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Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.
Mar 02, 2020 11:05 PM #1

Guys some may think it's over reacting , that's ok I really don't feel like I am , it is starting to worry me more and more.

You might know this would be just our luck, the year we got a really legit shot at winning it all , and man I'm telling you listening to experts/news/doctors , we are right on the verge of more travel restrictions , more and more talk about closing schools & sporting events.

Now SIX confirmed deaths here in the US from this Corona Virus, think Govt trying to blow smoke up our ass but saying they got it under control. - Hell they don't even have an anti virus yet ! ! ! . It's spreading through the states Washington St , Oregon , California , Arizona , Illinois , New York , Rhode Island - - . Wee still like 3 weeks from the NCAA tourney - -how spread is it going to be by then ? - - Soccer teams Hockey teams other sporting teams cancelling games. - we are not exempt my friends I think right now it's about 75/25 we play but if things don't get turned around those odds gonna drop fast. - -They said that they are not QUITE THERE YET , as far as telling people to stay home , have a plan set for 2 weeks worth of food / staying inside AT HOME. - - this thing is not good. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Mar 02, 2020 11:35 PM #2

@jayballer73 the tournament is the NCAA s biggest money maker. They are going to play.

Mar 03, 2020 12:22 AM #3

@benshawks08 said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

@jayballer73 the tournament is the NCAA s biggest money maker. They are going to play.

Huh kinda funny , no sooner then I threaded this , was mentioned for the 1st time on World News - - possibility of March Madness being cancelled. So ya sorry to say it can be cancelled EVEN the NCAA. - -they are talking about a lot of Major events being Canceled

Mar 03, 2020 03:59 AM #4

@jayballer73 Possible, but not likely. The death rate is less than 1.2% its overblown as a destructive factor. The psychological damage it’s done to the market is far worse than the actual COVID-19.

Do I want it? Hell no, but I don’t want pneumonia either.

Mar 03, 2020 02:21 PM #5

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28823986/fist-bumps-short-term-recommendations-nba-plots-coronavirus-strategy-memo-says ↗

Mar 03, 2020 03:04 PM #6

@dylans That is what we keep hearing (less than 2 percent), yet six out of 11 have died in Washington state (around 60%). We can all only hope that that number was just a very unlucky draw. The world dropped the ball bigtime on this one - parr for course.

Mar 03, 2020 03:51 PM #7

@Marco in an old folks home. Also they’re saying it’s been in Washington State for 6 weeks. It’s more widespread than reported. The mortality rate is likely well below 1%, it’s not a death sentence.

Mar 03, 2020 04:58 PM #8

I think the virus has been around for a lot longer than originally thought, making it a comparable death rate to traditional flu. Kind of makes me wonder... why haven't we treated traditional flu with such attention? As many as 60k annual deaths in the USA?

The threat on this virus seems to be with the elderly and sick. Maybe we should better protect the aged at care homes and places where those most vulnerable exist.

I don't think shutting our lives down is going to stop this virus. If anything... we learn how to better slow down the spread of illness by installing better standards.

I'd like to be in the commercial door business that makes doors not requiring a touch.

Mar 03, 2020 05:31 PM #9

This is the first virus breakout since we have had social media. IMO that is why there is so much hysteria and people losing their sh*t right now, when nothing suggest that people should be doing that.

I am not saying it couldn't get worse and become a major problem, but as of right now it is not ( in the US) and there is no reason fro people to go out and stock up on things like its doomsday.

Mar 03, 2020 06:40 PM #10

Look up how many people are dying from the flu in this country, then look at cancers, starvation and suicide. Tell me which are an epidemic? As @dylans said, those people in Washington died in an old folks home. Which doesn’t mean that it should be ignored but most virus are fatal to the elderly. Never trust the media my friend.

Mar 03, 2020 09:06 PM #11

@Marco said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

@dylans That is what we keep hearing (less than 2 percent), yet six out of 11 have died in Washington state (around 60%). We can all only hope that that number was just a very unlucky draw. The world dropped the ball bigtime on this one - parr for course.

Well I know this is one guy that sure the hell not taking any chances. - the projections now are that 40 -70 % of adults will be with the virus - - NOPE not me , - if I have to hermit - -dam straight I'm gonna hermit. for awhile. Thought well might be a step ahead just in case it comes to it - -went to buy face masks and wouldn't you know every where I went they are already sold out and not sure when they will get anymore. being told always back ordered. -This thing is on both Coast West and east. - -all your Major cities- - NY , Florida , California , Oregon , Washington State Arizona among others - why should I get stupid and kick and rabid dog while it's down.

Just now came across the deaths here in US went from 6 - - - to 9 today say what you want I'm not gonna take a chance and throw a 10 gallon gas on an open flame.

Mar 03, 2020 09:07 PM #12

@dylans said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

@Marco in an old folks home. Also they’re saying it’s been in Washington State for 6 weeks. It’s more widespread than reported. The mortality rate is likely well below 1%, it’s not a death sentence.

And I don't want it to become one either

Mar 03, 2020 09:09 PM #13

@kjayhawks said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

Look up how many people are dying from the flu in this country, then look at cancers, starvation and suicide. Tell me which are an epidemic? As @dylans said, those people in Washington died in an old folks home. Which doesn’t mean that it should be ignored but most virus are fatal to the elderly. Never trust the media my friend.

Screw that - - I don't trust the Govt. A lot of talk going around about this virus is all part of a population Control, which Bii gates has his hands in. At this point I wouldn't discount anything

Mar 03, 2020 09:20 PM #14

@kjayhawks several factors. Flu has .1 % mortality rate. Original estimate in China was 2% mortality. That may change in US. But raw count comparisons mean nothing.

Also. The cdc report yesterday reported several alarming things. one being that people tested positive after having already had the virus. There are questions whether some people have not been able to develop antibodies and/or can be infectious for a prolonged period of time.

Still lots we do not know. We will know a lot more once the disease becomes a confirmed pandemic.

Mar 03, 2020 09:23 PM #15

@approxinfinity said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

@kjayhawks several factors. Flu has .1 % mortality rate. Original estimate in China was 2% mortality. That may change in US. But raw count comparisons mean nothing.

Also. The cdc report yesterday reported several alarming things. one being that people tested positive after having already had the virus. There are questions whether some people have not been able to develop antibodies and/or can be infectious for a prolonged period of time.

Still lots we do not know. We will know a lot more once the disease becomes a confirmed pandemic.

Another scary thing is , like they just now said on TV. - -This Corona Virus is SERIOUS. - -Little one's , kids - -this doesn't seem to be effecting them /yet they can be carriers and not even know it and be out and around numerous others

Mar 04, 2020 02:00 AM #16

I wouldn't compare this to the ordinary Flu. China doesn't usually freak out over the Flu, and there's a huge difference between .1% and 2% when you're considering an entire population.

Anyhoo, keep in mind, once the permafrost thaws and releases whatever holy hell has been frozen in there for millions of years, none of of this will matter. Unless the asteroid hits first.

In the meantime, wash your hands a lot, and don't believe the conspiracy nonsense. Buy low. Sell high. If you're playing violin on the Titanic, try to stay in tune!

Mar 04, 2020 02:10 AM #17

It’s the end of the world as we know it. Not. Relax. Unless your a old white man with health issues, then worry. Smile.

Mar 04, 2020 02:13 AM #18

@DoubleDD said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

It’s the end of the world as we know it. Not. Relax. Unless your a old white man with health issues, then worry. Smile.

Welp old man with health issues - -heart condition , exactly what they saying , respitory and heart - -SO YA you jhit it right on the nose thanks lmao. - -yep that's why I reckon I have a right to worry. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Mar 04, 2020 02:17 AM #19

Here’s why the mortality rate is so high in China.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/qz.com/1206738/the-death-of-a-chinese-flu-patient-reminds-chinas-middle-class-their-lives-hinge-on-personal-connections/amp/ ↗

And initial reports of 2% have been reduced as more infected people have been realized. The initial outbreak area has the highest mortality rate at an estimated 1.2%, but it’s less elsewhere.

And then there’s this - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/03/03/who-says-coronavirus-death-rate-is-3point4percent-globally-higher-than-previously-thought.html ↗

It’s worse than we thought...

Conclusion- no one knows, it’s not good, but it’s not going to be the end of civilization either. Stay healthy.

Mar 04, 2020 02:25 AM #20

@jayballer73

Me too

Mar 04, 2020 03:31 PM #21

Consider the symptoms of this bug. Pretty mild and not even at the top of the list in flus. Most likely, the death rate will continue to drop and may even drop below some of the known flus.

What is a real concern is it is definitely a different kind of bug. Likely to help our immune systems after we survive the initial big push. 80% probably won't know they have it.

From what I see of it and what to be of concern is people can carry it a long time without symptoms and spread it. This is a big concern for the elderly, who face the ultimate risk.

The next big risk is toilet paper supply! Yikes! (smile)

Mar 04, 2020 03:36 PM #22

If I were cynical I’d say it was some government testing spread of and response times to a delayed biological weapon.

Mar 04, 2020 03:45 PM #23

Last weekend was a big eye opener for me at Costco. Some guy bought two and a half pallets of water. Water, rice, toilet paper... wow! Another guy probably bought 500 lbs of rice. Hope he likes rice.

Wonder how long it takes for the stock market to bounce back to where it was? Lots of cash being held by institutions, just waiting for the "all clear" sign. This hit definitely counted as a correction and I bet investors will look at this like a necessary shot of medicine anyways because corrections are a part of the investment pattern.

Let's go win a trophy in April!

Mar 04, 2020 04:15 PM #24

@drgnslayr said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

Consider the symptoms of this bug. Pretty mild and not even at the top of the list in flus. Most likely, the death rate will continue to drop and may even drop below some of the known flus.

What is a real concern is it is definitely a different kind of bug. Likely to help our immune systems after we survive the initial big push. 80% probably won't know they have it.

From what I see of it and what to be of concern is people can carry it a long time without symptoms and spread it. This is a big concern for the elderly, who face the ultimate risk.

The next big risk is toilet paper supply! Yikes! (smile)

Lmao - out of toilet paper ? - - Time for the paper towels roflmao

Mar 04, 2020 06:58 PM #25

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28833590/chicago-state-men-basketball-team-not-traveling-due-virus-women-home-games-canceled ↗

0-fer team not traveling to avoid Coronavirus or another loss? šŸ˜

Mar 04, 2020 08:26 PM #26

The plot thickens... UMKC won’t travel to Seattle either. (Kinda ok with that myself) hope things get reigned in soon. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28837362/umkc-play-seattle-fear-virus ↗

Mar 04, 2020 08:29 PM #27

I’m heading to Seattle tomorrow...

Mar 04, 2020 08:33 PM #28

@dylans said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28833590/chicago-state-men-basketball-team-not-traveling-due-virus-women-home-games-canceled ↗

0-fer team not traveling to avoid Coronavirus or another loss? šŸ˜

just got through reading this - - 1st team to cancel their games

Mar 04, 2020 08:45 PM #29

@benshawks08 Be sure to touch your face often and never wash your hands. Soap is bad. Lol. Jk stay safe buddy! It’s supposed to be harder to catch than the flu, but you’re less likely to know you’ve been exposed.

Mar 04, 2020 09:23 PM #30

I think the numbers have changed. Wanna say, 3.4 or 3.2? Globally, higher than the flu now

Mar 04, 2020 10:21 PM #31

@Crimsonorblue22 yes. Much higher mortality rate. Also harder to catch. And I wonder about the numbers - if most people don’t know they have it or it presents light symptoms you would never know it was the dreaded Coronavirus as opposed to a common cold. My supposition is that only the really sick people get diagnosed correctly. Also flu mortality numbers are way under reported globally - China doesn’t count people who died of another things brought on by the flu as a flu death.

Lies, damned lies, and statistics

Mar 04, 2020 10:44 PM #32

As someone who lives in the Seattle area, I'm surprised how quickly the needle has gone from Prudence to Panic.

FYI, nearly all of the deaths in Washington state have been elderly patients with underlying conditions, most at a single suburban nursing home located nowhere near the Seattle U. campus. The actions by Chicago State and UMKC seem way over the top.

(Interesting to note that the Roos are leaving the WAC at the end of the season anyway.)

By the way, last week I had dim sum lunch at a Chinese restaurant in downtown Seattle. According to a lot of people on the Interweb, I SHOULD BE DEAD BY NOW !

Mar 04, 2020 10:52 PM #33

@dylans said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

My supposition is that only the really sick people get diagnosed correctly.

Problem is, only symptomatic people are being tested. A number of now seriously ill people were allowed to spread because they didn't get sick enough early on to warrant testing. Some dumb restrictions on testing have allowed lots of people to get exposed.

Just a thought: Is the team more likely to get sick tonite since Seniors are at elevated risk?

Mar 04, 2020 11:07 PM #34

@mayjay 🤣 bad oneā˜ ļø

Mar 05, 2020 11:56 AM #35

@mayjay good work!

Mar 05, 2020 08:18 PM #36

@nwhawkfan Did you make a pilgrimage to the Cobain shrine?

Mar 05, 2020 08:20 PM #37

@nwhawkfan said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

As someone who lives in the Seattle area, I'm surprised how quickly the needle has gone from Prudence to Panic.

FYI, nearly all of the deaths in Washington state have been elderly patients with underlying conditions, most at a single suburban nursing home located nowhere near the Seattle U. campus. The actions by Chicago State and UMKC seem way over the top.

(Interesting to note that the Roos are leaving the WAC at the end of the season anyway.)

By the way, last week I had dim sum lunch at a Chinese restaurant in downtown Seattle. According to a lot of people on the Interweb, I SHOULD BE DEAD BY NOW !

I love Seattle, or atleast used to, haven't been there in awhile. Surely it can't be as bad as the media portrays, or can it?

Mar 05, 2020 08:55 PM #38

@Marco Have you been watching The Killing?

Mar 05, 2020 10:05 PM #39

@approxinfinity haven't seen it yet?

Mar 05, 2020 10:22 PM #40

@Marco said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

@nwhawkfan said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

As someone who lives in the Seattle area, I'm surprised how quickly the needle has gone from Prudence to Panic.

FYI, nearly all of the deaths in Washington state have been elderly patients with underlying conditions, most at a single suburban nursing home located nowhere near the Seattle U. campus. The actions by Chicago State and UMKC seem way over the top.

(Interesting to note that the Roos are leaving the WAC at the end of the season anyway.)

By the way, last week I had dim sum lunch at a Chinese restaurant in downtown Seattle. According to a lot of people on the Interweb, I SHOULD BE DEAD BY NOW !

I love Seattle, or atleast used to, haven't been there in awhile. Surely it can't be as bad as the media portrays, or can it?

Not sure about Seattle but heard today the cases doubled in California today - - in one day , this stuff spreads really fast

Mar 06, 2020 04:24 AM #41

It's getting real in Santa Clara county now. Several schools are closed and they just announced that the Sharks won't be playing home games indefinitely.

Mar 06, 2020 01:57 PM #42

@bskeet said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

It's getting real in Santa Clara county now. Several schools are closed and they just announced that the Sharks won't be playing home games indefinitely.

it's gonna get worse before it gets better. - -Hell they said that an anti virus would probably be available in a YEAR - -WTH , meanwhile back at the ranch, what ya gonna do ?

Mar 06, 2020 02:23 PM #43

The way things are going hopefully it’ll burn itself out in a few months. Less and less people are getting infected in China, but we’re on the front end here.

Mar 06, 2020 02:56 PM #44

Hard to trust what the Chinese say since they keep out foreigners in the quarantine structure.

They have setup a mass quarantine, something we are not even close to being able to do. We can't even get test kits out where they need to be.

Once we get test kits out as they should be we are in for a big shock. Most likely, there will be a huge numbers of infections. The media will spin that into a frenzy, though the reality is that the death rate will lower maybe even below Type A and B influenza.

When that happens the real question is... why don't we do something about flu A and B (the flu that is far more dangerous!)?

Are we just going to give in to fear to the point of destroying our way of life? Or will we look for sound ways to curb the spread of infection that won't kill our economy, make us all isolated zombies, and destroy everything we ever built in this country?

Mar 06, 2020 06:18 PM #45

@drgnslayr Fear mongerers in the media are enjoying this.

Mar 06, 2020 07:01 PM #46

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Mar 06, 2020 07:03 PM #47

@Woodrow who are you believing there?

Mar 06, 2020 07:06 PM #48

@Crimsonorblue22 well to be honest I have no idea what to believe when it comes to this. I will say I think 2-3% seems really high though. The major problem I see is that you can not believe anything China says so there is no telling how bad it is over there. I would almost guarantee that it is way worse over there but there is just no way to know...

Mar 06, 2020 07:26 PM #49

@Woodrow sounds like the huge problem here is, there are not enough tests. Just listened to a sick RN who was told to "take a Number". I don't believe all flu cases are reported either. I have a friend whose wife has West Nile and that was never reported in Reno co. I'm not panicked, but aware and not going on a cruise!

Mar 06, 2020 08:09 PM #50

@drgnslayr I logged back in after months just to say how surprised I am at your take on the Coronovirus.

"the reality is that the death rate will lower maybe even below Type A and B influenza." Where do you get that?!? The flu kills at a 0.1%. France now has over 600 sick and 9 deaths: that is 1.5% already, and we know of those 600 not everyone will recover.

"why don’t we do something about flu A and B?" You mean like vaccines, that we develop and ask everybody to take every autumn?!?

If anyone wants some more objective takes on what is in store for the USA, and if you don't trust China, try looking at what is happening in Europe. There is no way things will go better for you than in countries with universal health care. The people who are uninsured or underinsured and cannot afford treatment will infect more people than if they were taken care of.

Mar 06, 2020 09:08 PM #51

@ParisHawk are mostly the elderly dying there? Tell us more, please. Seems to be highly contagious.

Mar 06, 2020 11:04 PM #52

I'll stand by what I said previously. The government dropped the ball on this from the get go. If a person doesn't think that the intertwined markets were partly to blame for the world governments taking so long to do anything that person is being naive, at best.

Mar 07, 2020 08:35 AM #53

@Crimsonorblue22 Details on deaths 8 and 9 are not yet public. Ages of the first 7 dead: 81, 60, 89, 92, 73, 63, 79.

What we are being told is mortality will be higher for the elderly and / or those with diabetes or cardiovascular diseases. Men are a bit more at risk than women. Children can have the virus and be contagious without symptoms. In infected areas children are not allowed to visit the elderly in retirement homes.

Sneeze / cough into your elbows. Don't shake hands. Wash your hands thoroughly and often. Works for flu too.

Mar 07, 2020 04:38 PM #54

@ParisHawk

I have concerns over all the people who don't have health care in the US. It opens up all kinds of risks... I agree.

Maybe this virus will expose this enough here to get the politicians to figure out a solution for all those uninsured. I certainly hope so.

But if this doesn't turn out to be more deadly then common flu, I'm betting the public will see how this was handled very negatively. And I'm mostly talking about the press and the hype.

Then comes the extremely deadly virus... and no one will listen. Once you lose the trust of the public, the threat becomes a lot more real.

Look at how there are single cases of the virus now in almost every state. I bet all those people didn't have contact with each other. There are probably 1000s of people in between.

It may sound strange... but at this point we should hope adequate tests come out and they discover millions of people have it. That would indicate an extremely low death rate, far below flu A and B. The real danger is if all the tests come out and few others have it, because the death rate will be high.

Cancelling everything in life, tanking the economy and stock market, will have a huge human life cost, too.

Most of the people I know that have taken the flu vaccines became sick. There isn't a lot of faith in those vaccines, and they are formulated on a guess of which flu will prosper in the flu season and they often admit they were wrong.

What I wish we would do is stay calm and look for higher standards we can keep in place permanently to reduce all kinds of flu. Type A and B are deadly and have never received enough attention for their harm. I hope coronavirus brings us to our senses to go after a safer world from all flus.

Mar 07, 2020 04:59 PM #55

Most of the people I know, including family, always get the vaccine, I even got the pneumonia shot a few yrs back. I have a low resistance to pneumococcal infections. They guess wrong sometimes but it still lessens the side effects.

Mar 07, 2020 05:19 PM #56

Good explainer from the la times. https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-03-05/flu-killed-more-people-coronavirus-covid-19 ↗

Mar 07, 2020 09:42 PM #57

@drgnslayr While not for government-run healthcare I agree that something is wrong with our system. I think it is a combination of the insurance companies, as well doctors and hospitals double-charging. Have a good friend who knows a well-known doctor, she said that he admitted as much while saying that it is common practice. They overcharge, and then the insurance companies have to pay more - an endless cycle.

I live in a relatively small burg (I have private insurance, but usually use the VA), and here they actually make seniors and everyone else pay 20 dollars before they even get in to see their doctor.

