Need a pick me up after the Badger beatdown earlier.
Also need a pick me up as I'm watching the Illinois state championship game in OT and the channel showing it left to show White Sox pregame.
But it's a beautiful day and it's starting to feel like spring and the Jayhawks are about to hold onto a 15th straight conference championship.
Do we move up to the 3 line with a win? 26 games against the NCAA field this year for us is what I thought I heard last night at the end of our game. Great schedule this year.
We should be there already. If we win absolutely.
It's been easily the most intriguing season in recent memory for us. The Doke injury, the Desousa situation, the Vick situation. The legal issues, while not fun to deal with, certainly have kept our interest.
Is Grimes fine to play today?
@KirkIsMyHinrich Everything I read said it was muscle cramps and that he is fine.
@KirkIsMyHinrich IDK. But did anyone notice after his 5-5 on 3's first half yesterday he was 0-3 in the 2nd? I did. Twas nice to see him break out though.
@BeddieKU23 Well let's win then!
ESPN thinks 3 acc teams getting a 1 seed. Just go pound sand you biased shits
ESPN has IState as a 1 point favorite. Does that seem right to anyone who's followed the Big 12?
wissox said:
@BeddieKU23 Well let's win then!
I'm hoping so, the 14 seeds are way easier then the 13 seeds being projected. World of difference
They have won 3 of the last 5 big 12 championships. They can shoot us out of the gym on their best day
Let's go Jayhawks 🔴🔵
♥️🏀
Hope we come out throwing it inside to DMac and he gets buckets like TRob used to. With power and purpose!
Hmmmm. there's a player named Zion?
I didn't realize Tenny came back against Tucky and won.
Maybe Fran will get the player names right today.
@HighEliteMajor I checked, we won neither the year before our streak started. But what the heck, why not keep a streak of some sort alive, besides the consecutive dances streak alive.
ISU fans looooove this tournament. Looks like more ISU fans than KU fans here.
Lets do this
When was the last time oBagChi made a shot?
Passing not so hot today.
Should easily be up at least 4 right now with good passing.
Another awful start for Ocahi. Glad self pulled him quickly
How is that a foul? Cyclop wasn't moving when Dave dove for the ball.
I have cousins in Nebraska named Jacobson ?????? Wonder if any connection?
lol at Jacobson hitting a three
So Dave gets a foul call for laying on the ground
BShark said:
lol at Jacobson hitting a three
Complete joke
Their entire offense is chucking
My God
lol
Hilton South?
wissox said:
Hilton South?
Major vomit inducing comment.
BShark said:
wissox said:
Hilton South?
Major vomit inducing comment.
They have been saying it for yrs now
We look pretty dead energy-wise.
Dominating the glass, but shots aren't close to going in. 30% shooting not going to win many games. Sped up????
Gosh if we could hit 3s with no one within 5 feet of us we'd be great. Cant keep driving into 3 or guys. They aren't gonna give us any calls.
Higgins 🤮
Same old Self corner three defense: Just hope they miss it.
wissox said:
Hilton South?
Crowd is about 70-30 Iowa State . Pretty sad actually.
God making layups is like hitting half court shots
Dedric is taking bad shots
Missing too many bunnies
BeddieKU23 said:
God making layups is like hitting half court shots
Good gameplan from Bill bad execution so far.
Dedric has missed about 5 bunnies already
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
God making layups is like hitting half court shots
Good gameplan from Bill bad execution so far.
The issue is we dont finish over athletes
@kjayhawks Dedric is 2-7 so yeah
Boo crowd
5 - 18 ---- just throwing balls in the general direction of the rim....
DCHawker said:
5 - 18 ---- just throwing balls in the general direction of the rim....
Charlie mooring it
I'm happy for ISU throwing all of their might into this tournament because we always have bigger goals in mind.
KSU sold tickets to, guess?
Just need to hit shots, rebounding is good. We just need to engage a little more. Q running the floor to get that block was awesome.
10 points in 10 minutes my god
18-10 RB advantage, but 5-21 from the field and 0-5 from 3....
Brick city.
Too amped up
Lol Dotson
Good God
Look at all the activity and energy from Q. Love it!
Yes
Some rejections need to be caught. We were lucky Grimes swat went right to Marcus
GRIMES WHO ARE YOU
Way to run the floor
Any one else yell get out bitch after the Grimes block lol.
Come Dave. Grab the rebound. Gifted two points
attaway Charlie
You know its bad when Jacobson seems to be the most efficient player on the floor at this point
That 2 off the missed free throw is an absolute no no for Dave.
@truehawk93 hope isu stays cold. Lucky we aren't down more
@BeddieKU23 he was pushed in the back plain as day but if they let all parties play physically I'm fine with it.
Box out on free-throws.
RockChalkinTexas said:
@truehawk93 hope isu stays cold. Lucky we aren't down more
Shayok can stay in the freezer
FTs are horrible at this point
Well, at least we have a balanced "attack" - 4 players with 4 pts
freeeee throooows are hard
I watch a lot of ball on different channels. No other network splits the screen to show anything. ESPN thinks it's so important to see Niang watching the game. and they shrink the action down to about a quarter of my screen. And I'm not watching on any sort of 4 foot TV screen or anything! Does ESPN just intentionally try to piss off Americans because they're good at doing so.
Jacobson has 3 PFs
Lol at that weak ass flop
Got bonus, DANG
BShark said:
freeeee throooows are hard
Garrett has to become a better finisher and FT shooter. He can’t get to the rim whenever he wants .
