Attempt to back up the brinks truck.
Lol such a drama queen
Would you take him as head coach if Self was gone? I would.
Bwag said:
Would you take him as head coach if Self was gone? I would.
Of course. Would I fire Self? That’s a galaxy brain taek
@FarmerJayhawk Wouldn't fire Self at all. Not even a consideration. But would love to have him breakdown the Wright's defense scheme and begin to incorporate some of those principles. We may win some of the games against them, but other than when the last Final 4 game where they were just outstanding shooters at all 5 spots, I would say we typically have the personnel edge.
Small secret here...
I don't blame Self too much for the gameplan today outside of maybe playing two bigs a bit much. Garrett going down sucks. A lot of this loss is on the players.
He certainly has Self's number. we were #1 for an entire week. Sometimes I swear that every Bill Self team is the same team w/one notable difference. In 2008, I thought we would have won at least one more by now.
J Wright > KU, Bill Self. Wright comes into KU and leaves with what seemed to be a sure get, Jeremiah Robinson-Earl. Losing to Nova sucks but they have pushed themselves to a better program.
It seems every year we miss needed FTs, 3-pointers, too many turnovers, not enough scorers, poor clock management, and generally bad basketball. Today's game was just more of the same.
This one is not on Self. He made the adjustment of going to a 4-1 (maybe he should have done it earlier) and it brought us back into the game. It's not his fault that his players missed a ton of wide-open lay-ups, shot 4-10 from the free-throw line, failed to secure defensive rebounds, and turned the ball over. If we do any of those things we win the game. This one is on the players.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
This one is not on Self. He made the adjustment of going to a 4-1 (maybe he should have done it earlier) and it brought us back into the game. It's not his fault that his players missed a ton of wide-open lay-ups, shot 4-10 from the free-throw line, failed to secure defensive rebounds, and turned the ball over. If we do any of those things we win the game. This one is on the players.
Is the roster his fault? No excuse to not have shooters. Recruit a 3 star that can shoot. Stop being enamored with "athletes". I don't give a crap how "smart" guys like Marcus Garret are. Players like him are not going to win games in March. The object of the game is to put the ball in the basket.
This loss takes us all the way down to gasp #14 on KenPom in offense. THE HORROR
You guys are ridiculous. The roster is fine. Sometimes we lose games. Kansas ranks 61/353 in 3P% and 2/353 in overall field goal percentage. I support HCBS and I think he's doing a great job.
61st in 3p% with probably the largest center in college. If you have a layup with a guy like that and cant surround him with shooters then its a roster problem.
@BShark I put it on scheduling, we never play worth a crap in this game switch it with last Saturday’s game and probably win both. The players weren’t focused and Garrett went down is why we lost. Play a cupcake in this game Bill, the guys are focused on going home for the holidays not basketball.
BigBad said:
61st in 3p% with probably the largest center in college. If you have a layup with a guy like that and cant surround him with shooters then its a roster problem.
We’re 48th now, 1 make a way from 37th. Fickle stat.
First road game did not go so well. Why are we surprised in the least bit? Just the heart wrenching end I suppose. Dang I hate losing to nova.
@jhawk7782 Hell, why not huck up enough bricks. You make enough and win? Who cares? They won bricks and all. This Nova team lives and dies by the trey. It will not serve them well in most games. That shot by Samuels was the luckiest dumbass shot all day. They were shooting way too many 3s.
KU didn't look comfortable at all. Garrett had to be the difference. Nova pretty much knew if a key player leaves the court, they sneak a win at home. But of all the stupid crap in this game, I gotta give Nova fans credit, they didn't rush the court.
I would not fire Self, however, if he leaves, I'd go after Jay Wright with full force to become our next HC.
truehawk93 said:
But of all the stupid crap in this game, I gotta give Nova fans credit, they didn't rush the court.
Nova owns KU, no need to rush the court. It’s why I want to see the series continue as well. Bill needs to figure this crap out pronto!
