floor and acted like idiots - -If that is the case - - - - -

Then in reality they are making themselves look really bad - - -even more so then our play. Cause as I'm sure we have all heard that when fans storm their court like that - -it detracts from what their team did ON the floor - -it's like dis respecting your own guys , saying that they didn't expect to win the game. - - It's pretty classless ,people could and have been hurt. - -You remember when Jamari showed great restraint ? - and THAT was at K-Straight -- I mean come on act like you belong - - act like you actually feel like you felt you could very easily win the game - -. - -this is just showing your ignorance. your taking away from what your team accomplished.

I thought the conference established fines for when league teams fans did this - -because of what K-Straight did the LAST TIME. RIGHT?

let me ask you - - how many times have you seen KU storm the court after winning a big game? - - -I mean obviously we sure the hell not going to storm the floor against league opponents - -I mean we beat their as so often - - -BUT how many times have you seen KU storm the court after we beat the likes of Say - - Kentucky ? - - - -N Carolina ? - - - -Michigan State ? -- - Duke ? - -have you seen us storm the floor after we beat one of them ? - -the answer is a resounding - - NO - - - - why ? - - Why don't we ? -- - -the answer is simple - -because we have shown we belong - -we belong on the floor with these elite teams - I mean come on you fricken idiots - - so some class - - -some respect - -to us - - hell show it to your own players - - - - -Act like you belong -I'm sure it would be appreciated by ALL

Feb 06, 2019 02:53 PM #800

Another gem of a game from Grimes. He hit two 3's. One of those was 10 feet long and banked in off the glass at 100 mph. He had five turnovers. He had four fouls. He had 1 rebound.

How was this kid the #8 recruit in the country and was a lottery pick on every board before the season started?

When does Bill put him on the bench? We have seen it before where Bill puts high ranked stars into the deep freeze. Why not Grimes? Not judging. Honestly asking. What is going on here?

Feb 06, 2019 03:01 PM #801

@joeloveshawks Its tough to see why Self would't start Garrett over him once healthy. He's had his time and hasn't made the best of it. Maybe he would be better off the bench.

Feb 06, 2019 03:03 PM #802

@joeloveshawks

Look at the other options. Optics play a part here. Self cant afford to sit a highly decorated freshman for recruiting purposes. This isnt the oubre years anymore, these kids notice. I'm not saying that's the main reason as his defensive effort is appalling to watch which should piss him off enough to consider other options. I think Grimes is the least of his issues though, Vick again showed why he is not mentally capable of being a teammate and mentor

Feb 06, 2019 03:04 PM #803

@joeloveshawks Bill read boards past and is letting Grimes play through his mistakes, you don’t want to shatter his confidence, ya know? Lol

Seriously, I just think Self has too few options on what was supposed to be a deep team. You’ve got to play Vick, or Moore, or Grimes, or KJ, or Mitch. Most games Grimes just disappears. You usually know when the other guys are in. Our McDonald’s AA Center can’t get off the bench even with the two guys ahead of him on the depth chart out for the year. This is not the team America expected last summer.

No leadership, no chemistry, not good...yet I still hold hope this squad will galvanize. It may be losing the streak on the court (not in the court) will motivate the fantastic fresman core to be dominate as Sophomores (and Juniors if I may be greedy). Heck it may be they figure it out after this loss, but it looked all to familiar for me think a turnaround is that eminent.

Feb 06, 2019 03:30 PM #804

It really drives me nuts that Weber is allowed to be so far on the floor, hope one of these days someone flattens him.

Feb 06, 2019 04:00 PM #805

Self hasnt changed with regarding Grimes, he just doesnt have many options. Vick(brain dead), Grimes(Everything), Garrett(cant shoot at ALL), Moore(cant play d or finish at the rim), and Agbaji(young dumb mistakes) all have issues.