Fts good god
Has anyone noticed we are 1-6 on FT's? ISU plays very good FT defense apparently
So we think Garrett taking every shot is good o
0-5 from 3 and 1-6 on FTs - revert to the mean and would be in good shape...
Drive the damn ball, they are hacking
Who's with me: at halftime I'm going out on the driveway and shoot free throws. I'll do way better than 1/6.
they forgot N and S
2 on Dotson. Uh oh
He DroppedTHE BALL
Sure Garrett take every shot
Good lord Dedric is awful today
ridiculous
This reminds me of the Badgers missing most every shot today.
Good timeout self your team is stinking it up
If we can keep this with in 5 by halftime we will win
BShark said:
Good lord Dedric is awful today
Which player is playing well?
is it me or are they worse this first half than last night's first half?
0-7 from 3. 1-6 from the line. Who needs shooting practice?
Gotta get a couple of 3s to fall, so Dedric has some room to work.
hope we go in within 2-3 pts
Stinking up the place. Listless just like I saw in Austin
Garrett 0-5 from the floor 1-4 from the stripe he maybe hurting more than helping
@kjayhawks He does have 8 rebounds....
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Good lord Dedric is awful today
Which player is playing well?
Not Dedric or Garrett.
Good news, Shayok is 0/5
@RockChalkinTexas I think the efforts there; just not executing well. Good grief, passing the ball out for a 3 from Garrett-Why?
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
Good lord Dedric is awful today
Which player is playing well?
Not Dedric or Garrett.
Good question, I got nothing
Maybe QG's energy?
Lawson now 2-10...
Oh well
Wigginton is their answer...
Nice defense
lid on the rim
Dedric you can sit
Yeahhhhhhhh
JFC
And sit your brother too
shat
Need Dotson back in big time.
This one is ova
Aaaargh! That is all.
Good job good effort boys
That's game bet we lose by 20 plus. We have been known to just quit once down double digits
I guess I never appreciated that ISU was such a defensive dynamo....
This is a disaster of epic proportions.
Self better tear some new ones fast
Woahhhhhhhhh we suck
This may be the worst game ever this year
Only way Dedric can score?
We're saving it all for the second half. Got them right where we want them...
Weak play. They need to drive into the defender and make the refs do something. fading away and missing isn’t cutting it.
truehawk93 said:
This may be the worst game ever this year
We were down 25 to tech at half. Ya sure
cragarhawk said:
We're saving it all for the second half. Got them right where we want them...
I'll have what your drinking
Oh. You thought I was serious....
Black hole Garrett
I wish the power would go out or that thugs would break in and steal my TV.
That's a pretty remarkable stat - no points outside the paint.....
how about the FT nightmare
Lol dedric
Dedric needs to be pulled, too weak like a sissy girl. Put in power David.
Sad thing is Iowa St is awful at defesne
@kjayhawks hey!
Jumps high enough to block a shot... Won't jump an inch to shoot or dunk
Can someone explain HCBS substitution reasoning? Most players arent iout there long enough to impact the game. Garrett is having a horrible offensive game. Why is Moore in? 🙄 Please don’t tell me he’s looking for a combination that works....This seems like madness?
guess its a 10 pt deficit and Prohm calls a TO?
And we even are in double bonus
@Gorilla72 d dot has 2 fouls
be happy if cut to 8 going into the half
We get both their bigs in foul trouble with 6 minutes and dont even do anything about it
Solid 25% free throw shooting night.
no attack of the rim as last night which worked really well
10 of 35 from the field. I think that's blindfolded numbers
Well if we score 50 in the second half we may have a shot
That’s the best shot they can get with 20 seconds left. Ridiculous
Nice shot we got there
ISU even called TO and no play from Self? I don't get it...
I feel lucky it ain't a 20 point game.
Give it a min or two
It will be 20 before the under 12
It could be waaaay worse. KU is playing very poorly, but ISU isn’t hitting shots. Hope KU locks in soon.
kjayhawks said:
I feel lucky it ain't a 20 point game.
Sad part is KU is beating KU. ISU is just as worse. They are not playing much better, but as usual KU is making them look better.
Why the hell are we skipping shoot-around?
ISU is 64th in defensive efficiency per Kenpom. Roaring up the charts now.....
Grimes now 0-6 since starting 5-5 last night.
@KirkIsMyHinrich Saving energy for the second half I hope.
This team takes a great step forward and then 2 steps back
KU didn’t make a shot the last 7:47. Wow
Woodrow said:
KU didn’t make a shot the last 7:47. Wow
NOPE
You can bet Self is chewing some azz
Woodrow said:
KU didn’t make a shot the last 7:47. Wow
Can we sneak Braun and McBride into the game somehow?
Dedric 2 of 10. Be nice if he would jump a lil... But no. I guess just keep letting everything short off the front iron. Working so far. Use the glass... Dunk the damn ball... Or god forbid do something that makes ya look remotely explosive
If the clowns maintain their horrible play and KU turns this around, we can beat them
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Why the hell are we skipping shoot-around?
Did you watch the first half. KU's legs are tired. That's why they're shooting so bad and why they didn't have a shoot around. ISU didn't shoot that well either. They only made 3 more FG's in the half. Both teams sucked at the line. The 3 pointers ISU made are the difference.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Why the hell are we skipping shoot-around?