Found Jay’s favorite selfie !CB6E353A-F8E0-4101-A5E1-ACCC016561B3.jpeg ↗
Lots of learning to do! We only had 3 fouls. D dot could've should've done a lot of different things. Maybe he was mentally tired too, Marcus usually does help him out. I hope Marcus is getting treatment.
Got pounded by Creighton today. Sheesh.
We will! We r better!
@Crimsonorblue22 I get the error "category does not exist" whenever I try to make a new thread in any section.
On phone? I just tried and can’t do it on phone. Test was on ipad
No categories
I'm getting this error on desktop.
BShark said:
@Crimsonorblue22 I get the error "category does not exist" whenever I try to make a new thread in any section.
I have had a category that I posted so long ago that I forgot what it was originally titled that someone other than myself totally edited - turned it into some kind of non-legible rant. I cannot drink enough beer to write that badly.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game?gameId=401168306 ↗
You love to see it.
Announcer was awesome, he brought the heat on that play. "Kamar Baldwin is a bad bad man". Hard to get a call better then that.
This is as bad as I've seen Nova and we still lost to them. Sad.
Maybe so, but they're still ranked in the Top 10 and not a bad team at all. If this is their worst team then honestly that's pretty impressive for their program. Also, we lost on the road, by 1 point, without Marcus Garrett down the stretch, in a game that we should have won. I think we beat them in a rematch on a neutral court.
@KirkIsMyHinrich SHU was taking them from behind when I made that post. Should have waited.
It's going back and forth. Seton Hall with Powell is a nice team.
@BShark said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL JAY WRIGHT:
This is as bad as I've seen Nova and we still lost to them. Sad.
Shit our pants on the road, Garrett was hurt and we sucked
Dot 💩 his pants
I want them again, not afraid
@BShark said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL JAY WRIGHT:
This is as bad as I've seen Nova and we still lost to them. Sad.
That was the road game before Christmas break, KU historically sucks in that game under Self.
North Carolina with a choke job of epic proportions
@BeddieKU23 said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL JAY WRIGHT:
North Carolina with a choke job of epic proportions
Bad shots early in the shot clock, missed FTs (some barely getting to the rim) and matador defense in the last 4 minutes....
@Texas-Hawk-10 except we played well till dot 💩 the bed.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL JAY WRIGHT:
Dot 💩 his pants
Forgot about that, tried to block it out
Baylor is unreal lucky
Vital is so sneaky, and they flop a lot. We use to piss him off and he lost focus!
Cole Anthony not hi bbiq
Well, that made me look foolish
I thought he needed to run clock
That Baylor-OSU game was one of the most poorly officiated games I've ever seen.
Hurt, zero pts
Call sucks
Out of bounds
On the sideline?
Ya Ted Valentine missed that call. It should have been a foul on Duke.
Even Baylor fans are saying Oklahoma St got jobbed by the officials. Yikes
@BeddieKU23 said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL JAY WRIGHT:
Baylor is unreal lucky
Okie State got hosed in those last minutes. As you know that was not any 8 point game , not even a four point game. -- I don't blame Boyton AT ALL
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL JAY WRIGHT:
That Baylor-OSU game was one of the most poorly officiated games I've ever seen.
Understatement of the night
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL JAY WRIGHT:
Ya Ted Valentine missed that call. It should have been a foul on Duke.
Even Baylor fans are saying Oklahoma St got jobbed by the officials. Yikes
Which call? They called an offensive foul on likekelia making a basket and nobody knows what they called besides getting it wrong
How they miss the foul call on Moore that gave them possession is one of those calls only a Duke gets
Boyton handled it better than most coaches. He even shook the Baylor team and coaches hands on his way out. The problem I have is that if we win ether of those games in that fashion it would be on ESPNs home page like it has in the past with us. This not a chance, they don’t have the balls to ever question a Dook game. They won’t with Baylor because it wasn’t us and no one cares about basketball in Texas.
ROUGH GAME FOR JAYBALLERS EMPEROR SCOTT DREW
Haha here we go...
