Jmu just took Mich St to overtime!
GO DUKES
@FarmerJayhawk my alma mater, ranked in football, soccer, and maybe bball?
Ballgame!
Michigan State goes down 79-76 in OT. Ranked #4.
Tom Izzo is now 74-1 in November
@approxinfinity itās the Dukes world, weāre just living in it
The last AP top 5 team to lose to an unranked opponent to open the season was.....Michigan State in 2005 to Hawaii.
@approxinfinity We've beaten Izzo in the champions classic in November so there's something wrong with your numbers. He's certainly lost in November before last night.
@BeddieKU23 Was thinking it probably was something like that.
@BeddieKU23 said in Other bball games:
Wonder if the stat was non conference home game against unranked opponent.
75 total November games would be very low for someone who's been at a school as long as Izzo's been at Michigan St. considering most teams play 6-7 games in November.
@Texas-Hawk-10 @wissox i repeated what i heard. Thanks for keeping me honest. Stat was probably derived from āin the last x yearsā
Oh or what @BeddieKU23 said :thumbs_up:
Here is somewhat of the stat. Michigan St was the first team since 2001, (Kentucky) to lose at home in their season opener to an unranked opponent as a top 5 team. So it hadn't happened in a while.
Izzo is 21-7 in season openers
Indiana very un-impressive at this point . just now taking a little control with 7 minutes to go only up now 54-48 over Florida Gulf Coast
Auburn-Baylor pretty good game.
Cool arena at Sanford Pentagon in Sioux City.
Baylor looked pretty good. Turned 6 pt deficit into comfortable win. Got a great freshman Walter.
I'm looking forward to watching part of the #12 Arizona/Duke game at 6 C on ESPN2 Friday before our game. AZ put up 122 pts in its opener. I sure hope it does the same against Duke.
According to our favorite commentator Franny he said Baylor was the best and deepest team he visited before the season.
Baylor looked good and man Auburn always gets athletes and little quick guards. That Holloway kids is gonna be a stud.
Getting ready to watch Duke & Ariz. Of the 15 players for Duke, 8 players are listed at 6'9" or taller. 3 players are 7' or taller. I remember posting last year that because they can and no one else can, why not play a brief lineup with all 3 of the footers, the 6'10" guy and one of the 6'9" shorties. Just because they can.
Is Kentucky okay??? I'm sure they will come out of it but 0-2 Texas A&M COMMERCE is rolling them atm.
Does Bilas announce all the Duke games? What a homer.
Poor Coach Calipari, he was only able to use one sub in the first half. Against Texas AM-Commerce. Who?
@kuballin10 said in Other bball games:
@BShark There three 7 footers arenāt playing.
Bradshaw and Onyunso are hurt and the Z guy is in ncaa review
I was hoping weād play them at full strength so this sucks. Athletically will be at least better than nothing before Maui
Still should have done better but it's whatever as they did win.
The Kentucky box score against TexAM-Commerce is interesting: Cal only played 7 players, Tre Mitchell and 6 guards. The starters all played 10 more minutes than our guys played. The lineup looks more like February, than November. I don't follow Kentucky enough to know their other players. I saw a post that said K's 3, 7 footers weren't ready to play. Someone posted that the NCAA hasn't cleared 7'2", "Z" Ivisic, freshman from Croatia to play. Tuesday, 8:30 can't get here soon enough for me. Duke2/MichSt4 has much less appeal now that both have early season losses.
@stoptheflop Correct - Bradshaw and big O are hurt for a few more weeks so we arenāt playing them at full strength which sucks.
Good test but we should win.
The real test is Maui and then uconn along with @indiana
Anyone see what happened to Tony Bennett last night?
Virginia playing Florida and it's close and it's crunch time. Refs review a play and give it to Virginia. The ESPN announcer who played at Virginia calls the refs over and says on our monitor it looks like you got it wrong. Refs look at it and agree and change the call for Florida. Bennett goes nuts saying how can a TV guy help the refs like that? Virginia overcame that and won anyways, but we'd have had an all time collective coronary had that happened against us.
@wissox my brother told me about it today. here's a little more detail: https://awfulannouncing.com/college-basketball/tony-bennett-furious-cory-alexander-referee-replay-acc-network.html ā
@approxinfinity That's the article where I read about it. Crazy.
Cory Alexander is the worst. We complain about Fran but holy cow watch an ACC conference game sometime. Itās AAU stories punctuated by some remark about how he knows coach X and heāll have his team playing better soon
@kuballin10 Sounds like him and TB arenāt buddies by any stretch of imagination. TB is lucky he didnāt get a T for coming across the court to cuss out the TV announcers. Wasnāt a good look for Virginia basketball on all fronts.
The announcer says one ref asked him about it. Might have been irregular to affect the call, but can you imagine the outcry if the ref asked for help and a UV alum announcer refused?
Baylor getting a tough game from Gardner Webb because of course, why wouldn't they? I mean GW is 160th Ken Pom and Baylor is 10.
Typical officiating crew: Duke 1 foul; MSt 5
@stoptheflop said in Other bball games:
Typical officiating crew: Duke 1 foul; MSt 5
Maybe but like Bilas said multiple times your not going to be fouled being a jump shooting team. - Neither team has played like they gonna knock your socks off. -- Michigan St 4-44 three point shooting for the season so far - -& we thought we were gonna have problems with our shooting.
Would you guys believe me if I told you they are talking about Kansas at the Duke halftime?
Kinda think State might steal this game yet
51-43 at the time I posted this. about 9 left
MSU on a little roll - -down 3
Duke refs shine bright like a diamond
@BeddieKU23 said in Other bball games:
Duke refs shine bright like a diamond
I was just getting ready to post about this - - Doesn't matter if it's rat face Coaching these idiots or Scheyer, every fricken whistle seems to blow every time at their end of the floor.-- They sure love protect Flippo, never ends
With 3 min left, Duke has shot 22 FTs to 5 for MichSt.
@BeddieKU23 Grayson Allen 2.0 gets the craziest whistle Iāve ever seen. Just inexplicable
Duke is consistently unlikable
These champions match ups are something Hunter couldn't touch at Michigan I hope he gives us something to remember about him.
What sounds right? Losing while we are #1 no big deal? Or winning when we are #1 says we like being the man.
I'm just not sure who I despise more - -Kentucky OR Duke. - -Is it possibly for their to be a tie ? lol
@jayballer67 DUKE
@DanR said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 DUKE
I just don't know- - Kentucky smells pretty bad also
30 FT for Duke, 12 for MSU
@jayballer67 If you factor in the whiney fans, then--sure--kentucky is worse, but just looking at 40 years of smug/precious players, Duke's teams/coaches have been far more hatable for my entire lifetime. I don't know any actual real-life Duke fans, but I'm sure they're insufferable too.
The brotherhood, gag!
Can you list even 3 Kentucky players you hate/hated?
Can you list 75 Duke players you hate/hated?
@DanR said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 If you factor in the whiney fans, then--sure--kentucky is worse, but just looking at 40 years of smug/precious players, Duke's teams/coaches have been far more hatable for my entire lifetime. I don't know any actual real-life Duke fans, but I'm sure they're insufferable too.
Well that's true - -1st very solid example would be Mr wonderful -- Grayson Allen - -nothing but a trash player , and I rest my case - -you are correct
I'd add Cousins to Kentucky's all bastard first team. John Wall was irritatingly good, but not hatable. Same with Kidd Gilchrist and Unibrow. Rex Chapman? Prince?
Christian Laettner + Grayson Allen makes it a nearly impossible task to find bigger d-bag players from the same university.
@nuleafjhawk there's a big Duke fan here at school, guess what his son is named? You'll get it!
@Crimsonorblue22 Dookey? Dipwad? Buttface?
Maybe something like Christian?
@nuleafjhawk lol! Last name
@Crimsonorblue22 When you say "here at school", are you talking about KU?
@nuleafjhawk no, where I am.
@DanR said in Other bball games:
Can you list even 3 Kentucky players you hate/hated?
Can you list 75 Duke players you hate/hated?
This is a good point. But the UK fan base has to make up for the difference. Right now, I'm leaning UK as more hated.
Last night's victory is actually sweetening with age.
@Crimsonorblue22 Gotcha. Well, if the last name is Laettner - go ahead and kick him out of school.
@nuleafjhawk you got it!
@Crimsonorblue22 :nauseated_face: :thumbs_down_medium-light_skin_tone: :face_vomiting:
@bskeet said in Other bball games:
@DanR said in Other bball games:
Can you list even 3 Kentucky players you hate/hated?
Can you list 75 Duke players you hate/hated?
This is a good point. But the UK fan base has to make up for the difference. Right now, I'm leaning UK as more hated.
Last night's victory is actually sweetening with age.
Where do you run into Kentucky fans? Iāve maybe seen one die hard in the wild. Rare species in sw Kansas. The brotherhood is more present.
Mike Phillips and Rick Robey. Just hated 'em. Can't remember why after nearly 47 years; maybe it seemed like they mugged everybody. But since they played for UK, I'm comfortable keeping it going.
I always hated the coach of Duke more than the players except for the two being mentioned, except never hated Laettner, so it comes down to tripper boy. Someone help me remember why Laettner is hated?
@dylans said in Other bball games:
@bskeet said in Other bball games:
@DanR said in Other bball games:
Can you list even 3 Kentucky players you hate/hated?
Can you list 75 Duke players you hate/hated?
This is a good point. But the UK fan base has to make up for the difference. Right now, I'm leaning UK as more hated.
Last night's victory is actually sweetening with age.
Where do you run into Kentucky fans? Iāve maybe seen one die hard in the wild. Rare species in sw Kansas. The brotherhood is more present.
Virtually. And drawing on a lifetime of encounters. Not just 21st century.
I know this is not exactly sociologically approved, but my 2012 NC game experience taught me all I needed to know about Kentucky fans. The French Quarter and Superdome is a great venue for this game because everything is walkable. So all day Monday my wife and I were wandering around with fans of both kinds. Easily identified by the shirts/hats being worn. A kentucky fan walks by with a t shirt that says "this bitch bleeds kentucky blue". I couldn't believe someone would walk around wearing a shirt calling themselves a bitch. I saw similar crude shirts affiliated with Kentucky that day. I know I may have missed one or two that may have been off color Jayhawk shirts, but I didn't see any.
Game time. We're half way up the upper deck in a very neutral fan section. Right in front of us are a group of 8-10 Kentucky fans. They're all young enough to be my kids, but looking like recent college grads. They're standing. Ball is tipped, Kentucky scores, I'm thinking OK, they'll sit down now. No one else is standing. I ask them if they could please sit down and one of them points to the big screen on the scoreboard and says "you can just watch it up there." I still can't believe he said it and I still can't believe I didn't 'accidentally' bump into him sending him tumbling down the steep upper deck.
Classy, I met several, arrogant, rude, redneck, etc, I saw a lot.
@dylans said in Other bball games:
@wissox There was a screen print store on Mass street briefly that had some off color Jayhawk t-shirts until they got shut down by the university. āI bleed crimson and blue, therefore I crap purpleā is the only one I remember though.
Joe College and I still have several shirts from them including the always classy "Muck Fizzou" shirt. Also have some others in regards to Missouri, KSU, amd Texas.
@Texas-Hawk-10 I loved Joe College, still have my Hawk football āour coach can eat your coachā shirt somewhere.
14 Arkansas goes down to UNCG, 78-72.
Kim Mulkey suspended the arrogant Angel Reese for some unknown reasons from LSU womens basketball.
UConn coach also thinks his coaching box includes 4 ft of the court when the ball is in play. Every made basket by the opponent, he's 4 ft on the court talking to his guard as he brings the ball up. Mgbako started for Indiana but no help offensively or defensively in the first half.
@stoptheflop Uconn looks like they might go back to back which would suck.
Canāt stand Hurley.
@kuballin10 said in Other bball games:
@stoptheflop Uconn looks like they might go back to back which would suck.
Canāt stand Hurley.
I don't think you realize how bad Indiana is. I watched their first 3 games. One of the worst P5 teams that is supposed to be decent that I have ever seen. They don't play defense at all. Mgbako doesn't even try on defense.
If we don't blow out Indiana I will be very down on this KU team.
Mgbako had 2 points in the Indiana loss. Played 23 minutes.
K-State down 19 to Miami at the half, 47-28
Refs really keeping Lewisville in the game. 31 FT attempts L; Tx 17
Did we recruit Sky Clark? - -20 points for Louisville today
@BShark December road game and Ware hasnāt been bad. They make some shots and we are off can be the easy unexpected L before break.
I think we win but seeing a loss isnāt impossible heck already been some crazy upsets early this year.
I agree they look bbbaadddd but any given night you never know
So Missouri lost to previously winless, kenpom #309 Jackson State tonight.
@Gorilla72 said in Other bball games:
Mgbako had 2 points in the Indiana loss. Played 23 minutes.
K-State down 19 to Miami at the half, 47-28
So, KSU lost to Miami by 8, but not sure how much to read into it. KSU was 4-28 from 3; Miami was 12-24. Don't think either of those will happen often, esp. the combination.
@BShark said in Other bball games:
So Missouri lost to previously winless, kenpom #309 Jackson State tonight.
lmao , dang probably won't be able to sleep tonight now
Ya all remember Jaedon LaDee ? - -was at TCU - -transferred to San Diego St. -- Off to a great start this Season, went off for 34/17 against Washington in the championship game - -he also had game of 27/11 - -& 25/8 so far got these all in this tourney. - -Averaging 26.8 ppg right now & 10.6 rpg. - -Strong numbers , were we recruiting him at one time ?
@nuleafjhawk I had to google the name, but yes, I think it was.
Gonzaga up on Purdue at half, 35-30. Lead had been bigger. Edey @ 15 with half Purdueās points. 7-8 at the line though. Gonzaga playing physical with him.
@Gorilla72 Been watching another game but Purdue has gone on a run it looks like.
UConn hot
@Crimsonorblue22 uconn is the best team Iāve seen by far. They are nasty and play free without thinking.
Whatever Hurley is doing is working.
Badgers play their first great game of the year after a real dud against Providence and a never had a chance close loss against Rocky Top. They destroyed Virginia 65-41 which was ranked 24th but prolly won't be after that debacle.
Texas missin one of their main players , seen him last night pretty dam good player
Ya Sheddrick is who I was thinking of - -dropped 27 points last night pretty solid, they missing him for sure
UCLAās offense is painful
Marquette isnāt that good either. Theyāre not skilled but boy do they play hard
Looks like Shaka Smart has another crack at Kansasā¦
@FarmerJayhawk said in Other bball games:
Marquette isnāt that good either. Theyāre not skilled but boy do they play hard
No one is good! In all of college basketball! Wide open year imo.
Is this NIL creating parity?
@approxinfinity said in Other bball games:
Is this NIL creating parity?
That plus some missed development time with younger guys due to covid.
Duke losing to 1-5 Southern Indiana at home at the half.
Baylor looks pretty dam solid-- - - -deep bench
Thru Feast Week, B12 has not been quite as dominant as some prior years, but still has a good collection of P5 and other quality wins, including a few against ranked teams: Kentucky, Tennessee, USC, Auburn, San Diego State, Utah, NC State, Florida, Iowa, and Michigan. Only OSU and WVU have bad losses.
Not worth another thread, but just read that Tony Gwynn played college hoops at SDState and had 590 assists in his career. He had 434 strikeouts in his 20 year MLB career. It must drive him nuts to watch guys strike out as much as they do these days.
Kentucky is putting it to Miami by almost 30 points
KSU currently in OT with noted powerhouse Oral Roberts.
@Texas-Hawk-10 historically ORU has been pretty good. I guess they suck this year?
ORU beat us about 20 years ago I believe.
UNC might actually be good this year. And we couldāve had one of their best players. Sigh.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Other bball games:
UNC might actually be good this year. And we couldāve had one of their best players. Sigh.
UNC making Tennessee look silly, they look pretty decent in this 1st half anyways. -Your right would of been nice to have gotten Ingram
UNC put 61 up on Rocky Top in the first half. I was counting that as a good win for us over them.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Other bball games:
UNC might actually be good this year. And we couldāve had one of their best players. Sigh.
Deep sigh.
UConn has a NCAA record of 24 double digit wins vs. non conf opponents.
@wissox said in Other bball games:
@BShark Who could we have had and why didn't we have him?
Harrison Ingram was pretty interested in KU. To the level that lots of people assumed he would end up at KU.
It seemed like in general we were pretty committed to playing KJ at the 4 and went out of our way to not recruit players that would interfere with that.
The Hogs giving ol Duke quite a tussle at half up by one. - -Crowd pretty revved up- - -SOOOOOOOOOOOOWEEEEEEEE - -GO RAZORBACKS
@jayballer67 - down goes Duke, 80-75. They almost came back all the way.
Louisville had one player, a 4 star freshman tell his coach he couldn't play because the team didn't have the kind of tights he likes to play in. Keep in mind he'd never worn that kind while playing with them before either.
I'd be like son, there's a real nice coach down the road go play for him. I'd yank his scholarship so fast he'd be on the bus home by the time of the opening tip.
I wonder what Danny said to him who's an assistant there now.
@Gorilla72
Musselman had to withstand Duke's inside game and got Duke in foul trouble early and blocked 10 shots but had to because they gave up 11 offensive rebounds. Filipowski showed up in the second half with 22 points in the half and he is the real deal. Arkansas played defense as hard as they could all game and fumbled away, during the last 6 minutes, their 14 point lead. It didn't seem Duke was that deep on the bench.
If Hunter and Kevin get 40 (doable), KJ and DaJuan get 20 (eh ?)and Elmarko, Parker, The Furph, McDowell and Timberlake get three each that's 75 and with our defense we will be in every game. Is that too much to ask? This means some nights we need to pick each other up. Uh-huh.
@wissox There may be more to the Louisville story. The player suffered a groin strain when they played in New York, and the tights were a compression style. Could simply be that the player was scared of hurting it again, and needed to work through that reluctance. If it was medically related, not a good look for the coach's cavalier comments.
@wissox On the other hand, looks like this guy played 30 mins 6 days after the last game in NY, so maybe he was milking it or maybe the pain got miserable (been there, done that). In NY Empire Classic, he played 25 mins on the 19th, 17 mins the next night. Can't find details on injury but several articles mention he has been trying to play with it. Not a starter.
The coach was asked if it was due to the injury, and said he had "no idea".
I always try to figure out what's really going on when something as weird as this is reported... and when what is reported has nothing from the other person.
Creighton just putting a good ol country ass whuppin on Okie St at half
Purdue loses in OT to Northwestern
Wisconsin Marquette on Fox right now. Good game so far.
Wisconsin currently bitch slapping Marquette.
Wisconsin does not look overly athletic.
Wondering if the KU-MU game was just a weird one off? How the hellā¦confused.
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Other bball games:
Wisconsin currently bitch slapping Marquette.
Wisconsin does not look overly athletic.
Wondering if the KU-MU game was just a weird one off? How the hellā¦confused.
I believe Shaka had his team pumped up from the get-go with a chip on their shoulder. KU didnāt, unfortunately. Weāll see over the long run, as Marquette has Texas up next, with 2 league games each against UConn, Creighton and Villanova. No other ranked teams on their schedule at this point.
Not sad to see Shaka Smart lose. Good job, Wisconsin
On Wisconsin!
Numbers one, three and four go down. Houston got away with one.
Kohl center was a factor in that one. During the Bo Ryan years it had a rep as one of the toughest places to play. Big seating capacity, tightly packed in seats and I've heard it very loud before. Today was like one of those old days. It's UW's 2nd ranked win holding Virginia to 41 last week.
Shaka is punk, take that L
KSUCK getting beat at home by North Alabama
Seeing results of othr games - - looks like we could move back up to 2nd behind Arizona as Purdue # 1- - - - -Marquette # 3- - - & # 4 U Conn all have been beaten
Man... FSU completely disintegrated against UNC.
North Alabama and KSU now in OT refs took control and fouled out half of NAs team
Down goes Duke to GT !!
KSU escapes with a 75-74 win while shooting 48 free throws. Imagine if we shot that many in Allen.
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
North Alabama and KSU now in OT refs took control and fouled out half of NAs team
I was listening to K/State broadcast team and I think unless I was mistaking that K/State was shooting their FORTY SIXTH FREE THROW - -and yet people say they get screwed when they play at the phog
Kentucky down 8 at halftime at home against UNC-Wilmington...
GO SEAHAWKS
18 Villanova goes down to Drexel. Tough weekend for the big east.
Rupp Rafters is very entertaining this afternoon
UK fans were convinced last night that they were the best team in college basketball, so this is funny.
They actually might be with a different coach tbh
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Other bball games:
UK fans were convinced last night that they were the best team in college basketball, so this is funny.
They actually might be with a different coach tbh
Kentucky posters on Rupp Rafters are just having a fit. They mention all the favorable call KU gets several times. One fan wants to burn the new floor at Rupp
Down goes Kentucky - -- AT RUPP against UNC Wilmington - So it isn't soo Cal lol
Kentucky down 7 with 3 sec left and Cal calls TO. Why? Longest last 60 sec of a game ever.
@stoptheflop yes like when a team fouls in 12 point game with under a minute to go.
Well a KU win versus a top 5 opponent coupled with a Dook and UK loss nearly pulling of the hat trick with the refs bailing out KSUCK. Iām saying itās a good weekend
Rough time for upper rank --- - but not our guys - - # 1 - -# 3 - -# 4 - - # 7- - #8- - # 12- - & # 18 - -all go down - -maybe Parity ?
@jayballer67 said in Other bball games:
Rough time for upper rank --- - but not our guys - - # 1 - -# 3 - -# 4 - - # 7- - #8- - # 12- - & # 18 - -all go down - -maybe Parity ?
I'm still remembering the E Ill game being way to close for comfort. We could have been like Kentucky
@stoptheflop said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 said in Other bball games:
Rough time for upper rank --- - but not our guys - - # 1 - -# 3 - -# 4 - - # 7- - #8- - # 12- - & # 18 - -all go down - -maybe Parity ?
I'm still remembering the E Ill game being way to close for comfort. We could have been like Kentucky
Ya very true , and yet - -Good teams even when they are struggling on a bad day - -seem to find some how some way to still win
Kentucky bringing in that new court with a loss
Wild day of hoops. Great sports day so far!
@Woodrow said in Other bball games:
Wild day of hoops. Great sports day so far!
ELITE day of college sports holy moly.
See the TCU game?
Who's 6th?
A big 12 member - Houston
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Other bball games:
See the TCU game?
Miller was definitely out a bounds. A shame that couldn't be reviewed.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Other bball games:
@BShark then we could review everything. Or I guess you could get 2 reviews.
I found it weird because they seem to review so much in the last minute or so anyway. But yeah, maybe a can of worms they don't want to open.
@BShark said in Other bball games:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Other bball games:
@BShark then we could review everything. Or I guess you could get 2 reviews.
