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ok so this year how does it play out? - - Gonna be interesting:

Florida - -over Baylor

Tennessee - -over Iowa State

KU - - Over Texas A & M - - ( Barely ) - -why should things change now.

K-State - - Over Georgia

Oklahoma - over Alabama - again close ( Young vs Sexton ) -Classic

Arkansas - Over Oklahoma St

TCU - -over Vanderbilt

Texas - over Mississippi St

South Carolina - -Over Texas Tech

Kentucky - -over West Virginia ( call me crazy - this might be the upset - I just feel they find a way ) - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

So a 5-5 split? I gotta have more faith in the Big 12 than that. I've got hope for WVU and Tech.

The thing is, can BIll's program afford to drop a second game in a row, a non-league contest, in order to forge some meaningful instructional minutes for his new power forward? That upcoming game at the Octagon of Doom looms awesomely. Graham and Co. need more rest.

Florida over Baylor

Iowa St over Tennessee

KU over Texas A&M (I expect a L, no confidence here just can't pick them to lose)

Tech over USC east

Texas over Ole Miss

K-St over Georgia

OU over Alabama

Vandy over TCU

Arkansas over Ok-St

WVU over Kentucky

7-3 Big-12

@REHawk If it were at A&M I might be inclined to say yes but he won't want to drop another home game. This team needs to get back some of the Phog mystique. A blow out would be nice. Get the crowd going early, get the freshman big 10 minutes and some points. Unfortunately I don't think it will be that easy. Tyler Davis can be a monster down low. He's got moves, soft hands, and a motor. At least he did as a freshman. Hard to figure this team out with some really good early wins and a bunch of weird losses recently.

@benshawks08 hopefully doke doesn't get a quick foul! I'm going to the game! Should be good for the win!

@Crimsonorblue22 My wife and I are going also. We are very excited, first game at the Phog since fall of 2008. Our adult children bought us tickets and hotel room for Christmas.

BeddieKU23 said:

Florida over Baylor

Iowa St over Tennessee

KU over Texas A&M (I expect a L, no confidence here just can't pick them to lose)

Tech over USC east

Texas over Ole Miss

K-St over Georgia

OU over Alabama

Vandy over TCU

Arkansas over Ok-St

WVU over Kentucky

7-3 Big-12

Umm just have to disagree about South Carolina. - -Playing at South Carolina , Tech in a slump , - - losing two out of their last three -to Texas & Iowa State by 18. - Om top of that again South Carolina at home playing pretty good ball recently beating Kentucky - winning @ Florida - -& @ Georgia - -I think it might be a long day for Tech

Iowa State pretty sad - ya I know @ home - but # 22 Tennessee pretty solid.

@Barney romantic!❤️💙🏀🏀

Davis isn't the only big they have that will cause us problems. Robert Williams who turned down the draft to come back has been playing better of late. He's that Jordan Bell type athlete that blocks everything and causes problems. We have nobody to guard him with our 4 guard set. Rebounding will be a huge factor in this one. Read KU has lost the rebounding edge in 9 straight games

@BeddieKU23 maybe Vick will have to step up!

@Jayballer54

Anything can happen in these games. Tech has played poorly adjusting to life without Zach Smith. But South Carolina is no world beater and I think there getting too much praise for beating SEC teams that they know. I think Tech finds a way to win this one

Crimsonorblue22 said:

@BeddieKU23 maybe Vick will have to step up!

Williams has about 50 pounds on him.

They play zone too. We're in for a close one (like always)

@BeddieKU23 we can run on them

Crimsonorblue22 said:

@BeddieKU23 we can run on them

If we force turnovers which has been a big issue for A&M. They have shot the ball poorly from 3 most of the year too. Some gives and takes to how this one might end

Florida over Baylor

Iowa St over Tennessee - I would pick Tennessee but ISU is tough at home

KU over Texas A&M - Motivated KU team ready to show the loss at OU was not how the team rolls.

Tech over SC - Away game for the Tech. but they edge Martin’s team.