Did you watch the first half. KU's legs are tired. That's why they're shooting so bad and why they didn't have a shoot around. ISU didn't shoot that well either. They only made 3 more FG's in the half. Both teams sucked at the line. The 3 pointers ISU made are the difference.
3? Jacobson, Wigginton, and Haliburton
Who gets the ISU MVP? Dedric or Marcus?
There is major fatigue on both sides tonight. FT's are bad for both sides is the biggest indicator.
Dedric, Ochai, Grimes and Garret are a combined 4-26.....
Texas Hawk 10 said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Why the hell are we skipping shoot-around?
Did you watch the first half. KU's legs are tired. That's why they're shooting so bad and why they didn't have a shoot around. ISU didn't shoot that well either. They only made 3 more FG's in the half. Both teams sucked at the line. The 3 pointers ISU made are the difference.
Right, because shoot-around is so hard on your legs when you're 20 years old. Give me a break. We need to be in the gym shooting as much as we possibly can.
We haven't played hard enough defense for 1 damn minute total this year. No reason to have tired legs. At all
It will be interesting to see what they do in the 2nd half
truehawk93 said:
Texas Hawk 10 said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Why the hell are we skipping shoot-around?
Did you watch the first half. KU's legs are tired. That's why they're shooting so bad and why they didn't have a shoot around. ISU didn't shoot that well either. They only made 3 more FG's in the half. Both teams sucked at the line. The 3 pointers ISU made are the difference.
3? Jacobson, Wigginton, and Haliburton
KU made 10 FG's, 0 3FG's and 2 FT's. ISU made 13 FG's, 3 3FG's, and 3 FT's. Those 3 pointers and extra FT is the 10 point difference.
cragarhawk said:
We haven't played hard enough defense for 1 damn minute total this year. No reason to have tired legs. At all
lazy? Fran calls it old man play, but DLaw looks lazy most of the time. He acts like he can't move to save his life.
Agreed. I refuse to believe he simply cannot jump
Thank God we saved our worst half of the Season for our Championship game of the Big 12 Tourney - I have never seen such a pathetic mess. - This could so easily be a 20-25 point half time deficit - better thank GOD Iowa State wasn't hitting their 3's
O'fer from 3 pt - -Dedric acts like he has alligator arms short shooting anything and everything just can't really find anything - -I'm searching but I don't find anything positive for this game.
I think it could get really ugly in the 2nd half - -I have this feeling Iowa State gonna microwave in the 2nd - Geez - - -Think I'll break out the liquor. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
The best DLaw moved was when he drove the lane and DUNKED the ball. Yes, dunked the ball. But there was a foul and the shot didn't count last night. I couldn't believe it was DLaw who moved down the lane with authority.
truehawk93 said:
It will be interesting to see what they do in the 2nd half
If we do anything in the 2nd half -- it will be a hell of a lot more then we did the 1st
cragarhawk said:
Give it a min or two
Sure with that attitude! ;)
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Texas Hawk 10 said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Why the hell are we skipping shoot-around?
Did you watch the first half. KU's legs are tired. That's why they're shooting so bad and why they didn't have a shoot around. ISU didn't shoot that well either. They only made 3 more FG's in the half. Both teams sucked at the line. The 3 pointers ISU made are the difference.
Right, because shoot-around is so hard on your legs when you're 20 years old. Give me a break. We need to be in the gym shooting as much as we possibly can.
Most of KU's misses have been short. That's always a major sign of tired legs. When KU is playing in the final game every night, KU has had the least rest of anyone in the B12 tournament.
Grimes was already cramping last night, they're definitely tired.
Gotta think Shayock makes 2-3 triples this half.
kjayhawks said:
Who gets the ISU MVP? Dedric or Marcus?
LOL -- how about splitting it
jayballer73 said:
truehawk93 said:
It will be interesting to see what they do in the 2nd half
If we do anything in the 2nd half -- it will be a hell of a lot more then we did the 1st
Right...It can only get better, maybe?
@approxinfinity looked like it was headed there to me. Perhaps we can get a better half here. Doubt my attitude changes it either way. But I certainly wish I had that power 😋
I guess the law of averages should help us in the 2nd half...but Shayok hasn't hit anything either...that probably won't continue.
I dont think our energy is just need to make the easy plays. 10 misses with in 4 feet and 0-9 from distance.
the clowns have blown leads too and we have actually responded fairly well in this situation
wissox said:
I wish the power would go out or that thugs would break in and steal my TV.
roflmao - -now you stop that lol -- if they do -- send my way to get mine to ok. - -I'm running for my beverage to ease this nightmare lol
If we can cut it to 5 or so right away..I'll feel alright. If not....we could be in trouble.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Texas Hawk 10 said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Why the hell are we skipping shoot-around?
Did you watch the first half. KU's legs are tired. That's why they're shooting so bad and why they didn't have a shoot around. ISU didn't shoot that well either. They only made 3 more FG's in the half. Both teams sucked at the line. The 3 pointers ISU made are the difference.
Right, because shoot-around is so hard on your legs when you're 20 years old. Give me a break. We need to be in the gym shooting as much as we possibly can.
Most of KU's misses have been short. That's always a major sign of tired legs. When KU is playing in the final game every night, KU has had the least rest of anyone in the B12 tournament.
Grimes was already cramping last night, they're definitely tired.
Their legs are going to be tired regardless of whether you have shoot-around or not. Shoot-around does not wear your legs out like at all. You stand and shoot. Might as well get the shooting practice in because clearly we need it. We haven't been a good shooting team even when our legs have been fresh.
