Kennedy Chandler is another going to visit for late Night this year - - 2021 PG - -visiting Oklahoma on the 28th of September - - Texas , Kentucky - - Duke & Memphis also interested

GTrey Alexander from Oaklahoma class of 2021 offer from ku

Forgot we had this thread.

@BeddieKU23 KU offered this kid from up in your neck of the woods https://247sports.com/Player/Alex-Tchikou-46083649/ ↗

@BShark

My buddy has been working with him for a bit. Really good athlete with a ton of potential. I would say his ranking is more based on potential then actual at this moment but he's getting there. He is going to keep his ear out on his recruitment now that the hawks offered

Kendall Brown is a name you really want to be paying attention to, imo.

Some things Kendall Brown had to say after his un-official visit at late night:

Brown said his visit was just crazy , Never seen anything like it before. He got there Friday had a chance to tour around a bit before late night - -Said Coach's told him what he needed to work on , stating he was a big guard playing on the wing 6'7 - -saying KU wanting him to be able to get out and run.

Taking his 1st official visit to Marquette on the weekend of ( 10-25 ) -Marquette really been recruiting him hard - - -he says he really likes Marquette a lot - - also wants to visit Maryland.

Other Schools that he is hearing from : Nebraska - - Arkansas - - -Gonzaga - - Baylor and others , looking to commit next year before School starts - -probably cut the list before beginning AAU.

As far as what he is looking for from his visits from a School: Relationships & where he will fit in the best - - Which School gives him the best opportunity to put him in the league - -& then looking for Coaching Relationship - - -Team Relationship and if the team feels at home for him. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

He s looking for Kansas in a school. :eyes:

BShark said:

He s looking for Kansas in a school. :zany_face:

Sure sounds like it to me::beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

BShark said:

Forgot we had this thread.

@BeddieKU23 KU offered this kid from up in your neck of the woods https://247sports.com/Player/Alex-Tchikou-46083649/ ↗

May end up in 20 class. My buddy texted me that the other day. I read it somewhere as well its a possibility. If its 20 don't expect KU

Kentucky signed another 5 star player, he may reclassify into 20 but for now is still a 21 recruit.

Almost as if there's a factory Calipari can visit and pick one off the line.

@BeddieKU23 Cal and Coach K are just on a different level

BeddieKU23 said:

Kentucky signed another 5 star player, he may reclassify into 20 but for now is still a 21 recruit.

Almost as if there's a factory Calipari can visit and pick one off the line.

ya Askew. - -it is just insane. - -wonder if this kid is related to Vincent Askew?

https://247sports.com/Player/Frank-Anselem-46055566/ ↗

KU has offered

Harrison Ingram looks like he could visit during the season. I wonder if KU tries to use the official visit here since he couldn't make Late Night.
Close with Tre White (22 commit). Coach T primary here

BeddieKU23 said:

Harrison Ingram looks like he could visit during the season. I wonder if KU tries to use the official visit here since he couldn't make Late Night.
Close with Tre White (22 commit). Coach T primary here

Reaaaal nice player. Not sure KU has a shot though.

Bossi watched possible 2021 reclass Tre White. Bossi Had this to say.

Ryan on the Phog also said that when he committed he would be surprised if Tre sticks and goes to KU. Time will tell.

"Ranked in the top 40 nationally, White is a power wing who has a big body and combines some bounce with power. What struck me most was his skill level. He did some things with the ball (stepbacks, hesitations, changes of pace and direction) that I'd not seen from him in the past and he shot the ball with confidence. He backed up his lofty national status."

BeddieKU23 said:

Bossi watched possible 2021 reclass Tre White. Bossi Had this to say.

Ryan on the Phog also said that when he committed he would be surprised if Tre sticks and goes to KU. Time will tell.

"Ranked in the top 40 nationally, White is a power wing who has a big body and combines some bounce with power. What struck me most was his skill level. He did some things with the ball (stepbacks, hesitations, changes of pace and direction) that I'd not seen from him in the past and he shot the ball with confidence. He backed up his lofty national status."

Man, I hope we can keep him. It has been a long while since we had a guy like that.

Kendall Brown. Don't forget the name.

@BShark Hard to forget my neighbor from the 80s! What’s that 44 year old cowboy up to? Lol wrong kb you say?!?

New offer. Self was in today. https://t.co/hbOLPbeWa5?amp=1 ↗

FarmerJayhawk said:

New offer. Self was in today. https://t.co/hbOLPbeWa5?amp=1 ↗

Been wondering if we would tbh.

Outside of Creighton grads Omaha is BIG RED country but they really don't care about hoops so I hope we can pull him.

I REALLY like Khristian Lander but I believe the NOA crap axed us there. He will end up at Indiana or Michigan depending on shoe bid I imagine.

BShark said:

Kendall Brown. Don't forget the name.

Would be nice to keep the top talent from Kansas in Kansas and preferably at KU.

@jhawk7782 not a Kansas kid fwiw. He is from Minnesota originally.

Not often that a good player (atleast not a highly rated one) comes out of Nebraska - snag, if we can. If memory serves wasn't TJ Pugh the last Nebraska kid to don a KU uniform?

Top _20 junior kendall Brown will be in the house for tonight game

Nothing wrong with that.

Visit going well. :eyes:

In addition to Kendall Brown, 2021 5 star Patrick Baldwin Jr was in attendance as well. Baldwin is the son of Milwaukee's coach. Top 5 player in the 21 class. His Crystal Ball is all Duke so far..

Also in attendance was Tamar Bates, 4 star Combo Guard out of Kansas City. 6'4 lefty has some game to him from some highlights I looked at. Can finish above the rim, looks like good length for a guard. Bates was also in attendance for Late Night. Bates has been active, been to K-St, Missouri, Nebraska, Oklahoma St (unofficial) and Creighton for an official. Nationally #114 ranked player. 247 has him ranked a bit higher at #93. So far no KU offer but that could change.

BShark said:

Visit going well. :eyes:

If he keeps showing up it makes you wonder..

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

Visit going well. :eyes:

If he keeps showing up it makes you wonder..

I have actual scoop on this one. I know the role he is being sold. Very solid chance here.

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

Visit going well. :eyes:

If he keeps showing up it makes you wonder..

I have actual scoop on this one. I know the role he is being sold. Very solid chance here.

I approve of this message

@BeddieKU23 I'll update when I can.

Norm watching Tamar Bates tonight.

@BShark

Interesting, 2 visits and now Norm is evaluating. Seems like KU making a move here. Another localish kid

@BeddieKU23 Yeah I'm wondering if the offer will come soon.

well read where Frank Anselem 6'10 out of California planning on visit to KU. - -Ranked the 57th player in the 2021 class

Along with KU the other 4 visits he is taking are : - -Oregon- - Alabama - -USC - -Arizona State ( notice a pattern of schools ? ) West Coast Area. - but who knows, anybody think there is a chance with this kid?

Broke down the Schools as far as KU , he said they know they are losing Doke , looing for that replacement and play Defense like him and defend the rim. - -we will see. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer73 LSU is in deeeeep with Anselem.

BShark said:

@jayballer73 LSU is in deeeeep with Anselem.

that's crazy cause according to the article they are not even one of his 5 visits

@jayballer73 Maybe things have changed. He's a really solid player, but I think Nike.

Hearing KU might be getting involved here: https://247sports.com/Player/Trey-Alexander-46049846/ ↗

@FarmerJayhawk maybe you've got more on this.

He went head to head against Bryce Friday night. Both dropped 33 in a win for Booker T (Bryce's school).

BShark said:

Hearing KU might be getting involved here: https://247sports.com/Player/Trey-Alexander-46049846/ ↗

@FarmerJayhawk maybe you've got more on this.

He went head to head against Bryce Friday night. Both dropped 33 in a win for Booker T (Bryce's school).

Targeting multiple guards in 21 in case Bryce is one and done due to sanctions or blowing up. Another one to watch https://247sports.com/player/hunter-sallis-46057844/ ↗

@FarmerJayhawk Sounds like we lead for Sallis.

BShark said:

@FarmerJayhawk Sounds like we lead for Sallis.

I’d agree in that assessment. Just based on who we’re targeting, sure seems like Self is committing to 4 smalls. We’re losing 3 bigs over the next couple classes and aren’t really replacing them. I’m 100% wrong on some of the specifics but looks like we’ll trot out Harris, Thompson, Brown, Enaruna, McCormack as the 21-22 group.

@FarmerJayhawk A four guard line-up with one guy that can shoot. I wouldn't complain with that starting 5 though.

BShark said:

@FarmerJayhawk A four guard line-up with one guy that can shoot. I wouldn't complain with that starting 5 though.

Just running through the concept. A lot has to shake out before we get a good idea of what it’ll look like.

We’re still 2 years out so they can certainly improve. Play Wilson or Braun over Brown if you need another shooter.

@BShark I think we'll land Sallis.

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I’d take both these kids

Woodrow said:

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I’d take both these kids

Need to look into the other kid but Brown is a Bill Self kid. Everything but a jumper and plays hard.

Woodrow said:

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I’d take both these kids

Brown has been here more times then any recruit in recent memory.

BeddieKU23 said:

Woodrow said:

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I’d take both these kids

Brown has been here more times then any recruit in recent memory.

If he goes elsewhere it won't be because KU didn't try very hard to land him. He's probably the top priority in the 21 class.

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I want to see Bates get a KU offer. Not based on this pic alone obviously, but daaaamn.

BShark said:

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I want to see Bates get a KU offer. Not based on this pic alone obviously, but daaaamn.

Bates tape was solid from what I saw. Certainly looked like a player on the rise. If they like him we should trust that

@BeddieKU23 Still no KU offer fwiw.

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 Still no KU offer fwiw.

Where does he play?

Marco said:

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 Still no KU offer fwiw.

Where does he play?

Kansas City, #115 ranked player right now. He should rise.

Hunter Sallis probably the top target at guard, certainly mutual interest there. Sallis is big time

BeddieKU23 said:

Marco said:

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 Still no KU offer fwiw.

Where does he play?

Kansas City, #115 ranked player right now. He should rise.

Hunter Sallis probably the top target at guard, certainly mutual interest there. Sallis is big time

Wow, Kansas City is turning into an absolute gold mine.

BeddieKU23 said:

Marco said:

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 Still no KU offer fwiw.

Where does he play?

Kansas City, #115 ranked player right now. He should rise.

Hunter Sallis probably the top target at guard, certainly mutual interest there. Sallis is big time

I think we have a solid shot with Sallis

jayballer73 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

Marco said:

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 Still no KU offer fwiw.

Where does he play?

Kansas City, #115 ranked player right now. He should rise.

Hunter Sallis probably the top target at guard, certainly mutual interest there. Sallis is big time

I think we have a solid shot with Sallis

I hope that we sign Sallis, he is a player!

Goodnight Jayhawk nation.

Piper High School.

Wonder how big this class will need to be.

BShark said:

Piper High School.

Wonder how big this class will need to be.

I see at least 4 spots open after next season. 5 if Thompson blows up and leaves (which I don't expect) but you never know. The kicker here is not knowing the NCAA's hammer. We may not have 4/5 spots to give out through restrictions or the opposite occurs and you see some guys leave due to whatever punishments get handed out. Going to be a war figuring this all out.

For sure leaving: Lightfoot, Silvio, Garrett

Maybe: Ochai, Thompson, Jossell

So I think 5 (+/- 1) is a solid number to think about.

FarmerJayhawk said:

For sure leaving: Lightfoot, Silvio, Garrett

Maybe: Ochai, Thompson, Jossell

So I think 5 (+/- 1) is a solid number to think about.

I could see a quick processing with Jossell as well.

I hope Thompson and Ochai stay of course.

Dream class is Kendall Brown, Hunter Sallis and a really good big. Probably super tough to pull Sallis if Garrett is the only guard we lose though. I want no part of the Zion Harmon circus.

Not sure what bigs we are realistically in on but we will need one at a minimum.

Read that we are One of Seven Schools recruiting this kid the hardest according to him.

Alex Tchikou a 6'11 power forward from Dream City Christian Arizona says : USC , Oregon , Arizona , Arizona State , Mississippi State , Baylor & KU are the hardest at recruiting him # 30 overall player in the class of 2021 and the # 8 ranked Power Forward.

Versatile player can score at all three levels - - shoots the 3 - -can bock shots. - Saying Schools likes how he can play all positions. Arizona came to watch him when he was playing the point.

Looking for a School that will allow him to show his skills I'm assuming at different positions. Said when it comes time to pick a school looking to see how he fits , says he is looking more for fit then even a name of a School. Looking for that School that will communicate with him. - - Out of France , says the biggest transition he has had to make from there to ball in the United States is the speed of the game.

What he had to say about KU : Said KU recruiting him made him proud, saying cause when he 1st got here all he heard was like KU - - Kentucky - -D uke - -the blue bloods. - Saying KU has had a lot of pro's and Big Names. Looking for the feel he gets for the Campus , the players and the Coach. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

BShark said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

For sure leaving: Lightfoot, Silvio, Garrett

Maybe: Ochai, Thompson, Jossell

So I think 5 (+/- 1) is a solid number to think about.

I could see a quick processing with Jossell as well.

I hope Thompson and Ochai stay of course.

Dream class is Kendall Brown, Hunter Sallis and a really good big. Probably super tough to pull Sallis if Garrett is the only guard we lose though. I want no part of the Zion Harmon circus.

Not sure what bigs we are realistically in on but we will need one at a minimum.

Jossell going pro, or him transferring? I would take that class in a heartbeat.

Transfer to d2. Maybe he shakes out, but certainly not a sure thing.

Not a 2021 kid, but does Bronny spend any time in college at his current trajectory?

dylans said:

Not a 2021 kid, but does Bronny spend any time in college at his current trajectory?

who is Bronny? - -haven't heard of him , but sounds like I should have. -- RIGHT ?

@jayballer73 Bronny James. LeBron’s kid

dylans said:

@jayballer73 Bronny James. LeBron’s kid

OH YA , chances are he will never touch a College floor

Sallis bumped to #20 overall, 5* on Rivals. Need.

FarmerJayhawk said:

Sallis bumped to #20 overall, 5* on Rivals. Need.

Wanted him since I saw the offer. Him and SO Bryce... Mercy...

Bout time the rankings started noticing him

@BShark Not often that a player like that comes out of Nebraska. How we can get him.

@dylans You know, I saw some highlights of him not too long ago on ESPN. Is it just me everyone, or does he seem to be not very athletic? Maybe it was just the small sample size.

@Marco Freshman? Able to dunk now (he wasn’t last year). Not super impressive yet; big time name recognition though.

@dylans Oh, no doubt about that.

@BShark

I like Jerrell Colbert for a 21 big

@BeddieKU23 We don't appear to be in that race.

BShark said:

@BeddieKU23 We don't appear to be in that race.

Yeah but I think its early for him too. I have no idea who the staff is actually recruiting in 21 for bigs besides Alex. It's a major need for at least 1 big time post

A few others that intrigue, Adama Sanogo 6'9 C playing for the Patrick School (NJ). Just recently got eligible for them and is really solid rebounder. Originally from Mali.

At the 4 spot I would love to see them target KJ Adams, he can shoot outside and get dirty in the post. That's if they miss on Brown.

BeddieKU23 said:

A few others that intrigue, Adama Sanogo 6'9 C playing for the Patrick School (NJ). Just recently got eligible for them and is really solid rebounder. Originally from Mali.

At the 4 spot I would love to see them target KJ Adams, he can shoot outside and get dirty in the post. That's if they miss on Brown.

Gotta land KB. Kinda all in there.

Don't think we have a shot with Sanogo. From what I understand, KU will not be landing another player from Mali.

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

A few others that intrigue, Adama Sanogo 6'9 C playing for the Patrick School (NJ). Just recently got eligible for them and is really solid rebounder. Originally from Mali.

At the 4 spot I would love to see them target KJ Adams, he can shoot outside and get dirty in the post. That's if they miss on Brown.

Gotta land KB. Kinda all in there.

Don't think we have a shot with Sanogo. From what I understand, KU will not be landing another player from Mali.

Funny how the Diallo story line went from us doing right by him and fighting for him to it just completely blowing up in our face.

We benched him. A top 5 player. Without living up to Self’s words about the value of playing time and experience for young players (Made after Diallo was here). I saw a comment in another thread about our ‘16 team being one of our biggest misses.

Imagine if Self just started and played Diallo 30 minutes beginning January 1? Let him learn, make mistakes, and grow as a player. Lucas was incredibly limited. And as predicted, Lucas was exposed and cost us (vs eventual champ Nova).

That decision was a fateful one.