I found it weird because they seem to review so much in the last minute or so anyway. But yeah, maybe a can of worms they don't want to open.
I've been beating this drum a lot. A bang bang play happens in the first minute of a game, that play can make a difference in final outcomes of a game if refs get it wrong. It makes zero sense.
Another end of game thing that bugs me is there's a play that the result is the clock stopping. Refs go and waste time looking to see if they need to add .45 seconds to the clock. Of course they don't do that any other time than then. If you want to get the game clock right, then do that on every stoppage. And of course, that would just be stupid.
Not ranked but Auburn goes down to App St.---Watching a couple future opp this yr - - -Wichita St playing Mizzery on ESPN 2
Dam , Wichita St with 6 turnovers in less then four minutes to start the game lol
Wichita St sloppy ball. 18 turnovers with still 11:30 to go in the game.- - Missouri doesn't impress me ya, they got three seven footers led by goofy Conner Vanover 7'5 - another 7 foot freshman - -neither very impressive --neither one impress --Hunter should be able to hold against either one
Vanover from Cal to Arkansas to Oral Roberts to Missouri.
Average player who, when he started, may have made Chet Holmgren look fatter. And a great song.
I once knew a man, a skinny man, a skinny man from hoboken. And if i told you how skinny he was youd think that i was jokin.
JMU 8-0 is ranked 18th. Duke is ranked 22nd. Sweet!
Jerome Tang is on a heater today. First he complained about attendance being low, then he complained about the big east challenge forcing him to play a real game š¦ View Tweet
He really wants it both ways. Even the KU crowd wasn't really juiced for EIU.
-FAU & Illinois in a tight game with 15:00 left.
-George Mason is getting schooled by Tennessee.
- K-State up on Villanova by at halftime.
I guess I'm rooting for UConn over NC.
Good lord, the UConn coaches are animated. Don't they know their hysterics won't score a single point; more of a distraction to their players. Hurley walks all the way out to the 3 pt line while the ball is in play
UCONN up 8 at the half. Making the win look good, but gotta say Harrison Ingram looks like a pretty big transfer miss so far
Teams take on the personalities of their coaches which is why UConn is so full of d bags
@rcjhdraft said in Other bball games:
UCONN up 8 at the half. Making the win look good, but gotta say Harrison Ingram looks like a pretty big transfer miss so far
Ugh he wouldāve fit so great alongside Hunter
You know for a lackluster of a game Hunter seemed to have, he fished with 14 and 12.
Timberlake ended up getting 17 minutes, nearly double anyone else on the bench. Mari still in the dog house with just 5 minutes. I think Self was trying to see if Nick could get going at all and it just didnāt work. Honestly donāt see that happening much going forward and I believe Mari has a higher ceiling in every category besides 3 point shooting.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Other bball games:
@rcjhdraft said in Other bball games:
UCONN up 8 at the half. Making the win look good, but gotta say Harrison Ingram looks like a pretty big transfer miss so far
Ugh he wouldāve fit so great alongside Hunter
I did not predict this level of improvement as a shooter from him
Good night for the B12 against the Big East - 4-0. Texas vs. Marquette is last game tonight. B12 has already won the series; believe it is 7-3 now.
The biggest upgrade with Ingram as a 4 would be the ball handling imo
Also I didn't realize that Jaylon Tyson was putting up over 20 a game after becoming eligible. We really hit the worst outcome possible in the portal
@rcjhdraft said in Other bball games:
Also I didn't realize that Jaylon Tyson was putting up over 20 a game after becoming eligible. We really hit the worst outcome possible in the portal
In the case of Tyson, he didn't want another hard ass head coach. We did try.
@BShark said in Other bball games:
@rcjhdraft said in Other bball games:
Also I didn't realize that Jaylon Tyson was putting up over 20 a game after becoming eligible. We really hit the worst outcome possible in the portal
In the case of Tyson, he didn't want another hard ass head coach. We did try.
Fair. Also made me realize the actual worst outcome would've been McCullar leaving and having to start mgbako
Ingram would take KJs minutes. It would be nice to have more depth, but it would come at a cost. Lack of guard depth is more of an issue currently, thanks Arterio. Parker has been a good backup 5, lacks size, but has plenty of hustle.
Ingram sure would have been nice but I'm not doubting KJ. He's motivated to play given his family situation and finds a way to impact the game. He really is a positionless player but he's a very important one to this team.
It seems like a 1,1,3,3,5 lineup this year.
Man it's a bad day to be a KSU fan. First their golden boy goes to A&M now there are rumors Tomlin is out the door
Karma! They were really mean!
@FarmerJayhawk said in Other bball games:
Man it's a bad day to be a KSU fan. First their golden boy goes to A&M now there are rumors Tomlin is out the door
You seen Fitz melting down yet?
12Texas at 8Marquette tonight at 7 should be fun. FS1.
Not fun for Texas.
Tanned. Rested. Ready. !alt text ā
@FarmerJayhawk Hairy Frank Martin gave you away.
@approxinfinity ha! All Iām saying is they might be running it back come spring
@FarmerJayhawk looks those rumors on Tomlin were true.
Give Huggins a free year of recruiting and he has demonstrated the ability to really put together a class.
How funny would it be if Self got Tomlin š¤£, donāt need him but could play at the end of the semester.
It would be funny actually. Bruce Weber level stuff
Since Tomlin's exit is tied to some real messed up stuff like we just went through with Morris I'd hope the staff wasn't going down this road ever again.
@BeddieKU23 ya in all seriousness not a good idea in the slightest but the Mildcat faithful would lose their minds
It's funny I immediately was like we should get him to troll tang and the kitties but then reality set in. He's certainly a talented player that I wasn't excited to face this year and hopefully he doesn't land somewhere within the conference
Tylor Perry will likely be suspended soon for taking Tomlin to the protest.
@BeddieKU23 said in Other bball games:
It's funny I immediately was like we should get him to troll tang and the kitties but then reality set in. He's certainly a talented player that I wasn't excited to face this year and hopefully he doesn't land somewhere within the conference
Don't think he will end up in the Big 12. - -In the podcast they was talking saying out of Tomlin's respect for Coach Tang wouldn't want to do tht to his Coach , saying they just feel he will land elsewhere outside the conference
Kentucky is getting great bench scoring from Bradshaw, Dillingham and Sheppard. 22 pt with 15 min to play. KU really needs to find much better scoring from the bench
Arizona just absolutely curb stomping Wisconsin's ass up by 27 points with like 4:18 to go in the game - -they look pretty dam good.
And Auburn beat Indiana by 28 - put up 104 on them....
K-State won again. 8-2. š¤
3 B12 teams knocked from the unbeaten ranks yesterday. BYU, Cincinnati, and TCU all took their first loss (although none bad losses). Only 7 unbeaten teams remaining, and the B12 still has 3 of them - Houston, Baylor and Oklahoma. Arizona and Clemson are the only other P5 unbeaten teams.
Arizona looked like the number one team when they played Wisconsin. That was a tremendous performance. Canāt wait to get them in conference, finally a worthy opponent!
The interesting thing going back to Tomlin is the president of the university says his dismissal comes from more than the October 30th issue in aggieville. Sounds like he has involved in something more serious or is a repeat offender. Remember this a lot of the same administration that hid Wainwright(former KSU player) was involved in a drive by shooting in January but kept in under wraps til the season was over.
@dylans said in Other bball games:
Arizona looked like the number one team when they played Wisconsin. That was a tremendous performance. Canāt wait yo get them in conference, finally a worthy opponent!
They look REALLY good
@kjayhawks I can't understand why they left him hanging? Did they think something would change? Maybe they thought whatever he did before would never be found out, but it was leaked? I'm not saying he should've been on the team, just it appears he was cleared by the law. Very fishy!
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Other bball games:
@kjayhawks I can't understand why they left him hanging? Did they think something would change? Maybe they thought whatever he did before would never be found out, but it was leaked? I'm not saying he should've been on the team, just it appears he was cleared by the law. Very fishy!
KSU is shady about that stuff. Doubt we ever hear the full story.
USC fell to Long Beach St. in Bronny James' debut.
Colorado whooped Miami and Memphis beat Texas A&M.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Will be interesting to see how long Bronny plays college ball. Doesnāt look like an nba caliber guy at this point. But LeBron says he wants to wait to play NBA ball with his son before retiring.
Tomlin announced he's transferring to Memphis.
The last two weeks before the new year are kind of down times for marquee games. Saturday is kind of an exception but that's only because Bill doesn't shy away from challenging matchups ever.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Other bball games:
Tomlin announced he's transferring to Memphis.
Looking for in-town mentoring from Morant.
Chicago St has to be the worst program in NCAA history. They've only had 3 winning seasons in their 40 year history and two of those were their first two seasons. They've never beat a ranked team. Tonight in the 2nd half they are beating 25th ranked Northwestern in the 2nd half. Imagine beating #1 ranked Purdue and being a first ever ranked team to lose to them in the span of a month?
@Crimsonorblue22 Someone named Gerald Gillion. Never heard of him, he has a reputation as a good recruiter. Only one Chicago kid on his roster even though the campus is several miles from Simeon HS and some other powerhouse programs.
It's official, Chicago St. 75, Northwestern 73. I actually looked at every schedule in their 40 year existence and didn't even see a win against a major conference team. So does this mean Chicago St. is better than Purdue?
@Crimsonorblue22 Oh, I never heard of him but he coached 5 years at UIC. Never coached at Chicago St though.
1 vs #3 tomorrow airing on ......Peacock.
@Crimsonorblue22 Not being reported anywhere else.
@Crimsonorblue22 Good I want to beat them full strength so we don't have to listen to them, like Kentucky fans, say we didn't face them while they're at full strength.
Looking at the Gonzaga box score, the 3 starting Gs were the only Gs who played and rack 37, 39 and 40 min. All 3 bench players in the game were Fs. Strange, maybe desperate lineup.
Baylor is getting absolutely massacred, down 28 to Michigan St. at halftime.
Holy crap , just seen this score. - - -what the hell happened here ?
Wow!
just stunned what is happening to Baylor today
Does everyone have peacock to watch AZ v Purdue? Somehow its on my tv; thanks to my young daughters
@stoptheflop said in Other bball games:
Does everyone have peacock to watch AZ v Purdue? Somehow its on my tv; thanks to my young daughters
It seems like I have just about everything BUT Peacock, which is unfortunate because that will be a good game.
Peacock is only $6
Ya I just got it to watch the game.
Really good game AZ vs Purdue
Iām super pro streaming but thatās the one I donāt have (except Netflix, screw those guys)
It's worth the six dollars so far. Really good game
@KirkIsMyHinrich said in Other bball games:
It's worth the six dollars so far. Really good game
Purdue played 10 players in the first half scoring 49. Very fast paced game. Purdue bench only scored 4 of the 49. Wow, both teams shot 57%
@FarmerJayhawk Amen. Netflix is awful
I was watching the Baylor game and a player took the ball out of bounds by the scorers table/bench side and took about 3 steps. They said he had to stay inside the coach's box. Didn't call walk. So did I get that wrong?
@Crimsonorblue22 Youāre right as far as I know. Canāt move unless a basket was made.
He lost possession but they didn't call walk. He took a few steps before he stepped over the coach's line to the box, then the ref called it. He walked all over before they called it. I was confused.
Big 12 ref.
Hubert got outcoached by Cal. Fire him
@FarmerJayhawk the final four run is the only thing that kept him there this long. I give it one or two more years before he is out, that just bought him time.
@kjayhawks yep, I agree. UNC also doesnāt have a Chancellor right now so that makes firing a basketball coach very complicated
@FarmerJayhawk said in Other bball games:
Hubert got outcoached by Cal. Fire him
Lol. They won by 5, we beat kentucky by 4. This doesnt seem like the ālast strawā offense?
@Crimsonorblue22 A āspotā throw-in, is actually a box 3 feet wide with unlimited depth. The player is allowed to move within the box, holding the ball. In fact, the āedgeā of the box extends to the ceiling. So a player could go to the right side of the box, and have nearly his entire body outside the box, but as long as one toe was within the space, even if it was up in the air, he is legal. He could then run to the left side and do the same. So if he has long legs, he could cover quite a distance and still be legal.
@imajayhawk is this new?
@Crimsonorblue22 No. That has been the rule for the past 20 years or so. Most players and fans donāt know it. It often gets enforced differently in college (calls often made for TV audience) then in high school, even though the rule is the same at both levels.
@approxinfinity tbh I wouldāve canned him after last year
Tang came to elevate. Not get boatraced at home to a terrible Nebraska team.
Losing by 16 at home to a Nebraska team that only shot 4 FTs the entire game is something.
K/State took at good ol ass kickin today at Bramlage -62-46- - -46 points for the game. - -They scored a total of TWELVE POINT in the 2nd half. -- K/State had 40 rebounds for the game - - -
Nebraska had TWO players that had THIRTY rebounds by themselves. - -- - got outscored 31-12 - - -TWELVE in the 2nd half - - -K/State shot 4-25 in the 2nd half- - for 16 % -- Dam what an awesome display
Heard Trinity High School was looking fora Scrimmage Kitty's ,maybe you can play them
By a half arsed football school.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Other bball games:
Tang came to elevate. Not get boatraced at home to a terrible Nebraska team.
Uh, saying that Nebraska is terrible is a bit over the top. They are 9-2. Most of their wins are against powderpuffs, but they did beat Michigan St. last game and Oregon State earlier. And, now KSU on the road. They may well end up toward the back end of the B10, but...
Btw, KSU was 4-30 from 3. That isn't going to win many games...
Jerome Tang told us that Perry is the best shooter in America. Btw he's shooting like 30% against high major comp this year so far.
@BeddieKU23 said in Other bball games:
He'll be lights out against KU as he's played well against us in the past. I'm surprised by his numbers so far but I'm not complaining if it continues when he plays us too.
Absolutely guaranteed lol
In other Basketball games, I finally got to go watch my neighbor across the street play tonight in middle school. Been shooting with him for the last few years. He had 35 points and 2 dunks in one half. Didnāt play in the second.
@kjayhawks I hope you acted as a KU coach in proxy and offered him on the spot. Junior High and dunking?
@kjayhawks and you called Bill Self and told him to get his butt to wherever you are....
@wissox @nuleafjhawk heās already 6ā1 with a 6ā3 wing span. I told him if heās keeps working heāll be a college player for sure. Hard to tell how good he really is against the small time school in our league but his dad is 6ā6. He hasnāt beat me yet but last time we played (I won by 1) heās not strong yet but he probably gonna spank me any day now lol. I always joke with him a lot but told him tonight heās a better ball player right now than I ever was.
Wow is Morehead State better than us? They've led IU nearly all game by 10 or so, despite IU receiving a generous whistle all night. In the short time I've typed this IU has cut it down to 2 aided of course by and an 1 that was suspicious.
@wissox I hate watching foul mismatches like this. It just seems obvious that refs in situations like this will call it one way. We get some like that too at AFH of course, but it's kind of unfair to watch a team just get screwed over by the zebras. 25-12 foul count right now.
@wissox said in Other bball games:
@wissox I hate watching foul mismatches like this. It just seems obvious that refs in situations like this will call it one way. We get some like that too at AFH of course, but it's kind of unfair to watch a team just get screwed over by the zebras. 25-12 foul count right now.
Ya phantom calls, - -now if you ak Kentucky -KU hires the refs for games at home AND on the road lol
@wissox said in Other bball games:
@wissox I hate watching foul mismatches like this. It just seems obvious that refs in situations like this will call it one way. We get some like that too at AFH of course, but it's kind of unfair to watch a team just get screwed over by the zebras. 25-12 foul count right now.
It was pretty bad tonight in Bloomington. KU really hasn't had anything like that yet this year.
Some interesting stats here. If only we got a whistle like North Carolina!
Marquette struggling with Providence tonight. Both 9-2 coming in. Marquette down 14 at the under 8 timeout.
Marquette loses to Providence by 15. Had 2-3 players out that normally play.
@Gorilla72 Providence owns the state of Wisconsin!
@dylans said in Other bball games:
@wissox Hereās how much Marquette ranks to me, I had zero idea it was in Wisconsin.
Spot on , like who cares Marq means squat lol
@wissox said in Other bball games:
@dylans There's a pretty good rivalry in basketball between them and Wisconsin. They're looked at as the uppity snobs and UW the farm boy school.
No wonder Shaka fits in at Marquette so wll
The love announcers have for Duke is nauseating.
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Even though Baylor got blistered by Michigan St - still think they really solid. -patoh3 , Bilas is a Duke grad/former player, you probably knew that but man is a whining little B,--almost every time Duke come down the floor - - -lot of contact - - lot of contact. I know what you mean
MIST shot 67% from deep.
I don't think Bilas is bad at all. Have never minded listening to him. Knowledgeable, professional.
Good slate of games tonight. OU/UNC, of course the Baylor game, Nova/Creighton, Bama/Zona, Northwestern/AzState.
Seton Hall beat UConn by 15 tonight.
@wissox said in Other bball games:
I don't think Bilas is bad at all. Have never minded listening to him. Knowledgeable, professional.
bad tonight his favoritism was very obvious. most of the time ok but not tonight
@jayballer67 I generally like Bilas, but heās a Dukie and it shows through from time to time.
Confirmation bias.
Bad night to be ranked Big East team as Villanova also knocked off Creighton tonight.
Oklahoma is no longer undefeated after losing to UNC.
There are now only 3 undefeated teams left in CBB. Houston, James Madison, and Ole Miss.
And Seton Hall beating UConn, Radford beating WV, these pre-holiday upsets should be a warning to our guys. That Temple beat down years ago still stings, so I hope KU doesn't take Yale lightly.
@stoptheflop Bill gave Furphy the night off, so I donāt think the team exactly has this one circled. Definitely could be a trap game in the Christmas lul (asu comes to mind), but I donāt think this team tolerates losing. They seem to hate losing more than they love winning - a good thing in my book.
@dylans - Iām really glad KU isnāt playing the standard road game just before Christmas. Seems like KU has lost several against lesser teams.
IIRC, the team could play for playerās flights to home towns after such a road game. I suppose with the advent of NIL money, itās no longer a big deal.
Watching TCU vs Old Dominion in the Hawaiian Airlines Diamond Head Classic. Udeh is again getting significant playing time.
@Gorilla72 Is Udeh doing anything with his time tonight? His season averages are not great.
I suspect that that was the deal promised to him and his mentor to start, but did not specify the majority of minutes. Dixon is upholding his part of the agreement. He is the starter with the least amount of minutes on the team.
Zuby Ejiofor at St Johnās is not starting but getting almost 11 minutes per game. Averaging 4.0 pts, 3.5 rebounds and 1.2 blocks per game. Also, 2 fouls and 0.7 turnovers per game.
Some guy on Maryland had a line of 0 points, 0 boards, 0 blocks, you get the idea, and 5 fouls.
I honestly wish one of them stayed but I got ridiculed pretty hard on here for saying neither one was ready to be a major contributor at a power school. Looking like a very true statement, tho I think they both will be good players by the time they are thru.
@kjayhawks would they if they never see any time but mop up mins? Hunter could stay. I don't think they improve if they don't get valuable time and I wanted to see them developed.
@Crimsonorblue22 I think they would get 10-12 minutes a game, Braun probably wouldnt be here tho.
@kjayhawks hey did you know the ag teacher that died from your school? So sad!
@Crimsonorblue22 not personally but yes very sad deal
@kjayhawks so young! So many deadly wrecks on that rd. I take that way to Lawrence.
FAU and Arizona coming down to the wire in Vegas.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Other bball games:
FAU and Arizona coming down to the wire in Vegas.
Going to OT tied at 73 after FAU tied it with 7 seconds left.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Been out all day for family matters and just got home, looked at ESPN for scores and saw that. Shocker, but of course I'm still trying to get used to the idea of them being a national power in basketball. In a strange kind of way this validates their run to the FF last year.
Watching that FAU vs Arizona game, man we just look so unathletic compared to top teams right now.
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
Watching that FAU vs Arizona game, man we just look so unathletic compared to top teams right now.
ya I've thought the same. Even though Arizona got beat I think they would give us ALL kinds of trouble,-- I also think Kentucky is really improves, gonna be if not close to thee now gotten a lot better, just quick athletic - -Another team that if we played now would give us fits - - -Deep bench, of course anybody has a deep bench compared to us lol.. Still like our group though , just afraid gonna get really wore down later.
Haha, just saw that Arizona lost again.
@wissox said in Other bball games:
Haha, just saw that Arizona lost again.
Dam Serious ? -I hadn't seen that , who did they lose to ? - - Read an article where some and I think it's a pre mature for this , but some saying they don't think Gonzaga will even make the tourney, I have my doubts about that but they are 9-4 right now
@jayballer67 Lost on the road by 18 to Stanford.
@kjayhawks is anyone really thinking that? Youd think they would learn.
@wissox said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 Lost on the road by 18 to Stanford.
WOW sTANFORD ? -WHAT THE HECK
@jayballer67 Then Haase told his team to enjoy it, will be their biggest win of the year. š¤¦āāļø never admit you won the Super Bowl. š
Watching the Indiana @ Nebraska game. Hoiberg has them playing well!
@Gorilla72 They play Wisconsin next. First tough game Nebby has all year. Their schedule strength is bottom barrel.
In the first 8 minutes, both NC and Clemson have played 9 players. That seems like a lot of subs so early in the game. Many teams aren't playing 9 during an entire game
Not only are the officials bad sometimes, but announcers playing officials can be worse.
Watching a minute of NC vs Clemson.
Carolina guard drives right side of lane, guarded closely, extends his left arm and elbows the defender in the gut. Defender goes down. Refs call a defensive foul. As they show the replay with dudesās elbow clearly extended and whacking the dude in the gutā¦the announcer is like Yes, thatās a good call. If the offensive player would have extended his elbow, that would be offensive. But he didnāt, and kept his arm tucked.
Iām like, huh?
Kentucky & Florida up and down the floor, pretty good game
Looks like UCF will start their Big12 membership 0-5. Being blown out by K-State tonight, followed by games against 4 Top 25 Big12 teams. KU @ UCF Wednesday. It will be a nice respite from the cold for KU men.
Ou isu is really good! Espn+
@Gorilla72 said in Other bball games:
Looks like UCF will start their Big12 membership 0-5. Being blown out by K-State tonight, followed by games against 4 Top 25 Big12 teams. KU @ UCF Wednesday. It will be a nice respite from the cold for KU men.
UCf just looked God Awful
BYU, computer favorite, loses at home to Cincy. The NET moved them down 1 spot from 3 to 4 for their loss.
Big 12 currently sitting at 9 teams inside the top 40 of the NET rankings and 5 teams currently in the top 15.
Iowa St. is the team that baffles me the most as far as its NET ranking. They are sitting at 12th, just one spot behind KU and we're in the top 10 before their loss to Oklahoma yesterday. They've only played 5 games against non Quad 4 teams are just 2-3 in those games.
