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HEM: Semi-Regular Observations • Aug 18, 2018 03:48 AM

@approxinfinity

I think your reaching a bit. Why should Trump talk to Mueller? Mueller has no reason or right to demand such a meeting. Trump hasn't done anything wrong. Mueller is just trying to find some wrong doing. Which I understand what your saying.

Yet it's common knowledge when a person is picked up by police not to say anything until a lawyer is present. Why is that? That is street cred, and basic survival in this world of litigation.

Look I get you loath Trump. Yet he would be stupid to engage in such a conversation. Especially when there is no reason for such a conversation.

Basic street knowledge.

HEM: Semi-Regular Observations • Aug 18, 2018 03:40 AM

@mayjay

Well you are a judge even though retired. I'll take your word for it.

HEM: Semi-Regular Observations • Aug 18, 2018 02:15 AM

approxinfinity said:

@DoubleDD

Article I charged that Clinton lied to the grand jury concerning:
- the nature and details of his relationship with Lewinsky
- prior false statements he made in the Jones deposition
- prior false statements he allowed his lawyer to make characterizing Lewinsky's affidavit
- his attempts to tamper with witnesses

Article III charged Clinton with attempting to obstruct justice in the Jones case by:[22]
- encouraging Lewinsky to file a false affidavit
- encouraging Lewinsky to give false testimony if and when she was called to testify
- concealing gifts he had given to Lewinsky that had been subpoenaed
- attempting to secure a job for Lewinsky to influence her testimony
- permitting his lawyer to make false statements characterizing Lewinsky's affidavit
- attempting to tamper with the possible testimony of his secretary Betty Curie
- making false and misleading statements to potential grand jury witnesses

(other articles were dropped)

Come on he lied about having sexual relationships with an intern in the White House. Even if he didn't lie he still had a sexual relationship with an intern in the White House.

And for the record I liked Old Bill. Still do. Even though some stories have come out that he has been a bit too aggressive with the opposite sex.

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HEM: Semi-Regular Observations • Aug 18, 2018 01:12 AM

When has the last time you heard of Impeachment when the president hasn't done anything?

The Emolument Clause maybe be the standard but it's not the law. There is no law that says a person has to show their tax returns to serve in the government.

HEM: Semi-Regular Observations • Aug 18, 2018 12:58 AM

Kcmatt7 said:

@DoubleDD sources? Stats that can be checked? Where is your basis for that statement coming from?

This isn't what you're looking for but I though it was a decent read.

People dropping from the rolls ↗

HEM: Semi-Regular Observations • Aug 18, 2018 12:38 AM

@approxinfinity

I think you have me mistaken. I don't really care about a politician releasing his birth certificate or tax returns. There is no law that says they must. Plus I'm pretty sure the FBI and IRS do a fine job of vetting persons running the for office.

I'm also not comparing the two. I'm just pointing a person can save themselves a lot of trouble by just showing the people what they want to know.

HEM: Semi-Regular Observations • Aug 17, 2018 07:50 PM

@Kcmatt7

Its a valid point you make. Yet I would counter if we didn't make it so easy for persons to stay home smoke dope and play video games all day with all our social programs. They'd have to get a job. Hence no more man power shortage.

HEM: Semi-Regular Observations • Aug 17, 2018 07:36 PM

approxinfinity said:

@DoubleDD Obama released 11 years of tax returns as a presidential candidate. You're comparing horseshoes and hand grenades.

Actually I think if you go back read what I was saying it was quite comparable. Both withheld a private document that so many wanted to see.

Obama relented finally and revealed his birth certificate. The issue went away. Where as Trump still hasn't and the issue still persists.

HEM: Semi-Regular Observations • Aug 17, 2018 06:48 PM

@justanotherfan

Yea I was never big on the whole Birth certificate issue as some where. Yet just as in the case of Trump not showing his tax returns. Obama could've brought that issue to a close quite quickly just by showing his birth certificate so much sooner than he did. Once Obama revealed his birth certificate the issue was dead. A lesson Trump it seems hasn't learned yet.

Sometimes people create unnecessary turmoil. Even if the unfounded claims are indeed based in craziness.

As for the claim of the this mythical movement not to elect Obama as president because he was black? I do believe is unfounded. Sure there were people that didn't vote for Obama because he was black. Just like there were people that voted for him because he was black. Just as there are persons of color that won't vote for a person that is white, women that don't vote men, and vice versa. There will always be these types of persons on the fringes, but hardly main stream. Let alone big enough to sway an election. After all Obama was elected president, and twice at that.