Lol
If we can’t make 4 or 5 threes it’s not gonna matter. Might not matter anyway
Wollp.
Getting crushed
Pass the ball to NULL!
Haha. Decide we're not even gonna try in the second half. Bold strategy cotton
Ya we quit no question
Route city
So much for a good start to the 2nd half. The boys don't have it today.
Why call timeout bill the game was over 30 minutes ago
This team is so damn soft. Any adversary and they fold
We're sandbagging for the final 8 min. We're gonna let them get tired and then we will start giving a shit..
If we are going to lose anyway I just want to watch Dave and DDot play.
It was a great achievement to make the finals. I truly didnt think they had it in them to get this far
Pts in the paint = 22. We hit 2 of 8 free throws. That's 0 points outside the paint. Jeez.
Agree
you would of thought we would of put up a better effort then that - hell we can't even hit a layup - -ow many bunnies?
I think this is the 4th game I've turned off this year. We quit plain and simple. I'll see ya'll Tomorrow to see who spanks us first.
Rather Dave than KJ
@kjayhawks CYA
Jacobsen go cry to your mother you POS
Wow. Finished 2 layups in a row.
Remember when people thought Ochai was a lottery pick
Woodrow said:
Remember when people thought Ochai was a lottery pick
nope
Well ppl still think lawson is going to the league .. lol
cragarhawk said:
Well ppl still think lawson is going to the league .. lol
He is. Just not the big one
Remember when we thought we were gonna make a run in the NCAA ?
I'm hanging in
@BeddieKU23 exactly. D league for a bit. And then accross the Atlantic
Showing some fight
@jayballer73 nope
cragarhawk said:
@BeddieKU23 exactly. D league for a bit. And then accross the Atlantic
No shame in making money elsewhere. His old man at the y game will kill it somewhere.
Kj on the other hand better find a school he likes to finish his degree
@BeddieKU23 agreed again. It's just funny ppl think he will play in the NBA
I always watch the whole game, no matter how bad it gets. Sometimes it sucks.
Won't give up
Kids just need to play hard and learn some things here. We got nothing to lose
cragarhawk said:
@BeddieKU23 agreed again. It's just funny ppl think he will play in the NBA
Expectations are high for any player that comes to ku, especially ones as hyped as he was
@BeddieKU23 I believe he has the tools is the sad part
Dedric never defends
Gawd, their worse this half, ugh
We can foul really well
cragarhawk said:
@BeddieKU23 I believe he has the tools is the sad part
Gifted player. Just a shade below what is needed
Except his defense is horrendous
Idk how the hell as a power 5 D1 team they can't score more than this by 100% pure f'n accident... It's mind boggling
The definition of insanity is letting Garrett play tonight
@BeddieKU23 I believe the problem is more inside than anything outside
I hope I am not related to Jacobson
This is a first weekend exit squad.
They get nothing this year. This deficit is too large for them. They don't have the firepower to close.
I feel like we've known that for a good long while
I'm baffled, nothing, don't get it...wow
They just seem to give up
Had to go to the airport to pick up me wife. How's the game going?
Going great for the team that didn't quit
DanR said:
Had to go to the airport to pick up me wife. How's the game going?
You'd probably have more fun at the airport right now.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@Gorilla72 d dot has 2 fouls
This isn’t on Dotson at all. Garrett and OA are really bad today. It doesn’t appear ISU even guards MG drives, knowing he’ll miss.
Pull them all and put the scout team in and maybe they can salvage something
Jk. Listening on the radio
Here we go
KU's legs look done.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
KU's legs look done.
Look? They are done, spent, dead
If anyone wants to watch a fun game, Wichita State is tied up with Cincy with 3 minutes to go. WSU needs to win their tourney to get into the NCAAT.
Come on boyz, you can do this
I can't say how disappointed i am in Chuck It Up Charlie. He can't even get the team into an offense. Dribble, dribble, desperate dribble. Bad pass. Turnover.
Let's paint a nice lil ticky tack foul right over here....
jayhawkcsg said:
I can't say how disappointed i am in Chuck It Up Charlie. He can't even get the team into an offense. Dribble, dribble, desperate dribble. Bad pass. Turnover.
He can freakin' walk. He's a total waste of paper. He needs to play NAIA
Their legs are fine. These are 20-year olds. Iowa St has played 3 straight games too by the way. What they lack is effort and shooting ability.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Their legs are fine. These are 20-year olds. Iowa St has played 3 straight games too by the way. What they lack is effort and shooting ability.
They better wake up and play. They better find their 20 yr old legs.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Their legs are fine. These are 20-year olds. Iowa St has played 3 straight games too by the way. What they lack is effort and shooting ability.
Sad to say this is it. And look, who knows where this team is with the same sequence of other events without Dedric, probably pretty bad, but man, I'm honestly not going to be sad to see him go.
Not very poised is as much of it as anything. And taking off too many plays... Gotta effort all the time to win
Why aren't we doing that?
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Their legs are fine. These are 20-year olds. Iowa St has played 3 straight games too by the way. What they lack is effort and shooting ability.
Iowa State looks fine energy wise and able to make 3’s .
If we are being honest they are a better team.
Lawson just stands there
Lid on the bucket
Prove me wrong CHuck
BeddieKU23 said:
Lawson just stands there
Won’t have worry about that next year.
cragarhawk said:
Not very poised is as much of it as anything. And taking off too many plays... Gotta effort all the time to win
I miss Frank.