Mar 08, 2020 12:07 AM #58

1 lady, under 50, confirmed in jo co

Mar 08, 2020 01:32 AM #59

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

1 lady, under 50, confirmed in jo co

Yep 1st case here in Ks just another case though how many did she spread this too before she knew about it - -wll you can expect more. - -I read NY has now declared a state of Emergency lso

Mar 08, 2020 02:10 PM #60

@Marco

What this virus shows us is we can't have people uninsured in this country. It creates a danger to all of us.

There are people who have had a coronavirus test and then billed several thousand dollars. You can't put public health and safety in situations like that.

Mar 08, 2020 02:41 PM #61

When healthcare was made universally available and affordable my premium doubled and reduced the level of service I had be receiving (no longer offered). I fully understand why everyone isn’t insured. When the insurance companies thought they had everyone forced into buying their product they raised prices. I don’t want the government involved in my healthcare at all, they mess everything up.

As far as the numbers go I have healthcare and am not likely to get counted if infected, I have to be pretty near death to go to the doctors office outside of routine maintenance. The number of infected and survived is far higher that we will ever know, but we will hear about every death.

This is a new virus, new is scary. Unfortunately there is no way to quarantine it now, a month ago yes. Now it’s spread to too many areas/people to be contained. Instances of new infection in areas hit first are going down indicating it’s burning itself out. We are in the front end here, but within a few months it’ll be over and we have the summer on our side - less forced inside time we trade domes for open top stadiums. With any luck it won’t get as bad here as it did overseas just do to timing (it won’t be due to preparedness).

Mar 08, 2020 02:50 PM #62

@drgnslayr said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

@Marco

What this virus shows us is we can't have people uninsured in this country. It creates a danger to all of us.

There are people who have had a coronavirus test and then billed several thousand dollars. You can't put public health and safety in situations like that.

Stories like that are why the government needs to stay the hell out of public health industry. Too many entities wanting a piece of the pie drives prices up for everyone.

Mar 08, 2020 05:06 PM #63

I heard on tv this am the cdc is reimbursing everyone for their tests.

Mar 08, 2020 05:12 PM #64

The California Insurance Commissioner ordered insurance companies to cover the cost of testing. Nationally, the president should be working with the states to do the same.

People need to understand that a death rate that is really high, like 30 to 60% for MERS and SARS, keeps the disease from rampaging very far--people get very sick, they are put in care, they die.

It drives me crazy when people focus on whether the death rate is higher or lower than flu. We know how flu spreads; decades of data demonstrates the flu's infectiousness and incubation periods; there are vaccines that even if only 50% effective stiil protect fully half the recipients, and would be more effective if people would stop thinking intuition is better than science; there are antivirals to administer to reduce the severity even when contracted.

The COVID-19 virus is dangerous regardless of the overall fatality rate. The lethality is indeed highly skewed toward the elderly, but it is the lack of ability to identify it before showing symptoms that makes everything about it a game-changer from the flu. Best evidence (including from Europe, not just China) is that incubation could take up to 3 weeks, during which time little is known about how or when it can be spread to new people, all before becoming symptomatic.

For every person bravely saying that they don't fear the virus and so they refuse to restrict their activities or change their habits, please remember the hundreds of people whom you may be in close contact with every week. You might not be afraid of getting infected, but consider this scenario: you catch it from an asymptomatic someone near you at Starbucks, who returned last week from California and whose kid caught it from a teacher who returned on Feb 21 from the Princess ship now off SF and taught for a week before getting symptoms. You spend the next week with no symptoms, and at some point you pass it on to a neighbor, who is a nurse at an assisted living facility, who manages to spread it to others there, including the food service workers who infect 50% of the residents. Public health officials go nuts as up to 25% of the infected residents die. And no one has a clue how it got there.

The point is that younger people have a responsibility to not disregard the huge danger to other people just because they may only get mildly ill. An infection rate of 2 to 3% still means literally hundreds of thousands or even millions of people will die if it spreads throughout the population.

Anyone who says we are close to a vaccine that can prevent the spread of this is lying. Anyone who says we are effectively controlling the spread is wrong. Anyone who says that it is no worse than the flu, and therefore should not be treated differently, is blind.

That does not mean society has to close down. It does mean we have to be very very careful. Remember that even with all we know about how norovirus gets spread (feces--sorry!) studies show between 1/3 to 1/2 of people using publicrestrooms don't wash their hands. Being careful with hygiene can help, but not guarantee, to protect you from the idiots among us.

Mar 08, 2020 06:41 PM #65

@mayjay I went a full decade without catching a cold...then I had kids. I guess the safest rout is getting those suckers adopted off. Lol

Mar 08, 2020 08:17 PM #66

@mayjay said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

The California Insurance Commissioner ordered insurance companies to cover the cost of testing. Nationally, the president should be working with the states to do the same.

People need to understand that a death rate that is really high, like 30 to 60% for MERS and SARS, keeps the disease from rampaging very far--people get very sick, they are put in care, they die.

It drives me crazy when people focus on whether the death rate is higher or lower than flu. We know how flu spreads; decades of data demonstrates the flu's infectiousness and incubation periods; there are vaccines that even if only 50% effective stiil protect fully half the recipients, and would be more effective if people would stop thinking intuition is better than science; there are antivirals to administer to reduce the severity even when contracted.

The COVID-19 virus is dangerous regardless of the overall fatality rate. The lethality is indeed highly skewed toward the elderly, but it is the lack of ability to identify it before showing symptoms that makes everything about it a game-changer from the flu. Best evidence (including from Europe, not just China) is that incubation could take up to 3 weeks, during which time little is known about how or when it can be spread to new people, all before becoming symptomatic.

For every person bravely saying that they don't fear the virus and so they refuse to restrict their activities or change their habits, please remember the hundreds of people whom you may be in close contact with every week. You might not be afraid of getting infected, but consider this scenario: you catch it from an asymptomatic someone near you at Starbucks, who returned last week from California and whose kid caught it from a teacher who returned on Feb 21 from the Princess ship now off SF and taught for a week before getting symptoms. You spend the next week with no symptoms, and at some point you pass it on to a neighbor, who is a nurse at an assisted living facility, who manages to spread it to others there, including the food service workers who infect 50% of the residents. Public health officials go nuts as up to 25% of the infected residents die. And no one has a clue how it got there.

The point is that younger people have a responsibility to not disregard the huge danger to other people just because they may only get mildly ill. An infection rate of 2 to 3% still means literally hundreds of thousands or even millions of people will die if it spreads throughout the population.

Anyone who says we are close to a vaccine that can prevent the spread of this is lying. Anyone who says we are effectively controlling the spread is wrong. Anyone who says that it is no worse than the flu, and therefore should not be treated differently, is blind.

That does not mean society has to close down. It does mean we have to be very very careful. Remember that even with all we know about how norovirus gets spread (feces--sorry!) studies show between 1/3 to 1/2 of people using publicrestrooms don't wash their hands. Being careful with hygiene can help, but not guarantee, to protect you from the idiots among us.

Well I am just in a position that I'm on medi-care. - -got a e-mail the other day saying that if a test was needed for me that it will be covered -- nice to know

Mar 08, 2020 10:20 PM #67

@Crimsonorblue22 That is bad..

Mar 08, 2020 10:23 PM #68

@dylans said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

When healthcare was made universally available and affordable my premium doubled and reduced the level of service I had be receiving (no longer offered). I fully understand why everyone isn’t insured. When the insurance companies thought they had everyone forced into buying their product they raised prices. I don’t want the government involved in my healthcare at all, they mess everything up.

As far as the numbers go I have healthcare and am not likely to get counted if infected, I have to be pretty near death to go to the doctors office outside of routine maintenance. The number of infected and survived is far higher that we will ever know, but we will hear about every death.

This is a new virus, new is scary. Unfortunately there is no way to quarantine it now, a month ago yes. Now it’s spread to too many areas/people to be contained. Instances of new infection in areas hit first are going down indicating it’s burning itself out. We are in the front end here, but within a few months it’ll be over and we have the summer on our side - less forced inside time we trade domes for open top stadiums. With any luck it won’t get as bad here as it did overseas just do to timing (it won’t be due to preparedness).

I agree, a month ago yes. That is what I have been saying - our governments failed us, put markets over lives. As soon as the damn thing was announced all travel to and from China - including connecting destinations and fucking cruise ships - should have been banned.

Mar 08, 2020 10:27 PM #69

@dylans Oh man, kid colds are the worst! They go to daycare and later school - festering incubators - and build somewhat of a tolerance. Man, I used to catch horrible what I call daycare flu - all of those little snotty-nosed kids.

Mar 08, 2020 10:53 PM #70

Read of Wibw news - there is a KU student that is in self quarantine , she is a Junior and was doing Abroad Study in Northern Italy - -she is at her home and has been in Contact with KU. - Says she thinks nothing to worry about , saying this isn't how she had it planned. was finally contacted and was told time to come home.

Sai she has been really diligent about like wiping the Airline seat - -washing her hands - -santizing and such . - - -not really worried just passing along - - not confirmed with virus or anything but they are just taking precautions - -hope she doesn't come down with it anyways. - -their cases went up by over 1,400 in one day - -holy crap. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Mar 09, 2020 03:07 AM #71

Hang onto your butts ?s=21

Mar 09, 2020 04:49 AM #72

Some random facts updated as of this evening...

110/195 countries infected

109,974
Total Confirmed Cases

3,828
Deceased

542 known cases in US

22 deceased

40-70% projected to contract it

15% of US population is over 65

8 states have declared state of emergency

1/4 of population of Italy quarantined

Mar 09, 2020 06:25 AM #73

@StLJhawk said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

Some random facts updated as of this evening...

110/195 countries infected

109,974
Total Confirmed Cases

3,828
Deceased

542 known cases in US

22 deceased

40-70% projected to contract it

15% of US population is over 65

8 states have declared state of emergency

1/4 of population of Italy quarantined

Very uncool, to say the least...

Mar 09, 2020 12:58 PM #74

@StLJhawk

Some more stats:

ACTIVE CASES
44,914 Currently Infected Patients

38,935 (87%) in Mild Condition

5,979 (13%) Serious or Critical

CLOSED CASES
66,554 Cases which had an outcome

62,671 (94%) Recovered / Discharged

3,883 (6%) Deaths

By one study, it seems to be taking on average 14 days from known exposure to onset of symptoms, but serious cases then take a more severe turn in another few days. I cannot remember in detail, but IIRC recovery for these is taking 6 to 8 weeks on average, but this is all so new there hasn't been many "6 to 8 week" periods yet.

It is the number of cases requiring hospitalization/respirators that sets it apart from the flu. Health experts are worried about the hospital system being overwhelmed if millions get infected, as seems likely.

Data updated several times a day for every country here (fascinating to read the timeline, too!):

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ ↗

Mar 09, 2020 01:42 PM #75

A few random questions…

Assuming the projections for a 40-70% infection rate are correct, lets forget about the death rate from the virus itself and think about what happens when half the population gets a bad case of the flu in a relatively short period of time.

If you’re in an accident or fall down the stairs, how long will it be before the police, fire dept or ambulance responds? Who will be available to treat you at the hospital? Who will deliver the medicine and supplies to the hospital?

When a storm causes massive power outages, how long will it take to get the lines fixed?

Who is going to deliver, stock, sell and prepare the food and supplies we need every day?

I think we’re in for a rough couple of months.

And I wouldn’t hold my breath about the tournament, which totally sucks because our chances to win it are so darn good.

Mar 09, 2020 02:06 PM #76

@StLJhawk So buy some face masks and loot the country while it’s on the crapper!

Mar 09, 2020 02:45 PM #77

@StLJhawk said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

A few random questions…

Assuming the projections for a 40-70% infection rate are correct, lets forget about the death rate from the virus itself and think about what happens when half the population gets a bad case of the flu in a relatively short period of time.

If you’re in an accident or fall down the stairs, how long will it be before the police, fire dept or ambulance responds? Who will be available to treat you at the hospital? Who will deliver the medicine and supplies to the hospital?

When a storm causes massive power outages, how long will it take to get the lines fixed?

Who is going to deliver, stock, sell and prepare the food and supplies we need every day?

I think we’re in for a rough couple of months.

And I wouldn’t hold my breath about the tournament, which totally sucks because our chances to win it are so darn good.

Sounds like the chances are becoming stronger day by day about the Tourney being played in empty arena's, - Read where the NCAA already has a plan in place just for that if it comes down to it

Mar 09, 2020 03:11 PM #78

@dylans

Well that would be one strategy I guess. Another would be to prepare for a rough couple of months as best you can.

Mar 09, 2020 05:29 PM #79

No doubt it’s the governments plan to save social security. Those suckers just keep clinging to life. Sheesh

Probably better not riot - it looks like over 80% of people will have only mild symptoms. Gonna have to come up with better retirement plan.

I should’ve bought up masks, then I could hand them out so the sick suckers don’t cough on me. Unfortunately they aren’t going to do much other than serve as a reminder to not touch your face. I did see where a creative Asian fellow was using thong underwear for a mask. Lol colorful and 3 for $6.

Mar 09, 2020 05:49 PM #80

@jayballer73

I heard that too. But regardless, a chunk of players are going to be sick with the flu come April. Wouldn’t it suck if the champs were whatever team had the healthiest roster?

Mar 09, 2020 06:52 PM #81

@StLJhawk said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

@dylans

Well that would be one strategy I guess. Another would be to prepare for a rough couple of months as best you can.

This isn’t directed at anyone in specific - Are many poorly prepared and living week to week paycheck to paycheck? This is a serious question. Is that why the nationwide panic? I live as I always have - prepared for about anything. Keep a years worth of beef in the freezer, a months worth of perishables on hand, several months of freezer meals and non-perishable products, vehicles are all full of fuel. Always be ready...I guess it’s the old Boy Scout in me.

Why are we still allowed to have mass gatherings? Seems like an easy policy to stop the spread of the virus. Request the stoppage of crowds of over 100 people until things calm down. Maybe delay the ncaa tournament so all those travelers don’t grab a little COVID-19 souvenir to take home with them. You won’t see me at a ballgame until next season, not worth the risk.

Or is it just the fear of the unknown menace as it advances across the globe now threatening our very doorstep?

The best thing to come of this is the economy grinding to a halt in China. - look at the air pollution maps. It only took a couple weeks of shutdowns to vastly improve air quality in China - their real number one killer.

I’ll admit I sure as hell don’t like what’s going on, has me nervous for my grandparents and elderly friends. The only way I can see making it much worse is panicking. Or perhaps if the Saudis devalued the oil market destroying the tax base for many of the rural communities that are already strapped for cash making medical funding harder to come by...

Mar 09, 2020 07:01 PM #82

@mayjay

Interesting read. I follow your logic of expressing mass danger because of the weakness of the virus (not showing up for a long time, or no symptoms while spreading).

Might it actually help most people to get it and help build their resistance to other bugs?

The real risk is elderly and those with medical conditions. Might it be wiser (especially at this point) to quarantine care homes and parts of medical facilities versus trying to quarantine the general public where it is widely spread?

What do we know about common treatments, like black elderberry, blueberries and vitamin C? Perhaps we widely spread healthy preventative and treatment nourishment to heavily reduce the death rate in elderly and others.

What I do know... is our current reaction is going to bring huge death and suffering because of economic downfall. Throwing us into a recession or depression isn't the answer. We can act like staying home and washing hands is going to make this go away and that is just nonsense!

Health and preservation starts within each human body and we have a responsibility to ourselves to take care of ourselves.

I'm not afraid of this bug in the least, but I fear contracting it and giving it to my 87 yr old dad!

This is going to spread all through America. I have little doubt. I just wonder if the death statistics outperform influenza A and B. I'm not saying it is a contest... I think we should have always treated all influenza with more attention and prevention.

Last.... concerning vaccines.... why is it necessary to formulate vaccines with very toxic materials? I'm not a general proponent for vaccines because they use chemicals and compounds like mercury and formaldehyde, which are known toxins that weaken the immune system while the vaccine targets protection for one infection. Hate to be a whistleblower... but the CDC just lost a major court case and had to expose the mountain of studies they have claiming to disprove a connection between autism and vaccines. They did not show this mountain of studies and presented very little material relating to the subject at all. We need reassurances. More people are taking an active role in their health and hiding info from the public is extremely harmful.

Mar 09, 2020 07:51 PM #83

@drgnslayr

Umm, can you point me to that reference about the CDC losing the court case? My son has autism and I’ve done a LOT of research and found absolutely no link between vaccines and the disease and I think it’s very dangerous and irresponsible to suggest otherwise unless all that earlier research is somehow proven wrong.

Mar 09, 2020 07:55 PM #84

There's a case in, yes Mizzou, where the daughter I believe has a confirmed case. The rest of the family was to stay home for 14 days. The dad decides to take the other daughter to a school function. Ewww!

Mar 09, 2020 08:18 PM #85

@Crimsonorblue22 šŸ™„ we can’t fix stupid.

Mar 09, 2020 08:42 PM #86

Jesus. There is no link between vaccines and autism. The original study was fraught with awful and avoidable errors and the doctor lost his medical license for incompetence and fraud.

There's no study that specifically evaluates the claim "no link between vaccines in autism" because you can't exactly run an RCT with the MMR vaccine or something similar. That would defeat the entire purpose of the vaccination. The group that filed the lawsuit is essentially asking for studies that would've violated about every IRB rule on the planet and never could actually be performed. The best approach we have are case control, which is imperfect. This takes about 3 minutes of googling to figure out. Top result was a meta-analysis with over 1 million subjects and found absolutely zero association between vaccinations and autism. Spreading bullshit rumors and pseudo-science is very bad during a public health event.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X14006367?via%3Dihub ↗

Mar 09, 2020 08:55 PM #87

Vaccinate your children.

Mar 09, 2020 09:08 PM #88

@FarmerJayhawk

Yes and thank you!!

Mar 09, 2020 09:50 PM #89

Two problems with Corona virus as I see them right now, with the info we have.

  1. Seems to be much more highly contagious than the regular flu. The initial spread was so fast that the spread alone was alarming.

  2. The death rate for those over the age of 60 is very high. Yeah, people get the flu every year, and people die from the flu every year. But its not like people over 80 have a 1 in 7 chance of dying from the flu if they get it each year, which is what Corona virus is currently at here in the U.S. according to available numbers.

The fact that it is highly contagious, and also unusually fatal for those over a certain age is what got my attention. This isn't pneumonia or the flu for those over 60 or so. It's unusually dangerous, which is strange and also very concerning.

Mar 10, 2020 12:06 AM #90

Well at least I feel they handled the docking of the Cruise ship in Oakland today pretty well. !st peope of were the 21 confirmed cases they came off 1st and taken to hospitals , then the remaining passengers are to come off and will be put in quarinteed for two weeks , and the Crusise ship staff will remain at seas for their two week period to see if they catch virus. - -Bout all you can do. Had about a 10 acre section roped/fenced off when passengers departed /docked. -Would say about they can do at this point.

Heard that Italy is shutting completely down. Entire Nation now - -nobody in -- nobody out. - -THATS SERIOUS FOR SURE

Mar 10, 2020 12:52 AM #91

So I was talking to a customer of mine (older man who just had kidney surgery a week ago) when he mentioned an old hired hand of his stopped in; hadn’t seen him in 16 years. He had been living in Nebraska, but the last few years has been living north of Seattle in Washington. He felt bad that his wife and kids were too sick to make the trip... ugg šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø Common sense would go a long way.

Mar 10, 2020 03:48 AM #92

@StLJhawk

I remain open minded. I followed along with the doctors on my dad until they almost killed him. I found a wellness doctor and we figured out what meds we could pull him off and he is doing well today, very stable 87 yr old.

I'm not an anti vaxxer. I also don't just follow the herd.

My biggest concern... why no double-blind studies? It's the gold standard used for all new pharma medications. Why not for vaccinations?

Most vaccines were formulated in the 60s. How much technology do we use today that is stuck in the 60s? At that time they were not focused on many of the chemicals used. I have little doubt that they could come up with much safer formulas today, also more effective. But that costs a fortune to retest. Our kids' health evidently isn't worth the expense.

Mar 10, 2020 04:13 AM #93

@justanotherfan said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

The fact that it is highly contagious, and also unusually fatal for those over a certain age is what got my attention. This isn’t pneumonia or the flu for those over 60 or so. It’s unusually dangerous, which is strange and also very concerning.

Pneumonia and influenza are extremely dangerous for the elderly and for those with a compromised immune system.

It's unknown what the death rate is compared to other influenza because of inadequate testing, more than likely non-testing on symptoms because of the belief it is another flu, and the fact that a high % of those with the virus show no symptoms so are never tested and included in the statistics.

