You do know that Obama has a terrible record when stomping for other Dems/libs.
Oh never mind keep drinking the kool-aide.
DoubleDD
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Lmao
Your wrong
millions die but liberals say not gencide ↗
You can call it whatever you want mayjay but millions died under the Jimmy administration. Explain that?
Actually I did. Twice in fact.
You're asking a question I can't answer. Is not life a journey filled with different paths to take? To take one path or the other doesn't guarantee a desired result.
I do know that under Jimmy Carters leadership. Russia was able to commit mass genocide and that China became Communist.
I only gave that link as I felt it's more suited to what you would read and respect.
I have so many more, but I wouldn't want to bore you with independent and conservative think tanks. As we both know you would dismiss them without giving them much thought.
Sadly a condition of the human mind and spirit is to fill it with what we already believe.
In theory these young players should have been playing from day one. Sadly the Royals needed to clean house, and the only way they could do that is by playing the players they needed to move.
In the animal Kingdom. It is not uncommon for animals to kill their offspring that are inferior. A natural selection if you will. The Strong must survive.
Yet we humans will kill our offspring before they are even born, or giving a chance to live. Somehow we feel superior to the beasts will call animals?
You once posted a topic on being labeled into certain groups. Yet you Practice what you don't preach. Abortion is a very explosive topic indeed. However it is not just a Christian thought, or religious one. Sure these groups fight for the rights of the unborn, but it is hardly just their issue.
Common sense and just human nature would say that as humans we must protect our unborn and just born, or we will cease to exist. Or worse yet we will become the very animals we say we are superior too.
Kcmatt7 said:
@DoubleDD @Woodrow So about conservatives being upset and Boycotting Nike now? Appears both sides are doing it...
I don't have a problem with any average citizen or fringe group boycotting whatever they see fit. Even though most of the time they are dumb. My problem is a political organization calling a boycott on a person or business because of political afflation.
In the case of In and Out. The head chairman of the DNC called for a boycott against In and Out because they made a donation to the Republican party. I find plenty wrong with that.
Plus I don't think it would be fair to blanket all the protesters as conservatives as the ones now boycotting Nike. I would assume there are plenty of Liberals that are not happy with Nike.
I'm no great business person, but sometimes the saying, "There is no such thing as bad press" rings true. You have to applaud Nike in this instance. They found the most Controversial sports figure they could find and made him the voice of their ad campaign.
LIke it or not it's a genius move. Especially in light of the FBI investigations in college basketball. They have in a essence grabbed control of the content of the Media headlines and public perception. Even if in the coming days a story breaks that Nike has crossed the line in dealing with college players. Nobody will care. As Kaepernick will be all the rage.
So I'm in a motel last weekend. A guy passing me in the hallway sees my KU hat. Then askes me, "are you a Jayhawks fan". I turned to him said, "yea, but I waiting for basketball season" . He damn near lost it. I thought he was going to fall over right there in the hallway he was laughing so hard.
Yea I would say its time for some big changes when it comes to KU football. It's pretty sad when some random person, and true College Football fan know of your school, because they suck so bad?
@approxinfinity love the point your trying to make. Not many people realize that a newly elected president often loses in the midterms of our two party system. Yet you posted something in the tune of religious nuts. (abortion)
If you don't mind I would like to guide you to a recent abortion poll of all Americans.
Americans speak out about abortions ↗
My friend it's not a Christian thing. Its a common sense thing.
Also with the China dominance. What would you do? I mean it's easy to play arm chair quarterback, but what would you do? Lets not forget China was a democracy at one time. Yet under Jimmy Carter a liberal he did nothing and watched them fall into Communism.
You play the Dem horn. Yet is it not true that most of the problems facing our nation today have not been created by the DNC. You said that The DNC is the party that really cares, Yet you also alluded to the DNC creating groups because of skin color?
I'm really confused here?
What gives?
@mayjay brought up unions.
No I don't agree with any standing president calling for a boycott.
