@Crimsonorblue22 Now now...
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@BeddieKU23 Freeman and Lindsey each have a bucket.
@wissox said:
JJ is gonna play at the next level I'm predicting
So you think he can make it to the D-League?
So, Mitch has scored infinitely more points than LL this game so far....
They have 16! friggin' offensive boards - that's offensive...
So, about the sustaining thing.....
I stand twice corrected!
@HawkChamp said:
DUNK THE BALL COLEBY!!!
Actually not sure he can get up to the rim with the bum knee....
@Bwag said:
@approxinfinity said:
@DoubleDD You were right! Hot damn!
Gotta sustain.
There's the rub - can we do that??? Haven't until now - maybe this is the time...
@Crimsonorblue22 said:
Ksu lost
I know some of the early brackets still have the B12 with half a dozen teams, but it isn't inconceivable that we end up with only 3 - no one else is making much of a case other than KU, Baylor and WVU...
@joeloveshawks said:
Somehow still not worried. Scott Drew is still coaching a game in Lawrence.
So, he has gotten a lot of deserved criticism, so let's also give credit where it's due. He has no Mickey D's and he has the 2nd ranked team in the country. And, in contrast to a few years ago, it's not on the back of a lot of directional state schools. This is the most solid, balanced Baylor team I've seen.
We can come back and win this, but I like this Baylor team...
JJ basically has half our points, rebounds and blocks....We're gonna need the rest of the guys to contribute at least smidgen in the second half...
Well, 6 is better than 8...
@wissox It was really another LL missed lay-up....
@Bwag Oh well - go with the flow I guess...
@Bwag said:
Outside shooting has abandoned us.
Live and die by - we have no interior offensive presence unless JJ is posting up, and he can't do that against this team...
It looks like this thread is being abandoned....
@stoptheflop We have to be able to score some down low and keep their bigs engaged. LL has missed a couple of bunnies - he simply won't go up strong...
@stoptheflop said:
Is everyone at the game tonight. Only a few of us here
2 threads and about equal numbers on both - maybe a couple of more here...
@HawkChamp said:
@DCHawker if he is open, he needs to take it.
Agree - just don't want him to lose the aggressiveness in taking it to the hole and drawing fouls...
JJ has continued hitting from deep - huge bonus if he can keep that up...
This is definitely the most solid, balanced Baylor team we've seen....
@stoptheflop said:
@StLJhawk Coleby had a pretty ugly shot a few possessions ago.
So, he missed the rim by a foot - he's a little rusty....
@HawkChamp said:
Coleby with a weak O rebound, then a strong rebound at the other end. He's playing pretty well so far.
All we need is a few minutes from him where he doesn't hurt us - anything else is a plus. I think he's given us that and more the last couple of games...
Getting hurt on the offensive boards....
Coleby in early - nice position...
Nice block by JJ!
Both teams should be pleased with start other than a couple of bad TOs - should be fun...
@wissox said:
Seems like we've got two live threads going on.
I can multitask, but that's too much to deal with...
About to switch back to ESPN2...
Early foul on LL - Motley scores plus FT...
@wissox said:
Scrolling message says ESPN idiots won't put it on the ESPNews.
Can't - has the TCU - Kitty Cat game on there, which started at 730p(EST)....
@wissox said:
Yet ESPN will relegate the start of a game between 2 of the top 4 in the country to some app, or if we're lucky ESPNNews.
Come on - who wouldn't want to watch the finish of Syracuse and NC State....
Why does it seem that half the time KU is on the late game, the first one on ESPN goes to overtime.?????
The results this past week have certainly muddled the race for #1 seeds. By far the 2 most significant games in that regard were KU - UK and today's UVA - Villanova games, because those offered the last chance for (very) high quality non-conf wins.
The teams clearly in the driver's seat for #1 seeds right now are Gonzaga, Villanova and either KU or Baylor - maybe both. Notwithstanding the overall weakness of the WCC, unless Gonzaga loses at both BYU and SMU this week and again in their conference tourney, they are fairly well locked in - in large measure due to several good to very good non-conf wins, including Arizona and Florida. Villanova came pretty close to locking in a #1 with their come-back win today against UVA - absent a late season swoon in the Big East. The winner of the B12, whether us or Baylor, is fairly well locked into a #1 seed. And, if we split games and neither suffer bad losses, then the second place finisher could well get the fourth #1 seed. If we tie and don't sweep, then Baylor would probably have the leg up on us due to an overall stronger non-conf schedule.
