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I moved this from another thread... just too important...

Let’s get a vote on what we think will happen:

1. The NCAA Tournament will continue as usual but with a few adjustments, like hand sanitizers at every gate. Maybe require masks.

2. The NCAA Tournament will continue but without an audience.

3. The NCAA Tournament will be cancelled all together.

Let's face it.... our country was caught off guard. We didn't take the threat serious after facing two other versions of coronavirus; MERS and SARS.

But lets move forward and say, "it is what it is."

And what it is... is a death threat to the elderly and those with a compromised immune system.

We don't feel like hanging up the season without a conclusion. And neither does any other fan, coach, player, school or the NCAA.

If you examine the last 48 hours you will find that events are being cancelled almost across the board.

Can we find a safe compromise?

I would like your ideas on how we can make March Madness happen while protecting the safety of all.

Fans:

1. Fans are temperature screened before entering the arena. A specific temperature will disqualify fans from entering.

2. Fans are required to wear a mask. If they didn't bring one, one will be provided at the gate, perhaps for a fee.

3. All fans get a healthy splash of sanitizer as they enter the arena. They are also given a small bottle of sanitizer to take with them to their seat.

4. Extra personnel are on hand to walk around and keep sanitizing commonly touched areas during the game.

5. Public address will run constant messages before every game and at half time and after conclusion on safety policies.

Teams:

1. Coaches and players will be tested before games. They will also be screened for temperature right before games.

2. Coaches and bench players wear a mask.

3. Hand sanitizer is in constant use on the bench as players enter and exit the game.

4. Players and coaches are instructed on safety protocols prior to the game.

Arena Personnel:

Follows the same protocol as teams.

This virus may diminish soon, especially as warmer weather comes, but it is here and it is likely to be here to stay. Excellent chance we will face this same situation after the summer. We will have to learn to adjust our lifestyles while still living them!

Why not make March Madness the experimental public event?

I bet many of you have ideas to add into this!

Or - people could wash their hands, cough/sneeze into their elbows, not freak out - and watch KU win another National Championship.

@nuleafjhawk

Unfortunately... coughing into your elbow is not a perfect solution.

Personally, I have no fear of this virus bothering me. But I do fear it bothering my 87 yr old dad and others!

I always have a fever when watching KU basketball! I'm serious. My adrenaline kicks in and I'm a sweaty mess!

BTW: Doke actually looks more menacing with the mask!

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/columnist/dan-wolken/2020/03/10/coronavirus-ncaa-needs-pull-plug-risky-basketball-tournament/5016117002/ ↗

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/10/us/march-madness-coronavirus-spt-trnd/index.html ↗

Bye fans! - https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/scrutiny-intensifies-on-ncaa-tournament-coronavirus-plan-as-two-leagues-keep-out-fans/2020/03/10/220e3d5c-630f-11ea-acca-80c22bbee96f_story.html ↗

https://www.nj.com/sports/2020/03/coronavirus-update-ncaa-tournament-ready-to-close-march-madness-games-to-fans.html ↗

https://www.si.com/college/2020/03/10/coronavirus-impact-ncaa-conference-tournament-march-madness ↗

Not exactly offering much info - http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news ↗

I have a follow-up. Would you rather the tournament be canceled and KU be crowned champ since they’re the unanimous #1 or play it out, knowing there’s less than a 50% chance we cut down the nets in Atlanta?

@drgnslayr I hear you, I'm worried about my parents as well. Do I think that this could be our year? Damn right I do, and would like for them win it all - but not at the expense of our country.

If it spreads much more (already even in BFE Kansas) they might have to cancel. The dance is a nationwide event, and the dumb fucks - yeah, I said it - just won't fucking stay at home (and I'm not talking about the elderly, who are paying a dear price). Imagination how many people could be infected, not just at the games but afterwards.

@drgnslayr With all due respect to your father (my dad is 84, I get where you're coming from) they're probably much more likely to be exposed to the flu. We're not screening anyone for the flu. I'm not a doctor, but the numbers seem to back that up.

@FarmerJayhawk

Naaaaa..... feels like we will just be adding another Helms Foundation trophy!

@drgnslayr Sadly, you're probably right.

@nuleafjhawk

You are probably right. I've said along that this version of coronavirus will make us more alert to all flu! They all kill elders and those with weak immunity.

I'm having a bad thought... that the tourney continues but all players are screened and we lose Doke and Devon to the virus so they are sidelined.

@nuleafjhawk

Except for in the test tube... how would someone know their clogged nose is Corona or Type A flu?

Why would the average Joe get tested? His parents are at risk regardless of the type of flu!

@drgnslayr Yeah, but this fucker kills alot quicker and more efficiently. It is not the flu.

@Marco

I'm wondering that because 13 people died from that one facility in Seattle. Maybe we should know more about that situation before we pass judgment on the harshness of this bug.

I don't think we really understand the fatality rate when looking at deaths compared to those tested and found to have it. That accuracy is at best a guess because most of the population doesn't even have side effects and the ones who do probably most don't get tested.

My gut says it's less fatal than Type A and B.... but everyone on this site knows how accurate my gut is from previous seasons!

@drgnslayr I hope you are right.

Freaking scary

@Crimsonorblue22 We agree on that, girl. Very fucking scary.

@Marco you watched that in 1 minute?

@Crimsonorblue22 watching it now.

@Crimsonorblue22 Yeah,,,, I would say that qualifies as freaking scary.

The NCAA has said as of today that they plan to move forward as usual. They have consulted the CDC and health department. One thing to consider is this most is a small sum of around 20k people. The subways in major cities run millions of individuals each day and are still going. If you are sick or elderly, I’d advise not to go. If it was in Wichita, I’d still go.

@Crimsonorblue22

Yikes. At first I didn't know what to think of that guy... then as it progressed and he spoke further it is obvious he knows what he is talking about.

That ending...

I hope our country, the wealthiest nation on earth, starts realizing we need to push a large chunk of our military spending into solving problems like this.

I support our military but how safe can they keep us when all the medical supplies we need are being made overseas and those supply lines get cut off?

@drgnslayr it scared me.

@FarmerJayhawk Ofcourse I would rather us play it out. But to be honest, Farmer, it's not about what I want at this point.

@Marco said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@drgnslayr Yeah, but this fucker kills alot quicker and more efficiently. It is not the flu.

Again CDC has come out since this has started and now say this is TEN TIMES a deadly as the flu

I could be wrong (for the millionth time)... but I still feel that saving lives must first start with the individual.

Many people are old or sick and they are at a disadvantage. But everyone, especially those at a disadvantage, must put their focus on health and building their immunity.

After watching many around me die from cancer, I started focusing on health. I quickly realized that what we put in our bodies is key. We need exercise, fresh air, a sense of humor, and safe healthy food and drink. I made that my life's mission as I became a late-blooming father. More than anything, I want my kids to be healthy. So I turned my home into our life source! I transformed the land into a growing space. Fruit trees, berry patches, figs, huge vegetable garden, herbs, grapes, and medicinal plants. All organic, and requiring a lot of extra effort in composting and developing soil. Okay... I know what you are thinking... and you can call me a weirdo!

I have an indoor garden for the winter. Sprouts, wheatgrass (and other grasses) and micro greens. I can my harvest to get me through the winter and I dry herbs for teas and live on root plants. I make kombucha and other ferments. Big on all kinds of kimchi. Big on smoothies... Big on drinking distilled water... Big on air filtering machines in every room to improve air quality indoors.

I don't take pharma because I don't need pharma. Obviously, that day may change as I age... but it's my goal to keep it natural and every health issue I've had to face (so far) I've been able to substitute synthetic medicine for a natural solution.

The real wake-up around this situation is one of personal responsibility (for most of us). For those who are less fortunate, we should do whatever we can to help them though we all must realize death is a part of life. I know my dad would be pissed off if the tournament isn't played in an effort to save his life! He's a Korean Vet and great human being and he's had his day in the sun.

@Marco said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@FarmerJayhawk Ofcourse I would rather us play it out. But to be honest, Farmer, it's not about what I want at this point.

For sure, just a hypothetical! There are certainly much bigger issues than basketball games around this deal

@jayballer73 link to it bring ten times deadlier? Outside of China the morality rate is less than double of the flu. Not sure how that could be 10 times more deadly. https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html ↗

What happens with the NCAA Tournament is largely going to be dependent other number of infections in the area where games are being played.

Here in Houston, there's been 14 confirmed cases, all travel related, out of a population of about 7 million people. We also currently have a much larger event than the NCAA Tournament going right now with the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo which is a 3 week event held at NRG Stadium that draws upwards of 80,000 people daily to the venue for the show and carnival around the grounds. Since that hasn't been affected yet, I can't see the NCAA banning fans from games here in 2 weeks unless something drastic happens with an outbreak here in the city.

I was also at the Rockets game tonight, go Ben McLemore, and there didn't appear to be any extra precautions being taken other than the PA guy and some graphics reminding people to wash their hands.

I can't speak for other cities, but I don't see the NCAA banning fans from attending the S16 and E8 games in Houston at this point.

This is my irritable gut again... my gut thinks that over the next week or two the gov will be releasing a million or so test kits and then the infection numbers explode. Then the NCAA is in real trouble. They've kept everything moving along with the belief that games will have fans in places that are not hot spots for the virus and then suddenly that changes. Last second cancellations for fans? Imagine that. Imagine all those fans spending money and traveling at risk then being cancelled at the end.

Could we see protests at arenas? Maybe even violence?

I know the NCAA isn't exactly loved by many. If what I mention happens, there will be some extremely upset fans.

Many "experts" on this are already past thinking we can strive for localized virus control. They are on to mitigation as the strategy.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

Freaking scary

The whole podcast is worth a listen. Also a really informative segment on CWD in deer, which is active in parts of central and western Kansas.

600 confirmed infected in the US yesterday. If we are like Italy we will have 9,000 cases in 10 more days.

Heard on Fox this morning they were talking to the Secetary of medical health. Was ask about the sports field and not allowing large groups of people to advents. he was ask who makes that determination, and responded that is left up to State and local authorities not the Federal Govt.

They said even with that being said that a Gov in the State of Ohio was saying they were host/site to NCAA and that he was recommending that NO fans be allowed in attendance . - which they said they certainly wouldn't 2nd guess decisions made by local authorities.