Sadly an argument can be made he's not calling for a boycott on the NFL for political reasons. Wrong or right on the surface it appears to be for nationalism. Not to punish someone that supports an opposing party. Still as president he/she should stay out of such issues. In my humble opinion.
Disrespecting the flag is really never a good action to take, when trying to create support or draw attention to your cause. No matter what the cause is. Unfortunately perception seems to carry more weight than intention. No matter how pure they may be.
Hope that answers your question?
Really?
Look I understand Trump rubs some people the wrong way. Totally get it. He can be a hard person to like, or even support.
Yet I don't remember Trump blaming any American citizens for the problems of America. Rich or Poor. In fact he has pointed his ire at our government it's self.
It's funny when it's quite obvious. He is loathed by both parties of our two party system. Yes even the RNC doesn't like the guy.
Just saying....
Though I like the point you're trying to drive. However the DNC boycotting a business just because they might have a different political view, is quite different than the RNC trying to break the strangle hold the Union shops have on the people they represent.
In and Out is a food chain. One can chose not to eat there for whatever reason they chose. Just as one can chose to eat there if they wish for the opposite reasons. Its a free enterprise to sink or swim at it's own peril. However a political party such the DNC calling for a boycott just because a business donated money to an opposing party disrupts the free market system, and stacks the deck in their favor in power and control over local assemblies.
I am a union worker, and quite proud of it in fact. Just the history of the selfless acts of a few individuals to fight back against pure greed and power to form the Union concept is indeed a story of great sacrifice and heroism. However as a Union worker I have no choice.
Unlike the average citizen that gets to choose on whether they want to spend their hard earned cash at IN and Out. I have no choice in were my union dues are spent. The power of choice is stripped from me as a worker/member that supports the very Union that takes my dues. In a sense I'm being forced to support certain candidates even if my views run contrary to their agenda.
This is hardly the same.
I quick study of history and just some plain old common sense would tell you nothing just happens over night. As the saying goes Rome wasn't built in a day and neither was the Nazi empire.
However I think your comparison to Hitler and the Nazi party is spot on. Just for different reasons. Without wasting the day away by examining the rise of the Hitler and the Nazi party to power. I'll just get to the basics.
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One of Hitler's key aspects was his ability to feed into the misery of the German people. As the citizens of Germany, lets just say they were having a tough go at it.
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Yet instead of trying to build Germany up, he wanted to consolidate his power. So he resorted to the blame game. He blamed the rich (jews) for the woes of the German people and attacked other political parties. Its all there in the history books. Try picking one up?
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Yes he indeed attacked and boycotted business that didn't agree with his political agenda. Yet he didn't stop there. He even began to attack the German citizens themselves. Even those that had support for him in the beginning.
Any of this sound or look familiar to you?
You see the problem isn't the people boycotting on this issue or that one. The problem is a political party calling for boycotts against people and business that disagree with their political agenda.
I think your point is too true. It would be nice and less mudding of the waters if companies/corporations would stay out of political issues and just let the people decide. Yet it benefits these entities to make these donations and in some cases can be damaging if they don't. Lets not forget Lobbying is big business in our US Government.
The reason I didn't have a problem with the boycotts you mentioned is for a couple reasons.
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It's was not endorsed or pushed by said party, the RNC
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There were conservative leading voices that actually spoke out against such a boycott. Calling the boycotts for what they were, "stupid".
I have yet to hear the liberal voices coming out condemning such said boycott. In fact the consensus from the left seems to be by all means.
Not you mayjay but in general.
If you're ok with a political party punishing a company/business because they a made a political contribution to the opposing party? Then how far down the rabbit hole are you willing to go to push your political agenda?
Would you be ok attacking and punishing average citizens that don't agree with your political views? So if it's ok to punish a company because they have a different political view, then would it be ok to punish a average citizen that has a different political view? Do not companies and business owners have the same rights as average citizens? Are they not both not protected under the law?
