Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BeddieKU23 gonna b a favorite
already is one of mine. agreed
BeddieKU23
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15-12 after some sloppy play defensively..
Garrett making his presence felt on defense already
a lot of missed shots
15-5 after a Cunliffe dunk
Devonte with two 3's already
http://kuathletics.leanplayer.com/ ↗
Radio feed for those that don't want to pay $30
10-3 KU early.
Starters were Graham, Newman, Vick, Preston, Doke.
Charlie Moore looks like he's a high school freshman.
Garrett's hair makes him 6'10
Love it, those try harder banners are going to look awful good for years to come
The timeline might not support that claim that has been made but what if the play did happen (Mitch's nose) and Dedric at subsequent practices was showing chippy behavior towards teammates etc. I don't necessarily think everything happened at once to make Self hand out this punishment. This could have been multiple little behavioral issues popping up during the practices that led Self to send a message.
Whatever the case I'm on high alert to the brothers. We already had one slandering their former coach and now we have the other being suspended for who knows what and missing critical time with his teammates. However small the issue is overall I'm now pessimistic we get what we signed up for with them
It will be important to see how the domino's at the PG position play out this fall. Everyone is waiting for someone to make the first move.
I'd be happy if KU got one of its elite guard targets (Grimes or Dotson) and someone like Noah Locke who's the prototypical Top 100 4 star recruit but fills a need that's leaving the team (perimeter shooting) after this season. Locke shot over 50% from 3 this summer. If KU can grab multiple elite guards to add to its roster then I think it would send a message into the recruiting world that KU and Self are still one of the top dogs out there.
Another board is saying Dedric broke Mitch's nose and that is why he staying. for what it's worth, or not
Texas Hawk 10 said:
@BeddieKU23 Then explain the logic of how KU signs two 5 star PG's when they will already have a top 50 PG already on campus and in the system for a year?
My logic is the same as it was before. We're losing multiple guards and we are recruiting multiple guards to fill those positions.
There is nothing else to say until the fall when these guards start making decisions
RJ Barrett is officially in 2018 class. Self's chance to land the next big time wing.
He's absolutely at the same level as Wiggins and Jackson were. He's a perfect fit at KU and would elevate next years team a whole lot
Certainly not a deal breaker. But we'll hope the message has been received LOUD and clear. If not Self should be looking at signing his replacement. Once you start getting disciplined by coach you only have so many mulligans left.. I hope this is a great teaching moment for both sides. If Dedric wishes to play basketball at the next level his character and having a good reference from his coach goes a long ways...
BShark said:
Still don't know how, but not complaining. Preston had about the same amount of time at API/PRIME PREP etc... as other kids that ended up having to go overseas. Guess they shoulda went to Oak Hill for a year...
I was more concerned about how many High School's he went to. But its nice to know whatever he did take at API/Prime didn't end up hurting him. Big kudos to Oak Hill for helping him
At least we know for sure now..
Billy Preston has been fully cleared by the NCAA.
Oak Hill Magic is real!!
Yes Oklahoma St looks tough with how they are trying to get him to commit. My hope is he looks at the roster and see's 2 C's that he'd have to compete with. While KU literally has Doke and may/may not have him after next season and nothing else.
Definitely is one of the best traditional post players out there. I think his development would further continue with Hudy as he's a big that has reshaped his body over the years.
Getting 2 visits is very important in potentially landing him.
David McCormack unofficially visiting KU in August. Plans to return for an official as well. Good start with this guy.
Oklahoma St and Duke also heavily involved as well as a few others. OSU is working hard to unofficially cheat in his recruitment doing the old "we'll hire his AAU coach" and recruit his teammate hard.
Well that relationship is off to a resounding start. Maybe Self should be planning on him not being here next season the way this is already starting
Thanks for that. Looks like he needs a waiver to not sit a year. The ESPN scroll pointed that out.
Hopefully they let him go anywhere and Bill Self is his first call
You can say what you feel as you have and I don't agree
I disagree
jayballer54 said:
Well I read where my favorite - -Devon is visiting Arizona from the 1st-3rd of August, might be bad BUT still believe its KU/Fla . He said he is still going to visit KU & Florida. -I don't think the Pillsbury pop and dough boy Miller gets this one. Bagley visiting there to, stills says he gonna visit KU - -whoopee we know where he is going.
