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@BShark said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

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We not good if its not

Since our games against West Virginia tend to be somewhat contentious, I made a few tables that show the free-throw differentials and W/L records for both teams at home. West Virginia is actually 4th in free-throws per game this season and has one of the highest free-throw differentials in the country at home. Overall, Kansas has a better mean differential, but I would argue at least some if not all or more of that is attributable to having a better home record and getting fouled/shooting more free-throws at the end of games. I haven't looked into it much, however.

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This game worries me a wee bit. - - - just leary of this one. West Virginia fans thumping they're chests about the game being a sellout. -Got to figure this is their game of the year at home, probably everyone pulling down the moonshine Bottles bringing them to the arena taking snorts at the TV timeouts - -taking snorts every time a foul is called taking TWO snorts when they MAKE a free throw and the down right chugging the dam thing during half time during the pig calling contest and half the females come runnin down out of the stands.

If your going strictly off stats KU wins we top them in pretty much every thing : - - -FG % - - -FT % - 3 pt % - - - Less Turnovers per - -which when you add it up probably means we get our ass takin to the tool shed.

They have went back pretty much to being press Virginia, Dotson just has to secure the ball, we can't be making these dam alley too - -the - -ooop passes that misses Doke but just a smidge - -like the one when OChai went to make one and it turned into making a basket like a shot.- -for once would be nice to make a few more three's - -better % -we shall see - let's hope my feeling is wrong. - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark u have to start it

I can fix it??

Starting 4 smalls. Interesting.

Who's the 4th, Braun?

Jalen Wilson officially done for the season.

@FarmerJayhawk said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Starting 4 smalls. Interesting.

HMMMM, would think that it would only be beneficial IF we can do a little better shooting the 3.

WV gonna have a mis match some where when they on offense. However WV is really ugly on the offensive end. - only shoot 43.2 % from TWO - - 30.3 % fro the THREE - -and only shoot 64.3 ft % - -thing is they just throw it up on the board and go get it

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Who's the 4th, Braun?

Yes

This year above others I would love to get a win here

Less go

Welp, that offensive possession was not great.

Meh. Typical

Nor was the defensive possession for KU...

Braun ready for this?

Have to make that

looks like Garrett can beat his guy at will

Nice doke

Braun against Culver is a bad matchup

WOW!

Bill looking hobo chic

I'll allow that shot from Oscar all game.

@BShark said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

I'll allow that shot from Oscar all game.

Yup invitation accepted

@FarmerJayhawk said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Bill looking hobo chic

When in Rome...or West Virginia, dress down...

Lol 3 seconds with the ball dribbling

Good lord

Don't want to stand out in West Virginia in nice clothes. trust me

Sure

Dotson jets

10 frames per second can't keep up with Dotson

Yeah this is gonna be a scrapper

Notice the wrap on dokes wrists not good

Cool. Survived the first punch

@BShark said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Yeah this is gonna be a scrapper

Were you expecting a finesse game?

@DanR said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

10 frames per second can't keep up with Dotson

Especially when ESPN cuts away to crowd shots...with their unbalanced sound mix to boot.

Digging the local commercials

It's always refreshing to get redneck commercials

When in Morgantown.....you buy furniture

No 3 sec calls againt the home team, ever.

Welcome to the big 12 where they couldn't even get real players

@BeddieKU23 said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

When in Morgantown.....you buy furniture

Then burn it

kaboom

Marcus, stud

Agbaji damn

looked like a travel on Ochai. TOO BAD

Did they forget the whistle

So ugly when 8 guys are crammed in the paint

@DanR said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

So ugly when 8 guys are crammed in the paint

That's their offense

I missed Dok's foul. Stupid ESPN- keeps freezing on my screen. Assholes.

Foul ref

Dotson was fouled

@stoptheflop And for that you get to pay extra!

I wish we'd hit about 8 threes in a row

Danger time

I can't remember Dotson making a 3 this year.

Let's double team and leave oscar open all night. Great gameplan

@wissox said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

I can't remember Dotson making a 3 this year.

Surprisingly he has 28

Sure on that home roll

@wissox said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

I can't remember Dotson making a 3 this year.

28%. Hasn’t made a lot

@BeddieKU23 I know, it just seems like he always misses.

nice d

You could hear the slap on tv

Nice Ochai

Stone hands dave

He gets stripped almost every time

Big Dave creating some Chaos

That hit the rim

Nice block

you can't tell from that angle LOL

Dang, pick up some loose balls please

Even if it did touch rim, what now - alternating possession

@DanR said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

you can't tell from that angle LOL

But heard the duoing!