Put in Teahan
Hell I miss TRob and Tyshawn even.
Lazy defense because they aren't moving their legs because their legs are done. KU is reaching for everything now.
Ok Chuck made one. Bench him
I miss devonte
Lol. They play lazy defense when they're fresh...
I still feel like isu could blow it
approxinfinity said:
Ok Chuck made one. Bench him
Now he has to brick 4 to make it even
Or whatever the hell that just was
Hope UpChuck can prove us all wrong
truehawk93 said:
Hope UpChuck can prove us all wrong
Not possible
It doesn't look as bad on the radio fwiw
Nice recovery DDot
cragarhawk said:
Lol. They play lazy defense when they're fresh...
Just shut up and take the attitude over to KUSports with the rest of the people who crap on this team every game.
Chill
Didn't they chucky would be our savior
DanR said:
It doesn't look as bad on the radio fwiw
Lol phof!
dylans said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Lawson just stands there
Won’t have worry about that next year.
Yeah but the scary part is who will be playing his position next yr
@Texas-Hawk-10 nah. I'm good. You can give our the trophies for mediocrity if you chose. I don't
Refs like calling fouls on us and not on them right now.
Grimes has given max effort again today. Just wanted to give him his due
All right. Gotta go. Don't give up yet!
BeddieKU23 said:
dylans said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Lawson just stands there
Won’t have worry about that next year.
Yeah but the scary part is who will be playing his position next yr
Mitch is the worst case scenario and honestly I don't hate it. Though of course I'd love to see a stud added.
Only down 9
Play hard d!!!
Now I'm leaving
Ok dedric with back to back buckets
Need a stop. Not another halicrapon 3
Braun is going to grow 3 inches and be our stretch 4. Obviously.
cragarhawk said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 nah. I'm good. You can give our the trophies for mediocrity if you chose. I don't
Where am I giving participation trophies? Because I don't crap on the team every time they play poorly. This is an inexperienced team that is showing their inexperience. Part of that inexperience with so many young teams is they aren't as well conditioned as the older ISU team that's been there done that.
Damn fouls...
On que the refs fuck us
@Texas-Hawk-10 I'm calling them out when they don't try hard. That's all. I've never cared of they win. This team largely has played lazy defense this year. Fresh or not. That's what I said. You don't have to agree.
Shit.. might be the dagger
Where's McCormack?
BENCH CHARLIE
cragarhawk said:
Shit.. might be the dagger
Oh it definitely is. At least KU kinda tried there for a bit.
RockChalkinTexas said:
Where's McCormack?
Please yes
Dang we're out of timeouts. No chance now.
Can’t beleive Iowa St can make all these big 3’s with tired legs
cragarhawk said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I'm calling them out when they don't try hard. That's all. I've never cared of they win. This team largely has played lazy defense this year. Fresh or not. That's what I said. You don't have to agree.
You only talk when KU plays like crap and sing the same song everytime even when it's a bullshit reason.
So 44 points in the paint ain't gonna get it
@Texas-Hawk-10 oh cool. You don't agree. And I didn't tell you to leave. So how easy that is.
cragarhawk said:
@BShark they actually played pretty hard first half overall. Just played without poise and missed alot of shots. This half. Especially early... Took off way too many possessions defensively
And yet you bitched about them being lazy earlier. Don't change your tune now.
Damn, can't do that Dot.
Come on guys. Don't take your frustrations out on each other.
Looked like a flop but w/e.
@Texas-Hawk-10 yes. I did. Earlier in this half. And you keep harping on goddamn legs for friggin teenagers... Don't wanna hear that petty shit. The haven't played inspired defense largely all year. It has nothing to with legs. It's inside. Plain and simple
Seriously...more Teahan! let him shoot.
Garrett with 14 rebounds wow
cragarhawk said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 yes. I did. Earlier in this half. And you keep harping on goddamn legs for friggin teenagers... Don't wanna hear that petty shit. The haven't played inspired defense largely all year. It has nothing to with legs. It's inside. Plain and simple
Tonight is legs, short shots, not moving legs and reaching. Self skipping a shoot around. All signs of tired legs.
This team has no comeback ability because of their lack of outside shooting.
@Texas-Hawk-10 okay. Well I personally disagree. But you can stay. And you don't even have to shut up. How's that?... Smh
Might have got slightly interesting if Q hit that. Just a terrible game from three today for KU,.
Playing hard!
People can shit on Marcus all they want but at least he tries his ass off
There's time... D up and get some shots to fall
cragarhawk said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 okay. Well I personally disagree. But you can stay. And you don't even have to shut up. How's that?... Smh
Of course you do because all you know how to do is shit on 18-20 year old kids.
The ignore button would be great on here
Texas Hawk 10 said:
cragarhawk said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 okay. Well I personally disagree. But you can stay. And you don't even have to shut up. How's that?... Smh
Of course you do because all you know how to do is shit on 18-20 year old kids.
This circle jerk here is why I didn't login for a year.
Wow! Can't believe that went in for ISU! Swap that and the Grimes 3 and it would be REALLY interesting.
@Texas-Hawk-10 maybe you only pay attention to what you think is negativity. And not to the positives as well. That's a you problem. Not a me problem
F u refs
BeddieKU23 said:
F u refs
Hard to even blame Dedric for being mad when he gets mugged with no call frequently.