Some of the thoughts here are mind boggling. And I'm the one being disingenuous?
It is true that the Constitution does indeed protect the rights of Citizens to boycott as they see fit. However the DNC is a political organization. Which it's sole purpose is to govern "all people" the Constitution is supposed to protect. Even those that don't agree with their agenda. A political organization like the DNC calling for a boycott of an establishment/business on the grounds that they made a political donation to an opposing party is very troubling. This action lays the ground work for Fascism indeed. A simple look at any Dictionary will only confirm my theory. Lets not forget this so called boycott isn't coming from average citizens. It's coming from a political party that holds a plethora of government positions and offices through out the country. It's demanding a boycott against a business on the grounds it made a donation to an opposing political party.
The real issue isn't the act of the Boycott itself, as the Constitution protects and gives rights to stage a boycott. It's the being that has called for the boycott, the Chairman of the DNC. And the reason for the boycott, that In and Out made a donation to an opposing party. This very act runs counter to the very reason the First Amendment was in the Constitution to begin with. To protect and give rights to the average citizens to have their own voice and thoughts on all issues. Even political points of view. It was never intended to be a tool used by a political party to punish a person/business that has different views than said party. Which in this case is the DNC.
In the end I think this boycott will fail. As In and Out is loved and enjoyed by almost everyone that darkens their doors. Its business model is admired and respected through out our great Country. Maybe even the world? Yea it doesn't excuse the DNC and it's actions to punish a business on the grounds, that it has differing political views.
Just because we have the freedom to say and boycott what we wish, doesn't mean we always have the right. There're certain terms and aspects of our speech that should never be spoken or practiced as they are rude and disrespectful. Nobody is calling for a ban on boycotts especial not I. However If you can't see a issue with the DNC a political party calling for a boycott on In and Out because it made a political contribution to the RNC? Then you most be a liberal?
You know It's funny but sad at the sametime. That a party and a faction of our society gets to claim they are for freedom and all that goes with it.
Yet disagree with them and they boycott, and do anything to impede the freedom of your speech and thought. Should a business be punished by a political party becuase they made a donation to another party? Is this not hyprocisy at its best? Is this not the beginnings of fascism? It would be one thing if a average citizen chose not attend a certian establishment becuase of their political beliefs. Yet why does a political party get to declare war on the same said establishment?
Is there not any government law agianst such actions? Is there not a ethics code violation for such behavior? The forefathers went to great links to serparate the Church/reglious beliefs from the state/government. For fear that one group or Section of society would force their beliefs on the masses through political process. Should it not be the same for policial parties using their power to infringe on said citizens/businesses to spread their politcal agenda?
Crazy thing is? In and Out is everything the DNC claims they want out of a business. It's family owned, it pays decent wages to its employees, and genuinely cares about the people that work for them. Yet now they are the enemy and must be punished because they made a small donation to the opposing party.
Where did this entitlement come from? This thought that the DNC is beyond reproach. That if you don't like someone or dont' want them to share their message you can bully them into submission?
Go figure?
I know these Types of articles are a Dime a dozen. The common thought being it doesn't effect me. Thing is they are growing in numbers. Ten years ago who thought we the consumers will check and bag our on products at our local Food markets and department stores? Crazy!
I guess the days of using and abusing illegal immgrants for cheap labor are coming to a close. Someone send out the memo. Let them know the Strawberry Picking Robots are coming. They can go home now.
Well you found it girl. I'm going to be attacked for pointing out the truths. Yet I'm ok with it. I can take it, because I can take. In fact I welcome it.
You're no conservative. You just want to be in the crowd that is going to give the least amount of grief.
What do you have to say now?
Yea vote for that? Lmao. Then blame it on the next president.
Yea lets go back to the days of a healthcare plan that can't be paid for. When we load up money on pallets in the dead of night and send it to a country that hates us. And just sit back that allows Russia to claim whatever country belongs to them. OH lets not forget we sell a third of our uranium to Russia. Okkkkkay
Well if you didn't vote Trump then what are you waiting for? A president that is more Liberal/Dem? Lmao
Yea you did. Just admit it.