I think? Just an opinion? You had a few isolated incidents of racist persons getting way too much attention by certain media outlets. Thereby creating this hysteria that the KKK is back large and in charge, and that all right leaning white people are racist. When in fact it was just a few misguided individuals, that have some serious social issues. Yet you still see and hear some of this after math on a lot of talking points and media outlets. The theme being now, if a person voted for Trump they are some how racist? Seems a bit unfair.

Just me again, but I think that maybe we as a society are jumping the gun with some of the claims that are being thrown around in this hostile political environment we find ourselves today. To be labeled a racist is quite serious. Case in point? People are losing jobs and being barred from social gatherings all because they voted for Trump..... Doesn't seem like a fair and free society to me? Again I concur they are isolated situations carried out by misguided persons. Yet there seems not to be much pup on this issue from the media. Which only leaves some Americans to believe that the media is indeed bias.

The real question we should be asking? Why did middle America and the Rust Belt abandon the DNC party this last election? That's the question the DNC should be asking it's self. And claiming it was racism, isn't a legit and just answer.

HEM: Semi-Regular Observations • Aug 17, 2018 02:34 PM

You keep saying inciting hate and violence. Well for 8 years I got called a racist because I didn't vote for and didn't agree with everything the previous president wanted to do. Where was everybody then? Nobody seemed to have a problem calling, and grouping people into a so called racist group just because they disagreed. Where was the justice warriors? No not a peep from Libs and the DNC. You know those fair minded people that just want to sit down and compromise?

Then people wonder why the love for Trump? Really?

HEM: Semi-Regular Observations • Aug 17, 2018 02:17 PM

If we lock down the borders and send all the illegals home? Who will pick the strawberries, mow the lawns, clean the houses of our wealthy? I mean they do the jobs Americans don't want to do.

LMAO

I wonder why Americans don't want to work those jobs? UM could it be because they don't pay enough? The problem with letting anybody and everybody with a sob story come in (which by the way is everybody). You flood the market with unskilled and uneducated labor. Driving down the cost for unskilled and uneducated labor. As Illegals will work for dirt cheap. Even the Black communities are suffering from undocumented and illegal immigration. As they are being undercut by the plethora of cheap labor that our current immigration approach seems to be.

Please stop with the you don't care dribble? Everybody cares.

Everything is cause and effect. Sadly I'm finding out Libs/DNC never think about the effects just the cause.

Yet next week the topic will be hourly wages aren't nearly high enough under the Trump economy. He should be impeached?

Tell you what. When the powers to be give up their gated communities, security guards, and body guards. I'll think about giving up my guns.

Thought about it Nope.

@Kcmatt7

Yet the truth is where states that have less guns laws have less crime. Where states that have strict gun laws have the most crime.

Not opinion just facts. Yet the Liberal/DNC wants to lead us down this path to some European wonderland.

You'll have to excuse me If this Cold Blooded American will pass.

@approxinfinity

that road goes both ways. Just because you lean right doesn't mean your a racist.

Something to think about. Again the DNC and Liberals started the labels and political correctness.

HEM: Semi-Regular Observations • Aug 10, 2018 10:55 PM

@approxinfinity

Well to be fair what choice does one have? Sure it would be nice to watch a perceived news outlet and get both sides of the story. However this is no longer the case. I myself bounce around.

Almost all news is biased in way or another. So goes the argument. The concept of a pure journalist is dead. Almost all have an agenda and a political view to push. And all have a boss that signs the checks.

I'm not sure where I heard or read it. Yet the saying goes, "he who controls the media, controls the minds of the masses". This is all too true in today's climate. The days of good honest debate and comprise are dead. Look no further than the Russian Collison, and Trump? You have CNBC's top news star pushing the narrative that Trump is a Soviet spy. And you expect a Conservative or a regular joe to watch that and say yea that's good fair and balanced reporting? Especially when you have no true evidence to back such claims.

I don't think so. I said to you once before that the DNC and Liberals created Trump? Well the DNC and liberals created Fox news. If one can't understand/see the control the DNC and Liberals have over the Media platforms, then they will never understand why Fox is the #1 news media platform in America, and Conservatives talk shows dominant Am Dial/radio.

Some people just refuse to be brain washed.