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
F u refs
Hard to even blame Dedric for being mad when he gets mugged with no call frequently.
Dotson got crushed coming down the court and they get a steal. Sure
@cragarhawk That spike by Lawson sure looked like someone who doesn't give a damn.
I think you can only do that in football....
Dedric is mad about the previous play. What a joke refs
@BeddieKU23 Shockingly, it's Higgins.
And by shockingly I mean...well...you know...
Joe DeRosa is calling the game tonight, so we knew we weren't going to get any sort of whistle. What's worse is we have Fran here trying to validate all of the bad calls against Kansas.
BShark said:
And by shockingly I mean...well...you know...
Yupp
RockChalkinTexas said:
Texas Hawk 10 said:
cragarhawk said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 okay. Well I personally disagree. But you can stay. And you don't even have to shut up. How's that?... Smh
Of course you do because all you know how to do is shit on 18-20 year old kids.
This circle jerk here is why I didn't login for a year.
Doesn't get like this too often. Rarely on game threads especially for which I'm thankful. I can guarantee there's other similar sites right now where WW3 is starting for about the 28th time this season.
Welp. See you later
Hey at least they finished up with some heart. That's a plus. I'm probably most amazed they didn't come out harder early second half. Self usually takes care of that
Lost this game in the first half
wissox said:
RockChalkinTexas said:
Texas Hawk 10 said:
cragarhawk said:
@Texas-Hawk-10 okay. Well I personally disagree. But you can stay. And you don't even have to shut up. How's that?... Smh
Of course you do because all you know how to do is shit on 18-20 year old kids.
This circle jerk here is why I didn't login for a year.
Doesn't get like this too often. Rarely on game threads especially for which I'm thankful. I can guarantee there's other similar sites right now where WW3 is starting for about the 28th time this season.
I guarantee the phog is unreadable right now.
Damn .
I can only hope we have a good run in the tourney...
but this team are flawed, and not sure Self has figured out what to do with these guys.
Even my faith In Self is shaken. Seriously
This whole season has really thrown me for a loop. I look forward to KU ball all damn year, and now I’m really struggling
Talk about major disappointment
Damn
Hopefully we have more then 1 game left. Tonight's game wont make that happen
Derosa, I start to go into the tremors when I hear that name because of 2015.
Iowa St was plus 15 from 3 and plus 10 from the line. Hard to overcome that.
Haters will hate, but this has been a horrible season for KU. This team just has little to no identity.
Does this put us on the 4 line? Or was it 3 either way after getting to this game?
Its amazing how poor this team is at shooting from every area of the court
wissox said:
Derosa, I start to go into the tremors when I hear that name because of 2015.
Seriously I think he has something against Kansas at this point.
@cragarhawk legs is a pussy excuse. We rested our starters plenty yesterday when ISU didnt.
truehawk93 said:
Haters will hate, but this has been a horrible season for KU. This team just has little to no identity.
Couldn’t agree more. Losing Doke hurt that. Without him this team does nothing well.
Bosthawk said:
Damn .
I can only hope we have a good run in the tourney...
but this team are flawed, and not sure Self has figured out what to do with these guys.Even my faith In Self is shaken. Seriously
This whole season has really thrown me for a loop. I look forward to KU ball all damn year, and now I’m really struggling
Talk about major disappointment
Damn
This wouldn't be the first season that felt like Self was throwing things at the wall hoping something would stick.
At least to me, the 15/16 season felt like that for sure.
4 I believe. I dont think beating 2 teams not making the tourney helped us eniugh
Overall, they actually over achieved with all the handicaps on and off the court
This is a long thread. Maybe I missed it. Why isn’t McCormack playing?
Bill didn't care if we won. Top 4 seed here we come
I guess sending a message.
We will be in the West?
Gorilla72 said:
This is a long thread. Maybe I missed it. Why isn’t McCormack playing?
Self went small.
Woodrow said:
truehawk93 said:
Haters will hate, but this has been a horrible season for KU. This team just has little to no identity.
Couldn’t agree more. Losing Doke hurt that. Without him this team does nothing well.
Is Dedric inefficiently scoring against athletic defenders an identity?
Couldn't hit a three to save our lives
1-2 and 1-4 ... 3pt
approxinfinity said:
Bill didn't care if we won. Top 4 seed here we come
They will be a 4 seed and if they somehow make it to the second weekend will get absolutely undressed by any 1 seed.
Well. After tonight we'll be ranked about 150th in 3-point percentage in D1. When our legs are rested we should probably work on that.
Bosthawk said:
Damn .
I can only hope we have a good run in the tourney...
but this team are flawed, and not sure Self has figured out what to do with these guys.Even my faith In Self is shaken. Seriously
This whole season has really thrown me for a loop. I look forward to KU ball all damn year, and now I’m really struggling
Talk about major disappointment
Damn
Not having three key players from last years final four team is why we have what we have. The roster is top five good but really hard to win big games without those guys.
truehawk93 said:
Couldn't hit a three to save our lives
This was the game today. 3-18
Great timing for the clowns and they got us on their night.
Good thing self signed bucket getters. Too bad he will still play guys that can't shoot in front of them
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Well. After tonight we'll be ranked about 150th in 3-point percentage in D1. When our legs are rested we should probably work on that.
Probably amazing the season is as successful as it was considering that. And this team would still be really damn good with Doke. :'(
BeddieKU23 said:
Good thing self signed bucket getters. Too bad he will still play guys that can't shoot in front of them
I bumped the Marcus Garrett thread recently fyi.