@BShark said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
ROUGH GAME FOR JAYBALLERS EMPEROR SCOTT DREW
your right. - -Have a nice day
@jayballer73 you are a sport buddy
https://247sports.com/player/angelo-brizzi-46085167/ ↗
How many threes will this kid hit against us in the tournament as a RS JR for Nova?
@Crimsonorblue22 I was thinking eight and Jay wins again.
Bill needs to call Jay for tips with this year's roster.
This team does not have the DNA for a typical Self offense. Need to scrap the screen game because Mitch and Dave suck at it. Drive and kick. Minimize dumping it into Dave. Spray threes.
Bill is smart, excited to see the post Christmas offense.
BILLANOVA LMAO
I was told we don’t want to go Rockets/Warriors small ball because it doesn’t win
@Kcmatt7 said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
I was told we don’t want to go Rockets/Warriors small ball because it doesn’t win
I see someone likes twisting what other people say to fit their narrative instead of using statements in context.
I never mentioned the Warriors because they never played a 5 guard line up. They always had a post player whether it was Andrew Bogut, Javale McGee, Kevon Looney, or Boogie Cousins.
And guess what, the Rockets small ball experiment failed because they got ran off the court when they ran into a team with a legit front court.
A 5 guard line up can win games, but it doesn't win championships. KU will not win a national title with Jalen Wilson at the 5.
I think it's pretty clear this team isn't winning a title, they might be a second weekend team though. Next year could be really promising.
@Texas-Hawk-10 I didn’t twist anything.
And this team isn’t winning a title with Dave at the 5 either lmao
Also the Warriors played small ball lol.
Rockets only lost when the lakers switched to small ball and stopped playing davis at the 4. They got worked when they played Howard and McGee. Lakers were just better at small ball lol.... this team can absolutely win playing small. They have several 6”5-6”8 guards. No reason to think you need a big guy. Sure there will be a game that Dave or Mitch will help but the best team ku has is playing small
@jayhawks2010 said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
Rockets only lost when the lakers switched to small ball and stopped playing davis at the 4. They got worked when they played Howard and McGee. Lakers were just better at small ball lol.... this team can absolutely win playing small. They have several 6”5-6”8 guards. No reason to think you need a big guy. Sure there will be a game that Dave or Mitch will help but the best team ku has is playing small
Rockets got their ass kicked by Anthony Davis because they didn't have anyone big enough to guard him. That's the damn point is that Rockets got their asses handed to them once they ran into a legit big man in Anthony Davis. None of the Lakers wins were competitive at all and even in the one game the Rockets won in that series, Davis still dominated the paint.
Don't come at me trying to claim the Lakers played small ball against the Rockets when Anthony Davis played more minutes than anyone for LA in that series because the Rockets couldn't stop him with anyone on their roster.
Literally nobody stopped AD all year though 😂. Small or big. He’s a top 5 player in the world rn. It had nothing to do with strategy.
@Kcmatt7 said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
Literally nobody stopped AD all year though 😂. Small or big. He’s a top 5 player in the world rn. It had nothing to do with strategy.
Actually that was their strategy because the Lakers played through AD instead of LeBron James that entire series except for game 1. But if you think AD is a better player than LeBron and that the Lakers played through AD instead LeBron all year, I can't do much for you on that one. That was their game plan because the Rockets literally had nobody to match up with Davis unlike LeBron and the Lakers exploited the hell out of that strategy to run the Rockets off the court in games 2-5.
@Texas-Hawk-10 pick any 5 in the NBA, put them on the Rockets, and the Lakers are still the NBA champs
@Kcmatt7 said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
@Texas-Hawk-10 pick any 5 in the NBA, put them on the Rockets, and the Lakers are still the NBA champs
No shit, how many times have I told you specifically that the Rockets system would never win a championship? And guess what, it got Mike D'Antoni fired because his system cannot beat elite teams. He's proved it in Phoenix with Nash and Stoudemire by failing to beat Kobe, he proved in New York where the Knicks were an absolute shitshow and he proved it in Houston with Harden and Paul/Westbrook that even with elite players, his system doesn't win championships.