It does appear to have some symptoms acting a bit different from other known influenza. Those exact symptoms are still being evaluated because of the newness of this virus (at least the newness of the discovery).

Mar 10, 2020 04:13 AM #94

@drgnslayr said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

@StLJhawk

I remain open minded. I followed along with the doctors on my dad until they almost killed him. I found a wellness doctor and we figured out what meds we could pull him off and he is doing well today, very stable 87 yr old.

I'm not an anti vaxxer. I also don't just follow the herd.

My biggest concern... why no double-blind studies? It's the gold standard used for all new pharma medications. Why not for vaccinations?

Most vaccines were formulated in the 60s. How much technology do we use today that is stuck in the 60s? At that time they were not focused on many of the chemicals used. I have little doubt that they could come up with much safer formulas today, also more effective. But that costs a fortune to retest. Our kids' health evidently isn't worth the expense.

Vaccines don’t cause autism. There isn’t a single rigorous study that shows that result. The only rigorous studies we have on the topic explicitly find NO LINK. This isn’t difficult or that complicated. Like I said above, doing RCT’s on vaccines we’ve already established as safe would violate every ethics standard we have as researchers.

I’m in education policy, and I couldn’t do a double blind study on assigning kids to not learn math and see how they develop. That would be child abuse. Same principle here. You can’t randomize kids to not get vaccines when there’s a substantial risk to both them and society.

Technically, it’s the principle of clinical equipoise. With new drugs, we have no clinical evidence the new drug works at scale in humans, so we can do RCT’s since both treatment and control groups are in equipoise. In the case of vaccines, we’re deliberately exposing both the research subjects and society to risks we KNOW we can mitigate to almost zero, so we don’t have equipoise. It’s not about money, it’s about fidelity to the scientific method and ethics.

Mar 10, 2020 04:20 AM #95

@FarmerJayhawk

Most of these vaccines have been around for decades. It wouldn't be too difficult to form double-blind studies giving a reasonable level of confidence based just on those who refuse vaccination comparing with those who do.

The CDC had a perfect opportunity to shoot the anti vaxxers in the head by showing their mountain of studies and they didn't do it because those studies must not exist. They have also had to deal with a whistleblower employee stating they rigged some of their stats. Seems like they would love to end all of this controversy.

I'm skeptical because I watched the system kill my mother... almost kill my dad... and turned my star athlete cousin into a drug addict by prescribing him on extended use of opioids.

Mar 10, 2020 04:25 AM #96

@drgnslayr said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

@FarmerJayhawk

Most of these vaccines have been around for decades. It wouldn't be too difficult to form double-blind studies giving a reasonable level of confidence based just on those who refuse vaccination comparing with those who do.

The CDC had a perfect opportunity to shoot the anti vaxxers in the head by showing their mountain of studies and they didn't do it because those studies must not exist. They have also had to deal with a whistleblower employee stating they rigged some of their stats. Seems like they would love to end all of this controversy.

That’s not a valid research design since it’s wrought with selection bias. I don’t know what the CDC’s case is exactly but check out my post above. They even maintain a page full of evidence vaccines are safe: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/research/publications/index.html ↗

We know with absurd degrees of confidence vaccines don’t cause autism. The study that opened the door to that line of thinking was obviously fraudulent. The study was retracted and the PI lost his medical license for publishing indefensible garbage.

The burden of proof is on people that have a causal claim to show one. If there is one, show it. I gave you an observational study with over 1 million subjects and found ZERO effects. Disprove it or trust the medical consensus. It’s not groupthink, it’s sound science.

Mar 10, 2020 04:30 AM #97

@FarmerJayhawk

I'm with you and I question Wakefield's work on this.

And you are right that there could be selection bias. But that could be countered by increasing the study size. These studies are performed every single day in all areas of science. That's why I mentioned confidence level.

Why wouldn't the CDC reference that study in their court case? There are thousands of studies that are not well accepted by the science world. I think Wakefield would fall in that category.

Scientific studies (in general) have lost credibility over the past 40 years since so much of it is not performed by academic institutions who are unbiased. Today, most studies have a commercial client who is paying for a specific result through commercial organizations posing as real science. So much of grant-based science has dried up as the government has pulled budget dollars away from real science while lifting the bar for what is considered "acceptable science". It can cost $1 billion to bring a new med on the market. That limits the players to just a handful and they can't afford to invest in unbiased studies.

Mar 10, 2020 04:44 AM #98

@drgnslayr said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

@FarmerJayhawk

I'm with you and I question Wakefield's work on this.

And you are right that there could be selection bias. But that could be countered by increasing the study size. These studies are performed every single day in all areas of science. That's why I mentioned confidence level.

Why wouldn't the CDC reference that study in their court case? There are thousands of studies that are not well accepted by the science world. I think Wakefield would fall in that category.

Selection Bias doesn’t go away with additional sample size. In fact, it gets worse (for math reasons I won’t get into). Like I said, we can’t do them because A) we know vaccines are very effective and B) there’s no compelling argument to expose FEWER people to them since we know as vaccination rates go down, more people get sick and die. Would violate all the rules of ethics we all subscribe to as professional researchers.

We can get away with it in other trials because most diseases aren’t contagious and there’s a much smaller impact on society. For example, if we’re testing an intervention for heart disease, it’s not contagious and benefits are questionable. In this case, vaccines are almost exclusively for communicable diseases and have a big societal impact. Exposing society to measles for a RCT to test MMR is highly unethical (again, equipoise).

I bet they just ignored the case because frankly they have better things to do than fight a case with almost no policy implications from a group of cranks.

Mar 10, 2020 04:50 AM #99

@FarmerJayhawk

Who would benefit by spending millions and millions to perform an acceptable study proving vaccines have a causal relationship with autism?

Pharma? nope

Parents? yes

Parents can't afford to run an acceptable study. Our gov can do it, but we don't have the resources to blow in science any longer.

I'm not totally disagreeing with you. I'm just "questioning authority" and those making billions off of this. I question if they have our interest at heart more than making big cash. Those same players sure didn't stick up for us while they pushed through Congress the application of opioids, saying they were safe to administer beyond a short term use. We see what happened there! And they knew the addictive behavior beyond extremely short use. But on vaccines, they are angels... hmmmm...

I'm an old-timer who had kids late in life. My kids are not vaccinated yet. I continue to sit on the fence. But what do I risk? A few bumps and a fever? We don't live in Africa where measles can be a death risk. It's been ages since someone died in America from measles... in a country of 300+ million.

When I was a kid we had measles parties. That's how I was "vaccinated." Kids were put with other kids who had measles so they could get it over with in their youth. Worked for me. Also... it was believed that childhood diseases are there for a purpose; to build immune system.

My kids go to a pediatrician who is a definite believer in vaccination. He told me he wasn't about to argue with me because my kids are (by far) the healthiest kids in his practice (and he has a huge practice).

My kids have not been sick this entire school year while all their friends at school have been sick 3 - 6 times this year!

Mar 10, 2020 05:01 AM #100

@drgnslayr said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

@FarmerJayhawk

Who would benefit by spending millions and millions to perform an acceptable study proving vaccines have a causal relationship with autism?

Pharma? nope

Parents? yes

Parents can't afford to run an acceptable study. Our gov can do it, but we don't have the resources to blow in science any longer.

I'm not totally disagreeing with you. I'm just "questioning authority" and those making billions off of this. I question if they have our interest at heart more than making big cash. Those same players sure didn't stick up for us while they pushed through Congress the application of opioids, saying they were safe to administer beyond a short term use. We see what happened there! But on vaccines, they are angels... hmmmm...

That’s a red herring. First, we’ve already done the heavy lifting on vaccine science and found zilch in terms of risk.

Second, Pharma isn’t doing this work. It’s people like me at public universities. Zero dollars go in my pocket when I get a government grant. I spend it all on the study, and that’s what almost all of us do (or else it’s fraud).

Third, parents don’t have the technical know how to do the study. I’m even trained in these methods (PhD candidate at UNC) and wouldn’t feel good about doing a vaccine study. Health just isn’t my thing. I could run an experiment on curriculum, but not vaccines.

Mar 10, 2020 05:02 AM #101

@FarmerJayhawk

I do respect your posts on this and am considering your point of view.

Mar 10, 2020 05:08 AM #102

@drgnslayr said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

@FarmerJayhawk

I do respect your posts on this and am considering your point of view.

Please do! I’m not saying you’re a kook or anything like that, you seem like the type to look at things critically, which is good!

It’s an easy topic to get overwhelmed with conflicting information and takes a certain degree of know how to really figure out and filter the wheat from the chaff.

Mar 10, 2020 05:11 AM #103

@FarmerJayhawk

We live in complex times. All I want is my kids to be safe, and I weigh the risks on both sides.

How much formaldehyde is safe to inject into my kids?

That is just one component found in all (I believe all) vaccines today. It's a toxin and linked by our government to respiratory disease.

The number of vaccines they give kids today continues to grow. Depending on what a parent selects, that child may receive up to 100 shots.

There has been a huge spike in respiratory disease in children today.

But there fails to be a study done on this possible link.

I can't answer that question on formaldehyde (which is just one of the toxins in vaccines). When I can feel comfortable with how much toxin I can inject into my children safely I can then feel okay to give them injections (if I believe in the benefits).

If I'm an optimist I believe answers are coming soon on vaccine research where we won't have to include extreme toxins in vaccines to get the results we want. Sometimes I am optimistic... other times not.

I wanted a PhD in science but it wasn't offered at my school and I didn't have the funds to go elsewhere. Had to stick to my academic scholarship. So I stuck it out for my Masters of Science. It required the same PhD work of performing a formidable study, defense before peers and publishing results.

Mar 10, 2020 05:32 AM #104

@drgnslayr said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

@FarmerJayhawk

We live in complex times. All I want is my kids to be safe, and I weigh the risks on both sides.

How much formaldehyde is safe to inject into my kids?

That is just one component found in all (I believe all) vaccines today. It's a toxin and linked by our government to respiratory disease.

The number of vaccines they give kids today continues to grow. Depending on what a parent selects, that child may receive up to 100 shots.

There has been a huge spike in respiratory disease in children today.

But there fails to be a study done on this possible link.

I can't answer that question on formaldehyde (which is just one of the toxins in vaccines). When I can feel comfortable with how much toxin I can inject into my children I can then feel safe to give them injections.

If I'm an optimist I believe answers are coming soon on vaccine research where we won't have to include extreme toxins in vaccines to get the results we want. Sometimes I am optimistic... other times not.

I wanted a PhD in science but it wasn't offered at my school and I didn't have the funds to go elsewhere. Had to stick to my academic scholarship. So I stuck it out for my Masters of Science. It required the same PhD work of performing a formidable study, defense before peers and publishing results.

Well, if it’s formaldehyde you’re worried about, you’ll get a much bigger dose dissecting mice than you did with a vaccine. You’ll get more exposure to aluminum eating Red Lobster than a vaccine. There’s nothing rigorous that suggests vaccines are anything but safe.
https://wayback.archive-it.org/7993/20170405003134/https:/www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/ScienceResearch/ucm284520.htm ↗

Mar 10, 2020 05:35 AM #105

@FarmerJayhawk

Thanks for the link!

Red Lobster! I love heavymetal music and my heavymetal shellfish! hahaaa

And thanks for having an extended discussion while keeping it classy and respectful!

Mar 10, 2020 05:44 AM #106

@drgnslayr said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

@FarmerJayhawk

Thanks for the link!

Red Lobster! I love heavymetal music and my heavymetal shellfish! hahaaa

And thanks for having an extended discussion while keeping it classy and respectful!

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Mar 10, 2020 05:45 AM #107

@FarmerJayhawk

My real weakness at RL!

Mar 10, 2020 06:10 AM #108

https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/03/03/business/28reuters-china-health-constellation.html ↗

Whewwww!!!

Mar 10, 2020 01:02 PM #109

Just came across Fox - - Harvard letting Students know - - -NOT to return from Spring break until things are better I guess will be on line class.

A friend of mine told me she has a Nurse that works at a walk in Clinic here in Topeka. Says some idiot walked in and told them he had been in Contact with a person that was infected with the Corona virus he had been around in Florida.

So they had to call the CDC they was told they had to close the clinic for 14days and that anyone that had come within 6 ft of this idiot now could be infected - Cant stress enough if you feel like you might have symptoms they say CALL your doctor do not go in until they get things straightened out ready for you and wash - - wash - - wash your hand take ALL PRECAUTIONS

Mar 10, 2020 01:46 PM #110

Nigeria Is Battling Another Viral Disease

While the new coronavirus is beginning to test the country's public health system, Lassa fever may have beaten it to the punch. Nigeria's already gripped by an active outbreak of the severe viral hemorrhagic fever, recording around 774 cases and 132 deaths across 26 states since the beginning of the year. Lassa fever is also far deadlier than coronavirus, with experts estimating a 23 percent mortality rate.

How bad is this epidemic? Statistics suggest it'll not only surpass last year's 810 cases, but will also last longer and cause more damage.

Thankfully this one shouldn’t spread as nearly far as Coronavirus. More like MERS

Mar 10, 2020 01:53 PM #111

If you have someone elderly you want to protect... wear masks and gloves around them and keep them at home for the time being.

Purchase black elderberry (sambucol) to give them daily. There have been small studies showing effectiveness against flu symptoms. All foods with heavy antioxidants destroy viruses. I use organic blueberries with my family.

Several vitamins are helpful, including C.

BTW: I'm not a doctor. Everyone should have contact with a quality physician. I'm discussing lifestyle, not medicine.

Mar 10, 2020 02:34 PM #112

Santa Clara California now placing Ban/closing down all large gatherings for the rest of the month

Mar 10, 2020 02:51 PM #113

Leaving KC in a few hours after a weeklong visit with my sister to head back home to Riverside CA. Plane has a stop in Sacramento, oh joy. Hopefully it will be half empty again so I don’t have to sit Right next to some cougher.

Mar 10, 2020 03:36 PM #114

@drgnslayr

My biggest concern is for my parents (both in their 60s now). If I get coronavirus, I am likely going to be okay because of my age and my typically hardy immune system (knock on wood, of course). But for my parents, they are in the higher risk category because of age, so that is where I am more concerned.

Everyone stay healthy and by all means WASH YOUR HANDS!!!

Mar 10, 2020 03:50 PM #115

Just heard Ivy league cancelling tourney, true?

Mar 10, 2020 04:09 PM #116

@Crimsonorblue22 confirmed per ESPN

Mar 10, 2020 04:26 PM #117

I think people are getting a little too crazy at this point. Over 70% of people in China that got the virus are now recovered and doing fine. That’s where it hit the worst. Sounds like it’s high risk for elders and people with immune disorders. I’d recommend them folks not going out unless it is a must. Everyone else wash their hands often. I bet it blows over by the end of April.

Mar 10, 2020 04:39 PM #118

@StLJhawk I'll just say it - if 40 to 70% of our population becomes infected this nation will be forever changed.

Mar 10, 2020 04:49 PM #119

@Marco
I know, I feel the same way. But like KJay says above, China seems to be mostly over it and I’m hoping for the best here. Maybe it will not be that big a deal here, but seems wiser to at least be open to the idea that it might be. Not overreact, yet not blow it off either.

As with most things, finding balance can be tricky.

Mar 10, 2020 04:54 PM #120

@StLJhawk I'm not in the danger group, but Iove my parents and country. This is very scary stuff.

Mar 10, 2020 08:32 PM #121

@kjayhawks said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

I think people are getting a little too crazy at this point. Over 70% of people in China that got the virus are now recovered and doing fine. That’s where it hit the worst. Sounds like it’s high risk for elders and people with immune disorders. I’d recommend them folks not going out unless it is a must. Everyone else wash their hands often. I bet it blows over by the end of April.

people may or call me what you want I'm 66 yrs old with heart conditions and other underlying conditions I don't want to become part of that THIRTY % that's not fine. - The wife and I have are groceries stock piled going to become a hermit for awhile

Mar 10, 2020 08:38 PM #122

Well guys , just came across on our local news. We now have the Corona Virus here in TOPEKA KS. - We have 2 confirmed Corona Virus in out Local Hospital in Topeka St Mt Vail. - that's just wonderful.

On top of that I have a friend that is a Nurse at a walk in Clinic here and Topeka , now this is separate but This guy walks in to this Clinic here in Topeka yesterday and promptly says - - - he was infected with the virus he had contacted with a Corona victim in Florida. - - - WTF -- idiots , they have been saying again & again DO NOT go into your doctor CALL YOUR DOCTOR. - -So he walks into out clinic so they had to call the CDC and they promptly said - - shut it down. SO now this Clinic has to be shut down for the next 14 days and on top of that every one that was in the clinic at this time has now has to be quarnateed -Holy crap people think. - -So things NOT GOING WELL here stay safe my friends

Mar 10, 2020 08:43 PM #123

Gov. Cooper declared a state of emergency today, and UNC is likely going all-online next week after spring break. Gonna get weird.

Mar 10, 2020 08:53 PM #124

well got to do retraction guys/ Did some checking I was going from information that was called to me from other Topeka friends. - -No confirmed virus in Topeka. - -No confirmed virus. I went on line checked a little further. - -WIBW say the Shawnee Co health says that yes there are two that is self quarnteed for POSSIBLE - - - POSSIBLE virus these two contacted Shawnee Co saying they had traveled to areas where the CDC had issues alerts. At the time no Confirmed case in the Topeka area and these two are showing no sympthoms right now. - - WHEW that's good , although still scary and to close, just wanted to holler back and apologize my friends wrong info I'm sorry. Again was going off what these other friends had said was coming out. It came from KSNT and they had to retract their statement. - -ROCK CHALK MY FRIENDS

Mar 10, 2020 09:08 PM #125

Well Ivy league cancelled Post Season tourney men and women's because of corona Virus. - -Authorities now saying non essential travel should not happen/taken. - - The hosts said the IVY League travel is not essential.

they said the NCAA tourney is the next Domino to fall. The CDC authorites saying now that the Corona Virus is now 10 times as deadly as the flue

Mar 10, 2020 09:45 PM #126

They are talking on the local sports now and Jesse Newell and they re talking that NCAA and Schools talking like sure headed to games being played with empty arena's - - No fans allowed. - - Only teams and media which will have to sit two rows behind teams.

Trending really hard to games being played in empty arena's

Mar 10, 2020 10:29 PM #127

@jayballer73 I think it would be interesting if they would allow 1,000 fans spread out throughout the stadium - kinda like a Missouri game. But the ticket prices would be outrageous. As opposed to completely empty stadiums, but that would not happen as you still have too many choke points putting all those people in the same places.

Mar 10, 2020 10:34 PM #128

@jayballer73 the other 30% aren’t dead. The morality rate they are saying is now closer to 1% depending on the source. In your case buddy, I’d stay at home as much as you guys are able. Hopefully y’all have some family that can help bring you supplies when needed.

Mar 10, 2020 10:42 PM #129

@justanotherfan

I'm in the same boat as you.... except I'm 61 and my dad is 87 and stuck in a bed.

The media is just starting to figure out that the real line of defense is between everyone and the elderly and those with immune issues.

Now there is a run on black elderberry extract. Better get it while you can!

Mar 10, 2020 10:59 PM #130

@kjayhawks said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

@jayballer73 the other 30% aren’t dead. The morality rate they are saying is now closer to 1% depending on the source. In your case buddy, I’d stay at home as much as you guys are able. Hopefully y’all have some family that can help bring you supplies when needed.

CDC just came out and said they are now finding that the Corona Virus is 10 times as deadly as the flu for sure staying put. With my pace maker and other issues, the wife With Severe COPD doctors saying her lungs about shot - low immune system umm ya we not going anywhere

Mar 10, 2020 11:00 PM #131

@dylans said in Boy guys I really just don't know best to keep tabs:

@jayballer73 I think it would be interesting if they would allow 1,000 fans spread out throughout the stadium - kinda like a Missouri game. But the ticket prices would be outrageous. As opposed to completely empty stadiums, but that would not happen as you still have too many choke points putting all those people in the same places.

lol ,that's about 500 to many for Missouri fans lmao

Mar 10, 2020 11:35 PM #132

@jayballer73 Please excuse the edit. Moved to Politics and World Affairs category and made it clear that it's the coronavirus thread since it's become that.

Mar 11, 2020 12:09 AM #133

@approxinfinity bully haha šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

Mar 11, 2020 12:09 AM #134

Duke extended spring break a week and is going all virtual for the rest of the year. Wild times.