Happy with the 2nd half effort honestly. We at least made them make luck shots. Weiler babbs and shayoks junk really hurt. Fouls and not called fouls as well
4 seed isn't awful for this group. If you consider the body of work since Dokes went out it's probably actually a gift
I got nothing for Garrett. I don't get that kid.
ESPN is happy to slob on Zion now until selection show
cragarhawk said:
4 seed isn't awful for this group. If you consider the body of work since Dokes went out it's probably actually a gift
They're fortunate they didn't get worse. They could easily be a 6-7 seed, but as I said during a bracketology post, our resume is too good and we were guaranteed no less than a 4-5 seed.
cragarhawk said:
4 seed isn't awful for this group. If you consider the body of work since Dokes went out it's probably actually a gift
I also bumped the 13-8 thread! lol
Garrett and dedric missing layup after layup was huge.
I agree. We can make the Sweet 16 or go home during the week. Whichever door these guys choose will not surprise many
And look it's not Garrett's fault that he plays as much as he does.
Well. We're probably not good enough to go too deep in the tournament this season but I think we are capable of screwing up the tournament for other teams. Like Duke or Kentucky.
BeddieKU23 said:
I agree. We can make the Sweet 16 or go home during the week. Whichever door these guys choose will not surprise many
They'll be ready and as most have said, they will likely be Sweet 16. We all know they have the ability to play E8. But that will definitely be a long shot. I've never seen a team with little to no fight. Then when they fight, it's ugly. It looks like they don't even know how to fight.
Garrett isn't the best outside shooter. But it isn't though we got a stable full of them sitting there waiting to come in.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Well. We're probably not good enough to go too deep in the tournament this season but I think we are capable of screwing up the tournament for other teams. Like Duke or Kentucky.
Um.....
Garrett's 0-2 from 3 had very little impact, Garrett's 2-10 (all from inside 4 feet) on 2s and 1 for 4 from line was trouble. Sometimes the ball just doesn't go in the home I suppose. No pressure next could be positive.
I honestly cannot see any of our guys going to the nba. Not one. Maybe de Sousa goes pro somewhere. He got totally jobbed.
Scandal, doke out, Vick comes back, then leaves, ncaa using Kansas as a scapegoat by over punishing de Sousa, Grimes really not what we were hoping for, garret hurt, we lose the 12 championship, and,., Moore- we have Moore playing minutes. He does not fit on our team, we (Self) should be able to do better than Moore.
just sooooo disappointed.
And after we lose in the tourney (really doesn’t matter which round for me at least, hopefully we get to second weekend) then there is the endless wait til next season.
Sorry just in a really crappy mood.
KU's best shot at winning a S16 game is getting Virginia the 1 seed. KU can't outscore the other 3 projected 1 seeds.
Need to enjoy what whatever tournament games we get this year. May not get any next year. Keep that in mind
Joe "the Leprechaun" Lunardi has KU in the East as a 4 seed. I would not be surprised if this win for ISU bumps them from a 5 to a 4 seed after winning the B12 tourney. They will be rewarded.
KU - Rd 1 Salt Lake City v. Northeastern
Purdue
Wisconsin
Virginia Tech
These are all 4 seeds. I don't think the upper seeds are going to change. Many bubble teams will change. I don't think KU could get worse than East coast, except maybe West coast. East coast is actually better.
Leaving this nugget here
34 minutes Dotson played the score was 67-65 ISU 6 minutes Dotson didn’t play the score was 12-2 ISU.
We were not able to utilize our three most talented players. As excuses go, pretty valid.
We are so offensively challenged in certain matchups — Garrett and Mitch excel in certain matchups but not others. Agbaji going in the tank has been a killer.
@BShark So you’re saying Charlie Moore might not be that good?
@cragarhawk I mean we know Charlie isn't good, and foul trouble kinda forced Bill's hand but it would be a real game changer next year if McBride is a capable back-up or Garrett takes a big step forward. Just something to prevent Charlie from getting minutes. Garrett HAS to get his shot to a respectable level if he continues to get huge minutes.
HighEliteMajor said:
We were not able to utilize our three most talented players. As excuses go, pretty valid.
We are so offensively challenged in certain matchups — Garrett and Mitch excel in certain matchups but not others. Agbaji going in the tank has been a killer.
@BShark So you’re saying Charlie Moore might not be that good?
Something like that.
And I agree about Agbaji. Him just being a respectable shooter did big things for the team. The team can't afford him being a non-factor because that makes too many zero impact offensive players in the rotation.
Whoever said Self didn't care about this game earlier was right.
@BShark Garrett needs a complete makeover. It is arguably gross negligence for him to be allowed to continue to use that horrible form and release. I can’t even fathom it. Now, I’m not advocating the George McGinnis one hand jumper, but one where he get the ball well above his head and uses his wrist — it’s the opposite of what he’s doing and that’s the best place to start.
Agbaji was a game changer. Hope he gets some of that swagger back. I don't think Garret ever magically becomes a great 3 point shooter. He's been playing a day or two... But ya we gotta hope he could at least improve some. What else do we have on that front.
For the largest part they gotta stop taking off so many possessions on d in my opinion. Too many times of standing and watching a guy drive to the cup. Or standing and letting a rebound come down to the opponent. You don't have to do that very many times in a game to make a double digits outcome
BShark said:
Whoever said Self didn't care about this game earlier was right.
