Oh my KJ. he's shaq'ing rims
BeddieKU23
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That's been the word from practice recently that Johnny has leveled up
Nice job parker on that 3. We are not rebounding that great defensively though
Phantom foul of air
Holy Johnny
We scored on the play thankfully but Kevin got hosed from 2 free throws
Juan with a great find
Ice cold in his veins
Omg ref your hilarious
Really awesome start
Former UCF player announcing, zero conflicts there
Woodson doesn't appear to be the answer despite bringing some top level talent there.
I have zero idea how both arrive at a line so close. KU traditionally very good on the road in conference play facing a team that doesn't have a roster built for success in this league. It is a home game which is always worth some points but man it's hard to see the logic otherwise. Same UCF team that was absolutely blown out 4 days ago.
Gameday, first conference road one. Unknown place, unknown team. UCF got blown out by Kansas St Saturday 77-52 in their welcome to the Big-12.
UCF overall is 9-4.
They lost to Miami by 16, Stetson by 3, Ole Miss by 2 & K-St by 25.
They are 0-3 against Power 5 competition. Kenpom #86, #25 rated defense.
They are led by Ball St transfer Jaylin Sellers, 6'4 guard is averaging 17 ppg.
I'm not going to jinx KU but this team is not very good, not very talented. It will probably take a Topeka YMCA type bad game to lose this but with the line at only 7.5 it does give me concern we will play down to competition.
Hopefully we don't
Heard he's a real shooter
I used the term lucky just to start conversation but there's definitely talk out there about how good this team is despite being ranked #2 while on a 9-game winning streak.
The roster is top heavy with 4 vets that get it and the rest that are trying to catchup to that level. The imbalance makes the level of play inconsistent at times which is perhaps the biggest reason people see weakness and run with it. To be ranked #2 with some of the weaknesses this team has is really remarkable.
Self is again showing why he's the best coach out there
Great post, agree on all. Biggest lead was 6 (KU) for either team. TCU is top 10 in the nation in steals. The way KU is generating offense this year is heavily influenced through passing (a reason assists are so high) with a lot less ISO ball so it's something KU will have to navigate and continue to improve on. There were certainly some careless mistakes made but a good chunk of turnovers came off good TCU defense. It is an area of concern though as Harris & is averaging a career worst 2.7 turnovers per game & his coach has been on him about that and other things more than a few times already this season. Some out of character mistakes from him at times this year. Hopefully it's something they get behind them and doesn't keep popping up.
KU continued its conference opener win streak, now (33 years) and hopefully counting with a gutty 2-point win over TCU in Allen Fieldhouse. It was a very good game that ended in KU's favor Saturday.
I've seen A LOT of national media reacting to the game, whether it be social media etc. I've seen both sides of the story regarding the Flagrant 1 call and whether that was the right call and the subsequent impact it had on the outcome of the game. There was still over a minute left in the game so it's difficult to say TCU wins the game definitively if that flagrant isn't called. So much can happen in the last minute of a tight game, and we've seen too many improbable comebacks in Allen Fieldhouse to say otherwise at this point. Would TCU have scored on the potential fast break opportunity to make it a 2-possession game? Probable but we don't know and the same for the outcome. They might have had a 70+% chance to win at that point but we don't know. It was a fortunate turn of events in KU's favor (More on that later).
It was the right call by the rule and I'm surprised at the controversy. Why did Udeh whip his arm back after the steal instead of carrying his momentum forward? To me that was intent to clear space with intent to create contact which just so happened to be Hunter's face. I don't think Udeh hitting Hunter in the face was intentional at all but it's certainly something that cost his team in the end.
Now getting to the meat and potatoes of the discussion. KU sits 13-1 and #2 in the nation on paper. Besides being undefeated there isn't much more this KU team could be doing better on paper. Despite that, there is a narrative out there that this KU team might not be as good as their record indicates. That KU is lucky to be 13-1 and the TCU game certainly fuels that discussion. I watched one video where they said KU is the most unimpressive 13-1 team they can remember in a long time. How can that be when KU has 2 All-American candidates on the same team with the best coach in all of College Basketball leading them. I don't understand that talk.