If you watch Diallo now, whom I follow, he still is extremely talented, but not much improved. Sometimes doesn’t even play. He loves KU, comes back and went to Selfs HOF induction. I’m not a huge LL fan, in fact it kills me sometimes, but he has a hi bbiq. Wish we could inject that into diallo.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

If you watch Diallo now, whom I follow, he still is extremely talented, but not much improved. Sometimes doesn’t even play. He loves KU, comes back and went to Selfs HOF induction. I’m not a huge LL fan, in fact it kills me sometimes, but he has a hi bbiq. Wish we could inject that into diallo.

Yes Diallo himself likes Self/KU but he isn't the one preventing KU from signing any future players from Mali as long as Bill is here. Kids are often not in control.

@BShark Don’t forget KU spent tons to get him eligible too. Others weren’t touching that.

BShark said:

Crimsonorblue22 said:

If you watch Diallo now, whom I follow, he still is extremely talented, but not much improved. Sometimes doesn’t even play. He loves KU, comes back and went to Selfs HOF induction. I’m not a huge LL fan, in fact it kills me sometimes, but he has a hi bbiq. Wish we could inject that into diallo.

Yes Diallo himself likes Self/KU but he isn't the one preventing KU from signing any future players from Mali as long as Bill is here. Kids are often not in control.

Nike is in the human trafficking business, no doubt about it

@FarmerJayhawk It was surprising when we got Doke.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

@BShark Don’t forget KU spent tons to get him eligible too. Others weren’t touching that.

Which kind of started our problems, imo. Next came Preston and then De Sousa.

Bates got that KU offer!!!

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BShark said:

Bates got that KU offer!!!

Looks like the KC Connection is going to pay off again. Just looked at his game, and I'm impressed. If we can sign him now, do! That would leave Sallis to go elswhere, but oh well. I'm all on on signing KC and Wichita kids.

Heard Sallis isn’t super high on KU. Think we take Bates to play the Marcus Garrett spot and call it a day

@FarmerJayhawk KB, Bates and a ready to contribute big. I'd take it.

@FarmerJayhawk

That sucks. He is a stud.

Bates a quality player who I think will rise in the ranks

Interesting for a top 100 ish kid he doesn’t have very many offers

Woodrow said:

Interesting for a top 100 ish kid he doesn’t have very many offers

He just hit top 100. Up 32 spots in the last Rivals update.

Does seem like most of his offers are pretty local.

His posture kinda makes him look less assertive than you’d like, but his play is nice. I wonder if optics affected his offers. People are petty.

FarmerJayhawk said:

Heard Sallis isn’t super high on KU. Think we take Bates to play the Marcus Garrett spot and call it a day

Well Dam I love Sallis , think a very solid player - maybe we can get him to change his mind. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

FarmerJayhawk said:

Heard Sallis isn’t super high on KU. Think we take Bates to play the Marcus Garrett spot and call it a day

Do you know why he is not high on KU?

Hawk8086 said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

Heard Sallis isn’t super high on KU. Think we take Bates to play the Marcus Garrett spot and call it a day

Do you know why he is not high on KU?

Like a lot of Nebraska kids, grew up a dook fan

BShark said:

@FarmerJayhawk KB, Bates and a ready to contribute big. I'd take it.

Definitely need a big. Any skinny?

@FarmerJayhawk Wasn't T.J. Pugh the last Nebraska kid that we signed?

Kendall Brown is taking a OV to Ohio St

Woodrow said:

Kendall Brown is taking a OV to Ohio St

I'm not worried about Ohio State, but good intel. By the way, remember when they were top 5?

staff making a move for Bates after that offer? @FarmerJayhawk

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

staff making a move for Bates after that offer? @FarmerJayhawk

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@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

staff making a move for Bates after that offer? @FarmerJayhawk

Yessir

Great news. I like his game

https://247sports.com/Player/Matthew-Cleveland-46079396/ ↗

Bill is in Wichita tonight to see Gradey Dick.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

https://247sports.com/Player/Matthew-Cleveland-46079396/ ↗

He’s a really nice player. Did I miss the link to Kansas?

@BShark I've seen some hilites on sports of him, nothing to write home about. He's young though. I'm friends w/his uncle, just saw him fri, should've asked him. Probably see him at another hs game. See how that's going.

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Not sure if we've got a shot, but definitely kicking the tires.

@Crimsonorblue22 Seems like with the NCAA crap Bill is turning into Tom Izzo in recruiting. It is a ways off from the 22 class so who knows where his rank shakes out. We all thought Frankamp would be much better meanwhile Braun has well exceeded expectations. Ochai probably somewhere in the middle at this point but his defense is very good.

@BShark

Athletic kid, son of Dikembe

@BShark they did beat McPherson too. They are a lil down this yr though. Got beat 1st round of their own tourney, lol.

Well Zion was here for his visit and was in attendance for the game with Texas, showed a picture of him watching the game. - - - Said KU has made him a top priority. - -Taking his ACT on the 8th of Feb, sure sounds like if he passes he will be re-classifying. Talked about how Self told hi he Actually thought he was the best guard in the class - - hmmmmm.

Sounds like he really likes KU I dunno , we shall see. ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

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Officially offered

@FarmerJayhawk had to do it.

Markell Hood is taking a prep year and will be in the 21 class now. Hoping to play his way into better offers of course.

Zach Clemence wants to play in the big 12. Hope it's for the good guys.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

Zach Clemence wants to play in the big 12. Hope it's for the good guys.

I suspect we'll send Norm down to Sunrise to offer at some point. Need to check in on Brown while we're at it.

@FarmerJayhawk his jump shot is really concerning but I still hope he ends up at KU.

As for Clemence he is really smooth. Going to be a good four year player wherever he ends up.

Bates was at the game Monday

@FarmerJayhawk

Boom, that's great news

Also sounds like PG is the least of our concern in '21 recruiting. Harris has been really good according to Self.

@FarmerJayhawk

He mention that to the media?

Edit:

Saw his quotes on it, very promising.

@BeddieKU23 in yesterday's presser. I think he's really going to show out next year and could see him playing starter's minutes.

@FarmerJayhawk

Recently I went back through his film. He is going to surprise folks. I really like what he could become in time.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Also sounds like PG is the least of our concern in '21 recruiting. Harris has been really good according to Self.

Noticed we aren't going after any. Bates is a do it all guard, then wings and bigs.

Re Bates: things could progress rapidly here. Look for something soon, not necessarily a commitment maybe just a list cut at this point but soon.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Also sounds like PG is the least of our concern in '21 recruiting. Harris has been really good according to Self.

Seems to be conflicting reports , cause that's sure not what I'm hearing. - -I heard that they are all over Zion making him a priority

@jayballer73 KU isn't really recruiting Zion Harmon. Seton Hall or Maryland. I'll eat my hat if he ends up at KU. He might not play a second of college ball period.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@jayballer73 KU isn't really recruiting Zion Harmon. Seton Hall or Maryland. I'll eat my hat if he ends up at KU. He might not play a second of college ball period.

Not trying to start conflict BUT that's really weird that coming of sports sites they say that Coach Self has told him that he is they're top priority and Saying he is probably the best guard coming in and then others like yourself saying they not even recruiting him - - hmmmm why would they say something like that if not true ? - -personally I could give a rats ass cause I think we are already set , just simply passing along information I have seen elsewhere

@jayballer73 Ask the sage @FarmerJayhawk

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@jayballer73 Ask the sage @FarmerJayhawk

na that's ok - - like I said before just going off other sports sites but thanks anyways it's all good, just passing along info I had read didn't realize other people couldn't do that, guess we can only go off one source though I'll remember next time sorry

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@jayballer73 Ask the sage @FarmerJayhawk

Oh boy if I’m the sage we’re in deep dog turds.

We’d rather have Harmon in 20, but I don’t think we’re a serious option. That’s a sandbox we’re not really throwing our model John Deere tractors in at this time.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

Zach Clemence wants to play in the big 12. Hope it's for the good guys.

Got a chance to look at him, his game against Hillcrest recently. Can really shoot it and stretch the floor for a 6'9 guy. A beanpole big needs a lot of work in the S&C room. Wouldn't be a bad take but I wonder on fit.

Hey Guys HI it's me, mercy what a deal THAT was. - -This is me Jayballer 73 now Jayballer 72 lol. - -I was having problems, when I went to read a post and click on it a lot of times I would start like way back from a couple of months back and have to scroll forever to get to the present post.

So people was trying to help me figure things out and was suggested to log out and then log back in.- -Well I did that and low and behold I couldn't recover my old password - -nobody's fault - - -wel actually it was MY FAULT. - -Soooo had to re-registar make a whole new user name roflmao - - -what a mess - -but I'm back - - rock chalk all day long baby

@Jayballer72 You gave up over 5000 posts (if you're counting) of reputation? Just go back and re-log in with your old @jayballer73 nickname/password and you should be good. Otherwise, I will soon overtake you on the post count. Bwawahwawawahawawwagarglelllll cough cough

Seriously, some of the recruitment threads need to restart. Anything over 300 posts years old don't load for me reliably also.

Wait, I was only two posts behind.

We're tied!

I'm ahead of @jayballer73. Coming at you @Crimsonorblue22
(Holy crap. Might take a while)

@DanR said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Jayballer72 You gave up over 5000 posts (if you're counting) of reputation? Just go back and re-log in with your old @jayballer73 nickname/password and you should be good. Otherwise, I will soon overtake you on the post count. Bwawahwawawahawawwagarglelllll cough cough

Seriously, some of the recruitment threads need to restart. Anything over 300 posts years old don't load for me reliably also.

Lmao - probably that reputation be put to bed anyways lol , got a feel that people hre didn't necessarily like that one to much - -still gonna have to try with this one - - wish me luck lol

@Jayballer72 We liked the old guy. But it's your choice: ROck ChalK!

@DanR Dont kid yourself, @jayballer54 + @jayballer73 has got you cooked.

@DanR said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Jayballer72 We liked the old guy. But it's your choice: ROck ChalK!

ROCK CHALK MY FRIEND

@Jayballer72 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@DanR said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Jayballer72 We liked the old guy. But it's your choice: ROck ChalK!

ROCK CHALK MY FRIEND

Crap now I have to learn your new photo 😂. Glad you’re sticking with us my dude

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Jayballer72 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@DanR said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Jayballer72 We liked the old guy. But it's your choice: ROck ChalK!

ROCK CHALK MY FRIEND

Crap now I have to learn your new photo 😂. Glad you’re sticking with us my dude

lol sorry I just flat screwed up - -not even sure how - now have to re-establish lol, thanks buddy enjoy being here

Hey Dan & Farmer - - - got my old jayballer 73 back thanks to approx. so Dan you best keep posting buddy I'm right on your heels lmao - - keeping my old reputation too I know - - I know people glad to hear that lmao - - -ROC CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Got a buddy around the Sunrise program and he says KB's jump shot might be even worse than Marc G. :thinking_face:

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

Got a buddy around the Sunrise program and he says KB's jump shot might be even worse than Marc G. :thinking_face:

Just looking at it on video makes me cringe. He can play though and is an excellent athlete and has a good feel for the game

@DanR said in 2021 Recruiting:

I'm ahead of @jayballer73. Coming at you @Crimsonorblue22
(Holy crap. Might take a while)

Hey Dan I'm Baccccccccccccccccck. - -you better get posting buddy lmao

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

Got a buddy around the Sunrise program and he says KB's jump shot might be even worse than Marc G. :thinking_face:

OH LORD - Say it isn't so Joe lol

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

Got a buddy around the Sunrise program and he says KB's jump shot might be even worse than Marc G. :thinking_face:

Just looking at it on video makes me cringe. He can play though and is an excellent athlete and has a good feel for the game

Hope we have an ample supply of back boards if he gonna be chucking up bricks

@jayballer73

Plays on a loaded team at Sunrise. Brown doesn't force shots up and its not a broken jumper he can make them just not an Isiah Moss looking shot. His athletic ability though is elite and he will impact the game on both ends

Bill Self lab player like Garrett. My buddy also says he needs and would thrive under Bill.

@BShark

Bingo, that sunrise team running offense that prepares you for college so his learning curve is going to be shorter plus the fact he is a fantastic athlete and plays within a team well. I see him fitting like a glove, of course contingent on him committing.

I'm also coming around to Clemence as a take. He has improved a lot from mixtape season. That Hillcrest beat down showed he was going to be good in time in College

@DanR said in 2021 Recruiting:

I'm ahead of @jayballer73. Coming at you @Crimsonorblue22
(Holy crap. Might take a while)

Damn, I have a long ways to go... Need to start pissing people off again, and keep replying to their posts. Gotta do something, at present it says that my reputation is a solid zero.

@approxinfinity said in 2021 Recruiting:

@DanR Dont kid yourself, @jayballer54 + @jayballer73 has got you cooked.

lmao - - - get him approxinfinity - - tell him I'm still here Dan lol - -you better get moving lol. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@Marco said in 2021 Recruiting:

@DanR said in 2021 Recruiting:

I'm ahead of @jayballer73. Coming at you @Crimsonorblue22
(Holy crap. Might take a while)

Damn, I have a long ways to go... Need to start pissing people off again, and keep replying to their posts. Gotta do something, at present it says that my reputation is a solid zero.

Lmao - hell my reputation is at a DefCon -5 lmao

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@Woodrow said in 2021 Recruiting:

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Yeah, Bill is gonna put the hammer down.

Staff was out today. Self checked in on Kennedy Chandler and went to see Bryce. Other members of the coaching staff were up in Nebraska watching Sallis and Williams.

@BShark

UNC among many others wants Chandler.

@BeddieKU23 not one I would figure KU to get.

@BShark

I agree we are window dressing in that sandbox

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 not one I would figure KU to get.

FSU positioned themselves real deep after his official there over the weekend.

21 should be a fairly light year. The vast majority of the rotation is either signed or on the roster:
Harris, Thompson, Braun, Enaruna, McCormack

Wilson, TGF, Gethro. If we get Sallis, Brown, and a big we’re really cooking with gas.

@FarmerJayhawk Yeah in theory we only have 3 scholarships coming off the books (Mitch, Silvio, Garrett) and not a huge need for immediate impact.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

21 should be a fairly light year. The vast majority of the rotation is either signed or on the roster:
Harris, Thompson, Braun, Enaruna, McCormack

Wilson, TGF, Gethro. If we get Sallis, Brown, and a big we’re really cooking with gas.

Not expecting Ochai a 4th year?

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

21 should be a fairly light year. The vast majority of the rotation is either signed or on the roster:
Harris, Thompson, Braun, Enaruna, McCormack

Wilson, TGF, Gethro. If we get Sallis, Brown, and a big we’re really cooking with gas.

Not expecting Ochai a 4th year?

Oops I knew I'd forget someone. My feeling is no but haven't heard anything either way. Pretty sure it's not on Ochai's radar yet.

He's on mine, to stay! I think his parents value an education too. He would have to be a guaranteed 1st rounder, imo

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Gradey dick

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

21 should be a fairly light year. The vast majority of the rotation is either signed or on the roster:
Harris, Thompson, Braun, Enaruna, McCormack

Wilson, TGF, Gethro. If we get Sallis, Brown, and a big we’re really cooking with gas.

Not expecting Ochai a 4th year?

Oops I knew I'd forget someone. My feeling is no but haven't heard anything either way. Pretty sure it's not on Ochai's radar yet.

No prob. I certainly can see a scenario he left after his Jr year but we'll see I suspect we might be able to workout a deal for that final season..

Reading from Evan Daniels on Kendall Brown says : That Kendall going to take official visit to Ohio State this weekend, who has been aggressively recruiting him. Minnesota and Pitino was in to see him last night , Iowa State was in to visit with him , and visited KU last week and said that Kendall had been to KU a few other times. He has taken a recent trip to Marquette. - - -Virginia & Maryland and some others also involved. To early to handicap a leader but that Kendall seems to be stat taking things more seriously.

Evan also had another player he talked about , which Ku was involved with he is the #6 player Michael Foster. Evan says : - -there had been some talk about Foster re-classifying , but his mentor Chiante Clay says as of today that's very unlikely.

Foster was taking an un-official today to Marquette - - - -Oregon , KU & Illinois actively trying to get him on Campus for visits.

Foster is an elite talent, we would be fortunate there...

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

Foster is an elitentalent, we would be fortunate there...

Saw his game against Sunrise. Talent is evident for his size but he's for the better term of the word a bad shot taker. I saw a lot of I in Team if ya know what I mean..

Zach Clemence moved up to #39 in the latest update.

Kendall Brown #17

I don't think with the current landscape KU will be sniffing any of the Top 15 guys.

Bates holding just outside the Top 100. I think he ultimately moves up a bit over the next year.

Sallis visiting Wednesday

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Sallis visiting Wednesday

That's a nice monday update

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Sallis visiting Wednesday

Hearing Donovan might be there as well. Are they particularly close? I think I'd take Donovan if it meant landing Sallis.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Sallis visiting Wednesday

Hearing Donovan might be there as well. Are they particularly close? I think I'd take Donovan if it meant landing Sallis.