Texas over Ole Miss

K-St over Georgia

OU over Alabama

TCU over Vandy - Toss up game but I will give the edge to the frogs who are on a crusade to regain credibility.

Arkansas over Ok-St - Game is at Arkansas so they get the advantage.

WVU over Kentucky - No way, no how this UK team beats Huggy at home. I see the Wildcats being flustered by the press and WVU wins by a bunch. Most one sided game of this year’s challenge.

8-2 Big-12 best case, 6-4 worst case if ISU and TCU lose. Most likely outcome...Big 12 7-3.

I just want Kansas to win. I don't really care too much about conference perception.

I guess I want Kentucky to lose, too.

Missouri isn't participating this year, but I hope they lose to whichever SEC team they're playing.

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

I just want Kansas to win. I don't really care too much about conference perception.

I guess I want Kentucky to lose, too.

Missouri isn't participating this year, but I hope they lose to whichever SEC team they're playing.

Mizzou doesn't need to play. Still a loser any day of the week.

Good call.

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

I just want Kansas to win. I don't really care too much about conference perception.

I guess I want Kentucky to lose, too.

Missouri isn't participating this year, but I hope they lose to whichever SEC team they're playing.

I think we are looking at a 3 game losing streak before rebounding against Oklahoma State.

@BShark You always think this team is losing.

@Jayballer54 You're being too diplomatic 10-0 Big 12!

I like KU's chances today if Doke can stay on the floor (with the exception of the last few minutes in a tight game). I don't feel good about going to KState, though.

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

I like KU's chances today if Doke can stay on the floor (with the exception of the last few minutes in a tight game). I don't feel good about going to KState, though.

Purps are on a roll.

This A&M team is jekyll and hyde. I feel they will be jazzed up for today. Also they are 2-0 against the B12 already fwiw.

Ya but that was early on. They haven't been playing very well lately. I'm worried DJ Hogg is going to make a bunch of 3's, though.

Baylor getting dumpstered by UF. TTU and USC in a tight one.

BShark said:

I think we are looking at a 3 game losing streak before rebounding against Oklahoma State.

So KU is getting ready to lose in Allen Fieldhouse to a team tied for last in the SEC?

Who's peeing in your cereal every morning for you to keep saying KU is going to lose just about every game this year?

@Texas-Hawk-10 I've only actually predicted about 5 losses. I think a lot of people will be surprised by this A&M team. Their record is deceptive.

@KirkIsMyHinrich I'm expecting close since it's at AFH, as strange as it is to write that sentence! Therefore, it will be interesting to see how they handle Doke's PT down the stretch. As someone pointed out this game is sort of like an exhibition game (although tournament seedings are still at stake) so some experimenting may be done with Doke's usage.

wissox said:

@Jayballer54 You're being too diplomatic 10-0 Big 12!

psssssssssssssssssssssssssst - -- please lmao- -let me have some of that your drinking roflmmfao - -OH psssssssst just a little quick FYI - -good old Baylor getting their ass KICKED - so now I got to try and figure how you still get 10-0 - that was funny though in all seriousness. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark At this point in the season, their record isn't deceiving. They're 6-7 since December started and 0 quality wins in that time frame. They looked like a Final Four team in November, but haven't done anything since then.

Tech with an early win against South Carolina, Baylor looking more and more like a NIT team falls to Florida. Bunch of tight games early as KSU battles Georgia, OU vs Bama and Texas vs Ole Miss.

OU getting kicked early at Alabama. Took a break from Big 12 games and was watching a little of the UVA Duke game. UVA plays some tough defense. Bunch of guys I've never heard of ..........reminds me of the line in the movie Major League..."Who are these f-----g guys?" That Bennett can coach.

@Hawk8086

Nice win for Tech, they closed the game with a great run against a solid SC team. OU will bounce back in the second half. I don’t expect much from Drew or Smart and they don’t disappoint.

Faylor only B12 loss so far.

OU struggling against Bama. Looks like Kruger and Co learned some offense from KU utilizing their bigs more.

Kitty Kats struggling against Georgia.