@Texas-Hawk-10 There's so many oddities in it. Bama it says is 0-5 against quad 1 teams but is ranked 6th in their rankings apparently because they scheduled tough teams I guess.
ISU and Houston tied. Itās now a 36 second game.
ISU freshman coming up big. Wow. Welcome to the B12 Houston.
ISU wins the last 36 seconds and the game! Welcome to the Big12, Cougs.
I think Houston is gonna get woke up a bit this season. Sorry playing on the road at Rice, Wichita state and Tulane aināt Jack compared to the road in this conference.
Lot of good B12 games on espn+ tonight what a joke by the network
Neb up on Purd by 12 with 1:08 left.
Neb won by 16. Shot 50 % from the field, 61 % from 3. Had more steals and blocks than Purd.
61% from 3 is insane
@kjayhawks How about a Top 1o battle between KU and Ou this weekend on ESPN+?
3 of the 4 newcomers to the Big12 lost tonight. The other one plays KU tomorrow. āļø
@Gorilla72 The newcomers combined to win 8 football games in the league all season, led by UCF's 3-6 record. So far those teams in the league are 2-5. Early of course, but not a great start.
Warning Will Smith, Warning. It's upset time in college hoops. I sure hope KU is paying attention and takes care of business against UCF. Nebraska and IState were the big upset winners yesterday. Let's hope the Knights don't get to crow on Thursday. Is 6.5 pts the correct line against the Knights? They lost big to KSt in Manhattan. Maybe they play better at home. I sure hope ESPN+ works better tonight.
@stoptheflop Is someone about to get bitch slapped?
@stoptheflop FYI, KU plays UCF tonight, not Thursday
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
I think Houston is gonna get woke up a bit this season. Sorry playing on the road at Rice, Wichita state and Tulane aināt Jack compared to the road in this conference.
Sure have to agree with ya buddy. Ya know was watching various podcasts this Morning and even though can't stand K/State I like FitzGerald K/State Alum beat writer in his podcasts , brings out some really good points. Kinda funny/witty
Anyways kind of on the line like you mentioned , he said WELCOME to the Big 12 Houston , and talking about the Hilton magic at Hilton. He says he swears to GOD some Iowa St fan has some vodoo lol , and talking about how a lot of teams lose at Hilton. - Then he talks and tells Houston this isn't the AAC , and says Houston gonna take some losses this yr and says sure Houston MAY win the big 12 but they gonna take maybe 3-4 losses. - -Saying in the AAc Houston played just well enough not to lose- - -THIS is not the AAC, points well said Fitz. - -WELCOME to the Big 12 Houston
6th year senior at Indiana Xavier Johnson gets ejected for grabbing the privates of the Rutgers guy who set a screen on him. Indiana is a mess and a half and I wish it weren't so. College basketball needs IU to become competent in basketball I think. Not positive that he told refs that he was working on his ball handling skills.
@wissox said in Other bball games:
6th year senior at Indiana Xavier Johnson gets ejected for grabbing the privates of the Rutgers guy who set a screen on him. Indiana is a mess and a half and I wish it weren't so. College basketball needs IU to become competent in basketball I think. Not positive that he told refs that he was working on his ball handling skills.
Wonder how the Rutgers player graded him out on that task lol
@BeddieKU23 Yeah I think fans are getting pissed.
TCU beats Oklahoma.
@wissox said in Other bball games:
6th year senior at Indiana Xavier Johnson gets ejected for grabbing the privates of the Rutgers guy who set a screen on him. Indiana is a mess and a half and I wish it weren't so. College basketball needs IU to become competent in basketball I think. Not positive that he told refs that he was working on his ball handling skills.
hilarious!
Kentucky loses on the road to Texas A&M after the officials tired so hard to win it for them. Called an offensive foul on A&M for kicking out feet on a made 3 that they nullified. Then gave UK a foul shooting a 28 foot fade away 3 that was garbage. Cracks me up why these calls arenāt front page news like any questionable call that goes our way.
This league is just an absolute brutal blood bath
Meltdown for the mildcats. You really love to see it
@FarmerJayhawk I enjoyed it lol
Bye bye bye Houston to TCU on layup
B12 will be a gauntlet. You could argue this year, more than any other year - -while OU and Texas are still here -- the B12 winner will be battle tested.
I think TCU is a solid club, WVU beats the shorthorns lol
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
I think TCU is a solid club, WVU beats the shorthorns lol
This conference is nuts!
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
I think TCU is a solid club, WVU beats the shorthorns lol
TCU is a good team and should be in the NCAA Tournament this season. The Big 12 had 10 teams in the top 50 on the NET rankings entering today. Texas losing to West Virginia is worse than our loss to UCF as WVU is barely inside the top 200 of the NET rankings.
The Big 12 looks like it's probably going to be a 9 bid league this year. Texas will have a shot to make it 10, but they have work to do after that loss to WVU today.
@Texas-Hawk-10 so so so early! Lol. But i dig it.
@approxinfinity said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 so so so early! Lol. But i dig it.
The Big 12 has 9 in the top 37 now after yesterday which is historically safe for getting an at large bid. Texas dropped to 59 from 44 which both are historically outside at large territory. We're getting to the point now though where we're going to be seeing less dramatic movement after wins and losses unless especially unless it's an especially bad loss like UT's yesterday. Based on that, it appears like the B12 is in line to get 9 teams into the NCAA Tournament this year.
Illinois lost. this past weeks top 11, Purdue, lost, Houston Lost, Zona lost, UConn survived, Rocky Top, loss, Mildcats, loss, 2022 runnerup, won, OU, two time loser, Marquette, two time loser. Of course our favorite team did too. That's 9 of 11 teams losing that were highly ranked.
@wissox said in Other bball games:
Illinois lost. this past weeks top 11, Purdue, lost, Houston Lost, Zona lost, UConn survived, Rocky Top, loss, Mildcats, loss, 2022 runnerup, won, OU, two time loser, Marquette, two time loser. Of course our favorite team did too. That's 9 of 11 teams losing that were highly ranked.
Well I guess you can try to look at this positively, it was just a terrible week for top ranked teams, maybe not quite as bad -- it was bad , but losses everywhere
I do not consider losing on road to a decent conference foe as an upset
Chaotic week for the Top 10ish. Gonna be like that every week perhaps too.
We should not have lost to UCF. It was also considered a Quad 1 loss for the NET. They do have a Top 20 defense with a well-respected coach, we didn't give them proper respect either. This was their conference home opener (first game in Big-12) and their home court environment is legit (very unexpected). I watched them battle BYU to the end Saturday with a chance to win and their fans helped that comeback as well. I was expecting to see a half dead place after winning their super bowl but their fan support is much better then I thought. They might be most athletic team in the league.
@BeddieKU23 said in Other bball games:
Chaotic week for the Top 10ish. Gonna be like that every week perhaps too.
We should not have lost to UCF. It was also considered a Quad 1 loss for the NET. They do have a Top 20 defense with a well-respected coach, we didn't give them proper respect either. This was their conference home opener (first game in Big-12) and their home court environment is legit (very unexpected). I watched them battle BYU to the end Saturday with a chance to win and their fans helped that comeback as well. I was expecting to see a half dead place after winning their super bowl but their fan support is much better then I thought. They might be most athletic team in the league.
very athletic
@AsadZ said in Other bball games:
I do not consider losing on road to a decent conference foe as an upset
UCF isn't a decent conference foe. They're a bottom 3 Big 12 with OSU and WVU and this isn't a Big 12 where every road game is a Quad 1 match up. WVU isn't far off from being a Quad 4 game and KU's game in Stillwater tomorrow is barely a Quad 2 game, almost a Quad 3 game.
We have 8 conference members in the top 25. Houston and Iowa State are looking like a real problem. If someone can go through this with just three losses it would be amazing. If we lose one you can reasonably be assured of other top teams getting beat at at least the same rate. If we can avoid the dreaded under 30 point 1st halves we will win our share of low or high scoring games. The Furph will probably astonish us a few times but as rookies go it will be inconsistent.
At the moment the UCF game is a quad 1 loss
Houston is ranked 5th in the country and is in 7th place in our conference.
I havenāt watched anyone but KU play more than 10 minutes this year. Based off of resume Iād say UNC is a bit over-rated. How does the eye test look? Is UConn fully healthy now? KUās resume is under valued. Theyāve played (and beaten) many of the top teams with more on the schedule. Iād say that KU has as good a shot as anyone of cutting down the nets, but is far from dominant. - Would really like to wind back time and steal a win against Marquette to see how KU looked against Purdue!
Saw on the scores scrolling by that the KU women got their asses handed to them tonight losing by 35 to Texas. I know they upset Baylor over the weekend, but this season has been a disaster for KU. This looking like another season in which KU won't make a post season tournament which would be the 7th time in his 9 seasons that KU has failed to make any postseason tournament. He's made 1 NCAA Tournament and 1 WNIT in his first 8 years. Why is that acceptable?
KU women have made 3 NCAA Tournaments in the past 20 years. Our football program has more bowl appearances in that time. There's no reason why this program shouldn't make it to the NCAA Tournament most seasons with the resources they have, but instead KU has been one of the least successful major conference programs of the past 25 years.
U think losing Nooner has hurt?
@Crimsonorblue22 I don't think Schneider is a good coach at this level. At this rate, we're looking at failing to reach a postseason tournament in 7 of his 9 seasons.
@Texas-Hawk-10 I agree
I thought Nooner might have made a difference last year.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Other bball games:
I thought Nooner might have made a difference last year.
He probably was the biggest reason for the two good seasons Schneider has had here.
I side with @Texas-Hawk-10 i think itās time to move on from Schneider. Heās had 9 seasons to do something with this program and this on paper was good team returning several key players from an NIT championship. Zero reason not to get an at large bid for the NCAA tournament.
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
I side with @Texas-Hawk-10 i think itās time to move on from Schneider. Heās had 9 seasons to do something with this program and this on paper was good team returning several key players from an NIT championship. Zero reason not to get an at large bid for the NCAA tournament.
Ya unfortunately I must agree. I've tried to stay on the ship with Coach S but just not excusable. - -Three Super Seniors come back for this Season , coming off winning the WNIT, & I'm sure they thought there would be a better outcome. Jackson , Franklin , & Kirksgeiter - -plus our 5* freshman who has been in the starting lineup from day one - - He just hasn't got the production/results. -I mean ya have had some stiff competition , U Conn , Virg Tech , Texas & K State - understand, and yete we caught a glimpse of what this team could be when we just kicked $ 4 Baylor's ass.
He is just not getting it done. With the talent he has, he has a pretty solid bench,- just not working anymore, time for a change
Texas loses at home to UCF 77-71. Does it make the loss by KU any better?
@Gorilla72 wvu beat Texas too, crazy!
@Gorilla72 it makes me feel better when Texas loses. UCF I donāt think is that terrible of a team, I could see a scenario where they finish 10 or 11th in this league. WVU and Ok state look really bad. Texas hasnāt looked impressive at all since league play started.
Looking like Houston is gonna even up their record and place a 4 way tie atop the standings.
just like haas been said this league is brutal, absolute blood bath. you better be ready , your A game every night out or your taking the L
Look at UCF beating Texas at Texas, not as bad a some thought it was - -ANYTHING is possible in this league
@jayballer67 Too bad Beard is a horrible human being. He has Miss. playing at a high level. Wouldāve enjoyed those matchups against Texas.
Speaking of Texas, did anyone see where Rodney went off on the UCF players in the hand shaking line about them doing the horns down signal? šš³ Wait til he gets to the sec! There's more on their post game on espn, just can't play sound now.
@Crimsonorblue22 Was just coming here to say that. I'm still upset we lost to them. I'm still upset they're in our league to be honest.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Other bball games:
Speaking of Texas, did anyone see where Rodney went off on the UCF players in the hand shaking line about them doing the horns down signal? šš³ Wait til he gets to the sec! There's more on their post game on espn, just can't play sound now.
Thin skin. He would have melted during the KU - Mizzou hay days.
The whole horns down deal is funny to me. First off win the dang game in which you led by 16 points at home to an inferior team. Secondly if teams arenāt supposed to do horns down, shouldnāt you stop the horns up?
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Other bball games:
Speaking of Texas, did anyone see where Rodney went off on the UCF players in the hand shaking line about them doing the horns down signal? šš³ Wait til he gets to the sec! There's more on their post game on espn, just can't play sound now.
ya saw that, he was saying that's disrespectful, you don't do that , were not going to leet you come into our house and disrespect us takes away from your win. Dawkins said he would review it and if any thing needed to be done then he would take care of it
Wondr what he would of thought when Chew Kennedy and Oklahoma won the championship in the phog and that group how they acted and cutting our nets down after the game
How much time do you all expect Izzo to stick around? I watch a lot of BIG ball of course and I'm just shocked to turn on a game and see them struggling like they are right now with a team like Minnesota. Izzo has had some well publicized confrontations with kids who are increasingly getting under his skin and dissing him. Shocking really to see because a younger Izzo just had utmost respect from his players. He's 68 years old, hanging on longer than most of his peers, but I suppose the thirst to win another ring keeps him pressing on.
I don't think Self would want our players doing that to their players. Now fans, thats different. Somebody wrote about it reminded them when coach K did that to Dillion brooks, exactly my thoughts! Of course, he lied! Rodney also said sh!t. Wasn't he pushing religion on the players too, at TT? To many transfers including coaches, for me to keep up.
@wissox i don't like Izzo, to many cover ups there.
@wissox said in Other bball games:
How much time do you all expect Izzo to stick around? I watch a lot of BIG ball of course and I'm just shocked to turn on a game and see them struggling like they are right now with a team like Minnesota. Izzo has had some well publicized confrontations with kids who are increasingly getting under his skin and dissing him. Shocking really to see because a younger Izzo just had utmost respect from his players. He's 68 years old, hanging on longer than most of his peers, but I suppose the thirst to win another ring keeps him pressing on.
He is sounding like a coach that is about to retire. Just the way he is talking in press conferences he sounds exhausted and over it. I said the same thing about Saban in September.
@Crimsonorblue22 What do you mean cover ups?
Memphis loses a home game to 135 ken pom South Florida. I've been trying to figure out why Memphis is a trendy FF pick right now. Guess I got my answer. Memphis has four wins against ranked teams, none of whom are ranked anymore.
Terrence Shannon got an injunction giving him the right to play again.
Badgers lose to Indiana 53-52....in the 2nd half. Yes that was the 2nd half score and this is not your Badger team of old obviously. Badgers beat them for the 20th straight time in the Kohl Center. Indy isn't that bad, but they just look bad, trailing by 23, having a guy ejected for the 3rd time in the last 4 games for a flagrant foul. Indiana twitter is in full meltdown.
@wissox Indiana is on my list of 5 most despised bb programs.
In no particular order:
Duke, Indiana, Memphis, Kentucky, Texas
KSU used to be but when they got rid of Squeaky they got an automatic 5 year release for good behavior. Same thing happened to Indiana when they got rid of Bobby Knight, but Sampson put them back into the depths. Texas is there just...because.
Duke never fired K so they have not earned their way out even though he is gone.
Memphis and UK... the definition of cesspools.
@mayjay I liked Bobby Knight. The hires since have been bad with Sampson corrupt, Creen inneffective, and miller a jerk. Woodson doesn't have it either, but as a BIG fan, I've always thought it's good for the league.
Agreed on your axis of evil, except I would add Iowa and Minnesota to it!
When Boeheim was at Syracuse, they were in the mix.
Not a big fan of the Arkansas coach, or the Oregon coach that beat us. Both seem like asshats.
@approxinfinity Any coach that beats us is an asshat!
Jordan Bells postgame interview after the Oregon defeat lacked any semblance of grace. And i dont think the apple fell very far from Dana Altmanās tree.
Would have to be pretty frustrating if you were shooting 67 % from the field and almost 81 % from the three and only be up by three over Baylor in the 1st half, for Texas.-- Texas has hit like 9-11 threes in the first have but Baylor I think is 8-10 lol
Watching a bit of St. Johnās vs Marquette this morning. Zuby has looked pretty good thus far, didnāt start but had some good plays on both ends.
Exciting finish in TX. But, I sure wish TX had lost.
I give you a lot of credit for watching any post game footage after that one. Easily in the top 5 of most disappointing season finishes. Thought we had the team and stars align with it being in KC.
@stoptheflop said in Other bball games:
Exciting finish in TX. But, I sure wish TX had lost.
Better for us that Texas beat Baylor , gives them two losses, Baylor bigger threat to challenge for title
The guys better be READY, crazy things going on in Conference today. Texas beats Baylor on last second shot, gives Baylor two losses.
Iowa State just putting a thumpin on TCU at TCU , up 18 points at the half . - TCU with 18 turnovers in the 1st half.
KU better have their A game, this league is a blood bath day in , and day out
Go cowboys!
OSU gives away the game after BYU does the same, not a great day for us
Down goes dook lmao
@FarmerJayhawk at least we had that go right today
We've seen some close calls over the years with court stormings, part of the cost of being top dog for so long. Well today, Iowa's Caitlin Clark got blindsided by an Ohio State fan. It knocked her to the floor, got the wind knocked out of her, fortunately nothing else happened.
It's one practice I wouldn't mind seeing go by the wayside. A Tulane fan shoved a Memphis player after upsetting them recently. Trying to remember what happened to us at Silo tech. I wish for once in a day of instant news and instant outrage that the NCAA would be proactive and figure out a way to prevent it from happening instead of knee jerk reacting after someone does get seriously hurt. Caitlin Clark nearly getting hurt should be that impetus.
@wissox said in Other bball games:
Trying to remember what happened to us at Silo tech.
Didn't one of their fans shove Traylor or something?
I dont see where Josh Eilert has the beat KU, bonus, cancer research donation thing.
Down goes kensucky At the hands South Carolina
@kjayhawks Lamont Paris learned from one of the best in Bo Ryan.
KSU ISU hurts my eyes
@FarmerJayhawk some ugly colors
@Crimsonorblue22 ugly colors, ugly basketball, constant interruptions, sheesh
Lots off offensive fouls, bad shooting
Those fall down foulsš¤¬
lol the Tang T. Not Jesus approved
Weāre at 60 total FTs. Yuck
What was Tang yaking at coach O about? Looked PO'd.
@Crimsonorblue22 no idea! Looked like lots of jawing in the second half
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Throwing things at ksu bench
Watch the foul disparity on Saturday, it will be hilariously frustrating to watch.
The press called the game contentious, chippy etc.
Fred, The Mayor, Hoiberg, Marcus Fizer, George Niang, Monte Morris, Jeff Hornacek, Jeff Grayer, and Curtis Stinson have all pissed me off.
K state fans on twitter are acting like itās the first time theyāve played at ISU. Of course the foul calls were bad. Of course the fans boo calls that are very regular and fine. Of course the fans are classless. Like where has kstate been all these years?
It's even funnier because they are the same fans themselves.
@BeddieKU23 said in Other bball games:
It's even funnier because they are the same fans themselves.
Literally identical fan bases.
Reminds me of EJ dropping 39 points in a victory including a dunk at the end of the game that sent the place into a frenzy. It was later released that ISU had not only thrown stuff at the KU bench repeatedly but a fan had spit in EJs face.
@BeddieKU23 said in Other bball games:
Watch the foul disparity on Saturday, it will be hilariously frustrating to watch.
Exactly was I was going to bring up - - Watch out Saturday , I guess there CAN BE controversy on officiating other then at the Phog. I will say this ONE thing however , one of the questionable calls made BOTH ways just wrong. - -The on where they called the K/State player for a foul when the Iowa State player tripped over his own feet , there was no or if any , very little contact on that play late in the game -I thought WO even though I was wanting K/ State to lose.- - Tang on you tube postgame said he was not going to talk about what him and ISU Coach said in shake line after words was said. Tang was not happy - - -something with the fans.
I'm just glad it was somewhere else then the Phog on referring for a change - -just a bad look. !^ fouls in the last 11 minutes of the game on K/State, Fitz was saying one call every 47 seconds of the game- - -62 free throws shot. How do teams get any kind of a flow when there is that many interruptions?
As a former ref myself I've heard and seen both sides. - They say you know when a game has been officiated well you won't even know there were refs there , Then I also know if a official wanted to be a big enough ass he could call some kind of a foul every single time down the floor. Last Night was just horrible
Not sure how we are going to stand up going 5-8 Saturday -Mercy what a circus last night
@Zabudda I've always been an admirer of ISU. Back to the Jeff Grayer days with crusty old Johnny Orr coaching to the Hoiberg years, for some reason that's the one school that really for 40 years of my KU fandom has been just about the toughest out for us, whether in Ames or in Lawrence. All time we have a decided advantage, winning 189-67. In Ames we're 71-47. They've only won 16 times in Lawrence.
Don't they have security at games? I don't know if it's true if they were throwing things, but if they were they can give T's after a warning and escort the perps out. Home coach should be speaking out, I'd like to think our AD and or coach would control that.
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
Reminds me of EJ dropping 39 points in a victory including a dunk at the end of the game that sent the place into a frenzy. It was later released that ISU had not only thrown stuff at the KU bench repeatedly but a fan had spit in EJs face.
And a slurry of racial names. It was this game where I lost all respect for ISU. Still hasn't come back to me.
I totally take Tang's side on this one.
ISU fans are the worst in our conference. Ask other Jayhawk fans about ISU fan behavior in the Power and Light District during the B12 Tourney.
@drgnslayr said in Other bball games:
I totally take Tang's side on this one.
ISU fans are the worst in our conference. Ask other Jayhawk fans about ISU fan behavior in the Power and Light District during the B12 Tourney.
They are REALLY BAD. Did you see this game ? - -one time KSU player got a bloody mouth from an elbow - -ref looked the other way - another when they called a foul on KSU- -the dam guy tripped ove his own feet, didn't touh fan. - -Watch out Saturday. - their guards are really dirty
I believe it was the ref, pollard(sp?) turned his head away from the isu player tripping on his own feet and turned back as he was falling and called the foul on ksu. It was clear as a bell too! Tang got a T from basically shaking his hands at the ref, weak call and changed the game. I'm not a big as tang fan as I started out to be.
Now they(ksu) are saying he was talking to coach O about isu people, managers etc, were taking pics while they were in the huddle and texting that to coaches. Hmmm
@drgnslayr they had to be escorted to bus if I remember right.
If a male coach acted as badly as Kim Mulkey at LSU does he'd be banned from the game. Didn't see the game last night, but she certainly has a style that wouldn't be tolerated. She makes some of our crazier male coaches like Fran up in Iowa look like choir boys.
I remember attending a KU vs ISU game in the old Big 8 preseason Holiday Tournament. The I State coach managed to get 3 technicals arguing 1 call, and because he wouldn't leave after being ejected. 10 point play in all (2 shot foul, 2 x 3 for techs, we got possession afterwards and scored). Fun times!