Feb 06, 2019 04:19 PM #806

I think Vick might be attitude

Feb 06, 2019 04:28 PM #807

I thought we played excellent for a nice stretch. Mainly after Vick and Q were pulled. I liked the way we fought back to make it a game. This loss doesn't bother me as much as the other ones. A young team playing an E8 team on the road. Their game of the year. Little brother's break through game. We'll be lower seeded this year, so no one will expect much from us in the tournament. So, maybe we put together a nice little tournament run, and surprise ourselves.

Feb 06, 2019 04:41 PM #808

@Crimsonorblue22 Maybe its onus for thinking Vick would be a new man this season. Same old Vick, can be great but only chooses to be 30% of the time.

Feb 06, 2019 05:32 PM #809

@KUSTEVE

We gained the lead when Kansas St went over 7 minutes without a field goal. We looked better then the reality of the situation. Once st woke up in the 2nd half there was no hope. That Grimes play where he attempted to bat the ball out instead of grabbing the rebound right in front of his face then fouling was imo the difference in the game. It was a one possession game and everything spiraled from there like brain dead Vick playing 1 on 5.

Feb 06, 2019 05:45 PM #810

After I saw wade easily take Lawson to the goal more than once, it was over. Dedric can't bend his knees, or slide his feet. I know he's a 4, but so is wade. I wish he would be tougher! He's been w/Hudy 2 years, I expect more out of him. I know he gets fouled, but he seems so weak. I know he's our go to guy and I love the guy, I just can't understand why he's not better, tougher. I thought we looked like a jv. team against a varsity team. I give d dot a pass. Thought we should've stayed in the zone? Corner 3's😡 If we don't value the ball like that, more losses.

Feb 06, 2019 05:49 PM #811

@Crimsonorblue22 That's why I have said he is gone, people think he could improve so much. I don't think he can athletically, He's a 4 year junior in the second half of the season, what you get is what you see. Defense against 3s have been terrible all year and it's just not gonna change at this point unfortunately.

Feb 06, 2019 07:00 PM #812

It seems like the minute we think we have an answer, something screws up that answer.

I do know what we haven't tried -- starting and playing McCormack. I can't say that is the answer. But it is worth a shot at this point. Would work fine in the middle of that 2/3 zone. It is worth a look. But I'm not suggesting it's "the" answer at all. It's an option worth exploring because what we've seen isn't the answer.

Feb 07, 2019 12:08 AM #813

I can't see all the posts, did anyone say that brown shouted out brannen Greene on his dunk at the end of the game?

Feb 07, 2019 12:21 AM #814

@Crimsonorblue22 This may have been what you saw. The only comment about Brannen was actually late in the second half when I said the dunk with a minute left did not bother me.

Texas Hawk 10 said:

So Barry Brown with the dick move to end the game?

Feb 07, 2019 12:38 AM #815

He did call it out. I read it on another blog. Just wasn’t sure you guys knew for sure.

Feb 07, 2019 12:38 AM #816

It was the one that didn’t count

Feb 07, 2019 12:41 AM #817

He took one dribble and then catapulted up and threw the ball down with one hand, only his shot came after the buzzer.

"No, no regret at all, man," Brown said. "Shoutout Brannen Greene."

Feb 07, 2019 01:19 AM #818

joeloveshawks said:

Another gem of a game from Grimes. He hit two 3's. One of those was 10 feet long and banked in off the glass at 100 mph. He had five turnovers. He had four fouls. He had 1 rebound.

How was this kid the #8 recruit in the country and was a lottery pick on every board before the season started?

When does Bill put him on the bench? We have seen it before where Bill puts high ranked stars into the deep freeze. Why not Grimes? Not judging. Honestly asking. What is going on here?

Who you replacing him with? - -Ochai is already on the court -- Garret sure isn't gonna help on the offensive end - - who else you got?

Feb 07, 2019 01:24 AM #819

Crimsonorblue22 said:

I can't see all the posts, did anyone say that brown shouted out brannen Greene on his dunk at the end of the game?

