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Read where Georgia Tech got HAMMERED. by NCAA

4 years of Probation - - -A 19-20 Post Season Ban for Men's Basketball. - - A fine of 5,000 dollars plus 2 % of Men's Basketball Budget. - -A reduction of ONE men's Basketball Scholarship during each year of Probation - - Recruiting restriction for the men's Basketball program that will apply for each year of probation including :

8 week ban on official Visits

A 3 visit reduction from the permissible number of official visits

A 8 week ban on recruiting Communication

A reduction of 19 recruiting person days from the permissible number.

A 3 year show cause order for the former assistant Coach during that period , any NCAA member School employing him must restrict him from any athletically related duties - unless it shows cause why restrictions should not apply.

A vacation of Records in which the Men's Basketball athletes competed while ineligible - -The University must provide written report containing the contests impacted to the NCAA media Coordination and statistic staff within 14 days of Public release.

A probation from scheduling offical visits in conjunction with home men's Basketball Competitions during the first two years of probation.

Disassociation of the following individuals

3 years of Disassociation of the former Assistant Coach

3 years disassociation of former Georgia Tech men's Basketball Student-Athlete Booster

Disassociation of the Head Coach's friend - -Booster

Holy Crap Hammered - -things to come ? - -This come from taking a Dukie to a Strip Club - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

The committee that decided Georgia Techs fate is different then the committee set to deal with the fbi trial fiasco.

Also reading this it seems like people lied, and tried to get others to lie to cover what happened.

Meanwhile Wendell Carter has now been linked to 2 different booster agent deals now. Still crickets for Duke playing a player that was receiving impermissible benefits

@BeddieKU23 is it correct the GT has been in trouble 3 times since 2011? Read that somewhere. Idk

@Crimsonorblue22

Read that from an article so I assume it is true

Talking about this now on a Sports Talk program. - They are all saying that this with Georgia Tech doesn't bode well for KU at all. - Talks about how the NCAA committee looks like it is carrying a big stick and wants to punishments harshly.

They say the Big thing here is - that basically bottom line KU is going to have to prove that TJ Gassnola - -was/is not a Booster to KU. - -They're saying Georgia Tech had 3 Level one Violations - -and said KU basically is facing 5 level one violations - - saying that Georgia Tech has no charge of Coaching control as Coach Self faces - -or Institutional Control

Saying yes - - The Georgia Tech was a lot more of a slam dunk - -pretty concrete -as to where KU'S case is verbiage - - there is a lot that they don't know yet - - Georgia Tech was pretty much cut and dry - - basically a Coach inviting boosters to come back and hang out with kids

Also stated there had been no previous charges against Coach Self - -where as Georgia Tech had JUST gotten off probation - - saying lots of Appeals Hearings to come - -Saying KU they feel will fight this to the Very end , saying that and I'm not clear on this they wee talking about they KU could - - always drop something that would remove the possibility of TJ being a booster - -No mater this thing is just ugly mess and they said KU recruiting going to be a diaster

Punished for Duke. Par for the course.

Cracks form... I think the NCAA will sue over it and at minimum drag it out. But hoping we get significant policy diffusion and Congress takes the lead here. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-09-30/college-athlete-endorsement-deals-ncaa-california-law ↗

@FarmerJayhawk

If the NCAA were to sue, schools in California could just leave the NCAA. Basically be ineligible for the tournament, etc., but there are enough schools (and people, and dollars) in California that they could form their own association if they wanted to.

Who here thinks that the timing on this will hurt or benefit KU?

I'd like to think it will help KU, but probably only in the court of public opinion. I don't see any direct benefit to our specific case.

Anyone can leave the NCAA. If the California schools wanted to leave, they would have left. The schools are against it.

Here is a Pac-12 statement. A touch similar to things heard here -

The Pac-12 said Monday in a statement that it is "disappointed" in the passage of the bill because the conference believes it "will have very significant negative consequences for our student-athletes and broader universities in California."

"This legislation will lead to the professionalization of college sports and many unintended consequences related to this professionalism, imposes a state law that conflicts with national rules, will blur the lines for how California universities recruit student-athletes and compete nationally, and will likely reduce resources and opportunities for student-athletes in Olympic sports and have a negative disparate impact on female student-athletes," the Pac-12 said in its statement.

"Our universities have led important student-athlete reform over the past years, but firmly believe all reforms must treat our student-athletes as students pursuing an education, and not as professional athletes. We will work with our universities to determine next steps and ensure continuing support for our student-athletes."

HighEliteMajor said:

Anyone can leave the NCAA. If the California schools wanted to leave, they would have left. The schools are against it.

Here is a Pac-12 statement. A touch similar to things heard here -

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The Pac-12 said Monday in a statement that it is "disappointed" in the passage of the bill because the conference believes it "will have very significant negative consequences for our student-athletes and broader universities in California."

"This legislation will lead to the professionalization of college sports and many unintended consequences related to this professionalism, imposes a state law that conflicts with national rules, will blur the lines for how California universities recruit student-athletes and compete nationally, and will likely reduce resources and opportunities for student-athletes in Olympic sports and have a negative disparate impact on female student-athletes," the Pac-12 said in its statement.

"Our universities have led important student-athlete reform over the past years, but firmly believe all reforms must treat our student-athletes as students pursuing an education, and not as professional athletes. We will work with our universities to determine next steps and ensure continuing support for our student-athletes."

The schools can’t decide that. They need approval of the UC BoR and the legislature.

Lol at it costing the universities a dime. They apparently support unlimited in kind donations to each student athlete but some local car dealer wants to pay a kid for a commercial and it’s Armageddon for the schools? It sure ended the Olympics when they allowed those athletes to profit. Just terrible for the Olympics. Whatever happened to them?

Non-facetiously, it’s very difficult to square the arguments the NCAA and its organs are making: that 1) this would only apply to very few student-athletes and 2) it would destroy college sports forever. The ideal of amateurism hasn’t existed for decades. It can’t be enforced, the schools by their actions don’t believe in it, and even the parent organization takes in over $1 billion per year, of which they kept over $100 million just for funsies, not to actually try to enforce any rules they say they care so much about. The sooner the P5 decides to govern themselves the better.

So if Wendell Carter got prostitutes on his visits, wouldn't that be impermissible benefits and deem him ineligible? I mean it would at any other school. SDS is in trouble for stuff he didnt take from a school he didnt go to.

@jayballer73 The longer KU fights theses charges and I'm not saying the shouldn't, recruiting is going to be challenging.

In a move that puts California on a collision course with the NCAA, Gov. Gavin Newsom has signed a bill effectively allowing college athletes in the state to earn compensation for the use of their likeness, sign endorsement deals and hire agents to represent them.

This has to scare the NCAA. They may want to tread more carefully as at least 20 other states are considering similar laws.

Edit: N. Carolina is in line considered next in line followed by Washington and S. Carolina.

And we're all waiting with baited breath, and in the end - and they need to wrap it up already! - we will (Coach Marco says) receive what amounts to being denied toilet paper after taking a dump, but allowing us to quickly jump in the shower.