It also doesn't change that LA played through AD instead of LeBron against the Rockets because the Rockets didn't have anybody capable of slowing him down unlike LeBron.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Do I wish we had a formidable front court?
Absolutely. “No shit”
Do we? Nope.
So run and gun small ball is how this team will perform the best this year. It isn’t that hard to see.
That isn’t a “shit take” it is just a regular one.
The Warriors have won it all with small ball being an integral part of their strategy. As has Villanova.
Yes, Dave will need to put in 15-20 minutes a game for this team to be successful.
If KU loses in the tourney because they run into a good front court it won’t be because KU played small. It will be because KU lacked the talent/depth to play big.
There is a difference.
@Texas-Hawk-10
I feel like you didn’t watch the series. Lakers play davis at the 4 normally. Against the rockets they couldn’t do that and had to stop playing their centers. Davis went to the 5 and had a mismatch but he is also a modern big guy who can step away... if you watched the series you know that the best line up plus to minus ratio was the Rondo, LeBron, Morris, Caruso pairing. With either kuzma or davis in the game... yes a legit center who can stretch the floor is better, but if you don’t have it on your team, 5 guards is an option. Rockets still had a great season, but lost to a better team... looks like so far you were wrong on your Wilson take to start the season. He looks like he will have an impact this year.
No one is saying you have to totally throw away the idea of McCormick playing but if he doesn’t play better you have to make the change. This team can be a top 10 team playing 5 guards.
@jayhawks2010 are you saying the Lakers realized they sucked with their 5 and decided they had a lot of length and decided to just use that instead of trying to play a worse player? And they won!?
No. Can’t be true. Doesn’t work. I’ve “specifically” been told.
I think Dave will have to earn his minutes on the floor just like the other guys will. This already feels a bit like last year... when we kept trying to force two bigs on the floor and it just didn't work. Now... it's just one.
I do think it is too early to know how it will go, but from what I saw in two games, I think the only time we ever showed in game flow was the second half of today's game with 5 guards. Harris was sick. It was like turning a switch on when he came out there.
I know, I know... guard the paint. But that's only true if your big guy is moving his feet. I was hoping to see big improvements in Dave's feet but didn't really see that in these two games. He definitely is in better shape and moves better... but not seeing him being a real force enough yet to say let's slow the game down for Dave.
With Harris out there we started running St. Joe right out of the gym. Fast break finishes? Huh? Us? Seems like forever since we had scoring from the open court.
That period where Harris came in and we watched the game tempo change should be a definite lesson. Tempo is key to success with this team. The Zag game and the first half and some minutes into the second half we looked stiff and tentative. Harris enters the game and quickly draws his first charge. He was involved in several defensive stops and that alone made a big difference. Then add in the flow he brought to our offense. That was a fun part to watch. The ball didn't stick!
I'm not even sure we would have won that game without Harris. We kept letting St. Joe stick around, just like we let the Zags keep pulling away. In those moments we had no control of tempo and played awkward and sluggish.
Even in half court offense, Harris made a big difference. He's a natural play maker... setting guys up... sometimes even a few passes ahead of the finish, like a chess pro plays moves ahead. He definitely sees more of the game than others and the game moves slow for him. As of right now, he looks like our salvation to run him with Marcus because I'm just not convinced Marcus is enough of a play maker to run the show. Could be we do what we do best, and run two PGs (or slip Marcus back to the 2).
I know we have to see more evolve before jumping to conclusions. But I am feeling jazzed up with Harris. He performed just like his reputation that preceded him. I think he's the real deal... and hope it... because I want to see the brand of basketball he brought today on a regular basis! He'll make all our guys look a lot better and they will all spark up and perform at a better flow!
@BShark said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
I think it's pretty clear this team isn't winning a title, they might be a second weekend team though. Next year could be really promising.
Agree they just don't have that right combo to win a title this year. With a Big OR playing small.
We don't have a talented enough Big to hold himself up against talented Big's to carry us through with the others w got. - - We won't win this with 5 guard small ball either THIS year.