I just hope both teams have fun.
@Crimsonorblue22 I think the text and pictures of the huddle thing is laughable. The TV crew several times have coaches micād and show inside the huddle. What good would it do even if true? So a guy behind KSU bench takes pictures and text what is being said. Then he sends it to another ISU staffer on their side and relays it to TJ. Lol
@kjayhawks he sure likes getting attention. So weird to me!
Small sample size and all that but wow š¦ View Tweet?s=46&t=c0LiaNrxev6XfT7LIH8dAQ
Here is a news flash - - - - -don't expect anyfavors in Hilton tomorrow, could get ugly. Expect Kevin & KJ both in foul trouble early
@FarmerJayhawk The parity in basketball is at a different level. Watched a coach K interview a few weeks back and he was talking about much better mid majors are than they were in the 80s, 90s and early 00s
In Madison for a good one against Lizzo and the Spartans
really surprised KSU/Houston not on some TV - -shows it was suppose to be on ESPN but no
Houston was taking it to K/State early. not quite sa bad now, I seriously think K/State won't scratch 60
Dam K/State getting that ass curb stomped by Houston 29-12 with like 6:20 in 1st half
If Houston could make a free throw itād be a 30 point game. 41-21 Houston at the half, Houston has great ball movement
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
If Houston could make a free throw itād be a 30 point game. 41-21 Houston at the half, Houston has great ball movement
Houston pretty dam good
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
@FarmerJayhawk The parity in basketball is at a different level. Watched a coach K interview a few weeks back and he was talking about much better mid majors are than they were in the 80s, 90s and early 00s
This is why I believe the teams at the top of a conference with the most balance will have unique advantage late in the season. Particularly, it will help them survive the first few rounds of the tournament where the the un-ranked will flex this year.
So, as of right now, I like the B12 teams and I like Mountain West and even Pac12 to have a decent show in the tourney. We'll see.
ACC appears to be very top heavy.
When you have put up 23 points in over 24 minutes of play - - -that's bad , but I seen this coming
BYU student section wore shirts spelling out horns down and were forced to turn them inside out smh. What a joke, Iād let it go
Auburn going down at Cowbell U. Another rough day for top 10 teams on the road
@kjayhawks who made them?
@Crimsonorblue22 the students was spelled out, one guy wearing one letter
I mean, who made them change them to inside out
@Crimsonorblue22 the athletic director or officials would be my guess
Been watching a lot of ball today. Man, everyone is just varying degrees of mediocre.
Dook in trouble at home to Clempsen
Wow. Absolute bailout.
Kentucky REALLY struggling at the Muss Bus
Wow TCU wins in triple OT. This league is a bloodbath
That was an exciting game. David Padgett is announcing the following game. Blast from the past.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Other bball games:
Wow TCU wins in triple OT. This league is a bloodbath
That it is think the winner of the league loses 5 maybe 6.- -You saw the double flop from Baylor at the end - -awful funny both Baylor players feel at the same time. Farmer said they teach that too, this league is just Brutal. - -Man if w could just have any kind of a Bench - -- how is it possible to get in that bad of position?
This conference is just crazy competitive this year, several games decided by only a possession or two, we just need a few of the right teams to win.
Duke bailed out big time today.
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
This conference is just crazy competitive this year, several games decided by only a possession or two, we just need a few of the right teams to win.
Long ways to go , we just got to do our part, take care of OUR business and the rest will play it'self out. It doesn't help when both your main players go in a shooting slump at the same time
@jayballer67 Hunter and Kev canāt buy a bucket
This Houston Texas game has been a war.
Air ball, ball hog
He could've drove the ball
Fran, good coaching
Fran in Lawrence sat.š¤¢š¤®
vomit
Not gonna lie , pretty worried about Saturday. -- Houston ,s good - - physical , and just looks like they don't get rattles. -- -Shaad is very legit , I dunno gonna take a hell of of alot better ball handling an decisiion making then we have been getting recently.
Not sure who will guard Shaad , I guess Harris although Shaad a lot bigger frame bully Juan. , Hunter on Roberts - -KJ on Francis. Who knows not gonna be easy
TCU / Tex Tech pretty good. - -Tech was up 27-16- -then TCU hits them with a 24-9 run up - -- 40-36 at the half
Hey here is some eye popping stats for ya. - -K/State / Okla - -K/State made their first field goal with 10:30 to go in the first half. - - -1-12 - -from the three & - Now 5-23 over all and with like 2 minutes to go losing to Oklahoma 27-14
TCU leads by 6 with 2:23 left
The more I watch the more I think everyone just kinda sucks
Northwestern gets called for 31 fouls to 15 for Purdue, resulting in 46 FT attempts to 8 for NU. Ridiculous disparity and NU was still able to take them to OT. I didn't watch but it may have partially been a hack a zach strategy as he shot almost 17 and missed 9. I guess Chris Collins lost it at the end of OT and get two techs.
Kentucky just loses at home to unranked Florida.
@kjayhawks Me too. I can think of some other wildcats I like to lose as well!
@Crimsonorblue22 I see what you were questioning now. I changed it to Purdue. Now it's correct....I think!
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@jayballer67 said in Other bball games:
Not gonna lie , pretty worried about Saturday. -- Houston ,s good - - physical , and just looks like they don't get rattles. -- -Shaad is very legit , I dunno gonna take a hell of of alot better ball handling an decisiion making then we have been getting recently.
Not sure who will guard Shaad , I guess Harris although Shaad a lot bigger frame bully Juan. , Hunter on Roberts - -KJ on Francis. Who knows not gonna be easy
What is noticeable about the Cougars is their strong effort on every play. The game can be tied up and they will harass your ass on defense and force you into a bad shot or turnover and attack your weakness on offense and bingo you are down by six and you look like you're just hanging on. They speed you up I think and then you are not finishing at the rim and missing threes and you better get offensive rebounds and on their end you can play good D but but they crash the boards on you.
ā¦Thats how cougars affect me!
I just realized now that theyāre in our conference theres a whole world of Cougar jokes i havent explored, sorry!
Hopefully they're calling fouls at home, on them!
Texas with a huge road win for their NCAA hopes and KSU with a nasty loss to a Bryce Thompson less Okie state
UCF is turning into a tough place to play as they knock off Oklahoma.
Interesting hypothetical...Do we get furphy if we take Harrison Ingram in the portal?
@rcjhdraft said in Other bball games:
Interesting hypothetical...Do we get furphy if we take Harrison Ingram in the portal?
If we get Ingram we probably donāt have KJ, so probably?
Cincinnati beats Tech at Tech
Filipowski a biatch
@FarmerJayhawk said in Other bball games:
Filipowski a biatch
You can tell because he's wearing a jersey that says Duke. That's always a dead giveaway.
Curious how much longer before the fans turn on scheyer.
Eat a Richard dook
Kentucky probably gonna lose. We're two games behind them on the all time wins list.
Baylor beats iowa state in a wild one and just like that KU is tied for first in conference with Houston.
Rock chalk!
Wild ending wow
@wissox said in Other bball games:
Kentucky probably gonna lose. We're two games behind them on the all time wins list.
Deja Vu
Got to finish now! For some reason, no team looks very impressive to me.
Love seeing the Kentucky crowd filing out of KU's own Adolph Rupp arena, crying, chagrined, carrying their bottles of moonshine, firing up their 72 Ford pickups with a couch in the back for all 12 of the extra family members, tobacco juice staining their kentucky shirts, a real pathetic sight to see.
@Crimsonorblue22 Assuming they lose it'll be two different.
not a lot of defense. Nearly 200 points scored.
Kensucky, Dook, KSUCK and Fizzou all lose. Meanwhile we are back to being tied at the top of conference. All in a Saturdays work
Scott Drew ejected for crossing the line of the coaches box? Have they seen Kim Mulkey coaching from the center circle or Shaka Smart playing lock down defense on guys he's coaching against?
Missouri has lost 9 straight games.
Truly hate to see itšššš
@BeddieKU23 said in Other bball games:
Missouri has lost 9 straight games.
Truly hate to see itšššš
8-23 :soon_arrow:
:folded_hands: on the downfall.
Tang and Gates both having major regression seasons this year feels great.
Anybody watch that dang ISU /Baylor--mercy the effing of that game was just bizarre, never seen such a thing before
@jayballer67 - refās got it right too!
Funny stat from X today, with yesterdayās loss Fizzou drops to 0-9 in sec play meanwhile we have a 3-0 record vs SEC teams. With 7 games left does Kansas win more SEC games than Fizzou?
@kjayhawks There's a real chance they go 0-18 at this point. Yesterday was by far their most winnable game against Vanderbilt. Their other two remaining winnable games against Arkansas and LSU are both road games so I wouldn't be surprised if they run the table at this point.
There are things that are a shame, and other things that are a damned shame. Then there are things that make you just feel like Providence rewards the best and punishes the worst. Any guesses where U-Muzuh falls?
UNC with a letdown loss against Clemson
@rcjhdraft yep thatās exactly why I said KU still had a one seed shot with a win last night. Clemson prob isnāt a tournament team and UNC lost to them at home.
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
@rcjhdraft yep thatās exactly why I said KU still had a one seed shot with a win last night. Clemson prob isnāt a tournament team and UNC lost to them at home.
Yeah makes me more pissed about this loss. Every time this team has had a 1 seed or the #1 ranking in front of them they blow it against garbage opposition
@rcjhdraft I get mad everytime I think about. Iām starting to question our strength and conditioning if we are so tired all the time when other teams donāt seem to be. Bring Hudy back this soft
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
@rcjhdraft I get mad everytime I think about. Iām starting to question our strength and conditioning if we are so tired all the time when other teams donāt seem to be. Bring Hudy back this soft
It's inexplicable given the experience on this team to be this soft on the road
I get mad every time I think about it too. The dude threw the ball by himself out of bounds. Zebras somehow didn't see it. The dude stepped in the lane before Kevin missed his FT. He at least had a chance to make good.
WVU. Refs call a clean steal a foul. Would've loved to have seen how that game turns out. No guarantee we win that one, but bad call almost assuredly takes away what would have been a tie.
ISU. Refs miss a travel and ISU makes a "dagger 3" as ESPN shouts. Well there's maybe no dagger three, instead there's KU with the ball and a chance to tie or even win at the buzzer.
3 losses in a row where strange bad calls all worked against us. Does that mean we're still only smarting over a loss somehow to Central Florida? Probably not. Other things would have needed to happen for us to win all three of those but we'll never know because the refs didn't give us that chance in those situations.
Now both of my teams suck.
So Auburn vs Alabama last night the teams combined to shoot 85, yes 85 free throws.
@kjayhawks f that game. Refs just need to swallow the whistle so we can bitch about missed calls, but at least the play on the court decided the game.
Counterpoint. They should call that many fouls every game until teams stop hacking on every trip down the floor.
With UKs home loss today, that is 3 in a row in Rupp.
@kjayhawks Wow, basically since everyone fawned that they finally were getting Ivisic eligible as a 7'2" guy with guard like abilities and they're going to be unstoppable now. We'd be in full meltdown here if we lost 3 home games in a row. Can't remember ever losing 3 in a row in AFH. In 1988 we lost 3 of 6 there, and then avenged all three in the last 3 games of the Big Dance!
I guess I don't know why I just can't acknowledge that I guess Iowa State is just dam good. - - I kept saying they are not that good, all they do is go out and win.- -They don't seem to have a lot of trouble on the road.- - Up 10 on Cincinnati tonight, ranked 10th in the Nation. pass the ball really well - -this sucks. - but got to give some credit where credit is do-- they are just good - -force turnovers - -shoot 39 % from the 3- -what can you say
Part of what Self is alluding about in his post game presser is the physicality in the league being over the top this year and a big part of that is Iowa St and what the league has allowed them to get away with. I don't blame Bill one bit for finally calling out the league on it
@BeddieKU23 It's not just Iowa St. Most Big 12 games are starting to resemble the old Big East from 20 years ago with the physicality league wide.
I think specifically Iowa St is driving a lot of it this year but yes, in general the officiating has done nothing to stop it. They are consistently getting away with a level of physical play that I don't think gets rewarded in the tournament.
The officiating sucks this year. It's way too selective. And the officials are inserting themselves on the game in weird ways -- like instead of managing the physicality of the game, they are quick to give technicals for ticky tack stuff like coach disagreeing and throwing coaches out for stepping out of the box (Drew and Self). But again, it's selective (focusing the two coaches that have won an NC?) because you can see some coaches all over the place.
Apparently this is what happens when Higgins is bumped up to the office. Boo.
Wow. Holtmann out at OSU. You donāt see midseason firings very often. Will be a highly sought after gig
@FarmerJayhawk said in Other bball games:
Wow. Holtmann out at OSU. You donāt see midseason firings very often. Will be a highly sought after gig
OSU is atrocious this year. Never thought we'd see a season where them and Michigan are the bottom feeders of the Big 10, even in basketball. OSU is very similar to Texas in how they view basketball and while it's definitely a good job, I don't know I'd call it an elite job.
I'm also thinking Michigan will probably be open this year as well with how far they've sunk the past couple of seasons.
Iowa State just kicking the crap out of Tech - -up 21 - - Their Physical -Their dirty - - -but their good/legit
I donāt understand how Houston is kicking tail every game. Is Sampson a great recruiter, finding those gems Self and teams miss? Is he a great motivator, every game? Does he have a better all around staff for recruiting and teaching?
-Their defense is physical and fouls arenāt called. They generally hit shots when it counts, either through talent or coaching.
- I was certain they would be an average team in the Big 12, but it turns out KU is the average team. š«
KU must win today to keep pace with bunch of other teams - -we win we be 1/2 game ahead of Tech , TCU ,if BYU wins they be there too.
@jayballer67 KU lost their chance to win this conference blowing leads at UCF and KSU. I think we can get back on track today but we aināt winning this conference. Need way too much help.
TCU hits a late 3 to down KSUCK in Methattan, probably making the B12 tournament a must win for an NCAA tournament birth.
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 KU lost their chance to win this conference blowing leads at UCF and KSU. I think we can get back on track today but we aināt winning this conference. Need way too much help.
Nah , I wasn't even talking about that - -winning the Conference - -I'm talking about keeping pace with Tech , TCU , Baylor, and possibly BYU
2-9 OSt beating BYU. Tough conference.
@stoptheflop for everyone but Houston
@Gorilla72 said in Other bball games:
I donāt understand how Houston is kicking tail every game. Is Sampson a great recruiter, finding those gems Self and teams miss? Is he a great motivator, every game? Does he have a better all around staff for recruiting and teaching?
-Their defense is physical and fouls arenāt called. They generally hit shots when it counts, either through talent or coaching.
- I was certain they would be an average team in the Big 12, but it turns out KU is the average team. š«
Kelvin Sampson is a very good basketball coach amd has been for 40+ years, that's why. This is not his first go around in the Big 12. He did coach OU for 12 years and made 11 NCAA Tournaments and only finished outside the top 3 in the Big 8/12 twice, and never had a losing conference record. He also won a Big 12 regular season title, 3 tournament titles, and made a Final Four in 2002. The man has a career .684 winning percentage and is generally considered a top 5 active coach.
Connecticut is ripping Marquette.
Oklahoma has cooled down on there 3"s -wonder if we could hit one sometime
What the hell Kevin
Juan Finally
Kevin FINALLY
UK spanking Auburn
Wow Virginia beats WF in 1980s big East style of game while shooting 9% from the FT line š³
WOW , Ohio St taking it to Purdue right now. -- Now it's early right about 12 minutes to go in the 2nd half but Ohio St up 12- - -got this Dude name Battle just killin it from the three. -- Ohio St defenders just like a bunch of pesky knats everttime they try to get Edey the ball
DOWN GOES PURDUE. -- Interim Coach's first win against the # 2 team in the Nation
Good for him!
Scott Drew gets T-d up for stepping across the coaching box line, but watch this and no technical was called on Willard. Watch where his foot is when the ball comes up to him.
The Purdue loss was super enjoyable for me.
@wissox Oops, no link. Here it is. š¦ View Tweet?s=20
@BeddieKU23 said in Other bball games:
Refs tried really hard to give Purdue a shot with the ft fest late
Edey gets insanely favorable treatment. Wish Hunter got it too LOL.
Wanna make sure I watch that Iowa State -Houston game tonight at 8:00 - -could be a dog fight. - -I've got Houston winning mainly cause they are at Houston. Iowa St got them at Ames - -just don't think it's happening in Houston
He gets fouled a ton but he's getting a lot of benefits as well. It was pretty clear the ref's wanted that game tight late which they got but Ohio State made their FT's late to seal it
I don't know why refs hate us this year as a whole but they do. Hunter/Kev/KJ don't get nearly the favorable whistle others do
I'd really like to see AI applied to officiating.. Not to remove the officials from the game, but to help drive consistency across the board. It wouldn't be hard to build a model of plays (both with fouls and no-calls) and then have it show the likelihood that a play would be result in foul and on which player.
Imagine seeing contact on a play and the model references thousands of similar plays with similar contact and it shows on the screen that this was called a foul 87% of the time.
That would be instructional for the officials when they see which of their fouls are called the way they called it less than 25% of the time (that is, 75% of the time it is no call or called opposite). And it would hopefully eliminate some plays that are called differently 95% of the time... Like in this case, where a coach is off the bench, on the court during the game and grabs the ball in play... And then contrast that with a coach with one foot out of the box on the sideline getting a T or the shadow of a player's heel over the line and the player is called out of bounds.. Ridiculously inconsistent management of the game.
The goal would to be drive officiating toward norms.
@Crimsonorblue22 Maryland ball. No penalty for Willard believe it or not.
ISU on a pace for 20 pts for the game against Houston...6 pts after 12 minutes...
I swear Houston hacks and gets away with it.
We should've never lost to k-state
@Gorilla72 said in Other bball games:
I swear Houston hacks and gets away with it.
2 of the best hackers in the league
@rcjhdraft said in Other bball games:
We should've never lost to k-state
We have a few of those unfortunately
@BeddieKU23 said in Other bball games:
He gets fouled a ton but he's getting a lot of benefits as well. It was pretty clear the ref's wanted that game tight late which they got but Ohio State made their FT's late to seal it
I don't know why refs hate us this year as a whole but they do. Hunter/Kev/KJ don't get nearly the favorable whistle others do
My physical therapist (small shoulder injury) is an OU fan, she claims KU gets all the calls at home. I said thatās the home whistle that any team gets with a good crowd. - that was Friday. She cancelled our Wednesday appointment, Iām curious why. lol
@dylans I feel like the B12 refs got together and said we aināt getting accused of being KU homers anymore. I feel like we donāt get crap for calls home or road at this point. I donāt have the metic or know where to get it but it seems like we shoot about 8 FTs less per game than opponents. Yet Hunter and Kevin get fouled often with no whistle
@dylans said in Other bball games:
@BeddieKU23 said in Other bball games:
He gets fouled a ton but he's getting a lot of benefits as well. It was pretty clear the ref's wanted that game tight late which they got but Ohio State made their FT's late to seal it
I don't know why refs hate us this year as a whole but they do. Hunter/Kev/KJ don't get nearly the favorable whistle others do
My physical therapist (small shoulder injury) is an OU fan, she claims KU gets all the calls at home. I said thatās the home whistle that any team gets with a good crowd. - that was Friday. She cancelled our Wednesday appointment, Iām curious why. lol
The funny thing is Hunter is getting fouled less (officially) and going to the line far less at Kansas than he was at Michigan. And BIG fans complain all the time about how the refs let too much go in that league which hurts them in the tournament where refs then start calling more fouls.
Wow, UConn hasnāt beaten a ranked team on the road in 10 years. Makes you even more thankful for Billy Eugene
Marquette gets the revenge home game soon too.
Baylor loses to BYU. Tech wins by 1 against TCU.
LSU just upset Kentucky on an insane final sequence.
Link if anyone wants to watch š¦ View Tweet?s=46&t=c0LiaNrxev6XfT7LIH8dAQ
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Other bball games:
LSU just upset Kentucky on an insane final sequence.
And Rupp Rafters goes nuts calling for Calipari's head.
@stoptheflop said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Other bball games:
LSU just upset Kentucky on an insane final sequence.
And Rupp Rafters goes nuts calling for Calipari's head.
They call for Cal's head every time they lose. Crazy , Crazy game last night.
Since the start of 2020 season we have 103 wins and Kentucky has 75.
@wissox said in Other bball games:
Since the start of 2020 season we have 103 wins and Kentucky has 75.
I like this stat a lot. :D
I looked up the big 12 tourney bracket, as of yesterday, we have the 5th seed. Baylor and tt are tied w/us but have 3 and 4. Is that right? We would play at 11:30 wed. Of course, that could change and will. But if we stayed tied how does Baylor have the seed over us? Guessing they beat tech. Top 4 have byes.
So does a Houston loss or Baylor loss benefit KU the most? Or, does it even matter since there's no difference between second and last in the league.
goes to show what kind of year it has been this year in College Basketball, -- -Ranked teams have gotten beaten by un ranked teams 145 times this year
@stoptheflop said in Other bball games:
So does a Houston loss or Baylor loss benefit KU the most? Or, does it even matter since there's no difference between second and last in the league.
Baylor. KU is 2 games back of Houston amd tied with Baylor. I'm also very skeptical that KU can win a share because I don't think they can win out with road games at Baylor and Houston left and KU is already a game back of ISU and I don't see ISU losing again as BYU is their only tough game left and that's at Hilton.
Let me just say this - - - --- Houston is GOOD -- - - - -DAM GOOD period, end of story. - -leading Baylor 25-10 at Baylor making them look stupid
Holy Crap perfect example of what BeddieKU23 has been talking about. The Physicality in the Big 12, Baylor player drives the lane and just gets mugged by Houston player and NOTHING called geez
Pretty simple to me if Houston can beat Baylor which it looks like they will with ease, they likely win the conference. 2 games up with 4 to go, would take a catastrophic end to the season for them not to win.
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
Pretty simple to me if Houston can beat Baylor which it looks like they will with ease, they likely win the conference. 2 games up with 4 to go, would take a catastrophic end to the season for them not to win.
ya you watching the Conference Champions, and the way they have played- -- who is better ?
Drew needs to throw that trash 1-3-1 zone away. - -It's Garbage, Houston destroying it, getting anything they want out of it. Ku did the same thing to them when that ran it against us.--Use to love watching Baylor try and run that zone against KU-- just killed them, and yet here is Drew still running that trash - -never learn
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
Pretty simple to me if Houston can beat Baylor which it looks like they will with ease, they likely win the conference. 2 games up with 4 to go, would take a catastrophic end to the season for them not to win.
UH is two up on Kansas, not two up on 2nd place. ISU is only one back of UH and have a pretty soft schedule left with only OU amd BYU as tournament teams left and both of those games are in Ames.