YA -- Class at it's finest. - -but what does he have to worry about -- Senior - -this is his last year - -he can play the fool - not have to worry - - the Phog Awaits

Feb 07, 2019 01:24 AM #820

joeloveshawks said:

Another gem of a game from Grimes. He hit two 3's. One of those was 10 feet long and banked in off the glass at 100 mph. He had five turnovers. He had four fouls. He had 1 rebound.

How was this kid the #8 recruit in the country and was a lottery pick on every board before the season started?

When does Bill put him on the bench? We have seen it before where Bill puts high ranked stars into the deep freeze. Why not Grimes? Not judging. Honestly asking. What is going on here?

Remember when people said the 2018 class was garbage? They were right.

Feb 07, 2019 01:24 AM #821

Crimsonorblue22 said:

He did call it out. I read it on another blog. Just wasn’t sure you guys knew for sure.

ya been reported also b Chasen that's what he said on the last sec dunk

Feb 07, 2019 01:57 AM #822

@jayballer73 that’s where I read it

Feb 07, 2019 02:35 AM #823

@Crimsonorblue22 @jayballer73

So, interesting juxtaposition in our last 2 games. We get motivated by Devonte before the game Saturday, and go out and crush TTex.

Go to Manhattan, and find out that they are motivated by Brannen Greene. And apparently they have figured out how to make virtually our entire team channel our inner Brannen and play as shitty as he did.

Who ever predicted BG as a key to a KU game in 2019?

Feb 07, 2019 02:43 AM #824

@joeloveshawks Theory — Adidas paid Grimes. Self knows. Grimes knows Self knows. Leverage. Grimes starts every game. Just a theory to explain the inexplicable.

Feb 07, 2019 02:56 AM #825

@HighEliteMajor an excellent theory. And probably has weight. And to your earlier point. Why not more Big Dave at this point? I think the kid is good. I've been saying for weeks if not months this particular group of kids is better 3 around 2 if for no other reason than lack of great outside shooting. He just needs more time in there to find himself. But doesn't get it. Why? 4-1 allows for the paid kid to be in more. I'm just done with it. The one time Self should sit the higher regarded (hs ranked) player he doesn't. Or atleast not enough. Now one could say he should play Grimes more to let the this teams ceiling come to fruition. But I just don't think he has it. Big Dave does . Give him the time. Idk. I feel each game like I either know less and less about this game, or it's just changed beyond my comprehension.

Feb 07, 2019 03:08 AM #826

Lol worried about Greenes dunk from 3 years ago, wow get a life.

Feb 07, 2019 03:11 AM #827

Grimes is not the same player he was in the USA games. Self is trying to find that guy. Why wouldn’t any other player speak out that has sat? Anywhere!

Feb 07, 2019 03:14 AM #828

To make matters worse, our girls just blew a 7 point lead in the final 2 minutes and got beat by 10 in OT by KSU. I only watched late but KSU hit a 3 on an obvious walk and had a and 1 without being touched. Don't know how the rest of the game was called. This team would be on the bubble if they learned to finish games out.

Feb 07, 2019 04:22 AM #829

mayjay said:

@Crimsonorblue22 @jayballer73

So, interesting juxtaposition in our last 2 games. We get motivated by Devonte before the game Saturday, and go out and crush TTex.

Go to Manhattan, and find out that they are motivated by Brannen Greene. And apparently they have figured out how to make virtually our entire team channel our inner Brannen and play as shitty as he did.

Who ever predicted BG as a key to a KU game in 2019?

pretty dam funny Brown still got Brennan playing games with his head - - guess all that therapy must of work - - Vent those frustration BERRY roflmfao - -oh Berry - -umm ONE little thing to let play MORE games with you - -you still coming to the Phog lmao - -we will be there - - have a great day

Feb 07, 2019 04:24 AM #830

kjayhawks said:

Lol worried about Greenes dunk from 3 years ago, wow get a life.

