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BeddieKU23 said:

One name that maybe pops up is Deontae Hawkins. Illinois St's leading scorer averaged 14 and 6 on 44% 3 point shooting. Was supposedly headed to Boston College for his final year, then was looking into professional avenues. Now Gonzaga and New Mexico are receiving visits. He's better then Whitman so maybe we try and get involved late.

Jamarko Pickett is also available. Don't know all the details here but he would be a fantastic addition. Late bloomer that committed early in his prep year and went to the same military school as Frank.

:coffee:

Moving on then.

Reid and Quinerly visiting on the 23rd of September. :coffee: :rolling_eyes:

@Texas-Hawk-10

Now this we agree on, I think KJ is better suited as a utility player/stretch 4 than a traditional Self 3.

I don't see Garrett starting.

Staff wants two guards minimum, this is known information.

Grimes would start, especially if Vick goes. Need someone to get buckets/make shots. Actually this is why I'm a huge proponent of adding Carey or Locke. Not sold on Cunliffe, KJ or Garrett as great scorers. Cunliffe and KJ are chuckers and while I do actually believe Garrett can be efficient, a great team player and a distributor/creator, he doesn't have a super great shot.

The 2nd starting guard spot is absolutely available and being sold to recruits, mainly Grimes.

I don't think Vick and Garrett are what Self wants at the two anymore. I think he wants another player capable of actually dribbling and running the offense. An actual pg or cg if possible.

@BeddieKU23

He's after them for the halibut, actually. :grinning:

Three top 75 guards would surprise me. It would probably also lead to a transfer.

Looks like Carey is likely to visit in October.

Yeah depending on the situation, you can really wait. Look at Duke with Tucker.......

Agree though. It's a bad look to take him before Grimes or Dotson visit. Especially with the staff making it known to Grimes that he is the top guard target. Now if Grimes takes his visit, and then doesn't want to commit until spring time, then all bets are off.

@BeddieKU23

Insiders that aren't goobers anyway.

MS says that it doesn't impact Grimes or Dotson. That KU is losing a lot of players (mentioned Newman as leaving, tfwiw) and will need to sign a lot.

Also Locke's circle does see him as more of a combo/2 apparently.

All that said he is listed as a PG on most services and taking him early would probably be risky.

Per one of the Maryland 247 guys he was told that Locke was "looking for an offer from them", referring to KU.

BeddieKU23 said:

jayballer54 said:

@BShark I have to agree with ya man, looks like the Carey possibility slacking with the news of these latest probably right. - -Whoever it is I think we are going to be just fine. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

He's most likely focusing on the local schools. Nova recently joined the heard on this one. We will see if he ends up visiting or not. Hes really damn good

Makes sense. Nova probably realizes Quinerly is not likely now.

Locke seems suuuuuper happy about the KU offer.

@BeddieKU23 I mentioned Mathis before, I thought he was trying recruit KU. However, it seems that KU is in constant contact. I would guess back-up plan. He or Locke would be a fine addition though. I don't think either impacts Grimes/Dotson. I do think maybe the Carey ship is sailing however.

@Kcmatt7

Guards: Moore
Wings/not great ball handling guards: Cunliffe, KJ, Vick
Unknown: Garrett

Plenty of room for guards imo.

We will see how it shakes out but it is pretty evident that the staff wants at least two guards.

BeddieKU23 said:

@BShark

That was a good decision

Agree.

Looks like KU could get involved with Noah Locke as well.

Malik Hall OFFERED.

@Kcmatt7

It might be time for 247 to move on and look elsewhere...

Why is it that KU can't have a good hoops insider? Matt Scott and Shay? MEH. I used to defend MS but I really can't anymore. He had to be goaded into posting info for his paying customers. Compare to Duke, UK, AZ sites etc... where there are regular articles...

mayjay said:

@BeddieKU23 I am having a senior moment: has a presumed OAD point guard won an NCAA title? If not, could this be why HCBS has seemingly eschewed some opportunities in elite PG recruits by taking Moore?

I think it was more that Self just whiffed pretty hard on two PGs in the last class (Sexton and Young*) that the staff put the full court press on to commit. So he didn't want to potentially get left in the lurch if he had some other tough misses. Self, like the rest of us, knows Newman is likely going pro after this year. So getting Moore on board gives the team a guard in his third season removed from HS, instead of likely having to start multiple FR or multiple players that have more of a wing skillset.