We could be Ok with the small line up for awhile but somewhere through this we will run up against a team say - oh I don't know maybe - - just maybe a team like oh - - GONZAGA - -or BAYLOR and could be others that have that big frontcourt that would just eat our lunch in the game like Gonzaga did.
Coach Self said in this post game that we couldn't play that way the entire Season, and mentioned we couldn't play that way the entire Season in the Big 12 , Saying that Dave is going to have to play. Were gonna have a good Season this year , gonna be fun to watch - -well at times anyways , there is likely going to be some games where it might NOT be fun to watch but hell that can be the case with any team.
Big difference between winning an NBA title playing small and winning an NCAA title with 5 small. - -In the NBA your talking 5 very talented top level small compared to 5 NCAA College small. - -Those 5 small in the NBA are in the NBA cause they proved and are talented enough to be able to compete and compete very well - - that's why they are in the NBA. - -5 small in the NCAA is not that case, Not all 5 are talented enough to make the NBA, true they might very well be good - - just not NBA good enough to make the NBA. - we gonna be ok. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Baylor's front court is w/e. West Virginia will be an issue. Wouldn't be surprised if KU splits with both this year.
Lolz
This isn’t KU’s best team under self but the NCAA tourney is a crap shoot. There are plenty of teams every year that have talent and if they get lucky could win it. KU has had top 5 teams go out early and we’ve had 2012 team, 2 seed make a run at the title. This team has less odds then last year but it’s all about who you play. Let’s say we end the year ranked 9th and we struggle against good front courts. We get hot in the tourney and never play a team with a good front court we could win. Silly to write this team off after two games and a more experienced Gonzaga team beating us. We have so much youth on this team from guys that will impact the team (Harris, braun, wilson, tristian, Thompson).
Don't sleep on Virginia Tech. One of these years they're going to do some damage.
@approxinfinity Cartier?
@Crimsonorblue22 Cartier should be a good piece but he wasn't that big a factor yesterday. Came off bench 24 minutes 1-8 shooting.
@approxinfinity said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
@Crimsonorblue22 Cartier should be a good piece but he wasn't that big a factor yesterday. Came off bench 24 minutes 1-8 shooting.
He looked like garbage for V-Tech. Ball sticks in his hand and above everything else his attitude is piss poor. Him and Weber definitely didn't see eye to eye
@BeddieKU23 I love shit posting Bruce but letting Cartier go was a good move. Team cancer.
Bump - Bill Self is the GOAT
Forgive me father for I have sinned.
Lol, he's thinking about it!
Hear me out...
Kansas HC Nate Oats
I am not advocating for Self to be fired, just having fun.
@BShark said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
Hear me out...
Kansas HC Nate Oats
I am not advocating for Self to be fired, just having fun.
He’s on my very short list if Bill dies in a plane crash on vacation or some other awful thing
Ewww
7-5 ass Villanova multiple 20 point losses
@BShark said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
7-5 ass Villanova multiple 20 point losses
So overrated and was still in the top 10
Nate Oats might screw around and lose to Missouri again.
@BShark said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
Nate Oats might screw around and lose to Missouri again.
Oh Lordy
Virginia is 12-8. Louisville is 11-9. These are programs that have been in the FF pretty recently. Self has his faults but is REMARKABLE in that he never seems to end up with down years like that.
Will Wade might be a bit of a dummy. Obviously he can recruit but my would be interested in Will Wade if Self retired talk is looking a bit rough.
My king Will Wade has fallen, fired by LSU.
@BShark said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
My king Will Wade has fallen, fired by LSU.
So many teams should hire him it’s not even funny. Maryland, KSU, Mizzou
What he did and got caught doing is legal now. Guy is going to thrive with the new rules
KU should absolutely back and keep Self. Idgaf that he participated in something every single good basketball team does. It’s dumb that LSU cares. He will land on his feet
@BeddieKU23 they had to know they were coming though right? Seems funny to have not fired him sooner if that was the reason
Maybe he spends a year in the studio rehabbing his image?
Rick Pitino gets a P5 job this off-season too yea?