Why are you worried about Green's dunk? - - shouldn't be - - I'm not - -Berry Brown was/is - - roflmao. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Feb 07, 2019 11:12 AM #831

@HighEliteMajor

Sitting a highly decorated Top 15 player would look awful bad to recruits. Self was hammered for years by other coaches when he did this in the past.

Feb 07, 2019 12:15 PM #832

@BeddieKU23 Just give Grimes a different look off the bench is all. See if something can jump start him.

But I don’t understand why it’s ok then under that theory to banish a McDonald’s AA to the bench in McCormack. Is there some importance about the top 15 thing you think?

MCormack has been better than Grimes.

Feb 07, 2019 01:20 PM #833

So Grimes' stat line is atrocious, 1 reb 6 pts 4 fouls 5 TOs, it's true (I'm going by others posts on the TOs, espn doesn't have it).

But when we were hanging tough, Grimes was out there on the floor. Vicks line was a little better,.7 pts 3 Reb, 2 assists, 0 PF, ? TOs. However, Vick killed us. Just killed us. Strictly in terms of on floor chemistry, is Grimes decent? Does the team play well with him out there?

Feb 07, 2019 01:59 PM #834

HighEliteMajor said:

@BeddieKU23 Just give Grimes a different look off the bench is all. See if something can jump start him.

But I don’t understand why it’s ok then under that theory to banish a McDonald’s AA to the bench in McCormack. Is there some importance about the top 15 thing you think?

MCormack has been better than Grimes.

I figured you would bring up McCormack and yes I do think there is something to the importance of Grimes being the much higher rated prospect coming in. The OAD train started on him well before he got to campus. There is pressure to satisfy him as well as future recruits that are looking at how Grimes is being used by Self. To counter that, Dotson has been a major win for Self considering a freshman PG hadn't started here in a long time. Dotson's success will have an impact on the type of PG's Self will have a chance with in the future.

There's always a few every year we are wondering why they get minutes or don't get minutes. The whole Agbaji situation still baffles me as well.

Bringing Grimes off the bench I think has the chance to permanently damage the relationship. Kids leave nowadays at the change of the wind. If Q is the type that could be motivated by that tactic then Self should consider it when Marcus is healthy. Or as you suggested prior, play McCormack now and don't wait. I think there is a ton of risk in sitting Grimes at this point. Self has believed in letting him play through all this. I don't know he has to see what we see on tape especially on defense. Usually it isn't tolerated. But then we have Vick...with his head in and out daily so you wonder what is going on with a lot of things in this program. Too many distractions and issues at this point in the season.

Feb 07, 2019 02:10 PM #835

@approxinfinity

The K-St game was clear evidence that Vick cannot be trusted. He was toxic on the court Tuesday.

Feb 07, 2019 02:17 PM #836

@HighEliteMajor

The PER does support that McCormack (14.9) has been the better player then Grimes (8.4) despite the disparity in their minutes. In Conference play Dave's PER is lower 5.2 to Grimes 8.3 which may be why he's played so little. Both numbers are terrible. Actually when you look at everyone's you wish you didn't. Moore-4.5, Mitch-4.7, Dave-5.2, Lawson-6.9, Grimes-8.3. About as bad as it gets from those 5

Feb 07, 2019 02:49 PM #837

@BeddieKU23 As usual, you make very good points.

I am a big, big believer in playing the guy that will be the best player, letting the talent develop, and work towards having the better talent at the end of the season. My struggle with Grimes is that I'm just not seeing much and I seriously question his effort. That's a lot different than Cliff, or Diallo, or Releford, or Selby, or EJ.

To put this in context, I'd start Jamari Traylor over Grimes right now.

But your points are the pragmatic ones. I understand that may be more rational.

Good point on McCormack's PER in conference play. I think if he was able to play, get his legs under him some, we'd be satisfied with his play. Self seems married to the 4/1 now (which I just don't think matches this team very well).

Feb 07, 2019 04:20 PM #838

BeddieKU23 said:

@HighEliteMajor

Sitting a highly decorated Top 15 player would look awful bad to recruits.