*I'm not even counting Duval.

Overall, I think it was a good move but time will tell.

@BeddieKU23

I'd love to see Grimes and Dotson as Jayhawks but that doesn't seem super likely.

BeddieKU23 said:

Well that didn't take long, Reggie Perry is off the board to Miss St. Ben Howland sells a pipedream again. 2 days after saying he wanted to take his time this around with his recruiting he's off the board again. The mind of these kids is LOL

Yeah...rofl...

Howland was probably recruiting him while committed.

@BeddieKU23

Fuggin Arizona. Just coming in swiping kids. Hopefully they get Quinerly....

Kcmatt7 said:

Good to see him putting up good numbers at a decently efficient clip. I'm going to try to watch all of the games tonight and see if there is anything the stats aren't saying.

Link? I'd like to watch the upcoming games.

Edit: Nevermind, it's all on firstrow

Fair point and yeah, lots of free trips. Can't blame kids for that.

How many OVs can KU give? If it's a low number this is kinda dumb.

10 S. Mykhailiuk * 34:00 25 3/4 75 5/13 38.5 8/17 47.1 4/5 80 0 6 6

34:00 26 4/9 44.4 3/7 42.9 7/16 43.8 9/11 81.8 1 6 7

Minutes played, points, 2pt, 3pt, total shooting, fts, offensive reb, defensive reb, total reb.

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Agree this team is not as good as the 08 team.

@mayjay Perry was super smart. He made up for not being an elite athlete by always being well positioned. He seemed to know some of the opposing sets better than the players on the other team in league play...

@REHawk It helps that Self is a great coach.

@BeddieKU23 After Ayton especially I will never count a player before they are signed. Self has done all he can with Grimes. That doesn't mean it will work out but the staff is definitely all-in here and putting forth the effort.

Oh and of course he says it's open. Uncommitted recruits will pretty much always say that. Even up until the day they commit. Not saying he is a lock to KU at all, but he said what he pretty much had to say more or less, especially to a UK reporter.

From a UK slanted article

When he trims his list of schools in the next two weeks, Kansas, Kentucky, Arizona and Texas will definitely make the cut, Grimes said. The Jayhawks are considered heavy favorites and their head coach sat right under the basket for his game Saturday.

“They’re probably the strongest right now. They call me every day, Bill Self is big on me and my mom went to Kansas,” Grimes said. “But she doesn’t put any pressure on me to go there at all, so it’s really my decision. I wouldn’t count anybody out, really, because every school is different, has a different sell, a different pitch. Every school has a good chance of getting me right now.”

Andrew Slater‏ @ASlater247

5⭐️Quentin Grimes dropped 41 today for Basketball U. Will cut list soon, but KU, Texas, Zona & Baylor have stood out

Self watched two players the other day: Grimes and Zion. Self has been at every game of Grimes so far I believe. That says a lot.

Snacks watched Tyrese Maxey and Hunter Dickinson.
Roberts watched Lawson, Jeffries and Carey.

Howard and Townsend watched Keldon Johnson. Very good player, but maybe too late to get involved?

Vick is a wing. Moore, Grimes, Vick. Really good trio there.

@BeddieKU23

:fire:

I do think he ends up at KU. Just so many factors in favour of KU and he is being prioritized. I remember some he is interested in UK rumblings but I mean what kid wouldn't be plus with UK taking Quickley plus Green and Alexander both likely not being OAD, it'd be hard to see Grimes going there. Whereas Grimes starts at KU from day one.

Something along those lines. We will see how truthful that ends up being.

KU was one of the first schools to reach out to him after he decommitted.

http://247sports.com/Player/Reggie-Perry-86018 ↗

And yeah definitely think they keep tabs on Thompson. Gotta think it would be fairly easy to close if wanted.

BeddieKU23 said:

@BShark

Bagley's deal is probably just a rumor but who knows with that kid.

Hall plays for Mokan, he's played well this week but we all know the growing Mokan curse we have going on.

Thompson hit a bunch of 3's in front of Self. Bet we keep on him if he continues to progress.

Agree on Wiseman. Interesting enough he said he'd visit this summer..

