Crimsonorblue22 said:
@REHawk I loved how Coach used Marcus as an example and his perfect wording of a team player. To bad this trip could have helped w/that chemistry issue.
Garrett was a great signing by the staff by all accounts and it seems like since he has been on campus he has done nothing but back up his reputation that he is a hard worker that takes coaching well.
BeddieKU23 said:
David McCormack unofficially visiting KU in August. Plans to return for an official as well. Good start with this guy.
Oklahoma St and Duke also heavily involved as well as a few others. OSU is working hard to unofficially cheat in his recruitment doing the old "we'll hire his AAU coach" and recruit his teammate hard.
Unofficially cheat. Dying. At least it's open I guess.
Glad to see the staff putting priority on him. I was beginning to wonder. He might be the best traditional post player in this class. I'd love to see him at KU and two visits bodes well but it's going to be a tough pull from Okie lite as things currently stand for the reasons you mentioned.
@JayHawkFanToo With his brother still going on the trip too. That's gotta sting. Hopefully it sends the right message.
@Hawk8086 With as minor as it sounds we may never know. I'm with you though, I'd like to know.
Incident in practice is kinda meh for me without knowing the details. Much better than an actual criminal situation, which has been an issue lately. Given the history, it's good for Self to be stern but hopefully this was just a minor thing...
Terrence Hargrove Jr 2019 wing 6'6'' currently unranked
Zion Griffin 2018 wing/combo forward 6'5'' currently
unranked but on the rise, kid can BALL
Keyshawn Embery 2018 PG 6'3'' fringe top 200 guy
Jalen Lecque 2019 PG 6'4'' top 25 type talent major baller
KU watched all these players this weekend in addition to names you expect such as JRE, Harvey, N'faly Dante (MONSTER 2020 MEGASTUD CENTER), Malik Hall, Bryce Thompson, Ty Berry and Cole Anthony.
New names: Zion Griffin, Keyshawn Embery, Jalen Lecque (2019).
Trainwreck of a situation but if he can play this year I think he is a take. However it is being floated that he will go to UNC or play overseas.
BeddieKU23 said:
@BShark :
The multi-board threads are a disaster. They always end ugly.
The Duke faithful have been fed months and months of Barrett is going to Duke crap along with every other top prospect they have sniffed around on. They will get some like they do every year but its utterly insane how bad they act over the smallest thing.
When Duke lands Reddish I don't know how they sell Barrett. Just as Kentucky with Zion. Calipari will probably tell RJ he can play PG and C if he wants so maybe Kentucky can still convince him but logically I would think RJ will be looking past the "two recruiting powers". Hopefully that's the case and KU puts in the effort to get him on campus
Duke's GONNA SIGN 10 KIDS according to that one poster. That'd be something...
Matt Scott pretty much confirmed it with Barrett in a VIP post. He was hedging and obviously it's harder to trust him after Trae Young but it lines up with stuff I was reading elsewhere.
@BeddieKU23 Agree. I mentioned it before I have a hard time seeing KU take 3 players that play a similar position/role. You can't find minutes for all of them and they are all top 25 recruits that need minutes. Lightfoot will still be around and I'd bet KU adds a multi-year post in the 2018 class. And yeah rankings can be a bit tough to figure sometimes, with Hurt well he definitely has potential but part of the ranking might be how he projects at an NBA SF, which I don't care about at all. JRE is a grinder that would flourish under Self.
So an aside here: how has 247 not stopped those multi-board threads yet? Maybe they like the fighting because it drums up page hits but damn I just went through that Barrett thread and it's embarrassing all around.
BeddieKU23 said:
Hurt seems to be in no rush. Duke recently offered and they will be tough for him. Minnesota has his brother and if they continue to improve in the Big-10 he could stay home and play with him. I'm not as high on Hurt as his ranking suggest. Great versatility at his size but the recent updates about him suggest he's going to struggle defending at the next level. We'll see how he progresses going forward.
If KU ends up with JRE + Chandler Lawson but not Hurt, I don't think anyone is going to be too broken up about it.
chriz said:
U heard they're moving to 810? Kietzman's head will explode! They'd have to drop KSUck!