On a little side bar USC trying to score brownie points with Bagley parents, offered all THREE Bagley's while he is on his visit - -now there is an idea lol. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
We should be scared of this visit. Dotson has been eating up what Miller has been selling.
Still going to visit doesn't mean he will. We don't have a date for his visit as of today. I'm not trying to say anything but without a visit lined up, he could pop for them. We better pray he leaves Tuscon without committing
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BeddieKU23 omgosh! He's really good! Isn't that where coleby went?
Yes. The entire reason he went to WKU was because his godfather was on staff. Williams left the staff earlier this month and now Robinson has left as well. The problem for Robinson now is that he had already enrolled in classes at WKU. Not sure how it works but he probably won't get a full release I'm guessing. I had read oversea's could be an option for him as well. If by miracle he does get released to play this season I'd hope KU was after him. How many schools have open scholarships this late ya know?
5 star recruit Mitchell Robinson is back on the market from Western Kentucky.
And look who just happens to have a open scholarship available in need of a big.
KUSTEVE said:
We need BASKETBALL ........NOW. Too much time on our hands points out our differences. Man oh man, our front line looks skinnier than a one toothed man in a corn on the cob eating contest.
That's 2 great one's this week.
KUSTEVE said:
Football took a big hit when some of the players decided to kneel for our national anthem. It caused a fan concussion that left the sport in concussion protocol.
That's great!
mayjay said:
@BeddieKU23 The downside
about him being local in South Carolina is, of course, the fact that it seriously reduces KU's chances of getting him since 4 other big contenders are close enough for him to play in front of family almost every game. UK, UNC, Duke, and SC.
The most recent chatter that's been circulating has him going to Kentucky to play with Quickley. Quickley is also visiting KU but last month said Kentucky was his leader. Probably going to be tough if he follows through with that
Especially if he doesn't sign in the fall I can see this excitement that has followed him all July continuing. SC may never have a kid in their state that will be like him again
Zion is crazy good. At this level there is literally no one at his size that can stop him. Haven't seen that since Lebron.
Some more pub for Dotson. Really doing his thing this summer. Have to think he'll be moving up.
From Rivals: Which player is the most talked about among college coaches?
Two guys seemed to be discussed by college coaches more than others: Devon Dotson and Tyler Herro. Dotson has continued to go up against some of the top point guards in his 2018 class and come out on the other side as the winner of each battle. He has been described as a bad dude, the perfect phrasing for the competitive nature and consistent winning background of the Carolina native.
jayballer54 said:
@BeddieKU23 Yet if you were to ask Oregon people about RJ and they are going to tell you that is pretty much a sure thing he is going to commit to Oregon because of there Canadian Pipeline lol - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Oregon will probably be in this. His friend Kigab who he just won gold with is going to Oregon. Shittu another one of his buddies is considering Oregon as well.
But Oregon fans are overplaying the Canadian angle a little too much when it comes to the type of recruit Barrett is. They tend to get underrated guys, not the best prospect in the class. The 2 best Canadians in recent years have been Andrew Wiggins and Jamal Murray who went to blue-bloods KU and UK. So Oregon's pipeline has little to do with guys of that stature. It's funny what people will bicker about when this kids recruitment is far from being over
BIFM!!!
@BShark :
The multi-board threads are a disaster. They always end ugly.
The Duke faithful have been fed months and months of Barrett is going to Duke crap along with every other top prospect they have sniffed around on. They will get some like they do every year but its utterly insane how bad they act over the smallest thing.
When Duke lands Reddish I don't know how they sell Barrett. Just as Kentucky with Zion. Calipari will probably tell RJ he can play PG and C if he wants so maybe Kentucky can still convince him but logically I would think RJ will be looking past the "two recruiting powers". Hopefully that's the case and KU puts in the effort to get him on campus
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Hurt seems to be in no rush. Duke recently offered and they will be tough for him. Minnesota has his brother and if they continue to improve in the Big-10 he could stay home and play with him. I'm not as high on Hurt as his ranking suggest. Great versatility at his size but the recent updates about him suggest he's going to struggle defending at the next level. We'll see how he progresses going forward.
If KU ends up with JRE + Chandler Lawson but not Hurt, I don't think anyone is going to be too broken up about it.