Yet, we end up sitting those recruits anyway because they are deemed ineligible.

To change the game we have to quit playing the game and do what's best for the team. Right now I don't even see a team out on the floor. I see five individuals with no cohesion, no cohesiveness and no chemistry.

I don't care who got paid what at this point and I certainly don't care about hurt feelings or some fraudulent pecking order. I don't care about the number of stars next to their name or how great the "experts" think they are. I also don't care about past performance or "potential". Play the guys who have the desire and the hustle and the want-to. I don't even care if THAT starting five are the most talented.

What we're trotting out there now doesn't work. So, try something else.

[Right now this team is like this](

Feb 07, 2019 04:45 PM #839

BeddieKU23 said:

@approxinfinity

The K-St game was clear evidence that Vick cannot be trusted. He was toxic on the court Tuesday.

Self won't do it but I wonder if just straight kicking Vick off the team would be a net positive right now.

Feb 07, 2019 04:47 PM #840

HighEliteMajor said:

Good point on McCormack's PER in conference play. I think if he was able to play, get his legs under him some, we'd be satisfied with his play. Self seems married to the 4/1 now (which I just don't think matches this team very well).

I am not sure but I think a mix would be best. Mitch and KJ can be serviceable at the 4.

Feb 07, 2019 04:49 PM #841

HighEliteMajor said:

@BeddieKU23 As usual, you make very good points.

I am a big, big believer in playing the guy that will be the best player, letting the talent develop, and work towards having the better talent at the end of the season. My struggle with Grimes is that I'm just not seeing much and I seriously question his effort. That's a lot different than Cliff, or Diallo, or Releford, or Selby, or EJ.

To put this in context, I'd start Jamari Traylor over Grimes right now.

But your points are the pragmatic ones. I understand that may be more rational.

Good point on McCormack's PER in conference play. I think if he was able to play, get his legs under him some, we'd be satisfied with his play. Self seems married to the 4/1 now (which I just don't think matches this team very well).

I'm also a big believer in playing the better player. The effort thing you mentioned is my biggest issue with him as well. He is loafing on defense almost to the point you wonder if he's in "protect the goods" mode. Except he's no longer a first round pick so what's he protecting? I don't see any team drafting him after this season either. The tape will expose Grimes in a bad way. So his issue still seems to be mental. His recent interview talking about his struggles to do everything perfect reminds me of the last guy we had with that mentality- Perry Ellis. That was a big thing that held him back in his younger days and I see the similarities. If he sticks around past this season I think he'll be the player we recruited in time. The problem is we expected that player this year.

The last thing I want to mention in regards to Q is I think he's shown he's not an off-the-ball perimeter player. I know Self recruited the Dotson/Grimes duo to play together but I think what Self ended up with is two guards that are meant for the same position. If we throw in Garrett's lack of perimeter shot I think we have 3 guys for one spot on offense. We have Batman's but no Robins. That's where Malik Newman would have saved this team. The dominance Grimes showed in HS was primarily because his role never changed. He was the PG and primary scoring option at all 3 levels (Texas, AAU, Team USA). He was physically bigger then guys who guarded him and his skill level with the ball in his hands made him the player he was projected to be. At KU he's had to learn how to play without the ball for the first time and its showing. He looks slower, he looks disinterested in playing defense especially if a player gets a step on him. When he gets a rebound or an effort play you feel like that's the first time you've seen him do that ever in a KU uniform. I think a lot of the offensive fouls he's been called for this year have zapped his confidence in driving to the hoop. He's more of a straight line driver instead of having some wiggle. That probably is attributed to him being an average athlete at this level which wasn't his problem in HS. His streaky outside shot has also been a disappointment. I have mentioned several times he rushes. He shot near 40% from 3 as a Senior on over 200 attempts so its interesting to see his struggles because a lot of his misses are often wide open.