Mar 11, 2020 12:50 AM #135

@kjayhawks said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@approxinfinity bully haha šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

Nah man you got me wrong :)

Mar 11, 2020 12:59 AM #136

@approxinfinity all fiction no malice lol

Mar 11, 2020 01:12 AM #137

Doing my part. Went on a 3-day Caribbean cruise last week (planned from last July. Took a chance and went. Probably wouldn't this week). Flew home with some lady coughing behind me on the plane the entire time from Miami. Repacked my bags and drove half way across the country to self-quarantine in a beachfront house on the outer banks.

Ran my usual 5 miles (on the beach for a change) this morning after taking this shot of my pup from the deck. Pretty sure I'm OK.

It's been rough, but I'm doing what I can to avoid crowds.

!outerbanks1.jpg ↗

Mar 11, 2020 02:09 AM #138

@DanR has it been 5.1 days since you got coughed on?

Mar 11, 2020 02:30 AM #139

@DanR very nice my friend

Mar 11, 2020 02:30 AM #140

@DanR oh good gosh!

Mar 11, 2020 02:31 AM #141

NCAA has announced that its going forward with everything at this point. No plans for canceling or playing in empty venues at this time.

Mar 11, 2020 02:47 AM #142

@kjayhawks said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

NCAA has announced that its going forward with everything at this point. No plans for canceling or playing in empty venues at this time.

Well that's good to hear , wonder if it ends up that way in the end? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Mar 11, 2020 04:49 AM #143

Informative! ?s=21

Mar 11, 2020 11:55 AM #144

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/11/podcasts/the-daily/coronavirus-us-testing.html ↗

Mar 11, 2020 01:38 PM #145

@FarmerJayhawk said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

Informative! ?s=21

WOW, just crazy. -- They were talking and saying what's so hard is for them with this that MOST people might carry have such mild sympthoms they never realize that they even have it but yet are carries of the virus, & like has been said for the most part people will be fine BUT

The one's that have those under lying health conditions kidney diaease , lungs , low immune system , diabiates - -heart - really need to be cautious talk steps. - - heard now 30 deaths and like at 1,000 infected - -crazy

Mar 11, 2020 03:47 PM #146

@jayballer73 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@FarmerJayhawk said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

Informative! ?s=21

WOW, just crazy. -- They were talking and saying what's so hard is for them with this that MOST people might carry have such mild sympthoms they never realize that they even have it but yet are carries of the virus, & like has been said for the most part people will be fine BUT

The one's that have those under lying health conditions kidney diaease , lungs , low immune system , diabiates - -heart - really need to be cautious talk steps. - - heard now 30 deaths and like at 1,000 infected - -crazy

That's the scary part. I, as a younger person, may not exhibit symptoms, but could be carrying the virus and unknowingly infect someone that could become very sick or pass away from this illness. I'm trying to be as responsible as possible, but until we can test large amounts of people (tens of thousands per day in every state), there is no chance to truly contain this.

Mar 11, 2020 03:54 PM #147

@justanotherfan said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@FarmerJayhawk said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

Informative! ?s=21

WOW, just crazy. -- They were talking and saying what's so hard is for them with this that MOST people might carry have such mild sympthoms they never realize that they even have it but yet are carries of the virus, & like has been said for the most part people will be fine BUT

The one's that have those under lying health conditions kidney diaease , lungs , low immune system , diabiates - -heart - really need to be cautious talk steps. - - heard now 30 deaths and like at 1,000 infected - -crazy

That's the scary part. I, as a younger person, may not exhibit symptoms, but could be carrying the virus and unknowingly infect someone that could become very sick or pass away from this illness. I'm trying to be as responsible as possible, but until we can test large amounts of people (tens of thousands per day in every state), there is no chance to truly contain this.

Let me just say as an older person with some under lying conditions just how much I truly appreciate you doing what you can to prevent further spreading. I fully understand no matter how had you try may not just be enough through no fault - -of your own - - I just want to say I appreciate you making the effort my friend -- It's gonna be ok buddy what ever happens to us older then it is what it is at least you MADE the effort what more can we ask for - CDC has already said it's to late that this virus is past containment -people just have to take steps heed advice from the doctors and CDC.

Just remember this my friend - - ALWAYS ALWAYS Remember this - -at the end of the day - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY -- CRIMSON & BLUE THROUGH AND THROUGH have a great day

Mar 11, 2020 05:29 PM #148

2300 more cases in Italy in just one day.

Mar 11, 2020 06:50 PM #149

Well the WHO ( World Health Orginazation) has now declared this as a Pandemic.

Plus this is really interesting to hear/read : - already causing some up-roar from Public:
The White House has taken Un-Usual step: - - - -The White House has ordered Federal Health Officials to treat top Level Coronavirus meetings as Classified they have restricted info and hampered US Govt response.

Questions arising from this , how the how can the Govt restrict information about a public health crisis? - - -A former high level official that work for Bush in Health matters said It's not normal to classify discussions about a response to a public health crisis. - -This tells me there is a lot more there then being told/ mor e serious - -think it is going to be worse before it gets better. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Mar 11, 2020 07:25 PM #150

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

Just heard Ivy league cancelling tourney, true?

yep it's true

Mar 11, 2020 07:31 PM #151

Well turns out at the end of the day , the two cases that I told you we had in Topeka - -1st heard they were self quaranteed well today the CEO of ST Mt Vail said they now had 3 in-patients with the sympthoms of the virus such as respitory and such 2 from Topeka and one from Emporia.

They got one test back and came back negative - - still waiting on the other tow results to come back

Mar 11, 2020 07:34 PM #152

Golden State warriors going to play home games with no spectors - - - - Seattle Marines moving home games until the end of the month. - all from restrictions by gov to restrict to 1,000 fans or less

Mar 11, 2020 09:09 PM #153

NCAA tournament will be played without fans

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28885422/ncaa-says-tournament-go-fans ↗

Mar 11, 2020 10:54 PM #154

This is very well written with great charts and graphs. https://medium.com/ ↗@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca

Mar 12, 2020 12:16 AM #155

@DanR I do think u should check in, just so, u know.ā˜ ļø Check your chat

Mar 12, 2020 12:45 AM #156

I'm going 100% remote at work starting today. Social distancing is the only sure answer.

Mar 12, 2020 12:48 AM #157

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@DanR I do think u should check in, just so, u know.ā˜ ļø Check your chat

All good! Thanks for the info via the chat feature

Mar 12, 2020 01:57 AM #158

Just saw that Tom Hanks tested positive.

Mar 12, 2020 02:26 AM #159

KU students have been told no classes until the 23rd of March - -no in person class on Campus

Mar 12, 2020 02:39 AM #160

Rudy Gobert tested positive. NBA season
Suspended.

Mar 12, 2020 03:01 AM #161

This is a good sign ?s=21

Mar 12, 2020 07:29 PM #162

This is very, very bad. ?s=20

Mar 12, 2020 07:56 PM #163

@FarmerJayhawk said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

Gov. Cooper declared a state of emergency today, and UNC is likely going all-online next week after spring break. Gonna get weird.

Gov Of Kansas City declared a State of Emergency

Mar 12, 2020 08:45 PM #164

Yeah, it's highly contagious. We shouldn't be surprised, but there will always be those who dismiss.

Mar 12, 2020 11:21 PM #165

I can't even...

Mar 12, 2020 11:32 PM #166

@BShark said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

I can't even...

Not remotely shocked. There’s a culture in the WH where aides keep the worst from Trump because he would freak out and not make any decision.

Mar 12, 2020 11:48 PM #167

First fatality in Kansas, along with a state of emergency from Gov. Kelly. ?s=21

Mar 12, 2020 11:57 PM #168

@BShark nothing decent I can say!

Mar 13, 2020 12:04 AM #169

@BShark said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

I can't even...

At the time, he boasted about this.

I wish I could say his ignorance and bravado is his most dangerous trait, but that might be disrespectful to many other.

Mar 13, 2020 12:31 AM #170

Would it really surprise anyone if Trump pulled something like that?

Mar 13, 2020 12:40 AM #171

@FarmerJayhawk said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

First fatality in Kansas, along with a state of emergency from Gov. Kelly. ?s=21

Ahhh man - -not good sorry to see this, same county My daughter lives in.

Mar 13, 2020 12:58 AM #172

@jayballer73 BUNKER TIME

Mar 13, 2020 02:29 AM #173

@BShark said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 BUNKER TIME

looking like it

Mar 13, 2020 02:41 AM #174

Think any of us will get it?

Mar 13, 2020 02:48 AM #175

@Crimsonorblue22 I'm doing my best to stay clean and safe. Won't be going out much.

Mar 13, 2020 03:53 AM #176

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

Think any of us will get it?

It’s probable one of us on the board gets it. It’s remote any of us don’t get through it.

Mar 13, 2020 12:43 PM #177

Two official cases in Austin now. They got it from the Houston rodeo. School cancelled today starting spring break a day early. With the current lack of testing we have no idea how many people really have this thing right now. The barriers to getting tested are just ridiculous.

Mar 13, 2020 02:49 PM #178

@BShark said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@Crimsonorblue22 I'm doing my best to stay clean and safe. Won't be going out much.

Proud of you my friend. - -Everyone just please stay safe just be vigilant in the things/precautions we take, no reason to throw gas on a open fire by being Careless. Wash those hands - -Wash those hands - - Wash those hands -santaize I'm like you - -just pretty well sticking in the house and will continue to do so.

Just hearing on Fox forthose people in Ny where they have cases sooooo bad. The Gov there is saying he doesn't think this is a quick fix - -he thinks they are looking at a 6-7 month process there not going to happen in a month or so - -that statement for them sure makes things sound NOT so good

Mar 13, 2020 03:01 PM #179

For us here in Kansas took a hit yesterday and today. 3 NEW Cases here in Kansas yesterday all in Johnson county contacted from conference in Florida .

Today which is not good. A Doctor at Wesley Hospital confirmed their 1st case. They are doing everything to protocal which is good - - isolation , restricted visitors - -seperate entrances, The thing that concerns me here though yes the patient if confined , which is GOOD BUT the question becomes where did this one contact the virus at - -and how long did they inner act with other people in and around the Wichita area not even knowing they were infected ?

My concern here is Wichita one of our bigger cities here in Kansas if several coming in contact with individual. - -This could become one of what they are calling community type situation this would not be good because it could really spread throughout in the area. -keeping fingers crossed

Mar 13, 2020 04:53 PM #180

President Trump going to beholding news conference, going to be or expected to Announce National State of Emergency as Hospitals are expecting spike/surge in cases and patiences and trying to find space/beds

Also talking about millions of kids home from school fromvirus - -schools shutting down and putting the question out when is it time to shut ALL schools down?

My daughter having to take he step daughter to the Dr not doing well she has something - -got fever/runny nose & cough right there in Wyndotte county- - -Great

Mar 13, 2020 05:26 PM #181

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/12/politics/katie-porter-cdc-coronavirus-testing-white-board/index.html ↗

CDC chief has the right vested in law to declare that he will pay for all coronavirus tests and promised to do so when questioned about it.

Mar 13, 2020 05:28 PM #182

Bernie Sanders to talk at 3 about the crisis.

Mar 13, 2020 05:29 PM #183

@jayballer73 wishing her the best man. Scary times. Get in and get out. :crossed_fingers:

He should have declared shutting the schools down the first time around. But he's a stupid a-hole, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Mar 13, 2020 05:38 PM #184

@approxinfinity said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 wishing her the best man. Scary times. Get in and get out. :crossed_fingers:

He should have declared shutting the schools down the first time around. But he's a stupid a-hole, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

thanks appreciated just keeping fingers crossed. It's been my understanding that this really isn't effecting the kids like elderly Thing is though even though younger may not be as effected as much they can STILL be carriers.. -- So many can have such mild cases they don't even realize they have it. - -some may get tested and be so mild it can come back negative and you STILL have it crazy

Mar 13, 2020 05:40 PM #185

Trouble with schools shutting down is who is going to take care of the kids, the parents right? A lot of those parents are nurses, EMT's, and other critical personal needed during this epidemic. It is one of those damned if you do damned if you don't problems. Keeping the kids safe is my gut instinct but at the same time I worry we will be missing people we need to keep sick people alive.

Mar 13, 2020 05:48 PM #186

@FarmerJayhawk said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

Think any of us will get it?

It’s probable one of us on the board gets it. It’s remote any of us don’t get through it.

It's likely one of us already HAS it, but with mild symptoms, so we do not know. But that also means we could be contagious.

Mar 13, 2020 05:57 PM #187

Cancelling the KU Buckets meet and greet! :face_with_tears_of_joy:

Mar 13, 2020 05:57 PM #188

Crazy how this went from many people saying Ahhhh they are blowing this out of proportion to getting ready to go to a NATIONAL state of Emergency. - how this cases have just took off like a country side wild fire energized by 45 Mph winds >

My neighbor and I said before this even come close to this like 2 1/2 weks ago - -we said LOOK OUT and I told her at the time - -you watch we not even gonna have the tournament this year , SURE ENOUGH.

But you know what bottom line is as much as it sucks Life is more important , health is more important then ANY sporting advent. -Ya I am one of those in area of concern - -I certainly don't want to see any of my friends sick/or worse - believe it or not there will always be other opportunities for the Championship , you only get one chance at life. - Yes true most will make it with out things like that BUT still just the thought/that remote chance. Why would we wanna throw 10 gallons of gasoline on an open fire

Mar 14, 2020 01:59 AM #189

They just didn't need to cancel it on my birthday for heavens sakes!! :(

Mar 14, 2020 02:26 AM #190

@Kubie Happy Birthday, Kubie!

Mar 14, 2020 02:26 AM #191

šŸ’Æ happy bday!

Mar 14, 2020 02:29 AM #192

@Kubie that sucks, hopefully you got some TP for your birthday

Mar 14, 2020 02:33 AM #193

Bernie would murder Trump in a debate after this. His address today was on the money.

Mar 14, 2020 02:34 AM #194

@Kubie šŸŽ‚šŸŽ‰šŸŽšŸŽˆ

Mar 14, 2020 02:36 AM #195

@DanR did u hear Lawrence called school off til 29th?

Mar 14, 2020 02:16 PM #196

@approxinfinity said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

Bernie would murder Trump in a debate after this. His address today was on the money.

Oh buddy I needed that laugh thanks for that lmao - get ready for 4 more years of President Trump.Especially if it's that Radical Sanders what an idiot lmao

Mar 14, 2020 02:28 PM #197

@jayballer73 the important thing, in my opinion, for regular Fox viewers to consider is that the reasons behind the progressive agenda are valid.

We need to ensure the health of our citizens (see our current predicament).

Our citizens need enough wealth to be able to deal with unforseen circumstances without financial ruin (see our current predicament).

Our citizens need healthcare and time off from work that is adequate (see our current predicament).

The financial powers behind the Republican party and Fox news do not want any of these problems addressed. If you don't agree with Bernie Sanders solutions that does not make these problems go away. But notice no mention of any real solutions to these problems coming from the right.

This is the boiling point.

Consider one man who wants to do something about it and another that wants to pretend the problem doesnt exist (see Trump saying that there are 15 cases and that number is going down 3 weeks ago when this problem could have been contained) and now is showing complete incompetence in handling the issue.

Give me the guy who actually gives a shit about this country and other people.

Bernie Sanders would murder Donald Trump in a debate.

Mar 14, 2020 02:30 PM #198

@approxinfinity said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 the important thing, in my opinion, for regular Fox viewers to consider is that the reasons behind the progressive agenda are valid.

We need to ensure the health of our citizens (see our current predicament).

Our citizens need enough wealth to be able to deal with unforseen circumstances without financial ruin (see our current predicament).

Our citizens need healthcare and time off from work that is adequate (see our current predicament).

The financial powers behind the Republican party and Fox news do not want any of these problems addressed. If you don't agree with Bernie Sanders solutions that does not make these problems go away. But notice no mention of any real solutions to these problems coming from the right.

This is the boiling point.

Consider one man who wants to do something about it and another that wants to pretend the problem doesnt exist (see Trump saying that there are 15 cases and that number is going down 3 weeks ago when this problem could have been contained) and now is showing complete incompetence in handling the issue.

Give me the guy who actually gives a shit about this country and other people.

Bernie Sanders would murder Donald Trump.

Wellif you want as you say the Right man then I guess your not talking about Sanders - -so I guess you need to go and campaign for the right guy

Mar 14, 2020 02:35 PM #199

@jayballer73 actually if you agree that the issues I listed are important right now, I am arguing that these are the exact issues Bernie Sanders has been talking about and focused on for 30 years. Nobody cares more about these issues than Bernie Sanders.

Give me Sanders in the White House and a democratic house and Senate. The House and Senate will be close to Center and a lot will get done.

To clarify, my point is Bernie would murder Trump in a debate right now. In the general, I don't know. I wish people would realize that the issues raised by progressives are the real issues even if the solutions aren't as practical as they would like.

We need to strive for the right goals right now.

Mar 14, 2020 02:45 PM #200

@approxinfinity said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 actually if you agree that the issues I listed are important right now, I am arguing that these are the exact issues Bernie Sanders has been talking about and focused on for 30 years. Nobody cares more about these issues than Bernie Sanders.

Give me Sanders in the White House and a democratic house and Senate. The House and Senate will be close to Center and a lot will get done.

To clarify, my point is Bernie would murder Trump in a debate right now. In the general, I don't know. I wish people would realize that the issues raised by progressives are the real issues even if the solutions aren't as practical as they would like.

We need to strive for the right goals right now.

well if he has been on these for as you say for 30 years then just goes to show people's faith/and trust in him still hasn't won a election .Got murdered in his own state in this campaign - Sanders will never be the President to many do not have any trusting him. I am not ties to any affilation, i'm going to stop I'm not getting into Political Bs on our sports site your welcome and entitled to your values and idea's - as am I an din no way would I ever support Bernie.

I appreciate you man we have talked I' am more concerned with some other things right now worried about my own daughter and this virus. - You stay safe my friend

Mar 14, 2020 02:48 PM #201

@jayballer73 all good. You stocked up to ride this one out a while?

Mar 14, 2020 02:55 PM #202

Bernie is not a radical. He's barely left in most of the world.

Mar 14, 2020 05:21 PM #203

@BShark said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

Bernie is not a radical. He's barely left in most of the world.

He’s pretty far left in Scandinavia, the UK, and Germany for sure. Not really anywhere do they consider a wealth tax, no out of pocket health expenses, and phasing out nuclear power good ideas. Germany did the nuclear power thing and killed thousands from additional air pollution. Scandinavia used to be more like what Bernie wanted but they realized fairly quickly it’s basically impossible to pay for and growth slows to a halt. So they decided to high levels of consumption taxation, killed the wealth tax with fire, and reduced taxation on capital to very competitive levels internationally. And now they’re competitive internationally because of that and a significant oil endowment. Bernie is more like the lefties in France where public spending as % of GDP is like 60% and the labor market is so tightly regulated no businesses hire because you can’t legally fire someone without a long, drawn out legal fight. They also have a great nuclear sector, which Bernie wants to end. He’s kind of Jeremy Corbyn in a lot of ways, minus the anti-semitism (though many of Bernie’s high profile surrogates are rabid anti-semites. He’s never been able to surround himself with good people.)

Mar 14, 2020 06:42 PM #204

@approxinfinity said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 all good. You stocked up to ride this one out a while?

ya just went and got more water. - -The wife went out to Walmart today just absolutely insane - -Paper Towel , Kleenex - - Toilet paper,GONE - - water - - GONE - - BREAD - -GONE , CHIPS, JUST TOTALLY NUTS - -BIG RUN ON ALL FRESH MEATUN-BELIEVABLE

Mar 14, 2020 06:54 PM #205

Just remember we are electing the leader of the USA, not the world... I'm no Bernie fan, though this is a moment that he can seize... and he clearly sounds more sensible next to Trump... but somewhat in the same way a turd is less dangerous than a toxic waste dump.

Mar 14, 2020 07:07 PM #206

They haven't talked about the restaurant industry but it's going to get crushed. Nobody will want someone else preparing their food.

Mar 14, 2020 07:18 PM #207

Just heard a lady from Johnson co juco, in her 50's, tested positive.

Mar 14, 2020 08:36 PM #208

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

Just heard a lady from Johnson co juco, in her 50's, tested positive.

just found out a person in Franklin County tested positive

Mar 14, 2020 08:59 PM #209

Could be us in a week or two. ?s=21

Mar 14, 2020 09:15 PM #210

I'm going stir crazy, just today! Not sure I can do this!

Mar 14, 2020 09:35 PM #211

@Crimsonorblue22 we gotchu! Keep posting. I'll keep up.

Mar 14, 2020 09:44 PM #212

@approxinfinity ?s=21

Mar 14, 2020 10:27 PM #213

@Crimsonorblue22 thanks for this

Mar 14, 2020 10:48 PM #214

@approxinfinity said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@Crimsonorblue22 thanks for this

Good stuff. I had already made the decision to bunker, but man those hospital pics should do it for ANYONE SANE.