Heard the missed and 1 on ochais layup too

Don't have stupid ESPN+ so have to rely on you all and Gamecast to follow. I thought WVU couldn't score? Note that they have as many ORBs as we have total RBs - think it was the same at AFH...

@DCHawker said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Don't have stupid ESPN+ so have to rely on you all and Gamecast to follow. I thought WVU couldn't score? Note that they have as many ORBs and we have total RBs - think it was the same at AFH...

We decided that doubling the post and leaving tshiebwe open at the rim is good d

I'm Ok with that angle showing it hit the rim

@BeddieKU23 said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Did they forget the whistle

This is shocking but they missed a couple really blatant WVU fouls.

refs have been bad all around

@BShark said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

@BeddieKU23 said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Did they forget the whistle

This is shocking but they missed a couple really blatant WVU fouls.

Expected here theres no rule book

@Bwag said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Even if it did touch rim, what now - alternating possession

guess not...

Rebounds

Those type of shots just kill

Enaruna can find the bench again

And hang on to the ball..

@BShark said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Enaruna can find the bench again

Yupp

Fran excited

Turning it over and giving up offense rebounds is a good way to get ran out of the gym

@Woodrow said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Turning it over and giving up offense rebounds is a good way to get ran out of the gym

Story of every game here

We suck at rebounding. Doke has always been poor for his size.

@BShark said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

We suck at rebounding. Doke has always been poor for his size.

He wasnt in the game was he?

@BeddieKU23 No, but he's our best rebounder which also says a lot

Marcus having a forgot me game

Good grief Garrett. You know where you're playing?

This one getting away

So, we're supposed to be the #1 D in the country and WVU is supposed to be offensively challenged, but they're on an 85 point pace...

7 points already off of offensive rebounds. Dot has to make a wide open 3 at some point, that is the reason he won’t make it in the NBA.

Isaiah Moss

Better

Dotson has zero confidence

Finally

need Moss to have a game

We're fine. Just need to stop turning the ball over

or that

JFC Doke

Dumbest foul

Nothing more predictable

That’s in Dotson. Why drive 1 on 4.

Dumb creates dumb. Dot driving into 3 guys is not ideal

Dumb on Dotston for forcing that

@DanR said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

We're fine. Just need to stop turning the ball over

Rebound and don't turn it over. Seems simple...

Oh well

Damn it Dotson...

WVU 1 foul. Of course they've committed more than that.

Big Dave has never once passed out of the post

They are so rattled

@wissox said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

WVU 1 foul. Of course they've committed more than that.

They are just squeaky clean okay??!

WVU has 8 more shot attempts...

@BShark said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Big Dave has never once passed out of the post

Kobe

We’re still right there and have played like ass. We good

@DCHawker said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

WVU has 8 more shot attempts...

Probably that many more rebounds

That last foul on Doke was crap, after Garrett got tackled on the other end

This is going to be one of those games where you wonder what Dotson is doing... then all of the sudden he takes over.

I hope

6 offensive rebounds for WVU and 7 turnovers. Gotta do better than that.

@kjayhawks said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

That last foul on Doke was crap, after Garrett got tackled on the other end

Shocks u 2 see it in Morgantown.

@DanR said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

This is going to be one of those games where you wonder what Dotson is doing... then all of the sudden he takes over.

I hope

That scenario played out recently. With Doke a non factor he will have to do something other then turn the ball over

Why are the WVU fans booing Dotson anyway? Is there some bad blood that I don't remember?

It's in their program

@DanR said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Why are the WVU fans booing Dotson anyway? Is there some bad blood that I don't remember?

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LOOOOL blatant no call

Omg foul

@BShark said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

LOOOOL blatant no call

So sad

As my feed cuts out and I miss some game time, I need to know how to email Jeff Long. Anyone know?

WVU plays so ugly, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Anyone wan’t to grab a damn rebound

So there offense is miss a shot long and get open shots cool

Dotson with the 5th brick

big dave

DAVEY BUCKETS

Shooters shoot

Dave is definitely not giving the ball back once he gets it

Not getting that call tonight Devon

Dotson might as well sitdown

@BeddieKU23 said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Dotson might as well sitdown

If only we had some depth

Be careful Doke...

Doke has been zero feet from the rim 4 times now and has decided he doesnt know how to dunk. YOUR SOFT

They have almost as many offensive rebounds as we do rebounds. This is a problem.