HEM: Semi-Regular Observations • Aug 10, 2018 03:02 PM

@approxinfinity

I see your point, but I think we are comparing apples to oranges here. Not sure how we can make a connection with a box store to a mega social media outlet. As one sells products and the other a platform to express and share. Also not sure Conservatives as a whole really care about the fate of Alex Jones. Just not really seeing a big outbreak on the issue.

It is a tough topic to debate from any point of view. As there has to be some kind of oversight on these social media sights. I think we all would agree?

Sadly I have no answers to solve the issue. The problem as I see it, isn't Capitalism. I'm on aboard with you, on letting companies rise and fall as they may. As long as freedom is maintained the market will create what is needed. Look at Fox News it was created to fill a void of non Conservative view points. Now it's the Number 1 News channel in the country, even besting the world wide giant CNN. Free market is a good thing. People will in the end decide for themselves if they are allowed freedom, and Companies will rise and fall because of those choices.

This isn't the problem. It's the Government and a certain political party pushing to suppress that very freedom, and trying to seize control of the platform, thereby dictating the what can be expressed and what can't. Scary indeed.

HEM: Semi-Regular Observations • Aug 10, 2018 04:30 AM

I think there is this thought that somehow American laws and rights transcend our borders and is the law of all nations. The thought being is a non citizen has the same rights as an American and Americans would be treated as non citizens??? Thereby creating this mass hysteria that anybody that is off kilter most be silenced and their platform taking away. Hence Adam Jones is compared to terrorist, even though he has never preached violence. . Which in theory would be the right and just thing to do. However as we are seeing in America's two party system. Their is a big push by the DNC and liberals to shut up opposing views, without even having a debate. So it raises a big question and extreme problems. What if someone is silenced merely because they have a differing view? That doesn't fit Liberal and DNC agenda. Will they be silenced too?

There was a NBA basketball player that stated he believed the world was flat. Yet his platform wasn't taking away. He wasn't kicked off Facebook, Google, Apple, and so on. Even though he was clearly using the media platform and his status in the NBA to preach his beliefs. So why the different punishment. Because one is preaching a political view and the other isn't. So if one toes that DNC line they can say and belief whatever they want. Cross that DNC line and you will be silenced. Not sure that is freedom of speech?

It's been my experience that when a person/group resorts to name calling. Any chance of comprise or a healthy debate is lost, and is replaced with harsh feelings. Just a thought.

HEM: Semi-Regular Observations • Aug 04, 2018 02:18 AM

@mayjay

That is a great story made me laugh. I'm ok but man some Iowans got hit hard my friend.

HEM: Semi-Regular Observations • Aug 03, 2018 10:02 PM

@Crimsonorblue22

Yea I do. It was bad stuff. Marshalltown was hit really hard.

HEM: Semi-Regular Observations • Aug 01, 2018 05:44 PM

Is it me or is it getting hot in here? LOL

@approxinfinity

Can't say I agree with you, but at least your being honest.

I think there is a whole lot of corruption going on to just pin point one issue/party/person.

Would you care to debate why you think Trump is tainted goods? or should we move on?

approxinfinity said:

@bskeet hypocrisy is a term that I think gets overused. You can't say "we did x to group A so 20 years later x happening to us as perpetrated by group B is somehow more ok and if we object we are hypocrites." Every situation should be evaluated on it's own merits and context ideally.

We do not need to try to find an equilibrium of the opinions being offered by elected officials. If you want to find balance find center. True center, and stick to it. Not new center. Not somewhere where Russian meddling and Trump denial is in any way acceptable.

I totally disagree with this statement. So what are you really saying? That the party of slavery can erase their past by becoming the champion of the same people they used suppress. Ok maybe?

Yet how can a party do one thing, then yet demand something different from the opposing party. Is this not a double standard? Was it not to long ago that President Obama spoke and said that election meddling could not effect the outcome of an USA election? Which one is it. Why stand on one set of values yet change them when the opposing party is in power. Would this even be an issue if Hillary had won?

One doesn't get to do what they want when their party is in power, and then flip a switch an then expect the opposing party to be judged on a different standard. Denying what the previous party did, said, and believed. That's not democracy and that surely isn't fair.

At the end of the day we are judged by our actions, and it appears to me at this point the DNC has a whole lot of explaining to do for the American people. The DNC rigged their own election process screwing over Bernie. The DNC has missing emails, smashed cell phones, and missing servers. Don't think the American people know this? Yet we are just to roll over and believe everything the DNC says and does as an act of truth?