Once again, we are the B12 and anything is possible.

@truehawk93

Two bad turnovers by Young.

Purps gonna win.

KSU wins and Texas well ahead. OU in a deep hole.

Young can be contained with tough, hard defense.

We should have beat OU honestly.

@BShark Of course we should have, in fact, we did have them beat...all but beat. It was a W, but it just slipped our hands.

3-2 B12 one game win at this point?

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Ya but that was early on. They haven't been playing very well lately. I'm worried DJ Hogg is going to make a bunch of 3's, though.

Right on cue.

I hope a KU win takes the FT factor away. NOPOKEADOKE

Who’s calling game?

@Crimsonorblue22 Officially or ESPN?

truehawk93 said:

I hope a KU win takes the FT factor away. NOPOKEADOKE

We are quicker but they are really tough inside. I think this game stays close. Hopefully Self learned from last time.

Whos this Vick guy?

I'm totally okay with A&M continuing to turn the ball over and Tyler Davis taking jumpers though.

@truehawk93 ESPN

Welcome back Lagerald Vick and HOW DO YOU DO?

KU needs to throttle down

Need to tighten up on D...need stops to build half time lead

Be nice to have a 20+ lead at half and demoralize this TAM team.

Let's get Doke involved early and draw some fouls. Get him on the line now to get rid of the FT voodoo

truehawk93 said:

Be nice to have a 20+ lead at half and demoralize this TAM team.

Sure would be nice.

@BShark But keep the throttle down through the final buzzer.

Silvio sighting. :eyes:

Garrett 2 and Doke 1 PF

Uh, where did Vick go?

Silvio????

truehawk93 said:

Silvio????

That block was awesome. Thought for sure A&M was getting pts there.

What's a Tonny Trocha-Morelos? No offense, but name too long for bball...TMore?

Can we get my 20+ lead?

truehawk93 said:

Can we get my 20+ lead?

Might be tougher with Silvio in there but I am glad he is getting minutes.

As soon as I say it Doke is back in.

@BShark Perfect game for him to get mins actually.

Aren't we at use or lose it time out?

SHOT CLOCK VIOLATION FORCED BY THIS TEAM? WHAT AM I SEEING?

I think DG knows my wish, but he needs to make the trey, not miss.

SVI going for that HUGE dunk. I like it.

15-18 pt lead will work at half

TCU neck and neck with Vandy

What's going on in Ames?

MITCCCCCCCCH

@BShark MEEEEOTCH

truehawk93 said:

What's going on in Ames?

ISU getting dumpstered. They can't score at all.

@BShark They are the dumpster in Ames today....GEESH

@BShark Found my 20 pt lead....DANG

This is what pisses me off about the B12. They crap an egg against other teams, and then play KU like their season depends on it.........wait.......their season does depend on beating KU.

Beating KU does prolong B12 coaching careers.

Oh a fun halftime stat. KU 10-19 from 3, 6-16 from 2. This team is silly.

Vandy pulling away from TCU...so much for the Frogs. Hope they can pull it out.

truehawk93 said:

Vandy pulling away from TCU...so much for the Frogs. Hope they can pull it out.

Losing their PG basically killed their season.

@BShark Robinson just not good. They were actually starting to hit the pg cylinder with Fisher. He was really coming on strong too.

@BShark TAM seems to be worse since going to the SEC. They were actually competitive in the B12.

I want to ask Kruger why he didn't resort to fouling bama with a small single digit lead. Almost identical to the KU game.

@truehawk93 I'm not a fan either. Can't shoot and all his advanced numbers are pretty bad. TCU will be better by subtraction when he graduates. They also lose their two best players Vlad Brod and Kenrich Williams. I think they might mostly stay the same next year.

truehawk93 said:

I want to ask Kruger why he didn't resort to fouling bama with a small single digit lead. Almost identical to the KU game.

:angry:

I thought tcu looked really good last game, forgot who they played

Wish u all were here

@Crimsonorblue22 I was at the OU game in Norman. I live in the OKC area. I was sick after that game and PISSED at Kruger.