There we go. Let's hope this is only what we look like on 3rd day in a row.
Lawson was constantly out of position on D and was too lazy to slide and help out when our guards got beat off the dribble. This more than anything affected the game. His lack of athleticism just kills us. This will be our undoing in the tourney. Even more than another poor shooting night.
@Fightsongwriter agree :100: if we had a rim protector like Dave in there then maybe it's not as big a deal. Unfortunately Dave rode pine. Maybe Self is keeping the high low to a min to bust it out in tourney. That's my bet.
I can't fault the effort tonight. But we did not execute at all.
Sadly Lawson never plays D. I guess it's to be expected -- maybe Self told him to lay low on D so he doesn't foul out.
Which is worse? Him not playing D or him in foul trouble and our offense is way worse?
Iiiiii belieeeeve Big Dave is the answerrrr
Iiiiii belieeeeve that Self will find a way
That Self will find a way
@HighEliteMajor So am I for suggesting it!
@jayhawkcsg Both.
He can't play D! Can't bend his knees or slide his feet, haven't seen him do it. No D stance!
Agreed about Lawson on defense, at times it seems to me either he moves about as fast as a herd of turtles stampeding thru peanut butter or he just doesnt try.
I do think it helps with this young of a team to play the maximum number of games we could in KC. The atmosphere was good and similar to the ones we will see next week. Iike having very little to no expectations, we really haven't had that luxury for more than a year or 2 IMO of the Bill Self era (06,09 but I'd say less this season because those teams won the conference).
A couple of postgame thoughts:
— glad we got three postseason games under our belt. That will help the freshmen in the big dance.
— Iowa State is a tough matchup for us if they are motivated. Our two bigs can’t keep up with their small ball lineup.
— how many tournament teams play small lineups? Hope we don’t see em.
— Grimes seems more involved and smoother, despite missing shots.
— Garrett had 15 rebounds. 15!
— Ochai has been invisible for awhile.
— I wish Dotson was a few inches taller. Finishing, defending would be easier.
— Dedric is just laughably bad on defense.
— upon further reflection, I don’t like Ochai’s shooting form. What’s with that weird Jordan leg kick? Odd.
— Dedric is a highly talented offensive player.
— I’d like Charlie to leave the program when the season is over.
— We desperately need recruits for next year. Bigs. Backup PG. A dunker.
— The next few years very well could be about the same as this year.
— Garrett. Hmm. Self is so high on him. Love his effort and sticktoitness. Just offers very little on offense. That hurts us as a team. He needs to finish stronger, which is easier than learning to shoot.
— if we are to win an NCAA game, or make it out of the first weekend, we’ll need good matchups and ... well, shit, I dunno what we will need! Miracle?
@jayhawkcsg I think Garrett can be effective when he is finishing at the rim...like he was doing before he got hurt. But he HAS to be able to do that or he is definite liability on offense.
It is difficult to have high expectations for this team next week. We start 4 freshmen. It is really asking a lot to expect such a young team....unless the freshmen are going to be in the League next year (see...Duke, Kentucky) to go very far in the tourney...IMO.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
@cragarhawk That spike by Lawson sure looked like someone who doesn't give a damn.
No just a mentally weak individual matching his weak physique. I wish he was the NBA ready man he thinks he is.
BShark said:
truehawk93 said:
Couldn't hit a three to save our lives
This was the game today. 3-18
Weren’t we told KU needs to shoot more threes? Only way to win is to bomb away and be like Nova?!? Lolololololol
BShark said:
This is a first weekend exit squad.
I truly believe so. Anything even if we win the 2nd game - -is pure gravy at this point. -Sad to think that at the beginning of the year - we were Serious contenders for the Title - hard to remember even being Ranked # 1 at any point during the season. - - Thank GOD the season for Rankings is over or our streak of being ranked in the top 25 would be in real jeopardy. - Just been a really bad year in KU sports.
It's ok though - -I'm not going to try and fool myself - - it is what it is just sit back and watch them let it fly they win I'll still be proud. -if we a 4 sees means we play a 12 seed - -could be dangerous for sure - major problem with this team - -just to inconsistent - long scoring droughts - you just can't have long stretches without scoring the ball - -especially in the tourney - -were lacking that dominant force on both ends - - a true stud - but I'm still here.
ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG MY FRIENDS - -- HAPPY ST PAT'S DAY
BShark said:
If anyone wants to watch a fun game, Wichita State is tied up with Cincy with 3 minutes to go. WSU needs to win their tourney to get into the NCAAT.
OOOPS - - that didn't happen lol
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Their legs are fine. These are 20-year olds. Iowa St has played 3 straight games too by the way. What they lack is effort and shooting ability.
That's what I was saying yesterday to - -at the radio when Haney was trying to talk about tired legs - -don't think he was fricking listening to me - -he kept saying oh could it be dead legs. - like you said Hell this was Iowa St's 3rd day in a row too
Soo if your going to try and blame this on tired legs - soo your saying Iowa St's conditioning is better then ours
- -their 3 straight day to - so that's got to be what your saying - - -Iowa St conditioning Coach better then ours seeing as how we got tired legs and Iowa St don't?
We have to much inconsistency - -long scoring droughts - ineffective shooting - - what was our 3 pt percentage yesterday - -might have a game of decent 3's then go 2-3 games where they couldn't make a 3 if their life depended on it. - Our loss wasn't because of tired legs - maybe part but in no way was that the reason