I think friendly but not super close. I do think there’s a possibility we medical Jossell to open a spot. Took a flier, he got hurt, didn’t really develop, but there will be the KU bump in interest if they go that route. A big would be a higher priority than Williams at this point. If Prohm gets canned maybe Foster is back in play? #SpringBill

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Sallis visiting Wednesday

Saw a headline where Foster wants to find out more about KU too

When cheating happens right in front of ya nose and nothing is being done about it.

https://247sports.com/college/florida-state/Article/Jon-Kuminga-Georgia-Unofficial-Visit-144561841/ ↗

Anthony Edwards and possibly him? I'm sure winning a dozen games and doing nothing in March is fun..

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

When cheating happens right in front of ya nose and nothing is being done about it.

https://247sports.com/college/florida-state/Article/Jon-Kuminga-Georgia-Unofficial-Visit-144561841/ ↗

Anthony Edwards and possibly him? I'm sure winning a dozen games and doing nothing in March is fun..

Heh, that's hilarious. Pretty obvious Kuminga is an auction. LSU was the frontrunner for a bit, now UGA in the picture. UK and dook still there too.

Ku has offer 2021 f kj Adams from Westlake tx

Our boy Tamar had a heck of a year 🐦 View Tweet?s=21

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Our boy Tamar had a heck of a year 🐦 View Tweet?s=21

So good, hope he will be a Jayhawk.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Our boy Tamar had a heck of a year 🐦 View Tweet?s=21

So good, hope he will be a Jayhawk.

I think a matter of when

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Our boy Tamar had a heck of a year 🐦 View Tweet?s=21

So good, hope he will be a Jayhawk.

whats his national rank - -do you know?

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Our boy Tamar had a heck of a year 🐦 View Tweet?s=21

So good, hope he will be a Jayhawk.

whats his national rank - -do you know?

Right around 100. I think that will go up eventually. Either way, I think he's a really solid player but won't scare off a guy like Sallis.

Recruiting shut down by the NCAA.

@dylans pretty clear the 2020 class was impacted

@BShark and '21 guys who wanted to take OV's after their seasons were over since juniors can take 5 OV's now.

Slick Rick Stansbury gets his man, Zion Harmon

@FarmerJayhawk good

Does anyone know if we have ANY interest in the other Lawson boy? - - He is off 247 the # 88 player in the Nation. - -Just looking and showed he was like at 50% on the ol CB. - -Just Curious. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

Does anyone know if we have ANY interest in the other Lawson boy? - - He is off 247 the # 88 player in the Nation. - -Just looking and showed he was like at 50% on the ol CB. - -Just Curious. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Notta

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Slick Rick Stansbury gets his man, Zion Harmon

The ol greasy wheel strikes again

The Lawson experiment/relationship appears to be quite over.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

The Lawson experiment/relationship appears to be quite over.

Ok , thanks for the info, I really had no idea where any of that was at, I'm sure Coach will be just fine. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

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@FarmerJayhawk Even corky is going there lol.

New offer https://247sports.com/Player/Isaiah-Barnes-46085899/ ↗

@FarmerJayhawk late riser?

@BShark Hopefully more that than a sign of the times.

Hmm. 20 ppg on 45% trey ball in Chicago not too shabby tabby.

@BShark I guess Self meant it when he said they weren’t paying attention to ranking services anymore. Funny ‘cause they just react to the blue bloods recruiting in cases like this. Bet he ends up ranked if KU signs him.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk late riser?

Illinois is hard on him. Underwood can really identify talent. 3 and D type wing

Doesn't mean he isn't a good player, but he plays at a relatively weak basketball school and plays in a relatively weak conference. I pay fairly close attention to HS hoops around here and have not heard of him. Again, not something to draw conclusions on, but I'd be skeptical about his future in high level hoops.

@wissox I’m assuming you are not in class?

@Crimsonorblue22 No, not in class.

@wissox your kids have access to laptops or computers, WiFi?

Another offer https://247sports.com/Player/Franck-Kepnang-46055226/ ↗
Don't expect this to really go anywhere. KU and PSA Cardinals aren't exactly tight.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Another offer https://247sports.com/Player/Franck-Kepnang-46055226/ ↗
Don't expect this to really go anywhere. KU and PSA Cardinals aren't exactly tight.

Can't imagine getting a kid from psa as long as Bill is the coach.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Another offer https://247sports.com/Player/Franck-Kepnang-46055226/ ↗
Don't expect this to really go anywhere. KU and PSA Cardinals aren't exactly tight.

Can't imagine getting a kid from psa as long as Bill is the coach.

Never say never you never know what Bill self can do

https://247sports.com/Player/Micawber-Etienne-46082252/ ↗

Offer might be coming here.

Looks like Bill was ahead of the curve on Isaiah Barnes. Offers flowing in now TCU, Iowa, Maryland. Iowa, Illinois, KU and Maryland expected to get OVs.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

https://247sports.com/Player/Micawber-Etienne-46082252/ ↗

Offer might be coming here.

PSA Cardinals..

@wissox I looked at some of Barnes' play on youtube and I must say I don't exactly see it either. Trust in Bill I guess.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

https://247sports.com/Player/Micawber-Etienne-46082252/ ↗

Offer might be coming here.

PSA Cardinals..

Could have picked a better AAU program to piss off tbh...

Could of already been posted just didn't see. Read where KU ha offered top 25 Guard Langston Love. Said pure shooter , yet something to the effect really not a good distributor to others? - -something along those lines. - - Talking about how Ku hasn't really had a pure shooter although the development of Braun , talking though about how he would be a big Addition to compliment Braun , love his toughness and how well he rebounds for his size 6'4. - Defends well and would also compliment Garrett . Some of the others involved think they said about 70 % of the Big 12 UCLA, and I think Villanova are some of the others. ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer73

Thompson is a pure shooter so the article is pure BS

@BeddieKU23 also Garrett wouldn't be around to play with him so it doesn't matter how he compliments Garrett. Don't think we get him anyway.

@BShark The guard I would love to pair with Thompson potentially in 21 is Kennedy Chandler. Played with Mokan and is very good. However I think his recruitment is just not the rabbit hole KU can contend in right now.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@jayballer73

Thompson is a pure shooter so the article is pure BS

So what you think of Langston Love

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark The guard I would love to pair with Thompson potentially in 21 is Kennedy Chandler. Played with Mokan and is very good. However I think his recruitment is just not the rabbit hole KU can contend in right now.

Think KK goes to Memphis or Duke.

Sallis is definitely the top priority in 21. I'm concerned about what we're doing up front because we'll need at least 2 bigs and I'm not sure we're leading for any as of today. But lots to shake out given these strange times. Info has basically dried up since nobody's taking visits and its a long dead period.

@jayballer73

Oh he's a stud, reminds me of Ochai with the athleticism, college ready body & the shooting touch from the perimeter. Have no clue if KU can land anyone from Montverde. Seems like a school we just can't compete with Nike for

@FarmerJayhawk

I think FSU is in it for Chandler as well. I would expect he $woosh's when its all said and done. Really liked his game and he was really good at Peach Jam playing alongside Harris & Dante.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark The guard I would love to pair with Thompson potentially in 21 is Kennedy Chandler. Played with Mokan and is very good. However I think his recruitment is just not the rabbit hole KU can contend in right now.

Think KK goes to Memphis or Duke.

Sallis is definitely the top priority in 21. I'm concerned about what we're doing up front because we'll need at least 2 bigs and I'm not sure we're leading for any as of today. But lots to shake out given these strange times. Info has basically dried up since nobody's taking visits and its a long dead period.

We are pretty much not getting Kendall Brown either from what I understand. I believe he was Adidas AAU but Sunrise being funded by Nike probably killed us. Virginia is a player here despite not being listed on his 247 profile.

As for bigs like you said it's harder to get info now. Guessing we can't beat out OG Wade for Anselem. I just haven't seen KU linked with many post players in 21.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark The guard I would love to pair with Thompson potentially in 21 is Kennedy Chandler. Played with Mokan and is very good. However I think his recruitment is just not the rabbit hole KU can contend in right now.

Think KK goes to Memphis or Duke.

Sallis is definitely the top priority in 21. I'm concerned about what we're doing up front because we'll need at least 2 bigs and I'm not sure we're leading for any as of today. But lots to shake out given these strange times. Info has basically dried up since nobody's taking visits and its a long dead period.

We are pretty much not getting Kendall Brown either from what I understand. I believe he was Adidas AAU but Sunrise being funded by Nike probably killed us. Virginia is a player here despite not being listed on his 247 profile.

As for bigs like you said it's harder to get info now. Guessing we can't beat out OG Wade for Anselem. I just haven't seen KU linked with many post players in 21.

I'm not super worried about the wing, though Brown is a good player. If we have Wilson, Enaruan, and Tyon we'll be fine. Even if Tyon leaves for some reason we'll have Braun as well. Much more concerned about bigs.

@FarmerJayhawk I'm not worried about the wing at all just wanted to pass it along.

It's worrisome but we know Bill will find some guys. Obviously we can't go into a season with Dave and Gethro as the only bigs.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark The guard I would love to pair with Thompson potentially in 21 is Kennedy Chandler. Played with Mokan and is very good. However I think his recruitment is just not the rabbit hole KU can contend in right now.

Think KK goes to Memphis or Duke.

Sallis is definitely the top priority in 21. I'm concerned about what we're doing up front because we'll need at least 2 bigs and I'm not sure we're leading for any as of today. But lots to shake out given these strange times. Info has basically dried up since nobody's taking visits and its a long dead period.

We are pretty much not getting Kendall Brown either from what I understand. I believe he was Adidas AAU but Sunrise being funded by Nike probably killed us. Virginia is a player here despite not being listed on his 247 profile.

As for bigs like you said it's harder to get info now. Guessing we can't beat out OG Wade for Anselem. I just haven't seen KU linked with many post players in 21.

Thought you posted some time back that Brown was our's to lose?

@jayballer73 We were in a strong position previously, yes.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@jayballer73 We were in a strong position previously, yes.

So what happened? - - what changed ?

@BShark wasn’t KU seen as the leader for Brown though for quite awhile?

@Woodrow said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark wasn’t KU seen as the leader for Brown though for quite awhile?

Yeah I'm not sure what happened just relaying.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

https://247sports.com/Player/Micawber-Etienne-46082252/ ↗

Offer might be coming here.

PSA Cardinals..

Could have picked a better AAU program to piss off tbh...

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And there is the offer.

@BShark

Nothing lost by offering. Have no idea what bigs we are getting in 21 just know we need multiple guys

may have missed this but just curious. Do we have any interest in this kid or not, don't remember much being said. - -Zach Clemence out of Sunrise in Wichita, 6'9 I think got him ranked as 34th, anybody got anything or is this a BIG nobody from us with no interest what so ever. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

may have missed this but just curious. Do we have any interest in this kid or not, don't remember much being said. - -Zach Clemence out of Sunrise in Wichita, 6'9 I think got him ranked as 34th, anybody got anything or is this a BIG nobody from us with no interest what so ever. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

As far as I know KU has major interest.

Check posts earlier in the thread. Searching for Clemence is the easiest way, stuff comes right up. Right now we don't really know as much as we otherwise would because of the COVID situation. Guys can't do visits, coaches can't either etc

Post targets will become clear eventually.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

may have missed this but just curious. Do we have any interest in this kid or not, don't remember much being said. - -Zach Clemence out of Sunrise in Wichita, 6'9 I think got him ranked as 34th, anybody got anything or is this a BIG nobody from us with no interest what so ever. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

As far as I know KU has major interest.

ok thanks.- -wonder if the interest is mutual ?

@jayballer73 @BShark

Rivals had an article 2 weeks ago about Zach and KU. Since Shay wrote it I would gather he doesn't have anything ground breaking to report there but its behind the Rivals paywall..

To kind of recap with him. KU was there when he won MVP at Hoophall in January. We were also one of the first schools to reach out as was most of the Big-12. He was at Late Night this past year.

Ohio St recently offered and he's on their board now. They are also recruiting Kendall Brown his teammate as well.

New offer! I like this kid's game a lot. Very, very skilled https://247sports.com/Player/Efton-Reid-46055252 ↗

@FarmerJayhawk looks goooood. We have a shot?

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk looks goooood. We have a shot?

Too early to say. Need to get him on the phone with Dave and sell him on the twin towers of Virginia

His evaluation sounded like dave

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk looks goooood. We have a shot?

Too early to say. Need to get him on the phone with Dave and sell him on the twin towers of Virginia

Just noticed he plays for Team Loaded (same as Frank and Dave). Let's get it done!

UNC offered Sallis. That could be a game changer. Also, Reid could reclassify and if he does I’m thinking UVA or Louisville.

sounds about right

@BeddieKU23 You know the drill !alt text ↗

@BShark

Honestly forgot we were targeting Salis. Not a sandbox we can play in.

Another one https://247sports.com/Player/JD-Davison-46059105/ ↗

@FarmerJayhawk does not look winnable

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk does not look winnable

It looks like, as @jayballer73 astutely pointed out in the 22 thread, we’re going after a different type of guy these days. I think Bill saw what he had last year and was like OH. This could be fun.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk does not look winnable

It looks like, as @jayballer73 astutely pointed out in the 22 thread, we’re going after a different type of guy these days. I think Bill saw what he had last year and was like OH. This could be fun.

And with OAD all but officially over with the new G League contracts it makes sense. We'll still get our Bryce Thompson's and others, but as far as top 10 recruits go I say steer clear. Build the bench and solidify the starting 5 with KC players and the occasional Wichita recruit, as well as adding nationwide ones such as Frank and Devonte (Gethro fitting that mold for next season).

@Marco said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk does not look winnable

It looks like, as @jayballer73 astutely pointed out in the 22 thread, we’re going after a different type of guy these days. I think Bill saw what he had last year and was like OH. This could be fun.

And with OAD all but officially over with the new G League contracts it makes sense. We'll still get our Bryce Thompson's and others, but as far as top 10 recruits go I say steer clear. Build the bench and solidify the starting 5 with KC players and the occasional Wichita recruit, as well as adding nationwide ones such as Frank and Devonte (Gethro fitting that mold for next season).

There's not enough local talent to keep KU competitive at a national level. KU would have to land every local player to have any chance at being competitive which isn't going to happen as long as MoKan is the dominant AAU team in the area.

KU lands a local talent every other year on average with varying degrees of success.

KU is a national brand in basketball and with the new rules on players selling themselves, KU needs to market the exposure a potential recruit can get at KU to land top players.

Looks like we offered Dajuan Harris's twin bro https://247sports.com/Player/Rahsool-Diggins-46056543/ ↗

@FarmerJayhawk looks solid.

Staff apparently did video visits with Brown and Bates today.

Mercy Coach Self & Staff REALLY BUSY this week. 5 offers going out since Wednsday. 3 offers to 2021 PG'S & 2 offers to the class of 2022 PF'S

KU offered to as been mentioned Rahsaal Diggins # 8 Pg & # 56 overall out of Wood Point.

Other offers include : DePaul , Miss St , St Joe , Virg Tech , U Conn , Fla , LaSalle , Penn St , Rutgers , Seton Hall , Xavier plus others.

Think might of been mentioned but have also offered this week JD Davidson , # 3 pg and # 19 overall.

Other offers include : Arizona , Alabama , Auburn , Memphis , Miss St , Ol Miss , & UNLV

Then the last PG offered this week is - - Nolan Hickman , other offers include : Oklahoma , Wasahington , Washington St , & Cal Poly. - he is out of East Catholic Washington. - - Staff been really really busy. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

KU has offered Daimion Collins a 6'8 180 lb PF out of Texas has 16 offers at the moment, - -They are saying Texas may be the team to beat for him. Ranked # 22 in the Nation - Offers include : KU , Arkansas , LSU , USC ,

Tamar Bates from Piper is transferring to IMG for next year.

@Woodrow said in 2021 Recruiting:

Tamar Bates from Piper is transferring to IMG for next year.

Welp. We have seen that sandbox play out

@BeddieKU23 we have landed guys from IMG. Could be a good move.

I love it for Tamar. Don't really think it hurts our chances. If it was Sallis I'd be like oh ish

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 we have landed guys from IMG. Could be a good move.

KU has landed 2 recruits straight out of IMG. Both of them have been issues for KU in regards to eligibility. Jamari Taylor was academically ineligible his first year at KU and Silvio DeSousa's suspension was originally 2 years and KU's probably going to end up forfeiting its 2018 Final Four banner because of DeSousa.

Not exactly a great track record of IMG players at KU.