I also heard there are going to be conditions to the Big 12 tourney - - limited people to be able to attend team practices - -limited media access. I still am fully believing when it is done I just don't think they are going to have fans attend games.

Going to be interesting because some of the places hardest hit NY - - - Seattle - and possibly Florida? - -all NCAA sites right?

Don't play and give the national championship to the highest ranked team in both polls.

@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

If you are sick or elderly, I’d advise not to go.

Your post reflects a common if understandable misperception. The problem for large events isn't primarily the risk to attendees. It is that perfectly healthy people get infected at a high rate, then infect others, some of whom are high risk.

Consider, the New Rochelle, NY, area has been locked down Italy-style due to an outbreak that has been traced to a single⁸ 50 year old lawyer. First his entire family -- son, wife, daughter -- then the friend who drove him to the hospital, then other friends, colleagues, and synagogue acquaintances all ended up positive in less than a week. 108 cases in the county! And they don't even know where he got it.

So, assume just 5 people who unknowingly have been exposed go to an arena with 20,000 people--and they go to both sessions on a weekend. With the fast spread rate of this thing, assuming each sick person infects only 2, how many could be infected within a week? And how many down the line might visit a nursing home or live with cancer patients or, travelling to or from, just touch things at the store or the gas pump after coughing into their hands?

Unfortunately, there is a reason why eliminating large gatherings is virtually always a vital step in stopping epidemics--because it works. It slows down transmission so that resources can be marshalled and so the disease can be studied and more effective treatments can be developed for the symptoms, and eventually, hopefully, a vaccine.

Bottom line, many perfectly healthy people can acquire the virus and end up killing a large number of others. Will the NCAA want to deal with the PR of dozens, perhaps hundreds or even thousands, of cases ultimately tracked to the tourney?

@drgnslayr You may find it interesting to read the section on how they calculate the lethality rate in this site (which is the best site for all stats and info showing how it spreads, too; many links there full of great info).

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/#correct ↗

Big West & Mid American restricting no fans at Post Season tourneys. - - -USC & UCLA restricting fans from all sporting advents. - -NBA having conference call with owners about no fans at games.

Seattle possibly looking at restricting capacity of 250 fans at games. Pro and otherwise

NBA - - NFL - - MLB - - NSL restricting media from locker rooms. -NBA discussing about suspending Season

@mayjay

Thanks for the link.

I believe these formulas will change considerably as the outbreak continues.

These current formulas do not consider testing accuracy confidence data which come from a positive/negative control input (which is used to calculate testing accuracy).

@drgnslayr It will probably have to run its course this time around before any reliable stat is finalized.

Lack of accurate testing is a big bugaboo. For all of our uncertainty about unreported cases where people got no med care, there have got to also be deaths in some locations that no one even associated with COVID-19. Someone already ill with pneumonia or other resp distress that just took a turn without any known contact with travellers, etc. I even wonder if the flu stats have been affected by misdiagnoses. Lots of misunderstandings were evident in news reports in Jan and Feb.

Someone on my cruise forum just posted a rant about this just being a news hype and saying it is not even a epidemic. 120,000 infected, 7 billion not. More of a chance to be hit by lightning. Claims to be a first responder.

I asked him if the extremely low chance of being hit by lightning meant he stands under tall trees or on open hilltops during thunderstorms, or if he takes reasonable precautions like a sane person would?

@mayjay well my neighbor has been struck by lightening 4 times... some people never learn. His brother won’t stand near him during a storm. Others learn fast. Lol

@mayjay

All the stats are necessary for scientific evaluation. But it's being used as fuel for the fire of fear with the public.

Is that a good thing? On one hand, it stays in the short attention span of the public and may entice them to follow rules of social distancing, etc. On the other hand... it's chasing off confidence in the stock market, creating supplies shortages, killing business in almost every sector.

We are struggling to survive two separate viruses; the coronavirus, and the juxtavirus of the coronavirus (public reaction).

We live in a time of "frenzy logic." Science used to be something exercised behind closed doors and then only leaked to the public carefully. Today we have "science" from legit sources and questionable sources and often directly released to the public, who are untrained in science and easily taken advantage of by those with a specific motive. Science isn't supposed to be a tool of motive. It's a tool striving to limit bias. "Facts" are replaced with "levels of confidence." Knowledge is building blocks, a stream of studies both supporting and not-supporting ideas. The goal is to take ideas (hypothesis) through a conversion into logic statements, building empirical data, injecting into mathematical formulas to reach conclusions within a structure of confidence levels. Results aren't based on the way most minds work with analysis. We see what follows: misunderstanding, fear, misdirection, etc etc etc.

Look how quickly the public turns "science findings" into illogical decisions as they go from a feeling of safety to danger. Let's look at TOILET PAPER consumption. We did not have a toilet paper shortage in America. We have enough.... during calm times. Then we go into "frenzy logic." The public no longer stays calm and the beast comes out. GO BUY TOILET PAPER! So you have that initial group of buyers who are completely without trust of others, buying up TP. Then you have the next group in... those hearing from the media that TP is flying off the shelves so they go stock up "just in time." Then you have the victims... those who didn't react and run out. I'm probably missing a group or two.... like those hoping to profit over this by selling TP on the black market, or should I say "brown market."

There was a reason why science used to be safely buffered from the public.

@drgnslayr Much of those reactions are due to society, government, and business refusing to prepare for this. Heath officials and epidemiologists have warned of pandemics for years. Many have warned that disruptions from being unprepared will be catastrophic compared to prepping ahead of time and getting people conditioned to the necessity of coordinated responses that include restrictions on gatherings and movement.

@drgnslayr TP is even funnier during forecasted snowstorms. At least this one could involve being quarantined for weeks. Snowstorms, not so much...

@mayjay

Yes... It is tragic that we have to push people to react on social distancing, etc., while suffer catastrophic results in other areas because of the frenzy mentality.

There is no going back so we should continue giving info and hope some of it sticks...

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/166606 ↗

Maybe we shouldn't be discussing these runs so much.

@mayjay

At least toilet paper is decent insulation! Fill the room with TP, just leaving a squatting space in the center. hahahaaa.... Kind of sounds like I know from experience! (not going to say)

(proper social distancing)

New definition acquired after Coronavirus:

"Consumer confidence" = Standing in checkout line at the market and noticing the person in front of you with a shopping cart full of toilet paper. Then deciding that consumer looks like he/she knows something special so pull out of line to add more toilet paper to your cart.

@drgnslayr said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

New definition acquired after Coronavirus:

"Consumer confidence" = Standing in checkout line at the market and noticing the person in front of you with a shopping cart full of toilet paper. Then deciding that consumer looks like he/she knows something special so pull out of line to add more toilet paper to your cart.

See like my neighbor said what the hell does toilet paper got to do with anything. - -You can't fid any toilet paper ? - - Corona virus doesn't give you instant Dirrea - kind of thinking so myself what the hell

Been training for my first half marathon. It’s in 3 weeks. It’s also going to be my last. I ran 11.5 on Saturday which is my all time high. I’ll be beyond upset if they cancel.

@wissox If they do, run it anyway. You won't have to worry about catching anything from anyone. Or catching anyone.

Just announced - NCAA recommends no fans at the NCAA tournament. As of now it’s it’s just Ohio ncaa games that will have no fans. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28885087/governor-no-fans-ohio-ncaa-tournament-games ↗

Re-listened I did hear right to first time. Mark Emmert says no fans at the NCAA tournament.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28885422/ncaa-says-tournament-go-fans ↗

Wow

yep no fans for women or mens just came across TV & read article it's all games

I wish they’d do an Olympic village type setting - all games one venue. Then you could test enough people to fill that sucker a couple times over with sequestered, healthy people for the duration of the tourney.

@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

I wish they’d do an Olympic village type setting - all games one venue. Then you could test enough people to fill that sucker a couple times over with sequestered, healthy people for the duration of the tourney.

So since there’s no point in playing the games in big domes, I move we play the whole thing at Allen. It’s reasonably sized and about halfway for everyone. And since there’s only 1 case in Kansas and it only kills old folks, just let the students in. Can’t hurt anything.

NCAA tournament will be played without fans.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28885422/ncaa-says-tournament-go-fans ↗

@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

I wish they’d do an Olympic village type setting - all games one venue. Then you could test enough people to fill that sucker a couple times over with sequestered, healthy people for the duration of the tourney.

I'm telling ya don't have a heart attack - it could still very well happen where they cancel completely. - -People say they won't cancel to big of money maker. - - Well if the fans aren't allowed to be there then there goes at least half the revenue they make on the tourney - - don't be surprised with the way this virus is going

Imagine how it will be winning a title for the team that does in an empty arena.

@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

Imagine how it will be winning a title for the team that does in an empty arena.

kind of sucks huh.

@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

Imagine how it will be winning a title for the team that does in an empty arena.

"And both fans go wild!"

I’m in minority on this but I think it’s being blown way outta proportion. Death totals for the flu in this country are nearing 50,000 right now for this winter. The coronavirus Death total is less than 10,000 world wide. One could very easily make the case that they never should have played the tournament during flu season.

So much for the geographic fan advantage. Playing in Omaha might as well be Spokane, save the slight jet lag.

Heard families will still be allowed in to watch...

Are cheerleaders essential staff? If so I think we all have a case for admittance!

We'll see how much viewers like the sound of squeaking sneakers instead of the roar of the crowd.

Happened to watch a sumo tournament on the NHK Japanese channel the other day where the arena was empty due to the virus. You could actually hear the wrestlers breathing. Very weird.

@FarmerJayhawk said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

I wish they’d do an Olympic village type setting - all games one venue. Then you could test enough people to fill that sucker a couple times over with sequestered, healthy people for the duration of the tourney.

So since there’s no point in playing the games in big domes, I move we play the whole thing at Allen. It’s reasonably sized and about halfway for everyone. And since there’s only 1 case in Kansas and it only kills old folks, just let the students in. Can’t hurt anything.

I always think the tournament should be held on the favorites home court. Imagine the Allen Fieldhouse crowd cheering on a Final Four game in Lawrence! Rocket sauce

"Based on their advice and my discussions with the NCAA Board of Governors, I have made the decision to conduct our upcoming championship events, including the Division I men's and women's basketball tournaments, with only essential staff and limited family attendance."