I agree about Dave. I think he'd prove with the minutes to be valuable to this team. You don't have to teach effort with him like it seems with others. Self seems to have a big issue with his defensive positioning though. I remember him being out of position on his first defensive trip Tuesday where he was caught in front of his man who got a wide open layup. Those mistakes seem to be the kiss of death for a freshman big under Self. But those are ultimately mistakes I think Self should live with in order to build him up. He's going to need him the next 3 years and after all the injuries his lack of playing time just doesn't make much sense.

Feb 07, 2019 04:58 PM #842

@tis4tim

No arguments from me on everything you said. Self wants to win though. Normally his teams are buckling down and forming an identity. Not sure this group will get there.

Feb 07, 2019 05:47 PM #843

@BeddieKU23 They're not buckling down, but they're forming an identity.

Feb 07, 2019 09:22 PM #844

@nuleafjhawk

What Identity would that be?

Feb 07, 2019 09:35 PM #845

BShark said:

HighEliteMajor said:

Good point on McCormack's PER in conference play. I think if he was able to play, get his legs under him some, we'd be satisfied with his play. Self seems married to the 4/1 now (which I just don't think matches this team very well).

I am not sure but I think a mix would be best. Mitch and KJ can be serviceable at the 4.

Dam. - - pretty good point my man - - why didn't I think of that? lol - -they would be better then what we are getting right now. - - - I know I'm in the very minority on KJ - - BUT I am still a KJ fan , I think he sure in the hell could not do any worse right now. - - Don't think we would really need HUGE numbers from them. - -Between him and Mitch - - We know that they at least wouldn't be as timid as Quentin has/is a lot of times - -KJ likes to rebound - - Mitch is gonna give you all he has got --- they wouldn't be afraid to put up a shot - - YET they wouldn't be jacking up ALOT of bad shots on the other hand either.

We know Mitch is not afraid to step in and take a Charge? - -these two guys more of a threat to try and least try to score - -I just am still a KJ fan right now - -I think he could be on the floor more - -you combine those two -- might work some

Feb 07, 2019 10:02 PM #846

@BeddieKU23 An identity of being soft, not hustling. Of course, that's just my opinion.

Feb 07, 2019 10:15 PM #847

I still can't believe I (and some others) thought that not having Doke in the middle might make for a more productive offense. Idiots we were. This team needed a guy like Doke in the worst way.

Given that relatively obvious observation, it would seem that something inside would help Dedric. Dedric is very limited. Defensively he's a disaster inside. Not his strong suit. But the dude can score if he has a bit of space. Job one. Get him space.

Feb 07, 2019 10:18 PM #848

@HighEliteMajor I am still trying to get my head around your comment that you would start Jamari over Grimes! I know it arose out of a sense of Grime-y desperation, but I am thinking the sun rises in the west tomorrow.....

Feb 07, 2019 10:53 PM #849

HighEliteMajor said:

I still can't believe I (and some others) thought that not having Doke in the middle might make for a more productive offense. Idiots we were. This team needed a guy like Doke in the worst way.

Given that relatively obvious observation, it would seem that something inside would help Dedric. Dedric is very limited. Defensively he's a disaster inside. Not his strong suit. But the dude can score if he has a bit of space. Job one. Get him space.

Yep! Self will never banish Vick, and unless Tuesday's Charles is the new Chuck and Mitch continues to scrap like his life depends on it, there will be several guys sabotaging the game in our rotation.

I didn't mention Q, KJ, or Garrett. They never officially made it to my mental Island of Misfit Toys, but obviously, there are many question marks and things need to go right there as well. These guys are at least a net zero on a bad night, not a disaster. Of the three, Garrett has the most potential to be a game changer in limited matchups.

Of the three buckets:

A. potential disaster -- Vick (almost made likely disaster 4th bucket), Mitch, Charlie

B. likely net zero -- Q, KJ, Garrett (Garrett is a match up thing that we should be able to predict, he probably deserves his own bucket)

C. good to great -- Dedric, Dotson, Agbaji

Which bucket do you put Big Dave? I don't think we've seen a complete game of his belong in bucket C, but we need to see him PLAY A COMPLETE GAME before making that assessment. If he did fall in bucket A earlier in the season, I'm just not seeing it now. Kid gives his all and good things happen when a giant waves his wings.