Kansas just got a commitment from the class of 2021 Zachary clemence out of Sunrise Christian Academy out of Wichita Kansas hes Height is 6'10 205 lbs pf

RCJH

Very nice pickup for Bill and the staff. Kid has been on the come up in the rankings. Hopefully this helps with Brown as well, and opens the door for KU at Sunrise.

@Woodrow said in 2021 Recruiting:

Very nice pickup for Bill and the staff. Kid has been on the come up in the rankings. Hopefully this helps with Brown as well, and opens the door for KU at Sunrise.

It likely will

@Woodrow said in 2021 Recruiting:

Very nice pickup for Bill and the staff. Kid has been on the come up in the rankings. Hopefully this helps with Brown as well, and opens the door for KU at Sunrise.

He is very skilled and should be around multiple years. Love this commitment. Needed a big badly too.

WOW. Huge commitment out of left field..Zach has upped his game tremendously in the past year at Sunrise. Think Matthew Hurt in terms of comparison. Can really shoot the ball from the perimeter at his size. Watched Several Sunrise games this past season and came away impressed with his ability.

Hearing things have improved with KB as well. Great day for crootin.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

Hearing things have improved with KB as well. Great day for crootin.

Nice! Grabbing his teammate can't hurt there either..

Well that came out of nowhere. Niiiice.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Marco said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk does not look winnable

It looks like, as @jayballer73 astutely pointed out in the 22 thread, we’re going after a different type of guy these days. I think Bill saw what he had last year and was like OH. This could be fun.

And with OAD all but officially over with the new G League contracts it makes sense. We'll still get our Bryce Thompson's and others, but as far as top 10 recruits go I say steer clear. Build the bench and solidify the starting 5 with KC players and the occasional Wichita recruit, as well as adding nationwide ones such as Frank and Devonte (Gethro fitting that mold for next season).

There's not enough local talent to keep KU competitive at a national level. KU would have to land every local player to have any chance at being competitive which isn't going to happen as long as MoKan is the dominant AAU team in the area.

KU lands a local talent every other year on average with varying degrees of success.

KU is a national brand in basketball and with the new rules on players selling themselves, KU needs to market the exposure a potential recruit can get at KU to land top players.

Why do you say Mokan being the dominant AAU team in KC is a detriment to KU? KU has 3 Mokan players now. Do you know of any high profile players at Mokan now that we are/should be recruiting?

@hawkfan01 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Marco said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk does not look winnable

It looks like, as @jayballer73 astutely pointed out in the 22 thread, we’re going after a different type of guy these days. I think Bill saw what he had last year and was like OH. This could be fun.

And with OAD all but officially over with the new G League contracts it makes sense. We'll still get our Bryce Thompson's and others, but as far as top 10 recruits go I say steer clear. Build the bench and solidify the starting 5 with KC players and the occasional Wichita recruit, as well as adding nationwide ones such as Frank and Devonte (Gethro fitting that mold for next season).

There's not enough local talent to keep KU competitive at a national level. KU would have to land every local player to have any chance at being competitive which isn't going to happen as long as MoKan is the dominant AAU team in the area.

KU lands a local talent every other year on average with varying degrees of success.

KU is a national brand in basketball and with the new rules on players selling themselves, KU needs to market the exposure a potential recruit can get at KU to land top players.

Why do you say Mokan being the dominant AAU team in KC is a detriment to KU? KU has 3 Mokan players now. Do you know of any high profile players at Mokan now that we are/should be recruiting?

Kennedy Chandler, but we can't play in that sandbox and his focus is on swooosh.

@hawkfan01 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Marco said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk does not look winnable

It looks like, as @jayballer73 astutely pointed out in the 22 thread, we’re going after a different type of guy these days. I think Bill saw what he had last year and was like OH. This could be fun.

And with OAD all but officially over with the new G League contracts it makes sense. We'll still get our Bryce Thompson's and others, but as far as top 10 recruits go I say steer clear. Build the bench and solidify the starting 5 with KC players and the occasional Wichita recruit, as well as adding nationwide ones such as Frank and Devonte (Gethro fitting that mold for next season).

There's not enough local talent to keep KU competitive at a national level. KU would have to land every local player to have any chance at being competitive which isn't going to happen as long as MoKan is the dominant AAU team in the area.

KU lands a local talent every other year on average with varying degrees of success.

KU is a national brand in basketball and with the new rules on players selling themselves, KU needs to market the exposure a potential recruit can get at KU to land top players.

Why do you say Mokan being the dominant AAU team in KC is a detriment to KU? KU has 3 Mokan players now. Do you know of any high profile players at Mokan now that we are/should be recruiting?

MoKan is a top Nike AAU program and they tend to funnel their top prospects to Nike programs. The general lack of interest from their elite recruits in KU is evidence of that. Trae Young is their only elite recruit that's ever seriously considered coming to KU and he still ended up at Oklahoma. KU generally recruits MoKan's top prospects, interest has generally not been reciprocated because MoKan is a top Nike AAU program and KU is not a Nike school.

Ochai Agbaji was the first MoKan player to ever commit to KU. None of the 3 players KU has landed were highly regarded. Harris who was barely a top 100 player is the highest rated of those players.

Bates, Sallis, Brown, Clemence. Call it a class. Add a big if an additional spot comes open.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Bates, Sallis, Brown, Clemence. Call it a class. Add a big if an additional spot comes open.

lol, I guess if your going to dream - - you might as well dream big. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in 2021 Recruiting:

Kansas just got a commitment from the class of 2021 Zachary clemence out of Sunrise Christian Academy out of Wichita Kansas hes Height is 6'10 205 lbs pf

SWEEEEEEET ! ! ! = =good to see - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

WOW. Huge commitment out of left field..Zach has upped his game tremendously in the past year at Sunrise. Think Matthew Hurt in terms of comparison. Can really shoot the ball from the perimeter at his size. Watched Several Sunrise games this past season and came away impressed with his ability.

Well that sounds really good to me. - -Things had been really dead for us , now if like people have been saying if this helps us even more with Brown , will be huge. Love it when we can get a big man that can stroke the ball. - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Relaying some info here from a friend at Sunrise. Zach is a tireless worker, in the gym all the time doing shooting drills.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

Zach Clemence wants to play in the big 12. Hope it's for the good guys.

Spoiler: it is.

http://m.kusports.com/news/2020/may/11/kansas-basketball-lands-commitment-4-star-forward-/ ↗

😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

@BShark finally good news!

@Crimsonorblue22 love some of the quotes there. Sounds like Zach was at KU games when he was 10 or 11 years old.

In lol news, we did not make eventual Duke player Pat Baldwin JR's top 10. I believe the entire top 10 is Nike, so, yeah.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

In lol news, we did not make eventual Duke player Pat Baldwin JR's top 10. I believe the entire top 10 is Nike, so, yeah.

Maybe he goes to his dad's school. Haha

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

http://m.kusports.com/news/2020/may/11/kansas-basketball-lands-commitment-4-star-forward-/ ↗

😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

Awesome! I watched a few of his videos and it looks like he is a pretty versatile player. Can play inside, can shoot 3's, and has a pretty decent handle for a 6'9 guy. Might need to add some weight.

Think I'm gonna go out on a little bit of a limb & take a chance and say ,I think I would be almost shocked if Kendall doesn't end up here at KU. Sure doesn't hurt with Zach committing to play here next year either , can only help I would think. - ROCK CHALK ALLD AY LONG BABY

@KirkIsMyHinrich

Definitely needs some weight. The usual. Upper and lower body strength. If and when he makes it to campus he is the kind of stretch 4 that other programs have used against KU plenty in the past. He could also be a small ball 5 depending on how other parts of his game develop

@jayballer73

With the amount of time he's spent on campus at games it would definitely be a shock if he doesn't commit. Weirder things have happened. Fits a need as well if Agbaji/Grant Foster were to move on after next season to the next level..

According to his mom getting the KU offer was his main goal that he had been working toward for years. More here (article is vip)

https://247sports.com/college/kansas/board/103719/Contents/where-his-heart-is-ku-hoops-dream-school-for-zach-clemence-147057700/ ↗

@BShark

Love it. Great job by the staff locking him down early

“Two years ago, Clemence embarked on a journey to put himself in position to play for a school such as Kansas. After averaging 12.4 points, 12.2 rebounds and 4.0 blocks for Antonian Prep in San Antonio as a freshman, he transferred to Findlay Prep, which had been a factory for churning out high-major players. When the school in Henderson, Nev., closed its doors last May, Clemence went looking for a new home. He had considered attending Sunrise Christian when he first left San Antonio because his grassroots coach at the time, Justin Berry, had played at Newman University in Wichita, Kan., alongside Barnwell. His move to Kansas didn’t hurt the Jayhawks, because not only has it been easier to visit Lawrence but Sunrise Christian also has a lot of the KU offense in its playbook.

He fits the way they play, and it should be an easy transition,” Barnwell said.

Clemence committed so early because he said he felt comfortable with KU and didn’t see any reason to wait and potentially miss out on the opportunity. It also didn’t hurt that his mom has always rooted for the Jayhawks. He has been on KU’s radar — with assistant coach Norm Roberts leading the recruitment — since his sophomore season, and his profile shot up in January when he starred at the Hoophall Classic in Springfield, Mass. He scored 25 points and made 6 of 7 3s in a blowout win over Hillcrest Prep, which featured five-star big men Makur Maker (who has declared for the NBA Draft) and Mike Foster (ranked ninth in the 2021 class by 247). The game was televised on ESPN3 and played in front of an army of college coaches.

“I think he showed that he’s every bit as good as those guys and the driving force behind us getting a big win on TV,” Barnwell said.

Oh, okay then.

Kansas beat out Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Baylor and Arkansas for Clemence. It’s a huge recruiting win for KU with the NCAA battle looming. Clemence said the coaches discussed that with him, but he’s not worried. “I’ve heard it all,” he said. “I’ve seen it all, but Kansas is where it’s at.”

Seems locked in too.

Of the recent offers at PG JD Davison & Nolan Hickman stick out. Davison has elite level athleticism hence his 5 star status. Hickman has great handles, quickness and play-making ability. I think he's the more attainable recruit of the two. Really like Hickman's tape at PG.

I don't Hurt anymore, now that we've nabbed Clemence. Our recruiting is on the upswing (gee, I wonder why?).

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

Think I'm gonna go out on a little bit of a limb & take a chance and say ,I think I would be almost shocked if Kendall doesn't end up here at KU. Sure doesn't hurt with Zach committing to play here next year either , can only help I would think. - ROCK CHALK ALLD AY LONG BABY

We good

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

Think I'm gonna go out on a little bit of a limb & take a chance and say ,I think I would be almost shocked if Kendall doesn't end up here at KU. Sure doesn't hurt with Zach committing to play here next year either , can only help I would think. - ROCK CHALK ALLD AY LONG BABY

We good

Light work.

Boy , they extending this recruiting dead period till the end of July, is gonna cause some really interesting tactics. Like the Head guy at Sunrise said, causing a lot of staffs todo a lot more watching of film and relying on Coaches of these teams , these guys to provide vital information about recruits such as Kendall which we are recruiting - -such as Grady also.

These Coaches are really gonna have to sell the Schools , seeing as there is no on Campus visit. Coaches can't have one on one in face contact with recruits. - -Lots of Zoom calls - -lots of phone calls. Gonna be interesting how this all plays out for schools. ROCKCHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

A lack of summer AAU ball is going to make recruiting much more interesting as well. Players that would've shot up the rankings and players that would've plateaued and dropped in the rankings won't see their rankings shift much, if any this summer.

I'm also curious how much the lack of an AAU season will affect the influence Adidas, Nike, and Under Armour have on the 2021 class and where players end up.

FWIW read where we made cut of final 10 , so doesn't mean a lot I don't think - - not when it's top 10 - -top 5 ehh more likely but top 10?

K J Adams out of West Lake Texas listed his top 10 : Iowa , UCF , Iona , Texas , Oklahoma , Texas Tech , G Town , Baylor , Arkansas , & KU

Wouldn't surprise me at all if Beard didn't pull another one out his B - - - and land him - -Adams is the # 63 rated player right now. Not sure how much of a need for someone like this , another situation I guess of who all leaves after this year huh ? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Mentioned this one earlier in this thread. Mac Etienne , 6'10 C , read the article on him today and his update in his recruitment. - over 29 offers.

Very skilled with Back to the Basket. Rebounding & defending the paint strength of his game , averaged 15 ppg - - 13 rbg - -& 4 blks per game his junior Season.

Said some things he was looking for in the team he commits to , a team with a great pg & wants to be able to play a freshman

Was talking about his virtual visit with KU . Saying Townsend and Coach Self stressing how they need frontcourt guy that can fit their scheme that they have. Coach Self Mentioned the Morris Twins & Joel Embiid that were drafted at his position . Coach Self talking about how KU was favorite to win the whole thing last year & his success he has had in the Big 12. Shows that KU has great tradition and how great the program is

I don't think there is much chance he lands here but I would take him for sure if he chose to come , in need of some good big men top 60 player right now pretty sure that will go up. To many offers to mention all to list some : Louis , Marq , Syra , U Conn , UCLA , Illinois , Seton Hall , Miami , KU , Ohio St - -to name some. I feel from the Sounds - sounds like he really like Illinois but we could sure use him for sure. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

26 of the Top 100 is already committed to a program for the 21 class.

@jayballer73

Adams is good and I like his game. Would be a nice 4 man and seems like the Big-12 makes up half of his Top 10 so good chance he ends up in the conference. I think KU is after someone in the Azubuike/McCormack mold and that wouldn't be Adams.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@jayballer73

Adams is good and I like his game. Would be a nice 4 man and seems like the Big-12 makes up half of his Top 10 so good chance he ends up in the conference. I think KU is after someone in the Azubuike/McCormack mold and that wouldn't be Adams.

He's from Austin, we've seen this rodeo before.

Are we even in the least bit trying to recruit Langston Love anymore or have we went a different direction ? - curious he has his top 11 with KU in it.

Baylor , Texas A & M , UCLA , Texas , Stanford , Texas Tech , Oklahoma State , Villanova , Illinois , & KU -do we know? - -is the staff still interested or what ? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

-is the staff still interested or what

I'm sure they would be, but KU does not appear to really be in that race.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

-is the staff still interested or what

I'm sure they would be, but KU does not appear to really be in that race.

just curious as I read this afternoon we had made his top 11 - - whoopie lol

Something to think about. Do you realize that there is a chance may be a small chance but still a chance that the Big 12 could have the two # 1 ranked players in the country playing in the league this year. - Cade Cunningham the # 1 ranked player for 2020 that's going to play down in Stillwater & then Jonathan Kuminga who is the # 1 ranked player for 2021 is very seriously thinking about re-classifying to2020 and Texas Tech is in his top 5.. They are saying they think he might well re- classify as he named a top 5. Yet he is also considering the NBA G League

If beard happens to land him - - - - - - umm

Recruiting dead period extended to July 31 now.

KK Chandler to Sunrise. They’re going to be incredible.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

KK Chandler to Sunrise. They’re going to be incredible.

you talk about loaded. Brown , Dick , Chandler , & Clemons right ?

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

KK Chandler to Sunrise. They’re going to be incredible.

you talk about loaded. Brown , Dick , Chandler , & Clemons right ?

Yessir. Hope KK doesn’t get into Brown’s ear about Nike

@FarmerJayhawk KK ?

Chet Holmgren, do we have a chance? Is he even going to play college ball? Needs to put on weight, but the guy never stops going.

@Marco said in 2021 Recruiting:

Chet Holmgren, do we have a chance? Is he even going to play college ball? Needs to put on weight, but the guy never stops going.
It doesn't look like Kansas has reached out to him and we are not on his list of schools on 24/7

@Marco said in 2021 Recruiting:

Chet Holmgren, do we have a chance? Is he even going to play college ball? Needs to put on weight, but the guy never stops going.

Negative. Senior Dave all the way in 21-22.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Marco said in 2021 Recruiting:

Chet Holmgren, do we have a chance? Is he even going to play college ball? Needs to put on weight, but the guy never stops going.

Negative. Senior Dave all the way in 21-22.

I hope we have Dave for four years.

Potential end of the bench/walk-on add. Like his game. Not a high flyer but very skilled at both guard spots. https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2021/zeke-mayo-239281 ↗

@Marco said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Marco said in 2021 Recruiting:

Chet Holmgren, do we have a chance? Is he even going to play college ball? Needs to put on weight, but the guy never stops going.

Negative. Senior Dave all the way in 21-22.

I hope we have Dave for four years.

Dave doesn't have an NBA style game, he'll be giving a senior night speech in 2022 before heading overseas for his pro career.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Marco said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Marco said in 2021 Recruiting:

Chet Holmgren, do we have a chance? Is he even going to play college ball? Needs to put on weight, but the guy never stops going.

Negative. Senior Dave all the way in 21-22.

I hope we have Dave for four years.