LIMITED FAMILY ATTENDANCE! We're okay. The Jayhawk Nation is all family! ;)

Question now... We lose our huge fan base wherever they play but will it really be a disadvantage for us? We always get the rest of the crowd against us from the other schools since we are favorites.

Isn't this the time to have that "chip" kick in totally now that the nerves will be gone?

Might Doke now shoot FTs like he does in practice?

These games will be surreal and so will it be to watch them.

Will the bench (coaches) be on a microphone?

The NCAA could pay a production company to fill in the soundtrack with crowd roar. Won't be the first time in sports...

@kjayhawks It will be like any game that Oklahoma State wins at home.

@benshawks08 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

Heard families will still be allowed in to watch...

@benshawks08 The article said "essential staff and limited family attendance." I'm guessing that means the players' Moms and Dads only.

@dylans Cheerleaders SHOULD be!

I can’t wait to hear every word Self yells, the refs probably aren’t as eager.

SO - does this mean we will actually get to watch the games on TV or will they pull some Pay-Per-View garbage on us ?

Guess I will have to break the social distancing rules by throwing a huge party and pack my living room elbow to elbow.

Coughing and sneezing allowed only at halftime.

Gotta be an NCAA conspiracy against KU.

@nuleafjhawk

They've got to make up for a lot of lost income. My bet is pay-per-view.

Don't sweat it... you are officially invited to my party! $1 a head should more than cover the cost.

@drgnslayr Count me in, brother.

Think I will see if we can rent AFH for every game.

We will fill it!

Everyone sign a silly waiver and let's get it on!!!

We'll have Self bring speakers to each game and we will send a live audio feed for crowd noise!!!

@drgnslayr You know, that's really a good idea.

I'm in!

Anyone else?

Let's do this! Seriously! There is no law stating we can't gather.

We will follow the rules above and we will have a safe gathering!

Done!

@drgnslayr Keep me posted!

I bet the NCAA's revenue is partially insured. TV is the bigger deal than ticket revenue. Would be a royal dick move to tell fans A) they can't go and B) they have to pay additional funds to watch

@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

Gotta be an NCAA conspiracy against KU.

Jaybate would have ran articles about this months ago

What a way to get our name remembered for forever. Winning the C19 NCAA national championship

@dylans I’ve always said at least first 2 rounds should be held at home for the higher seed. That will never happen tho, there’d never a lot less upsets. UNI, Bucknell, Stanford or Bradley ain’t winning in AFH.

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Seems to me quarantining the elders would be smart, everyone else wash hands and use your head.

Maybe the Big12 should ban fans at the tournament too. Not for COVID-19, but to get ready for an NCAA tournament played that way.

@dylans yep get used to it then

Jesus Garrett is hurt again, again

@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

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Seems to me quarantining the elders would be smart, everyone else wash hands and use your head.

A close friend of mines Daughter - - 17 yrs old was just admitted and being test for the virus running culture scopes already pneumonia waiting for results to come back

So now with the fans not being allowed to the Tourney does that mean the NCAA has to reimburs the money spent to all fans who has bought tickets?

@jayballer73 they are reimbursing folks.

Just heard off ESPN - - There will be NO FANS at the Big Twelve tournament starting tomorow

With no fans in the stands, how great are the odds of a true mid major winning the tournament now?

Programs like KU feed off the energy and there won't be any inside the arenas now. Also, why play the games in Indy and Atlanta in the football stadiums at this point. Move the Indy regional to the Pacers arena or Hinkle if the Pacers schedule conflicted with moving S16 and E8 games there.

Same deal with Atlanta, move it to the Hawks arena or Georgia Tech at this point because it makes little sense to play basketball games inside a football stadium with no crowd.

Just wow. Dont agree but that's just my selfish thoughts here. Understand that there is the for the greater good thing going on. Just the fan part of this is such a big part

@Texas-Hawk-10 They are looking for smaller venues (in the same cities) for the final four and champ games now.

There is always a chance possibly that this may be straightened out some by the time we get to the great 8 final four - - maybe fans could still attend those games

@BeddieKU23 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

Jesus Garrett is hurt again, again

Is it his foot / ankle still?

@jayballer73 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

There is always a chance possibly that this may be straightened out some by the time we get to the great 8 final four - - maybe fans could still attend those games

No, there is no chance, barring divine intervention with parting clouds and a giant syringe descending from the skies.

Looks plenty full here for Okst and ISU. Tonight’s game tickets are hot because it’s the last chance to see a live game in person likely.

@rockchalkwyo said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@BeddieKU23 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

Jesus Garrett is hurt again, again

Is it his foot / ankle still?

Ankle again and it's the bad one

Looks like a nba player for OKC or Utah was ill at tonight’s game - they cancelled the game and then the season. The nba is done for the year.

Give it 1 hour and the NCAA will follow

Actually they are not sure if they are done for the Season or just suspending for a couple of weeks either way this is got crazy

Looks like a Jazz player has tested positive for covid-19. Oh boy

@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

Looks like a Jazz player has tested positive for covid-19. Oh boy

That player is Rudy Gobert and the NBA is suspending the season as of the completion of tonight's games.

It's weird watching this go on as the Nuggets and Mavs are playing on ESPN.

I like Rudy!

Weird times.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

I like Rudy!

Hate the Jazz with a passion and have since John Stockton knocked the Rockets out of the playoffs in the 1997 WCF and denied the world a Rockets-Bulls finals that we never got. Also, Karl Malone was one of the dirtiest players on NBA history and an even worse human being. They're also coached by Quin Snyder.

@rockchalkwyo said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

Give it 1 hour and the NCAA will follow

They should go ahead and cancel and name the #1 team national champs. Just my unbiased opinion.

Oh man, that would be a hollow championship. I enjoy the drama even though we come up short all too often.

Ha. I agree unbiasedly too of course. How ever, everyone and their mother would just complain and call it a participation trophy just resulting in more people hating KU.

This team can take all comers. No need to hide. Bring it! I’m afraid we may be denied our opportunity to watch our boys crush the field. :(

NBA just suspended the season due to a Jazz player testing positive for the virus. We are close to having no shot at title. For a virus that is less than a cold to people under 50.

@kjayhawks But would be a death sentence to my 88 year old copd riddled grandfather. If the symptoms showed up faster it would be no big deal, it’s a ticking time bomb for the elderly is the scary part and it spreads fast.

So, we have 9 presumptive cases here in SC, and 7 of them were in the next county over, but if hospitalized come to ours. It is a county where about half the workers come here to work. Makes you really think about the many ways you could connect with this. We are laying low as much as possible for awhile...

I hope they just go ahead and test the players and anyone going (125 tickets per team as of now) to the the NCAA tournament beforehand.

@kjayhawks The doctors in Italy are trying to get the word out that the virus can be extraordinarily miserable for younger people, too. A thing to remember is that it is averaging something like 20 days from diagnosis to recovery for people surviving, even younger ones. In some hospials, they are triaging by not even intubating elderly or putting them on respirators so they can devote ICUs to people with a better chance of survival. One doctor sais he is furious about people saying it is like the flu or a cold. It is not.

@mayjay Tom Hanks has it

@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

NBA just suspended the season due to a Jazz player testing positive for the virus. We are close to having no shot at title. For a virus that is less than a cold to people under 50.

The danger of this isn't in the mortality rate (about 4% in the US). The danger is in the number of cases that require hospitalization and would overwhelm medical facilities and tie up resources in a lot of different areas of need.

This is the core reason why Italy shut down was the stress on their medical resources from this, not the severity of the disease itself.

@dylans and his wife

@dylans no time and probably no tests

Takes forever

They are saying with the way things have been developing today they fully expect another statement from the NCAA within the next 24 hours - -you ready? - - it's coming -- they gonna cancel this thing completely.

Half the problem is testing is a pain to even get done. It’s just sucks all around I don’t mean to sound insensitive on the matter.

Can’t imagine they’ll cancel the whole thing unless a player or coach comes up positive. The NBA was moving forward until Gobert tested positive. Then it makes sense to hit the pause button for a bit.

Fred Hoiberg left the game with Nebraska is Sick ? - - hmmmmm - -Corona Virus in Nebraska - -sure the hell hope not - -he hasn't been back

It would suck to be quarantined without being able to watch

Still a lot of flu going around too

@Crimsonorblue22 24hrs I believe. The tourney is in 2 weeks, so maybe it’s feasible.

Remember hoiberg has heart problems

@Crimsonorblue22 left the league to dodge Bill because of them... 😝

@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@Crimsonorblue22 24hrs I believe. The tourney is in 2 weeks, so maybe it’s feasible.

You talking the tests results? Some take days. I did here we now have a place in Topeka we can take tests, same day. Results faster. Not everyone has tests though. Wasn't a priority? 🤷‍♀️😡 I don't know if everything I hear is right though.

@jayballer73 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

Fred Hoiberg left the game with Nebraska is Sick ? - - hmmmmm - -Corona Virus in Nebraska - -sure the hell hope not - -he hasn't been back

He’s en route to the hospital. Hope he’s ok!

KU has suspended classes indefinitely

This is surreal.

@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

KU has suspended classes indefinitely

This is surreal.

It’s wild. I’m going to spend the next week figuring out how to teach remotely to make it as seamless as possible for me and my students.

@dylans 6 days, actually, not 2 weeks!

@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

KU has suspended classes indefinitely

This is surreal.

They haven't suspended classes indefinitely. In person classes are delayed until March 23 and will continue as online classes at that point. Classes that were already online will resume at their regularly scheduled date of March 16. The one week delay is so professors can have time to transition their classes to online platforms.

@Texas-Hawk-10 yeah that’s not normal. FYI

I’d be pissed if I paid for classes and they were indefinitely suspended and switched to online classes for any other reason.

@FarmerJayhawk said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@jayballer73 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

Fred Hoiberg left the game with Nebraska is Sick ? - - hmmmmm - -Corona Virus in Nebraska - -sure the hell hope not - -he hasn't been back

He’s en route to the hospital. Hope he’s ok!

Oh Boy mercy , mercy. - me too buddy? - -so are we thinking might going for possible testing of Corona have you heard? - or is it something else ?

@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@Texas-Hawk-10 yeah that’s not normal. FYI

I’d be pissed if I paid for classes and they were indefinitely suspended and switched to online classes for any other reason.