Doke bring the ball is the difference behind and the WV guys name I ain’t spelling. We learned in middle school and Roy Williams taught our bigs to do but Self does not and cost us point literally even darn game.

Yeah if Doke would just go up to dunk instead of overthinking it we would probably be ahead.

If that wasn’t a cylinder call idk what is

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

They have almost as many offensive rebounds as we do rebounds. This is a problem.

Like last game

2 bigs. This is gonna be ugly

@FarmerJayhawk said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

2 bigs. This is gonna be ugly

Bill wyd

Gotta get some boards

That 3 seconds call on Doke was weak, even on replay.

I’d get a T, why they murder 3 guys going for a rebound, we look at someone and it’s a foul.

wtf

Post the F up, Doke and hold your position

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Getting stops but can’t score

Where was the foul?

@FarmerJayhawk there wasnt one

Guess I thought bodying guys was ok based on the rest of the game

The refs all of a sudden know they didn't call enough fouls

Only in Morgantown does an opposing team foul more then these hack shits

Fire this game into the sun

Dave jeez

Turnover after turnover

Just cancel it

Another no show from Braun

Bill noooo

@Woodrow He's a freshman.

Good job, Tristan, following that

Have to. Absolutely can’t have Doke picking up #3

@Woodrow said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Another no show from Braun

What about the other 7?

So far small and zone has been good

Brick city Tristan. Learn to shoot

@BeddieKU23 said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

@Woodrow said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Another no show from Braun

What about the other 7?

Nobody has played well but he hasn’t done anything for 2-3 weeks

WVU have an invite a bum from the streets to sit on the bench program?

trouble on the WVA bench

junk shot

And 1

Tristan's FT froze in mid flight giving me time to pray it would go in.

Zone them the rest of the game

Nice Ochai

WHY CAN WE NOT HIT OPEN THREES?????

Amazing how bad this team is at shooting threes

Let's get a steal and three before the buzzer

@wissox said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Tristan's FT froze in mid flight giving me time to pray it would go in.

Narrator: It did not.

@Woodrow said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

@BeddieKU23 said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

@Woodrow said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Another no show from Braun

What about the other 7?

Nobody has played well but he hasn’t done anything for 2-3 weeks

Hes a freshman. Dotson doke Garrett have no showed tonight

McCabe is evidence that Greg Gard can't recruit Wisconsin kids.

Get a score

or not

As shit as we were down 6 isn’t awful

Got the 5 minute scoring drought out of the way in the first half. We're in good shape.

Dot and Marc G laid a lot of bricks that half.

@BShark Dok too

I honestly can't remember any time we scored other than a garrett layup and maybe Moss hit a three

Lucky to still be in it, rebound the ball, no turnovers and a make a shot or 2, we will have a chance

@stoptheflop said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

@BShark Dok too

Doke couldn't even get a shot off sadly.

West Virginia is shooting like hell otherwise we'd be down 15.

@BShark he got two five foot hook shots which were 6" out of his range

@KirkIsMyHinrich And somehow they are shooting better than us from three. Both teams playing like ass on offense but they can rebound...

It's the same things that I've been saying that's going to cost us our chance at the Championship - Ugly 3 pt shooting - -even more Ugly free throw shooting - - - and Turnovers this kind of crap will end your season

WVU has played 11 guys in the first half. While 6 down can be overcome if! we rebound and protect the ball, are we going to get worn down? Especially with Doke with 2 fouls and Dave with 3?

If Self was smart he’d spend the rest of our practices shooting FTs, shooting 3s and defensive drills.

@BShark I believe they have 15 points off of offensive rebounds and 11 off of our turnovers. That’s the game right there friends.

Starters are 0-6 from the arc. That's not going to get it done...

Wow, we've got another game on ESPN+?

@kjayhawks said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

@BShark I believe they have 15 points off of offensive rebounds and 11 off of our turnovers. That’s the game right there friends.

Yeah both teams have 8 turnovers but KU hasn't done a great job turning WVU turnovers into points. Rebounds are the big difference.

@BShark ya KU in turn has just 2 points each off of offensive rebounds and their turnovers.

Turnovers bad. Offensive rebounds given up bad. 3-6 from the line bad. But 1-8 from 3 is probably the worst. If we are 3-8 from 3 the game is tied.

So, are we going to have anyone reach double figures???? Ochai leads right now with 5 big ones...

This is the game we could miss Silvio out there with the fouls already on Doke and David.