Dave doesn't have an NBA style game, he'll be giving a senior night speech in 2022 before heading overseas for his pro career.

I'm not ready to write off his chance at carving out an NBA career. But I do hope he sticks around for four.

A name I don't think has been mentioned.

Keon Coleman- KU just made his Top 3.. He's also a 4 star WR for Football and could play both at the next level.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

A name I don't think has been mentioned.

Keon Coleman- KU just made his Top 3.. He's also a 4 star WR for Football and could play both at the next level.

YA we made his top 3 in football. Absolute stud , It's down to South Carolina , Oklahoma & KU.

Coach Self going to play a HUGE part in landing this guy in Football, think we have a pretty decent shot at him. Oklahoma has already got 2 commits rated higher in football. Totally up to him - - do I go to OU and just kind of fall into obscurity behind these other guys OR a chance to go to KU and have a pretty dam good chance of major quality minutes on the field. - - Football is his future , but heard pretty decent in Basketball also

@jayballer73

OU reportedly is the only school that was left in his most recent Top 6 that wasn't recruiting him for Basketball as well.

Has some Agbaji to his game on the hardwood

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@jayballer73

OU reportedly is the only school that was left in his most recent Top 6 that wasn't recruiting him for Basketball as well.

Has some Agbaji to his game on the hardwood

He would be an enormous addition to the football program. He might see the floor in hoops.

@BShark well we know he'd be done in time for most of the bb season.😭

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

A name I don't think has been mentioned.

Keon Coleman- KU just made his Top 3.. He's also a 4 star WR for Football and could play both at the next level.

YA we made his top 3 in football. Absolute stud , It's down to South Carolina , Oklahoma & KU.

Coach Self going to play a HUGE part in landing this guy in Football, think we have a pretty decent shot at him. Oklahoma has already got 2 commits rated higher in football. Totally up to him - - do I go to OU and just kind of fall into obscurity behind these other guys OR a chance to go to KU and have a pretty dam good chance of major quality minutes on the field. - - Football is his future , but heard pretty decent in Basketball also

OU is totally loaded at wide receiver, no doubt. Hell, totally loaded on offense, period. The Rattler is going to be QBing for them this year. I'll admit it, I'm looking forward to seeing him play.

Considering KU has conceded money changed hands for multiple recruits, there's probably a reduction in scholarships coming for basketball so someone like Coleman who would be on scholarship for another sport could provide a boost for roster numbers in basketball. I'm sure Self and Miles have to be in contact with other in regards to this kid.

Considering OU's track record of WR's recently, they're going to be hard to beat. I'm also very surprised LSU isn't in the mix considering they're long history of sending WR's to the NFL that have been very productive in the league.

LSU's after a bunch of other WR's. Strong WR class in the Louisiana area as well.

Isaiah Barnes went from unranked to #85. That Bill Self guy knows talent. Looks like he will end up at Michigan however.

@BShark

He just committed there

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark

He just committed there

Michigan definitely upped their bag game after Belein left.

Can we get back on subject here this is for recruiting basketball not recruiting football

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in 2021 Recruiting:

Can we get back on subject here this is for recruiting basketball not recruiting football

The recruit in question is a two sport athlete whose first sport is football, but an opportunity to possibly play basketball as KU is a selling point that's keeping KU in the mix for the kid.

@JAYHAWKFAN214 said in 2021 Recruiting:

Can we get back on subject here this is for recruiting basketball not recruiting football

just happens that this kid is also a pretty good Basketball player also and wanting to play both sports. That is what Ku is working with , and think because of our Basketball program that gives us a pretty decent shot with the kid. Getting Coach Self involved along with Les -- hit him from both directions.

Texas Hawk 10 , brought up a really good point yesterday saying that with the possible penalty reduction of Scholi, that this kid might be a nice fit because he wouldn't count against our BB Scholi's and still be a good addition. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

KU Made JD Davison's Top 10. The Top ranked PG in 21. I think personally he's a candidate to skip college.

FSU, Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kansas, Louisville, LSU and Memphis also on his list. Alabama product has a lot of SEC programs on his list. Notice no Duke/Kentucky here. Something is off.

If KU is to get a PG I still like Noah Hickman the best, he has a recent KU offer. I would say Kennedy Chandler but he's a Nike homer

@BeddieKU23 Maybe we can get Rahsool Diggins, I think Diggins or Hickman would be good.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 Maybe we can get Rahsool Diggins, I think Diggins or Hickman would be good.

Hickman saw his stock rise to #30 in 247's latest update. I think of the two he's clearly the better player off tape but we'll see.

Didn’t make the top 7 for Chet Holmgren. Bet he stays closer to home.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Didn’t make the top 7 for Chet Holmgren. Bet he stays closer to home.

I don't think we was really ever that serious of a contender for him , really hadn't got my hopes up for him. So it's ok. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer73 no Kansas was not really in on him

Made the top 5 for Matt Cleveland. Think we have a shot here. https://247sports.com/Player/Matthew-Cleveland-46079396/ ↗

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Made the top 5 for Matt Cleveland. Think we have a shot here. https://247sports.com/Player/Matthew-Cleveland-46079396/ ↗

For real? Interesting

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Made the top 5 for Matt Cleveland. Think we have a shot here. https://247sports.com/Player/Matthew-Cleveland-46079396/ ↗

I would think your right about having a shot at him. I checked it out a bit and Location is obviously is not a factor if you look at the remaining 5. If it was and he was wanting to stay close to home -- he had offers from Georgia & Georgia State.

Some Schools he crossed of his list some decent teams for sure : - - -Ala , Arkansas ' Aub , Florida , Iowa St , KSU , Louisville , Mary , Mia , Mizzery , Okla , Seton Hall , TCU , Vandy , Xavier and last but not least Kentucky.

So with the 5 left yes I think we have a solid chance you would think. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Made the top 5 for Matt Cleveland. Think we have a shot here. https://247sports.com/Player/Matthew-Cleveland-46079396/ ↗

For real? Interesting

Yeah, rumor was Georgia Tech for awhile since I believe one or both of his parents are alums, but they’re a raging trash fire at the moment.

Harrrrd to pull kids out of the south. Also can we land him and KB? Because I've heard KB will be coming again very strongly.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

Harrrrd to pull kids out of the south. Also can we land him and KB? Because I've heard KB will be coming again very strongly.

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I think so. Have to replace at least one guard and possibly a wing or even two if TGF is really determined to be a OAD. Go something like Harris, Thompson, Cleveland, Brown, McCormack. Or swap Ochai or TGF for Cleveland if they stay. Or play Bryce at PG: Bryce, Cleveland, Ochai, Brown.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

Harrrrd to pull kids out of the south. Also can we land him and KB? Because I've heard KB will be coming again very strongly.

Dam , like you ask I don't think we would get both. So becomes the question Kendall or Cleveland ? - -I don't know - -BUT me ? - -I think I would want Kendall. - -Is that a wrong choice ? - - -Maybe , just me. - - - one thing is unless Kendall has improved his outside shooting - then you need Cleveland I would think. - -have heard many time that Brown has shaky outside J at present correct ? I STILL think I would TAKE bROWN. - - rock chalk all day long baby

FSU sounds confident since they got him on campus twice and he was planning an OV before Covid. They believed Louisville was in the lead. take it for what that's worth.

So, TGF one and done? I could see that.

@Marco

Not impossible but will have to start in order to maximize his stock

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

FSU sounds confident since they got him on campus twice and he was planning an OV before Covid. They believed Louisville was in the lead. take it for what that's worth.

well one problem solved. - -Louisville has been cut so not that much of a leader I guess. - -If we get him on campus would be good

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Marco

Not impossible but will have to start in order to maximize his stock

So who is TGF ?

@jayballer73

Grant-Foster

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

FSU sounds confident since they got him on campus twice and he was planning an OV before Covid. They believed Louisville was in the lead. take it for what that's worth.

well one problem solved. - -Louisville has been cut so not that much of a leader I guess. - -If we get him on campus would be good

Louisville board thinks he's headed to FSU.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@jayballer73

Grant-Foster

oh ok

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

FSU sounds confident since they got him on campus twice and he was planning an OV before Covid. They believed Louisville was in the lead. take it for what that's worth.

well one problem solved. - -Louisville has been cut so not that much of a leader I guess. - -If we get him on campus would be good

Louisville board thinks he's headed to FSU.

Oh sorry , sorry my friend. Just another example of my old age showing , I had things totally screwed up I had it in my mind that you were saying that Louisville thought he was headed to Louisville lol. - -I was gonna say umm Louisville got cut - -then it finally sunk through this thick skull you said FLORIDA STATE/ still think we have a really good shot if that's who we want though with the others we are going against for him. -- - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Just read where KU has offered 6'4 combo Guard Jordan Riley out of Brentwood NY. He dad said that KU has been monitoring him for several months , telling him it's there for the taking all he had to do was take it.

Another kid that presently isn't top 150 , his Coach said that Coach's need to quit playing politics and take notice. - He says this is what an NBA player looks like. Maybe Norm finding another Devonte / Frank scenario - -possibly under rated / over looked.

Other Schools offering : Fla St , .G'Town , U Conn , Georg , W F , St John , KSU , Seton Hall , Pitt , Virg Tech to name a few

Not overlooked with that offer sheet. I think the big problem is not many chances to evaluate players, so rankings are slow to update at best. This favors good talent evaluating coaches.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

Not overlooked with that offer sheet. I think the big problem is not many chances to evaluate players, so rankings are slow to update at best. This favors good talent evaluating coaches.

Ya true , I guess Norm has been on him for several months

@jayballer73

If he's a kid that values visits and relationships FSU probably has him. They are definitely big game fishing these days and he would fill a need that will be left by MJ Walker graduating. Michigan has also creeped in his recruitment and with Howard they are able to recruit his level. KU could have a good chance but we havent heard much from him on where they stand. We certainly will have a need for him if he chooses as he would definitely fill the Agbaji role..

Final 8 for this guy. Hasn’t really been on my radar honestly. https://247sports.com/Player/Arthur-Kaluma-46055603/ ↗

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Final 8 for this guy. Hasn’t really been on my radar honestly. https://247sports.com/Player/Arthur-Kaluma-46055603/ ↗

you just beat me to this , now hearing about guys hadn't heard about , had no idea

6"8 PF out of Dream City Arizona. other teams Syracuse , Oklahoma , Arkansas , Southern Cal , Arizona State , UNLV , Texas A & M. - ranked # 36 in the Nation.

Another note, mercy sure a lot of pretty decent kids mentioning Shaka and Texas making these kids final lists. - -Really don't get it with him cause Texas will never be a Basketball School. Shaka might be able to recruit but just seems like he under Coach's for some of the talent he has had

@jayballer73 they will have never badseason so don't worry

@jayballer73

Texas pays well.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@jayballer73

~~Texas~~ Nike pays well.

Texas doesn't give two 💩 about basketball.

@BeddieKU23 Hamilton can coach. That is one team that has not swayed from size, very long every year. They will absolutely kick your ass down low.

Makur Maker committed to Howard today. I'm curious if some of the other top recruits that have discussed going to an HBCU follow Maker's lead.

Cleveland has 4 predictions on Rivals to end up at FSU

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

Cleveland has 4 predictions on Rivals to end up at FSU

And this surprises who ? lol

2021 phenom u. big man logan landers gets a huge offer from kansas

Just read where we made top 8 ya I know top 8 - -why not top 15/20 lol -- -but anyways we made the top 8 cut for 2021 pg 6'1 Frankie Collins out of Compass Prep Arizona, other schools involved :

New Mexico , Arizona State , USC , Georgetown , Michigan , Vanderbilt , Auburn & KU

Ranked as the # 9 point guard in the class of 2021 and the # 58 ranked player in the class overall

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

Just read where we made top 8 ya I know top 8 - -why not top 15/20 lol -- -but anyways we made the top 8 cut for 2021 pg 6'1 Frankie Collins out of Compass Prep Arizona, other schools involved :

New Mexico , Arizona State , USC , Georgetown , Michigan , Vanderbilt , Auburn & KU

Ranked as the # 9 point guard in the class of 2021 and the # 58 ranked player in the class overall
It's too early to tell And There is no leader at this time

@JAYHAWKFAN214 I have a gut feeling about this one, think that we'll sign him.

:) https://247sports.com/Player/Nolan-Hickman-46085757/ ↗

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

:) https://247sports.com/Player/Nolan-Hickman-46085757 ↗

Interesting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

:) https://247sports.com/Player/Nolan-Hickman-46085757/ ↗

Same High school as Tristan I believe.

@rockchalkwyo said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

:) https://247sports.com/Player/Nolan-Hickman-46085757/ ↗

Same High school as Tristan I believe.

Moving there for his SR year is great for KU I would imagine. He's from the PNW originally. Sounds like it's the good guys or UW. Hopefully he values winning.

Kurtis whatever it takes to get him in Lawrence Townsend is on the case.

Favorite PG prospect we offered. Kids a baller

@BeddieKU23 After watching what I could find on youtube, I'm all aboard. Best realistic option for the staff.

@BShark I hear you. It would be a shame if he chose to waste away at UW with the rest of the Pac12.

He's a keeper, but I'm interested in bigs. We've got to sign atleast one, maybe even two bigs.

Kansas is in a good position for Nolan Hickman

Bossi thinks UNC, KU in that order for Sallis. Jives with what I've heard as well https://basketballrecruiting.n.rivals.com/news/ranking-the-contenders-hunter-sallis ↗

@FarmerJayhawk sounds like Caleb Love part two.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk sounds like Caleb Love part two.

Very well could be. If we get Hickman and possibly Bates it's fine. Think we only have to replace Garrett in the backcourt anyhow. At least that's the hope given the strong likelihood of a partial season.

Langston Love committed to Baylor today ranked # 26 in 247 in the nation, think they had him ranked as the # 4 rated pg

Kendall Brownnnnnn.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

Kendall Brownnnnnn.

still looking good for him

Matthew Cleveland will announce Tuesday. Imagine FSU won this one.

Jordan Riley will announce Friday. Imagine either St John's or Uconn based on location. Damn what an athlete that one is

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

Matthew Cleveland will announce Tuesday. Imagine FSU won this one.

Jordan Riley will announce Friday. Imagine either St John's or Uconn based on location. Damn what an athlete that one is

Not a single pick in for Riley on Rivals or 24/7. Don't think it's KU given the lack of any smoke.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

Matthew Cleveland will announce Tuesday. Imagine FSU won this one.

Jordan Riley will announce Friday. Imagine either St John's or Uconn based on location. Damn what an athlete that one is

Not a single pick in for Riley on Rivals or 24/7. Don't think it's KU given the lack of any smoke.

Thought we were in pretty good shape with him ?

Kendall brown has Committed to the Baylor beers

Well that came from nowhere. Scott must be up to his old way$.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Well that came from nowhere. Scott must be up to his old way$.

Yeah fuck, heard about this yesterday via a twitter dm didn't want to believe it...

Wow. That is just brutal.

wow whatever Kendall

Hell, I didn't even know Baylor was really recruiting him. I think he was our only legit shot at a 5* in this class.

Baylor is just crushing it right now in recruiting.

@Woodrow said in 2021 Recruiting:

Hell, I didn't even know Baylor was really recruiting him. I think he was our only legit shot at a 5* in this class.

Just quietly in his top 10, not believed to be in the top 5 then they lock him up. Brutal.

Had heard previously that it would be KU, he is one I believe the staff was counting on. They are gonna need guys, I honestly don't know where they turn now.

I think they’ll be ok on the wing. Still will have TGF, Enaruna, and Thompson capable of playing that spot. If it were me, I’d go full bore on guards: Sallis, Hickman, and Bates. Sallis is rumored to be a legit 6’5 now, so he and Bryce could both play multiple spots, where Hickman and Harris are true PG’s.

@FarmerJayhawk likely Agbaji and Wilson too. That's one positive, stocked on forward types. Need some guards. Would be hilarious (albeit unlikely) to land Jordan Riley.

And Christian Braun.

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 2021 Recruiting:

And Christian Braun.

Good call. Theoretically we could still roll with Harris, Thompson, Agbaji, Enaruna, McCormack with Braun, Hickman, Bates, Wilson, and Clemence as backups. Gethro and Jossell could still be around too. Add one more big to that mix and there’s your 13.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in 2021 Recruiting:

And Christian Braun.

Good call. Theoretically we could still roll with Harris, Thompson, Agbaji, Enaruna, McCormack with Braun, Hickman, Bates, Wilson, and Clemence as backups. Gethro and Jossell could still be around too. Add one more big to that mix and there’s your 13.

But that would require landing a recruit ever again, which is impossible.

On a serious note I think it's better to have Braun ahead of Enaruna until proven otherwise. Though you would want to see Enaruna improve due to his size and length.

I get a weird feeling about Bates. Self will add a guard or two though for sure.