Keep in mind a lot of schools are on spring break right now so kids have been traveling all over the country and world. Who knows how many new cases are going to pop up on college campuses in the next 2-3 weeks. KU is also hardly the only school taking this step. A lot of schools beside KU are doing the same thing to minimize the spread of the disease.

@jayballer73 https://247sports.com/Article/-Coronavirus-Nebraska-basketball-coach-Fred-Hoiberg-hospitalized-sick-Big-Ten-Tournament-2020-144914974/ ↗

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@Texas-Hawk-10 yeah that’s not normal. FYI

I’d be pissed if I paid for classes and they were indefinitely suspended and switched to online classes for any other reason.

Keep in mind a lot of schools are on spring break right now so kids have been traveling all over the country and world. Who knows how many new cases are going to pop up on college campuses in the next 2-3 weeks. KU is also hardly the only school taking this step. A lot of schools beside KU are doing the same thing to minimize the spread of the disease.

Rough list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19wJZekxpewDQmApULkvZRBpBwcnd5gZlZF2SEU2WQD8/htmlview?sle=true#gid=0 ↗

I don’t want to be exposed. I’ve got 80 students coming back from break. Better to be cautious for the next few weeks and then reassess.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@Texas-Hawk-10 yeah that’s not normal. FYI

I’d be pissed if I paid for classes and they were indefinitely suspended and switched to online classes for any other reason.

Keep in mind a lot of schools are on spring break right now so kids have been traveling all over the country and world. Who knows how many new cases are going to pop up on college campuses in the next 2-3 weeks. KU is also hardly the only school taking this step. A lot of schools beside KU are doing the same thing to minimize the spread of the disease.

My quote is that I think it’s ok for this and basically only this if you need a translation. Sorry for my poor communication skills. I seem to have you confused this evening, at least I feel misrepresented.

This is just a sad situation period. One other thing with this , you know a person I would really feeld bad for/sad if they decide to Cancel the NCAA Entirely ?

I would feel so bad for Doke. - -the guy has had so much bad luck and worked his ass off - -and now this - - - Only played limited his Soph & JR years because of injuries. Came in as a fresh out of shape/overweight , work his butt off to transform his body - -now just a specimen , has a really , really solid season , get's name Big 12 Player of the Year Has a chance to win a NCAA title in his only complete year a very legit chance and now this happens.

If they Canel totally - that would suck for everyone BUT I woul feel extra sad for him, keep fingers crossed. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer73 said he was coughing, great idea to expose everyone!

@Crimsonorblue22 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@jayballer73 said he was coughing, great idea to expose everyone!

MERCY , my understanding that is one of the sympthoms

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/2020/03/11/coronavirus-fred-hoiberg-leaves-big-ten-tournament-game-illness/5028815002/ ↗

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@rockchalkwyo said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

Give it 1 hour and the NCAA will follow

They should go ahead and cancel and name the #1 team national champs. Just my unbiased opinion.

Agree we have been # 1 and was voted # 1 for the last 3 weeks unanumious so why not

@Crimsonorblue22 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/2020/03/11/coronavirus-fred-hoiberg-leaves-big-ten-tournament-game-illness/5028815002/ ↗

Didn't realize Doc Sadler was back at Nebraska. That's gotta be a weird feeling to be an assistant coach of a program you were the head coach of for several years in the not to distant past.

@Texas-Hawk-10 he's been everywhere, had some sad times.

We have no TP at Walmart or Dillons, not sure why a person would stock on that at this point. If push comes to shove, one can hop in the shower lol

🤞 🤞 🤞 we have a tournament

@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

🤞 🤞 🤞 we have a tournament

I'm hopeful we get one, but man, I just don't know. This whole thing is moving so fast.

I think they will role on as long as no one test positive entering the games. Imagine how bad it would suck if you won final four tickets this season.

I am thinking no tournament this year. Everyone disappointed, but it reduces the chances of seeing Roy and Huggy and Leonard Hamilton die. Among 200,000 potential others.

Commentators on ESPN were predicting NCAA will cancel before tomorrow's games.

@mayjay Gallows humor, and very effective.

Hoiberg tested positive for flu. Good news but still sucks! Stay home

NCAA will get their wish: we will finish the year number 1 with an asterisk.

@Crimsonorblue22 Glad to hear only the flu but his health history makes it more serious.

The film of him on the bench looked just like a guy who was coming to do a home inspection on my house. He waited a few mins to get out and said he just needed a few more. I asked if he wanted 911 and he said no. Sweating, gasping for breath... called 911 immediately anyway. They were there in 3 mins, and took him to the hospital. Seizures with 2 heart attacks on the drive there. Lived to tell about it.

An allegory for our own time, perhaps? Sometimes people don't recognize when their determination to bull ahead is just not enough to beat down a major health threat.

@bskeet Maybe if it is cancelled the NBA combine will be, too, and Doke will get a redshirt, and Dot will come back, and I will win the lottery, and .....

@kjayhawks

I don't understand your chart. It doesn't add up close to 100%.

@mayjay

Talk about ultimate chip.... these guys end up #1 and don't get to prove it!

@Crimsonorblue22

And Hanks and others.... yet our country only has a little over 1000 cases. Gheez.....

@drgnslayr it’s a death rate percentage per group not percentage of people who have it.

@kjayhawks

Right. It shows each age group and it should add up to 100%.

@drgnslayr Only if 100% of the people die. The balance survived. It shows the mortality rate is high for the elderly and low for anyone else. That’s all.

@dylans

Okay. It's a % within each age group.

Gupta mentioned this morning maybe 1% of our population is now infected. That's 3.5 million or so.

Finally a more realistic number mentioned.

If that is accurate or close to it, then we should quickly see a huge death count if it is as deadly as they projected.

Jay Williams and Charles Barkley want to cancel the NCAA tournament for health concerns for the players. That is dumb. The players will be fine, to slow the spread of the virus is the only reason to remove the crowd. The players fit the demographic that will be fine. If a player tests positive, measures should be taken to quarantine, assuming we’re still doing that in a week.

The health of the players with maybe 20 people hitting the court 10 of whom are already exposed to one another anyway isn’t much exposure risk. I’m not overly social and see more people than that. How many people touch the door handle at the convince store I get gas at every morning? More than 10 I guarantee you that. The players are is less at risk than anyone using public transportation. How many people on the subway each day?

Jay Bilas says the tourney should be postponed or cancelled:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2020/03/12/coronavirus-jay-bilas-says-ncaa-needs-postpone-tournament/5030048002/ ↗

Expect this to happen today or tomorrow at the latest.

Bye bye NC!

With the Big 12 tourney still in place.... it is best we treat that like the Final Four because this will mark the end of our season.

And a loss will raise criticism that we didn't finish the season #1 in the nation!

@dylans The issue regarding playing the NCAA Tournament is the travel involved. Most teams playing in the NCAA Tournament have to fly commercial because they don't have chartered planes due to the budgets of the school. You also have these players coming into contact with fans at the hotels.

Using KU for example, KU does charter so the flights aren't an issue, but there's still interactions with fans in Omaha. Whoever KU's 16 seed is will be a program that flies commercially. Let's say that one of their players picks up the virus from another asymptomatic passenger and passes the virus to a KU player during the game. Fast forward a couple of weeks to the Final Four in Atlanta and Devon Dotson starts showing outward symptoms OF COVID-19 on Saturday mid afternoon of the semifinals game. Medical officials scramble to test Dotson and it comes back positive for COVID-19. Now KU can't play their Final Four game because they are locked in quarantine in their hotel in Atlanta while everyone is being tested.

Because of what happened in Oklahoma City last night involving the Utah Jazz, this escalates very quickly and if a player tests positive.

What would've happened to the B10 Tournament today had Fred Hoiberg tested positive for COVID-19 last night? Would Indiana have been allowed to play today after that exposure last night?

@dylans Also keep in mind these players are still students that have classes with hundreds of other students on a college campus where the local clinic is not prepared to deal with mass exposures. These players are exposed to a lot more people on a regular basis than adults are because they are still students.

Logistically it’s pretty simple, but maybe I have a simple mind. Get on a bus and don’t get off until you’re there.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@dylans Also keep in mind these players are still students that have classes with hundreds of other students on a college campus where the local clinic is not prepared to deal with mass exposures. These players are exposed to a lot more people on a regular basis than adults are because they are still students.

I believe you corrected my wording on this yesterday, so you know there are no students on KU’s campus. How many more campuses will be the same in a week?

Also less exposure than anyone who uses the subway - 1 million passengers a day.

Either everyone should be forced to stay home and not work or these kids should be allowed to play the game they’ve worked their asses off for.

Jay Williams wasn’t telecommuting. Tell the kids to stay home while going out himself. He didn’t miss his opportunity to get his face on tv, but the kids should? Nah. That’s not right.

I think these conference tournament games with no fans will be kind of a litmus test for the tournament either happening or not happening. If none of the players/staff etc get sick from now until Sunday, the NCAA might feel better proceeding with the current scenario of a tournament with no fans. If we have an incident like the NBA had with Rudy Gobert, I'm guessing the tournament will be cancelled or postponed.

@dylans 2 big flaws with you statement here.

1) Campuses are not empty because many students cannot afford to travel home for spring break and are still on campus. Also, not every school has spring break the same week so not every campus is taking this step yet.

2) The timeframe of being outwardly symptomatic is about 2 weeks from exposure. Players were still going to classes 7 days ago so it's not out of the question that a basketball player, coach, trainer, manager, or someone else affiliated with the basketball team of an NCAA Tournament team currently has COVID-19 but is asymptomatic and won't show outward signs until in the middle of the NCAA Tournament.

Again the tournament is in 5 days. Testing can be done in 24 hours or less. If the NCAA cared they could test the players. They don’t care about the players, but they do care about the pressure the media is putting on them to panic and cave while still going about their daily life - going to work etc. The players can be quarantined in McCarthy Hall -a regular death sentence - until cleared upon returning. No parade though.

@dylans The CDC tested 8 people yesterday so testing EVERY player would be a huge increase in the current testing going on right now.

@benshawks08 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@dylans The CDC tested 8 people yesterday so testing EVERY player would be a huge increase in the current testing going on right now.

Our government at work.