So after Tuesday's game, I would put Dave ahead of Vick for sure, Chuck and Mitch if they bomb their next assigment, KJ if we don't need 3s, and Garrett if we do. I'd put him ahead of Q if the team isn't doing well, otherwise I wouldn't screw the chemistry.

So that leaves only Dotson, Agbaji, and Dedric ahead of Dave :100: of the time.

Do you remember the games where we force fed Doke to the point of bewilderment? (I think there were several, which led to the unfounded conclusion that our offense would be set free sans Doke). Ball goes in, no light escapes... Well now it seems to me that maybe the reason our offense was so simply a binary absolute of [FEED / DO NOT FEED] Doke was because the Chuckers, Wimps, and Poisonous Snakes were certain to sabotage with some bonehead play if the offense was given freewill. Easier to issue the blanket directive "You will look for Doke, and if you don't feed him when he's open, you're coming out."

I think it was you before that said this team needs "Micromanagement Bill" in the worst way. Well, at least this last game gives me some hope that Charles and Mitchell can be productive. That was the most focused and aggressive I've seen them all season. I liked it. But if they aren't, Dave. Vick? No Thanks. Dave. Dave will never throw a no look pass into the bleachers. Never. The road paved with broken players leads to Dave.

And I hope Self sees it.

Feb 07, 2019 11:00 PM #850

I don't think the ineptitude is a permanent condition. We're being schooled on the road by older teams that have been around the block. We're still barely scratching the surface. We're still cobbling together different line ups. There is too much talent on this team to not get better...much better...this year. I wouldn't know when that will be, and I'm not so sure who it will be, but I think this team still has potential...still has possibilities for this year.

Feb 07, 2019 11:06 PM #851

@approxinfinity Put Big Dave in for for a minimum of 10 minutes every game. Wouldn't it have been easier to teach one player ( Big Dave ) his position than trying to get a team to learn a new offense in the middle of the season? Admit it, Coach Self...the 4 out works like a lead balloon with this crew because you don't have the shooters you had last year. Free the hi-lo....FREE BIG DAVE!

Feb 08, 2019 12:39 AM #852

@approxinfinity That’s a PHOF if I’ve ever seen one.

Feb 08, 2019 01:17 AM #853

@HighEliteMajor Your Adidas theory on why Grimes continues to play can't be ignored based on what (sadly) has come to light. My theory is that Self does feel pressure to play a highly recruited guy (I can imagine that has come up on the recruiting trail), that he also has seen what Grimes can do and he wants that to have a chance to shine through. I think the continuing to start thing might be to keep his ego /spirits up. Not starting is more noticeable than not being in at crunch time. And once Garret comes back...I don't think Grimes will be in at crunch time..unless he improves considerably.
I still hold out hope.

Feb 08, 2019 01:46 AM #854

Grimes reminds me so much of Newman last year it's crazy. He's so close to turning the corner and being "a guy." Newman literally sucked for like 95% of the season, but he finally got there. We had threads about how awful he was and how he "seemed" like a cancer.

I think Grimes will get better. He's already shown his shot is starting to fall. Next step is being able to defend for 35 minutes a game and literally turn the corner on the drive. It's coming.

Feb 08, 2019 01:53 AM #855

Kcmatt7 said:

Grimes reminds me so much of Newman last year it's crazy. He's so close to turning the corner and being "a guy." Newman literally sucked for like 95% of the season, but he finally got there. We had threads about how awful he was and how he "seemed" like a cancer.

I think Grimes will get better. He's already shown his shot is starting to fall. Next step is being able to defend for 35 minutes a game and literally turn the corner on the drive. It's coming.

Grimes will be VERY good at KU if he sticks around and just plays. It's been a huge adjustment for him to play off the ball.