The DNC lost this last election just as much as Trump won it.

@mayjay

Well no ones perfect. LOL

Yet I do find it quite funny, that the heads of the DNC explodes every time he does something he said he was going to do.

On a more serious thought. I often wandered about the disclosure of tax returns. I get that is a time honored practice. Yet what does it really show? My thought is obviously there is no foul play. If there was wouldn't the IRS have full knowledge of it, and disclose/take action? So I guess I don't really see the point. What to look at some ones private info? Or to see how more money that person makes than I?

What is the voter really going to do? Oh their super rich can't vote for them. Nope I can only vote for a poor person? Doesn't really make sense to me. Other than it's a time honored practice. Also has the disclosure of tax returns ever swing an election to one side the other? I guess I never found any such evidence in my research/readings.

I guess one can raise the issue of them not paying enough taxes. Yet doesn't everybody try to find all the tax breaks they can find? Has there ever been an American that said no I don't pay enough in taxes here's more?

Just a few musings of mine.

approxinfinity said:

@DoubleDD It's astonishing and deeply depressed that Americans can be programmed to sympathize with Vladimir Putin over the law enforcement of their own country and yet here we are. It is a blue print for future abuse.

What American sympathizes with Putin? What Trump voters? Wow.

No what is astonishing is that the DNC and it's followers can paint such a false perception without any true evidence or facts, all the while ignoring what was clearly an abuse of power of one of their own.

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. I guess?

@Crimsonorblue22

Oh you didn't know I got a tax break. Heck yea. Go Trump. So the Check is in the mail. LMAO

@approxinfinity

I'm sorry but yes Hillary is apart of this. It was her unprotected server that started this a fact you continue to gloss over.

None of this happens if Hillary follows proper procedures. It's kind of like pulling up in the ghetto and leaving your car running and the wallet in the console. If your stuff gets stolen whose fault is it really?

You do know it's apart of Russia's constitution not to hand over born citizens to foreign nations? Do you really expect Russia/Putin to hand over Russian hackers to the USA? No you don't. So why get all bent out of shape?

This is all laughable.

Not to change the subject, but did you catch Obama's recent speech on Strong arm government. Not to say I agree but the man can give a good speech.

Well I believe it!!! what does that say? lol

@approxinfinity

As for Trump siding with Putin.

What is the answer? Are you suggesting a war with Russia? Ok count me in. Not a big fan of Russia, never have been. Their history if full of travesty, and abusers of human life. Even as far back when the DNC was calling Stalin old uncle Joe. A killer that was even worse than Hitler. Yet you won't find that in the history books. LOL

Funny how time changes things. Just with the last president our country under the DNC leadership was bending over backwards to make friends with Russia and Putin. We had the reset button, had our DNC sitting president caught on tape telling a Russian Surrogate to tell Putin he can be more flexible in his second term. Also lets not forget it was under this DNC leadership that we sold Russia businesses a 3rd or our Uranium. Yet today this same DNC wants nothing to do with Russia or Putin.

Man how things do change indeed. LOL

@approxinfinity

As far as I know from watching the main media outlets. Trump did bring up/ask Putin about the meddling of US elections? In fact if i'm not mistaken Putin has agreed to investigate the 12 accused Russians. In his own way and on his own terms, with US oversight. I know funny stuff. I agree.

I think/feel the blow back is how trump has responded to the aftermath. Even fanning the fames in fellow Republicans. Almost comical to see the Reps and Dems finally agree on something. Don't your think? smile.

I guess in retrospect I am accusing the FBI upper brass of playing politics. To be fair I'm basing this off what I see, and not so much off what this or that Media person is saying. It just seems quite obvious to me. That some foul play has or is taking place.

How is that Hillary walks free when there is mountain of evidence that she willfully broke the law? If you or I would have done what she had. We would already be in jail. Yet this same FBI that gave Hillary a free pass. Is willing to throw Trump under the bus without any real evidence. Sure the FBI has found a few infractions against the Trump team (none for Russian Collusion). However lets turn the FBI loose on your life or anybody for a year and half? Pretty sure they'll find something. Nobody is without fault.

Look some people may not like Trump, but it's a dangerous game when we as a nation subvert a sitting president because we don't like him/her, or their policies. A very dangerous game indeed.