I ask anyone who thinks the kids should give up their dream, what have you giving up? Are you going to work? How is that any different? As a college student I was never around the elderly. As a middle aged man I talk to people in their 70s and 80s weekly. I can’t get sick, it would be disastrous. I will try to communicate thru email and the phone as much as they will allow, but it’s the wrong generation for that.

The WHO has said to release dogs out of quarantine, they don’t carry Coronavirus. WHO let the dogs out!?!

@dylans Do you deal in your job with agricultural diseases, or just crops? What happens in a situation where one cow dies of anthrax?

@drgnslayr basically where it says .4% of people in age group died that 99.6% of the people in the age group didn’t.

It’s not a matter of if it’s when is the tournament going to be called... I’d say at this point it’s less than a 5% chance it’s played.

A second Jazz player just announced to be positive.

@mayjay said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

A second Jazz player just announced to be positive.

Donovan Mitchell

So, millions are riding subways and elevated trains each day in major cities. The whole country is still working and going to school for the most part. But we are worried about 20k at a basketball game. Just doesn’t sound remotely logical to me.

@mayjay said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@dylans Do you deal in your job with agricultural diseases, or just crops? What happens in a situation where one cow dies of anthrax?

Crops and the diseases that naturally populate the fields. I own cattle as well and my dad is part owner of a feedyard, so I’ve been around a few million cattle (literally). Anthrax is rare here, thankfully. There is a dead hauler that picks up the carcasses normally, but under a positive test result I’m not sure what they do. Isolate and incinerate? Burying only preserves the problem for later.

https://www.beefresearch.ca/research-topic.cfm/anthrax-62 ↗

The AAC and Big-10 just canceled their tournaments

SEC tournament canceled

@kjayhawks not even 20k now. Less than 1000 with only 250 total spectators allowed in.

I’m becoming more and more doubtful there will be a tournament.

On here’s a scenario that may work. Delay the tournament 10-14 days. During that time any teams that want to play, and any essential staff, and the 125 fans from each team should be quarantined and monitored by medical staff. That weeds out the infected; should be plenty long for the incubation period. (And it gives Garrett time to heal ;) )

There will be no tournament at this rate. All the conference tournaments have been canceled..

@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

So, millions are riding subways and elevated trains each day in major cities. The whole country is still working and going to school for the most part. But we are worried about 20k at a basketball game. Just doesn’t sound remotely logical to me.

It's not and that's why Italy was essentially shut down.

I'm a teacher on spring break right now. My district hasn't made any announcement yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if they sent an email out sometime before Monday that they are delaying the return of students as well to minimize risks.

@BeddieKU23 ACC just shut down...maybe. Clemson isn’t taking the court.

@Texas-Hawk-10 they should. Schools foster disease. Kids are great at spreading colds and such. It’s as if they’re meant to supplant us.

@kjayhawks Bidet ??

Rick Barnes says the UT players were very worried about playing. ESPN reported their Asst AD for communications is very relieved: had a liver transplant in 2018 and is still on immuno-suppressing meds, and is one of those ancillary people who would be affected by any decision to play.

Jazz players report Gobert was touching everyone in the locker room, and the news conf showed him picking up all the reporters' mics (not sure when). What an ass.

Big 12 cancelled.

@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@Texas-Hawk-10 they should. Schools foster disease. Kids are great at spreading colds and such. It’s as if they’re meant to supplant us.

And if my district says I have to be there, I'm still going to be there because I still have bills to pay. As much as I would disagree with that decision, I don't have the PTO saved up to take an extended break until this outbreak settles down.

ACC just announced they are cancelling their tournament. 11:23 am. Announcement is sad to listen too. Big12 next... :(

Wonder if they would try to move it back to like May if this stuff clears out?

Just named FSU the ACC champ and Leonard Hamilton coy

Big 12 done too

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@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

Wonder if they would try to move it back to like May if this stuff clears out?

I may be mistaken, but I believe the Ivy League has cancelled spring sports already - like baseball.

I don’t think it’s going away soon. I really hope I’m wrong.

The nfl isn’t thinking about canceling, because only Tom Brady and the oldest coaches are at risk. Lol

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28891831/nfl-not-delaying-start-league-year-coronavirus ↗

Maybe I'm preaching to the choir, but when I hear people say: "....but there's only 1000 cases in the US..." I feel they are missing some key points:
1) There aren't enough test kits to test everyone with symptoms.
2) The incubation period is at least 14 days, and consequently...
3) ... an unknown number of people are infected, and unaware and un-symptomatic
4) It is known to be highly contagious and easily transmitted...
5) which means you might not have to come in contact with a contagious person, but simply in contact with something that was in contact with a contagious person.
6) I'm not even talking about mortality rate, which is unclear as well.
7) It's a novel virus, which means no one has immunity.
8) Best estimates are that a vaccine is a year away.

Given the unknowns, and the few knowns, I conclude that the actions are prudent. It sucks, but the population needs to take 2 weeks pause at least to let the infected people develop the symptoms so we can get a better sense of the scope.

Is it possible that all the young folks that statistics have proven will survive the virus will now have anti-bodies to protect them when they are elderly and no longer need to fear the virus? Is it possible it has a latent period like chicken pox and shingles? Are we under or over reacting? Either way it should’ve been done a month ago.

@Texas-Hawk-10 My spring break is next week. I definitely didn't shake every kids hand as they walked in the door today! Stood there with my hands in my pockets and said "Good Morning!"

@benshawks08 elbows

i'm not a epidemiologist but my understanding is that this virus is corona-style which is not one that people tend to develop immunity as compared to chicken pox/shingles.. I think it's a different strain...

People can get the coronavirus more than once, experts warn — recovering does not necessarily make you immune

https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-risk-of-reinfection-2020-2 ↗

Not sure of the validity of this, so would encourage looking for other sources.

@bskeet said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

i'm not a epidemiologist but my understanding is that this virus is corona-style which is not one that people tend to develop immunity as compared to chicken pox/shingles.. I think it's a different strain...

COVID-19 shares about 90% of its DNA with SARS from what I've read.

@bskeet said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

i'm not a epidemiologist but my understanding is that this virus is corona-style which is not one that people tend to develop immunity as compared to chicken pox/shingles.. I think it's a different strain...

People can get the coronavirus more than once, experts warn — recovering does not necessarily make you immune

https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-risk-of-reinfection-2020-2 ↗

Not sure of the validity of this, so would encourage looking for other sources.

That doesn’t sound promising for an effective vaccine then.

@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

That doesn’t sound promising for an effective vaccine then.

Entirely possible. HIV took a long time to get under control. SARS, H1N1, Zika..not sure what's available.

Maybe with the NBA shut down we’ll get a bonus year of Dok (hardship waiver medical or otherwise) and Dot. Ok, I know I’m dreaming...

Baseball and NHL suspending as per ESPN

Sports Armageddon.

Looks like we will all have an opportunity to reevaluate our lifestyles.

Great opportunity to work on family relationships.

@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

The nfl isn’t thinking about canceling, because only Tom Brady and the oldest coaches are at risk. Lol

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28891831/nfl-not-delaying-start-league-year-coronavirus ↗

The NFL also doesn't have much going on either right now. It's easy enough to FaceTime Pro Day drills and interviews and still get the information teams need/want on players.

The next thing in their agenda that's going to be affected is the draft in April in Las Vegas. In a little over a month. I'd expect that to be closed to the public based on projections of when the spread of this disease should slow down.

@drgnslayr said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

Looks like we will all have an opportunity to reevaluate our lifestyles.

Great opportunity to work on family relationships.

This board counts as a family, right?

@bskeet

It sure does, my friend!

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Not great for retirement funds. Might have to work extra now. This is the real tragedy. I’m out of shape about sports, but the economy is getting bent over and being gently screwed with a chainsaw right now. Might present a buying opportunity for someone if they can figure out the bottom.

This thing is toast

@Crimsonorblue22 One kid got a fist bump...

@dylans LOL.. well, the market's growth over the last 2 years was a house of cards. The debt skyrocketed.. lots of Fed fiddling and infusing funds.. the bloodletting is scary, but not totally unexpected.

Also, you are absolutely right that this is an opportunity if you have resources and happen to time things right.

All major sports leagues in North America are now on hiatus that are in season as MLB, NHL, and MLS have suspended operations for the time being.

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I was just googling H1N1 and it happened in 2009 and was considerably more deadly. Virtually everything when on business as usual. I still think we are blowing this way outta proportion. We have done nothing in previous pandemics that statistically are 20 and 30 times deadly than this.

@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

I was just googling H1N1 and it happened in 2009 and was considerably more deadly. Virtually everything when on business as usual. I still think we are blowing this way outta proportion. We have done nothing in previous pandemics that statistically are 20 and 30 times deadly than this.

Maybe it killed a lot more people because it was business as usual..?

I live in a small town. We all have a central post office to get mail (No door to door delivery). Everyone in town (1,500) will get it if one person does.

@FarmerJayhawk it’s morality was much higher from the get go. We will be laughing at this in a month and talking about how insanely stupid it was. Remember which president was in and got a pass on this. Also the media didn’t go completely bananas when that happened or west Nile or Ebola or Zika.

@dylans me too, not worried at this point personally.

so - our boys, the number one team, won't get to play in the big dance. obviously they ae going to have to cancel it.
this just blows bing time - I'm soooo pissed

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https://www.wdrb.com/news/national/dr-drew-media-driven-panic-over-coronavirus-is-a-bigger/article_f884b568-5d7f-11ea-9210-9f894bfd0044.html ↗

@Bosthawk I am very upset myself, I will continue to be so if it blows over like it pretty much has in China now after a few months and they had the highest morality rate.

@Bosthawk said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

so - our boys, the number one team, won't get to play in the big dance. obviously they ae going to have to cancel it.
this just blows bing time - I'm soooo pissed

well don't feel like the lone ranger you no different then thousands of others I'm pissed too feel so bad for Doke but we know this was the RIGHT decision , like they were talking your putting the college players at risk to , the players them selves thinking well not really wanting to play but yet wanting to play for the team just can't take that risk - sucks cause think this was OUR year , this screwing with our economy HUGE

@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@FarmerJayhawk it’s morality was much higher from the get go. We will be laughing at this in a month and talking about how insanely stupid it was. Remember which president was in and got a pass on this. Also the media didn’t go completely bananas when that happened or west Nile or Ebola or Zika.