I don't care what people say. Yes you can foul and yes intentionally, but again, didn't say much for his coaching or his team's ability. He was flat beat too.

Big XII looking overrated again... Going to take an OSU upset to win the challenge. Lucky Auburn didn't replace Georgia or Ole Miss. Could be looking at a 4-6 record.

All of the statisticians put too much weight into the beginning of the season non-con records. Easy way to check who has the most talent is to check the most NBA players getting produced. Kansas has produced 16 of he conferences 33 NBA players. Compare that to Duke and the ACC. Duke has 20, but the rest of the ACC produced 69 NBA players. Kentucky has produced 27, but the rest of the SEC still has produced 21.

What this says to me, the Big XII has a good non-con because they have more experience every season. We keep players for 4 years. So we have the advantage at the beginning of the season against less experienced teams from other conferences. But, come March, other teams have leap-frogged the Big XII.

It isn't hard to see the Big XII is not as talented as other conferences. A team should never win 13 conference championships in a row. That alone speaks to the strength of a conference.

DG slumping a bit?

Refs missed an easy travel. Probably won't matter, but just terrible.

Kcmatt7 said:

Big XII looking overrated again... Going to take an OSU upset to win the challenge. Lucky Auburn didn't replace Georgia or Ole Miss. Could be looking at a 4-6 record.

All of the statisticians put too much weight into the beginning of the season non-con records. Easy way to check who has the most talent is to check the most NBA players getting produced. Kansas has produced 16 of he conferences 33 NBA players. Compare that to Duke and the ACC. Duke has 20, but the rest of the ACC produced 69 NBA players. Kentucky has produced 27, but the rest of the SEC still has produced 21.

What this says to me, the Big XII has a good non-con because they have more experience every season. We keep players for 4 years. So we have the advantage at the beginning of the season against less experienced teams from other conferences. But, come March, other teams have leap-frogged the Big XII.

It isn't hard to see the Big XII is not as talented as other conferences. A team should never win 13 conference championships in a row. That alone speaks to the strength of a conference.

SEC teams might not always be great basketball/skill teams, but they ALWAYS have top athletes. Something the B12 can often be lacking outside of typical KU teams and a few guys here and there.

A&M torching the nets in the 2nd half. Harder to play post D w/ no Doke.

@BShark Still waiting for this team to find that ability to stomp on it's opponents throat.

Doke sitting with foul trouble is going to be a problem every game. This team has to find a way to push through that. Whether it be DG just getting a killer instinct or switching to a 5 guard lineup where we REALLY stretch the floor and make the defense guard. Something has to happen.

Or, you know if Garrett can become a threat offensively that completely changes the dynamic of this team when Doke goes out.

Kcmatt7 said:

@BShark Still waiting for this team to find that ability to stomp on it's opponents throat.

Doke sitting with foul trouble is going to be a problem every game. This team has to find a way to push through that. Whether it be DG just getting a killer instinct or switching to a 5 guard lineup where we REALLY stretch the floor and make the defense guard. Something has to happen.

Or, you know if Garrett can become a threat offensively that completely changes the dynamic of this team when Doke goes out.

If this is a close conference game Doke is already back in imo.

@BShark This has been a pretty loosely called game though. Doke could have easily been in foul trouble 5 minutes into the game.

Fall down it’s an automatic foul

@Kcmatt7 Yeah. I mean of course I'd like the team to be better when Doke isn't in there. This team just might not have the horses though. Being so thin means heavy minutes for all our top guys. Imagine if we signed Ayton instead of Preston......

Friendly reminder that KU was Tyler Davis's dream school.

@BShark Even Mitchell Robinson... Would have gotten cleared after Braxton Beverly did the same thing to transfer to NC State.

Can't blame him though. By all appearances, his draft stock hasn't dropped at all.

11 pt lead with 6:00 mins? Here we go...foul time...hahaha

Doke FT= DUNK...haha FOUL THIS

DG in a little slump, but better this game than the next.

GIve TAM credit for fighting and hanging.