Crimsonorblue22 said:

@DoubleDD you are right, he's not like any other president.

Yea I know. He actually does what he says he'd going to do. Isn't it refreshing? LOL

Ok guys I'll play the devil's advocate in this thread. More than happy to give all of us some thing to do until basketball season kicks in. Yet first sign of hurt feelings I'm bailing.

For the record: Yes I do lean Conservative, however I'm no Right leaner that just punches the ticket Red. I tend to mistrust all government and politicians to some degree or another. Also feel the DNC needs a big overhaul of it's leadership. Nancy, Chuck and the gang just aren't cutting it anymore. One last thing. CNN is fake news. LOL

@approxinfinity

Why do you feel this a RNC and DNC issue?

See this why I get befuddled with some of the thought processes of left leaning thinkers. They hate Trump and then blame Russians for Hillary losing the election. Yet they push a narrative of Trump guilt with no evidence and before the investigation is even over. Seems a bit unfair to me.

Why do they push this narrative, because the DNC didn't follow proper protocol in protecting their servers, and got hacked by anybody and everybody that had a computer. Again that doesn't seem quite fair.

I also don't understand why the Trump hate, as if he cheated or something? You know the reality is if the DNC wouldn't have rigged their own elections. Trump wouldn't be President right now. Old Bernie was a juggernaut that had captured the youth devotion in the same vein as Obama did. I would gather Bernie would've mopped the floor with Trump. Alas it was not to be.

I don't mean to be rude or mean, but if your a left leaning thinker, stop with this corruption stuff. Or at the very least clean your own house before you lecture the rest of us that don't lean left.

The DNC is the reason Trump is president. Keep it up and he'll get elected for a second term.

@bskeet

It appears I've highjacked the topic. My bad.

To be honest I'm not so sure I trust the FBI right now, or should I say the ones in positions of power.

How Peter Strzok still has a job is a bit mind boggling to me. After watching his testimony how anybody doesn't think he didn't allow his political views to affect his investigation of Hillary and Russian Collusion is beyond on me.

I also find it very interesting that Muller's release of the indictment of the 12 Russians takes places right after Strzok's failed testimony.

For the record I think the FBI is a fine secret service agency. Yet I'm not naïve enough to think that it is beyond reproach.

@justanotherfan

I kind of believe there is more than one way to skin a cat. Sure you may be correct in the points you have made. Yet is that the only way?

Trump isn't like any president we have ever had. Whether one views that as good or bad is a matter of perception. At the end of the day he's going to do what has made him successful. And if that means meeting one on one then so be it.

I know there is this thought you don't sit down with a rogue nation or leader as you legitimize them and what they are doing. Yet how is burying your head in the sand and act like it's not happening fix anything either. Lines of communication should always be open. Just as when Obama went to Cuba.

Me personally I'm not sure why we have to have the media privy to every minor detail. This isn't some reality show. The future of our children and nations depend on meetings like this. The media in my opinion isn't some outlet to be trusted with producing clear facts of a situation, summit, or meeting. As I think it is quite clear they are indeed pushing and agenda.

Having rambled on like a mad man. I do see your point and wouldn't disagree.

approxinfinity said:

@DoubleDD You're promoting a false dichotomy.

Did the DNC screw up by having lax cyber security? Yes. Does this mean that it's acceptable to hack their servers? No. Is this the same issue as President Trump's handling of NATO? No. It would even be a false dichotomy if we were discussing collusion, in that DNC stupidity doesn't justify collusion. But we aren't discussing that.

@justanotherfan is 100% on the money here. This is what we are discussing. No amount of pointing at the DNC or Hillary changes the fact that this is not how you conduct negotiations with Russia.

Yet there is no evidence of Collusion, and that is the point. Yet you accuse of me pushing a false dichotomy when actually it is you that is pushing such a narrative. This concept that Trump is guilty before proven innocent will never come to fruition. The perception is that he is guilty and that isn't going change even if he is proven innocent.

What's scary or what scares me is how one party the DNC can push such a false narrative and create this perception of guilty way before there is any evidence or a conclusion of an investigation. Just crazy.

Is it wrong to take something that doesn't belong to you. Sure I totally agree. Yet I'm not stupid enough to leave my front door open, then get all pissed and blame my neighbors. When somebody comes and helps their selves to my stuff.