Shame on ESPN for putting this top 15 battle on ESPN+ so half the country don’t watch it.

@wissox senior pm

With a "Thrill Score" of 83.6, KU-WVU tonight is projected to be the second-most exciting college basketball game of the season, according to KenPom's FanMatch numbers. Too bad most of the nation will miss it. From Jesse Newell. My comment: Most of the nation hasn't missed much. Maybe the 2nd half will heat up.

I was told to edit "we good" into the game thread. Therefore, if we lose, I will burn @BShark 's house down. I don't feel like this is an overreaction.

And 1

Good start.

Dotson hurt again

Looks like he’s favoring that hip again

sigh

So much for the quick start...

Tshiebwe fouled.

That was as much over the back as dokes second foul

When Fran says a WVU player got away with one against KU you know it's bad

Why bother calling fouls on them? Otherwise we'd be winning by a handful.

4-point game. Still in it. It could be a lot worse. Keep attacking.

@BShark I'll play Jaybates role and give you a PHOF!

Ew, Chiefs.

"Hi, I'm Bob Huggins. Has your still blown up? Try Panhandle Restoration."

Walk

Garrett sit DOWN

Ugg

That 3 is on you

I guess landon lucas didn't show Doke how to block on a guard's drive

I may have figured out why they're booing DDOt. They hand out flyers to fans and it identifies Dotson as the Bum of the Game. So really no reason to boo him.

@wissox said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

I may have figured out why they're booing DDOt. They hand out flyers to fans and it identifies Dotson as the Bum of the Game. So really no reason to boo him.

It's working

Can we at least try and get Doke involved instead of Marcus getting stuffed everytime

Doke won't score. Immature

Welp can’t get much worse. I was hoping for a better second half.

@Woodrow said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Can we at least try and get Doke involved instead of Marcus getting stuffed everytime

Why hes missed 6 shots

that is some bull

Floo

TRASH CALL

Good call. Hes out of control

@BeddieKU23 said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

@Woodrow said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Can we at least try and get Doke involved instead of Marcus getting stuffed everytime

Why hes missed 6 shots

Because he shoots 75% from the field

Good time for West Virginia to peak

We suck at offense

Ballgame

@BShark Have to make buckets at some point

13 minutes left

@Woodrow said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

@BeddieKU23 said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

@Woodrow said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Can we at least try and get Doke involved instead of Marcus getting stuffed everytime

Why hes missed 6 shots

Because he shoots 75% from the field

Only when dunking and Tswedbebshduid won’t let him get his normal position. Rough night

This is why we will lose handily in the second round. We have zero fire power, this game is over. It may as well be a 35 point deficit

I fondly remember the chiefs being down ten, with 7:12 on the clock. 3rd and 15.

KU just needs to put the ball thru the hoop. D is good enough

32 points in 27 minutes....

Go to your right, Doke.

Pts

wheels falling off the wva wagon

Fouls

Boy, that one ref must get a cut of Huggin's bonus

So gd soft whistles

Call it both ways

@Crimsonorblue22 Ochai fouled on every drive. Checking his cheek for blood after that one

@DanR the Chiefs are known for offensive fire power, we are known to brick shots with no one within 15 feet of us.

Marcus fouled on that steal too

They debate whether Doke got fouled when he gets mugged, and then he plays D like WVU has been doing all night and they call that weak crap.

Another weak ass foul on Doke

I'm not watching this Bull S - - - Calls any more - -these refs well the one forsure has made up his mind that no way are we gonna win this dam game.

@wissox he was on offense, which made it ever more ridiculous of a call

where can I get one of those ugly WVA coaches shirts?

Dot. Picks up dribble. Doke... missed Garrett cutting.

WVU fans lmao

The bill self classic double to give an open dunk

Moss wouldn't make that from 2 feet

Moss has 1 job......

Moss needs to start taking contested shots and passing up those open ones.

Dotson passes to the wrong guy

We can’t shoot

Brick layer city

Espn+ showing off their lousy camera angle again.

They are getting every loose ball

Och having back problems?

Somedays I miss Roys high flying run n gun boys.... a lot. They may not have won anymore but it sure was fun watching them try.

I love Marcus but he is terrible tonight

They aren’t even guarding Dotson anymore

Hello

Non-shooters shoot??!

More garrett shit

Crap pass

6 TOs by Marcus tonight - very uncharacteristic...

Isaiah Moss

Give Dotson some credit for believing in Moss.

He played bad last game

Moss

Bout time

Dotson has arrived

Dot!