Baylor only down 3 with 3:34 left.
Missi missed his And One FT for the lead, Shead makes his shot, but it was after the buzzer for Baylor and UH are going to OT.
Baylor guard just killin them turning the ball over
WOW close - - -BUT not today Houston
WOW close BUT - - not today Houston
Just turned it on and it looks like Houston. Were they losing bad in this one?
WTF??? CBS cut away to the start of the Arizona / Washington game!
Maybe they wouldn't if they were ranked ... oh wait, they are.
Maybe if it was a Duke game?
@Texas-Hawk-10 thatās true but Houston has it now IMO would be shocked if they didnāt win this conference at this point. Slight chance ISU shares but very slight.
@bskeet said in Other bball games:
WTF??? CBS cut away to the start of the Arizona / Washington game!
Maybe they wouldn't if they were ranked ... oh wait, they are.
Maybe if it was a Duke game?
Didn't cut away for me. Probably depends on where you live though.
CBS is a cluster... They tell you to go to the CBS Sports App to watch the end of the UH/BU game.. I did that and clicked on the game and it was showing the Arizona game. There was no way to watch the OT of that game.
Unbelievable.
They need to learn how to run a broadcast network in the age of streaming.
Watching the game, I have to say Iām shocked we were able to beat both of these teams at home because we aināt winning against them on the road.
I read somewhere that Uconn hasn't beaten a top 10 team on the road in a decade. But they have 2 NC's in that time.
@wissox said in Other bball games:
I read somewhere that Uconn hasn't beaten a ~~top 10~~ ranked team on the road in a decade. But they have 2 NC's in that time.
Fixed the statement for you.
Duke and Wake Forest are playing a great game in Winston Salem right now with about 5 minutes left. Wake is currently up 1 amd this name has never been more than a two possession game either way.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Other bball games:
Duke and Wake Forest are playing a great game in Winston Salem right now with about 5 minutes left. Wake is currently up 1 amd this name has never been more than a two possession game either way.
Great game until really dumb decision by Wake to throw the lob. Up 5 and should have been going to the FT line the double bonus, but now a 2 pt game...
@Texas-Hawk-10 Is that what I read? That's pretty shocking. So do we trade our resume for theirs? 2 championships in that time, but with some down years or our year after year mainly in the top ten receiving top seeds the majority of the time? I know we've discussed this before. Of course they could win again and I wouldn't be surprised. 6 championships in 2 1/2 decades is pretty amazing stuff.
Filipowski got run into by fan and is limping assisted down the tunnel. Of course it will take a Duke guy getting hurt to get them to do something about it.
This is going be a very ugly situation for Wake now. Looks like Filipowski got hurt by Wake fans during the court storming. As much as we all hate Duke here, that's not something that should happen.
@wissox said in Other bball games:
Filipowski got run into by fan and is limping assisted down the tunnel. Of course it will take a Duke guy getting hurt to get them to do something about it.
It won't change anything. If Caitlin Clark almost getting KO'd earlier this year didn't force changes, Filipowski won't either.
"The Day Kyle Almost Got Killed". 5 Part Series on PBS Frontline coming soon. Oh and by the way you can get a box set of the series on DVD for only 300 dollars if you donate to your local PBS station.
@Texas-Hawk-10 I havenāt seen it yet but Clarkās was a total flop by her but if this truly happened and hurt him, that will spell trouble. Never know, Traylor got bumper for us at KSUCK and an ISU broke a leg one year to no changes.
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I havenāt seen it yet but Clarkās was a total flop by her but if this truly happened and hurt him, that will spell trouble. Never know, Traylor got bumper for us at KSUCK and an ISU broke a leg one year to no changes.
So Clark knocked the wind out of herself? I'm sorry, but GTFO with that take. You don't knock the wind out of yourself flopping.
At this point, the only way to way to stop court/field stormings is for the home team to forfeit the game and give the win to the other team. That will stop court/field stormings almost immediately.
OU beats OSU with a buzzer beating 3. Wow.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Iāve seen people get shot have less of a reaction than Clark. I agree that there zero reason to touch the players, I just think she sold it all hard but who knows.
I thought she flopped too.
@Crimsonorblue22 so did 99% of social media
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
@Crimsonorblue22 so did 99% of social media
99% of social media shits on women's sports too. Clark was looking in another direction when she was ran into and knocked off balance along with the wind knocked out of her.
@kjayhawks Bull crap. Clark got ran into and we're all fortunate she didn't get hurt.
Same morons are saying Filipowski was tripping kids, shoving kids, etc. I just can't believe the irrational people who can't see what is so plain to see.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Other bball games:
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I havenāt seen it yet but Clarkās was a total flop by her but if this truly happened and hurt him, that will spell trouble. Never know, Traylor got bumper for us at KSUCK and an ISU broke a leg one year to no changes.
So Clark knocked the wind out of herself? I'm sorry, but GTFO with that take. You don't knock the wind out of yourself flopping.
Not saying Clark flopped, but Bryce Thompson tore his labrum flopping. You can absolutely hurt yourself flopping.
@wissox said in Other bball games:
Same morons are saying Filipowski was tripping kids, shoving kids, etc. I just can't believe the irrational people who can't see what is so plain to see.
he for sure was not tripping kids, he was trying to get off the court- -it was insane - -court storming has got to be stopped. Gotten totally out of hand-- now he is hurt- not good.
Alot of these fricken tweets of twitter and such are the perfect chance for people who do not like Filpowski . - --People who don't like him have found their opportunity to take pot shots at him or about him with the court storming , hell I don't like him either really, but not because of him personally, don't know the kid, but just because it's Duke.
Having said that I'm sure the hell not going to run to twitter and blame him saying it was his fault and other things , the guy was trying to get off the court .I could see where he actually looked scared for his safety, just trying to get off. On the other hand you have these idiots storming the court mass chaos just so they can group up with a bunch of other idiots so they could hop up and done act like fools.
Hell half of them probably didn't even know why they themselves why they were storming the court- - -only that a bunch of other kids were doing it so it must be fun, to hell if someone got hurt. - -Got to be stopped
@dylans said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Other bball games:
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 I havenāt seen it yet but Clarkās was a total flop by her but if this truly happened and hurt him, that will spell trouble. Never know, Traylor got bumper for us at KSUCK and an ISU broke a leg one year to no changes.
So Clark knocked the wind out of herself? I'm sorry, but GTFO with that take. You don't knock the wind out of yourself flopping.
Not saying Clark flopped, but Bryce Thompson tore his labrum flopping. You can absolutely hurt yourself flopping.
And at what point did Clark go to the ground after she got hit? It wasn't immediately or even after the spin. That means she got hit hard enough on the contact with that fan that it knocked the wind out of her at that point. If Clark had been hit in a different spot that hard, rib injuries then become a possibility as well.
Filipowski was oblivious and clotheslined a kid who then hit his knee. Have some awareness. I dont think we need our athletes retracted further into their bubble of exceptionalism, Duke being the poster boys for exceptionalism, and I dont have a problem with court stormings.
Why don't they just make it mandatory for the players to leave the court first- opponent then let fans and home team enjoy. There is no need for players to get hurt that's for sure over this, even if it is Duke
@BeddieKU23 I honestly donāt think he made an effort to get off the court but he shouldnāt have too at the same time.
If this were Spain, we would call him an idiot.
https://www.sbnation.com/2012/7/7/3143532/running-of-the-bulls-2012-spain-video ā
Sore point in these parts I'm sure, but anyone remember this 'court storming'. My how times have changed!
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
@BeddieKU23 I honestly donāt think he made an effort to get off the court but he shouldnāt have too at the same time.
When did Filipowski even have a chance to leave the court? Those Wake fans were on the court as soon as that clock hit zero and there was no security to protect anyone or even hold fans back for a bit.
@Texas-Hawk-10 they were on the court w/time still on the clock.
What a seemingly unlikeable weenus
https://youtube.com/shorts/DUtbBC2jGmU?si=7HfjO_W1wVNfSSic ā
Suck it up dude! Jesus.
Wheres the injury report? Out for the season? Get a grip.
This is a situation where you say āits unfortunate that players can get injured by passionate fans ā not āthose fans tried to hurt me, poor meā, but this is what you get when your coach is also a pampered child.
Would we feel the same way if it was Hunter straining his ankle from something that can be avoided?
It's Duke so I don't have sympathy but do feel these court stormings are not that safe in situations
@BeddieKU23 life is 10% what happens and 90% what you make of it. Kyle came to the absolute wrong conclusion that the world is out to get him. If Hunter aimlessly wandered in front of a court storming and then said the fan that he forearm blasted who was running past him was trying to hurt his ankle, I would scoff at that too.
your idea about getting players off and then letting them rush the court wont happen because universities dont want to condone the behavior at all, even though its organic and healthy imo.
@approxinfinity said in Other bball games:
What a seemingly unlikeable weenus
https://youtube.com/shorts/DUtbBC2jGmU?si=7HfjO_W1wVNfSSic ā
Suck it up dude! Jesus.
Wheres the injury report? Out for the season? Get a grip.
Why does it matter the severity of the injury and why does it matter if it's a Duke player or not?
This is why court/field storming is absolutely unnecessary. He's a 20 year old kid whose team just lost an emotionally charged game that was never more than a 2 possession game. Emotionally charged 20 year olds don't make the smartest decisions so why was he forced to be in that position in the first place surrounded by opposing fans the same general age that also don't make the smartest decisions in emotionally charged situations like court/field stormings?
Ban the practice, and tell schools/fans they will forfeit the game and the other team will declared the winner if any fan enters the field/court of play. Anyone that does storm the court/field after a game also faces criminal charges.
I guarantee there's been plenty fans injured due to getting trampled in court/field stormings that don't get reported on because they're some random kid and not an athlete.
@Texas-Hawk-10 why does an undesirable outcome
warrant criminalization? I would feel better about pressing charges against the kid who injured Filipowski, even though it appeared to be an accident, than pressing charges against all court stormers. I believe court storming is a connection between fans and the sport.
But my point in that post is that Kyle came to the wrong conclusion. He wasnt injured intentionally.
As for the severity of the injury, I think Duke is hyping it up to garner sympathy.
@approxinfinity said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 why does an undesirable outcome
warrant criminalization? I would feel better about pressing charges against the kid who injured Filipowski, even though it appeared to be an accident, than pressing charges against all court stormers. I believe court storming is a connection between fans and the sport.But my point in that post is that Kyle came to the wrong conclusion. He wasnt injured intentionally.
As for the severity of the injury, I think Duke is hyping it up to garner sympathy.
That's a terrible fucking take on this. And yes, I'm worked up about because it's not something that needs to exist. Why is thus something to be reactive instead of proactive about? What's the narrative going to be when a player eventually gets injured to the point that they do miss the rest of the season? Or worst case for a school, a fan gets paralyzed or killed in a situation like this either getting trampled or falling running down the seats?
I don't care if it's a way for players and fans to connect, it's a dangerous fucking environment and a matter of time before something truly tragic happens.
Don't forget the collective reaction 10 years ago in Manhattan with Jamari Traylor and a KSU fan.
@Texas-Hawk-10 why play basketball at all? Reduce the risk of injury and dont play any sports.
@approxinfinity said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 why play basketball at all? Reduce the risk of injury and dont play any sports.
Why do fans need to be on the court at any point before, during, or after a game? What purpose does that serve other than creating a dangerous environment for all involved?
@Texas-Hawk-10 you or i may not want to be on the court as a fan, but that doesnt mean the students dont gain some benefit from it. The beauty of college sports is the feeling of connection between players and the student body. Ive mentioned before that this basic premise of college athletics is being strained by NIL, that players and students live in exceedingly different worlds. I think taking court storming away is another step down this road.
@approxinfinity https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/05/sports/ncaabasketball/storming-the-court-a-cherished-rite-can-be-a-danger.html ā
This is why court storming needs to banned. People do get hurt in these things. A reporter on press row shouldn't have to worry about having his leg/ankle broken just because someone wins a game. And this was at Hilton where KU has absolutely had some near misses with court storming incidents turning into something bigger.
Allen Fieldhouse is always considered one of the best atmospheres in all of sports. Court storming is not part of the culture of Kansas basketball so it is absolutely possible to have that connection and excitement without having to rush onto a playing surface putting others safety in jeopardy after a win.
@Texas-Hawk-10 ok, a couple people get hurt. We didnt ban basketball when Paul George shattered his leg on a stancheon. Again, just because court storming isnt your cup of tea doesnt mean it isnt someone elses.
Im sure it will get banned, because plenty of people think like you do. That we can make everything dangerous illegal.
I just ask that we stop and smell the roses, and take stock of the side effects of decisions like this.
@approxinfinity said in Other bball games:
This is a situation where you say āits unfortunate that players can get injured by passionate fans ā not āthose fans tried to hurt me, poor meā, but this is what you get when your coach is also a pampered child.
I think your dead wrong saying Flip is over reacting, the kid was trying to gt off the court, and hell ya If I were him and all these idiots racing on the court I'd be throwing a fore arm to. I'd be doing whatever I needed to do to protect myself against that mob. - -Act like you belong, you detract from what your team just did by beating this team.
Have you eve seen Ku storm the court when they have beaten higher ranked teams ? - I'll never that - -NO you haven't. -What's it gonna take someone getting hurt really bad before they decide to take action on this ?- -Your messing with a kids future with your Court storming. Someone could end up getting hurt really bad-- Then what ?
Mama's gonna make all of your
Nightmares come true
Mama's gonna put all of her fears into you
Mama's gonna keep you right here
Under her wing
She won't let you fly but she might let you sing
Mama will keep baby cosy and warm
Ooooh Babe Ooooh Babe Ooooh Babe
Of course Mama's gonna help build the wall
@approxinfinity said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 ok, a couple people get hurt. We didnt ban basketball when Paul George shattered his leg on a stancheon. Again, just because court storming isnt your cup of tea doesnt mean it isnt someone elses.
Im sure it will get banned, because plenty of people think like you do. That we can make everything dangerous illegal.
I just ask that we stop and smell the roses, and take stock of the side effects of decisions like this.
What the hell does Paul George's broken leg have to do with court storming? That was an injury that occurred during normal basketball activities. Players get hurt during games and practices doing basketball activities, it sucks, but that is part of the sport and not 100% preventable. Injuries caused by court stormings are 100% preventable.
A college player, fans, and reporters shouldn't have to worry about making it off the court safely if the home team wins a fucking game.
@Texas-Hawk-10 sure Paul Georgeās injury is preventable: ban basketball.
Thats my point.
Dropping f bombs doesnt validate yours.
I always appreciated a good mosh pit as a kid. I didnt usually go in it. But i appreciated it.
@approxinfinity said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 sure Paul Georgeās injury is preventable: ban basketball.
Thats my point.
Dropping f bombs doesnt validate yours.
I don't give a shit right now. You dismissing someone getting hurt in a 100% preventable situation and then trying to compare it to a player breaking his leg during a practice in a normal basketball situation is a bullshit argument and you know it because you don't have a valid comeback to court storming being an outdated practice.
@Texas-Hawk-10 my argument is valid. You are choosing not to see it.
Banning is rarely the answer. People get hurt all the time in life and they can all be labeled as 'preventable' if you ban whatever caused the injury. Its a lame and brainless approach to solving what is usually a non-problem. Nobody can prevent all injuries. I do think it is reasonable to expect the colleges to implement a better system for escorting players off of the court before allowing fans on the court.
I don't think it was "intentional" as Filipowski has put it. That's changed the conversation or narrative. I have thought ever since KU had brush ups in Manhattan and Hilton years ago and other examples across the country that there should be something in place to get the opposing team off the floor before the storming. It's not like they are about to enjoy what happens.
I agree that it's part of the unique bond of the game so a ban isn't the solution either.
@approxinfinity said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 sure Paul Georgeās injury is preventable: ban basketball.
Thats my point.
Dropping f bombs doesnt validate yours.
Court storming is also preventable without banning it. Don't lose the game... I'm with you @approxinfinity storming the field, the court, taking the goal posts, etc. are part of what keep college sports unique especially as the athletes themselves become more like the paid employees they've always truly been.
Didn't Wake call a timeout with 1 second left and a 4 point lead? To me, that is almost a gift to the opposing team to figure out exactly what the plan is because at that point, you know the storm is coming. Having your frail, soft, 7 footer on the other side of the court and him making no effort to exit the court quickly are, in this case, his and his coaches problem. Have some awareness. Take some responsibility for your own actions. It's a lot easier to manage 5 players than thousands of fans.
And sorry @Texas-Hawk-10 the argument is valid whether or not you agree with it.
I hope they ban it while the visiting team is still on the court/field. The players and coaches deserve a chance to shake hands and exit. That's a good tradition too. If the home team wants to run out to midcourt and jump around with students after that, go for it.
And enforce the ban by forfeiting the game. Not going to hurt KU at all, LOL.
@DanR I do think something like a technical foul especially if the storm is early like with .2 on the clock or something. Free throws for every person in the field of play before time fully expired? That could get fun! "Kansas blows out KSU in dramatic fashion! Dejuan Harris finished the game with 135 points after going 131-196 at the free throw line in the final second of the game. His free throws erased a 13 point lead and allowed KU to notch the second ever victory by 100 points or more in school history."
@DanR said in Other bball games:
I hope they ban it while the visiting team is still on the court/field. The players and coaches deserve a chance to shake hands and exit. That's a good tradition too. If the home team wants to run out to midcourt and jump around with students after that, go for it.
And enforce the ban by forfeiting the game. Not going to hurt KU at all, LOL.
This doesn't work. All KU has to do is send a handful of fans to every away game dressed in the other team's clothes and if they lose those fans storm the court too fast and would just give them the win. They would never lose a game! Ha. Not saying they would do it but its not a solution that would work.
Dramatic wusses. All BS. No chance he doesnt play. None.
Apparently ESPNs original title of the article said that Filipowski needed an MRI. He did not. Dont believe the hype.
Surprised to see @approxinfinity such a fan of storming.
Just set a countdown clock at 45 seconds or something. Let the players get off the court. I don't care if Filipowski or Caitlin faked whatever, they should be able to exit the court to the locker room or the handshake line without some idiot with their phone out smashing into them. Clearly a guy ran directly over to Filipowski to slap him on the back after he'd been caught up in the mob. Probably said, "Good game, Luv Ya" or something.
Maybe I'm still pissed at Traylor getting body checked and the dejected look on his face when he knew he'd end up in prison if he retaliated against that asshat KSU fan. The players are especially defenseless now with the NIL stuff. Fans are not supposed to be on the court.
I was also at the KU-Tennessee game in Knoxville where the walk-ons beat #1 KU in jan, 2010. I felt like they deserved the court storming, but it was still an ugly environment. Luckily it was an early Sunday afternoon game and the fans were only drunk from the night before.
Court storming is banned in the SEC. Really has done a bang up job of stopping it.
Letās get back to the other games like the thread is labeled, we all have our opinions on this matter. KSUCK blows a 25 point lead to WVU gets bailed out by a foul call late and fouls the hell outta WVUās last shot attempt. Then prevails for the 12 consecutive time in OT. In doing so they set a record for most OT games in a season with 7. Crazy to think how lucky they are, an eye lash from being 10-18.
@DanR Color me surprised!
My wife and I were at that Tennessee game and I have never seen opposing fans treat visitors better than we experienced. A few guys ran by us cheering as we walked away from the arena, and they saw our shirts. They stopped, and said "Oh, sorry!" We said, "Enjoy it! You deserve to cheer." They thanked us and ran away laughing.
I don't know what you saw, but we were at the very top row behind at one end, so if anything happened down where binoculars weren't needed we might have missed it.
Was there a court storming way down there?
Good way to end court storming: Forfeit next game.
@mayjay said in Other bball games:
Good way to end court storming: Forfeit next game.
Probably can't forfeit the game, but maybe forfeit the next win? Tickets for the game are sold and TV contracts are signed, so the next game must be played. And forfeiting the game/win punishes the team, who didn't do anything wrong; all they did was win a big game. Fan behavior, like public behavior in general must improve. So, I guess the solution is to arrest the fans for tresspassing, or at least as many as may be detained. A couple of videos showing trespassing fans in cuffs likely changes most of the bad behavior.
K?Stat about wet the bed last night, so dam lucky- -I mean they get out scored 31-7 in the last 10 1/2 minutes of regulation. They get lucky as I don't think they een realized or was going to try to foul one of Wv worst free throw shooters at this particular point - -then aftr that Wv's guy got mugged next time down and yet --NOTHING
Here a few thoughts about court storming and how to stop it. The next game, students are not allowed to attend. Any student that touches an opposing team player is banned from attending all sports games for a year from the incident. The next game that they lose on their own court, they must watch as the opposing team and its fans storm the court and celebrate.
In conference it could be easy to stop - you lose the return game - ie since KSU stormed the court against KU this year, next year KU gets two home games against KSU.
Personally I donāt get offended by it. Quite the opposite, I feel itās a sign of respect when they storm the court after beating KU, they expected to lose or they wouldnāt act a fool. Also after years of frustration itās cool to see students rejoice in the victory. I do think there needs to be some basic safety measures installed though. Give the players a chance to exit the playing field first namely.
Was not surprised to see who set off the circus at the Texas/TTech game last night. Cunningham just plays so close to the line at all times that it's never a surprise when he goes way over it
Itās true. That said, his energy and passion are infectious. I wouldnāt mind having him on our team this year. Reminds me a bit of the way CB played.
That was a dirty ass hit by Cunningham and the officials did a great job to control the situation. He looked right at and then lowered his shoulder. 9/10 thatās a full blown brawl between two teams.
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Kyle will play tonight! I for one will now exhale.
@approxinfinity amazing!
@approxinfinity He wasnāt ever hurt just milking it
@approxinfinity right up there in the Kirk Gibson/Willis Reed pantheon. Absolutely inspiring.
So thrilled he was able to give it a go under such duress conditions
@FarmerJayhawk I bet the bloody sock ends up in the Duke hall of fame! (Curt Schilling reference for ya)
Man , BYU was down by 17 in the 1st half at home against TCU - - now BYU up 13 points with 2:20 left in the game. bour ready to take their record to 21-8
@jayballer67 BYU is a solid team that can beat anyone when they are hitting. The key against them is hold the ball and keep them from running.
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 BYU is a solid team that can beat anyone when they are hitting. The key against them is hold the ball and keep them from running.
ya they make sure to get you spread out, lot of decent shooters, and work the ball as to where sooner or later someone is going to have a wide open 3
You don't think this league isn't a war zone every night out? - -Texas just curb stomping Baylor at Baylor right now 30-16 with still like 11:30 to go in the firt half
Holy crap! Houston's down at half against UCF!
I don't see UCF pulling it off unless the lights go out and they have to end the game right now.
It helps us (maybe a little?) that Houston's in a tough fight tonight and then has to travel home before we see them on Saturday.