Yes wrong is wrong, yet sometimes you get what you deserve. Right? Also if the DNC is so concerned over this hacking and stuff, then why not turn over the missing server? smile

approxinfinity said:

This President is either colluding with Russia or too stupid to realize that he shouldn't be meeting with Russia alone. I really don't see another way to interpret the fact that Trump wants to meet with Putin alone. This is not how you conduct diplomacy with Russia, just two dictators shootin' the breeze.

These guys are seriously passionate about national adoption policies, amirite?

I find the whole situation laughable. One if the DNC party would have followed proper procedure to protect their computers and servers. This whole Russian collusion wouldn't even be a so called issue.

Hanging and talking to Russia was just fine when Obama, Hillary and the gang were running the show. Hell they even agreed to sell the evil Russian empire uranium. Yet now, OMG don't let President Trump talk to Putin alone. Just Crazy. The Hypocrisy is off the charts.

Here is the thing. All countries are hacking each other, and trying to effect their elections. See Obama and the previous Israel elections.

Nobody screwed up but the DNC. They refused to use the proper Government protocol. Um Maybe they have something to hide???? Oh but we won't go there will we?

As for the investigation it's never going away. It will only end after Trump is dead and buried. Then it will come out that he was innocent. By then nobody will care, and nobody will step up to the mick and admit they were wrong. Ahh have to love political warfare.

approxinfinity said:

NATO was set up to defend the world against Russian aggression. Who needs that these days?

Why have alliances with European democracies, when you can align yourself with Asiatic dictators?

Why do we even need the FBI when we have a strong politically oriented DOJ?


This too shall pass.

No lets pays billions of American tax payers to protect Europe from Russia while they make energy deals with them. Filling up Russian coffers.

Makes sense to me. LOL

What happened to the Royals? • Jul 15, 2018 04:04 PM

Woodrow said:

It was in another thread but go back and look at their high draft picks the last 5 or so years. Just absolutely dreadful. When you are a small market team you have to hit on draft picks especially ones in the top 10. For all the praise Dayton gets his drafting has been sub par.

I'm not sure we can say one negative thing about Dayton. There was no hope before he arrived. Lets not forget the Glass family was running the Royals like they were a clearance aisle at Walmart until Dayton arrived.

Agree or disagree with Dayton's drafting. Half the MLB would line up to ink Dayton to their team if he were to come on the open market.

JayHawkFanToo said:

@stoptheflop

You do realize that without Perkins KU does not go to the Orange Bowl, right?

Perkins moved KU into the big time but there were things at the end, like how Mangino was fired, that left a bad taste. Perkin's tenure has to be looked at in its entirety and not just as one or two bad incidents.

Help me put my history in correct order
Wasn't Mangino put in place by BF? or am I mistaken. My mind is a little foggy. It's been so long since KU has even been decent at football.

THE SQUID FEELS THE HEAT • Jun 27, 2018 08:38 PM

To overwhelm an opponent with more talent is not really great coaching. You could say Cal is a great recruiter, yet with recent events it appears Big Shoe has a big influence on where the top talent goes.

What I find interesting was the topic was eerily similar to a lot of the conversations we have about Coach Self. Conclusion maybe we fans are just never satisfied?

If The Royals Sign Luke Heimlich • Jun 27, 2018 03:36 PM

Give it another 10 years. The way society is going. His transgressions will be the norm.

On the serious side. If a person does the time, then they should be giving a second chance. Sounds like to me. he went through all the proper steps to amend the crime and put his life on the right path. Who are we to deny him that chance?

Jesus forgives maybe we should too?

Five Big Questions • Jun 27, 2018 03:26 PM

Bottom line? If Coach is at the helm, then KU will be in the mix. Without much hoopla KU has gotten pretty good in the tourney in recent years, all the while without ever really catching fire. At some point odds would say KU and Coach will catch fire. Maybe this new group is the one? Maybe this is the year?

I'm more concerned about team chemistry. I have no doubt these young men can play. Coach wouldn't recruit them if they couldn't. Coach rarely makes a mistake in evaluating and recruiting players. The key as I see it. Is these new players finding themselves and roles in Coach's grand scheme.

No More Blocking Transfers • Jun 15, 2018 09:54 PM

DanR said:

HighEliteMajor said:

@DanR No, actually it is easy to argue about a kid who is told to move on. When Vick came to Kansas, what was the deal? Did he sign a four year guaranteed deal, or did he sign a deal that either party could terminate at will, with the only real condition if terminated that the player had to sit a year? It business, that's a non-compete.