Isn't he in charge of everything at 810? It's just a business decision.
BeddieKU23 said:
jayballer54 said:
@BeddieKU23 Oh so sorry, my bad I thought you was talking about Devon sorry. - - Man it sure would be nice if somehow we were able to land Grimes and Dotson both. - - Not probably going to happen, BUT if we pulled that some way - - very nice. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
It would be the perfect situation if we landed both.
Both fill needs and both have been recruited with the same pitch that KU needs ball handlers and someone to play with Charlie Moore. What likely will happen is KU lands one of them and then takes Noah Locke who's a 4 star player that can shoot the J with the best of them in HS. That's probably a more realistic situation for KU but anything can happen. Self should be trying to land multiple elite guards because KU should be able to give them minutes
Some people think there isn't PT available but yeah I agree with your take.
Dotson and Grimes would be perfecto. Dotson a pure point and Grimes could play off him.
KU has a real chance at Barrett.
Yeah just...lol at that situation. And yeah if he visits twice...the second might be as a commit or easily seal the deal. I know he has mentioned signing late but you never know.
Florida insider lol.
Well, at least it's better than just a limited 5th year sr. So not ideal, but improvement from last year....
approxinfinity said:
Royals got Trevor Cahill from the Padres.
Without knowing much about the minor league player involved I like this trade a lot.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Self didn't sound all that happy to me about svi missing time in wt room, again. Debbie downer here, but he took a ton of shots and had a bunch of to's. Doesn't he play again in sept?
Well, he is one of their two best players so this has been pretty standard for his role with their team.
That won't be the case for KU this season and his role will be different.
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@wrwlumpy Thank you for the links.
If Mitch is ahead of Billy this team is in TROUBLE imo. I don't intend this as a slight towards Mitch at all, he will be a key piece for this team but Billy is needed to be very good.
Looks like Grimes is gonna visit KU twice.... Seems optimal.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@jayballer54 you missed team foe playing. They were up by 25 and lost
ELIIIIIIJAH
I'm gonna give you Garland's real final 6.
Duke, Duke, Duke, Vanderbilt, Duke and Duke.
I vacationed in Columbia once, don't wanna go back. Wow the humidity. :tired_face:
Doing great, thanks for asking.
“It was a dream come true, all my life I have been dreaming of having a blue blood school offering me and this finally happened,” he said. “I can’t even explain how it felt, it felt great.”
Bill Self and his staff have told him what they find intriguing about his game.
“They think that I fit into their playing style and think they can develop me into being a great player,” Locke said. “They think that I can come and play right away with them losing some guards.”
Malik Hall in the High Choice group on 247. MS may be a goober but generally he is at least more accurate about who KU is really targeting.
Also UCLA made a bunch of offers to KU targets like Harvey and JRE. Harvey picked up a UCLA CB pick from Slater.
Grant Sherfield has fallen off a cliff in the composite rankings.
My thoughts are that it doesn't matter too much because no one can dethrone the super Warriors.
Statmachine said:
I'm intrigued. Realistic possibility?
More of the same.
“We’ll go wherever we have to, to try to find something,” Self said. “If there’s an unsigned (high schooler) or a juco (player) or overseas or whatnot, but the chances of finding somebody I don’t think are real high. If there’s a big walk-on out there, we’d probably be interested in him,” Self added.
Self said the loss of Whitman “doesn’t affect how we play at all. We’re going to play three bigs. We’ve still got three bigs who are going to play. Jack would have provided depth. Where it could affect us … if a guy becomes injured, now you are going to probably look at playing small a lot more.”
What about fit for you? What are you going to be looking for?
A relationship with the coaching staff...definitely a relationship with them, and how they see me at that level and hopefully at the next level.
Do you need a track record of development?
That’ll play into it, but it won’t be as big as style and coaching and things like that.
What’s the plan, in terms of when you’d like to decide?
Really don’t have a plan as far as the fall or early spring.
How do you plan on announcing?
We haven’t decided any of that. We’re just trying to take our time right now.
Let’s go through a couple of the schools.
A couple of the schools? Kansas, Arizona, Texas, and Baylor are the ones that are on me really hard right now.