Guys closing out fairly well...

I was going to complain about this big guy hitting 2 threes but he is a very respectable 35% on the year.

Take care of ball, manage clock, and make FT

Malik went sky high for that rebound. I like where his head is at right now.

Newman 1-2 FTs and Graham loses ball...ok...fortunately the lead allowed the miss and the TO.

Graham with the smart thought to not take that turnover LOL

Freaky low scoring game in Ames, weird...Not the Clowns we play and know

Let's see what WVU can do against UK

I am supportive of a "Go Fund Me" account to send @Crimsonorblue22 to all remaining home games!

truehawk93 said:

Freaky low scoring game in Ames, weird...Not the Clowns we play and know

Tennessee is a top 10 Kenpom team with the #12 adjusted defense. ISU is young. Bad combo.

Great game for UVA in Cameron...great win

@BShark If #22 can go into Ames and win like that, what will KU do at around #5?

Probably have a really close game.

What's the conference challenge score right now?

@truehawk93 KU should’ve stomped ISU in AFH but didn’t, it’s never easy on the road if you’re Kansas especially in Ames.

Yep...mystery why KU can't take care of business. Actually even with the loss at OU, they have been playing on the road fairly well.

@truehawk93 we have played better on the road than at home to this point. Even at OU we controlled about 25 minutes of the game and crapped it away at the line.

Faylor - L

TCU - L

ISU - L

OU - L

KU - W

KSU - W

UT - W

TT - W

Need Pokes and WVU to get wins.

@truehawk93 The most disappointing performance was TCU...Vandy was like 7-13 for gosh sakes.

WVU just putrid on offense for awhile now.

TCU should have won, OSU had several chances to win and could not score, two critical TOS by Young handed the game to Alabama. West Virginia desperately trying to give the game away with a little help from the refs; two of the fouls on Konate were pure BS, even Bilas took a time out from sucking up to UK to criticize the refs.

@truehawk93 OSU lost and WVU may go down. And, it's not just that the B12 may go 4-6 against the SEC (at best 5-5) - it's arguably worse than that. ISU and Baylor got absolutely spanked. TCU lost to a lousy Vandy team. OU lost to an average Alabama team. Not a single B12 win was a dominant - TX and KU the biggest margins.

The question is what does this augur for the tournament? I know there is a lot of passionate debate about this, but this notion that the B12 is the best conference (by Kenpom or RPI) is flawed - the B12 is the most balanced conference, and there are no bad teams (ISU on the brink). And, the B12 teams had a great non-conference record, but it was primarily a function of avoiding any bad losses and picking up a lot of solid wins.

The problem is that year in and year out, the B12 teams do not consistently play and beat the better teams from the power 5 conferences. This year was no exception (the exception being WVU's win over UVA (their only loss)).

I very much hope I'm wrong, but my fear (and prediction) is that yet again the B12 teams will significantly underperform in the tournament (absolutely and relative to seedings). Happy to eat crow if that doesn't turn out to be the case....

@DCHawker To me the only truly surprising result was TCU Vandy.

I don't think anyone has said there is a big time FF contender in the big 12. KU, WVU and perhaps Texas Tech have an outside chance but are realistically S16/EE teams at best. Like you said, it's a balanced league with no truly terrible teams.

The argument for the B12 being the best conference will take a hit regardless of if WVU can beat UK. The SEC is probably the 4th best conference. I hoped we would win the challenge as a conference but I care more about what happens in Lawrence to be honest.

I only care that KU won today.

Kentucky should win this now tbh.

That dunk will do it! Good night!

Smh @ the lil10. What is it March already?

Today was just a sneak peak of the tourney. 🤢

@DCHawker

Florida and Tennessee are the #2 and #3 teams in the SEC while ISU and Baylor are the bottom 2 teams in the Big 12 so not necessarily unexpected. WVU, OU an TCU should have won. Disappointing show by the conference to say the least.

The SEC gets its first win in the 5 year history of the challenge and in a year where arguably their best team in Auburn didn’t even play. Not looking good for the little 12 once again.