It will be key for us to hit about 3 to 4 more triples than usual and keep them off the offensive boards.
LJ Cryer was a great pickup for Houston. Big time scoring guard. Only 3 assists for Houston with 1:42 left. KU needs such a guy at point?
Brigham Young up by eleven-- 38-27 at the half over Iowa St at the half iin Ames. - -Man I would not want them in my bracket in the NCAA -They drain so many three's - -spread you out , wide open three's. They are gonna be dangerous
@Gorilla72 Cryer is an unbelievable PG, passing or shooting both can be great. Few are good at both Kolek for Marquette is arguably the best in the land this season averaging 15 and almost 8 assists while shooting 40% from 3. Some Juanās problem is our lack of consistent shooters, I really thought he could be a 10 and 10 type of guy if he was aggressive enough. If him and Hunter are both returning we have to get guys that can shoot the ball at the 2 and 3 spot. Then we will be very dangerous.
Would probably help us if ISU won tonight in terms of seeding for the conference tournament. Crazy to think we could finish outside the top 5 in conference for the first time in B12 history and probably back to the early 80s. Iām disappointed in how many streaks have ended between this teams loses and the vacated 2018 season.
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@Gorilla72 Cryer is an unbelievable PG, passing or shooting both can be great. Few are good at both Kolek for Marquette is arguably the best in the land this season averaging 15 and almost 8 assists while shooting 40% from 3. Some Juanās problem is our lack of consistent shooters, I really thought he could be a 10 and 10 type of guy if he was aggressive enough. If him and Hunter are both returning we have to get guys that can shoot the ball at the 2 and 3 spot. Then we will be very dangerous.
LJ Cryer is a 2, not a 1. Even at Baylor, he was their 2. He's never averages more than 2.1 assists per game in his career. Jamal Shead is UH's point guard
@Texas-Hawk-10 For sure, they both bring to up at times but Shead is more a passer for sure. Iāve only watched. A few Houston games. They both are great guards no question.
ISU fans all braggy on twit about having the best atmosphere in the league because BYU coach said it was. Fine, they can hang a banner, we'll show them how to hang a banner, but ours are a wee bit more impressive.
Iowa State / Iowa State - - GAME OVER - -9-2 -right off the bat ISU - -K/State body language is like they don't want to be here- - -why are we even here look. -really pathetic. - -I mean they look bad, and just dis interested
UNC dook time. Always hype for this one. GTHD
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Ladies having trouble keeping up with Texas tonight close game thru out but Texas pulling away late. No answer for their bigs and we have had turnover issues this half.
Flopkowski could commit a felony and not get his 5th foul
CORMAC
Love seeing Duke lose on their home floor for Senior night.
To Franklin Street!
Glad Coach K showed up to watch his team lose again.
Did I see an article saying it looked like Flopkowski tripped someone on UNC?
@Gorilla72 yeah he pulled a Grayson Allen
@Gorilla72 said in Other bball games:
Did I see an article saying it looked like Flopkowski tripped someone on UNC?
ya something in the water at Duke. I saw the clip on this and sure enough he ws down on the floor, dude comes running up the floor nd he just lifts his leg up when he is running by nd trips him , no doubt
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Do they teach this stuff?
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Do they teach this stuff?
As part of NIL they hand out 8x11's of Grayson Allen for their nightstands
Jason Williams, former Duke guard , when he saw this said totally Unacceptable.
First Grey baby boy - - -Now Felica- - go figure - -Dirty players
@jayballer67 Ehhh He was stretching out that sore knee from the court storming. Poor guy, how could anyone think otherwise?!? š
@BeddieKU23 I was in the UC the night this happened. Bulls had a decent season going until this play knocked Caruso out for 2 months. One of many, but that one was the most personal to me because I was there.
Allen is one of the dirtiest players. - -Like the guy said Allen's smirk when he was walking in the tunnel - - ---Somebody needed to smack that crap right off his face
@BeddieKU23 Iām honestly shocked someone hasnāt beaten the brakes off of him at this point. I said when we played them if he hurt one of our guys with that crap, Iād go over and beat the sh** outta his dad for raising him that way.
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
@BeddieKU23 Iām honestly shocked someone hasnāt beaten the brakes off of him at this point. I said when we played them if he hurt one of our guys with that crap, Iād go over and beat the sh** outta his dad for raising him that way.
I actually am surprised myself
@kjayhawks @jayballer67 said in Other bball games:
Allen is one of the dirtiest players. - -Like the guy said Allen's smirk when he was walking in the tunnel - - ---Somebody needed to smack that crap right off his face
Smacking the crap right off his face makes whoever does it Grayson Allen.
@wissox said in Other bball games:
@kjayhawks @jayballer67 said in Other bball games:
Allen is one of the dirtiest players. - -Like the guy said Allen's smirk when he was walking in the tunnel - - ---Somebody needed to smack that crap right off his face
Smacking the crap right off his face makes whoever does it Grayson Allen.
I will be more then happy to take that wrap from for that piece of work. - -I'm just waiting for him to do something to any numerous NBA players, and he will wish it was me slapping that punk face. -Could you imagine him trying some kind of cheap shot on Jo Jo ?--or some others and don't need to say well he wouldn't do that to someone of jo' Jo;s size - news flash - Grayson not the brightest light in the house. I wouldn't put it past him and if he does - - -look the F - - - out
Cincinnati, new record for the tourney, 16 3's.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Other bball games:
Cincinnati, new record for the tourney, 16 3's.
It would take us 5 or 6 games to get that many.... ;)
3-18, 16.7% #0 made all 3
Welp BYU advances- - 87-73 over UCF. - -Like I said before I wouldn't want to match up against them in the Tourney, the way they shoot the three.
McNeese is going to be a nasty 12 seed for someone. Old Coach Strong Ass Offer has them playing terrific
@FarmerJayhawk said in Other bball games:
McNeese is going to be a nasty 12 seed for someone. Old Coach Strong Ass Offer has them playing terrific
They're a potential 1st round opponent for KU since they're likely to land on the 12/13 line and we're likely to land on the 4/5 line at this point.
Gosh, what will i do with the 10 brackets i usually pen KU in to win on?
@approxinfinity said in Other bball games:
Gosh, what will i do with the 10 brackets i usually pen KU in to win on?
Have KU winning them all just in case Bill saved his last magic trick for the next 3 weeks. I know, unlikely but heck, how will you sleep if they win it all and you had Gonzaga winning it all on 10 brackets:astonished_face:
WuShock about to pop Pennyās bubble
@BeddieKU23 Screw magic. He needs Divine Intervention
@FarmerJayhawk that was big for KSU, they win tonight they maybe in sad face
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
@FarmerJayhawk that was big for KSU, they win tonight they maybe in sad face
I think youāre safe
Duke's in trouble against NC State.
Always a great day when Duke loses
A Duke loss and a Mildcat loss we are up and rolling folks
8 Creighton lost to Providence in a Big East quarterfinal.
Duke and Creighton both losing might keep us on the 3 line
@rcjhdraft said in Other bball games:
Duke and Creighton both losing might keep us on the 3 line
Very much doubt it. Our seed will likely depend on McCullar and Dickinson's health. We'll likely be a 4 seed at best.
Iām thinking 4 possibly 5, they may give us 4 with Hunter and Kevin being back. We are 19th in Net, 22nd in KenPom and 17th in RPI. They may give us a little lead way because of injuries but prob the 3rd or 4th 4 seed.
Baylor and Cincinnati in a tight one, how many do the bearcats need to get in?
I was just looking and interesting that No bracket projections even show Cincinnati on the bubble just out. KSU is on the bubble with a worse record and a head to head loss to them last week. Cincinnati KenPom: 33, KSU: 70, Net Cincinnati: 34, KSU: 68 and RPI Cincinnati: 68, KSU: 71. Just seems interesting to me that would be the case.
The late window got bonkers
Maybe we should rename this thread āPost-season Schadenfreudeā.
There is sure to be more today. Kentucky? Could UConn lose?
I thought we were bad cryin and moanin and bitchin about how bad this Season has turned out, Wasa checking out various sites last night and came across the live podcast from the Duke site right after their loss to NC State last night.
Mercy you would think the world was coming to an end. Talking about how they had NO BENCH-- -hmmm sound familiar?
They are playing only like six players , who they should invite to come back next year, who should be shown the door , Talking about How if they only gonna play six WHY do they have all these guys and how they are losing Powers, how he won't be back.
Giving Scheyer hell for not playing guys and giving them experience when they are up 15 points- -20 points late so they can gain expeience lol - -- Guess we aren't the only fans not happy
Tennessee is going down. - -down 14 to Mississippi St
UNC is now in the driver's seat for the 4th 1 seed.
Texas A&M is up 10 over UK with 4:55 left.
@Gorilla72 Kentucky's defense is so, so bad. I'd hate to see what these boards would be like if our defense was that bad.
CBB is so bad across the board lol
I pray we don't get Nebraska as a matchup.
Kesei is one of my favorite players to watch. Just the loosest cannon
Arizona about to lose to Oregon....maybe
@rcjhdraft Fred Hoiberg's got them playing well.
Generally conference tournament results don't matter that much.
@wissox said in Other bball games:
Arizona about to lose to Oregon....maybe
Every bubble team will be cheering for Washington St. to win the final Pac 12 title as Oregon is a bid stealer and Colorado is a bubble team.
@wissox said in Other bball games:
Generally conference tournament results don't matter that much.
Depends. Conference tournament results are going to be the reason UNC gets tge 4th 1 seed this year since they're the only contender to reach their conference tournament championship game. It also very much matters for bubble teams as they want to make a run to take themselves put of harms way of the bid stealing teams that inevitably win some of the mid major tournaments.
Colorado just beat Washington St. to advance to the Pac 12 title game against Oregon. That's a game that all bubble teams will be watching since Oregon will be looking to steal a bid.
The ACC title game will be huge for the bubble as well as NC State could steal a bid as well if they win against UNC.
The American semifinals are also going to be worth watching as FAU is the only at large team in that league. If they lose, that's another bid steal. Regular season champs USF might be 24-6, but have not played a Quad 1 game all season and have 2 Quad 4 losses along with a NET ranking of 78.
If you watch as much BIG basketball as I do you really understand why Purdue flames out early. Zach gets so many calls by these refs. We get so pissed watching these games when we play them. 15 fouls against UW in the 1st half. 16 times this season UW has committed fewer fouls in a game. People get mad at Edey, it's really not his fault they call it like that.
I'm going out an pick Champion, I'm going to say Hoston claims the title. They for one just don't seem to get rattled, example last night Tech hits them hard in their come back before half - - Houston responds with a 31-5 run. I have seen how they go on runs, I think they said they have over 30-- -10-0 uns this season. they play you into their game - -their tempo, their defense just smothers you , forcing you to take some really bad shots - - -shot clock shots. They really don't turn the ball over that much , Shead a complete player , cryer sems to be on his game - -Francis solid - -Sharp really solid - just seem they have what it takes for sure. - -I say they win this year
@Crimsonorblue22 He did, but they kept calling crap fouls against Badgers. Zach has mauled two shooters in the 2nd half and not got whistled. He's still at 2 fouls in last minute of the game.
@Crimsonorblue22 He also bloodied the nose of a Badger shooter and didn't get a foul called.
The Zach Edey protection plan is in full effect now in overtime.
@wissox said in Other bball games:
The Zach Edey protection plan is in full effect now in overtime.
It's absurd. I feel bad for Wisconsin in a game I don't really care about because the officiating is THAT BAD.
@Crimsonorblue22 Yes satisfying win for sure.
@Crimsonorblue22 They were up to #6 in mid January and 8-1 in BIG. Then they blew a 20 point lead at Nebraska, and lost 8 of 11. A backup guards injury seemed to impact them as the Badgers are thin in that position. He's back now and they're playing better.
@kjayhawks Oh man I don't even wish that on our opponents. It is so frustrating to watch. It's inexplicable that Edey can run into a set Tyler Wahl at the top of the key and flatten him and get the call. That was one of about 10 head scratchers today.
@Crimsonorblue22 No. Since injured back up came back they're 4-1.
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Was Morningstar recruited over? I dont remember. I remember people bitching about him starting
The ability to put the ball throught the hoop is a fickle thing: Houston is shooting 28% and only 2/11, 18% from 3. Strange how an entire team shoots poorly for a half. But , only 7 pts down at the half, so things may change.
@approxinfinity said in Other bball games:
Was Morningstar recruited over? I dont remember. I remember people bitching about him starting
No, he redshirt the national title season which would've been his sophomore season.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Other bball games:
@approxinfinity said in Other bball games:
Was Morningstar recruited over? I dont remember. I remember people bitching about him starting
No, he redshirt the national title season which would've been his sophomore season.
Xavier Henry
@FarmerJayhawk said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Other bball games:
@approxinfinity said in Other bball games:
Was Morningstar recruited over? I dont remember. I remember people bitching about him starting
No, he redshirt the national title season which would've been his sophomore season.
Xavier Henry
See my comment on the other post, Brady missed the 1st semester that year because of his DUI as well so it wasn't like there was a real decision to made at that time over who to start.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Xavier was always going to start. The only real competition was Tyshawn vs Brady
Ok gotcha, forgot about that part of the morningstar chapter
Iowa State is crushing Houston
Congrats on the Super Bowl win Clones!
B12 tournament turning into the ISU invitational
We could use a Momcilovic
@FarmerJayhawk said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 Xavier was always going to start. The only real competition was Tyshawn vs Brady
And Brady likely would've started over Tyshawn that year had he been available from the beginning of the season because Self viewed him as KU's best perimeter defender at the time.
Some absolute bangers on right now
@approxinfinity said in Other bball games:
We could use a Momcilovic
We sure could. Gilbert, Ward are others that just play winning ball
Lets go Wolfpack
Gonna be weird will all these 1 seeds losing it NC state can pull it off.
I DID NOT see that coming.
i thought Iowa St had a good chance winning tonight and I felt Houston will go farther in the NCAA and I still feel that way but I did not see this coming
Ugh this game blows
@FarmerJayhawk said in Other bball games:
Ugh this game blows
The bubble teams aren't liking what's happening in DC right now.
@Crimsonorblue22 Did you see this one? š¦ View Tweet?s=20. It was called a foul on Tyler Wahl. CBS which was kissing Purdue tail all day kept saying oh come on now, that should be a no call.
Houston was missing a starter? Precautionary? Or are they really missing him big time?
@wissox the big that hurt his shin, bruised last game. He also had stitches in his hand from earlier game. Maybe ours. He started but went out pretty quick, guessing they were wanting to get him healed up. He's a tough guy. Got stitches during a game and came back and played.
Virginia getting absolutely embarrassed by Colorado St. in a First Four game losing by 26 with a little over 2 minutes left and still haven't even scored 40 points yet.
And Virginia finally reached 40 points for the game!
Colorado St. 67 - Virginia 42
Slap to the face of Oklahoma because they were one of the teams Virginia was chosen over. That was simply put a bid for the ACC they had no business making this season.
Mildcats bounced first round NIT by Iowa lol
@Texas-Hawk-10 When Self is done I want nothing to do with Bennett and have said that for years when his name was randomly brought up.
They had the luckiest title they stole from Tech.
His basketball philosophy is atrocious as he slows the game down which only brings inferior opponents into play. Itās like a football team running the ball a lot to burn clock and minimize possessionsā¦same thing with Bennett.
Heās more well know for the first ever 16 seed loss than the fluke title.
Nice guy but horrible ball coach
Oh man, now that's something.
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
Mildcats bounced first round NIT by Iowa lol
ya dude scored 30 on them , they losing some too 4 to be exact , and listening to Jerome may be more. Was asked if there were some they wanting back and then others told maybe to move on, his response was ummm how can I answer this the best without being rude.- -He says he think that's something that should be discussed between him and staff- - not media lol.
They are for sure losing McNair , Guessan , Glover that they had been counting on all year and never played - -and then they are also losing Perry
I live in Fort Collins and have seen a lot of CSU. The sad part of last night is that the national narrative is how sorry Virginia is, how they didn't deserve to get in...and nothing about how CSU actually played pretty well. Under-seeded and with a chip on their shoulder. I wouldn't be surprised if they beat Texas too.
@focojayhawk I know nothing about them. Is the narrative that they deserved a better seed?
@wissox said in Other bball games:
@focojayhawk I know nothing about them. Is the narrative that they deserved a better seed?
The narrative is the Mountain West got jobbed on seeding. They have 6 teams in the tournament in the field, only SDSU and Utah St. are top 8 seeds. The other 4 are 10 or 11 seeds. CSU and Boise are each in First Four games as 10 seeds and New Mexico is an 11 seed. Based on their computer rankings, SDSU is seeded where their rankings are, but everyone else is multiple seeds lower than they should be. Most of the MWC teams should be in 6-9 seed range, not 10 or 11 seeds. 11th seed New Mexico is ranked in the top 25 of the NET, Kenpom, RPI, most advanced metrics meaning computers believe they should be a 6 seed, not an 11 seed that this year isn't even an at large bid.
Montana St - - -Grambling St , pretty good game - 70-70 with 1:25 to play
@Texas-Hawk-10 Apparently the MW got penalized in seeding because so much of the teams' metrics were earned playing each other. But hasn't that been true of the Big 12 for years?
Cam Martin sighting for Boise. He just got T-d up for throwing a ball very lightly at a guy who tossed the ball at him very lightly who also got T-d up. Pretty laughable T really unless there was something said.
We should have a thread tracking former Jayhawks in the tournament.. There are quite a few.
@bskeet Here's a snippet I just read. 27. Tyon Grant-Foster, F, Grand Canyon
Grant-Foster is one of the most inspiring stories in college basketball this season. His career began at Kansas as a bench role player before he transferred to DePaul. At halftime of his first game with the Blue Demons, he collapsed in the locker room and had to have his heart shocked back into rhythm. Heās since had a heart surgery and defibrillator implanted in his chest. Medically cleared to return to the court, he signed with GCU where heās become the WAC Player of the Year by averaging 19.8 points, 6.0 rebounds, and 1.7 steals per game. Heās great at getting to the free throw line (12th in the nation in FTA) and converting his freebies (77% FT).
This was from a SB nation top 50 players in the dance list. Interestingly I was at that DePaul game and never heard about what happened to him until i read that.
@wissox said in Other bball games:
Cam Martin sighting for Boise. He just got T-d up for throwing a ball very lightly at a guy who tossed the ball at him very lightly who also got T-d up. Pretty laughable T really unless there was something said.
The guy he threw the ball at was Eddie Lampkin- -and I think he played at TCU ? - Lampkin flushed the ball on Martin then stepped over him first then dropped the ball on him and then Martin threw it back at Lampkin
Cincinnati needed overtime but gets past San Francisco in the opening round of the NIT. Would be pretty funny if a B12 team could win both tournaments. Think they may have a better shot with the NCAA one.
@wissox The seeding is questionable like @Texas-Hawk-10 said. The part that was a bummer to me is that likely no one on this board heard a recap of the CSU/UVA game and heard positive things about CSU. They've actually been a very entertaining watch all season and now they're lumped into the 'worst game ever' because of the narrative about their opponent. Ultimately the CSU story (and the whole MW story) only changes when they win more games in March. Besides SDSU last year, the conference has struggled quite a bit in the tourney.
Welp time for BYU to start. - - Let's go big 12, pulling for everyone now prove the strength and toughness of this conference
Go BYU
Well BYU didn't represent the league to well starting off. They never led for majority of the game, I think they led for like maybe a minute. - -not a good start
I didn't see BYU run any of the screens they used at AFH where they would get one 3 point shooter open to draw the defense, then a second shooter took the open shot. It always seems like Big 12 coaches and teams play much harder and game plan better against KU than in the tournament.
@stoptheflop said in Other bball games:
I didn't see BYU run any of the screens they used at AFH where they would get one 3 point shooter open to draw the defense, then a second shooter took the open shot. It always seems like Big 12 coaches and teams play much harder and game plan better against KU than in the tournament.
They really looked out of sync all day today. They for the longest time was having to scramble on defense --- you would find 2-3 BYU players all cluttered up trying to run their offense for quite awhile just out of sync
WOW -- Texas leading Colorado St- - -39-32 with 7 :30 to go in the game - - those baskets must be sealed shut
Is the Texas team mostly seniors? That weaver kid is a hustler.
@jayballer67 Score was 27-11 at half! Tex/COLST. Colorado state made a pretty good comeback after that disaster.
I hate to even bring up the OAK-UK game. Grizzlies are angry tonight
UK struggling tonight. Trailing Oakland by 3 at 11:55 of 2nd half.
@DanR said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 Score was 27-11 at half! Tex/COLST. Colorado state made a pretty good comeback after that disaster.
ya I watch some of it till others started , but they won , -- umm think they play Tennessee next -- uh oh
@jayballer67 said in Other bball games:
@DanR said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 Score was 27-11 at half! Tex/COLST. Colorado state made a pretty good comeback after that disaster.
ya I watch some of it till others started , but they won , -- umm think they play Tennessee next -- uh oh
if Tennessee wins, LOL
@DanR said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 said in Other bball games:
@DanR said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 Score was 27-11 at half! Tex/COLST. Colorado state made a pretty good comeback after that disaster.
ya I watch some of it till others started , but they won , -- umm think they play Tennessee next -- uh oh
if Tennessee wins, LOL
TRUE - -- Actually the lower seeds haven't done to bad for at least awhile today. -Hope ours isn't like that. Actually I do have in one of my many brackets lol - --I actually got U Conn & Tennessee --I know I know- -but Tennessee not bad
Talking heads thought zags would get upset, lol!
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Other bball games:
Talking heads thought zags would get upset, lol!
Not gonna lie , I thought it would be closer then this
Looking like Iowa State gonna cruise
Wow. Kentucky.
Can you imagine the Kentucky Fan base
:exploding_head:
@jayballer67 - I tried to look at the Rupp Rafters site last night. It was sloooowww. So many fans complaining, I guess.
@Gorilla72 said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 - I tried to look at the Rupp Rafters site last night. It was sloooowww. So many fans complaining, I guess.
OH they absolutely Roasting Cal and saying they are though supporting UK till he is gone.
@jayballer67 one of my favorites from Rupp Rafters: "No other coach in the history of NCAA BB has wasted this much talent"
@HoraceZontal said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 one of my favorites from Rupp Rafters: "No other coach in the history of NCAA BB has wasted this much talent"
Like I posted in a thread here - -Matt Norlander thinks he has Coached his last game, Matt saying what he is hearing in the Basketball industry Cal is through at UK
geez , Is Calvin Sampson ever happy ? lol
Scott Drew to UK would not surprise me.
Wisconsin in big trouble. JMU had pedal to the metal for 20 and i think can maintain it.
@bskeet said in Other bball games:
Scott Drew to UK would not surprise me.
Not a chance in hell. Dan Hurley at UConn would likely be at the top of their list.