Really, there are and will be no other teams that have a typical #1 resume. UNC already has 4 losses and it's only decent non-conf win was Wisconsin. Even if it runs the table, UK doesn't have much to hang it's hat on - only non-conf win of note was UNC, it has 2 homes losses and a bad conference loss already. It's very difficult to envision Arizona, Oregon, or UCLA passing Gonzaga for the west coast #1 - all will have more losses and neither Arizona nor Oregon have any non-conf wins of consequence. UCLA does have UK, but nothing else.
If they end up winning the ACC, Louisville might have a strong case, even with a fairly high number of losses - they have already beaten UK, Duke, Purdue, IU and WSU and have a chance for 3-4 more good conference wins. A surprisingly strong resume is actually Butler, with wins over Arizona, Cincinnati, IU, Utah and Villanova in conference.
Bottom line is if we take care of business, we will play in KC...
@wissox Good points all. With regard to #7, while you didn't name names, I'll fess up. In the Reality and Gut Check Time thread, I did note that we had at the time only beaten one team - Duke - that is certain to make the tournament. Wasn't "naysaying" - just saying. It was a factual observation. I did also note that we obviously would have a chance at UK and with remaining games with Baylor and WVU to change that. Now we have 2 wins against certain tournament teams - one in a true road game. It was a huge gut check game and the boys stepped up big time. Now, we still don't have as many high quality non-conf wins as some others (e.g., Louisville has also beaten UK and Duke, along with Purdue, IU and WSU), but if we play with poise and grit like we did the last 25+ minutes of last night's game, we'll be in good shape.
@drgnslayr said:
Yep... seems our poise kicked in and we executed better. I give a lot of credit to our poise. Just hanging in there and waiting for a break. And we got several of those. There are at least a half dozen calls that could have gone against us but didn't. We didn't get those calls in Morgantown.
Agreed on the calls - 15 on us and 17 on them - doesn't happen on the road that often - esp. at a venue like Rupp...
@HawkChamp said:
@drgnslayr I also think our defense was part of the reason. We forced Monk and Fox into some tough shots. I thought defensively the second half was very good
Interestingly, we gave up 9 more points in the second half than we did the first. But, we scored 52! points in the second half. We started to execute the offensive a lot better - made a handful of 3s (not many), but got some penetration and post scoring from LL and JJ. And, points off TOs.
@drgnslayr It's an easy conference that just won 5 games against the B12 - with 3 of their upper half not participating.... Not saying it's not a weak conference - just that the B12 is not quite as strong as the ratings suggest (a product of decent non-con scheduling and avoiding bad losses and not having any really bad teams...).
@drgnslayr said:
I feel sure the B12 will have far more than 3 teams in the dance. Our conference is rated too high to only send 3. If anything... some of these other teams will ride the coat tails of the B12 to get in.
Maybe so, but likely very low seeds. Everyone other than the top 3 already have at least 6 losses, so will probably be double digit losses or close thereto by the end of the year. And, KSU, ISU and TTU haven't beaten anyone. And, ISU has a couple of bad losses to Vandy and Iowa - both .500 teams. If they get in, it will be because it's a fairly weak bubble...
@Blown said:
Would not have won game without switching to zone --Bill Self
Agree and full props to HCBS, but wasn't that the obvious play - given depth and match-ups??? Several on the board have been saying for a while that given the lack of depth, we would need to mix in zone. And, other than Willis, UK doesn't have a consistent outside threat - Monk is streaky, but that's it....
@drgnslayr said:
It wasn't a good day for the Big 12 but at least we tied on our bad hair day!
I was starting to think we were going to go 3-7 today....
It was bad day for the B12 - some bad losses. It's possible that the B12 ends up with only 3 teams in. I know that some analysts have said 6-7, but if KU, Baylor, and WVU dominate, then that's a lot of losses for everyone else - and very few good wins. Especially true for ISU and KSU....
@kraken said:
I hope Zion Williamson enjoyed his visit at UK today and saw the difference in a team and a group of individual's
And, I hope Trae enjoyed his visit to Norman today to see the Sooners get ass whipped at home.....
@JayHawkFanToo No - TCU lost at home to Auburn
@globaljaybird said:
@HawkChamp Yeah but how about JJ the FRESHMAN wit da DOUBLE DOUBLE ??
I said at the outset that we needed 25 from JJ, but I'll take 20 and 10 and the key put back...