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ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 28, 2018 02:00 AM

I don't think anyone has said there is a big time FF contender in the big 12. KU, WVU and perhaps Texas Tech have an outside chance but are realistically S16/EE teams at best. Like you said, it's a balanced league with no truly terrible teams.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 28, 2018 01:57 AM

@DCHawker To me the only truly surprising result was TCU Vandy.

Recruiting Thread • Jan 28, 2018 01:51 AM

BeddieKU23 said:

Lots of CB movement for one time interest Jermaine Couisnard to Frank Martin..

Committed tonight.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 28, 2018 01:40 AM

WVU just putrid on offense for awhile now.

Cunliffe and Bill's Messages to Him • Jan 28, 2018 01:26 AM

HighEliteMajor said:

Garrett passed on a number of opportunities to push his offensive game tonight, but tonight was better. Can't wait to see him next season once DG and Svi are gone.

He might start next year as a "safe" option, we know how much Self likes those. I'm not sure if he will ever be one of our 5 best offensive players even, but he can contribute to winning basketball and certainly be much better than he is on offense now.

Grayson Allen • Jan 28, 2018 01:20 AM

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Maybe he should have taken this advice idk...

Grayson Allen • Jan 28, 2018 12:21 AM

Kcmatt7 said:

@JayHawkFanToo Your hate for LeBron is perplexing.

People hate Brady too. Just comes with being the greatest of all time.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 11:44 PM

Probably have a really close game.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 11:36 PM

truehawk93 said:

Freaky low scoring game in Ames, weird...Not the Clowns we play and know

Tennessee is a top 10 Kenpom team with the #12 adjusted defense. ISU is young. Bad combo.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 11:23 PM

Graham with the smart thought to not take that turnover LOL

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 11:22 PM

Malik went sky high for that rebound. I like where his head is at right now.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 11:17 PM

I was going to complain about this big guy hitting 2 threes but he is a very respectable 35% on the year.

Cunliffe and Bill's Messages to Him • Jan 27, 2018 11:14 PM

Yeah, really not sure why Self plays this Garrett kid. :rolling_eyes:

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 11:07 PM

Friendly reminder that KU was Tyler Davis's dream school.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 11:04 PM

@Kcmatt7 Yeah. I mean of course I'd like the team to be better when Doke isn't in there. This team just might not have the horses though. Being so thin means heavy minutes for all our top guys. Imagine if we signed Ayton instead of Preston......

Grayson Allen • Jan 27, 2018 10:59 PM

approxinfinity said:

I'd think the staff wouldn't recruit Grayson level crazy but we did recruit crazy as recent as Anrio.

Anrio might be crazier. He just wasn't around long enough.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 10:57 PM

Kcmatt7 said:

@BShark Still waiting for this team to find that ability to stomp on it's opponents throat.

Doke sitting with foul trouble is going to be a problem every game. This team has to find a way to push through that. Whether it be DG just getting a killer instinct or switching to a 5 guard lineup where we REALLY stretch the floor and make the defense guard. Something has to happen.

Or, you know if Garrett can become a threat offensively that completely changes the dynamic of this team when Doke goes out.

If this is a close conference game Doke is already back in imo.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 10:47 PM

A&M torching the nets in the 2nd half. Harder to play post D w/ no Doke.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 10:42 PM

Kcmatt7 said:

Big XII looking overrated again... Going to take an OSU upset to win the challenge. Lucky Auburn didn't replace Georgia or Ole Miss. Could be looking at a 4-6 record.

All of the statisticians put too much weight into the beginning of the season non-con records. Easy way to check who has the most talent is to check the most NBA players getting produced. Kansas has produced 16 of he conferences 33 NBA players. Compare that to Duke and the ACC. Duke has 20, but the rest of the ACC produced 69 NBA players. Kentucky has produced 27, but the rest of the SEC still has produced 21.

What this says to me, the Big XII has a good non-con because they have more experience every season. We keep players for 4 years. So we have the advantage at the beginning of the season against less experienced teams from other conferences. But, come March, other teams have leap-frogged the Big XII.

It isn't hard to see the Big XII is not as talented as other conferences. A team should never win 13 conference championships in a row. That alone speaks to the strength of a conference.