Tyon Grant-Foater having a nice night for GCU. 16 pts midway through 2nd half.
@Texas-Hawk-10 is that realistic? Would he want that job over UConn? Something makes me think he is cemented in Stores.
@bskeet said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 is that realistic? Would he want that job over UConn? Something makes me think he is cemented in Stores.
No idea if Hurley would be interested, but if he's not, he'd absolutely leverage it for a raise at UConn. Other names that would likely be contacted are Jay Wright, Bruce Pearl, Billy Donovan, or Tommy Lloyd. Basically, Kentucky could contact just about any coach and they would listen because it's Kentucky which is a top 3 job in college basketball.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Other bball games:
@bskeet said in Other bball games:
Scott Drew to UK would not surprise me.
Not a chance in hell. Dan Hurley at UConn would likely be at the top of their list.
Hurley is only leaving for the NBA
KU Women playing against Michigan, 39-46 trailing by 7 with 2:40 in 3rd, back and forth.
Hopefully they can pull it off.
KU Women came from behind and won in OT.
Big Win for KU Women.
HEELS HEELS HEELS
@FarmerJayhawk if only I could down vote lol, definitely donāt want UNC getting another title.
@AsadZ said in Other bball games:
KU Women came from behind and won in OT.
Big Win for KU Women.
The board now shifts to focus on a Lady Jayhawks' dream run... They will have to be the giant-killers on Monday.
@bskeet said in Other bball games:
@AsadZ said in Other bball games:
KU Women came from behind and won in OT.
Big Win for KU Women.
The board now shifts to focus on a Lady Jayhawks' dream run... They will have to be the giant-killers on Monday.
Ya USC on their home floor- - -with what's her name
@jayballer67 Ju Ju
Might be some good viewing tonight to see Indiana St and Cream Abdul Jabbar take on Cincy in the NIT. 8 central on ESPN.
@approxinfinity You hadn't heard of him? He's a really dynamic player. Defense is pretty poor which I think keeps him in mid major territory. Chicago kid too which makes me proud but like why Terra Haute? Why not more local here?
Smartest thing Joe Lunardi has said this year, maybe:
Speaking of "middling" majors, power conference at-large teams that didn't crack .500 in their respective leagues have gone 3-5 in the NCAA tournament and 12-13 in the NIT, with the latter playing almost entirely at home. Meanwhile, the true mid-majors that received or would have received the most at-large consideration had they needed it -- Grand Canyon, James Madison, McNeese and Indiana State -- posted an aggregate 4-3 record across both tournaments (including two massive NCAA wins). I point this out not to pile on the likes of Greg Sankey -- after all, one of his SEC teams had the gross injustice of being paired with one of the seven natural wonders of the world -- but to remind everyone that we consistently overrate one class of team ("middling" majors) at the expense of their true mid-major counterparts.
I have a hard time finding injustice in leaving out teams that donāt have a chance to win it all. Iād be fine with a 32 team field. Actually I think Iād prefer a 32 team field - the tournament would be higher quality games across the board, even when upsets happen you would still end up with a decent matchup. Also the regular season would be much more important, winning the conference becomes very valuable.
I can still remember when it was a thirty two team field and they played a 3rd place game in the NCAA tourney
I get @dylans point. Most sports don't have very "pure" champions anymore. In professional sports wildcards means lesser baseball teams can get hot and ride a couple of hot arms deep into October. NBA almost crowned a Miami team that was a minute away from losing in the playin tournament last year. NFL sees wildcards advance far it seems many years. But college football always had it right. They always had 4 great teams with some debates some year of a team that should have been invited instead, but the team hoisting the plaque was always one of the very best teams. Now they're watering it down and some year a team that squeaks in with 3 losses will get hot or healthy and win a Natty. I documented several months ago how UConn has seemingly been lucky each of their 5 championships by defeating a watered down final 4 each time, with maybe an exception the first time they won.
The big argument against limiting the field is our 88 team doesn't qualify for the dance, nor does Villanova the year before, but there really are few teams winning the NCAA that wouldn't have been invited if the field was limited to 32 teams.
"Best team" award is like Brucie's "We tried harder" argument.
It is bizarre to be worrying that "dilution" is caused by a tournament being expanded and that this threatens the meaningfulness of a champ without an elite record.
If you are so interested in protecting the best teams, don't have any tournament at all. Better yet, bow to reality and accept that the champ is the one that wins the tournament and don't cry about it.
The tournament isnāt ever going down in sizzle and never will be hosed by the better seeds. It is a spectacle that generates a crap load of money. The networks want the upsets and attention from them. Love it or hate it everyone knows what the deal is.
@kjayhawks itās really smart that the womenās game has figured out the value for them IS in getting the best teams to the later rounds for big match ups and keeping stars in the field. Both tournaments feel like they are playing off of each other well right now and I hear lots more talk about both.
@benshawks08 for sure and the women donāt change teams near as often at this point you look at Angel at LSU and Caitlin at Iowa. You could argue the womenās have more familiarity and stories other than a whole new team after a year or two.
@kjayhawks said in Other bball games:
@benshawks08 for sure and the women donāt change teams near as often at this point you look at Angel at LSU and Caitlin at Iowa. You could argue the womenās have more familiarity and stories other than a whole new team after a year or two.
Had to love it the other night saw a video where Caitlin's dad was in the stands and told Caitlin to shut the hell up , because she was spending so much dam time whining to the officials That basically was what the whole video was about. How Caitlin crying to the officials so much during games that is detracting away from her accomplishments. -Classic Kodak moment seeing her own dad telling her to shut up lmao
@jayballer67 to be fair I do think Clark is dealing with being under a microscope like no womenās college basketball player before ever has while also dealing with a double standard. Kevin McCullar and Iowa state fans whine to officials way more than her.
@benshawks08 said in Other bball games:
@kjayhawks itās really smart that the womenās game has figured out the value for them IS in getting the best teams to the later rounds for big match ups and keeping stars in the field. Both tournaments feel like they are playing off of each other well right now and I hear lots more talk about both.
The women's tournament home games in the first couple rounds have nothing to do with any intent to keep better teams in the tournament longer. That is the effect of wanting to actually have fans in the seats.
If the women's tournament could fill neutral venues like the men's tournament, they would do it in a minute. And all but the top 16 teams would be thrilled.
@benshawks08 said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 to be fair I do think Clark is dealing with being under a microscope like no womenās college basketball player before ever has while also dealing with a double standard. Kevin McCullar and Iowa state fans whine to officials way more than her.
I've never seen Kevin act like that towards officials. No way man. She looked like a spoiled rotten crybaby child in those clips. I was embarrassed for her. Genuinely makes me dislike her. That combined with the court storming flop. I am surprised more people haven't turned on her by now. If she wasn't bringing in so much money to the sport she would be blasted by the media. Can't wait for the day we stop hearing about how many half court shots she chucked up and made. Enough.
Her dad was very embarrassed! I would've been too!
Kelly Oubre was just a huge joke on twitter for telling every ref they were a bitch. It was funny when he did it but Caitlyn is a spoiled crybaby child.
Rewatch some games and pay attention to Kevin on just about every drive and what comes after it. He also almost got in a fight with an opposing coach. Iām not trying to say Kevin is bad or anything, just pointing out the double standard.
@benshawks08 great point. Honestly go look at any star from the past. MJ, Bird, Magic all jawed at the refs. I'm 83% sure James Naismith got an earful from one of his students for a bad call back in Springfield.
@FarmerJayhawk not sure if this is sarcastic or not but it really is my point. She plays with competitive fire. Does it go overboard sometimes? Sure. But thatās kinda the way competitive fire works.
@benshawks08 oh, not at all! I totally agree with you.
@benshawks08 said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 to be fair I do think Clark is dealing with being under a microscope like no womenās college basketball player before ever has while also dealing with a double standard. Kevin McCullar and Iowa state fans whine to officials way more than her.
umm No they don't , not even close - -every dam time. - - her dad's reaction pretty well acknowledges, she thinks cause she set the record she should get special privileges - -umm no just play the dam game , and the rest will take care of itself
@RockkChalkk said in Other bball games:
@benshawks08 said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 to be fair I do think Clark is dealing with being under a microscope like no womenās college basketball player before ever has while also dealing with a double standard. Kevin McCullar and Iowa state fans whine to officials way more than her.
I've never seen Kevin act like that towards officials. No way man. She looked like a spoiled rotten crybaby child in those clips. I was embarrassed for her. Genuinely makes me dislike her. That combined with the court storming flop. I am surprised more people haven't turned on her by now. If she wasn't bringing in so much money to the sport she would be blasted by the media. Can't wait for the day we stop hearing about how many half court shots she chucked up and made. Enough.
Makes it hard to watch , every dam time whe sniveling about something - - dam , just play the game for GOD'S sakes
@benshawks08 said in Other bball games:
@FarmerJayhawk not sure if this is sarcastic or not but it really is my point. She plays with competitive fire. Does it go overboard sometimes? Sure. But thatās kinda the way competitive fire works.
Almost to a tea - -EVERY PLAYER male & female play with that edge , that s you say competitive fire and yet you don't see them bitching like that - - -not nearly as much -just a really bad look on her part
I think it's different 'cause she's in college and she's setting an example for young gals. Pro guys act terrible all the time and get by with it. Not acceptable at all, but this was funny to me. Didn't one of the morri' twins get thrown out recently. They scare me! Oubre at least wasn't attacking anyone.
Clemson upset Arizona and UConn blew out San Diego St. by 30 in the first two Sweet 16 games tonight.
@RockkChalkk I kind of liked your first part but the court storming flop comment just gauls me. I think your feelings about her are clouding your judgment about that moment. Fans doing something technically illegal run into her and you really think she had time to process that situation like ok I'm gonna flop? I'm no fan of her or Filipkowski at Duke but I'm appalled people will criticize them because of out of control fans running into them.
@Crimsonorblue22 Fans don't run on the court there's no controversy. Why would they flop?
Terrance Shannon Jr. has a weirdly effective 3 point shot. Looks kind of odd but he makes them at a decent rate.
The question is almost the same as last year at this time, can anyone play with UConn? Is Brad Underwood finally doing something in March
These are some great games tonight.
Grant Nelson vs Brandon Ingram..
@approxinfinity Both interested here but weād already promised 4 spot minutes to a 6-5 center
Just like many ball dominated guards but we end up with Timby, Marcus Adamās and then furphy with no stud 2 coming except the guy only DePaul wanted which says plenty
Billās pets is killing billās recruiting. Any wright can claim he has a fire lit after this year bs Iāll believe it when I see it. This year we were supposed to level upā¦dude road his pets to a 6th place big 12 finish and another round of 32ā¦20 point blowout
@FarmerJayhawk Bummer. I was pulling for you guys.
@KirkIsMyHinrich sigh. On we go.
Hilarious on Twitter seeing KState fans take shots at ISU for losing last night. Hilarious seeing ISU fans on twitter (X) saying the loss isn't surprising since they're now every teams super bowl. Yes, we now call ISU our Super Bowl!
Not watching but Duke Houston combine for 45 first half points. When MSU-UW did a little worse in 2000 Roy Williams famously said they were pushing the game back a half century. I wonder if he's dusting up that line again?
Filipowski constantly lowering his shoulder and driving to get the foul. Lord, I dislike Duke.
@wissox said in Other bball games:
@wissox Just read Shead got hurt. Too bad especially as it benefits Duke.
Likely cost UH the game.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Sad ending to a great collegiate player and career.
Hard to believe this is only Tennessee's second ever Elite 8 appear with as much success as that program has had in its history.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Other bball games:
Hard to believe this is only Tennessee's second ever Elite 8 appear with as much success as that program has had in its history.
Equally hard to believe that the B12 will be missing in action when the Elite 8 games tip off. Stunning result for the top-rated conference (issue with the ratings?). Solid 5-3 in first round games, but only 2 made it to the Sweet 16 and none past that. Every other major conference has performed better (yes, the SEC was bad in the first round, but has 2 in the E8).
@dylans said in Other bball games:
@DCHawker If KU is having an off year, the Big12 wonāt do squat in the tournament. Next year might be different with Arizona in conference (theyāve already flamed out too though) as Iām not sure Houston or Baylor will push KU long term.
UH is absolutely sustainable as a B12 power once Sampson retires. They have a benefactor who is pretty much single handedly responsible for elevating UH both academically and athletically into a B12 level school and will do whatever it takes to keep UH relevant.
I do agree that I don't see Baylor sustaining their level of success post Scott Drew. It took him a decade to get Baylor to a consistent contender and is essentially all of Baylor's basketball history.
@dylans Zona has been a top 2 seed in the west at least three times playing in the relatively cozy confines of LA and lost 3 times in the regional out there. I looked at Zona's history page and they're 4-8 all time against us, but have winning records against Duke and Kentucky and Mich State. We're the only blue blood they can't handle but that will be put to the test as they join our league.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Baylor always has key injuries. I can't believe we beat them w/out Kevin. I don't think they are as strong as they were 2 yrs ago. Tang leaving?
Remarkable IL-UConn game...Huskies 3 guards are 2-17 and team is 1-13 from 3, but they are up 16. They just have so many different weapons and ways to beat you...
@DCHawker said in Other bball games:
Remarkable IL-UConn game...Huskies 3 guards are 2-17 and team is 1-13 from 3, but they are up 16. They just have so many different weapons and ways to beat you...
25-0 in the second half with 13 minutes to go...
@DCHawker said in Other bball games:
@DCHawker said in Other bball games:
Remarkable IL-UConn game...Huskies 3 guards are 2-17 and team is 1-13 from 3, but they are up 16. They just have so many different weapons and ways to beat you...
25-0 in the second half with 13 minutes to go...
A 33-2 run by UConn. Just stunning against a quality opponent...
This UConn team is amazing
One has to tip off their hats on this extraordinary performance since last year
What UConn has been doing in NCAA tournaments since last year is absolutely amazing. Thye are destroying their opponents.
They have very good players but we must give credit to their coaching staff.
KUBallin, I will not trade Self tho, I am 100% confident he will be back with vengeance.
Hurley is a good coach, but his face is very punchable - itās the arrogant, smug way he carries himself I suppose.
@dylans said in Other bball games:
Hurley is a good coach, but his face is very punchable - itās the arrogant, smug way he carries himself I suppose.
Duke Coach is right thee with him for me.
Hurley reminds me of Boeheim in terms of a balance of smug sarcasm and competence. Scheyer is the lead if Tommy Boy was directed by the director of Twilight.
@AsadZ Hurley as a person is a jerk but gotta respect his maturity to review his philosophy and adjust it to have better success in this form of college bball
I donāt think so on the vengeance I think if we get bounced early again next year he will look to retire faulting the portal and how it all works as a reason he couldnāt be consistent (ignoring how other programs leverage it and are being successful)
Edey with 40-16 to lead Purdue to their first Final Four since 1980.
So this is definitely a meteor game but itās going to really suck when the dook whistle takes over
And there's a Duke whistle leading to a technical against NC State's coach.
DJ Burns is in beast mode right now!
Jeremy Roach is a brave man trying to take a charge from Burns.
Filipowski just fouled out with 5 minutes left.
I don't even care if he plays for state I love Burns
Watching Duke lose in the tournament every year is the consolation prize for when we get eliminated early.
I think NC State is getting ready to be having a very good day in basketball with both teams making the Final Four today.
Shoutout Diarra who has to be like really, really thirsty but it still out there making FTs
Dookās last 5 years involve a 13-11 season, losing to UNC in Kās last game, getting bounced in the second round, and losing to NC State. BRUTAL.
We love DJ Burns
Relevant š¦ View Tweet?s=46&t=c7nSb4n31Zt8yMPA_wtYVw
Woof woof NC state
Is Flippy done now, Mr leet me just bulldoze my way through , Couldn't of happened to a better team.
@FarmerJayhawk I don't think Jesus would have been a good basketball player. Being perfect he could never foul meaning his defense would be poor. He'd have to pass up many open shots because he couldn't miss a shot and still be perfect. Being humble he might let the other team score and win because He was a champion for the leper, the demon possessed, the blind, the mute, the poor, they're the ones He wanted to get better. If he played our team he'd rebound another missed three and throw it back and say try again. A ball goes off His fingertips and instead of going to the monitor He'd just tell the referee that he touched it.
Man, after watching Purdue today, I am shocked at the lack whistles on those defending Edey. Constant aggressive arm bars in his back. Thought that was a point of emphasis?
@rockchalkjayhawk He's the most controversially officiated player I can ever remember.
As an opposing fan I see him get away with more contact than I can ever remember. If you care to watch this from the BIG championship game two weeks ago. š¦ View Tweet?s=20. We've seen a lot of this, trust me.
On the other hand, teams with lots of bodies to throw at Zach would rather foul him, and so Purdue fans make this the focus of their rants against the refs. He's not a perfect FT shooter, so it's a decent strategy, but then the FT count piles up and fans point out the discrepancy.
Also, I didn't watch the game yesterday so not sure how it was officiated.
I constantly harped on David McCormick's lack of footwork.
Watch a much bigger guy with great footwork to know what I was talking about... NC State's DJ Burns.
It's like he's dancing on tiptoes out there!
GO Wolfpack!
@drgnslayr I'm looking forward to the Zach/DJ matchup. Boiler Up!
@drgnslayr I wouldn't mind seeing NCState win TBH, my cousin went there and they're on the likable side of the ACC. No Bama, no UCONN in my view.
@drgnslayr It'd be interesting to be a fan of them and analyze if they're surprised (probably) or if they knew they had that potential and were frustrated at the way the regular season went?
I have a close friend who is a big fan and grad. Surprise isn't the right word. She thought they should have played better earlier on in the season. Talk about a rivalry... wow. Pack fans don't like being called "underdogs." It's what they always heard even after Jimmie V's nattie. Of course... the fan base is going absolutely nuts! Beating Puke to get into the FF... couldn't have been drawn up any better!
@drgnslayr said in Other bball games:
I constantly harped on David McCormick's lack of footwork.
Watch a much bigger guy with great footwork to know what I was talking about... NC State's DJ Burns.
It's like he's dancing on tiptoes out there!
IMO, Burns is an excellent passer also. I havenāt see him dunk, though.
Iām so jacked for the womenās games tonight
@FarmerJayhawk Not sure if I ever purposely turned on a Womans game, but tonight I did, on purpose! Mulkey wore green making it easier to watch her on court antics.
@wissox said in Other bball games:
@FarmerJayhawk Not sure if I ever purposely turned on a Womans game, but tonight I did, on purpose! Mulkey wore green making it easier to watch her on court antics.
That outfit is pretty tame from what she normally wears on the tournament.
@FarmerJayhawk I love that they score more points in one quarter than we do in a half.
@nuleafjhawk honestly the whole menās game has an offensive execution problem. There have been mostly stinkers in the tournament
@nuleafjhawk Not sure I catch your drift on ISU
Maybe I misunderstood. Were we talking football or basketball? I was thinking basketball so "Super Bowl" didn't click with me.
@FarmerJayhawk I have a theory that nobody wants to hear or would agree with.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Other bball games:
@wissox and itās a great double header! UConn USC isnāt getting near the buzz but also has two of the best players in America
3, Aliyah Edwards is also in that class.
@nuleafjhawk Basketball. ISU basketball fans were tweeting after they lost that the reason is since they're now the gods of the Big 12 it's like every teams super bowl when they're playing them!
@FarmerJayhawk NCAA scoring is way up. Offfensive execution seems to be in a better place. 8 teams averaged over 90 a game, none last year. 44 made it over 80 a game compared to 18 last year.
Apparently refs decided to call much less charging than in the past so maybe execution didn't improve?
@FarmerJayhawk watching! Also watching hutch juco on espnu playing for 1st, undefeated.
@nuleafjhawk It's kind of a common saying in sports. It means we get everyones best shot. Funny that ISU thinks they're that team now.
Why is JuJu Watkins player of the year and not Clark?
@nuleafjhawk She was runner up I just read. Could have sworn they said she was the NPOY.
I saw juju play against KU, good but not Caitlin Clark good!
@nuleafjhawk lol
Caitlin won the Naismith
This thread has so many subthreads going on that following any particular one is like trying to watch a single ant in an ant farm!
We were just visiting! By the way, never saw an ending like the HCC gals, true miracle!
This game rules
Iowa got some Vegas whistles...
Iowa vs South Carolina is the script everyone wanted?
@approxinfinity every one but Iowa fans
@approxinfinity Yes, for sure Vegas
I know it's kind of a first world problem but not putting these games on network TV is just stupid. The women will be on network TV
@Crimsonorblue22 Last year I subscribed to Sling for a month to get the tourney channels. That was because I used Fubo, which carries no Turner stations. This year I dropped Fubo and have subscription to YouTube TV, which carries everything in the tourney. So cable not necessary if you want to stream instead.
I have cable, so I have everything. I could watch some with the app at school. No sound.
@Crimsonorblue22 I have cable so it's not a problem for me, but I just don't get the logic behind it.
Anyone watching the Royals/White Sox? Scintillating!
@Crimsonorblue22 I'm an advocate for the cableless!
@wissox I generally root for the underdogs hence UConn women on this one.
I have great respect for what Clark has done but I also think she has been blown out of proportion by media when it comes to advocacy for women.
I think there are several other women athletes who are doing great work in this regard but donāt get the same recognition. I think I know the reason.
@wissox said in Other bball games:
@mayjay You're kidding, money? That's the answer? Hmmmm, imagine that.
I always find it interesting when the reason for everything is what I have comparatively nothing of. And yes, I did made that sentence not very good. (Limited to 1.5 glasses of Scotch tonight or my posts would be even funner!)
Hard to believe the Badgers beat that team 3 weeks ago. Purdue has only lost to Big 10 teams this season. Not sure if that means anything but here they are awaiting UCONN.
Sad world we live in when i am rooting for Alabama
@approxinfinity yuuup. Oats is a scum bag but Hurley is dook adjacent which is way worse
Boy the difference in just the fluidness of these teams Alabama & U Conn compared to Ku this year is night and day. The way they et up and down the floor, no big slow bodies clogging up the middle, their spacing , their passing just fluid good basketball
@jayballer67 :hundred_points: so smooth. Everyone knows where everyone is supposed to be
I read a nice article unfortunately I donāt have a link for yāall. It was an interview with Hurley asking him how he still gets max out of his players when most transfer when asked to be accountable. He said he is coaching harder and holding guys to much higher standard with their NIL package. Said basically they are getting good money to be playing there and if they donāt go hard they can leave. Really hope Bill gets back to that, I feel heās been a little soft the last 2 years.
Oh wow Bama gets within 1 again and UConn gets another bailout call
Comical
@kjayhawks You and me bothā¦..sawwwfffttt spots for d2 and kj. Plus Billās philosophy is still stuck in the 90ās with how he defends and offensively what he thinks is the perfect scheme
@FarmerJayhawk What is the word on oats?