Mar 14, 2020 10:55 PM #215

@BShark the words "shortage of ventilators" are helping me stay in!ā˜ ļøā˜ ļøā˜ ļøā˜ ļø

Mar 14, 2020 11:22 PM #216

The Spanish flu pandemic of 1918, the deadliest in history, infected an estimated 500 million people worldwide—about one-third of the planet's population—and killed an estimated 20 million to 50 million victims, including some 675,000 Americans.

Good thing we all have access to healthcare and modern medicine now.......

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Mar 15, 2020 12:48 AM #217

:face_with_rolling_eyes:

Mar 15, 2020 01:54 AM #218

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@approxinfinity ?s=21

Well reading that was depressing, I'm going to bed lol

Mar 15, 2020 03:20 AM #219

It sounds like this thing is getting worse in parts of Europe. Think folks were really quick to say only old folks are at risk. ?s=21

Mar 15, 2020 03:25 AM #220

@FarmerJayhawk besides the England guy going full derp I think my favorite thing so far is the yellow jackets in France still protesting. Hard no from me to leave my house more than absolutely necessary for at least two months.

The better health one is in the better off you will be with this. I hope this is a wake up call for those that need it.

Mar 15, 2020 03:41 AM #221

@BShark and then there’s this ?s=21

Mar 15, 2020 03:43 AM #222

And this I think is not good.
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Mar 15, 2020 04:08 AM #223

@benshawks08 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@BShark and then there’s this ?s=21

To be fair a lot of GOP governors have done a good job (Charlie Baker in MA, Mike DeWine in OH, and Bill Lee in TN come to mind). I think it’s really bringing out who’s capable of doing more than campaigning.

Mar 15, 2020 04:35 AM #224

@FarmerJayhawk Yeah just reading more about the corona virus sick leave bill and feeling disappointed that dems allowed the republicans to get an exemption for employers with more than 500 employees which ends up being about half of all workers. And honestly if Super Tuesday were this coming Tuesday I think the dem result might be a little different.

It’s not really a dem v rep thing and leaders all around need to step up right now or step aside.

Mar 15, 2020 04:38 AM #225

@benshawks08 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@FarmerJayhawk Yeah just reading more about the corona virus sick leave bill and feeling disappointed that dems allowed the republicans to get an exemption for employers with more than 500 employees which ends up being about half of all workers. And honestly if Super Tuesday were this coming Tuesday I think the dem result might be a little different.

It’s not really a dem v rep thing and leaders all around need to step up right now or step aside.

Yeah, that’s what happens when they rush a bill through. Members only got 20 minutes to read it before the vote. No way to run a legislature. They’re going to re-run the bill this weekend because there were significant errors. It’s shocking, I know šŸ˜‚

Mar 15, 2020 05:50 AM #226

@benshawks08 I'd pass out in that congested mess!

Mar 15, 2020 08:07 PM #227

just following on this dam thing , and it spreading like wild fire. 272 new confirmed cases in less then 6hours. Total confirmed for the United States now is 3,324 cases with 63 deaths - 3 new deaths in this 6 hour time and a long way to go I'm afraid.

I think what is making this more some staggering to this guy is , that I'm just not used to something like this in my lifetime.

I'm just not used to seeing something of this magnitude in this Nation that I love , guess I've been lured into a false sense of security. - -Just thought our nation was to good for something like this to happen. - -Another NBA player Confirmed to have it. - -A college Basketball player has been confirmedto have it ,no name - - no school but a College player - -NOT GOOD

Mar 15, 2020 08:13 PM #228

This is why it's so important to stay home over the last few days and the next 2 weeks at least while still trying to minimize risk after that.

Mar 15, 2020 10:26 PM #229

Thankfully, some senators are trying to show that they can work together and respond quickly to public needs when there is a crisis. Maybe this will jolt more senators into a bipartisan mindset permanently.

Sadly, some "leaders" (local, state and federal) deny there is a crisis and others still want to push agendas. Hopefully, their selfish and irresponsible tweets will not be forgotten in the next election cycle.

Mar 15, 2020 10:32 PM #230

By April 1, we're all going to know someone who has it. And I don't mean like Tom Hanks or Rudy G.

Mar 15, 2020 11:12 PM #231

@bskeet not if we stay in Schrƶdingers box until then. Tests schmests amirite? Let this remain just a rich persons disease.. ahh I can't even be sarcastic, someone might take me seriously.

TRANSLATION: We only know celebrities that have it because only celebrities have tests!

Mar 15, 2020 11:19 PM #232

@approxinfinity That's a good point..

What I meant is that by April 1, the symptoms will have manifested (we won't need tests) to those who are infected as of now. The estimate is 60% of the population...

Mar 15, 2020 11:42 PM #233

Guys here is another thing that has come to mind for me on this Corona Virus. They are going to have a huge problem/headache when it comes time for containment. Here is my reason why:

Someone please tell me how can or will they have containment be able to quarantine when the /officials are dealing with ALL the homeless people on the streets and such throughout the US ?

We always want to know who these homeless have come in contact with , HELL the Homeless come in contact with EVERYBODY when their on the streets, then your going to have to find the certain homeless that may have been infected as we know they usually never stay in a certain area very long, you have to try and find when and or where individuals people picked up the infection , the typical who you came into contact with. - How can they identify when your dealing with homeless, I'm not trying to kick at the unfortunate that are o the streets but they could very well become one of the very biggest carriers

You also have to think that a large majority of the homeless probably won't even get tested/be tested. As you know also a lot of these homeless aren't actually in the best of Health causing them even more susceptible to the virus/ low immunities, this could very easily become one of the major problems in this whole scenario - -THAT scares me

Mar 15, 2020 11:49 PM #234

@jayballer73 you're absolutely right and it's an excellent point.

Mar 15, 2020 11:50 PM #235

To be clear, when officials talk about containment right now, it is not literally to stop the virus. The containment effort is to slow down the contagion and "flatten the curve" so as not to overwhelm the health care system with patients (See Italy right now).

People who get the virus will be infected indefinitely. They may recover from the virus, only to get sick again later.

Anyone who gets infected will likely need to keep their distance from the elderly and at-risk for the foreseeable future.

Sadly, I do not think the homeless population is going to be a "problem" because they are an 'at-risk' group already and are likely to succumb. Those who do survive will be a health issue, but really no more than Tom Hanks or a bus driver or basketball player or a politician who comes in contact with many other people every day.

Mar 15, 2020 11:58 PM #236

I saw a couple solicitor ladies going door to door to my neighbors houses today, standing right in the doorframe. I yelled at them "Hey, you guys shouldn't be soliciting." I got a cutesey "Oh we're not solicitiiiing" response.

I said "You're going door to door. That's the definition of soliciting. In this time of coronavirus you should be socially distancing. Its the moral thing to do."

Them : "Ok" (clearly dismissive, like I'm a wingnut)

Me : "You're like a honey bee going flower to flower infecting the whole neighborhood if you're sick"

(They talk to each other and hurriedly leave to their car)

Mar 15, 2020 11:59 PM #237

@bskeet said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

To be clear, when officials talk about containment right now, it is not literally to stop the virus. The containment effort is to slow down the contagion and "flatten the curve" so as not to overwhelm the health care system with patients (See Italy right now).

People who get the virus will be infected indefinitely. They may recover from the virus, only to get sick again later.

Anyone who gets infected will likely need to keep their distance from the elderly and at-risk for the foreseeable future.

Sadly, I do not think the homeless population is going to be a "problem" because they are an 'at-risk' group already and are likely to succumb. Those who do survive will be a health issue, but really no more than Tom Hanks or a bus driver or basketball player or a politician who comes in contact with many other people every day.

Oh I disa agree they are going to be a very large problem the % of homeless that are infected, walking the streets they will be in such close contact HUGE PROBLEM , true they succumb your right but before that happens there can be major infection - -with them being an at risk group already as you say just makes it a much more dangerous situation with them

Mar 16, 2020 01:46 AM #238

Here's a great article that uses a set of simulators to illustrate the containment strategy and explain "flattening the curve."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/ ↗

Mar 16, 2020 02:09 AM #239

https://coloradosun.com/2020/03/15/coronavirus-colorado-mountains/ ↗

Crazy

Mar 16, 2020 02:09 AM #240

@bskeet said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

Here's a great article that uses a set of simulators to illustrate the containment strategy and explain "flattening the curve."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/ ↗

It's good thing about flattening the curve - -thing is you have to have a starting point to know WHERE it is you need to flatten that curve. This is what's going to make it so much harder concerning homeless you have no idea where that curve is

Mar 16, 2020 02:19 AM #241

A total of 694 new cases of the virus in just a little over 12 hours today with 73 recoveries and 68 deaths. - these numbers are about to go off the charts when they start all these new testing Tomorrow , the number of cases is just going to explode

Mar 16, 2020 04:23 AM #242

A very important Coronavirus update:
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Mar 16, 2020 12:59 PM #243

Mar 16, 2020 07:08 PM #244

@jayballer73 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

A total of 694 new cases of the virus in just a little over 12 hours today with 73 recoveries and 68 deaths. - these numbers are about to go off the charts when they start all these new testing Tomorrow , the number of cases is just going to explode

I just hope people realize that we are about to get the full picture with widespread testing, rather than thinking that the virus has started spreading more rapidly.

We are heading for thousands of new cases on a daily basis once testing is widespread enough. To everyone on the board, try to make sure people around you don't freak out. Practice safe social distancing, so hopefully the number of serious cases (needing hospitalization and ventilators) stays manageable. We do not want to be in the situation they are in over in Italy, where they are having to make decisions about which patients need a ventilator the most, or which has the best chance to recover if using the ventilator.

Mar 16, 2020 07:25 PM #245

On a less serious note I don’t think many of you are clicking on the link I shared above and I would highly encourage you to do so for a good laugh.

Mar 16, 2020 07:28 PM #246

@benshawks08 Rex is great.

Mar 16, 2020 07:43 PM #247

@justanotherfan said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

A total of 694 new cases of the virus in just a little over 12 hours today with 73 recoveries and 68 deaths. - these numbers are about to go off the charts when they start all these new testing Tomorrow , the number of cases is just going to explode

I just hope people realize that we are about to get the full picture with widespread testing, rather than thinking that the virus has started spreading more rapidly.

We are heading for thousands of new cases on a daily basis once testing is widespread enough. To everyone on the board, try to make sure people around you don't freak out. Practice safe social distancing, so hopefully the number of serious cases (needing hospitalization and ventilators) stays manageable. We do not want to be in the situation they are in over in Italy, where they are having to make decisions about which patients need a ventilator the most, or which has the best chance to recover if using the ventilator.

now saying they don't want groups of more then 3-4 people

Mar 16, 2020 08:17 PM #248

@jayballer73 basically stay home if you can.

Mar 16, 2020 10:25 PM #249

@BShark said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 basically stay home if you can

ya I hear you bud and I appreciate you hollering. That's what I'm fully planning on doing.

Now don't hold me to this but was told and again it's hear say but yet from inside sources has family in Service and pentagon - they are talking like in about two weeks which would be right at the end of the Month they are going to announce Nation wide shut down quarinteen . -talking about people need to buy supplies NOW. - again don't hold me to this statement just was passing along but this would seem to be falling right in line with things tat are going on right now.

Today in President Trump's briefing he was talking that this could go into July or August & now not wanting people in any groups bigger then 3 or 4. - - -Obama's former head talking about that by the 23rd of March how the Hospitals would be over run.

Kind of curious here in Topeka things going down makes you wonder , they are putting up military guard stations around the VA hospital - - makes you wonder , falls in line with shut down quarinte you take care buddy. - -me myself as an older guy with Heart and kidney conditions really have to be careful. - -I believe got supplies for awhile, plenty of water just ration food if it comes to it - -THANKS for hollering bud and ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Mar 17, 2020 09:02 PM #250

https://www.kshb.com/news/coronavirus/live-blog-kc-metro-covid-19-updates-for-march-17 ↗

In Lawrence now

Mar 17, 2020 09:28 PM #251

There’s something weird going on in my town in Wyoming. Last Friday I heard, through very credible sources, that there are 6 confirmed cases that are in the hospital now. However there’s no public knowledge of this.

I was in part of the hospital Friday and over heard a practice manager and someone else higher up talk. All I heard clearly was ā€œwe got another oneā€
The other person said ā€œshit we better get in front of this and not let the press know.ā€

Why would they not want the public to know? Now this hospital is as corrupt as can be.

Mar 17, 2020 09:43 PM #252

No school in ks, rest of year!

Mar 17, 2020 09:44 PM #253

@rockchalkwyo panic?

Mar 17, 2020 09:52 PM #254

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

No school in ks, rest of year!

Know a lot of people that are NOT going to be happy about this.

Mar 17, 2020 09:54 PM #255

@Crimsonorblue22 Yeah that’s my only guess. Hopefully it’s as innocent as that. Again I know of how shady every upper management is in that place including the CEO. Sad it’s one of the 2 biggest hospitals in our state.

Any who be safe guys.

Mar 17, 2020 09:59 PM #256

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

No school in ks, rest of year!

Moving to remote learning. Hope teachers are good with Zoom.

Mar 17, 2020 10:17 PM #257

This will put a fair share strain on several Kansas families. But I do think it is the right move going forward to protect our youth. It’s gonna get hairy for several small business, which is scary because I work for a small business that employs 17 people. It will be tough for us to survive with no income business wise.

Mar 17, 2020 10:30 PM #258

Ok, were all pretty sports knowledgeable here So here is one you may not have heard yet. - - KEVIN DURANT has tested positive for the virus

Mar 17, 2020 10:35 PM #259

Things really taking off with this Virus in Kansas now. - - - Johnson County now has like 10 confirmed cases. - - - 17 presumtive positive cases here in Shawnee County and 50 others being monitered. - -Wynadotte County with I believe 5 positive cases now - - - Ford county - -Douglas County right there with ou boys, Douglas County has gotten it's 1st positive case - - -KEVIN DURANT has tested positive. - - ALL SCHOOLS DONE for the year -the entire the rest of the year.

Mar 17, 2020 10:36 PM #260

@FarmerJayhawk google classroom

Mar 17, 2020 10:46 PM #261

@BShark yeah, I know! It's kinda like the Jayhawks bb season. Right thing but it's sucks. No proms, graduations. Our bb team was probably going to be ranked #1. I feel for them. I can't imagine losing your senior yr if u r involved in activities. I know this will help me. On the other hand I have 1 son that's in a high risk medical category job. They will shut down next week except for emergencies. Just hate this.

Mar 17, 2020 11:21 PM #262

Working on the kids that depend on the free lunches, some the only decent food they get. Lots of churches and groups stepping up. Mahomes and chiefs are stepping up!ā¤ļø

Mar 21, 2020 02:03 AM #263

A guy I know has a two year old daughter with a 105 degree fever. Hoping it's not the rona.

Mar 21, 2020 02:40 AM #264

7 month old baby in South Carolina has tested positive for the Virus.

Mar 21, 2020 02:43 AM #265

@BShark that's hi

Mar 21, 2020 03:14 AM #266

We started germinating seeds today.

Mar 21, 2020 03:47 AM #267

@BShark said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

A guy I know has a two year old daughter with a 105 degree fever. Hoping it's not the rona.

I hope this kid is going to the ER despite rona concerns. I’m not a doctor but isn’t 105 burning brain cell territory? Hopefully it’s actually 100.5? My mom used to say the latter as ā€œone hundred and fiveā€ and will argue to this day that ā€œandā€ represents the .

Hope that fever comes down.

Mar 21, 2020 03:58 AM #268

@benshawks08 my youngest had febrile seizures at 1 1/2 w/that hi of temp. My husband gave him mouth to mouth. He turned purple, mouth, fingers. Was limp afterwards, scared the šŸ’© out of him. He picked up our nurse neighbor and headed to ER. I wasn't home. When we got to ER I could hear him screaming, music to a moms ears! He slept for the first time w/us, husband decision. Scared him that bad. Even though they said he was likely to have them again, he didn't. Long story.

Mar 21, 2020 01:44 PM #269

@benshawks08 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@BShark said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

A guy I know has a two year old daughter with a 105 degree fever. Hoping it's not the rona.

I hope this kid is going to the ER despite rona concerns. I’m not a doctor but isn’t 105 burning brain cell territory? Hopefully it’s actually 100.5? My mom used to say the latter as ā€œone hundred and fiveā€ and will argue to this day that ā€œandā€ represents the .

Hope that fever comes down.

I will update when I can. And yes she was brought to the ER immediately.

Mar 21, 2020 02:25 PM #270

Pneumonia, she is responding well to treatment.

Mar 21, 2020 02:49 PM #271

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

Working on the kids that depend on the free lunches, some the only decent food they get.

More than half of the elementary kids in our district depend on free meals. The schools are closed down but the district is using school busses to deliver meals. I don't know how successful it is but it is an attempt.

Mar 21, 2020 03:21 PM #272

We're doing a pickup line at 2 schools. The kid has to be present. Get a lunch and breakfast for the next day. Sounds like it's open to any kid. Maybe kids from hutch district might go.

Mar 21, 2020 03:39 PM #273

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

We're doing a pickup line at 2 schools. The kid has to be present. Get a lunch and breakfast for the next day. Sounds like it's open to any kid. Maybe kids from hutch district might go.

I just want to throw out my 2 cents for all the people helping through this crisis - -just happens to be the Corona. ANYBODY that is volunteering no matter who it is , whether it is Teachers, Aminstration , Males Females Older , Younger let me just say as an elderly/Senior citizen let me just say - - THANK - - THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH. - This is ONE guy that truly appreciates your compassion as a fellow human being , giving your time , doing what you can do to help us get through - -thank you so much - from the bottom of my heart , it makes me feel good to know that YES there are still people like yourself's that DO care. For that you have my upmost respect GOC BLESS each and everyone of you. - -So ( Crimsonorblue ) - you pitching in - Then THANK YOU my friend , makes me proud to be a friend. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Mar 21, 2020 03:45 PM #274

Dam listening to the Gov of New York. Just some stunning numbers. - -New York now accounts for 2/3 of ALL Corona virus infections across the US. - -TWO THIRDS ! ! ! !- -over 8,000 cases in New York alone.

Also the Gov also said that the dam younger people are just ignoring the facts/situation - like he says - -you CAN'T DO THAT. - Saying Oh well I can't get that - - it isn't effecting me - - - -YES , YES IT IS. and with that type of approach -you infecting your Mom , your Dad , your Grandmother , Grandfather - -any elderly - -wake up. The Gov saying that the age range individual between the age of 18-49 yrs of age IN NEW YORK this age group is making up 54% of all cases of Corona virus in New York come on people wake up - -quit being so selfish - - stupid - -not only CAN this virus hit you but it HAS - mercy come on

Mar 21, 2020 03:58 PM #275

@jayballer73 Never been happier to be rural and nowhere near NY or California.

Mar 22, 2020 12:13 AM #276

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/italy-reports-record-high-single-day-death-toll-from-coronavirus-one-day-after-previous-record-high-2020-03-21/ ↗

This is so sad. I hope this is their worst day and things turn for the better tomorrow for Italy.

Mar 22, 2020 12:18 AM #277

@approxinfinity it's going to get ugly here.

However if anyone really believes Italy has more deaths than China I've got some ocean front property in KS for sale.

Mar 22, 2020 12:25 AM #278

@BShark at your place?🤣🄓

Mar 22, 2020 12:30 AM #279

@Crimsonorblue22 yes. Ocean front property just outside Topeka. Amazing!

Mar 22, 2020 01:45 AM #280

I fear Italy's worst day so far will be one a number of countries will in the future wish they could limit their losses to.

Hate to be a downer, but that curve is going close to straight up and will for awhile until it starts to flatten out. I suspect for 12 to 18 months we will see ups and downs and wild swings as we realize that economic activity cannot stop entirely and as people get exposed in waves. I hope I am wrong, but I think people need to know the need to prepare for mre dufficulties than we could have ever imagined.

I would be more optimistic if they had a firm idea of whether anyone is immune after recovering. But with over 300,000 cases worldwide, they still do not seem to know because of the difficulty in knowing if people got ill a second time or just were declared recovered incorrectly. A vaccine depends on knowing that progression accurately.

Mar 22, 2020 01:51 AM #281

I guess the 1st case of the Virus in Riley County is a K-State professor in Journalism. - Him and students took a trip to London and felt pretty ill after his return. - His wife said he has Bi-lateral Peunomia and is on Oxygen and is not getting better. - -Mercy

Mar 22, 2020 02:06 AM #282

@mayjay said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

I fear Italy's worst day so far will be one a number of countries will in the future wish they could limit their losses to.