We’ll be happy we took measures to protect a bunch of people. It’s the problem with getting people to believe these things actually work. They see “oh look, nothing happened!” And think it was all just hype. The patterns are really, really bad. If we can save lives by canceling some entertainment temporarily let’s do it. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ ↗

@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

I was just googling H1N1 and it happened in 2009 and was considerably more deadly. Virtually everything when on business as usual. I still think we are blowing this way outta proportion. We have done nothing in previous pandemics that statistically are 20 and 30 times deadly than this.

To those who are young and have no respiratory or auto-immune issues, and only care about themselves -- this probably seems like overkill because they are unlikely to be severely affected by this strain.

But for members of at-risk populations, it could be too little too late. Covid-19 is considerably more contagious than H1N1. No one has immunity, as it is novel. The mortality rate in at-risk populations may be as high as SARS.

@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@FarmerJayhawk it’s morality was much higher from the get go. We will be laughing at this in a month and talking about how insanely stupid it was. Remember which president was in and got a pass on this. Also the media didn’t go completely bananas when that happened or west Nile or Ebola or Zika.

Trump doesn't have a dam thing to do with any cancelations of Tournaments - that's all left up to the NCAA and Conference authorities easy to try and blame this virus on the President - -come on now leave the dam politics bullshit out of this. Were talking about people's health. -We need to think about people's health here just because some doesn't have it or think they can get it is no reason to try and place crazy blame on others mercy

@FarmerJayhawk ever read the boy who cried wolf? The more this happens and turns out to be not as serious, less and less will take it seriously. I’m really mad and not trying be a jerk but I still think this is getting a super crazy. I will agree to disagree with anyone my friend.

@jayballer73 I posted that on the wrong thread my friend, my apologies.

Kansas has suspended all athletic activities. They won't be dancing even if there was one to dance

@bskeet your not getting me my friend. If you google numbers. Pneumonia and the flu are more deadly to elders from numbers that I’ve seen. I’ve been saying we should quarantine elders for a week man. I’ve lost one set of grandparents to pneumonia. I think we should protect those who need it.

@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@FarmerJayhawk ever read the boy who cried wolf? The more this happens and turns out to be not as serious, less and less will take it seriously. I’m really mad and not trying be a jerk but I still think this is getting a super crazy. I will agree to disagree with anyone my friend.

Of course. I think a disease that kills 1% of people it infects with hundreds of possible new cases every day is pretty serious, but that’s just me.

@kjayhawks

I hear your frustrations. I've definitely illustrated my skepticism in these blogs.

But we have a crisis now and have to come together and focus on what we need to do now. It's a crisis in medical, financial and other areas.

The most important thing for all of us to do now is to look around us at the ones we love and evaluate their risk in this. Elderly and those with immune issues need to be protected. Do what you need to do... limit these people from human contact with others and then use social distancing, masks and gloves and a clean environment to help reduce risk.

Help build their immunity with consumption of black elderberry, antioxidants (like blueberries), vitamin C, etc.

@FarmerJayhawk once again Flu and pneumonia are similar statically.

I’m gonna get off of here, I apologize if people think I don’t care, I do. I’m just not sold my friends. Everyone be safe!!

@kjayhawks

You have expressed frustrations we all feel. Stay connected.

@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@jayballer73 I posted that on the wrong thread my friend, my apologies.

no we good no need to apologize it's just that some people who feel they are over reacting making to much out of this - - most of those are one's that basically have no need to worry. If they would listen to these athletes from ALL SPORTS they are all in agreement . David Price said reporting to camp in base ball said to a reporter on his way in - - -IT HAS TO HAPPEN referring to them suspending their activities , he said, I've got 2 kids -people saying they over reacting - -authorities have come out and said this is TEN TIMES - - -TEN TIMES as deadly as any dam flu. - it's already mutated once.They have said a person could be tested and have such a mild case they could come back negative and still have the virus and continue to carry the virus and infect others

They are talking about how institutins may very well making the NCAA'S decision for them Like KU - -DUKE and some other institutions cancelling all activities and by doing so saying to the NCAA if there is a tourney - - -were not playing taking into consideration instead of play. - - I'm biased - -I would love for it to be played BUT this is the right decision. People wanna say they over reacting and to those people I SAY well YOUR under reacting

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Smart to keep a lid on this thing lest we become Italy. Can’t disagree with Long and Girod, though of course I’m horribly disappointed for Doke, Dot, Moss, and the rest of the crew who won’t get a chance to prove how good they were on the biggest stage.

@FarmerJayhawk

It's been tough for me to pull away from games whether there is a crowd or not.

But I've come around to thinking it is best to cancel. It's really about protecting those at risk. I am spending a big chunk of my time now creating a safer environment around my loved ones at risk.

I think the debate will be hard to resolve. Even more of a challenge in the future when we look at things retrospectively.

If the curve flattens and the epidemic in the US turns out to be not as deadly and, instead have an impact that is similar to the common flu, the public health officials will see it as evidence the response was a success and skeptics will see it as evidence that it was overblown and a whole bunch of hooey.

@kjayhawks There's two things going on here. Sporting bodies are not caving to media pressure by cancelling or postponing events, they are listening to groups like the CDC and WHO and following their advice.

The people going out and buying multiple years with of TP and other sanitation products are the ones buying into the media fear mongering.

Pushing pause on life for 2-3 weeks to slow down the spread of this disease is a reasonable measure in this case based on what happened in Italy.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@kjayhawks There's two things going on here. Sporting bodies are not caving to media pressure by cancelling or postponing events, they are listening to groups like the CDC and WHO and following their advice.

The people going out and buying multiple years with of TP and other sanitation products are the ones buying into the media fear mongering.

Pushing pause on life for 2-3 weeks to slow down the spread of this disease is a reasonable measure in this case based on what happened in Italy.

Agree with the caveat that the people hoarding TP may be victims of anxiety disorders as much as it could be the media. I tend to not blame the media for every stupid thing that people do.. just like I don't blame video games for mass murders, cars for car accidents.. guns, etc..

That said, not all media outlets practice responsible journalism and certainly provoke emotions.. which quickly becomes fear for those who are susceptible.

I'll take some flack for this because not everyone shares my beliefs. Here's what it boils down to for me personally.

Psalm 64:1 Hear my voice, O God, in my meditation;
Preserve my life from fear of the enemy.

This applies to this and so many other things in the world. It's not about the actual "enemy" (coronavirus, in this instance) - it's about the FEAR of the enemy. The actual enemy is never as big as the fear of it, no matter what it is.

OK, you can start bashing me now.

@nuleafjhawk said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

I'll take some flack for this because not everyone shares my beliefs. Here's what it boils down to for me personally.

Psalm 64:1 Hear my voice, O God, in my meditation;
Preserve my life from fear of the enemy.

This applies to this and so many other things in the world. It's not about the actual "enemy" (coronavirus, in this instance) - it's about the FEAR of the enemy. The actual enemy is never as big as the fear of it, no matter what it is.

OK, you can start bashing me now.

I think that's fair. Right now it's hard to disentangle the impacts of the fear of the virus vs the actual virus.

The markets are all about speculation. The steep drop is partly — maybe mostly — a reflection of fear.

The actual impact of the virus is people missing work, racking up medial costs, causing some deaths... etc.

If they want to make an actual impact stoppage of a few basketball games isn’t it. That’s just optics. All flights need to be stopped. All public transportation needs to stop. Ban groups of over 100 - sucks for bigger businesses as they won’t even be able to run right. Stop all inter-state traffic. Don’t allow people into or out of areas with known infection. Etc.

Cancelling games is window dressing and frankly a bunch of crap unless it’s just the start of something more sweeping.

@bskeet said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@nuleafjhawk said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

I'll take some flack for this because not everyone shares my beliefs. Here's what it boils down to for me personally.

Psalm 64:1 Hear my voice, O God, in my meditation;
Preserve my life from fear of the enemy.

This applies to this and so many other things in the world. It's not about the actual "enemy" (coronavirus, in this instance) - it's about the FEAR of the enemy. The actual enemy is never as big as the fear of it, no matter what it is.

OK, you can start bashing me now.

I think that's fair. Right now it's hard to disentangle the impacts of the fear of the virus vs the actual virus.

The markets are all about speculation. The steep drop is partly — maybe mostly — a reflection of fear.

The actual impact of the virus is people missing work, racking up medial costs, causing some deaths... etc.

I'm not going to bash you my friend. - your totally fine, we all have our stances - -we just pull together now and make it through this together

Well they were talking to the Iowa Coach McCaffery ? - was asking him if he thought or had heard of a time frame where they just might postpone the tourney - play in a couple of Months. He said nothing for sure but said if they might try he said he had heard from a couple of other Coach's - -and yes a possibility of re-scheduling for MAY. - -Said there would have to be a lot go into re-planning getting things sit -but you JUSTNEVE KNOW - they said though you need facilities to be availibilty - College players concentrating on their NBA future

@jayballer73 Hey, KU might be healthy by then!

Three new cases of Corona here in Kansas all from Johnson County - -all men from 35-65 - -contacted from a conference in Florida

@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@jayballer73 Hey, KU might be healthy by then!

YAY , there is a possibility maybe a little better then what some might think - -but yet having said that probably won't

May madness...now that is insane.

@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

May madness...now that is insane.

May Madness™

Hey-- you better get the TM on that now. You know how the NCAA is about things like that!

@bskeet Yeah totally. I'm on a group text with a concert promoter, a project manager at a major movie theater company, a lawyer, a non-profit employee, and a film editor, and just about all of them are voicing fears about the immediate future of their employment and livelihood. Those fears are very real but also hard to gauge the true future impact of this pandemic. Most of us in that text thread have purchased houses within the last 5 years and are still paying mortgages, two couples have kids under 1 who require daycare. And while you might say why would they pay for day care if they have to stay home, well, don't pay for day care in a city like Austin and watch that spot disappear.

I'm certainly not going to bash what I think is a pretty sound observation that fear of a thing is usually worse than the thing itself.

I’m sure some of you heard the Texas players were quite concerned about Andrew Jones - name right? The player that had cancer who has a compromised immune system. Maybe that should help us think of others for those of us that can’t do that!