Heās analytically driven with either chucking threeās or shots at the rim. Anti long 2 coach which I agree with
@jayballer67 And last yearā¦..
@jayballer67 I think there were games earlier in the season where we were fluid and really got up and down the court. Something caused a loss of confidence especially on the road. Were we soft? Probably. Were we a cohesive unit? For the most part no, and I go back to earlier when I said that is probably due to having only a few players who have been in Coach Self's system for 2 or more years. I would think that picking players from the portal has made it more difficult than ever to put together the right pieces.
@kuballin10 the Miller thing was a giant stain on his character, plus he put his hands on an opposing player this year.
@kuballin10 @FarmerJayhawk Nate Oats is a douche on all fronts
@approxinfinity it's a good thing Alabama didn't win. There ain't enough Natty and Pabst Blue Ribbon for them people.....
@FarmerJayhawk Awe yeah somehow I forgot that already regarding miller
The push is douchey but not that big a deal in the heat of the moment. He used his finger up and just pointed him back to the bench. It wasnāt some two handed shove where he leveled the dude.
@kuballin10 yeah the Miller thing alone is disqualifying for KU, we donāt need to scrape the barrel to find good coaches. To me thatās just one boundary you do not cross as a coach. Itās taboo for good reason
And for clarity Iām not saying Oats is a bad coach or whatever, the dude can coach his ass off and Iām generally a fan of what they do, though Iād emphasize defense more. Theyāre so high variance now that they can beat or lose to anyone, Iād rather be more consistent. Play better defense, get more good looks vs chasing 3ās. Nobody with a defense as bad as theirs has sniffed a title in the KenPom era. Itās abundantly clear you have to do both at a high level to win 6 in a row
@COHawk said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 I think there were games earlier in the season where we were fluid and really got up and down the court. Something caused a loss of confidence especially on the road. Were we soft? Probably. Were we a cohesive unit? For the most part no, and I go back to earlier when I said that is probably due to having only a few players who have been in Coach Self's system for 2 or more years. I would think that picking players from the portal has made it more difficult than ever to put together the right pieces.
maybe , and yet herre we see Alabama in the final four, for the first time and they have many portal players. - They seem to have done just fine
@nuleafjhawk said in Other bball games:
@approxinfinity it's a good thing Alabama didn't win. There ain't enough Natty and Pabst Blue Ribbon for them people.....
hmmm seems like I heard Barkley say that lmao-- oh wait I did lol
@jayballer67 said in Other bball games:
@COHawk said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 I think there were games earlier in the season where we were fluid and really got up and down the court. Something caused a loss of confidence especially on the road. Were we soft? Probably. Were we a cohesive unit? For the most part no, and I go back to earlier when I said that is probably due to having only a few players who have been in Coach Self's system for 2 or more years. I would think that picking players from the portal has made it more difficult than ever to put together the right pieces.
maybe , and yet herre we see Alabama in the final four, for the first time and they have many portal players. - They seem to have done just fine
Alabama got hot at the right time and got the best possible draw for their team in that they didn't have a lot of strong defensive teams in their bracket, or slow paced teams. Alabama missed playing St. Mary's who was the slowest team in the country, and they avoided Baylor who also played very slow this season. They also avoided an Arizona team that could actually outrun Alabama.
Alabama entered the tournament with more losses than KU did and not really any expectations because they, like Kentucky, had been absolutely atrocious on defense all season ranking 351st in ppg allowed and were actually lower than Kentucky in Kenpom's defensive ratings.
Alabama's run this year is what people mean when they talk about teams having a good draw.
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@jayballer67 said in Other bball games:
@COHawk said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 I think there were games earlier in the season where we were fluid and really got up and down the court. Something caused a loss of confidence especially on the road. Were we soft? Probably. Were we a cohesive unit? For the most part no, and I go back to earlier when I said that is probably due to having only a few players who have been in Coach Self's system for 2 or more years. I would think that picking players from the portal has made it more difficult than ever to put together the right pieces.
maybe , and yet herre we see Alabama in the final four, for the first time and they have many portal players. - They seem to have done just fine
Alabama got hot at the right time and got the best possible draw for their team in that they didn't have a lot of strong defensive teams in their bracket, or slow paced teams. Alabama missed playing St. Mary's who was the slowest team in the country, and they avoided Baylor who also played very slow this season. They also avoided an Arizona team that could actually outrun Alabama.
Alabama entered the tournament with more losses than KU did and not really any expectations because they, like Kentucky, had been absolutely atrocious on defense all season ranking 351st in ppg allowed and were actually lower than Kentucky in Kenpom's defensive ratings.
Alabama's run this year is what people mean when they talk about teams having a good draw.
No I know exactly what I meant. I mean they have good motion fluid , they don't have a 7'1 sloth that clogs the middle and creates bad spacing with the players we had this year, I already know they had some luck- - -who doesn't at some point ?- -Just like we did in 88 when w had the luck multiple times when higher seeds got knocked off before we had to play them in our bracket?-- -
Alabama was also just so way much more athletic then us, Hunter was a huge defensive liability on the permiter , Alabama lot better rebounding , yes I know they were small -- just quicker to the ball, better quicker leapers, what's Dickinson's explosion 5 inches ? My God if he could jump worth a dam, the only reason he got half his rebounds was strictly height, not athletic ability, why was he so much better on defensive rebounds then offensive - -his offensive rebounding SUCKED
Thank GOD we didn't play Alabama cause they would of beat our ass and took names later - - much , much quicker, lot faster tempo and with our depth situation you talk about gassed - -Agai sure they had luck of draw- -boto line though Alabama this year was a better team then we were hands down. - -love their movement, fluid none of this clogging up the middle.
I have No problem , none what so ever with a big like Dickinson posting down low, bu my God have some athleticism -Dickinson is vre non athletic - -like I have said all year he is a bad fit for this team, we were alot more fluid before he was here quicker - he is just slow
@jayballer67 said in Other bball games:
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@jayballer67 said in Other bball games:
@COHawk said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 I think there were games earlier in the season where we were fluid and really got up and down the court. Something caused a loss of confidence especially on the road. Were we soft? Probably. Were we a cohesive unit? For the most part no, and I go back to earlier when I said that is probably due to having only a few players who have been in Coach Self's system for 2 or more years. I would think that picking players from the portal has made it more difficult than ever to put together the right pieces.
maybe , and yet herre we see Alabama in the final four, for the first time and they have many portal players. - They seem to have done just fine
Alabama got hot at the right time and got the best possible draw for their team in that they didn't have a lot of strong defensive teams in their bracket, or slow paced teams. Alabama missed playing St. Mary's who was the slowest team in the country, and they avoided Baylor who also played very slow this season. They also avoided an Arizona team that could actually outrun Alabama.
Alabama entered the tournament with more losses than KU did and not really any expectations because they, like Kentucky, had been absolutely atrocious on defense all season ranking 351st in ppg allowed and were actually lower than Kentucky in Kenpom's defensive ratings.
Alabama's run this year is what people mean when they talk about teams having a good draw.
No I know exactly what I meant. I mean they have good motion fluid , they don't have a 7'1 sloth that clogs the middle and creates bad spacing with the players we had this year, I already know they had some luck- - -who doesn't at some point ?- -Just like we did in 88 when w had the luck multiple times when higher seeds got knocked off before we had to play them in our bracket?-- -
Alabama was also just so way much more athletic then us, Hunter was a huge defensive liability on the permiter , Alabama lot better rebounding , yes I know they were small -- just quicker to the ball, better quicker leapers, what's Dickinson's explosion 5 inches ? My God if he could jump worth a dam, the only reason he got half his rebounds was strictly height, not athletic ability, why was he so much better on defensive rebounds then offensive - -his offensive rebounding SUCKED
Thank GOD we didn't play Alabama cause they would of beat our ass and took names later - - much , much quicker, lot faster tempo and with our depth situation you talk about gassed - -Agai sure they had luck of draw- -boto line though Alabama this year was a better team then we were hands down. - -love their movement, fluid none of this clogging up the middle.
I have No problem , none what so ever with a big like Dickinson posting down low, bu my God have some athleticism -Dickinson is vre non athletic - -like I have said all year he is a bad fit for this team, we were alot more fluid before he was here quicker - he is just slow
You believe whatever you want about Alabama to help you sleep at night. There's a reason why Alabama still lost more games than KU did this season.
@jayballer67 Yep! It seems as if a whole lot of other people had said it there would be national headlines.
Lets go Gamecocks!
@approxinfinity Boooooooooooooo!
Iowa rules!
@Texas-Hawk-10 a Final Four appearance takes some sting out of those losses
@nuleafjhawk tired of Clarks BS. Superstar foul treatment
I'm going with iowa
@approxinfinity yeah. And no other superstar players, men or women get preferential treatment
Whole teams get it, in fact.
@nuleafjhawk said in Other bball games:
@Texas-Hawk-10 a Final Four appearance takes some sting out of those losses
Doesn't change that Alabama was more lucky than good in the tournament and that it took until the Final Four for them to play a legit defense.
@Texas-Hawk-10 sure it does. Are you telling me you wouldn't be more proud of KU if - with the same crappy record - made it to the Final Four instead of going home on game two?
@nuleafjhawk others do too. I dont root for them either.
@approxinfinity I feel like you wouldn't be feeling like that about her if she went to school 5 hours southwest of Iowa City. All the calls would be legitimate and correct.
Ava Jones from Nickerson, right by hutch, a superstar, had signed w/Iowa when her family, minus her older bro were hit by a guy on drugs on the sidewalk. Her dad, a teacher, coach, super stud, played w/us in a tourney in Vegas was killed at the scene. Not before he shoved the young son out of the way. The mom and Ava were critical and both in comas for weeks. So many surgeries. Ava had a brain bleed, she did go back to school part time in a wheel chair. Kept having surgeries her mom too. They honored her schollie at Iowa. Don't think she'll ever play again. š one sad story! She did get to go to Iowa
@Crimsonorblue22 that's awful. Great of Iowa to honor her scholarship though.
They were in Louisville for a tourney, the driver thought he was turning onto a rd, it was the middle of the block.
@Crimsonorblue22 I can almost kinda understand that. I was recently in Louisville and the streets are laid out very strangely. Streets where you think there shouldn't be streets. Alleys that look like streets, streets that look like alleys. This is downtown Louisville btw. I'm in no way defending the driver, just saying it's not that fun of a place to drive.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Other bball games:
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@COHawk said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 I think there were games earlier in the season where we were fluid and really got up and down the court. Something caused a loss of confidence especially on the road. Were we soft? Probably. Were we a cohesive unit? For the most part no, and I go back to earlier when I said that is probably due to having only a few players who have been in Coach Self's system for 2 or more years. I would think that picking players from the portal has made it more difficult than ever to put together the right pieces.
maybe , and yet herre we see Alabama in the final four, for the first time and they have many portal players. - They seem to have done just fine
Alabama got hot at the right time and got the best possible draw for their team in that they didn't have a lot of strong defensive teams in their bracket, or slow paced teams. Alabama missed playing St. Mary's who was the slowest team in the country, and they avoided Baylor who also played very slow this season. They also avoided an Arizona team that could actually outrun Alabama.
Alabama entered the tournament with more losses than KU did and not really any expectations because they, like Kentucky, had been absolutely atrocious on defense all season ranking 351st in ppg allowed and were actually lower than Kentucky in Kenpom's defensive ratings.
Alabama's run this year is what people mean when they talk about teams having a good draw.
No I know exactly what I meant. I mean they have good motion fluid , they don't have a 7'1 sloth that clogs the middle and creates bad spacing with the players we had this year, I already know they had some luck- - -who doesn't at some point ?- -Just like we did in 88 when w had the luck multiple times when higher seeds got knocked off before we had to play them in our bracket?-- -
Alabama was also just so way much more athletic then us, Hunter was a huge defensive liability on the permiter , Alabama lot better rebounding , yes I know they were small -- just quicker to the ball, better quicker leapers, what's Dickinson's explosion 5 inches ? My God if he could jump worth a dam, the only reason he got half his rebounds was strictly height, not athletic ability, why was he so much better on defensive rebounds then offensive - -his offensive rebounding SUCKED
Thank GOD we didn't play Alabama cause they would of beat our ass and took names later - - much , much quicker, lot faster tempo and with our depth situation you talk about gassed - -Agai sure they had luck of draw- -boto line though Alabama this year was a better team then we were hands down. - -love their movement, fluid none of this clogging up the middle.
I have No problem , none what so ever with a big like Dickinson posting down low, bu my God have some athleticism -Dickinson is vre non athletic - -like I have said all year he is a bad fit for this team, we were alot more fluid before he was here quicker - he is just slow
You believe whatever you want about Alabama to help you sleep at night. There's a reason why Alabama still lost more games than KU did this season.
Thank you so much. I feel MUCH BETTER NOW since you have given me permission that I can believe what I want - -Yippee whew that's a relief.
And you stick to the story of oh WEll Alabama still had more losses then KU did for this Season roflmao - -are you fricken kidding me ? Dam and I had given you some credit during the year, well guess everyone can be wrong sometimes - - can I take it back lol.
Do you really think that KU players and Staff are sitting around and patting themselves on the back or one another's back and saying to others - -WELL Alabama STILL had more losses then us during the season - -do you realize how pathetic that sounds ? - -Holy shit. Ya that's the goal, man was I ever off on what a teams Seasons goal was at the beginning of the season , I sure thought it was every teams goal to win the NCAA tourney and get the trophy----my bad , - so glad you set me straight on that -got it now, it's NOT about winning the Tournament - - it about whether you end up WITH LESS LOSSES for the year then other teams- - makes perfect sense, how could I have ever not realized that - - Thank you soooooo much lmao
:face_with_rolling_eyes: can we move on from whatever this is?
My menās bracket sucked but just won my womenās bracket at the wifeās work place with over 200 entries. 3 of 4 final four right, championship game and champion picked right ranked in the 99.8% on espn. So many less upsets itās really much easier to pick.
@approxinfinity I feel like there's been lots of Natty and Pabst Blue Ribbon flowing
Ok. I won't use that anymore.
I'm at 99.2 percentile in one of the ESPN brackets & 97 percentile in another - -not winning squat - -help me though picking U Conn
@jayballer67 I'll pick them too. That way they'll lose!
Go Connies!
In Vegas for work so plopped down a crisp $20 on UConn money line and posted up in the book for awhile. BOILER UP
I may be wrong but I just feel U Conn is going to do it again--I just feel they better and actually looking at a 10 point win if not more.- - I just think with all the cuts they make, passing & movement, fluid they are just better. Could be wrong , should be interesting.
I dunno Edet has that look of a guy that says - - I am not messin around, like he is ready to kick butt and take names , I dunno I just think U Conn gonna take it right at him - -time will tell
Well , well , well good start both teams. what a match up 7'4 - -vs - 7'2
Edey is playing with fire.
Dam Edey is the MAN --dam, already 11 points - -couple of blocks, just muscling his way
Uconn learning about the Edey whistle. @Crimsonorblue22 why no love for Purdue?
@Crimsonorblue22 Same. On my hierarchy I have Purdue ahead of UConn. I donāt want UConn to have back to back. I donāt mind the players on UConn, but Hurley is insufferable.
Sorry to put you on the spot Crimson, I just have always thought Purdue does things right, their fans are decent, high academic standards, no shenanigans that I can remember.
Loves strong! I think we've beat Purdue a few times, anybody remember? I know they had a big guy I was afraid of and we did great. Hurley, ugh! Main reason.
Love watching well played ball. Mercy like they said , thee is a reason Edey is the player of the year. - Edey , not only tall but Big/very solid
Best I've seen Edey play.
That's why I don't like Hurley! Coach K!
Wow, an opposing coach goes out and confronts an opponent who's walking off the floor? Not many coaches can get away with that.
Edey looks good and already getting calls, I just turned it off. Edey travels often and constantly throws elbows with zero whistles. I honestly donāt care who wins. If Im Uconn, I let Edey work for his but make sure no one else gets anything.
@wissox said in Other bball games:
Sorry to put you on the spot Crimson, I just have always thought Purdue does things right, their fans are decent, high academic standards, no shenanigans that I can remember.
Glenn (Big Dog) Robinson and his 45 tournament points is reason enough for me.
Poor Hurley is crying on the sidelines.
Newton of UConn has defensive philosophy of hack, grab, pull & shove. 1 foul. š¢
Hurley lost it on the last Edey bucket.
Things starting to swing U Conn way just a little
@Gorilla72 That was what I meant when I said that above. He slapped the floor.
Purdue usually pretty good shooting 3's aren't they or am I thinking of someone else ? - -If it is Purdie, U Conn is taking the three away
HUGE THREE
Hurley is not wanting Purdue to catch fire on the 3. They hit one and he calls an immediate timeout.
Crazy how much better Purdues conditioning is than ours. Edey has sub out for a total of 33 seconds the last two games. Our guys are exhausted after 31 minutes.
I was really surprised with the conditioning of KU this year.
Don't know why the shot clock doesn't reset on a jump ball when the offensive team has the arrow.
Iām seeing moving screens by UConn. Sometimes a straight shove.
I am officially resigning my position as kubuckets prophecy dude.
A couple of weeks ago I proclaimed that, due to the portal and NIL, no team would ever win back to back championships again.
I am a dumbass.
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An observation:
Edey would steal Dickinsons Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles lunch box, eat his lunch, throw the lunch box into a mud puddle and stomp the mud puddle dry.
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Don't know why the shot clock doesn't reset on a jump ball when the offensive team has the arrow.
I would guess because they "retain" possession as if the tie up did not occur, and are not "awarded" possession as the defense is which is then a new possession?
Game getting won in the Backcourt.- - U Conn has edge of 29 - -12 - - Purdue has got to get their guards going , get involved---- - really need to get Jones going, of course he was in foul trouble early
Danger time for Purdue
Iām all in for the beer idea. KU fans too, should always have free šŗ.
I see that back to back coming.- - - -Kentucky going to throw the bank at Hurley is what's being said. - -I don't think he leaves U Con
@jayballer67 and UConnās three point line D has been awesome. They are guarding well out to the arc forcing Purdue to drive the ballā¦ā¦1 three tonight
@kuballin10 said in Other bball games:
@jayballer67 and UConnās three point line D has been awesome. They are guarding well out to the arc forcing Purdue to drive the ballā¦ā¦1 three tonight
ya , that's what I was saying earlier. I thought it was Purdue that was really good on their three point shooting, and U Conn has flat taken that away
Looks like going to turn out and be right. I said I thought U Conn would Probably win by 10 plus and looks like that is how it's going to turn out. Not that I necessarily wanted it to but---- U Conn is just really , really, good
@jayballer67 Itās 2024 modern basketball.
Guards are dominating just like you said. We wonāt have the best guards and wings next year hence my constant negativity this year and projecting for next
Bill getting passed by the game cause heās too stubborn to adjust
What he values in guards doesnāt translate to 6 titles in 25 yearsā¦.
@jayballer67 Purdue sucks honestly all Eden and nothing else. Their guards are slow and trash. Big 10 is a joke and elevated them higher than they are
@kuballin10 UConn only lost 3 games this year; who in the heck was able to beat them??
Am I the only one that heard Hurley drop hints in the post-game interview that he was leaving (going to Kentucky)?
Ummm⦠he pretty definitely did not do that. He was pretty clear of his intentions to stay at UCONN.
Ended up just like I said you keep Edey honest and make him earn his, donāt let anyone else beat you. Itās the same story as usual it takes elite guards and superior coaching every march. Edey is the best Big in the country by a wide margin, UConnās guards were light years better on both ends than Purdues.
Hats off to Hurley, like him or not, what he has done in past two years is simply outstanding.
He can recruit and coach at a very high level.
UConn is feast or Famine by all accounts. The last 25 years they have missed the tournament 9 times but have made 8 final fours and won 6 championships. I guess the question is would you rather have their resume or ours? Iād take theirs all day personally. We have 6 final fours and 2 titles in the same time frame in 9 more chances.
Guess I'd stick with ours. When is the last time KU had a losing record? How many times in the past 25 years have we lost 10 or more games? Three losing seasons in a row for them at one point.
Just crazy.
3 titles with 3 different coaches in the last 25 years. Luck or when the program is right, it really does pay off
@kjayhawks I'm going with ours, though the repeat is a strong weight toward UConn's - really want one of those baaaaaaad for Self and the Hawks. That said, I'm super proud of our conference streak. And, weirdly, a down coupla years adds pathos to the whole thing for me. I'm optimistic that the NIL era will settle into something that lets me keep on believin' we will eventually dominate. (I've never pretended to be a totally rational fan!!!)
@Jayblaze Winning the little 12 and flaming out in the tourney is worthless to me.
Itās titles or nothing. Beating 12 teams with the afh advantage isnāt that big of an accomplishment and shows based on our teams buckling in the tourney.
Give me uconn all day long itās all about titles not conference winning streaksā¦literally no fan, media or player outside of Kansas cares about that crap.
KU and Duke. Favorites to win it all next year. š š š let the unrealistic expectations begin.
@nuleafjhawk Right thatās my deal we have more first weekend exits than they do missed tournaments. To me when we lose in the first or second round, it really doesnāt feel like we were in the tournament to begin with. To me NCs are worth a lot. Now if they lost last night I would be on the fence and before last season Iād definitely take ours over theirs. Think about it they have more NCs the last 25 years and than KU, Kentucky, Dook and UCLA Combined!! After this season I think you have to start adding them to a blue blood conversation.
@kjayhawks right on all counts. I think they're probably being considered heavily in the blue blood conversations right now š¤
Instead of 3-4 B12 championships, I would rather win Natty and hang the banner in AFH.
Natty is the ultimate prize.
I love Self and will not trade him for anyone else.
At the same time, we all mistakes and Self has made a few.
I'd hope Self can reflect and look in the mirror and determine what needs to change for greater overall success.
Also, is he holding his assistants accountable? I am not sure? Maybe he is, maybe he is not.
@kuballin10 Certainly wasn't ignoring the fact that the game was played in AFH. Simply stating that KU had the ability to play at a championship level when you consider who all we beat this year. Something definitely was lacking when we went on the road.
In our world today, it seems too many people quickly jump on the bandwagon (whether it's positive or negative). Look at the Chiefs. Everyone bashing them until they finally figured out it was ok for the defense to be the leader. It would be interesting to go back and look at comments earlier in the season after the big wins.
@AsadZ I would think at this point he is reevaluating quite a bit. I definitely get ticked at Self from time to time, as you said and he has openly stated mistakes himself. I get frustrated when people on here act like heās perfect which no one is in any light. Bright side donāt believe any KU fans are sending death threats like the bluegrass goons. I really think changes to the staff especially conditioning practices are at the top of the list. I heard a couple of months ago Manning was coming back but the talk of it has quieted down. I think Vaughn and Manning need to come back with Vaughn being the coach in waiting probably wonāt ever happen.