@BShark a good weird feeling?

@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark a good weird feeling?

My feeling is Bates has cooled on KU some. Doesn’t mean we can’t get him, but it’s not the lock it was before IMG.

@Crimsonorblue22 What Farmer said. I honestly have no idea who KU ends up with at this point. I figured Hickman looked good, but so did KB. Self will add some guards tho.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Crimsonorblue22 What Farmer said. I honestly have no idea who KU ends up with at this point. I figured Hickman looked good, but so did KB. Self will add some guards tho.

Any in the portal that we have a shot at?

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Well that came from nowhere. Scott must be up to his old way$.

I had checked Rivals awhile ago , and saw that Baylor was tied with us. - -frick just like another scenario how we hear oh KU lock KU lock just like Ayton - KU 100 % lock then BAM something smells

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

I think they’ll be ok on the wing. Still will have TGF, Enaruna, and Thompson capable of playing that spot. If it were me, I’d go full bore on guards: Sallis, Hickman, and Bates. Sallis is rumored to be a legit 6’5 now, so he and Bryce could both play multiple spots, where Hickman and Harris are true PG’s.

FWIW - - Hickman and Bates are both showing favorable for KU at THIS POINT this Brown bullshit smells big time

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk likely Agbaji and Wilson too. That's one positive, stocked on forward types. Need some guards. Would be hilarious (albeit unlikely) to land Jordan Riley.

I feel some how we are going to have to get more then what we thought out of Wilson - I think he can be a solid player, but we need him to come through , gonna see some minutes

This Baylor thing is just strange with Brown - -DeAndre Ayton x 2 ? Buy me a Championship Drew , what really kicks me in the nads is isn't Brown at Sunrise Academy with Clemmons ? - -something just doesn't add up. - - all we hear is KU KU KU KU - -then this ? - - come on - - let's be real , unless the looming NCAA investigation possible sanctions is playing hell with these kids and scaring them off. IF NOT then Baylor is not even close to the prestige program that KU is just makes zero sense - -needless to say I'm P - - - - - real. Has Bill lost his edge, is our staff geting stale ?

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

This Baylor thing is just strange with Brown - -DeAndre Ayton x 2 ? Buy me a Championship Drew , what really kicks me in the nads is isn't Brown at Sunrise Academy with Clemmons ? - -something just doesn't add up. - - all we hear is KU KU KU KU - -then this ? - - come on - - let's be real , unless the looming NCAA investigation possible sanctions is playing hell with these kids and scaring them off. IF NOT then Baylor is not even close to the prestige program that KU is just makes zero sense - -needless to say I'm P - - - - - real. Has Bill lost his edge, is our staff geting stale ?

No he has not lost his edge

Kendall Brown is going to Baylor. Time to move on. Any other combo forwards out there?

@Marco doubt we go after any, roster is stuffed at that spot.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Marco doubt we go after any, roster is stuffed at that spot.

could still use another big

@jayballer73 I believe that will happen. Much more of a need than a wing.

@BShark Which could be why Brown went to Baylor. It's not like we are not loaded there, how many we got?

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@jayballer73 I believe that will happen. Much more of a need than a wing.

yes I do agree with you on that my friend - question is have you heard of any legit posibilities at this stage ?

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@jayballer73 I believe that will happen. Much more of a need than a wing.

yes I do agree with you on that my friend - question is have you heard of any legit posibilities at this stage ?

I'd keep an eye on Logan Landers.

@BShark

Yikes!

The Brown situation is awful no matter what way you look at it. How many times did he come here unofficially? Then commit within the conference to Baylor. Good grief kid.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark

Yikes!

Recruiting seems not great atm, fortunate to land Clemence. Need to just get the NCAA crap done with. Doesn't seem like we have a shot at any elite 5s, but at least we will have SR Dave hopefully.

Jordan Riley will end up at ST Johns would be my guess.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark

Yikes!

Recruiting seems not great atm, fortunate to land Clemence. Need to just get the NCAA crap done with. Doesn't seem like we have a shot at any elite 5s, but at least we will have SR Dave hopefully.

Hard to land top talent when there aren't a lot of immediate minutes available, especially when none of the underclassmen are surefire early departure candidates.

A 2021-22 starting 5 of Harris, Thompson, Agbaji, TGF/Clemence, and Dave seems like a solid bet.

If Self and staff feel like Gethro can contribute in 2021, then the front court is the lowest priority. At this point, all attention should be on the back court for 2021 because that's where KU looks like they're going to be hurting the most right now in 2021 without much depth, particularly at the 2 spot.

@Texas-Hawk-10 I am thinking a wing will have to fill in at guard. I believe the staff would like to add two guards. Sallis and Hickman in a perfect world but I don't think Sallis ends up at KU. Hickman and Bates would be fine.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark

Yikes!

Recruiting seems not great atm, fortunate to land Clemence. Need to just get the NCAA crap done with. Doesn't seem like we have a shot at any elite 5s, but at least we will have SR Dave hopefully.

Very fortunate to have landed Clemence. Recruiting is still a giant pile of poo I guess. I'm hopeful for Hickman but I won't hold my breathe either after this latest letdown

@BeddieKU23 yep..exactly my sentiment. Things look good now but things looked like a near lock with KB.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark

Yikes!

Recruiting seems not great atm, fortunate to land Clemence. Need to just get the NCAA crap done with. Doesn't seem like we have a shot at any elite 5s, but at least we will have SR Dave hopefully.

Hard to land top talent when there aren't a lot of immediate minutes available, especially when none of the underclassmen are surefire early departure candidates.

A 2021-22 starting 5 of Harris, Thompson, Agbaji, TGF/Clemence, and Dave seems like a solid bet.

If Self and staff feel like Gethro can contribute in 2021, then the front court is the lowest priority. At this point, all attention should be on the back court for 2021 because that's where KU looks like they're going to be hurting the most right now in 2021 without much depth, particularly at the 2 spot.

If your looking for Gethro to help in 2021 then we really are IN TROUBLE - that's exactly why we need another really goof quality big man in this class

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@jayballer73 I believe that will happen. Much more of a need than a wing.

yes I do agree with you on that my friend - question is have you heard of any legit posibilities at this stage ?

I'd keep an eye on Logan Landers.

Any Chnace - - -Any chance at all for Damion Collins ? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

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@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

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well crap

The key is Hickman. You get 2 great players. Plus there is always someone really good late in the cycle. Still not shocking with the NCAA stuff going on and no reigning in of Nike and under armor schools on stuff. I’m sure we can’t match there offers right now

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark

Yikes!

Recruiting seems not great atm, fortunate to land Clemence. Need to just get the NCAA crap done with. Doesn't seem like we have a shot at any elite 5s, but at least we will have SR Dave hopefully.

Hard to land top talent when there aren't a lot of immediate minutes available, especially when none of the underclassmen are surefire early departure candidates.

A 2021-22 starting 5 of Harris, Thompson, Agbaji, TGF/Clemence, and Dave seems like a solid bet.

If Self and staff feel like Gethro can contribute in 2021, then the front court is the lowest priority. At this point, all attention should be on the back court for 2021 because that's where KU looks like they're going to be hurting the most right now in 2021 without much depth, particularly at the 2 spot.

If your looking for Gethro to help in 2021 then we really are IN TROUBLE - that's exactly why we need another really goof quality big man in this class

Which is why I said, "If Self and staff..."

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 yep..exactly my sentiment. Things look good now but things looked like a near lock with KB.

I'll be happy with Hickman and a quality big to go with Clemence. If everyone stays that should you have a nice nucleus of players but overall I think the talent level will have taken a dive if guys don't develop and that's where guys like Kendall Brown bridge the gap. That's an elite athlete going to Drew with a good base of skill level. I'll say this one hurts a lot more then others have over the years

@BeddieKU23 have we heard if his guards are staying in or coming back this yr?

@Crimsonorblue22

2 weeks ago drew said still no decision on either

@BeddieKU23 thoughts?

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark

Yikes!

Recruiting seems not great atm, fortunate to land Clemence. Need to just get the NCAA crap done with. Doesn't seem like we have a shot at any elite 5s, but at least we will have SR Dave hopefully.

Hard to land top talent when there aren't a lot of immediate minutes available, especially when none of the underclassmen are surefire early departure candidates.

A 2021-22 starting 5 of Harris, Thompson, Agbaji, TGF/Clemence, and Dave seems like a solid bet.

If Self and staff feel like Gethro can contribute in 2021, then the front court is the lowest priority. At this point, all attention should be on the back court for 2021 because that's where KU looks like they're going to be hurting the most right now in 2021 without much depth, particularly at the 2 spot.

If your looking for Gethro to help in 2021 then we really are IN TROUBLE - that's exactly why we need another really goof quality big man in this class

Which is why I said, "If Self and staff..."

And I'll say AGAIN we need that other quality Big

@Texas-Hawk-10 I think Muscadin can and will contribute, even this season. He is big and has handles, can shoot from deep and drive. I am really not understanding why everyone thinks that he's not going to contribute. I heard the same about Agbaji and Braun, and what happened? Muscadin is going to not only play as a freshman, but play pretty well.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 thoughts?

I think 1 stays in. Butler is the better player and better NBA prospect so I'd lean he goes. Drew also positioned himself to replace him by recruiting a sit-out transfer and 4 star prospect. Not to mention he has Mitchell who played 3rd fiddle last year. I think Teague stays since he'd have a starring role especially if Butler stays in. If they both stay Baylor is the clear cut favorite in the league (I hate to say it..)

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark

Yikes!

Recruiting seems not great atm, fortunate to land Clemence. Need to just get the NCAA crap done with. Doesn't seem like we have a shot at any elite 5s, but at least we will have SR Dave hopefully.

Hard to land top talent when there aren't a lot of immediate minutes available, especially when none of the underclassmen are surefire early departure candidates.

A 2021-22 starting 5 of Harris, Thompson, Agbaji, TGF/Clemence, and Dave seems like a solid bet.

If Self and staff feel like Gethro can contribute in 2021, then the front court is the lowest priority. At this point, all attention should be on the back court for 2021 because that's where KU looks like they're going to be hurting the most right now in 2021 without much depth, particularly at the 2 spot.

If your looking for Gethro to help in 2021 then we really are IN TROUBLE - that's exactly why we need another really goof quality big man in this class

Which is why I said, "If Self and staff..."

And I'll say AGAIN we need that other quality Big

Transfer route maybe. I don't see KU on the radar for an immediate impact big currently. Things can always change on that front but it's not looking great atm. I think Clemence plays early and as long as Dave returns for his Sr year you have 2 bigs at least. That's where a guy like Landers could be useful to have

@Marco said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Texas-Hawk-10 I think Muscadin can and will contribute, even this season. He is big and has handles, can shoot from deep and drive. I am really not understanding why everyone thinks that he's not going to contribute. I heard the same about Agbaji and Braun, and what happened? Muscadin is going to not only play as a freshman, but play pretty well.

Gethro needs to add a lot of weight first. 6-10, 215 is skinny to hold position on defense. He would get owned on that end of the floor and forced off his spot with ease on offense.

Agbaji isn't that good. He's one of the most athletic players Self has ever had, but he can't shoot, can't dribble, a subpar passer, and has a very low basketball IQ. There's a reason why Agbaji was ranked as low as he was. PER measures a player's offensive efficiency and 15 is considered average. Agbaji had a 13.1 PER last season and dropped to a 10.4 in conference games. I cannot emphasize enough just how bad a 10.4 PER is.

Christian Braun is going to be a sniper for KU. Over half his shots (55%) came from 3 last year and I expect that percentage will go up every year and end up being a better version of Brady Morningstar for Self.

@Texas-Hawk-10 I never said that Agbaji could shoot, but he's been a starter for two years now.

@Marco said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Texas-Hawk-10 I never said that Agbaji could shoot, but he's been a starter for two years now.

Doesn't mean he should be though. He's a solid defender, but that's about his only positive attribute on the floor which is why Self plays him. That said, Agbaji's defense isn't good enough to negate how bad he is on the floor unlike Garrett who, even as a worse shooter than Agbaji, is a much better offensive player than Agbaji because Garrett can dribble, pass, and drive to the basket and be a force on offense. Agbaji only plays the minutes he does because Self doesn't have a better option at this point. I will also say that I think Agbaji's defense only seems as good as it does because he's spent a lot of his time on the floor at the 4 spot so he's mostly guarded slower players.

I'm gonna call it now and say that after Agbaji leaves KU, he's gonna be debated about in the same category as Jamari Traylor who actually had a better career PER than Agbaji does now and was actuallyuch better PER in Big 12 games.

With the plethora of 4's KU has next year, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Agbaji have a big reduction in minutes this upcoming season. I'll say it now that KU's best line up next season is going to be Garrett, Thompson, Braun, Lightfoot, McCormack.

Agbaji is a more or less a replacement level player at KU, maybe slightly below even but he has traits that Self values a bit too highly at times.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Recruiting:

Doesn't mean he should be though. He's a solid defender, but that's about his only positive attribute on the floor which is why Self plays him. That said, Agbaji's defense isn't good enough to negate how bad he is on the floor unlike Garrett who, even as a worse shooter than Agbaji, is a much better offensive player than Agbaji because Garrett can dribble, pass, and drive to the basket and be a force on offense. Agbaji only plays the minutes he does because Self doesn't have a better option at this point. I will also say that I think Agbaji's defense only seems as good as it does because he's spent a lot of his time on the floor at the 4 spot so he's mostly guarded slower players.

I'm gonna call it now and say that after Agbaji leaves KU, he's gonna be debated about in the same category as Jamari Traylor who actually had a better career PER than Agbaji does now and was actuallyuch better PER in Big 12 games.

With the plethora of 4's KU has next year, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Agbaji have a big reduction in minutes this upcoming season. I'll say it now that KU's best line up next season is going to be Garrett, Thompson, Braun, Lightfoot, McCormack.

I agree with some of this but I can't even envision KU's best line-up next year involving Mitch Lightfoot. If we are going to bring up stats with Agbaji, which I think is fair then you have to look at Mitch's stats too. Career negative OBPM, average PER (factoring in he mostly played as a big, it's more or less on par with Agbaji because PER favors bigs) etc... I will believe he is a real threat from three when he takes and makes a real number per game. Where he does well is defensively, which is where I think next year has a lot of potential in general.

So I think Agbaji should see a minutes reduction, but I don't think Mitch should be playing more than 15 in any given game. If Mitch does prove to be a much improved player then he should and will get big minutes.

I have heard that Self is absolutely enamored with TGF, fwiw. @FarmerJayhawk Have you heard similar?

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

Agbaji is a more or less a replacement level player at KU, maybe slightly below even but he has traits that Self values a bit too highly at times.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Recruiting:

Doesn't mean he should be though. He's a solid defender, but that's about his only positive attribute on the floor which is why Self plays him. That said, Agbaji's defense isn't good enough to negate how bad he is on the floor unlike Garrett who, even as a worse shooter than Agbaji, is a much better offensive player than Agbaji because Garrett can dribble, pass, and drive to the basket and be a force on offense. Agbaji only plays the minutes he does because Self doesn't have a better option at this point. I will also say that I think Agbaji's defense only seems as good as it does because he's spent a lot of his time on the floor at the 4 spot so he's mostly guarded slower players.

I'm gonna call it now and say that after Agbaji leaves KU, he's gonna be debated about in the same category as Jamari Traylor who actually had a better career PER than Agbaji does now and was actuallyuch better PER in Big 12 games.

With the plethora of 4's KU has next year, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Agbaji have a big reduction in minutes this upcoming season. I'll say it now that KU's best line up next season is going to be Garrett, Thompson, Braun, Lightfoot, McCormack.

I agree with some of this but I can't even envision KU's best line-up next year involving Mitch Lightfoot. If we are going to bring up stats with Agbaji, which I think is fair then you have to look at Mitch's stats too. Career negative OBPM, average PER (factoring in he mostly played as a big, it's more or less on par with Agbaji because PER favors bigs) etc... I will believe he is a real threat from three when he takes and makes a real number per game. Where he does well is defensively, which is where I think next year has a lot of potential in general.

So I think Agbaji should see a minutes reduction, but I don't think Mitch should be playing more than 15 in any given game. If Mitch does prove to be a much improved player then he should and will get big minutes.

I have heard that Self is absolutely enamored with TGF, fwiw. @FarmerJayhawk Have you heard similar?

Yeah, I'd say that's right. I could easily see Garrett, Thompson, Ochai, TGF, McCormack as the starting lineup by the end of the year. He's got some Josh Jackson to him. Braun could play the 2 or 3 and Harris the point.