LETS GO

Hell ya Dotson Let's go

There’s some effort!

I think that end game blow up is still in Dots head and he is trying to prove every game he’s a closer. He’s getting there.

Not quite Mario level as far as hating to lose but he’s coming along.

13 fewer shot attempts - <30% from 3 - just 60% from the FT line - and just down 3. Go figure....

amazing what a couple of made three's can do

@DCHawker that's nuts

Moss hustling wow

@DanR I think u can get some beige fitted sheets at target for a shirt like that

OK, if Doke wakes up too...

Here we come

Ahh

No one thought Ochai was going to make that, so ...

WTF kind of break is that!

OMG

how about 3 seconds

Jeez Dot. Pull that out

Two great chances to take the lead and can’t

Dok!

FEED THE BEAST

Garret is Dbeast

we need to just practice fast breaks for three solid days

The defense being played by both of these teams is outstanding.

@FarmerJayhawk said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Jeez Dot. Pull that out

ifyouknowhatimean

It's over

How?

Hey

@BShark said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

@FarmerJayhawk said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Jeez Dot. Pull that out

ifyouknowhatimean

😏😏😏

As in how are we ahead?

@Crimsonorblue22 Gotta be a king size sheet

1-and-1 I think.

Damn, very friendly roll

These rims are WVU fans tonight, I swear.

Making fun of the guys who said we were going to lose

HELL YES, MOSSIE

Moss

MOSS

ISAIAH MOSS

Microwave works

Let him shoot our throws

Let's go!

@FarmerJayhawk said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Microwave works

Microwave set to supernova.

Moss has to shoot fast. He thinks about it and it's a clanker

Moss grows on a rolling stone

Oscar with 4 fouls you love to see it.

Time to put this one on ice

@BShark said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Oscar with 4 fouls you love to see it.

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Hold

Garrett's defense has fueled this run

Marcus got fouled come on.

Is that a urine stain on the center of the floor?

Good lord ref. Garrett held like a hostage

I can't breathe.

PHEW

Get a suitcase next time dude you run out of the scrum under the basket

MVP Dbeast Garrett

@Bwag said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Is that a urine stain on the center of the floor?

Yes, in the shape of West Uriney

Mercy

@BShark said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

I can't breathe.

I would advise you to breath, skeletor.

Dotson going for the dagger. Not a great shot, but I like the confidence to take it.

@Woodrow ewwwww

Does Huggy poke a Doke here ??

yes my reverse psychology worked again!! Let’s finish it

Marcus 5-steals Garrett doing his thing.

Foul moss

I don't know if I can handle two dog movies in one year... Togo, now my buddy Buck in Call of the Wild

@DanR said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

I don't know if I can handle two dog movies in one year... Togo, now my buddy Buck in Call of the Wild

All dog movies suck.

I'm so far behind you guys because my feed is glitchy. I never know which plays you're talking about.

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

@DanR said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

I don't know if I can handle two dog movies in one year... Togo, now my buddy Buck in Call of the Wild

All dog movies suck.

Old Yeller ruin your childhood? 😝

@dylans said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

@KirkIsMyHinrich said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

@DanR said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

I don't know if I can handle two dog movies in one year... Togo, now my buddy Buck in Call of the Wild

All dog movies suck.

Old Yeller ruin your childhood? 😝

Yep.

Garrett has 6 TOs - but also leads in RBs, assists and steals, has 9 points, and may be the best defensive player in the country...

Moss heat check, I'm okay with it.

big board, Doke

I wonder how many hillbillies it takes to make a pee stain that big?

Good d Doke

DOKE STEAL!!!!

@dylans said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

I wonder how many hillbillies it takes to make a pee stain that big?

Just one. Little known fact.

Come on, Dotson

Meltdown in Morgantown

He's good at the end

Keep the defensive pressure

Impervious to pressure other than Nova, ya.

3 possessions. Huge

One more here

make freebies

Fran said the other night that Baylor had the best defense in the countries. Flip-flopper.

LIttle louder there coach

Look I'm not complaining but why did WVU wait 15 seconds if they are just gonna foul?

Doke seems to have decided that WVA isn't going to score any more

Doke

Doke has taken over on the D end in the last 3 mkmutes

Now fran is gooing over ku

Dok is long and active. Ya’ll are f@$$ed

Doke destroyed that guy

Gawd I love Doke

Not sure what gooing means

Close this, guys

@Crimsonorblue22 said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Not sure what gooing means

gushing

@Crimsonorblue22 said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Not sure what gooing means

Ewww

Garrett with his 9th foul

pffft

Goo goes w/fran

Wut

Marcus was set

Nice bail out call from the ref

Really surprised they haven't tried fouling Doke

Guy runs into marcus. Foul on Marcus

@wissox said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Really surprised they haven't tried fouling Doke

I agree

Ball don't lie

Shebway don't know which way now

You asked for it

OK, Doke. Bury them.