Another said they look like a 2nd round exit in the Tournament type team. Perhaps they are onto something there as far as ceiling of this team, perhaps they are full of crap. Nobody knows what this team will do until it gets to that point which frankly is still to early to be fussing about. I guess winning games isn't enough if you're not dominating every opponent or looking sexy enough in the analytics. There are only 6 Power-5 teams left with 1 loss or less (1 unbeaten). A dozen P5 teams with 2 or less losses so it's not like this year's College Basketball landscape is full of elite level teams because that's not the case at all.
On the Analytics side, KU isn't even close to a Top 5 team right now and you wonder how that's possible with their record and who they've played. Kenpom has them #16, Torvik #18, NET #11 overall right now. How can these be so off from what's actually happening when the game gets played? Can the numbers be trusted? KU has beaten #4, #6 & #17 according to Kenpom. Kenpom also has a "luck" rating where it has KU #18. The definition of this rating is as follows:
Luck rating (Luck): KenPom defines this as a measure of the deviation between a team’s actual winning percentage and what one would expect from its game-by-game efficiencies. Essentially, a team involved in a lot of close games should not win (or lose) all of them. Those that do will be viewed as lucky (or unlucky).
Interested to hear what y'all have to say about this team in light of Saturday's game. Are they lucky to be 13-1 or is this just the media trying to create a narrative?
If they counted how many times he gave up a basket he'd lead the team. Really poor defensive game from him yesterday and you could tell he was not having his best day. Nerves for conference opener. Hopefully he settles. We are just seeing the up and down for sure
KU moved down for winning yet again. LOL
Jameer Nelson, former NBA player and St Joe's legend. His son Jr plays for TCU
TCU is a good team, perhaps even a lot better then they are getting credit for in the rankings. They are top 25 in at least 7 team statistics including 8th in steals per game. Some of the turnovers were from TCU being a really good team at forcing turnovers with their traps and doubles.
They are just like KU but with more firepower from the perimeter at times. Nelson that comes off the bench is clearly a starter level guy and they are top 5 in experience in all of D-1.
Dixon has played KU tough the past 3-4 years and elevated to compete against us. He thumped us in Allen last year and the road games have always been difficult. I expected this game to be tough and it pushed us to the brink at home.
I like that this game kind of sets us up for the next couple games, unknown road game at UCF who will be looking for a bounce back after getting dismantled at K-ST and then a big one again next weekend with Oklahoma. They needed this kind of game to knock some rust off after only 5 games in the past month.
If we don't get some home cooking in Allen at times then what's the point of a home court advantage. We see it happen to us all the time on the road so I will not lose sleep here.
The rule is clear and it was called. What sold it was Hunter, as Self said in the post game.
No different then Miller selling that foul on KJ or guys calling for the ball that goes out of bounds to be their ball when they know it's not. You influence the play however you can and Hunter did what he had to do to change the play so credit to him. Udeh being the guy that fouled is fitting because we know his antics and foul tendencies.
Damn what a game
HUNTER
As usual don't value the ball
Yep
Thanks refs
Awful
Jeez they should have furphy in there
Texas A&M CC
They have abused him all game
@bskeet said in KU vs TCU game chat:
@BeddieKU23 In how many years and where?
2 at much lower school
He did make 176 3s at his previous stop but still this is redic
Lol sure kid
Nice d!
Yeah even worse on replay
I cant
Starters have 13 to's
Nice play kev
Whatever johnny
Very weak call on hunter there. Not impressed
Big time shot by furph
Freshman mistakes
Harris has been awful
Elmarko lost on both
The adjustment on defense is to quit double teaming. So many mistakes with that
Hunter missed 2 big shots there