Is Micwaber etienne an option still? I know we offered and he’s a top 50ish center? That year we will have a jr braun, wilson, Enruna, ochai. Maybe Thomson or tgf if they return. A very good McCormick. Clemence will be an impact freshman. So I think we will be fine! Key is we need a good point guard. Hickman is key. You land him the class still has 2 top 50 players both addressing our need a power forward and a top pg. With 2022 hopefully adding top 50 level shooting guard talent in Grady dick. It’s annoying Baylor stole a recruit we should always get, but the league needs to be strong. That helps us prepare for a championship run, and gives us more credit when we win it. Baylor’s biggest advantage next year is that we may not have fans in the stadium next year, which takes away our home court advantage

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

Agbaji is a more or less a replacement level player at KU, maybe slightly below even but he has traits that Self values a bit too highly at times.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Recruiting:

Doesn't mean he should be though. He's a solid defender, but that's about his only positive attribute on the floor which is why Self plays him. That said, Agbaji's defense isn't good enough to negate how bad he is on the floor unlike Garrett who, even as a worse shooter than Agbaji, is a much better offensive player than Agbaji because Garrett can dribble, pass, and drive to the basket and be a force on offense. Agbaji only plays the minutes he does because Self doesn't have a better option at this point. I will also say that I think Agbaji's defense only seems as good as it does because he's spent a lot of his time on the floor at the 4 spot so he's mostly guarded slower players.

I'm gonna call it now and say that after Agbaji leaves KU, he's gonna be debated about in the same category as Jamari Traylor who actually had a better career PER than Agbaji does now and was actuallyuch better PER in Big 12 games.

With the plethora of 4's KU has next year, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Agbaji have a big reduction in minutes this upcoming season. I'll say it now that KU's best line up next season is going to be Garrett, Thompson, Braun, Lightfoot, McCormack.

I agree with some of this but I can't even envision KU's best line-up next year involving Mitch Lightfoot. If we are going to bring up stats with Agbaji, which I think is fair then you have to look at Mitch's stats too. Career negative OBPM, average PER (factoring in he mostly played as a big, it's more or less on par with Agbaji because PER favors bigs) etc... I will believe he is a real threat from three when he takes and makes a real number per game. Where he does well is defensively, which is where I think next year has a lot of potential in general.

So I think Agbaji should see a minutes reduction, but I don't think Mitch should be playing more than 15 in any given game. If Mitch does prove to be a much improved player then he should and will get big minutes.

I have heard that Self is absolutely enamored with TGF, fwiw. @FarmerJayhawk Have you heard similar?

Self has gotten enamoured with plenty players before that didn't live up to his own hype. I've always been very skeptical of JuCo's because it's very common for JuCo player's to get overhyped and then come in and struggle. Rewatching TGF's JuCo tape, he's got some significant holes in his game that have me doubting how effective he'll be right away.

@FarmerJayhawk sorry, but Ochai really should not be starting or playing crunch time minutes for KU because he is a net negative for KU in end game scenarios and is someone that you can leave unguarded on offense with minimal risk of getting burned.

@jayhawks2010 said in 2021 Recruiting:

Is Micwaber etienne an option still? I know we offered and he’s a top 50ish center? That year we will have a jr braun, wilson, Enruna, ochai. Maybe Thomson or tgf if they return. A very good McCormick. Clemence will be an impact freshman. So I think we will be fine! Key is we need a good point guard. Hickman is key. You land him the class still has 2 top 50 players both addressing our need a power forward and a top pg. With 2022 hopefully adding top 50 level shooting guard talent in Grady dick. It’s annoying Baylor stole a recruit we should always get, but the league needs to be strong. That helps us prepare for a championship run, and gives us more credit when we win it. Baylor’s biggest advantage next year is that we may not have fans in the stadium next year, which takes away our home court advantage

Looking at recruiting and seein Baylor mentioned quite a bit with players -- them and Tech - -league is getting stronger

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

Agbaji is a more or less a replacement level player at KU, maybe slightly below even but he has traits that Self values a bit too highly at times.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Recruiting:

Doesn't mean he should be though. He's a solid defender, but that's about his only positive attribute on the floor which is why Self plays him. That said, Agbaji's defense isn't good enough to negate how bad he is on the floor unlike Garrett who, even as a worse shooter than Agbaji, is a much better offensive player than Agbaji because Garrett can dribble, pass, and drive to the basket and be a force on offense. Agbaji only plays the minutes he does because Self doesn't have a better option at this point. I will also say that I think Agbaji's defense only seems as good as it does because he's spent a lot of his time on the floor at the 4 spot so he's mostly guarded slower players.

I'm gonna call it now and say that after Agbaji leaves KU, he's gonna be debated about in the same category as Jamari Traylor who actually had a better career PER than Agbaji does now and was actuallyuch better PER in Big 12 games.

With the plethora of 4's KU has next year, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Agbaji have a big reduction in minutes this upcoming season. I'll say it now that KU's best line up next season is going to be Garrett, Thompson, Braun, Lightfoot, McCormack.

I agree with some of this but I can't even envision KU's best line-up next year involving Mitch Lightfoot. If we are going to bring up stats with Agbaji, which I think is fair then you have to look at Mitch's stats too. Career negative OBPM, average PER (factoring in he mostly played as a big, it's more or less on par with Agbaji because PER favors bigs) etc... I will believe he is a real threat from three when he takes and makes a real number per game. Where he does well is defensively, which is where I think next year has a lot of potential in general.

So I think Agbaji should see a minutes reduction, but I don't think Mitch should be playing more than 15 in any given game. If Mitch does prove to be a much improved player then he should and will get big minutes.

I have heard that Self is absolutely enamored with TGF, fwiw. @FarmerJayhawk Have you heard similar?

Self has gotten enamoured with plenty players before that didn't live up to his own hype. I've always been very skeptical of JuCo's because it's very common for JuCo player's to get overhyped and then come in and struggle. Rewatching TGF's JuCo tape, he's got some significant holes in his game that have me doubting how effective he'll be right away.

@FarmerJayhawk sorry, but Ochai really should not be starting or playing crunch time minutes for KU because he is a net negative for KU in end game scenarios and is someone that you can leave unguarded on offense with minimal risk of getting burned.

I absolutely think he'll have an adjustment period. In TGF's case it's not just Self either. NBA guys are really high on him as well.

He did make some boneheaded plays down the stretch last year, but also got put in some bad spots (Dotson wasn't a great passer and sometimes got tunnel vision). I expect his feel and basketball IQ to improve this year. He's still newish to the game and should make some progress. But could also see Braun in that role, especially if he keeps shooting 40+% from 3. Bill still loves Ochai's defense, and will play a lot. You may disagree, which is fine, but that's the way Self will play it.

@jayhawks2010 said in 2021 Recruiting:

Is Micwaber etienne an option still? I know we offered and he’s a top 50ish center? That year we will have a jr braun, wilson, Enruna, ochai. Maybe Thomson or tgf if they return. A very good McCormick. Clemence will be an impact freshman. So I think we will be fine! Key is we need a good point guard. Hickman is key. You land him the class still has 2 top 50 players both addressing our need a power forward and a top pg. With 2022 hopefully adding top 50 level shooting guard talent in Grady dick. It’s annoying Baylor stole a recruit we should always get, but the league needs to be strong. That helps us prepare for a championship run, and gives us more credit when we win it. Baylor’s biggest advantage next year is that we may not have fans in the stadium next year, which takes away our home court advantage

He was probably never a real option due to his aau team.

22 if KU is out from the NCAA shadow could be a strong class. Lots of good local talent. There are also some kids that want to be Jayhawks but it will be interesting to see if KU makes a push such as Juju Ramirez and Braden Appelhans.

@FarmerJayhawk I hope you are right because he needs to get better if he is going to play massive minutes regardless.

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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

Agbaji is a more or less a replacement level player at KU, maybe slightly below even but he has traits that Self values a bit too highly at times.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in 2021 Recruiting:

Doesn't mean he should be though. He's a solid defender, but that's about his only positive attribute on the floor which is why Self plays him. That said, Agbaji's defense isn't good enough to negate how bad he is on the floor unlike Garrett who, even as a worse shooter than Agbaji, is a much better offensive player than Agbaji because Garrett can dribble, pass, and drive to the basket and be a force on offense. Agbaji only plays the minutes he does because Self doesn't have a better option at this point. I will also say that I think Agbaji's defense only seems as good as it does because he's spent a lot of his time on the floor at the 4 spot so he's mostly guarded slower players.

I'm gonna call it now and say that after Agbaji leaves KU, he's gonna be debated about in the same category as Jamari Traylor who actually had a better career PER than Agbaji does now and was actuallyuch better PER in Big 12 games.

With the plethora of 4's KU has next year, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Agbaji have a big reduction in minutes this upcoming season. I'll say it now that KU's best line up next season is going to be Garrett, Thompson, Braun, Lightfoot, McCormack.

I agree with some of this but I can't even envision KU's best line-up next year involving Mitch Lightfoot. If we are going to bring up stats with Agbaji, which I think is fair then you have to look at Mitch's stats too. Career negative OBPM, average PER (factoring in he mostly played as a big, it's more or less on par with Agbaji because PER favors bigs) etc... I will believe he is a real threat from three when he takes and makes a real number per game. Where he does well is defensively, which is where I think next year has a lot of potential in general.

So I think Agbaji should see a minutes reduction, but I don't think Mitch should be playing more than 15 in any given game. If Mitch does prove to be a much improved player then he should and will get big minutes.

I have heard that Self is absolutely enamored with TGF, fwiw. @FarmerJayhawk Have you heard similar?

Self has gotten enamoured with plenty players before that didn't live up to his own hype. I've always been very skeptical of JuCo's because it's very common for JuCo player's to get overhyped and then come in and struggle. Rewatching TGF's JuCo tape, he's got some significant holes in his game that have me doubting how effective he'll be right away.

@FarmerJayhawk sorry, but Ochai really should not be starting or playing crunch time minutes for KU because he is a net negative for KU in end game scenarios and is someone that you can leave unguarded on offense with minimal risk of getting burned.

I absolutely think he'll have an adjustment period. In TGF's case it's not just Self either. NBA guys are really high on him as well.

He did make some boneheaded plays down the stretch last year, but also got put in some bad spots (Dotson wasn't a great passer and sometimes got tunnel vision). I expect his feel and basketball IQ to improve this year. He's still newish to the game and should make some progress. But could also see Braun in that role, especially if he keeps shooting 40+% from 3. Bill still loves Ochai's defense, and will play a lot. You may disagree, which is fine, but that's the way Self will play it.

Agbaji made stupid plays consistently all year long. There's little evidence his basketball IQ will improve because his situational awareness is garbage. Agbaji's defense is not good enough to compensate for just how bad he is on offense. Christian Braun is already a better all around player than Agbaji and should get all of Agbaji's minutes this year while Agbaji plays 15-20 mpg.

NBA guys loving players doesn't mean much to me honestly because they still focus a lot more on potential instead of production. Those same scouts after 2019 were projecting Agbaji to be a 1st round pick this upcoming 2020 draft at the time because of his tools. TGF has good tools, but there's just been too many JuCo players over the years, not specifically KU, that have been hyped to the moon as instant impact and potential NBA players that never amount to anything more than a role player at their school. Coaches and scouts always drool over players with the tools TGF and Agbaji have, but I'm to the point that players that get hyped by coaches like that have to prove it to me.

This is why I like Lightfoot so much. No, he's never going to be a guy to game plan around, but he's a guy that will go out and steal a couple of possessions a he, make good decisions with the basketball, get other players open with his screens and play sound, fundamental defense.

@Texas-Hawk-10 Tyon in place of Lightfoot.

Pay attention to KJ Adams who is announcing on the 31st.

@BShark Interesting. 24-7 listed him as 100% KU. They were a bit foggy as to his position though, as far as size and position? Is he a 3 or 4 or both? Any idea on his skill set.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

Pay attention to KJ Adams who is announcing on the 31st.

saw that - # 73 off 247 - -think he might or should be a little higher then that - -would be a nice pick up

this kind of caught me of guard , when I saw the headline my 1st reaction was must be Hickman - -then seen it was KJ - thing is another frontline player that makes him and Clemmons right " - -we kind of loaded there aren't we ? - I would think we could use more help in the Back court however IF we land Hickman that will help -let's do this - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Looks like Rivals is predicting Adams to KU also. - - - -KU 75 % - -Texas Tech 25 %

Here’s what I pulled from Rivals, “ No matter how you try to defend Adams, he is a hard object to move. When Adams gets the opportunity to get settled on the block and take on anyone when he has the ball in his hands, it usually results in points. Also, Adams gets out into the running lanes in transition, and he attacks hard and runs hard to get all the momentum possible on his way to the basket. Whether it's rebounding or scoring, everything he does at the rim is with force. Adams shows an in-your-face overall game and don't allow him to get the ball from a shooting stance because he will size up the basket and sink the mid-range jumper. His range does extend out to the arc, but you want him where he can get to ball off a missed shot.

With his bulk, athleticism, and strength, Adams has versatility to his game and he is a tough match-up at the high school level.”

Seen where w got 2 more CB'S off 247 for KJ - - makes 4 CB'S for the day. - -Checked rivals again it was 75 % to 25 % for Tech - -now KU at 80 % - -but Tech at 31 % - - - umm what ? lol

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

Seen where w got 2 more CB'S off 247 for KJ - - makes 4 CB'S for the day. - -Checked rivals again it was 75 % to 25 % for Tech - -now KU at 80 % - -but Tech at 31 % - - - umm what ? lol

KU has all the recent expert picks on Rivals. Texas Tech has no expert picks, but a lot of "fan" picks which I think are open to any account with a paid membership. Admittedly, their system can be a bit confusing.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

Seen where w got 2 more CB'S off 247 for KJ - - makes 4 CB'S for the day. - -Checked rivals again it was 75 % to 25 % for Tech - -now KU at 80 % - -but Tech at 31 % - - - umm what ? lol

KU has all the recent expert picks on Rivals. Texas Tech has no expert picks, but a lot of "fan" picks which I think are open to any account with a paid membership. Admittedly, their system can be a bit confusing.

ahhh ok -- thanks bud - - 247 just gave another - -that is 5 today - -thanks for you info appreciate that

New JUCO offer out

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KU not involved here but just another example of the rankings struggling to catch up: https://247sports.com/Player/Josh-Minott-46100032/ ↗

Unranked but top 5 of Texas, Memphis, Baylor, Maryland and Florida State.

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Sooo didn't see position played - - is he worth anything ?

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

New JUCO offer out

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Sooo didn't see position played - - is he worth anything ?

He’s a 5. 6’8 265, pure low post/rebounder type. Doke-esque touch from the line. https://www.loganvols.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/bios/curry_sydney_t8do ↗

@FarmerJayhawk Thank you for that. If we add him with Clemence, and sign Bates and a PG, I'm good.

@Marco said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk Thank you for that. If we add him with Clemence, and sign Bates and a PG, I'm good.

Any time. That’s kind of where I’m at as well. Without guaranteed PT or ability to put on official visits (where KU is the best in the biz) it’s going to be tough to reach into the top 25 to get guys.

@FarmerJayhawk also the ncaa bullshit.

Hickman would be ideal, need an impact guard with Garrett leaving.

Surprised we snuck into KJ's recruitment. Film always stuck out months back when I was looking for a quality 4 combo forward. Didn't think we had a chance but this looks like consolation from losing on a 5 star talent

I like what I'm seeing on youtube. Willing passer, finishes through contact, serviceable jump shot. And yeah seems like the staff turned up the heat after KB went to Baylor, where KJ was initially leaning. Basically a swap if you will.

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@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

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Sooo didn't see position played - - is he worth anything ?

He’s a 5. 6’8 265, pure low post/rebounder type. Doke-esque touch from the line. https://www.loganvols.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/bios/curry_sydney_t8do ↗

Oh Mercy Doke touch from the line lol - - -well work to do lol. - -Thanks for the info buddy

offered PG Rahsool Diggins committed to Uconn. As far as we know Hickman remains the main target and hopeful commitment at the PG position.

A Class of Clemence, Hickman & Adams would put KU 3rd in the Nation slightly behind Villanova and Baylor FYI.

Seems like a best case scenario class

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

offered PG Rahsool Diggins committed to Uconn. As far as we know Hickman remains the main target and hopeful commitment at the PG position.

UConn is back in the game. I see no reason why they shouldn't be the best basketball school in the AAC.

All things considered Hickman, Bates, Adams, Clemence and a warm body at the 5 would be a home run.

Not fully sure on Bates anymore or who the center will be. I'd be fine with the JUCO kid or Landers as long as Dave is back we don't need much immediately at the position. Hickman is the big immediate need. Yeah the staff likes Harris but Hickman would come in and start no doubt in my mind.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

offered PG Rahsool Diggins committed to Uconn. As far as we know Hickman remains the main target and hopeful commitment at the PG position.

UConn is back in the game. I see no reason why they shouldn't be the best basketball school in the AAC.