Come on Doke you can do it.

Take Doke out

No way. Doke has single handedely shut them down the last three minutes

Meatloaf: 2 out of 3 aint bad

if only

Dok!

Take away 10

OH MY!

Doke playing volleyball

More gooing

Put them in, DOt.

Wow

Yes way. It's a free-throw shooting contest now. Get Doke out.

This defense is next level

@FarmerJayhawk said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Doke playing volleyball

No no no

Finger wave, fran likes it

Moss!

Doke just ended the state of West Virginia

WE GOT THIS

Boobirds gone

They stopped booing DDot

Unreal

Game balls to Doke and Moss

Chiiiefs

Hell of a win. This team has some serious moxy

Aint over till it's over

Big fat Ben gone?

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Might not have great offense, but the D can step it up to a crazy level

Nothing like handing WVU their first home-loss of the season. Rock friggin Chalk

Doke showed them what's up!

Bob is like - dammit Bill, you cost me $25k. You're buying at the bar next time, what time does the plane leave tonight?

Maybe hit a few hillbilly's in the stands

Just like Jack Black & Kyle Gass...TENACIOUS D

Crazy win, that was some serious backbone

Closed it 13-1. Hell yeah

Big 12 basketball is the exact opposite of Big 12 football lol

Congrats grandpa Bill

WVU had 20 points in the first 9-1/2 minutes - just 29 in the next 30+. Defense really clamped down....

That's a 19 point half for WVU.

Take me home...

How many points did WVA score since the 13 minute mark? Two?

So I said before the game that if we're under 14 turnovers we'll win.

13 turnovers on the game. AND 13 steals. Our defense is nuts.

@KirkIsMyHinrich 🏆

@wissox we won! You didn't give up!

Weird box score -- we get dominated on the boards, 15 fewer shot attempts, shoot less than 50% from the field and less than 30% from 3 (just 4 made), our typical 66% from FT -- and win by 9 on the road against a top 20 team that hadn't lost at home yet this year......

Back to back road games holding opponents under 50. That's an elite defense and did I hear Fran actually say KU was the best defense in the country as well tonight?

@FarmerJayhawk Basically when you said this game was over at the 13 minute mark everyone thought you were calling it for WVU. But I knew you had the utmost confidence that the team just needed a little adversity to wake them up.

Very nice last 5 or so minutes. Did we not learn anything from the chiefs?

@Crimsonorblue22 I don't know if you remember my old mantra, but I don't get nervous until the last minute of the game.

@wissox I'm always nervous, but I never give up! Seen the best come backs!

Guys when is the last time we have seen a defense like this? - - I'm telling you this defense can take us a long ways, can't believe I am saying that - - but DAM - -this defense is just Elite. - -Marcus Garett on the defensive end is just insane. - - mercy I love this defense. - -and it is just like at time is BAM and here comes the run - -holy crap - - just shut down

So on the dble team, is our center field guy not dropping down? I'd like to see those again.

Numbers-wise, this is the best defense Kansas has had per Ken Pom. I think our 2008 team had better defense, but this is right up there.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Back to back road games holding opponents under 50. That's an elite defense and did I hear Fran actually say KU was the best defense in the country as well tonight?

I didn't realize that. -that's pretty dam good holding them under 50 on their home floor. - -Like you said -- that's ELITE

@jayballer73 I thought u quit watching?

@Crimsonorblue22 said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

@jayballer73 I thought u quit watching?

Na just turned it down - -got tired of listening to Fran and seeing the BS calls against KU

@wissox said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

@FarmerJayhawk Basically when you said this game was over at the 13 minute mark everyone thought you were calling it for WVU. But I knew you had the utmost confidence that the team just needed a little adversity to wake them up.

Exactly!!

@FarmerJayhawk @wissox i do the same thing, when I say it’s over we usually step it up lol

@DanR said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

How many points did WVA score since the 13 minute mark? Two?

Eight. Holy shit.