Hate to be a downer, but that curve is going close to straight up and will for awhile until it starts to flatten out. I suspect for 12 to 18 months we will see ups and downs and wild swings as we realize that economic activity cannot stop entirely and as people get exposed in waves. I hope I am wrong, but I think people need to know the need to prepare for mre dufficulties than we could have ever imagined.

I would be more optimistic if they had a firm idea of whether anyone is immune after recovering. But with over 300,000 cases worldwide, they still do not seem to know because of the difficulty in knowing if people got ill a second time or just were declared recovered incorrectly. A vaccine depends on knowing that progression accurately.

Yes. This won't just go away. Like every other virus it will mutate. We need this period though to reduce infection rate. This has been around for longer than we thought too. My friend's son was sick in September. Bad fever and cough for two weeks, had to get an inhaler. Drs had no real idea what to make of it but in hindsight it would seems to have been corona.

The best thing anyone can do is be clean. I got knocked on my ass by a virus in 2017 and have been a lot more serious since then. Got more active, lost weight, eating better and washing my hands a lot more. I was lazy about washing my hands but having to crawl set me straight.

Mar 22, 2020 02:43 AM #283

Interesting article about vaccines they are trying to develop.

And apparently I was quite wrong about recovered people--the article talks about trying to use the antibodies from blood of recovered people as a vaccine for others.

The Atlantic has removed its paywall for coronavirus coverage, so follow the links to many excellent stories.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/two-extreme-long-shots-could-save-us-coronavirus/608539/ ↗

Mar 22, 2020 05:39 AM #284

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Mar 22, 2020 05:44 AM #285

@BShark I do put a fair amount of blame on the Chinese government for this deal. They could’ve stopped anyone from leaving the country til it blew over. They probably wouldn’t have done anything had the doctor they likely killed not spoke up.

Mar 22, 2020 03:55 PM #286

@kjayhawks said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@BShark I do put a fair amount of blame on the Chinese government for this deal. They could’ve stopped anyone from leaving the country til it blew over. They probably wouldn’t have done anything had the doctor they likely killed not spoke up.

China is at 1000000% Agree

Mar 22, 2020 06:56 PM #287

Mercy just check the Corona virus update site. I checked it for the 1st time of the day at like 10:25 a.m. this morning and we were at 27,125 cases this morning with total deaths at 3340 - - - -just three hours latter dam thing has exploded in a three hour time span we went from 27,125 cases to - - - 38,221 cases a jump of over 11,000 cases holy cats. - -went from 3340 deaths to 396 deaths mercy.

Also looks like Louisiana getting ready to become the 4th State to going into total shutdown, getting ready to announce is what came across just now.

Also looking like well now Ohio has ordered a total shutdown of the State.

I'm telling you soon the entire nation will be mandatory total shut down. - -States really starting to pick it up 7 now. - -New York , California , New Jersey , Illinois , Louisiana , Ohio -- it's coming

Mar 22, 2020 07:03 PM #288

@jayballer73 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

Mercy just check the Corona virus update site. I checked it for the 1st time of the day at like 10:25 a.m. this morning and we were at 27,125 cases this morning with total deaths at 3340 - - - -just three hours latter dam thing has exploded in a three hour time span we went from 27,125 cases to - - - 38,221 cases a jump of over 11,000 cases holy cats. - -went from 3340 deaths to 396 deaths mercy.

Also looks like Louisiana getting ready to become the 4th State to going into total shutdown, getting ready to announce is what came across just now.

Yeah this is really bad! It's both good and bad that it is minor for some people. Good that people can survive but bad because it means people were spreading it without knowing.

Louisiana is quickly becoming triage. Folks out during Mardi gras...

Mar 22, 2020 07:05 PM #289

@BShark said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

Mercy just check the Corona virus update site. I checked it for the 1st time of the day at like 10:25 a.m. this morning and we were at 27,125 cases this morning with total deaths at 3340 - - - -just three hours latter dam thing has exploded in a three hour time span we went from 27,125 cases to - - - 38,221 cases a jump of over 11,000 cases holy cats. - -went from 3340 deaths to 396 deaths mercy.

Also looks like Louisiana getting ready to become the 4th State to going into total shutdown, getting ready to announce is what came across just now.

Yeah this is really bad! It's both good and bad that it is minor for some people. Good that people can survive but bad because it means people were spreading it without knowing.

Louisiana is quickly becoming triage. Folks out during Mardi gras...

they shut down now - - Ohio shut down , total Nation coming you watch

Mar 22, 2020 07:05 PM #290

@jayballer73 agree and it needs to be done.

Mar 22, 2020 07:07 PM #291

@BShark said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 agree and it needs to be done.

you think they have to , we have got to try and get a collar on this

Mar 22, 2020 07:11 PM #292

They just said just now. - - New York as of 10:00 a.m. this morning they are at 9,654 confirmed cases -- that is ONE THIRD of all total cases and have lost 63 people to the virus.

Mar 22, 2020 07:12 PM #293

just came across my computer while sitting here now. - - All Kansas DMV 'S will be shut done starting tomorrow for 14 days, right now looking to come back on April 6th. -- Some on line services will still be available

Mar 23, 2020 06:36 AM #294

Read this case from Kc, really sucks! Get some freaking tests!

https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article241408856.html ↗

People that have been exposed but don't have symptoms are getting tests, feel like this decent man could've had a chance! This is a šŸ’© show!

Mar 23, 2020 07:56 AM #295

@Crimsonorblue22 :loudly_crying_face: :broken_heart: awful

Mar 23, 2020 12:31 PM #296

Nigerians apparently aren't as familiar with the need to listen skeptically to wild-ass claims as most Americans are, sadly.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/23/africa/chloroquine-trump-nigeria-intl/index.html ↗

Mar 23, 2020 12:58 PM #297

@mayjay said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

Nigerians apparently aren't as familiar with the need to listen skeptically to wild-ass claims as most Americans are, sadly.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/23/africa/chloroquine-trump-nigeria-intl/index.html ↗

And this is a large part of the danger of Trump making dumb comments! More human lives lost...

Mar 25, 2020 01:52 PM #298

Glad I'm not in Mississippi!

Mar 25, 2020 02:48 PM #299

Amazing how the "but the economy!" people seem to not understand that patients in hospitals, and dead people, do not add to GDP.

Mar 25, 2020 02:52 PM #300

@mayjay The economy can recover, a bit harder to bring dead people back to life.

Mar 25, 2020 03:06 PM #301

@BShark The Dems accomplished that in Cook County in 1960, rumor says.

Mar 25, 2020 05:36 PM #302

We’re all libertarians now šŸ˜šŸ˜ ?s=21

Mar 25, 2020 10:37 PM #303

well we are up to 126 cases in Kansas now - that's up 28 cases from yesterday. We here in ( SN ) county got our first 3 confirmed cases today. 2 men and & 1 woman. - - The woman is the one of more concern , because she had no history of travel , with means the chances are increased of this being a community type thing -where the men had traveled right on the eve of our shut down yay

Mar 26, 2020 05:45 AM #304

An illustration of your points, @BShark @mayjay

!https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ET4zE5XWsAIr98S?format=png&name=small ↗ ↗

Mar 27, 2020 02:14 AM #305

Pretty sad to see that we have become the leader in the Entire world for the amount of confirmed cases with this Corona Virus - - EVEN MORE then China had.

Last count was the Us now has 83,545 confirmed cases and 1,201 deaths. - thing is the WHO say people need to be ready for more outbreaks like what is currently going on in NY.

We area long ways from this being over dammit.

Mar 27, 2020 02:26 AM #306

@jayballer73 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

Pretty sad to see that we have become the leader in the Entire world for the amount of confirmed cases with this Corona Virus - - EVEN MORE then China had.

Last count was the Us now has 83,545 confirmed cases and 1,201 deaths. - thing is the WHO say people need to be ready for more outbreaks like what is currently going on in NY.

We area long ways from this being over dammit.

Yeah, I wouldn't take the Chinese data that seriously. Chances are they had closer to a million cases than 100,000.

Mar 27, 2020 04:03 AM #307

@FarmerJayhawk Same for the U.S., though.

Mar 27, 2020 04:08 AM #308

@mayjay said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@FarmerJayhawk Same for the U.S., though.

Sort of. The US is at least trying to test everyone even though they were slow from the jump. The CCP made no effort at widespread testing, and refused to test any person who wasn’t ethnic Chinese.

Mar 27, 2020 06:10 AM #309

@FarmerJayhawk no way are they trying to test everyone. People that are exposed are told to self quarantine at home because there are not enough tests here. People that have mild symptoms are not bothering standing in long lines.

Mar 27, 2020 04:01 PM #310

@FarmerJayhawk the Chinese just have one region locked down right ? It seems we will have a pretty clear awareness soon if there is community spread because the other regions would blow up.

I'm still under the assumption it's contained.

Mar 27, 2020 04:17 PM #311

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@FarmerJayhawk no way are they trying to test everyone. People that are exposed are told to self quarantine at home because there are not enough tests here. People that have mild symptoms are not bother standing in long lines.

Certainly much more widespread testing than the Chinese, who systematically covered this whole thing up from the start. I don’t believe their numbers at all.

Mar 27, 2020 04:37 PM #312

@FarmerJayhawk Did I mention here that millions dropped their cell phone plan? mAkEs YoU tHiNk

Mar 27, 2020 05:28 PM #313

@BShark Yeah but how much of that is financial strain? Like an Uber driver might have 2 phones or if they drive lyft as well, maybe even 3. I've even read about certain drivers having multiple lines to drive up pricing somehow (don't remember how that worked). But if I'm locked down, the first thing I would do would be to drop those extra phones that aren't doing me any good anymore. Now, do I believe China's numbers are "accurate," of course not. But tbh no ones numbers are accurate as every country seems to have different criteria for getting tested. For a long time in the U.S. it was "displaying symptoms, AND known contact with someone who had tested positive." That was still the case well into March but has changed now.

Mar 27, 2020 05:46 PM #314

@benshawks08 I'm honestly not sure how China works financially with things like that.

Mar 27, 2020 06:24 PM #315

@BShark Oh me neither. I just know I saw the same report you did about the phones and then another response questioning what that really shows. Made me stop and think...

Mar 27, 2020 08:13 PM #316

China reshut all theaters today and people are getting COVID for the second time over there. It’s bad.

Mar 27, 2020 08:15 PM #317

@FarmerJayhawk oof, link?

Mar 27, 2020 08:39 PM #318

@BShark said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@FarmerJayhawk oof, link?

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/china-shuts-down-all-cinemas-again-1287040 ↗

https://t.co/Lc2QW2hiOQ?amp=1 ↗

Mar 27, 2020 09:48 PM #319

@FarmerJayhawk said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

China reshut all theaters today and people are getting COVID for the second time over there. It’s bad.

WTF - -dam

Mar 31, 2020 09:12 PM #320

Heard on the news. A 1st response commander said he had never seen 7,000 calls for EMS before in a day, he said that's more then 911 - - and he said they had been getting those amounts of call for 7 days in a row now.

I hate to be the Debbie downer here BUT, my opinion, well actually more then just me but I don't think we are any where close to getting a grip on this thing. I think this thing I think will drag out for months, - it's just mass chaos , I mean this thing is now hitting our Military really hard , I think they said there are now 675 positive cases , You have these two Cruise line ships that are loaded with positive cases , have dead people on board and begging to be able to dock and yet have not been given permission to dock - - -we have just huge numbers of field hospitals there are other things in play too but just feel like they are a long ways from getting things under control sad to say.

Mar 31, 2020 10:11 PM #321

Gov of Texas just shut down schools until May 4th. Don’t think that’ll be long enough.

Mar 31, 2020 10:42 PM #322

@benshawks08 just now?

Mar 31, 2020 11:05 PM #323

@benshawks08 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

Gov of Texas just shut down schools until May 4th. Don’t think that’ll be long enough.

Trump and his doctahzzz now projecting 100-200k deaths in the US by June.

Apr 01, 2020 03:05 AM #324

@Crimsonorblue22 Yeah we are a bit slow down here. He did it this afternoon. Technically my district had only closed until April 13th so I guess this is an improvement?

Apr 01, 2020 04:42 AM #325

@benshawks08 so you have been closed? Scared me!

Apr 01, 2020 01:34 PM #326

@Crimsonorblue22 It was all left up to individual districts here until yesterday. Some districts were still open but pretty much all the big city districts had closed.

Apr 01, 2020 03:35 PM #327

Here in SC, we are in the 20% of Americans not subject to a stay-home order. But we both have some vulnerabilities in case we get infected so we stay home anyway except for walks. Gov closed all nonessential businesses yesterday.

Apr 01, 2020 04:58 PM #328

I can't believe some states! Well I should DeSantis and Abbott! Look at Mizzou numbers. People, even in kck having church services, Louisiana too. I'm a Christian too. God blessed me w/a brain 🤣 I know u question that! I spelled brain, Brian too.

Apr 01, 2020 05:03 PM #329

Get those sailors of the Petri dish ship?

Apr 01, 2020 05:11 PM #330

I get so sick of hearing, plenty for all testing materials and then to hear right here we don't! I finally went to dr. Hassle! No fever, same ole thing for me respiratory infection, asthma, shots of steroidS, antibiotic, finally got my new inhaler. Shortage of them. my doc. Said they r telling people to self quarantine if they have fevers and symptoms.
I read, pasted
New estimates show 25% to 50% of coronavirus carriers don't even feel sick and can infect others blindly
Rant over! Be careful Jayhawks!

Apr 01, 2020 08:05 PM #331

Hoping that everyone is staying safe and healthy. I thought I would be on more, but with the transition of working from home, I haven't had the chance to get on as much. Be well everyone.

Apr 01, 2020 08:10 PM #332

@justanotherfan thanks, you too.

Apr 01, 2020 08:20 PM #333

A letter from a gal that worked at Pratt juco. Young mom, kinda long. My sister knows her.

Center
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Heather's story is shared with her permission. This is why we can not stress the Stay-At-Home order enough. Each of us has an incredible responsibility right now. Heather did all the right things! Isolation from even her own husband and children. Everything we touch, everywhere we go, everyone we interact with, affects THE PEOPLE WE LOVE. There's a good chance you could have it and not know for 2 weeks.

Heather Hopper Wilson
Yesterday at 1:48 PM
My Covid19 Story:

Let me start by saying THANK YOU so much for outpouring of love shown to me over the past couple of weeks. All the prayers, kind texts, phone calls, the encouragement, and the concern were so important to my recovery and meant more than you’ll ever know. I know several also reached out to my parents and siblings for updates and kind words, thank you to all my family and friends. I truly was overwhelmed by the outpouring.

I know there has been much speculation regarding whether my illness was Coronavirus, and this morning, eight days after being tested, my Covid19 test came back positive.

It is important to note that no one that I work with or have been in contact with is at risk of contracting the virus from me as I have not been on campus since March 11 and in a public setting since March 12. All colleagues/public are far outside of the 2-14 day window in which to show symptoms. I also want to be clear that I order my groceries and HAD NOT BEEN regularly visiting any businesses in town prior to my symptom date as I greatly limit my exposure during cold/flu season in an effort to protect myself and others.

It is unknown how I contracted this virus, I had not travelled, or been around anyone known to have symptoms, I did not have any direct contact with students in the days leading up to my symptoms either. There is speculation that a coworker that I came in contact with may have been misdiagnosed with bronchitis a couple weeks prior to my diagnosis, but this has not been confirmed, only speculation as Covid19 was not thought to be in Kansas at that time. Again only SPECULATION and this person did nothing wrong, she stayed at home for over a week and visited a doctor and received a bronchitis diagnosis, started meds and reported back to work after being on meds for an extended period of time. (She does not live in our county.) I believe this virus has been circulating long before they were tracking it, so who knows where I picked it up.

I started having symptoms the evening of March 12. I had a sore throat, I drank some tea, thinking sinus drainage, and went to bed. I started chilling late in the night and woke up with what I thought to be influenza, horrible headache, body aches, sore throat. I called the doctor the morning of Friday, March 13 to explain my symptoms and asked for some Tamiflu, they did not think Tamiflu was necessary and I was told to manage my symptoms at home. No doctor visit required. Isolation from my family begins.

Sunday, March 15, I woke up and felt pretty decent. I was able to finish my 12 page paper and final project (due that evening) for a class I was taking. That night however I started chilling and felt terrible again. Still isolated.

Tuesday, March 17, feeling no relief, extreme fatigue, sweats, headache, earache, I called the doctor and made an appointment to be seen. I was masked at my appointment and was told I had pneumonia in one lung and ear infection, prescribed antibiotics.

Friday, March 20, I’ve spent my entire Spring Break isolated from my family, I was still feeling crummy, sweats, extreme fatigue, so I called the doctor. They prescribed a steroid to help with the pneumonia.

Monday, March 23, very ill, went to another doctor for a second opinion. I was swabbed for influenza, it was negative, blood work done, chest X-ray and chest CT performed. Chest CT confirmed bilateral pneumonia consistent with Covid19. Doctor swabbed me for the virus. (It was also known at that time that another co-worker was struggling with similar symptoms.). I was prescribed albuterol to use in my nebulizer, that’s the only relief the doctor could offer. (Short supply of albuterol in the pharmacies due to the virus but I was able to get some).

Tuesday, March 24, it’s hard to breathe, contemplated going into the hospital. Instead sent my husband to buy an o2 monitor at Walmart, monitored my oxygen level at home to ensure I was above the advised threshold and started regular breathing treatments. Prayers were working and I managed my symptoms at home. Still isolated from my family.

Wednesday, March 25, decent day, oxygen level decent.

Thursday/Friday, March 26-27, exhausted, but managed to talk to the girls teachers about what to expect this week. Oxygen level holding up.

Sunday, March 29, woke up feeling more like myself than I had in MANY days. Still waiting on test results. Still isolated.

Tuesday, March 31, still feeling good, three days in a row, yea! Doctor called with test results, positive for Covid19.

Great I’ve got the diagnosis, now what? I’m good right, I’ve been isolated for 19 days, I’m far outside the ten days you’re thought to shed the virus from onset of symptoms? WRONG!!

So much has been learned about this virus since it entered the US (and things change daily) but the CDC now is recommending that once you begin feeling well, no symptoms, that you must remain isolated for ten days. If you show any symptoms within the ten days you must start back at day one.

I’m currently on Day 19 since onset of symptoms, I’m going to say Day 2 of feeling good (as I did have night sweats on Day 1 of feeling good). I will need to isolate for 8 more days with no symptoms to be in the clear and come out of isolation. At that point I will have been isolated for a month.

Please be mindful and stay home. I have missed a month with my family, my husband, my kids. My girls have cried for me outside my door, they have been fearful of something very bad happening to me, it is heartbreaking to not be able to wipe away their tears or give them hugs of consolation, this weighs heavily on my heart. However I will say that if my family can remain healthy because I did what was necessary and recommended, this isolation will be so worth it. I try to remember that these days are so few when we look at the grand scale of our life.

This road has been rough, it’s been scary, there were days my anxiety wore heavily on me. I know I made it through this because so many lifted me up in prayer and I’m so grateful. My journey is not over as I’m still recovering from my pneumonia, however I now see rainbows. Please continue to pray for me and my family. I would feel incredibly guilty and heartbroken to see them go through this knowing I was the cause. Please pray they stay healthy and that my recovery continues.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for all the thought and prayers.

My mother-in-law reminded me that today I made history, the first confirmed Covid19 case in Pratt county. I’ve said it before, but sometimes we must laugh our way through the storm.

This is my story, I thought it was important to tell so people understand how dangerous this virus is. Someone young and healthy is not immune to its fury. Do not live in fear but be smart in the choices you make when venturing out. Is the outing truly necessary?

In the coming weeks please reach out to me if you need anything. When I have fully recovered it will be my duty to shop for others as I now have a layer of immunity against this nasty bug.

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Apr 01, 2020 09:38 PM #334

@Crimsonorblue22 Thank you so much for sharing this woman's story. It's a real eye-opener. I will add her and her family to my prayer list.

Apr 01, 2020 09:53 PM #335

No dang tests

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/04/01/new-york-nurse-works-while-infected-newday-cohen-vpx.cnn ↗

Apr 02, 2020 07:13 PM #336

So here is another way of putting this whole dam COVID-19 into perspective economy wise here in Kansas at least. - - Before this virus hit, on the Average the Dept of Labor received 150,000 calls a WEEK for filing about un-employment , since the virus hit The Dept of Labor on MONDAY - took 877,000 calls in ONE DAY - - ONE FRICKEN DAY 877,000 calls for the filing of un-employment , that's just past insane.- -kind paints a really clear picture on the toll this dam thing is taking

Apr 02, 2020 08:56 PM #337

Oh no https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/netflixs-tiger-king-star-joe-21803242 ↗

Apr 02, 2020 10:52 PM #338

https://www2.ljworld.com/news/2020/apr/02/chancellor-estimates-ku-will-lose-tens-of-millions-of-dollars-from-covid-19-crisis/ ↗

Apr 03, 2020 12:15 AM #339

@Crimsonorblue22 the virus or colleges losing money? Almost everyone is losing money right now.