With Hall I think he is a very nice player it's just bad timing. KJ and Cunliffe could still both be on the roster. Then KU is in on Hurt, Lawson, Jeffries and JRE. None are pure wings except Jeffries but all are combo-forwardish. This is also part of why I would see Wiseman being a hard pull. The staff won't pass on JRE or Lawson. Could Wiseman be convinced to play center? Cal is certainly telling the kid he is a forward or hell, a wing (even though he isn't). The kid that visited the same day as Hall, interestingly enough plays the same position. I think it's worth keeping tabs on both. Especially given that Jeffries is not as much of a slam dunk to commit as Lawson or JRE.

Okay so he can shoot and is already 6'2''.

Thanks.

Hope the Bagley thing is just a rumour. I hope he ends up at Duke, UK or AZ provided it isn't KU.

Hall is a good player, but bad class for him to be a wing in. At least in terms of who KU is targeting.

Haven't read or seen much on Thompson but that's a hell of an in.

Wiseman appears to be a UK lean. From Tennessee though, so maybe KU has a shot...

Thanks @BeddieKU23 I don't remember reading that from Grimes. But I was awol for a bit due to being really busy.

And yep I like Carey. I'll be paying close attention to updates on who KU is watching.

BeddieKU23 said:

I'd love to know who he think's #5 and #6 are. If they are Preston/Doke and not Vick then we should see the staff following some of the elite bigs pretty closely.

He said 5-6 so the way I see it Preston, Doke and Vick are wildcards and they figure one of the three comes back. Jmo.

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

So looks like Self and the staff will be rotating in and out of the 3 major AAU tournaments that start this week. Peach Jam, UA & Adidas as well as Peach State for Ayo.

Nike EYBL Peach Jam - starts on Wednesday. Some of the KU targets EYBL has - Emmitt Williams, Bagley, Bol, Louis King, Jalen Carey and more.

Ayo will be playing in the tourney for the teams that didn't make Peach Jam

Under Armour is in the ATL - Moses Brown, Naz Reid and more

Adidas -Zion, Langford, Quickley, Grimes, Devon Dotson, Jordan Brown to name some.

Looks like the staff should predominately be at Adidas if I were them. See Ayo and some of Peach Jam as well. I'm sure it will be the opposite..

Extremely busy time now. I'd love to see a couple fall or earlier commitments for KU. Hell just one even, get Grimes signed.

I get the feeling Grimes might be one to hold out til spring.

I'd be pressing Dotson/Carey for fall. Carey just visited Syracuse with his family which is never a good thing for everyone else..

Ugh, I hope not.

And damn, I hope the staff isn't trying to slow roll Carey.

Whitman, Graham, Svi, Newman, Preston, Doke. Yep, the numbers add up.

BeddieKU23 said:

So looks like Self and the staff will be rotating in and out of the 3 major AAU tournaments that start this week. Peach Jam, UA & Adidas as well as Peach State for Ayo.

Nike EYBL Peach Jam - starts on Wednesday. Some of the KU targets EYBL has - Emmitt Williams, Bagley, Bol, Louis King, Jalen Carey and more.

Ayo will be playing in the tourney for the teams that didn't make Peach Jam

Under Armour is in the ATL - Moses Brown, Naz Reid and more

Adidas -Zion, Langford, Quickley, Grimes, Devon Dotson, Jordan Brown to name some.

Looks like the staff should predominately be at Adidas if I were them. See Ayo and some of Peach Jam as well. I'm sure it will be the opposite..

Extremely busy time now. I'd love to see a couple fall or earlier commitments for KU. Hell just one even, get Grimes signed.

@dylans

Ha. Howling.

@BeddieKU23

I think KU has a better shot at RJ Barrett than anyone listed in that article. To be fair he hasn't officially reclassed yet but he will.

Shame about Steere. Seems like some KU targets see a path to minutes at Creighton. First Ballock, now Steere. Can't blame Steere and he was probably a plan C, but stuff like this has made recruiting even more difficult.

Academic concerns likely helped too. I still don't understand how he is eligible. Oak Hill miracle I guess.

@dylans

Nope, nope, maybe, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.

Just my opinion obviously. I find it weird that the article didn't mention some players that are more likely to end up at KU. Then again, it's from Shay sooooo.

@BeddieKU23

Normally I'd say it's early, but yeah lots of commitments already.

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@mayjay Hopefully after Self makes another FF. We wouldn't want elpoyo's matter to scatter while he wasn't happy.