@kjayhawks yeah right

@BShark none in the last 4+ minutes. Doke shut them down😀

Wild that it might take Only one or two losses to win the big 12. Usually 3 or 4 will get a share of the title

Of course, still a lot of games left

Doke was protecting the bucket

@Crimsonorblue22 hey it usually works for us, don’t hate. Appreciate!

8 points for WVU the last 13:31. Bananas.

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Sheesh.

@BShark oh my!

@BShark said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

That's a 19 point half for WVU.

Think about it bud. - -Like someone here said , we just had 2 road games where we held both under 50 on their home floor - - that's some nasty defense man

@BShark Seriously? 8 points? I guess you're right. I think it was 41-30. So a 28-8 run to close it out.

Marcus Garrett is shooting better from 3 than Dotson.

@BShark said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

@FarmerJayhawk Germans

Bears repeating

I kinda laugh at the first half stats for Tshiebwe in both games. Doke was out for long stretches in both first halfs. David hopefully can watch this film and see how badly he was outta position defensively.

Anybody listening to post game? Self talking about marcus's D. Shouted out 2 National writers Dana and somebody else. Dana bitched about Silvio and KU! Wrote nasty column. Side note there by me. Anyway Self was talking how great his D was.

@Crimsonorblue22 link to article?

Damn dotson with another injury.

I'll never doubt Marcus again. His defense became a difference maker on so many possessions in that run. Guy rallied the troops big time

@BeddieKU23 Hip again?

@KirkIsMyHinrich knee

@kjayhawks Dana's article? Nope, awhile back. Probably easy to find

@Crimsonorblue22 How bad?

@BShark just posted above a twitter post that he tweaked it, hadn't practiced since sat.

I guess it's good that our next 2 games are at home against Oklahoma and Iowa St.

@KirkIsMyHinrich ou is decent

They are. We beat them in Norman by 14. We should be able to beat them in Lawrence even without Dotson.

Mitch Lightfoot’s Snapchat is Country roads playing, yelling this place sucks let’s get outta while boarding the plane lol.

As always here's the PER's after a tough road win.

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Great win. In Morgantown. Despite the refs letting the WV bigs camp in the lane all night. I'm still trying to adjust my in-game impression to our defense first, offense maybe style of play. Winning with 58 points is strange and quite different to the KU basketball I've known all these years. Since Braun isn't looking to shoot (one shot in 16 min last night) and Moss is currently our only threat from 3, I say start Moss and give him 30 minutes a game. But, that's because I'm still under the belief (clearly misguided) that it takes good offense to win games. How few points can this KU team score and still win?

Isaiah Moss

@stoptheflop said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Great win. In Morgantown. Despite the refs letting the WV bigs camp in the lane all night. I'm still trying to adjust my in-game impression to our defense first, offense maybe style of play. Winning with 58 points is strange and quite different to the KU basketball I've known all these years. Since Braun isn't looking to shoot (one shot in 16 min last night) and Moss is currently our only threat from 3, I say start Moss and give him 30 minutes a game. But, that's because I'm still under the belief (clearly misguided) that it takes good offense to win games. How few points can this KU team score and still win?

Whatever the formula is to get Moss to shoot like that is A-OK with me. He seemed comfortable off the bench last night.

@BShark said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Isaiah Moss

Has he been watching Malik Newman tape?

@BeddieKU23 @BShark thats what I was wondering, can Moss become the next Newman and get hot when it matters. I think people forget how great Newman was in our run in 2018.

I'd keep going with Moss off the bench. He's not near as good as Newman. Newman could get to the rack. But Moss is the near perfect shooter off the bench. A guy that can change the look of the game when he's even semi-on. I don't see Braun like that. Moss is a shooter. Braun is a more complete player. It seems that Braun starting is the better path, and I'd really like to see Braun shoot more -- the guy is shooting almost 50% from three in conference play (he lit it up in three games but has barely shot in the other Big 12 games). The last two games he hasn't shot one three pointer. Makes zero sense for a team that struggles to score.

Can you imagine this team with reliable and consistent three point shooting?

Braun was a near zero last night. He executed a play Bill drew up and did nothing outside of that. I think he knows he is just a cog but that lack of production is concerning and why he ended up only playing 16 minutes.

@BShark he needs to be more aggressive on the offensive end, he did get a couple of tough rebounds last night on a night where just about every rebound was fought for. He just needs find his role, he’ll have at least one more big scoring games I bet. I’d rather him be like last night and not force a bunch of shots or turn it over.

I thought Braun did a pretty good job last night. He played defense, didn't turn the ball over, and grabbed a few rebounds. He didn't force anything, which is something I actually like a lot. He's like the opposite of Quentin Grimes.