I knew it.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@DoubleDD you just said black guy, then said you conservatives called him American?
lmao
Yep I knew you were a lib/Dem. Lmao
OH and you voted for Obama you know you did. Didn't want to be called a racist if you didn't.
i'm still waiting?
You're so scared right now on how to respond? Why is it that? Because you have to research what the Dem/Lib party says is ok to say. lmao.
I guess
So you disagree with the black guy? Yea you Dems/libs call him a black guy, but us conservatives call him a American. Yet somehow we are the racist. Lmao
It's not about hating. I know he doesn't hate he's a great person, but he doesn't understand what is going in this world and neither do you. Conservatives are being attacked just because they disagree.
Told you I do my homework.
nah I did reread your post. The difference is one is getting called out, and the other never did? I mean check this out.
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no Mayjay bite me
mayjay said:
It would be safe to say, in view of the polls showing a large number of Republicans still believe that Obama is Kenyan and/or Muslim, that this belief has no evidentiary support and therefore might be motivated by racial animus. It would also be safe to say, based on other polls, that a large number of Democrats believe both Trump and many of his supporters to be racists.
Neither set of beliefs should be attributed to everyone in either group.
I'm sorry Obama voters didn't get called racists or get banned from public places or made fun of on every media outlet. You can bite me mayjay?
approxinfinity said:
@DoubleDD all you have to do is not watch that media :fox: :thumbsdown_tone3:
Sadly it's a deeper than that. People of my kind are getting barred from restaurants and being undressed.
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And she was the leader of the Lib/DNC movement. Tell me different? Was she not the elected leader of the Lib/DNC movement?
Don't worry I love crap out of you. You're a fair poster. No problems.
Um no you're wrong on that one. If he tried without any real evidence? OBG. He would ruin everything he's ever done.
He has no evidence and has no leg to stand on. He can't subpoena the president with evidence why he is issuing the subpoena. He's screwed if he tries to do it. You know it and so do I. Muller has nothing he's just trying to find something.
Just for the record I always do my homework before I vote. Don't care about parties. Could care less.
I'm done. @approxinfinity I love the hell out of yea. yet you play this game of where is the evidence? This movement of libs and the DNC calling persons racist that didn't vote for Obama was real? And now it's if you voted for Trump your a racist. These are real situations. Not made up. All you have to do is watch the media. I'll join in your cause but at least acknowledge what is the truth. Conservatives are being treated like the slaves of old. Just youtube Maxine Waters. It's crazy? I'm done. I more than happy to have a civil conversation about the trying times or our day. Yet if you can't at the very least acknowledge. the very basis and obvious truths. Then what is there to talk about?
approxinfinity said:
@DoubleDD https://civiqs.com/results/approve_president_trump?race=Black%20or%20African-American ↗
Sample size for Rasmussen was too small? That poll is the outlier, with all others showing much lower support.
Who called you a racist for 8 years for not voting for Obama? Relatives? Coworkers?
LIbs and DEms. Still are just watch any media outlet besides Fox news.
You want to know why I'm full on against Libs/DNC? For eight years I got called a racist because I didn't vote for Obama. There's your answer. Oh and it wasn't conservatives and Reps.
I guess I don't understand the point why I'm being forced fed this pic?
Man that must hurt?
Oh wait the Rasmussen is a fake polls? Lmao.
Nah just see a few misguided people that have been indoctrinated with media bias or the lack of.
I would vote for a hard leaning left Dem before I would want to live in Russia.
Yet it is typical lib/DNC politics. Take a few photos and paint everybody into a group. Then complain about being called a leftist. Right?
@approxinfinity to go to bed don't bother yourself with me. I'm just stirring the pot.
You do know how to tell when a Politician is lying? When their lips are moving. Lmao.