Apr 03, 2020 12:27 AM #340

@Ret said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 most of those calls were people calling in, hang up and call in again

not so sure about that - when your dealing with 6.6 million un-employment across the United states Doesn't really mater it was WAY up what eve the case was that's why they brought in many more to help handle all the calls

Apr 03, 2020 12:34 AM #341

@BShark exposing self

Apr 03, 2020 12:36 AM #342

@BShark wrong thread

Apr 03, 2020 01:05 AM #343

https://www.nbc12.com/2020/04/02/expert-predicts-richmond-area-hospitals-fill-up-within-weeks-peak-cases-not-expected-until-late-may/ ↗

ā€œWhat we do know is that when somebody is coughing or sneezing those respiratory droplets can stay in the air for up to three hours, said Avula. ā€œI do think it’s highly likely that both individuals going to the grocery store and employees of grocery stores will have this disease at some point.ā€

Avula says COVID-19 can stay in the air for hours which means social distancing is more important than ever especially while we people go shopping for essential items. He advises that people who need to go out, avoid shopping during peak hours."

We have hit critical mass of cases where it appears it's not a matter of if but rather when you will get the virus if you keep going to stores without a mask.

Apr 03, 2020 03:44 AM #344

@approxinfinity good luck getting an n95 mask with now.

Apr 03, 2020 05:33 AM #345

@BShark I have one

Apr 03, 2020 11:20 AM #346

@Ret said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@Ret said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 most of those calls were people calling in, hang up and call in again

not so sure about that - when your dealing with 6.6 million un-employment across the United states Doesn't really mater it was WAY up what eve the case was that's why they brought in many more to help handle all the

Please read the full article and report them accurately.

Dude REALLY, come on now, you really want to get into a pissing contest about this ? - Seiously ? - -is that how you want to spend your day. move along I have. - Going strictly what the Governor said in her news conference Thanks and have a great day not in the mood today ok? - let's just leave it at that. A -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Apr 03, 2020 03:05 PM #347

@Ret I read that too

Apr 03, 2020 11:30 PM #348

@BShark I have a couple old n95 paint masks. Anyway, we should all be making DIY masks if we don't have one. Nobody should go to the store without one

Apr 03, 2020 11:40 PM #349

@approxinfinity We haven’t left my house since last Friday besides me doing a grocery pick up wearing gloves and sanitizing the goods before house entry. I took my clothes off in the garage and went straight to the shower. My daughter has a heart condition that required surgery at 2 months. She likely dies if she catches this thing so we are being super safe.

Apr 03, 2020 11:45 PM #350

@kjayhawks good work man. I'm curious what the coverage of delivery groceries look like for others. I'm lucky to be in an area that delivers but I am not sure if the Food Lion near my parents will deliver (ours does). I'm going to look tonight. They live out in the mountains and are around 15 minutes from the nearest Food Lion.

Delivery obviously eliminates so many variables
The government should subsidize the grocery stores to deliver to everyone.

Apr 03, 2020 11:48 PM #351

Sadly I don’t have the option to stay home as of yet. Won’t bore ya with details but ā€œessential worker essential businessā€ stuff. As I have been traveling the last few weeks I have noticed a huge change in behaviors. More masks, often even worn correctly, gloves and sanitizer. Much more effort at social distancing. Easy on planes now as looking about I think there are 10 of us on this 120ish seat plane. 2 rooms sold in a 200 room hotel is kinda crazy but also gives you a chance to stay healthy because staff is cut as well.

Perhaps not everywhere and everybody but there is a behavioral shift going on. Let’s just hope it is not too little to late and those cut workers survive until they can get back to work.

Also it is damn difficult to get a decent meal on the road these days!!

Be safe people

Apr 03, 2020 11:51 PM #352

@approxinfinity We go to the next town, the town I live in doesn’t even have a grocery store. Wal Mart has the order and pay online. Then the put it in your vehicle, but we are only getting like half the stuff we order with shortages. We are hoping to have enough to last a few weeks now. But these kids snack all day lol.

Apr 04, 2020 12:06 AM #353

@Kubie thanks for the insights. As much as I'm lucky to be able to stay home and wfh in isolation with the family, I feel out of touch and value these types of observations of how it is out there.

Apr 04, 2020 12:18 AM #354

They are making it as easy as possible to get loans.

Apr 04, 2020 12:56 AM #355

Special message from the team
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Apr 04, 2020 01:46 AM #356

Here in Topeka at the Walmart's - -they have as of late this afternoon went to limiting the number of People in the store at one time, they have blocked area's where non essential buying now is not allowed.

This morning as I waited for them to open at 7 to buy my groceries it came time at about 6:45 and line started to form by the time the store opened at 7 was about 40 people standing in line - -AND YES there I was wind whipping right in our face ninety to nothing lol freezing my chones off just another in line that is taking place.

Apr 04, 2020 01:53 AM #357

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

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Sweet. -really solid by the boys, like they say guys , were ALL in this together. Please stay safe , we need you here Next year. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Apr 04, 2020 01:58 AM #358

@jayballer73 I wish I was closer to you, I would bring you food and supplies.

Apr 04, 2020 03:39 PM #359

I've yet to spot any hand sanitizer or antibacterial wipes "in the wild" since mid March...if they're currently being sold, I'm curious where people are buying them. Same deal with masks. We're all supposed to be sanitizing and wearing masks...but at least where I am, this stuff hasn't been available for weeks.

Apr 04, 2020 04:09 PM #360

@ajvan I got some sanitizer by waiting for cvs to open on a day I knew their trucks were delivering but that was back several weeks and the only reason I got some was because I stood at the door as the second person and chatted up the first, so she didn't take all the few bottles that were there.

Inother news I have heard you can easily make your own though I have not looked, from rubbing alcohol and aloe. Those may be more readily available still.

Apr 04, 2020 04:13 PM #361

@jayballer73 hey I am curious does the Walmart in topeka deliver to your house? Topeka is 66617? Its worth a shot?

https://grocery.walmart.com/?postalCode=66617 ↗

Apr 04, 2020 05:26 PM #362

@ajvan there are several places online that show you how to make simple masks, no sewing! Several people around here are making them, sewing, not mešŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø

Apr 04, 2020 05:29 PM #363

I got hand sanitizer at bath and body, scented little ones. Tiny ones. I bet I could have some one mail you a homemade mask for a reasonable price.

Apr 04, 2020 05:35 PM #364

Here are the CDC instructions for making a mask. The tshirt method requires no sewing. I believe you want tightknit cotton fabric, like a t-shirt.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/diy-cloth-face-coverings.html ↗

Apr 04, 2020 05:42 PM #365

@approxinfinity Hmm, making your own sanitizer seems like the way to go. Thanks for the suggestion.

Apr 04, 2020 05:43 PM #366

@Crimsonorblue22 Thanks, that makes sense. I bet we have some old bandanas or scarves around the house, and making a mask seems pretty doable.

Apr 04, 2020 06:26 PM #367

@ajvan We went on a walk today, about 2.5 miles. Wore bandanas just to see what it was like and how comfortable they would be. (No one else out of probably 50 pedestrians and maybe 35 drivers was wearing a mask, but this was not inside.) We were on wide residential streets and it was very breezy, with no one even as close as 10 feet away, so no issues.

Felt like bandits and we were hoping people would toss us their wallets (I had gloves available!), but alas, no one did.

Apr 04, 2020 07:15 PM #368

@jayballer73 in my experience other stores have been much less crowded than walmart.

Apr 04, 2020 07:28 PM #369

@mayjay I'm all for wearing bandanas instead of those bland white masks. Fashion is important in times like this. All the more so if people started sliding wallets over. ;) We're taking lots of walks too, mostly around our residential neighborhood with no one else in sight. The only time I think about masks, gloves, sanitization, is when I go shopping, have to handle a cart, pump gas, etc.

Apr 04, 2020 07:52 PM #370

@kjayhawks said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 I wish I was closer to you, I would bring you food and supplies.

Mercy you have no idea how much that means to me. Just shows there are still good people left in this word , that come together in times such as this. That's just awesome , thank you so much , makes my heart feel good. It's call Compassion thank you again. - It's ok we got it done w got groceries and essentials for the month , I'M DONE now for the month barricade myself in the house again for the month.

I'll tell you what scares me the most my friends , my wife is on Oxygen 24/7 , doctors have said her lungs are pretty much shot - - severe COPD & I know this is not spelled right but please my friends in times like this please don't be petty and try to be smug about grammer spelling save that for another time but anyways emphazema - so if she gets this Virus she is pretty much screwed, and what's worse is I wouldn't even be able to be with her - if she got put on a ventalitor she would have to go through this alone. - -I'm going on 66 - -SHE is 53 something happens to her I'd be lost/crushed. Soya I really worry about her.

Thank you again my friend that REALLY means a lot your a special person a special ROCK CHALK TO YOU MY FRIEND have a great day and stay safe

Apr 04, 2020 07:55 PM #371

@approxinfinity said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 hey I am curious does the Walmart in topeka deliver to your house? Topeka is 66617? Its worth a shot?

https://grocery.walmart.com/?postalCode=66617 ↗

I'm not sure buddy. - - I know you can call your order in and they will pull it. I'm really not sure as far as delivery . our zip code though is 66605 - -hate those digits you know what I'm sayin. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Apr 04, 2020 07:58 PM #372

@jayballer73 Where did you two meet, anyway? I hope things go well. We are bunkered down, too. Wife has asthma and atrial fibrillation, and I have high blood pressure and diabetes, so we are elevated risk even more than just being mid-60s. But your concern is even greater, and I wish you well in taking such care to protect your bride.

Apr 04, 2020 08:03 PM #373

Couple of interesting tidbits about the virus I heard and read about today:

1st : They did a survey and found that out of the top 25 cities in the US, - - -that more higher income families were staying home more then the lower income families. - -INTERSTING

2nd.Heard that NY had just purchased and would be receiving 1,000 ventalitors from CHINA TODAY. Just found this pretty interesting , I mean we are purchasing these things from a Country that has been said that is responsible for this in the 1st place. Just goes to show all it boils down to is a bidding war /price goucing - -situation is really sad.

3rd: Here in Kansas up 78 positive cases from yesterday, beginning to spread more quickly/more cases. We now have 698 cases UP from 620 yesterday & now have 21 deaths - -up three from yesterday. - -Hang on to your butts. gonna get worse my friends. Stay Safe

Apr 04, 2020 08:16 PM #374

@jayballer73 even if you can get them to pull it I think it's really worth it if they bring it out to your car. The biggest threat is entering the store and inhaling droplets in the air. Just keep your distance from the person bringing it out and I would open the trunk for them so they only touch the bags. I highly recommend finding an option where you can avoid entering the store. Then it's just a matter of disinfecting the food when you get home, which would still be critical. Another option is to set aside anything non perishable for a time (guidelines say 3 days on plastic. I set aside everything a week). Then you just need to disinfect perishables. Mitigating concerns about the shopper touching stuff.

Sorry if my advice here is heavy handed or preachy. Trying to help and maybe also I'm enumerating my steps to just talk about it even if we've already talked about it so much

Apr 04, 2020 08:18 PM #375

@mayjay said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 Where did you two meet, anyway? I hope things go well. We are bunkered down, too. Wife has asthma and atrial fibrillation, and I have high blood pressure and diabetes, so we are elevated risk even more than just being mid-60s. But your concern is even greater, and I wish you well in taking such care to protect your bride.

Ahh buddy , thank you soooo much. Believe it or not my wife and I met on a phone line dating site. I had like 3 minutes of time left on my account , and was just on a trial bases with the site and had 3 minute left on the trial. Pretty much had just had enough time to leave her a message with my phone number and said if she wanted to talk to me I left her my number. - About 1 hour later she called me lol.

We talked that night for quite some time. This was all totally sight un seen with one another. We talked for oh about a week. I live here in Topeka & she lived in Winfield. We talked and I said well if we really wanted to see if this was going to develop into anything we needed to meet, & I didn't have any transportation at the time & she didn't either. A buddy of mine told me he would drive me down to Winfield to pick her up , she was going to stay for the weekend. - - she NEVER went back lol , been with me every since. Going to be married 10 years this coming August, got married on my Birthday. We stay together for about a month then after our 1st month we got married lol - - Crazy I know BUT it worked. - she wanted me lmao - -I'm pretty hot lol.. - I told her from the get go I said if your a woman looking for a guy that has a lot of Money then you need TO KEEP LOOKING. I've NEVER had a lot of money - - never have - - never will. Thank you for asking my friend , sorry I got carried away telling my story.

I hear you though with her condition and me and my heart conditions with my Pace Maker and Blood pressure issues very high risk. You take care my friend , you take care of your lil lady too. Life is precious even more so with that special someone. Take care my friend

Apr 04, 2020 08:46 PM #376

Very sweet story. I met my wife face to face (at the Smithsonian in D.C.) but shockingly she still wanted to start dating!

Apr 04, 2020 10:02 PM #377

@Ret said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

Couple of interesting tidbits about the virus I heard and read about today:

1st : They did a survey and found that out of the top 25 cities in the US, - - -that more higher income families were staying home more then the lower income families. - -INTERSTING

2nd.Heard that NY had just purchased and would be receiving 1,000 ventalitors from CHINA TODAY. Just found this pretty interesting , I mean we are purchasing these things from a Country that has been said that is responsible for this in the 1st place. Just goes to show all it boils down to is a bidding war /price goucing - -situation is really sad.

3rd: Here in Kansas up 78 positive cases from yesterday, beginning to spread more quickly/more cases. We now have 698 cases UP from 620 yesterday & now have 21 deaths - -up three from yesterday. - -Hang on to your butts. gonna get worse my friends. Stay Safe

Please read or just watch the video. DONATED not purchased

https://time.com/5815687/cuomo-ventilators-china-coronavirus/ ↗

DUDE one more time, back up this is a time I patience is VERY SHORT. - Dam man bottom line is donated, purchased - - it's fricken CHINA - you don't need to tell me - -CHINA CHINA CHINA the same dam country that withheld information about this, kept it from us check your facts there buddy. - We shouldn't be doing squat with these idiots in any way shape or form.

Dealing with China in ANY WAY should not be allowed , almost as bad as 3m selling to china. - -Oh wait that's not right either right? - - I'm sure you will feel the urge to try and correct me on this too huh? - - Good looking out , way to step up, thank you so much - -Dam people like you wear me out.

Apr 04, 2020 10:14 PM #378

@jayballer73 If we are not going to deal with idiots, who is left? šŸ¤”

Apr 05, 2020 01:25 AM #379

@mayjay said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 If we are not going to deal with idiots, who is left? šŸ¤”

That's true.

Apr 05, 2020 01:39 AM #380

@jayballer73 I don't have a problem with taking something from China. The donation came from Jack Ma and the owner of the Nets. Why would we not accept a private donation of ventillators? Good on them to make it happen.

The problem is that we even NEEDED someone to donate them. We weren't prepared. We should not be dependant internationally for ventillators.

Apr 05, 2020 02:02 AM #381

@approxinfinity said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 I don't have a problem with taking something from China. The donation came from Jack Ma and the owner of the Nets. Why would we not accept a private donation of ventillators? Good on them to make it happen.

The problem is that we even NEEDED someone to donate them. We weren't prepared. We should not be dependant internationally for ventillators.

Well, then you run into this problem of how much excess of any medical supply do we need to be prepared for a situation. Because normally I would have to think a large number of ventilators aren't even being used. So how do you justify the cost of making a bunch more that won't be used (before covid). Do you then do this for all medical equipment? Idk.

In general we were ill-prepared for a viral pandemic despite epidemiologists harping on this for awhile now.

Apr 05, 2020 02:14 AM #382

@BShark I wonder to what extent we can be more prepared to pivot and produce ventillators for future pandemic preparedness. So we wouldnt need a huge stockpile so much as a larger stockpile as well as companies be able to switch production to ventillators quickly. We could make medical supply producers have the capacity to switch over and have a coordinated plan for production, distribution, and assembly of components all locally.

Apr 06, 2020 05:56 PM #383

Not a good day ( Sunday ) here in Kansas for the virus. Just came out the count went up from 747 to 845. - -Here in Shawnee Co . had 7 new cases - -looking towards better day.

Another sad note , came across my notifications that a new born baby in Louisiana passes away with the virus, as her mom had tested positive - -just sad.

Apr 06, 2020 07:03 PM #384

Really good read on this https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/george-bush-2005-wait-pandemic-late-prepare/story?id=69979013 ↗

Apr 06, 2020 07:19 PM #385

Woah, Boris Johnson in icu. Think that will convince trump to wear a mask?

Apr 06, 2020 07:36 PM #386

@Crimsonorblue22 no. That idiot just needs some chloraquine. Duh. Common sense.

Apr 06, 2020 07:46 PM #387

@FarmerJayhawk good read.

Apr 06, 2020 08:09 PM #388

Dam Prime minister of the UK is in ICU only 55 years old went down hill fast

Apr 06, 2020 08:57 PM #389

@jayballer73 Very scary since the announcement yesterday was carefully worded as just for tests.

Apr 06, 2020 11:52 PM #390

@mayjay said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 Very scary since the announcement yesterday was carefully worded as just for tests.

ya it is. - - and sounds like he isn't that far off from a ventilator . - -The said the thing with the Prime minister is that the fever, saying normally the fever doesn't persist but with him that was his major problem.

Apr 07, 2020 03:35 AM #391

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Well guys you talk about being snake bit , now not saying for sure but just found out. My daughter, the one I told you about that had the surgery for the cyst - - - Well she just called and kind of afraid she might have the Virus. Not wanting to over react for sure BUT she went to the doctor for other reasons and she just about didn't get to see the doctor.

Come to find out she is showing ALL the classic signs they have been talking about the accompanies the COVID-19. - - She has fever ( all be it - - low grade ) shorthness of breath at different times , has the cough - -& the issues with the nose. - - DAMMIT. we don't know for sure , but man sure sounds like the classic sympthoms .

I told her well about all you can do right now is self quarantine for the 2 weeks , keep a super close eye on this - -if it persists and gets worse then CALL the doctor. - She says dad I don't have any medicine , I told her Call the doctor and they will tell you exactly what to do.

The only thing that scares me with this is because she lives in Wyandotte which is one of the bigger hot spots here in Kansas for it. She is just off surgery not that far removed and as we know when that happens your immune system is lower easier to catch things , I told her not to mess around with this - -if it get's any worse she needs to call the DR right then and there.

On top of that I will say IF and again IF this is what it turns out to be well - - then her boyfriend , and my 5 grandkids that are there are ALL quite possibly infected with it also - -DAM - when it rains - - it pours.

Apr 07, 2020 09:09 PM #393

@jayballer73 Your poor daughter, after going through the surgery!

Various ailments, including COVID-19, seem to affect so many people differently. Our Marine son at Miramar has been quarantined at his off-base apartment for 3 weeks with all the symptoms (fever, aches, shortness of breath, sharp burning chest pain with a dry cough) but tested negative. He is now feeling better, and going back to work. Flu? Negative for that, too. I wonder if the test was bad?

Good luck!

Apr 07, 2020 09:18 PM #394

@mayjay said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 Your poor daughter, after going through the surgery!

Various ailments, including COVID-19, seem to affect so many people differently. Our Marine son at Miramar has been quarantined at his off-base apartment for 3 weeks with all the symptoms (fever, aches, shortness of breath, sharp burning chest pain with a dry cough) but tested negative. He is now feeling better, and going back to work. Flu? Negative for that, too. I wonder if the test was bad?

Good luck!

Thanks , current times are just a mess

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Apr 08, 2020 10:23 PM #396

Well crap and here we go. Governor Kelly and The Attorney general & Legislative counsel are now going at it. - - Attorney General Schmidt has revoked Governor Kelly's latest about restricting Church's with amount of people, saying he thinks it breaks the constitutional rights of freedom of religion. Governor Kelly already has her legal Council checking to see how they can handle , saying it may go to Court a possibility

Governor Kelly saying now is not the time for this to become a political event and that was very underhanded and now with Yesterday being our worst day by far as we are now at 1,046 cases - -pretty big jump and the most deaths e had an increase of 11 deaths yesterday -which makes it a 40 % increase. - about to get ugly

KDHE Secetary of Health Dr Norman was very disappointed in todays actions by the attorney General and the Legislative Counsel, Kelly saying they are checking and her and the KDHE is afraid that this today will revoked the earlier they put in effect of the " Stay at Home " also. Dr Norman says he is afraid that todays actions will wipe out everything that they have tried to accomplish by instituting the stay at home. - -If people ignore the stay at home now it that turns out to be the case , then he said you are looking at a lot more positive cases and a lot more deaths.