I'd rather have both of those that you mentioned then Hurt. We are likely in a great position for both as well both by connection and the position likely having a bunch of minutes to give them. Hurt is a big time player but I don't think he's the greatest fit at KU. Those things will sort themselves out as 2019 class becomes the centerpiece of things.
Dotson is running with Zion this weekend in Vegas. Playing Lamelo Ichuckthebasketballattherimanddon'tplaydefense Ball today! Good opportunity for Dotson to show out against the media train Ball's
jayballer54 said:
BShark said:
KU has a real chance at Barrett.
Good call my friend , we just possibly might be able to get this to work. The kid is an Animal ya only listed at 6'6 but still just a freak. Article says Duke, Kentucky, Michigan, & Oregon are considered front runners but Arizona, KU, Texas, & UCLA right there also. Then with the CB - -again it's the CB but yet they have Duke at 57% and then KU at 29% and then Kentucky at 14% - -sounds like he might be seriously considering to re-classify to 2018 - - - interesting to see how this turns out
Also read that Cole Anthony who is ranked the # 1 pg in the class of 2019 says that Louisville, Indiana, Miami, & KU are the one's that he is hearing a lot from. - - Some mention of him being like a Kyrie Irving with a bounce. - -nasty crossover over - -then when you look at his list of top 5 schools shows that at this point KU is the only of the 5 with warm - - hmmmmm. - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Yeah Jerry isn't hearing anything, they shut his recruitment down for the summer and didn't go to end of the July AAU tourney's. It's funny that they are "hearing information" when he's home in Canada right now.
He may very well be considering Duke/Kentucky but once they start landing elite players at his position this fall I think its hard to expect him looking at them. Kentucky seems poised to get Zion and Louis King who play Barrett's position. Duke has Reddish in the bag as well.
Oregon with their Canada pipeline could be an interesting team to watch.
As for Cole Anthony, he's one of the top 2 point guards in the 2019 class. Duke definitely has their sights set on Anthony as well.
I think Ashton Hagans is just as good, maybe better then Anthony. Anthony gets more pub because Hagans runs with Adidas. KU has started to recruit both and I hope we continue to pursue them
kjayhawks said:
@BeddieKU23 I agree but still think it is a positive for both the city and KU.
Certainly. I should have also pointed out how it's great having a big event like this right in KU'S backyard. They extended a few new offers that they might not have handed out if this wasn't so close to home
kjayhawks said:
Surprised I didn't here a whole lot on here about the AAU hardwood classic in Lawrence over the weekend at the new the sports pavilion. Over 200 youngsters and dozens of top coaches in the college basketball world. Oddly enough the event was put on by Nike. Anyhow just cool all he new stuff going on in town and the new additions to KU, between events like this and the new housing for players paired with AFH and new Debruce center it makes a guy wonder how a recruit could say no to KU. It's a great day to be a jayhawk as always.
There wasn't a ton of recruits KU was after. Self and staff came and went for some players but overall this event didn't have the type of guys KU was going for like a few weeks ago
Just a follow up to Little and the Wing Position.
I think KU would be wise to wait out for RJ Barrett.
If Zion goes to Kentucky, Duke lands Reddish then KU has a great chance to position itself for Barrett once he announces his reclassification.
I know we have a ton of wings but you clear the sea for Barrett if he wants to come. He knows about Wiggins and I'm sure Jackson helps us there as well.
jayballer54 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Dotson's latest Q&A with Slater.. Positives for KU.
Florida is definitely the other contender with Miami, Maryland & Arizona pushing for him as well. I think Dotson will sign in the fall.
Florida insider seems to think they have him..
Ya Since I've read his latest this morning, now am leaning more towards what you said previously. - - -Sounds to me like more and more this will end up coming down to a KU/Florida battle in the end run. Miami there, BUT just the way I read into things sounds like these two to me. He said he had already been on the KU campus unofficially this past Jan, and after he cuts his schools after the live period and makes his visits I just feel we make that cut & then he will make his official visit here. I understand Arizona is one of the eight, but on this one I don't think they play as much of a factor as in others. Be nice to get him on a 2nd visit.