SEC teams might not always be great basketball/skill teams, but they ALWAYS have top athletes. Something the B12 can often be lacking outside of typical KU teams and a few guys here and there.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 10:41 PM

Refs missed an easy travel. Probably won't matter, but just terrible.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 10:29 PM

truehawk93 said:

I want to ask Kruger why he didn't resort to fouling bama with a small single digit lead. Almost identical to the KU game.

:angry:

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 10:29 PM

@truehawk93 I'm not a fan either. Can't shoot and all his advanced numbers are pretty bad. TCU will be better by subtraction when he graduates. They also lose their two best players Vlad Brod and Kenrich Williams. I think they might mostly stay the same next year.

@StLJhawk Best defensive effort we have seen out of this team in awhile. Helps that A&M is big/slow though.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 10:22 PM

truehawk93 said:

Vandy pulling away from TCU...so much for the Frogs. Hope they can pull it out.

Losing their PG basically killed their season.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 10:20 PM

Oh a fun halftime stat. KU 10-19 from 3, 6-16 from 2. This team is silly.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 10:19 PM

Beating KU does prolong B12 coaching careers.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 10:16 PM

truehawk93 said:

What's going on in Ames?

ISU getting dumpstered. They can't score at all.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 10:15 PM

MITCCCCCCCCH

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 10:13 PM

SVI going for that HUGE dunk. I like it.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 10:11 PM

SHOT CLOCK VIOLATION FORCED BY THIS TEAM? WHAT AM I SEEING?

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 10:09 PM

As soon as I say it Doke is back in.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 10:09 PM

truehawk93 said:

Can we get my 20+ lead?

Might be tougher with Silvio in there but I am glad he is getting minutes.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 10:06 PM

truehawk93 said:

Silvio????

That block was awesome. Thought for sure A&M was getting pts there.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 10:03 PM

Silvio sighting. :eyes:

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Taking my cute lil gdaughter to her first B.B. game!

Aww. Having lots of fun I bet.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 10:01 PM

truehawk93 said:

Be nice to have a 20+ lead at half and demoralize this TAM team.

Sure would be nice.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 09:52 PM

I'm totally okay with A&M continuing to turn the ball over and Tyler Davis taking jumpers though.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 09:49 PM

truehawk93 said:

I hope a KU win takes the FT factor away. NOPOKEADOKE

We are quicker but they are really tough inside. I think this game stays close. Hopefully Self learned from last time.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 09:33 PM

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Ya but that was early on. They haven't been playing very well lately. I'm worried DJ Hogg is going to make a bunch of 3's, though.

Right on cue.

A&M is only 3 games worse than us and KU has been quite lucky in some wins. If we had a powerhouse team I would feel differently but I think this game will be quite tough.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 09:10 PM

We should have beat OU honestly.

Grayson Allen • Jan 27, 2018 09:10 PM

He also flopped about 50 times today.

Grayson Allen • Jan 27, 2018 09:09 PM

What a little baby. Slapped at a UVA player that tried to help him up near the end of the game today.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 08:56 PM

Purps gonna win.

Recruiting Thread • Jan 27, 2018 06:27 PM

@Jayballer54 It's just commenting on how Duke is ridiculous. KU didn't really recruit Montgomery.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 06:05 PM

@Texas-Hawk-10 I've only actually predicted about 5 losses. I think a lot of people will be surprised by this A&M team. Their record is deceptive.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 05:31 PM

Baylor getting dumpstered by UF. TTU and USC in a tight one.

Izzo: RUH-ROH • Jan 27, 2018 04:52 PM

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VOMIT.

"one of which admitted to raping the victim, neither man was charged criminally or even disciplined by the school."

Cunliffe and Bill's Messages to Him • Jan 27, 2018 04:52 PM

No that is total shots not 2 pointers. So it accounts for both. I guess we will see what happens, but I still don't think he ever plays much.

ok Big 12 / SEC challenge • Jan 27, 2018 04:47 PM

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

I like KU's chances today if Doke can stay on the floor (with the exception of the last few minutes in a tight game). I don't feel good about going to KState, though.

Purps are on a roll.

This A&M team is jekyll and hyde. I feel they will be jazzed up for today. Also they are 2-0 against the B12 already fwiw.