All things considered Hickman, Bates, Adams, Clemence and a warm body at the 5 would be a home run.

Not fully sure on Bates anymore or who the center will be. I'd be fine with the JUCO kid or Landers as long as Dave is back we don't need much immediately at the position. Hickman is the big immediate need. Yeah the staff likes Harris but Hickman would come in and start no doubt in my mind.

Yeah I would have said Salis or Bates but I think the ship has sailed with both tbh. Hickman and a true 5 and that's a solid 4 man class.

I really like Harris and Hickman would be a good complimentary PG to him, a little more scoring punch and just a good all around player imo. I think those two could coexist together if needed.

@BeddieKU23 Totally agree, like Frank and Graham. Always good to have more actual guards, as the roster is now we have a LOT of wings.

https://247sports.com/Player/DeAnte-Green-46094323/ ↗

Speaking of wing/forward type players. NC State is his "dream school" but it sounds like he will visit KU. Think it's one of those two or Louisville unless Nike swoops in.

@BShark Okay, call me a silver linings guy and correct me if I'm wrong, but with our abundance of wings doesn't KJ seem to be a better fit than KB?

@Marco I think the staff views them similarly given the press for Adams after whiffing on KB.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@Marco I think the staff views them similarly given the press for Adams after whiffing on KB.

THAT WOULD BE RIGHT ABOUT ADAMS

https://www.prospectiveinsight.com/post/nolan-hickman ↗

Good news is Adams is ultra productive. 23 and 9 for his HS team last year as a junior. Plenty of time to work on the jumper and his body. Ideally could be a nice small ball 4 man.

He has pretty good handles from the videos I saw. Could even play SF

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@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

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Sooo didn't see position played - - is he worth anything ?

He’s a 5. 6’8 265, pure low post/rebounder type. Doke-esque touch from the line. https://www.loganvols.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/bios/curry_sydney_t8do ↗

Been watching highlights. I think he might be the best realistic option we have at the 5. Yeah he's undersized but he is THICK and dunks frequently and violently. I think he would be a great back-up 5 for Dave next year.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

@jayballer73 said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

New JUCO offer out

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Sooo didn't see position played - - is he worth anything ?

He’s a 5. 6’8 265, pure low post/rebounder type. Doke-esque touch from the line. https://www.loganvols.com/sports/mbkb/2019-20/bios/curry_sydney_t8do ↗

Been watching highlights. I think he might be the best realistic option we have at the 5. Yeah he's undersized but he is THICK and dunks frequently and violently. I think he would be a great back-up 5 for Dave next year.

I was thinking Joey Dorsey as a comp. Starting 5 for Memphis when we beat them in 08. Not the shot blocker Dorsey was, but a really good rebounder and effort guy.

@FarmerJayhawk reasonable comp. Actually extremely similar size too. Do you know where he is on the priority list? Self seems more grounded lately but wondering if the staff thinks they have a shot at Reid, Kepnang, Etienne etc..

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk reasonable comp. Actually extremely similar size too. Do you know where he is on the priority list? Self seems more grounded lately but wondering if the staff thinks they have a shot at Reid, Kepnang, Etienne etc..

They’d take any of those guys before Curry. It doesn’t make a lot of sense to take Curry as your only center type guy because he’s only a year behind Dave. I do think it makes some sense to take Curry and a freshman as an insurance policy against Dave going pro (don’t think that’s going to happen) or a transfer.

Curry played for the same school as Jay Scrubb who was the Juco that went pro instead of going to Louisville this year.

@FarmerJayhawk yeah that's logical in a normal situation. I'm just not sure they can land any of those guys or the other 5s on the 24/7 target list in the current climate.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Good news is Adams is ultra productive. 23 and 9 for his HS team last year as a junior. Plenty of time to work on the jumper and his body. Ideally could be a nice small ball 4 man.

Just saw this. Yeah he compiled stats and his team won a lot. 33-2.

BSnow used that same term, production. Also seen it mentioned that he is known for his toughness and rebounding prowess. This kid, assuming he does come to KU, is going to be like Ochai, Lucas, Agbaji and play way more than many fans think he should. So in that sense, I feel this is a smart decision for him lol.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Good news is Adams is ultra productive. 23 and 9 for his HS team last year as a junior. Plenty of time to work on the jumper and his body. Ideally could be a nice small ball 4 man.

Just saw this. Yeah he compiled stats and his team won a lot. 33-2.

BSnow used that same term, production. Also seen it mentioned that he is known for his toughness and rebounding prowess. This kid, assuming he does come to KU, is going to be like Ochai, Lucas, Agbaji and play way more than many fans think he should. So in that sense, I feel this is a smart decision for him lol.

He is coming to ku

@JAYHAWKFAN214 ST Johns had 100% pick rates for Jordan Riley until the day before his announcement when everybody pivoted to Georgetown, we will see.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@JAYHAWKFAN214 ST Johns had 100% pick rates for Jordan Riley until the day before his announcement when everybody pivoted to Georgetown, we will see.

It will be us on Friday

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@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk reasonable comp. Actually extremely similar size too. Do you know where he is on the priority list? Self seems more grounded lately but wondering if the staff thinks they have a shot at Reid, Kepnang, Etienne etc..

They’d take any of those guys before Curry. It doesn’t make a lot of sense to take Curry as your only center type guy because he’s only a year behind Dave. I do think it makes some sense to take Curry and a freshman as an insurance policy against Dave going pro (don’t think that’s going to happen) or a transfer.

Taking Curry as a bridge to give Gethro an extra year to develop isn't the worst option. I also can't see Dave leaving early either so by the time Curry would be gone, Gethro would be entering his 3rd year at KU at that point and be refined enough to start

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Good news is Adams is ultra productive. 23 and 9 for his HS team last year as a junior. Plenty of time to work on the jumper and his body. Ideally could be a nice small ball 4 man.

Just saw this. Yeah he compiled stats and his team won a lot. 33-2.

BSnow used that same term, production. Also seen it mentioned that he is known for his toughness and rebounding prowess. This kid, assuming he does come to KU, is going to be like Ochai, Lucas, Agbaji and play way more than many fans think he should. So in that sense, I feel this is a smart decision for him lol.

Adams level of competition in HS last year was pure garbage. Take anything I've ever said about the quality of the HS competition Quentin Grimes faced in Houston and copy/paste to Adams except Austin is worse than Houston. The D/FW area is the only area in Texas where there's a lot of quality basketball teams.

10000% love KJ'S Instagram comit video 2 minute 56 second video just really love the way he put this together, one of the better one's I have seen for awhile.

This kid below the rim Player ? - -I Call Total BULL SHIT. - i have seen Multiple , Multiple video's and when the opportunity , the time is there , the kid is ABOVE the rim , has no problem flushing the dam thing , pretty decent looking J - thanks I'll take him in a minute thank you very much - - NEXT ! ! ! - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

So about that car? Tell me it's not his!

@Crimsonorblue22 said in 2021 Recruiting:

So about that car? Tell me it's not his!

Probably got it from Scot Pollard. :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

boy what a mess my account screwed up

Take it with a BIG grain of salt here but Corey Evans on Rivals is predicting KU might be a contender for

Deron Holmes 6'8 PF #37 ranked player from Montverde Fl. No substance to the claim there but interesting to note as he's a guy I haven't seen mentioned before.

Quick video scout, Can Shoot the 3, athletic, above average rim protector, would not want him handling the ball.

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

Take it with a BIG grain of salt here but Corey Evans on Rivals is predicting KU might be a contender for

Deron Holmes 6'8 PF #37 ranked player from Montverde Fl. No substance to the claim there but interesting to note as he's a guy I haven't seen mentioned before.

KU does want him. I figured no chance in hell if AZ wanted him.

@BShark

What's AZ's pull with him?

KU is not a contender to 5 star Harrison Ingram. Figured with no recent mention of him with KU

@BeddieKU23 Holmes is from Arizona originally.

KU did not make Ingram's final 6.

@BShark

thx. I would take Holmes in a heartbeat and call it a day in the post.

Class of 2021Sam ayomide is a center has get a offer from Kansas

Unranked but offers from Memphis, Illinois, LSU and now Kansas. 6'11'' and long. I bet he will shoot up the rankings.

👀 Ayomide.

@BShark

Looks very raw in skill but he's a big boy.

Have fun with this name.

Kok Yat #129 prospect now in 21 (was #79 in 22), a 6'8 forward from Norcross Georgia has reclassified into the 2021 class and says KU is among 3 programs prioritizing him at the moment

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

Have fun with this name.

Kok Yat #129 prospect now in 21 (was #79 in 22), a 6'8 forward from Norcross Georgia has reclassified into the 2021 class and says KU is among 3 programs prioritizing him at the moment

need to put some weight on him tho

Bryce Hopkins decommitted from Louisville. We don't need a wing but would take.

@BShark Give us your prediction... Who else do you think that we'll sign? Where is @jayballer73 and @FarmerJayhawk?

Who?

I think for 2021 we can sign five players, two spots already taken. Who are the other three? That all hinging, ofcourse, on whether we have a season. Let's just say - hypothetical - that we have a season and with two spots already taken we still have 3 to give out (and that is another debate, who will leave early). Who do you think it will be? I never saw Clemence or Adams coming, so don't ask me.

@Marco said in 2021 Recruiting:

@BShark Give us your prediction... Who else do you think that we'll sign? Where is @jayballer73 and @FarmerJayhawk?

I’ll take Hickman, Bates, and Landers. Just guessing on Landers though. I really don’t know what we’re doing with bigs.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

Bryce Hopkins decommitted from Louisville. We don't need a wing but would take.

We wouldn't have a shot at him anyways even if we did need a wing. - -read the article why he de-committed from Louisville and he was quoted as saying the uncertainty of Sanctions and hearing about it and not knowing - -would be the same thing with us

@Marco Here I am buddy. My account got all screwed up , couldn't sign in no matter what , so I am now a new user under Jayballer 67

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

I really don’t know what we’re doing with bigs.

Offering every single available one as far as I can tell.

Just to let everyone know - - I'm still here yippee. My whole computer system went whacko had to come up with a whole new username - -but ol Jayballer 54/67 not really alot going on anyways - -I'll be gla when NLI day rolls around so we know who exactly we DO have in Football & Basketball. - - Going to have the usual de-commits in football I think- - BIGGEST one I wonder about is the Coleman kid is think it's kind shaky - long time till Dec -- hope I'm wrong

Tamar bates class of 2021 seven finalists of teams ku Oregon lowa state Alabama Texas mizzou Creighton

Bates will be a Jayhawk if we really push.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Bates will be a Jayhawk if we really push.

So do we really want to push ? -- -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

So, what are the flaws in Bates' game? It seems to be a no-brainer that we try our asses off to sign him, but I'm not Coach Self or his staff. @FarmerJayhawk would there be a reason why we wouldn't make a push?

@Marco said in 2021 Recruiting:

So, what are the flaws in Bates' game? It seems to be a no-brainer that we try our asses off to sign him, but I'm not Coach Self or his staff. @FarmerJayhawk would there be a reason why we wouldn't make a push?

Not really a shooter and has a lot of work to do on his body. A year at IMG should do him wonders.

@Marco

Defense. Playing against good competition which the switch to IMG could mitigate. Typical 4 star prospect that doesn't have elite skills

Wow. Dook landed Paolo Banchero. Big surprise. That class could be stacked if they land Baldwin (dook vs. Milwaukee there).

@FarmerJayhawk barf

Made JD Davison’s top 6. Don’t really think we’re a factor.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Made JD Davison’s top 6. Don’t really think we’re a factor.

Well he's from checks notes Alabama and all the others schools are does spit take Nike. I would tend to agree.

Think I've said from the beginning not to expect Davison playing College hoops

Welp 🐦 View Tweet?s=21

@FarmerJayhawk As always, it's Nolan Hickman time.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Made JD Davison’s top 6. Don’t really think we’re a factor.

Well he's from checks notes Alabama and all the others schools are does spit take Nike. I would tend to agree.

He's basically going to end up at Auburn

Well Dam , if this turns out to be fact , then we come up with a big fat Zelch in our recruitment of a PG for next year. After reading posts from TOS it's sounding like were getting screwed in our recruitment of Nolan Hickman.

Post said that Corey Evans had changed his pick from KU to Kentucky for Hickman , and there was some other guy saying the same thing saying that Duke and Kentucky both had gotten into the picture - this would flat suck.

You can't tell me that with the cloudy future that lays ahead of KU with the NCAA
that it hasn't kicked us right square in the jewels this Season & you can take it to the bank that these others Schools are just taking that fact and flat out running to the bank with that.

It would be so nice to have a Season where we could just focus on the game instead of having to worry year after year about the NCAA or the eligibility or other things with our players. Silvio , Cheick D. , Billy , Cliff to name a few- - When is the last time we had calm waters ? - -4-5 years ago maybe ? - - getting old real fast.

Fuggin Nike.

It’s over

Looks like Hickman will end up at Kentucky. Is that who were talking about @FarmerJayhawk in your last post??

@Woodrow said in 2021 Recruiting:

Looks like Hickman will end up at Kentucky. Is that who were talking about @FarmerJayhawk in your last post??

Yep. Offer and commitment will come soon.

Yep already official. Bleh.

Guess we are hoping for Tamar Bates. Would be nice if Sallis just popped for UNC soon and the staff could press all-in.

Well Dam , if this turns out to be fact , then we come up with a big fat Zelch in our recruitment of a PG for next year. After reading posts from TOS it's sounding like were getting screwed in our recruitment of Nolan Hickman.

Post said that Corey Evans had changed his pick from KU to Kentucky for Hickman , and there was some other guy saying the same thing saying that Duke and Kentucky both had gotten into the picture - this would flat suck.

You can't tell me that with the cloudy future that lays ahead of u with the NCAA
that it hasn't kicked us right square in the jewels this Season & you can take it to the bank that these others Schools are just taking that fact and flat out running to the bank with that.

It would be so nice to have a Season where we could just focus on the game instead of having to worry year after year

At this point I don't care if Farmer joe comes and runs the point for us - - this crap is pathetic

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

Guess we are hoping for Tamar Bates. Would be nice if Sallis just popped for UNC soon and the staff could press all-in.

At this point I don't care if Farmer Joe comes in and runs point for us - -this is getting really pathetic. All Kentucky or Duke has to do is say Hi and it's ballgame - big load of crap

Well that was fast. Too bad Bill could t get Hickman to pop earlier, but right now if Duke or UK come calling we have zero shot.

@Woodrow said in 2021 Recruiting:

Well that was fast. Too bad Bill could t get Hickman to pop earlier, but right now if Duke or UK come calling we have zero shot.

ZERO SHOT it's like Night and Day

This is hilarious

@BeddieKU23 said in 2021 Recruiting:

This is hilarious

what is so hilarious ?

Tamar Bates will end up at Texas.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

Tamar Bates will end up at Texas.

Bot that's good news lol - - holy crap

Don’t think KU ever pushed that hard.

Double hilarious

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Don’t think KU ever pushed that hard.

What the hell is the staff doing at the guard spot?

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Don’t think KU ever pushed that hard.

What the hell is the staff doing at the guard spot?

Sallis is still #1 on their board for sure. Beyond that, I think they go transfer. The lack of grassroots ball this spring and summer unfortunately means a lot of guys the staff would snatch up just didn’t get discovered.

Yeah no way on Sallis. No aau is a bummer.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Don’t think KU ever pushed that hard.

This doesn’t make much sense to me. A local kid who would be a 4 year player is they type of kid they should take in a heartbeat right now. It’s clear they can’t recruit with the big boys so Sallis is a complete pipe dream.

All of a sudden it seems to be a damn good thing that Jossell is still around.

Anyone seen Keon Coleman play basketball in person. He’s a guard I keep forgetting about from the 2021 class that’s joining us to play football and basketball

Pretty good chance he never makes it to KU.

Oh really? Why is that? Academics or being swooped up by a different school for football. I’ve always found it weird how many kids verbal declare but switch to other programs later

@jayhawks2010 Another school. The word from the start was that there was work to go to make sure he stayed committed to KU.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

Pretty good chance he never makes it to KU.

Color me much more optimistic here. FSU and lil Carolina are lurking but he’s a Jayhawk until he isn’t.

Davison called us one of his dream schools. Means we're officially out 😂

@BShark thanks for the info! Let’s hope we can keep him.

I hope so. I think he's a game changer in football.

@BShark said in 2021 Recruiting:

I hope so. I think he's a game changer in football.

I think for optics as much as production. Kids look at the kind of recruits a place gets as a signal that it's a good place to be. Especially in football. Basketball can be more complicated in that regard since there's the shoe circuit albatross out there.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2021 Recruiting:

Davison called us one of his dream schools. Means we're officially out 😂

Ahhh the Ol kiss of Death lol.- -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

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