@Kcmatt7 said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
Maybe he spends a year in the studio rehabbing his image?
Rick Pitino gets a P5 job this off-season too yea?
Pitino just signed what amounts to a lifetime deal at Iona and will be 70 when next season begins. He also already turned down the Maryland job which is probably going to be one of the 2 or 3 best jobs open this season so I don't he's headed back to a P5 job.
Idea: Townsend rides into the sunset, we rehab Wade.
@FarmerJayhawk said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
Idea: Townsend rides into the sunset, we rehab Wade.
This is a strong ass idea
I think y'all need to look a little harder at that NOA...
@FarmerJayhawk said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
Idea: Townsend rides into the sunset, we rehab Wade.
How about Dooley? I think Wade is radioactive at the moment...
( Plus, I cannot stand Wade's facial expressions during games. He truly looks like he bit into a
strong assed shit sandwich.)
@mayjay said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
I think y'all need to look a little harder at that NOA...
Yeah its badd
@Jethro said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
@FarmerJayhawk said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
Idea: Townsend rides into the sunset, we rehab Wade.
How about Dooley? I think Wade is radioactive at the moment...
( Plus, I cannot stand Wade's facial expressions during games. He truly looks like he bit into a
strong assed shit sandwich.)
Dooley can replace Townsend when he goes to take his nap.
So no one would ever confuse Tom Crean with a proper basketball coach but going 16-16 (5-13 in league play) with a roster that had Anthony Edwards, Sahvir Wheeler and Rayshaun Hammonds is IMPRESSIVE in its own special way.
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He knows Bill about to go on a tear.
In all honestly, he was a likable guy. Basketball is worse without him.
@Kcmatt7 said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
He knows Bill about to go on a tear.
In all honestly, he was a likable guy. Basketball is worse without him.
Bill is the best coach in CBB now. It really can't even be argued.
If we didn't have Self I would have wanted Jay Wright.
This announcement has twitter absolutely roasting Coach K rn too which is an added bonus
Wow I can't believe it. Jay was my pick to replace Self if we ever had the opening. Mad respect for him
Hmmm whats up Cam, Brendan, Mark?
I bet $1 that Jay will either be at Duke or Kentucky in 2 years. Part of the plan
@rockchalkwyo Nope. Legit retirement. Going into broadcasting and enjoying time with his family.
All I can say is WOW. - - Didn't see that coming
Bill Self is currently the only active D1 men's basketball head coach with multiple national championships, at least according to official NCAA records since nobody officially won the 2013 title.
Jay's retirement is a huge loss to college basketball.
Imagine if Wright had beaten us in the Final 4 again and then retired. I'd loath him forever but since we handed him his last L the world is good! Enjoy retirement Jay.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
Bill Self is currently the only active D1 men's basketball head coach with multiple national championships, at least according to official NCAA records since nobody officially won the 2013 title.
No it was mentioned yesterday, I think it was off an ESPN article it's now Him & Rick Pitino as the only one's
Nova already hired Wright's replacement so sounds like this was in the works.. There may not be attrition since the new coach was his former assistant
@BeddieKU23 said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
Nova already hired Wright's replacement so sounds like this was in the works.. There may not be attrition since the new coach was his former assistant
Yeah this was planned. Probably sent him off for HC experience as part of the plan.
Jeremy Case is on an extremely similar path, just in the earlier stages of it. Kyle started as a video coordinator for Jay, lol.
@jayballer67 said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
Bill Self is currently the only active D1 men's basketball head coach with multiple national championships, at least according to official NCAA records since nobody officially won the 2013 title.
No it was mentioned yesterday, I think it was off an ESPN article it's now Him & Rick Pitino as the only one's
Read the section after the comma.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
@jayballer67 said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
Bill Self is currently the only active D1 men's basketball head coach with multiple national championships, at least according to official NCAA records since nobody officially won the 2013 title.
No it was mentioned yesterday, I think it was off an ESPN article it's now Him & Rick Pitino as the only one's
Read the section after the comma.