Why is it that if Vick just decided to walk away, no one worries about the position that Vick puts Kansas in? He can leave at any time, and go anywhere he wants. Heck, he can leave midseason and leave the team hanging. Self can't cut his scholarship midseason. The only thing he can't do, in the entire world, is play D-1 basketball for a season.

Yes, those are the current rules, and that's what we're talking about here -- re-writing the rules. I agree that if a kid bails by choice (your second paragraph), he should have to sit a year. I think that's a good and fair rule.

But if a coach decides to force out a player, and the kid wants to stay, I would argue that it doesn't hurt the coach or school one bit if the kid plays for a different D1 school the next year. Discipline problems aside (breach of contract), if the kid is so talented he'll help the competition too much instead of sitting on your bench, maybe he shouldn't have been cut. Frankamp, for example. Did he leave us short handed? No. Obviously that situation wasn't working out. A clean break would be better for the coach and the kid, IMO.

Every kid "cut" by Self... I can't think of one he let go that ever came back to bite us in the ass. Don't want them, just let 'em play somewhere else. I think there should be an option where a coach can say, I've released him from the "non-compete." (That happens in the business world too.)

All I can do is clap you nailed it.

No More Blocking Transfers • Jun 15, 2018 08:59 PM

@HighEliteMajor

What is more unfair? Being really smart or being really athletic?

No More Blocking Transfers • Jun 14, 2018 05:57 PM

Really the big problem is the concept of a student athlete. Maybe there was a time that this antiquated thought worked, but in today's world what does it really serve? There are many arguments pro and con. Thing is most if not all are valid points. Yet at the end of the day what is the use of a student athlete? If we are truly a capitalist society? Then why begrudge a person from cashing in on their God giving abilities and hard work?

The issue of allowing or not allowing a so called student athlete, is merely one of perception. One view is grasping and hanging unto how things have always been done, or viewed. Regardless of how things and the times have changed. The other view wants to let go of the past thinking and how things were down.

Truthfully as with most things in life, the best answer most likely is so where in between.

More to the point Men's basketball and Football players make the universities some serious money, and give the school a lot of publicity. So to say letting these young men transfer at will because of the scholarships they receive is unfair to other low profile students? Is in mind like trying to compare apples to oranges. Are these young men no different than a student that wants to be a doctor, lawyer, or scientist? Do not these students pick schools that will have them achieve their goals? Well the difference for a student athlete, is a lot can change from the time they picked a school to grow their skill to the time they actually make to the said school and began to chase their dreams. A Preferred style of play can change. The preferred Coach or Coach's may have moved on for what every reason, Thereby changing the very dynamic's of why that student athlete chose that school in the first place. This very rarely happens to a normal student.

I say let them transfer at will.

Keegan Gushing Over McCormack • Jun 08, 2018 04:34 PM

Are there legit odds that DeSousa gets to play another year at KU? Or this wishful thinking?

Signs are everywhere. • Jun 05, 2018 02:03 PM

It's that time of the season ↗

As we ahead into the summer season, it's time for Americans all across this great country to clean out the house, garage, and attic. It's garage and Yard sale time.

We have all seen the signs. On light poles, telephone poles, and even some in there own bracket.

It was brought to my attention here where I live, that there are actually laws on how to display a Garage/Yard sale sign. What was even more shocking to me that the local government actually has persons on the payroll that go out and pull down signs that are illegally displayed. Think about that for a second. The local Government uses taxes paid from legal citizens to pay persons to tear down signs displayed by those that pay those taxes

I'm not sure where I'm going with this? Just thought it might be an intersting topic.

Mitch Bulking Up • Jun 05, 2018 01:49 PM

Let me ask you cats a question? Why are so many of you so quick to demand a Kid red shirt? I'm really confused here. I read posts after posts about how you hate the OAD. All that raw talent only to be gone after one year. Yet you're so quick to put a good talent on the bench for a year thinking they'll be great down the road. Yet when that next great talent comes down the road. Same kid you demanded redshirt for solid minutes later you demand should ride the pine.

Just curious?

  1. How many kids have redshirted under Coach

  2. How many stayed for their senior year, or 5 years

  3. How many kids redshirted only to ride the pine the next year?

You cats keep talking redshirt like its a great thing. When in fact your saying Love you Mitch your just not good enough to play at KU. Let's be honest.