What’s been Kansas’ message so far as to why you’d be a good fit for them?
Definitely I can play two or more positions on the court. I can play the one, the two, it really doesn’t matter- I can come in with any big guard and score right away and play right away.
And be that combo type of guard that they're looking for...
Yeah.
Baylor?
Baylor, they really want me to come in and play right away and be an overall leader in my size and really just every school is saying I can play the one or two or maybe the three.
And Arizona?
Yeah, they don’t really have a form point guard, like he said, a bigger point guard, and be a little bit better than previous point guards that they’ve had and things like that.
And finally, Texas?
I know Texas. A guy like Shaka Smart, I like the way he calls me every now and then- he’s not overbearing on me. So, he keeps it really good and professional.
Is that the approach you like?
Yeah, because he’s real upfront. He asked me, “How do you want me to contact you?” and I said maybe once a week or twice a week and I like the way he has me with that control.
That’s good. What about your relationship with Matt Coleman?
I’ve known Matt since years ago, I have a little bit better relationship with him.
He’s definitely a different type of guard than you.
Yeah, he’s pass-first, so I like that…I don’t have to have the ball in my hands every time, so I really like that about him.
tl;dr like @Texas-Hawk-10 said it seems like the spot might remain vacant.
Also it sounds like Whitman wasn't going to play much at all but that could be perceived as damage control. I think Self is being honest though.
“We’re not gonna sign somebody just to sign somebody,” Self told the Journal-World. “The pool of players is so small.”
“The idea is to find someone to help you this year,” he said. “I think that’s the best way to put it. But if you can’t find someone to help us this year, there’s no reason to burn it.”
“This does not affect us on how we will play as long as everyone’s healthy,” Self said. “If you have an injury, that will obviously change the way we play a little. But, right now, I still see us playing two bigs more than we did last year.
“We’ve gotta get our best players on the floor and we’ve got a pretty good seven or eight right now. And that wasn’t including Jack. So not having Jack doesn’t affect how we play at all. Where it could affect us is, if a guy becomes injured, now you’re gonna probably be playing small a lot more.”
Staying healthy is a key part of any team’s success so nothing changed for the Jayhawks there. And Self will spend the next several days, including Friday, looking at every possible avenue to add a player who could impact the team in a positive way right away. He said the chances of adding such a player before the trip to Italy were “next to zero,” but added that he would still have time to look around at potential additions after their return on Aug. 8.
“We’ll go wherever we have to to find a body,” Self emphasized. “But the chances of finding somebody I don’t think are real high.”
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2017/jul/21/self-will-seek-fill-scholarship-opened-whitman-dep/ ↗
Texas Hawk 10 said:
Self doesn't sound too optimistic about being able to fill Whitman's scholarship this year.
Yeah, it's pretty difficult at this point. :/
Udoka will be a beast, but as you know officiating is inconsistent. He will probably get fouled a ton but many will go uncalled. It goes both ways though so yeah.
Just rumours. I could have been more clear.
Oh and per Matt Scott Whitman was NOT pushed out by Self. It was just a poor fit and a decision completely by Whitman.
Lightfoot is a much better option than Svi at the 4. Hell I would posit that Vick is as well. We don't want to see Svi at the 4.
Whitman is leaving because he was behind Lightfoot.
And yes, Bagley would start and play 30+ mpg.
Hopefully we hear something soon about potential replacements. If only we had non-goober insiders.
justanotherfan said:
There are so few true 5's in CBB now that you don't have to have a true backup to the position. It's more important to have versatility than having a true 5, even as a starter, let alone as a backup.
Line-ups without Doke will be trickier now. Lightfoot definitely isn't beefy enough to pull it off against most opponents. So it will be Preston by default I guess. Certainly Doke is going to get every last minute he can handle.
@JayHawkFanToo
6'1'', fat and old. Defense would be a problem. :grinning:
I'M READY COACH, PUT ME IN.
Bagley isn't coming to KU. It's as likely that I suit up for KU this season.
And Whitman was going to play a bit, how much we can't really say. It's unfortunate, especially during the first semester as KU will only have 8 scholarship players.
Looks like Pickett wants to stay in the DC area.