@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

If they want to make an actual impact stoppage of a few basketball games isn’t it. That’s just optics. All flights need to be stopped. All public transportation needs to stop. Ban groups of over 100 - sucks for bigger businesses as they won’t even be able to run right. Stop all inter-state traffic. Don’t allow people into or out of areas with known infection. Etc.

Cancelling games is window dressing and frankly a bunch of crap unless it’s just the start of something more sweeping.

Sports is often the catalyst for social issues in this country rightly or wrongly. The hopeful effect of this will be that without sports around, people will take heed of the warnings given by the CDC and WHO and not flippantly dismiss them because it doesn't directly affect them. They'll see people that are generally considered invincible because of the health and conditioning most athletes are in taking precautions and realize they need to as well.

Rudy Gobert's story has really pissed me off since it came out that he'd been very dismissive of it and making light of the situation and now he has it and spread it to at least 1 teammate and who knows of he spread it to any opponents yet or not

@Texas-Hawk-10 weird he was the one, karma?

@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

If they want to make an actual impact stoppage of a few basketball games isn’t it. That’s just optics. All flights need to be stopped. All public transportation needs to stop. Ban groups of over 100 - sucks for bigger businesses as they won’t even be able to run right. Stop all inter-state traffic. Don’t allow people into or out of areas with known infection. Etc.

Cancelling games is window dressing and frankly a bunch of crap unless it’s just the start of something more sweeping.

That's how they seem to be flattening the curve elsewhere. Exponential growth is hard to wrap a brain around.

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Ready or not here it is. I just hope that fear of the virus is worse than the actual virus.

@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

Ready or not here it is. I just hope that fear of the virus is worse than the actual virus.

New Cases of the Virus in NY jumped by like 110 new cases in a 24 hour period. - went to like 330 now

Ohio authorities estimate 1% of the state is carrying it. That’s almost 120,000 people.

Listening to them talk with Jay Bilas, he is saying that he had been getting quite a few texts within the last 15 minutes and saying they would be all in favor of POSTPONING the tourney not Cancel.

Like Postponing for like a Month and then seeing where we are at and if no change or thing like that then Cancel

It's over. https://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/media-center/news/ncaa-cancels-remaining-winter-and-spring-championships ↗

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ESPN says NCAA cancelled the tournament. Let's wait a hot minute and see if that is accurate.

Welp so much for that. NCAA just announced all winter sports are Cancelled - -not postponed - - FRICK - they were just talking to Mark Few when this came in and he said he was extremely disappointed - -that they Cancelled not Postponed

@bskeet said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

ESPN says NCAA cancelled the tournament. Let's wait a hot minute and see if that is accurate.

it is

Way Coach Few sure sounds like from the Coach's he talked to today , they are truly disappointed about Cancelling instead of Postponing

This just Sucks for Doke - -Devon

@jayballer73 Yeah.. I heard it too. Just seems premature to make such a drastic decision.

@bskeet It is, NCAA declared cancellation.

Gosh. I see the announcement now. Fudge.

@bskeet It's official. It's cancelled. Not sure if you heard.

Well, it's been a pretty satisfying season with yet another unsatisfying ending. Are we cursed?

So, is anyone thinking KU should have just caved and accepted a postseason ban this year?

@bskeet said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@jayballer73 Yeah.. I heard it too. Just seems premature to make such a drastic decision.

Jay Bilas is talking about a possible reason for cancellation could be due to contractual and insurance issues the NCAA has.

Another probable factor would be the logistics of trying to rebook venues in a couple of months down the road when many of those venues are also probably going to be trying to squeeze in NBA and NHL games as well.

We are all going to wonder for the rest of our lives whether this was the year we win it, Selfs second championship. What if, what if, what if. We had a pretty damn good shot this year didn’t we? Great defense, best point guard, arguably best big man, a well-balanced well coached core of team guys. And it wasn’t like there was another monster NCAA team that were better really.

What stunningly incredible bad luck. We will get through this virus, but it will take a few months probably, then hopefully we are wiser about epidemics, and can get on with our lives again. But we will always always wonder what if.

@mayjay said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

So, is anyone thinking KU should have just caved and accepted a postseason ban this year?

Hell no, KU needs to raise a national championship banner for this year since we were the unanimous #1 ranked team in the final poll this season. Give the NCAA a middle finger since there's no chance in hell the NCAA wouldn't have the balls to declare Kansas and South Carolina the men's and women's national champions this season.

Leave it to the NCAA to make a decision that is questioned and criticized by many people.

I mean, look at all the other organizations that have made decisions in the last 24 hours which seem to be universally supported.. And then the NCAA does this.

This title feels so damn empty. I feel so shitty for all the seniors that worked so hard to get to this point and now it’s just... over. Goes for baseball, softball, track, basketball. The NCAA should do the right thing and give them all an extra year if they want and waive the scholarship cap for a year so no HS kids get left out in the cold.

They could have moved the midwest regional to AFH. It's been hosted there in the past. I think they could have found the venues.. but yeah, media contracts and the insurance liability... I'm sure it's all very intricate. But super disappointing.

@FarmerJayhawk said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

This title feels so damn empty. I feel so shitty for all the seniors that worked so hard to get to this point and now it’s just... over. Goes for baseball, softball, track, basketball. The NCAA should do the right thing and give them all an extra year if they want and waive the scholarship cap for a year so no HS kids get left out in the cold.

100% agree with this. Also a great way to get a lot of athletes started in masters programs as well if they did something like this.

Another heartbreaking story is Doke. The only way he was going to get to see his mom this spring was if KU reached the Final Four and could pay for his mom to fly in from Nigeria. I'd love to see the NCAA waive this rule for a one time exception and allow KU to fly Doke's mom in for his graduation.

@bskeet said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

They could have moved the midwest regional to AFH. It's been hosted there in the past. I think they could have found the venues.. but yeah, media contracts and the insurance liability... I'm sure it's all very intricate. But super disappointing.

Hotel capacity in Lawrence is why AFH doesn't host games anymore. As many fans that travel to the NCAA Tournament now, cities that host games have to have the hotel space and Lawrence doesn't have the hotel space. That's a big part of the postponement issue as well.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

Another heartbreaking story is Doke. The only way he was going to get to see his mom this spring was if KU reached the Final Four and could pay for his mom to fly in from Nigeria. I'd love to see the NCAA waive this rule for a one time exception and allow KU to fly Doke's mom in for his graduation.

Hope KU still has it!

@Bosthawk I posted on here a few days ago that, for the first time in my life, I believed we would win it all if we stayed healthy. Healthy, meaning not injured. I haven't seen a team anywhere that could stay with us with a healthy Doke and Dotson.

I'm pretty sure the NCAA invented this virus to keep KU out of the limelight. (not really, but it feels good to say it)

The men's and women's basketball tournaments have been canceled.

Another potential issue with postponing the NCAA Tournament is how many teams would be missing players because of those players focusing on the NBA Draft at that point. Would Doke and Dotson play at that point in May or would they already be off campus at some training facility getting prepared for the NBA Draft Combine.

There's just too many factors involved to feasibly host the NCAA Tournament in May.

Disney is shutting down Disneyland in California until the end of the month. We're going to end up like Italy in shutting down the country at this point to slow the rate of infection and not overwhelm our healthcare facilities.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

Disney is shutting down Disneyland in California until the end of the month. We're going to end up like Italy in shutting down the country at this point to slow the rate of infection and not overwhelm our healthcare facilities.

hate to say it - - but your right my friend , just sucks gonna be almost a stand still, STILL gonna get worse with more cases and deaths - - period

Now 1400 cases of Corona and 37 deaths

Several school districts here in Houston have started postponing classes for the next week.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

Several school districts here in Houston have started postponing classes for the next week.

All of Ohio down for the next few weeks. Chapel Hill-Carrboro will postpone starting Monday.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

Several school districts here in Houston have started postponing classes for the next week.

don't doubt that at all. -- I was telling friends that here in Kansas our Public Schools are all going to follow suit too, following our State Univerisities lead , with suspending class. -- Had a Statement come out where the upper ups were saying they were leaving it to the individual districts about how to go - - such as it read shortening classes , suspending class closing and such - - it's coming

And now pretty much every district in the Houston area that isn't on spring break next week will be closed for the week.

These wounds will fester. 1994 the White Sox were one of several favorites to win the World Series. The group of owners, including the Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf forced the lockout to happen. No world series. Major bummer, still sucks. Frank Thomas' best shot at winning a ring. Technically he got one in 2005 but was hurt. Of course a big difference is the entire team comes back the next season. We won't see Dok or Dotson again. Combined with the potential sanctions this is a bitter pill.

@FarmerJayhawk said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

Ohio authorities estimate 1% of the state is carrying it. That’s almost 120,000 people.

This should sink in: Ohio officials estimate is that 120,000 are infected and contagious, but only have 5 confirmed cases.

For every confirmed case, there are about 20,000 infected.

There are more than 1000 confirmed cases in the US right now. That works out to 20 million infected in the US -- using Ohio as the estimate. That's about 15% of the population or 1 out of 6-7 people that you and I know.

Well, I made the fatal mistake of checking in on other teams Boards, seeing what they were having to say about the Cancellation of the NCAA tournament - - I should of known better ,.

As usual Kentucky greater then though fans had their comments : - - Opened up their thread and BOOM very 1st one, about Corona? - - Oh hell now it was : - Well we lost three on the win total and then showing the graphic of their winds to KU's All time wins - nothing to do about what caused Cancellation - -I swear to God.

@nd one I saw : Will Kansas hag a COVID 19 Banner? , -- then says WHEW for once we didn't blow a 18 point lead ( help me please WHAT? ) what the hell is that suppose to be referring to ? and then says going to hang next to the Helm's bread wrappers- -see funny huh?

People say we as KU fans have a paranoia about UK - - ummm NEWS FLASH - -you might wanna switch that - this crap is crazy - -all kinds of things going on and they want to spend their time worry about poor little KU. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@jayballer73 18 point lead I believe was the tre Burk Michigan game.

@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@jayballer73 18 point lead I believe was the tre Burk Michigan game.

ahh , ya from you bringing that up NOW ya I remember that ,so probably so.

Just sucks , this I feel was going to be a special year. Our ranking in NET defensively , the combination of Doke & Devon - -now we will have neither , every way I look at it man - -THIS WAS OUR YEAR

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Some fun that Holly Rowe and Doke had this morning at Sprint Center.