And by the way, no one other than Dotson and Garrett was getting many shots up last night. I mean, Doke only had 6 shot attempts. We only had 45 field goal attempts as a team. West Virginia's defense just makes it hard for people who aren't primary ball-handlers to get shots.

And he's a freshman. Not highly rated. Working to fit in. Not the first, second, or third option. Or even fourth. Probably hesitant to draw the coach's ire if he oversteps, even if the coach encourages. Confidence and time will overcome role preservation at some point. Last night, that environment, understandable that a freshman might be a touch hesitant. We do need him to be assertive with his shot because he offers what we really need. Not forcing as @kjayhawks mentioned, but just seizing opportunity when presented. Excellent role player to have.

I’ve seen freshman do far worse in Morgantown. Hell I’ve seen seniors do worse there! Braun may not be a star, but he’s a very nice piece for the team to have.

I like Braun but him starting as a freshman is concerning. Part of it, the turnover from last year is purging out bad fits some of which were taken in desperation. I cautioned on KJ and Chuck from the start, Grimes I thought was more athletic.

Tyon and Bryce both look like great fits to me. Tyon had 13 rebounds last night in 25 minutes. JUCO is a bit of a crap shoot but he screams Bill Self player. Athletic, works hard, can't shoot. Bryce I think is athletic enough. Everything else is there and he can score like crazy.

The other two commits...no comment.

Interested to see how recruiting is going forward. Self is at his best when he retains players. Would love to get Tamar Bates and Zach Clemence in 2021. Next year we will get to see a senior and a junior high heavy minute guys starting again. Only one freshman will play, that's exciting to me.

It seems to me his decline started when he was inserted into the starting lineup. Maybe he just isn’t comfortable in that role, but it has to be him or Moss starting .

Hopefully he can turn it back around and regain some of the confidence because we need his outside shot .

I'm all for what brings out the best in a player. Some players are better off the bench, but not too many. Some seem to collapse when faced with coming off the bench (I'm recalling Vick was that way). I like using the bench to start the game as a change of scenery deal to alter the dynamic a bit if a player is struggling.

@BShark Why is starting Braun concerning -- for this season, next, because of fit? Braun (in my opinion) is just an all-around better player than Moss. But I know that doesn't mean Braun should necessarily start over Moss. As @Woodrow said, it's Moss or Braun. And I kinda think that because Braun plays better defense, Self prefers him generally -- Moss seems to catch a lot of Self-flak.

Braun has a high floor as a starter, much higher than Moss. If his shot isn't falling, Moss tends to get frustrated and pick up some dumb fouls. Braun, even when not shooting, can handle, pass, and is a scrappy defender. If the shot is falling he's easily one of our best 5. Moss might as well grab some Salty Iguana and hang out on the end of the bench if he's cold from the outside.

I meant in general for KU not within the context of this team. On a classic KU team he would be a nice bench piece until probably his jr year. I do like his game though, he gets it.

Lol, times I just have to laugh at Social Media. I mean I was listening to the post game interviews with Marcus & Isaiah , and I swear to GOD when one of these reporters ask questions - - - doesn't matter which reporter , they have all done it at one time or another and some of these questions that they ask make you just shake your head and think/say - ask the most idiotic question and your thinking REALLY? - -how long did it take you to think about that question lmao.

Last night was a perfect example. Reporter asks Marcus , Marcus the 3 that Isaiah made how huge did you think that 3 was ? - - Are you Serious ? - - I mean REALLY ? exactly what does this reporter expect Marcus to say? you expect - - -( Oh well ya I guess it was OK lol ) - Hell course it was Huge of course Marcus is going to think it was a HUGE shot. - -mercy how huge was that 3? - - and this isn't the only example of really bad questions. - -Just makes you wonder your seriously asking questions like that roflmao

@jayballer73 Gary bedore

Like question to moss, what do u think of marcus’s D? And moss should say, I wish he’d make some 3’s and hit his throws!

@Crimsonorblue22 said in In the Middle of Nowhere Game Thread:

Like question to moss, what do u think of marcus’s D? And moss should say, I wish he’d make some 3’s and hit his throws!

EXACTLY. - -you may have heard it , but he or they actually did ask Moss what he thought about Marcus D last night? - - What the hell does he want the kid to say ? - just like you said - that would be funny

Probably the best game of the year so far. This team is improving week by week. They have a high ceiling.

Will it be a glorious run in March or a Northern Iowa flame out?