This is the LAST thing we need in our State - - now is not the time to turn this into a political thing.

One other side note -- I mentioned last week the Dept of Labor had sad that in ONE day they had received a record number of calls for filing of un-employment 877,000 - -WELL that number was Shattered. - Governor Kelly said that they had received in ONE DAY 1.6 Million calls - just crazy - - let's get through this guys/gals - May GOD be with each and every one.

Apr 08, 2020 11:44 PM #397

This whole thing is getting very stupid, cancel churches, school, restaurants and work. Me driving by Walmart seeing the parking lot full And probably at a minimum 500 people. Turn on news, hundreds, possibly thousands waiting in line for unemployment. The church’s are a bare minimum of concern at this point. Wal Mart needs to close its doors and only do pick up orders. I have a family member that’s a Wal Mart manager and thinks this is very doable. They could put all hands on deck and add more times. Greed is the only reason not to, Wal Mart made a $150 billion last year and the guy says it’s been like Black Friday for a month straight.

Apr 08, 2020 11:52 PM #398

Our Walmart at lowly hutch only lets a few in and only 1 in an aisle at a Time. You wait outside till one comes out. All aisles are marked, and checkouts too. Plexiglass installed. Only 1 door too. Dillons same thing.

Apr 08, 2020 11:59 PM #399

@Crimsonorblue22 Same thing here, one door open (which is stupid because it means there is a traffic jam at one). I’m not sure what they are doing with the isles but it defeats the purpose of someone sick goes and breathes all down that isle. I didn’t go in and won’t til this clears up. To me we need to start mass closures, 50 people at church are less likely to spread stuff than 10s of thousands at Walmart. I’m sure just about all Walmart’s are doing the same thing being a corporation.

Apr 09, 2020 12:13 AM #400

@kjayhawks Our governor issued an order to not allow more than 5 people per 1,000 sq ft. Walmart has been doing it. People say it is wonderful.

Apr 09, 2020 12:23 AM #401

@mayjay maybe they are, I’m just saying the parking lot was full. That’s about all I could see, pictures all over Facebook of hundreds waiting in at stores. I’m just saying logically and statically it’s not smart to have a ton of people filing in and out all day when they are saying this stuff can live on items for days at time.

Apr 09, 2020 12:25 AM #402

@kjayhawks nobody can go in and out at the same time. No passing

Apr 09, 2020 12:26 AM #403

@mayjay yep

Apr 09, 2020 12:28 AM #404

Several cases in Kansas have been at a church in kck!

Apr 09, 2020 12:28 AM #405

@Crimsonorblue22 that’s good but I still think pick only would be safer. If hundreds or thousands are coming and going, all it takes it a couple of infected folks to touch or cough on stuff and you have thousands infected.

Apr 09, 2020 12:30 AM #406

@Crimsonorblue22 I’m in agreement that we shouldnt have church but while I’m just out driving around I see tons cars at certain places. I think that’s bad from how contagious this stuff is.

Apr 09, 2020 12:34 AM #407

@kjayhawks said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

This whole thing is getting very stupid, cancel churches, school, restaurants and work. Me driving by Walmart seeing the parking lot full And probably at a minimum 500 people. Turn on news, hundreds, possibly thousands waiting in line for unemployment. The church’s are a bare minimum of concern at this point. Wal Mart needs to close its doors and only do pick up orders. I have a family member that’s a Wal Mart manager and thinks this is very doable. They could put all hands on deck and add more times. Greed is the only reason not to, Wal Mart made a $150 billion last year and the guy says it’s been like Black Friday for a month straight.

I like your thoughts here, I've been thinking down these lines...this whole thing has really shown us where our inefficiencies lie in times of crisis.

The big problem I think with closing down the stores completely is the lack of transparency of what stock is left at the stores in real time. The big stores should be able to do this fairly easily for future preparation.

Without clear visibility into what stock is left, when the store has major shortages, everything breaks down and the person feels like they have to go into the store to find what they need.

I'm not shopping at Walmart right now, so I don't know if their system is good enough to be accurate in real time. I know other stores' systems are not.

Apr 09, 2020 12:43 AM #408

@approxinfinity Right and I’m not saying I have all the answers. But I think it’s safe to say, a large number of people at one place in one day could be bad potentially.

Apr 09, 2020 12:55 AM #409

@kjayhawks yeah man :hundred_points: we're on the same page. they should really figure distribution out so we can get rid of blockers so we can handle something like this much much better going forward.

I read yesterday that farms are dumping hundreds of thousands of gallons of milk because they were so dependent on the restaurant industry. There should be a plan for diverting perishable food goods that would go to the restaurant industry, and also a plan for redundancy of distribution chains if certain areas are affected more heavily by disaster.

We need serious consideration and planning by many smart people to get this figured out and maintained so that all of the big players in food have a cohesive disaster relief plan.

Apr 09, 2020 03:04 PM #410

Braving the Topeka badlands today. Walmart actually had Puffs Ultra tissue in stock.

Apr 09, 2020 03:05 PM #411

Aldi is wiping down carts when they come back.

Apr 14, 2020 03:21 PM #412

Well DAMMIT. , this is pretty frustrating just heard this off fox news radio at 9:00 this morning. This dam stuff is re-cycling in the Asia Countries right now.

In Toyoko , they said the positive cases of the Corona is going up - - -AGAIN. - -and that people who have had the Corona virus and recovered from it are GETING IT AGAIN.

We have just got to get this vaccine or SOMETHING to stop this. - This Country can not go this this year after year it will crush this country.

Apr 14, 2020 04:17 PM #413

The big thing will be when we get a vaccine, and how treatments advance. We had neither this year and got crushed. If the medical community can find workable treatments in the short-term, and an effective vaccine in the long term, we can go back to something resembling life as normal.

We will likely have to find new ways to disinfect surfaces to prevent casual spread of germs, but if we can do that, we may be able to slow not just COVID-19, but simpler things like the common cold and the seasonal flu. Long term, that would be an excellent outcome.

The key is learning from this whole experience. What worked, what did not. How can we be better prepared - not just stockpiling resources, but the ability to pivot production from one thing to another quickly. The ability to do things remotely. More widespread (and consistent) internet access.

If we learn, we can come out of this better. If not, we will stagnate and the next time will be far worse.

Apr 15, 2020 12:38 AM #414

@jayballer73 do you have a corroborating source that is real news? All I'm finding is one instance of reinfection from Feb 27th. I'm assuming Fox might be drudging up old news (like 1 person it happened to two months ago) and sensationalizing it in order to diffuse the backlash Trump is currently catching for his month of doing nothing and now his latest off the cuff train wreck of a press conference last night.

Apr 15, 2020 12:49 AM #415

@approxinfinity said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 do you have a corroborating source that is real news? All I'm finding is one instance of reinfection from Feb 27th. I'm assuming Fox might be drudging up old news (like 1 person it happened to two months ago) and sensationalizing it in order to diffuse the backlash Trump is currently catching for his month of doing nothing and now his latest off the cuff train wreck of a press conference last night.

Dude All I can do is what's out there by the National media. - - I know you got a hard on for Trump but come on man, The Corroborating source is FOX. - You don't like Fox? - that's easy to tell. - -WHY don't you like Fox - -I can answer that , because they Side with Trump.

All Media is trash - - just like CNN and the ones that you love that love to bash Trump - -This National media ( Fox ) sides with Trump so people like yourself can't stand that so they are no good. - - CNN bashes Trump so you love them and find them solid - -while others can't stand CNN - it's one vicious circle. - -I'm simply passing along what I had heard that's it period.

But just so you know I've heard the same from WHO which is at odds with Trump so you ought to love them and THEY have said the same that in the Asian countries that the virus is re-cycling. You would have had to have your head buried deep in the sand not to have heard that. - This is even beyond yesterdays news. It's been mentioned by multiple sources before Fox come on ease up there buddy. Just because Fox agrees with Trump doesn't mean everything they report is bogus. - -Thought you were a little better then that man. And look I'm not doing this again going back and forth back and forth. - - You stated your opinion and been heard - - I gave you my rebuttal now I'm done - - As far as I'm concerned ALL media is trash, again just simply passing on what is out there. - -Now if you think it's all BS - - -good for you, the one way to find out is sit back and see what happens next fall

Apr 15, 2020 01:23 AM #416

@jayballer73 all I care about is facts. So if this is legit news, there should be quantifiable facts. How many people have been reinfected and when? You honestly think Fox News wouldn't drudge old stories and overblow them to help Trump look good and distract from his idiotic missteps? They do it all day every day. Standard playbook Fox. This isn't a crazy assumption on my part. It should be our assumption of what is going on here unless there are corroborating stories. Seriously, we should never assume Fox to be valid without corroborating stories. In this case, by "corroborating stories", I mean something that shows this to be a serious threat and not one instance of reinfection that happened 2 months ago. Maybe it's happening and maybe it's a greater problem, but I'm not finding it. So. We should!

Apr 15, 2020 01:32 AM #417

@approxinfinity @jayballer73 I posted this in another thread a couple weeks ago, but it puts some meat on the bones https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/27/822407626/mystery-in-wuhan-recovered-coronavirus-patients-test-negative-then-positive ↗

Apr 15, 2020 01:44 AM #418

@FarmerJayhawk thanks. Yeah I skimmed it the first time you posted, reread it now.

So in this story, the who/when/where/why was...:
- on March 27th,

  • 4 people were reported to have been reinfected

  • in Wuhan (so harder to get straight answers)

  • and questions remain as to whether it could be explained by there being a possible false negative in between the 2 positive results, and questions whether they are infectious when testing positive the second time. In the case of the latter theory, I guess then maybe they just have antibodies present that cause a positive result?

@jayballer73 to your point, it's something we should keep an eye on, for sure. And it's scary. But I'm hoping the testing just needs to be improved.

Still stuff like this, in addition to something I read yesterday that asymptomatic people are showing heart and liver (I think, though it might have been kidney) damage from COVID.... This also needs further evidence, but it's the kind of scary crap that makes me want to never get this even if I could get it and recover. Not worth it until we have answers.

Apr 15, 2020 02:25 AM #419

@approxinfinity said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 all I care about is facts. So if this is legit news, there should be quantifiable facts. How many people have been reinfected and when? You honestly think Fox News wouldn't drudge old stories and overblow them to help Trump look good and distract from his idiotic missteps? They do it all day every day. Standard playbook Fox. This isn't a crazy assumption on my part. It should be our assumption of what is going on here unless there are corroborating stories. Seriously, we should never assume Fox to be valid without corroborating stories. And this case, by "corroborating stories", I mean something that shows this to be a serious threat and not one instance of reinfection that happened 2 months ago. Maybe it's happening and maybe it's a greater problem, but I'm not finding it. So. We should!

ok look I'm tired about going back and forth really buddy, you like to call out Fox - -I'm telling you EVERY FRICKEN STATION drudges up old bullshit to promote Trump -- Biden - - - Sanders who ever the hell they back.- - not only on Presidents ALL NATIONAL Media is going to do whatever they need to do to pat theirselves on the back - -things they think will draw good ratings for them.

I'm so sick of hearing Trump - - Trump - - trump - and I'm not even THAT huge of fan of his the one thing I do know is that Trump has not put this Nation in the Shape is in today - -This country has been so screwed up for a long time now from PREVIOUS presidents, or as you would like to hear it's been screwed up LONG before Trump took office. The situation we are in didn't get screwed up in a single term -it sure the hell isn't going to be that perfect Nation that so many seem to be looking for in a Single term.

You can talk till your blue in the face and I'll say your talking bullshit if you try and tell me the reason this Nation is in the shape it's in only because of Trump that is just TOTALLY ILLOGICIAL BULLSHIT. maybe in your eyes he has damaged this country - -great your entitled to that , but dam I know your smarter then that to think it's all him -- Obama - and many others before have ALL had a hand in this

Apr 15, 2020 02:39 AM #420

@jayballer73 this one was on you. You brought up a fact raised on Fox. Therefore that's what we were talking about. The validity of a fact on Fox. Not a fact on CNN. Not about Biden. Come on man. This whole "everything is bullshit from everyone!!!" line is thrown around a lot these days to completely scramble logical process. It simply does not matter at all here. Let's stick with what we were talking about.

We are talking about a fact you brought up that you heard from Fox. If you know Fox spins for Trump, this makes it of utmost importance for you to verify information you receive from them in regards to a crisis in which Trump is front and center. Whatever about Biden or CNN, etx in no way changes the fact that you should verify your source, knowing that it's spin.

@FarmerJayhawk gave me a corroborating story, which was helpful, but that story didn't have too much more meat it in it either.

You need to not get hung up on defending Trump or Fox. I'm allowed to challenge the effectiveness of Trump or the validity of news on Fox without it having to be a fullstop drop everything and throw out "but the other guy does it" stuff. Questioning is part of the process to understand things better.

Stay with me man, I've already moved past it in the next post.

And if I ever quote something that I can't verify, and I fail to mention that it's not verifiable, please call me out. I want that kind of feedback. It makes our understanding better.

Apr 15, 2020 02:45 AM #421

@approxinfinity said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 this one was on you. I brought up a fact raised on Fox. Therefore that's what we were talking about. The validity of a fact on Fox. Not a fact on CNN. Not about Biden. Come on man. This whole "everything is bullshit from everyone!!!" line is thrown around a lot these days to completely scramble logical process. It simply does not matter at all here. Let's stick with what we were talking about.

We are talking about a fact you brought up that you heard from Fox. If you know Fox spins for Trump, this makes it of utmost importance for you to verify information you receive from them in regards to a crisis in which Trump is front and center. Whatever about Biden or CNN, etx in no way changes the fact that you should verify your source, knowing that it's spin.

@FarmerJayhawk gave me a corroborating story, which was helpful, but that story didn't have too much more meat it in it either.

You need to not get hung up on defending Trump or Fox. I'm allowed to challenge the effectiveness of Trump or the validity of news on Fox without it having to be a fullstop drop everything and throw out "but the other guy does it!!!" Stuff. Stay with me man, I've already moved past it in the next post.

I'm done - - now on a side note and yet about the virus, just read off WIBW news that our local hospital St Mt Vail - - KDHE has announced it as a Corona Cluster. They have 13 employess now who had tested positive for the virus. -- A doctor , some nurses , others were from the emergency dept and the others were from post anathesia people - - THAT'S not good. - -also the CEO of the hospital said Monday they had 150 employees on Self quarantine - -today was 105, mercy having this in the hospital is kind of scary. - My niece is there right now recovering from blood clots in her leg and both lungs - -hoping for the best so she doesn't get it.

Apr 15, 2020 02:48 AM #422

@jayballer73 that's scary. Can you get her out/transfered? She sounds high risk with lung issues.

Apr 15, 2020 02:55 AM #423

@approxinfinity said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73 that's scary. Can you get her out/transfered? She sounds high risk with lung issues.

well she is hoping she can go home tomorrow, they have been giving her thinner to dissolve them, as you know with clots you just worry about them moving. - she has one in her leg and one in each lung, your right kind of scary

Apr 15, 2020 07:21 PM #424

Governor Kelly has extended the stay at home order until the 3rd of May. Was suppose to run out on the 19th I think she said

Apr 23, 2020 01:02 AM #425

welp , just wonderful today. I swear sometimes you've head the phrase , if it wasn't for bad luck I wouldn't have any luck ?

So , my Nephew comes over to my house this afternoon , he works for KDHE he promptly tells me that they sent all employees home for the day because someone in a State agency had tested positive for the Corona virus. He said they were bringing in a crew to do through sanitizing . I Said so WHY ARE YOU HERE ? - -he said it wasn't his agency & they wouldn't tell them what agency it was, and they were supposed to call tomorrow to find out what time they was suppose to come back tomorrow or IF they were suppose to come back.

Soo since then have found out that the person that has tested positive for the Corona WAS from his agency out at Forbes. - - - GREAT.

So my wife and I could of very well could of been exposed to the virus this afternoon. So I called my Doctor on Call this evening and she said that my wife and I both should self quarantine and I have to call KDHE in the morning to see if I need to do anything , as we both have under lying health conditions as most of you know.

Now this could very easily be nothing , I mean we ALL just found this out this afternoon, of course there would be no way if he knows he has anything as HE just found this out too, and have heard it can take 5-6 days before showing any symptoms, and on top of that a lot of cases are so mild a person never even knows they have it but yet they can be a carrier and expose others.

I really think at this minute they will probably just say self quarantine cause we are obviously not showing anything yet, and probably just tell us to be aware of any possible symptoms . The fever - - shortness of breath - - Cough -- body aches. - It just really worries me about the wife. IF she were to catch it, it would not be good with her lungs about shot and severe COPD, they have already told her if that happened it would more likely then not automatic Ventilator.

Will know more in the morning my friends , please keep your fingers crossed for us , and if your inclined please throw in that extra prayer for my wife and myself would ya please. And as always - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Apr 23, 2020 03:04 AM #426

@jayballer73

According to KDHE, one staffer worked at the Forbes campus in Topeka, but has not been at work since April 15th.

The second staffer was from a field office in Ford County.

Both offices were closed Wednesday afternoon ā€œout of an abundance of cautionā€ so the facilities could be cleaned. They did not say how long those offices will be closed.

Apr 23, 2020 03:22 AM #427

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

@jayballer73

According to KDHE, one staffer worked at the Forbes campus in Topeka, but has not been at work since April 15th.

The second staffer was from a field office in Ford County.

Both offices were closed Wednesday afternoon ā€œout of an abundance of cautionā€ so the facilities could be cleaned. They did not say how long those offices will be closed.

ya I know , and my Nephew works with that person at Forbes same office. so who knows we know that my Nephew was at least exposed to the virus from this person, whether he is a carrier or not who knows.

Takes like 6 days for incubation period, but my Nephew was working with the person before the 15th of April which means he would of been exposed. - -The doctor I talked to tonight said for sure to call KDHE and see what else if any to do.

I'm sure at this point they will just say to self quarantine, for one there is a shortage of test kits right now they are not going to test everyone - - unless we start showing symptoms then they might test

Apr 23, 2020 10:09 AM #428

Confirmed case at my work. Still open since the person was asymptomatic when tested and confirmed to have it. Let's just say panic has set in. We already have dozens of safety protocols in place so unless the entire plant is going on quarantine I don't know what else they can do to protect us at this point. People are not happy and many working here are of moderate to high risk. Will be interesting to see what happens

Apr 23, 2020 05:35 PM #429

Update: Several people who had contact with the confirmed case have been quarantined and are being tested. One tested negative and has returned to work. Many are frustrated about transparency. The CDC deemed it low risk so immediate closure of the plant was not recommended. That is until all that had contact are tested and the results are in. Lots of frustrated people here. Anxiety is high.

Apr 23, 2020 05:40 PM #430

Yeah, how do they deem the risk low or high without the tests... That's a weird recommendation.

Seems like with this the wiser choice would be to err on the side of caution until there is evidence that less caution is validated.

Apr 23, 2020 05:52 PM #431

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Apr 23, 2020 06:12 PM #432

As testing has ramped up here in Kansas this week, we have seen confirmed cases jump quickly. I had felt for a while that we were only scratching the surface of how widely spread the virus was. Now we are seeing a bit more of the iceberg.

Apr 23, 2020 06:22 PM #433

@justanotherfan said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

As testing has ramped up here in Kansas this week, we have seen confirmed cases jump quickly. I had felt for a while that we were only scratching the surface of how widely spread the virus was. Now we are seeing a bit more of the iceberg.

Yep, as of yesterday Kansas was 50th in the country in testing rate. That's last if we're scoring at home.

Apr 23, 2020 10:44 PM #434

@justanotherfan said in Coronavirus Thread: Boy, guys. I really just don't know. Best to keep tabs.:

As testing has ramped up here in Kansas this week, we have seen confirmed cases jump quickly. I had felt for a while that we were only scratching the surface of how widely spread the virus was. Now we are seeing a bit more of the iceberg.

for sure 182 ne cases day before yesterday - - and now 271 new cases yesterday. KDHE has said they now think we will see a pretty big jump from Western Kansas counties. We have already passed initial predictions for the state initially they KDHE had said we would probably hit about 2,000 cases well- - - -

May 14, 2020 06:59 PM #435

Anybody watch Dr Bright, our very own, Hutchinson Kansas product?