This has been my guy this recruiting season, liked him from the get go. He came away from KU with a pretty good impression " REALLY LOUD saying he thought his ears were about ready to fall off, Super loud, and they fans with the chants" Devon is a very strong ball handler, the article says he dominated the Under Armour camp, leading in points, and Steals. Was asked what he wanted to work on in August and he said his outside shot, & consistency. They also said that a lot of pg's are a little soft but opponents who have played against Devon say they feel it after a game against him - - -his response is he likes to play physical - -play hard.
Of our competition for him Devon stated that Florida has been in contact with him Forever and he has formed a great relationship with the staff. -- This is why really important to get that 2nd visit here. One thing I have found a little interesting with Devon, him being from Carolina that none of the Big time Schools are in his final 8 Duke, N Carolina, N C State, - - and no Kentucky either, just a little different this time for a change lol. He States Miami is stilla serious contender also still BUT again I think now it is KU/Fl battle.
So question - -when does the live period end anyways, that's when he is cutting his list - -after that. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Florida has the biggest need for a PG out of any of the teams involved. KU is next after that. If its down to relationships its going to be a KU/Florida battle. If he takes his visit to Arizona things can change, kids come back from that visit and don't go anywhere else. I'm stunned Quinerly didn't commit after his official but he seems to be content on going through the free trip process first.
Little is going to be a 5 star wing by the end of summer. If he signs late we might have a chance but looks like Arizona has made him priority #1 according to what he said.
Hurt seems to be in no rush. Duke recently offered and they will be tough for him. Minnesota has his brother and if they continue to improve in the Big-10 he could stay home and play with him. I'm not as high on Hurt as his ranking suggest. Great versatility at his size but the recent updates about him suggest he's going to struggle defending at the next level. We'll see how he progresses going forward.
Mathis is a backup plan but could be one KU looks to take with either Grimes/Dotson. Matt seems to think KU isn't in his top 2 choices right now.
I believe the live period ends after this weekend.
jayballer54 said:
@BeddieKU23 Oh so sorry, my bad I thought you was talking about Devon sorry. - - Man it sure would be nice if somehow we were able to land Grimes and Dotson both. - - Not probably going to happen, BUT if we pulled that some way - - very nice. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
It would be the perfect situation if we landed both.
Both fill needs and both have been recruited with the same pitch that KU needs ball handlers and someone to play with Charlie Moore. What likely will happen is KU lands one of them and then takes Noah Locke who's a 4 star player that can shoot the J with the best of them in HS. That's probably a more realistic situation for KU but anything can happen. Self should be trying to land multiple elite guards because KU should be able to give them minutes
jayballer54 said:
@BeddieKU23 He has already been to KU on his on dime back in Jan, - -and we make his list after he cuts, which I feel we will that will be his 2nd visit. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Are you talking about Grimes or Dotson. I was referring to Grimes in the post.
I wonder if he will end up in China at some point where he could also make some good money
BShark said:
Yeah just...lol at that situation. And yeah if he visits twice...the second might be as a commit or easily seal the deal. I know he has mentioned signing late but you never know.
Florida insider lol.
Yeah if we lock in both visits great but until he does I just assume we'll only get the official once other schools put pressure on him to visit etc and he runs out of time to go on his own dime. If he officials before Late Night then comes back for LN I can see that being a situation that greatly benefits getting him to sign early.. I'm not Coach but that is the situation I would be pushing for
I wouldn't trade Kyrie for Porzingis. Is the NBA going mad?
I don't think Kyrie is going anywhere if I had to say so today.
Look out for Boston in this though. They probably have the guys who can get it done Salary wise, whether it be giving Cleveland Thomas, maybe Crowder, Smart and some of their picks.. Can't imagine Cleveland is going to give up their other star player to the only team in the East with a pulse of beating them next year for a chance at the Finals.
dylans said:
BeddieKU23 said:
So our post situation is a composed of a seldom used sophomore, a sophomore who played 11 games due to injury, and a freshman.
Let that sink in for a minute
Self needs to pull some magic tricks and find himself another player with size and for depth.
So you're saying KU has tons of experience on Kentucky!
Technically yes, although Gabriel played more minutes for them then Doke/Lightfoot have combined..
I wasn't worried when we had Whitman who was expected to blend his experience, big body, and scoring around the rim to sprinkle into the rotation but now its looking bare down in the post. We hear great things of Mitch's progress and the potential that lies within Preston if we can get it out of him here. We know how good Doke is potentially. It's all potential. We need another body no matter if he doesn't play a ton.