Not surprising at this point, but the McDonald's All-American has been canceled now. The game was supposed to be here in Houston and I was planning on going to see Bryce in person, but guess that ain't happening now.

@Texas-Hawk-10 😥 so sad about everything!

On a positive note, my bracket is perfect

@Bosthawk said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

We are all going to wonder for the rest of our lives whether this was the year we win it, Selfs second championship. What if, what if, what if. We had a pretty damn good shot this year didn’t we? Great defense, best point guard, arguably best big man, a well-balanced well coached core of team guys. And it wasn’t like there was another monster NCAA team that were better really.
What stunningly incredible bad luck. We will get through this virus, but it will take a few months probably, then hopefully we are wiser about epidemics, and can get on with our lives again. But we will always always wonder what if.

We have the argument that we have lost the most because we were the odds on favorites. And we will always carry the "what ifs."

But as this moves on I'm feeling pretty good about myself and other Jayhawk fans quickly coming to terms with this situation realizing that human lives trump a basketball game.

We had a damn good season and I'm satisfied with that. We were blessed with some really outstanding games, like the Baylor game in Waco.

I'm already thinking about next season and I'm wondering if we will be over this virus by November.

How long has KU Buckets been around (I've been a member for only a couple of years)? I mean, man, think about it - nothing to talk about right now, but bad things...

What really pisses me off is it was this year! Last years team sucked why not then?!? Next year KU isn’t likely to be eligible for post season play. I’m super bummed our boys best chance in years was robbed.

Will 2019-20 NCAA champions be crowned in college basketball and other sports whose championships were canceled?

The NCAA hasn't provided a definitive answer on this, but it's difficult to envision anything beside a simple "no." College football crowned a champion based on polls for a number of years, so Kansas and South Carolina would win titles in men's and women's basketball if the NCAA decided to do it that way -- but that seems unlikely. In all likelihood, there's going to be a blank line in the college sports annals next to 2019-20.

-- Jeff Borzello

yes sir - -what chaps my ass is THIS WAS OUR YEAR. - so we get screwed this year get nothing and then next year -- more likely then not we are going to be in a post season ban from the tourney - -yippee

Why did the NCAA cancel its championships rather than explore postponements, particularly in men's and women's basketball?

The NCAA was believed to be exploring options for postponement throughout the day on Thursday, but several logistical hurdles prevented this from being a viable option.

A growing number of universities around the country are closing for the foreseeable future due to this worldwide pandemic, so the lack of a defined timetable to return to campus would put the NCAA in a bind. It's hard to send an entire campus home for a month, bring students back, have the teams practice for a week or two and then hope to start an NCAA tournament. And that's not even accounting for the ability to secure arenas, secure travel and identify television programming windows for men's and women's basketball in particular. It's a great idea in theory, but not great in practice.

There's simply a calendar issue, too. In men's and women's basketball in particular, many players without remaining eligibility would be pursuing their professional options or attempting to start their post-basketball careers. The NBA is able to delay things for a few weeks and reassess, because it's able to extend its season into the middle of the summer with no issue. It's likely impossible to do that in any college sport, particularly one expected to end in March or early April.

-- Jeff Borzello

Allow me to answer this for you Borzello - Because the media was calling out the NCAA as dragging its feet. This forced the NCAA to cancel the tournament instead of using a couple days to fully explore all options.

perhaps but he does have a point i mentioned on here somewhere. The players can't practice can't even stay together. Some of the players will have summer commitments like internships for their post college employment that if they blow off could affect them down the road. Most venues are booked months in advance if not years. Just what group loses their scheduled activities f the tourney dates are moved?

About the only viable path forward i could see would be to cancel round by round with the higher seeds moving up hoping as time goes on you could get the round of 8 or perhaps just the final 4 played somehow. While for the 1 seeds that would be a great deal for the other 60 teams it would be even more heartbreaking than canceling.

The tournament is a major logistics accomplishment and trying to move it would be a major event that in itself would take months to arrange.

Small venues? No crowds? Nba is practicing

@dylans There were no other options. Every sports organization realized this after the NBA guy tested positive. If there had been a reliable projection of how long the virus would continue to increase spreading, options could have been discussed. But with China taking 3 months to control the spread, the most reasonable projections are several months away. That is way beyond the ability of the NCAA to schedule anything, and then meanwhile schools would have to continue to house teams somehow while graduating athletes would normally be moving on to careers. All with the possibility of it crashing down when even one teams gets quarantined.

It happened. Life goes on--fortunately.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

Small venues? No crowds? Nba is practicing

might be practicing but the commissioner was saying today if they have to postpone season for 6 weeks then so be it. Actually they are discourgaging players to practice together. - -working out fine but practice together - -not so much

It happened. Life goes on--fortunately.

It’s not - that’s why a distraction would be fantastic.

@jayballer73 I don't think the NBA is going to have a season this year.

@kjayhawks Really? Who did you have winning it? What was the score?

NBA is completely different from NCAA.

NBA has agency and player's union. We shouldn't look at these two groups and expect everything to go the same.

And their leagues are structured totally different for venues, insurances, etc. There are several unions involved concerning any issue with the NBA.

There should be no more talk about postseason bans for Kansas. It should end here.

@approxinfinity I agree but the NCAA won’t - everyone got the same punishment and KU was the “only” cheater.

I think the NCAA will back the f down after this. Nobody is going to be calling for bloodletting. BC (Before Coronavirus) vs AD (After Da Coronavirus)

This sucks, wife doesn’t want to go with the kiddos and this stuff going around. It’s raining so we just sitting inside with no sports to watch. 2020 officially sucks

@drgnslayr It actually looks intimidating...We have the Truth, the Process, and Doke can become the Intimidator of college basketball. Not to barrow Dale Earnhardt Sr. from NASCAR. Could you imagine driving the lane only to meet Doke with a face mask?

@Kubie Sorry, all cancelled. Your life is cancelled. You are confined to house quarantine. I hope I'm sounding pathetic, because as serious as this is, I believe it's reached some ridiculous proportions.

In fact, I think we should cancel this entire website...ok, maybe not. But exaggeration is always great when trying to make a ridiculous point. Plus, I'm going through bball withdrawals. I think this is a pandemic in and of itself. I think there are proven symptoms for college bball withdrawls. I'm experiencing many of them and more to come.

Maybe NCAA Classics? I can pretend I'm seeing it for the first time.

I dont want to waste my time commenting on the lack of leadership from the NCAA, especially at the top.

@Texas-Hawk-10 Plus he went and played bball with one of the local high schools here in the OKC area, Del City HS too. Apparently, he touched all the recording devices during a pre-game interview to make a point all well before his pre-game tip diagnosis. But, he was cleared a few days after his diagnosis.

@approxinfinity said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

I think the NCAA will back the f down after this. Nobody is going to be calling for bloodletting. BC (Before Coronavirus) vs AD (After Da Coronavirus)

I want to believe, but I'm leaning toward the belief that the NCAA will readdress this as soon as they get back to business as usual. The only thing that might change that is if this rocks the institution -- say the power 5 conferences decide to confer with each other and hold their own tournament of 16 in May and do it for charity and compensate the players in some way. It sets a precedent of revenue generation and sharing and erodes the NCAA's authority... and it starts to establish a new standard..

I thought it threw, this is worse than having Christmas canceled

@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

I thought it threw, this is worse than having Christmas canceled

still not as bad as St Paddy's day though lol

@jayballer73 I’m Irish and I don’t care about St. Patrick’s Day lol.

@kjayhawks said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@jayballer73 I’m Irish and I don’t care about St. Patrick’s Day lol.

Ya I am too - -Mom's maiden name is McMahan - - lmao - - imagine that. Can't get much more Irish then that. - -But you know I'ma teasin playin - -huge loss I feel so empty lol

Hey, can anyone spare a few squares of toilet paper?

I have a great idea (now hear me out!)... Let's create shortages of things by buying up all of the the things that we think there might be shortages on.... On a personal not, I have tp, was just making my point.

Does this end KU's tournament streak? What about a team like UNC who wasn't going to make the tournament anyway, does it end their streak? It would be nice if the NCAA just released the 68 teams that made the tournament for that reason.

@KirkIsMyHinrich Cannot miss a tournament that was not held. Our streak will just be measured in consecutive tournaments not years.

@KirkIsMyHinrich ironically that means unc tournament steak goes on. They get a mulligan for this year. Perfect for them. The yin to our yang.

@dylans said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@KirkIsMyHinrich ironically that means unc tournament steak goes on. They get a mulligan for this year. Perfect for them. The yin to our yang.

Chalk it up as another in a long line of strange connections between KU and UNC.

@truehawk93 said in NCAA Tournament: Should it happen?:

@Kubie Sorry, all cancelled. Your life is cancelled. You are confined to house quarantine. I hope I'm sounding pathetic, because as serious as this is, I believe it's reached some ridiculous proportions.

I am actually in a hotel in Charlotte I only wish I was confined to my house!!

Work trip, for some dang reason I'm considered an essential employee you'd think they'd know better by now. Airports are about dead, you could see from one end of ATL term C to the other it was so empty. Now they have shut down dine in at all restaurants but door dash and the rest are up and going for the most part.

I will admit to being more cautious then normal and practicing good hygiene is never a bad idea.

@jayballer73 They can take away our basketball, but they can't take our BEER

@Kubie It has gotten increasingly worse within the last 48-72 hrs.

@Kubie b safe

We'll be okay, guys. That's what we do, right? We beat things...

Don't read Lunardi's BPI tourney simulation. It will make you puke in the 2nd round, or reading who was the 2nd favorite to win the whole thing. A hint, it rhymes with puke

@truehawk93 Anyone not understanding why shutting down as much contact as possible is necessary needs to read this latest update on Italy at worldometers.com. Flattening the curve is important because not doing so overwhelms a healthcare system, and this happens:

Italy: COVID-19 has infected 2,629 health workers, or 8.3% of the total (more than twice the percentage in China), as of yesterday March 17. In Bergamo (Lombardy region), 118 out of about 600 family doctors (20%) have been infected, and a 65-year-old doctor has died. Today, a 57-year-old doctor has died: he was the secretary of the Federation of General Practitioners of Lodi. A week ago, a 67-year-old family doctor, president of the Varese Medical Association, had died.