JayHawkFanToo said:

@DCHawker

Florida and Tennessee are the #2 and #3 teams in the SEC while ISU and Baylor are the bottom 2 teams in the Big 12 so not necessarily unexpected. WVU, OU an TCU should have won. Disappointing show by the conference to say the least.

I was trying to drive this point home earlier about Tennessee. If Tennessee was a traditional power they would be ranked higher right now imo.

Has Huggins lost his team? Or are they just tired? Pressing all the time taking it's toll? I mean. I know they'll be ready and give us a run or beat us in our building cause that's the way of things.... But what's up with them. They were so hot just a few games ago.

cragarhawk said:

Has Huggins lost his team? Or are they just tired? Pressing all the time taking it's toll? I mean. I know they'll be ready and give us a run or beat us in our building cause that's the way of things.... But what's up with them. They were so hot just a few games ago.

They just got smothered by UK's lengthy athletes in the 2nd half. Once UK stopped turning it over (so, their own mistakes) they basically took control. Took some wild shots for WVU to stay in it. UK will be a tough out in the NCAAT for anyone.

@BShark not saying you're wrong. I was looking deeper than just today's game though. They don't seem to be what they did just a couple weeks ago honestly.

@DCHawker you're not wrong. We've all seen it happen on an annual basis. There's no reason to believe this year is any different. All the numbers and the ratings and yada yada. We see it's all talk when nobody really walks the walk after weekend 1 largely. Ratings and numbers don't earn respect. Post season wins do. It's gonna take an improvement in that area before anyone really believes the lil10 is the top conference.

@cragarhawk Imo WVU's system marginalizes talent. They played 11 guys today. They foul it up. It helps them hang with more talented teams but it also imo prevents them from ever being elite.

Well, the Big 12 didn't show - -stand up much today. - - - We did our part , - - Texas surprised but the margin a little bit , K-State is going strong , & Texas Tech managed to pull it out.

Baylor continued to look like warmed over dog doo , I still say Iowa state is not that good - - ya , I know they played us tough but who hasn't , I mean 45 points for a game - that's not going to win you much.

Oklahoma State played a little better then I thought they might considering they were without Shine and another key player had a perfect chance to win on their final shots.

West Virginia - -really struggles on the offensive end - to much damn one on one dribbling everyone just standing around. - -Carter a lot of times just dribbles at the top of the key , shot clock gets to low before they try and get in any kind of offense and then a lot of the time they have to force, - just not good offense.

So with that behind us , now time to get bad to the real matters at hand - -Big 12 race , we have a huge game Monday, I'm not gonna predict a win for sure, gonna be really hard the way squeak's boys are playing right now. Hell they actually seem to be playing BETTER since stokes has been out. - -Got to strap it up , another rough game in the Big 12.

Yes of course now we get to hear the rest of the year how the Big 12 is over rated once again , from every other fan base -- -probably right. I'm not to sure but what K-State might not crack the top 25 this week - like 23-25th - -time to roll. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@BShark @JayHawkFanToo ISU and Baylor losses not unexpected - they lost to 2 of the better teams in the SEC. But, when have we won by more than 20 at Hilton?

Did the B12 really get any good wins out of this? KSU had to come back to edge an average UGA team at home. KU should have won at AFH. TX beat a second tier at best team at home. TTU was a solid win against a decent SC team, but that was still #14 against unranked. 2 of the best 4 B12 teams lost, one on the road the other at home.

The SEC is better and deeper than in year's past, but still....

I think people confuse the big 12 being the best conference with it being the most competitive conference, which since it’s been at 10 teams I believe to be fairly accurate.

@DCHawker You won't find me defending the B12 today. I'm just not surprised. I thought people who were thinking WVU would wax UK were nuts.

@DCHawker

I don’t agree. Teams always play League rivals tough. KU always gets the best game of the season from all the other Big 12 teams, likewise, UK tends to get the best of other SEC teams and just lost to South Carolina, a game it had no business losing and it also lost to Florida and Tennessee. Regardless of how bad ISU is, it will always give KU a tough game, particularly at Hilton, and so will KSU.