Thanks - - - I did
Jerome Tang 2 KU :folded_hands:
@BShark said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
Jerome Tang 2 KU :folded_hands:
Let's check back in 5 years on this guy. Impressive to make K-St relevant for a year with the roster overhaul he's had but the next thing will be seeing how he recruits, how he develops guys that didn't already spend most of their career developing somewhere else. Johnson & Nowell were already finished products when he got here & represent the 1% of College Players at their positions. Very interested to see how effective his offense is when he doesn't have 2 All Conference guys.
@BeddieKU23 I actually think he is incredibly cheesy and phony. Miss me with the spiritual stuff.
I like him as a person. I keep thinking how he toiled away for 20 years, and nobody gave him the time of day. Then I look at Baylor and they look not as elite as in years past, and then I look at the Puddy Tats and think they kinda look semi-elite, and say "What changed"? The Brains of Baylor left, and went to Silo Tech. And dude went and got Keyonte. And turned up Nowell. New Coach Thad Matta is laying a turd on Butler and this dude has Silo Tech in the Top 10. Drew can't come in out of the rain compared to Tang, imo. Yeah, the dancing BS is BS, cheesy milking the crowd type crap is annoying, but he'll get better at that too once he's been around awhile. I believe it's in our interest that they don't suck. Not sucking means more eyeballs on our games, even on streaming games. We're a national brand - we need competitive games.
@nuleafjhawk said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
@BShark Spiritual stuff is a real thing for a lot of people. Including me. I haven't watched him enough to know if he's cheesy and phony.
It's clearly a big part of who he is, which is (I think) unfortunately rare today. I have zero problem with him expressing himself in that way. I also have zero problem with people poking fun at it on occasion.
@FarmerJayhawk said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
@nuleafjhawk said in EMPEROR OF BASKETBALL:
@BShark Spiritual stuff is a real thing for a lot of people. Including me. I haven't watched him enough to know if he's cheesy and phony.
It's clearly a big part of who he is, which is (I think) unfortunately rare today. I have zero problem with him expressing himself in that way. I also have zero problem with people poking fun at it on occasion.
Yeah I definitely think he should be able to express himself how he wants. It's just a bit over the top for me personally. I know Baylor while he was there leaned into religion for recruiting and negative recruiting especially against KU. Don't know how much of that was Tang of course.
Interesting I haven't paid attention to his interviews at all. Guess he hasn't gotten to Bruce level yet which is a plus.
As far as coaching he seems like he knows what he's doing. I expected them to be bottom 5 in all of power 5 but this collection of rug rats has 2 stars that are better then most they play so that carries them. I'm very interested to see how he coaches when he doesn't have that to lean on. Just about every coach that pops up with that 1 great year regresses the following.
He might have a new gig next year so we won't know for sure for a while if he's just lucky or one to take notice of
Reminds me of when Beasley came in as a protege of Frank Martin. Well above average coach pulled off a puddy tat recruiting coup and rode that for a few seasons. Only so far you can go in the little apple tho.
KSU was expected to be cellar dwellers this year in the Big 12. Tang is in discussion for D1 Coach of the Year, and so far, I'd give him a vote.
I've said this before... KSU either stops with the "F-KU" garbage or he is gone. He was definitely a huge part of the success at Baylor, and let's not forget that Baylor is a private Baptist university. I know Baylor sells the spiritual side of their program to recruits... who often have religious parents. Kansas sells "family environment" and it makes a huge difference in our recruiting. I believe Tang will only IMPROVE on his recruiting as he settles in. He won't be able to land big recruits who are faith-based if the crowd is chanting the "F-word!" I know it, as fact, that KSU administration is on a mission to stop it!
What I'm not sure about... KSU is a state-funded university, and I'm not sure how "Christian" Tang can be.
The shifting of schools and conferences has made schools like KU and KSU work on their resumes.
Last night Missourah was beating the crap out of LSU, they played Mr Brightside, so they had to pay homage to their daddies by unleashing their "F KU" chant. In a game against LSU they were winning. We own them.