How did WVU lose? When I saw halftime score, I'd banked it in the W column.

kjayhawks said:

I think people confuse the big 12 being the best conference with it being the most competitive conference, which since it’s been at 10 teams I believe to be fairly accurate.

This is exactly right. Perfect way to explain it.

We’ll see what March brings, which is the only true measure of national power.

@JayHawkFanToo I'm not sure what you are disagreeing with? I agree that league rivalry games will tend to be tighter, not so much because teams "get up" for KU (or UK), but because of familiarity - they know our schemes so well and can better disrupt offensive sets.

The issue is how B12 teams perform against better teams when they don't know their tendencies. Tennessee is a better team than ISU this year. But to lose by 20+ at home, esp. after being up by 8 early in the game?

But it goes beyond ISU yesterday. The fact is the B12's wins all came against teams in the bottom half of the oft derided SEC (not a one with a winning record in the conference). We couldn't get a win against any of the top half, and didn't have to play Auburn, which leads the conference now.

Again, I hope I'm wrong, but I fear this signals another crash and burn by the conference in the tournament. Good coaches across the conference, but simply not enough depth of talent to succeed against the top half of at least the ACC teams, and perhaps the SEC, P12 (we lost to 2 mid-tier P12 teams), BE and B10.

How many wins does the B12 have against teams that have any realistic shot at the FF (even the E8) - I would say just 2 - UVA and UK. Until conference teams regularly schedule and demonstrate they can win regularly against the best teams from the other power conferences, I expect it will be rinse and repeat....

Well kind of hate to say it, but - -came pretty damn close as to how these match ups would tur out. - -went 7-3 , missed on the Oklahoma game , missed the TCU game - -& missed the South Carolina game. - -Like others have said it really does look as thought every year the Big 12 gets all the hype about being the toughest conference and then - - -we get things like this -we see how it plays out in the tourney so day we are going to have to back up the talk. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

As others have said, yesterday was a preview of what will happen a month and a half from now. Every team in the Big 12 gets up to play us but as we have seen, each is more than capable of laying an egg. OU from yesterday is a great example.

All I really care about though is how well KU does. If Tech flops in the first round, I dont really care that much.

BShark said:

@DCHawker You won't find me defending the B12 today. I'm just not surprised. I thought people who were thinking WVU would wax UK were nuts.

ya, not me. I didn't think WV was gonna win this game - -I had Kentucky picked - -WV goes through to long of droughts where their offense sucks. - Carter just stands out top and dribbles then the shot clock runs down to where it is to short and they have to force things. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@CRH107 I am going to the ou, Texas and w Virginia games. Watching the game at home and gotta shout out the announcers! How refreshing. Guys that were respectful of AFH! Took a pic of my g daughter w/holly after game. If you haven't heard her story, look it up, impressive! Not talking cancer, but her start in sports. It was a great day to be a Jayhawk! Hoping for a repeat tomorrow!

@Crimsonorblue22 I'm covering for you at the OSU game next saturday!

Bracketology has 7 Big 12 teams and KU with a #1 seed.

Interesting write up ↗ on the NCAA web site about the Conference.

Looks like Mizzou will be one player short, PG Terrence Phillips indefinitely suspended. ↗

@JayHawkFanToo Great share, thanks.

I liked the Graham interview.

I liked Jevon Carters non-answer to what its like to play for Huggins "Pause. More pause. Well, uh, you know, main thing playing for a legendary coach, I couldn't pass that up. I wasn't highly recruited coming out of high school, I couldn't pass that up."

I liked the Graham interview.

And lastly, I liked this line from the article as I've wondered about the same thing: "The various computer power ratings love the Big 12. So as the conference of fickle fate recommences, here’s what you wonder: Are the recent scores reflective of teams starting to show flaws, or the inevitable bleeding when you go swimming with sharks?"

When the other B12 teams do their early exits every year from the dance, is it because our conference isn't as good as people think it is, or because they're all bleeding? Combo maybe?