Yea on political views I do have my opinion. However when it come to helping our fellow Americans. I don't care about politics views. There so many Americans that need our help.
Sorry I raised a red flag on an organization that is trying to make money off Americans suffering.
My bad.
Why do you think I need to post a long post about an argument to respond to you?
I don't care about politics on this issue. Just trying to point this organization isn't all that is up to what it claims. That's all.
Matter of fact Houston is a Dem city and I love them, and cry for their pain.
This organization is corrupt. Just pointing it out. So those like yourself that really care won't put your money in the wrong place.
LIke said I'm putting my money in the Red Cross.
NO I did not. I just pointed out an organization that isn't on the up and up. That's all.
Do want your money to support an agenda or to help people.
I for one don't think this organization represents any party.
You are the voice of reason. My bad. To bad some want to make everything into politics.
There is a limitation on funds being granted on who for what.
Hey donate to them. I'm not. I'll donate to Red Cross.
I just tried show a organization that isn't on the up and up.
It's all over the trustworthy news.
and I bet you wonder why the first lady wore high heels and then switched to tennis shoes?
Really? lets revisit this issue. When the money that was donated to this organization doesn't go the people yet to push an agenda.
Nah. Your nuts.
Besides after the waters reside and Houston rebuilds you won't care where the money went too.
Well if you're ok with donations from Americans to fund an agenda instead of people that really need it. Then that's on you not me. I didn't make nothing up. You can go to their website and see for yourself. It's in the fine print.
I want my donations to help Americans and not an agenda. I don't care about politics when it comes to this issue. Maybe you do?
Sadly when events like what is happen in Houston, brings out those that would use it to their benefit. Always read the fine print.
Just a shout out to all you KU brethren that do the dirty work on recruiting, and keeping us informed. It really is appreciated. I don't know how you guys do it. I just don't have the stomach for it.
Wow what a get. Could this be the beginning of something big?
There is no doubt that Fox News is right leaning. Yet in my experience when watching others there seems to be an agenda. Too many of the interviews are moved with trying to prove a point instead of just interviewing someone for their views, and letting the viewers decide for themselves. As I said Fox is right leaning. However they're not rude for the MOST PART to opposing views. Also they do make a point to bring in opposing views to their watching viewers.
I do try to watch all sides of the issues. Agree with me or disagree, yet I feel slighted when watching media outlets like CNN and MSNBC. I walk away too many times from their talking heads feeling like I'm not entitled to have an opinion. In fact when watching these outlets I feel that I'm labeled from a plethora of disgusting and backwards thinking groups. I'm labeled a racist, sexist, homophobe, neocon, nationalist, and so many others just because I might have a different point of view.
I'm not saying Fox news is perfect. Yet in my research they will at least allow you to have your voice. Maybe that's why they have been the #1 News outlet for like ever.
Man when it rains it pours.
That's how you see things? Well then get off the bus. Trust me no American league team wants to see the Royals in the Playoffs. Um yes they still have a chance. So get off the bus. I'm riding this one out. Geez two world series runs in 3 years and they have no chance? Are you fans or just politicians? Win or lose I'm there. oh and don't be trying to get back on the bus when the Royals get it going. You're off. Just kidding you can get back on, but come on? Try and show some support.
Some late money must of came in on Mayweather? I know I read a few articles that Vegas was a little nervous about the fight.
I'm not sure on the Mayweather not being allowed to bet on his own fight. From what I understand Vegas stood to lose the farm as so many bets were coming in on Conner to win.
Now there could be some kind of Fighting rule that Vegas has that a fighter isn't allowed to bet on their own fight.
Maybe it's called the Pete Rose Rule?
Just for the record love ya. Keep firing away.
LOL. Fair enough. Yet you claim give me unbiased reporting from unbiased sites. OK So what sites are these? Who are these unbiased journalists? You quote the New York Times, as I do also. Yet a strong case can be made the not only the New York Times and most newspapers are indeed left leaning. You're not giving me much room to operate with here. If I'm right that the Media is left leaning? What materials can I use?
If my claim that most media outlets are left leaning? How can I prove you're wrong? How can I make me case? Plus you said you don't watch Fox and other Major Media outlets? so how would you know?
When I was a kid. When I watched the news it was a given that it was a fact. You accepted it and moved on. That doesn't seem to be the case anymore. Why is that?
I agree on the Debbie story. I really do. Not enough evidence to claim a guilty verdict.
However, looking at the MSM I do have to peacefully disagree. Yes Fox news is right leaning. Yet after watching all the MSM has to offer. Fox does both. It bashes Trump and defends him. Just going from experience here. I'm not so sure the others are doing the same. In fact I feel they are pushing an agenda instead of just reporting the news. I would agree that Fox has it's fair share of biased talking heads. Sean Hannity? Tucker Carlson? Yet the MSM deciding who should be president and who shouldn't be. Scares the hell out of me, and is quite disrespectful to the American voter.
Think about this. With the MSM we went from Russian collusion, to racist, and now Trump is mentally unstable. When does it end? Why do they keeping changing the narrative when the previous one doesn't stick? I also understand that some like yourself don't agree with Trump's policies. That's cool. There is an argument/conversation to be had on that.
However Trump won regardless if you think the electoral process isn't a fair way to elect a president. He won a system that has been in place for some time. Not his fault.
I find it humorous and intriguing that some would slam our government process and our two party system because Trump is the president. Especially seeing how the Reps own the House, Senate, and the Presidency. Yet they can't get nothing done because of 8 Dem Senators. A voting process put in place long ago.
I wasn't trying to be disrespectful to you or any other. Just was trying to point out the unfair MSM reporting of Trump and the Debbie story. Just for the record Fox did indeed report on the Debbie story.
My fear of Beatty is that he can build a program. Yet can't break the mold.
With all the investments in the Football program will the decision makers be happy with finishing in the middle of the pack year after year?
I really think and believe the money that is going to flow into the Football program has and end game in mind. Is it leaving the Big 12? Is it just claiming a spot in the power teams of the College realm?
Something is going on? Hope Beatty can do it.
Your last post was some good stuff. If I may say? One of your best. Not saying I agree with everything. Yet you do have me thinking.
Bravo.
I think my big gist is? Well that the MSM had no problem with reporting on anonymous leaks and reports without properly vetting them. As most of the issues seem to be filling out/sending in proper paper work. And if anybody knows dealing with the Government can be quite a headache.
Lets be fair here? The MSM pretty much characterized Trump as guilty before any of the true facts came in. In my opinion they didn't even properly vet the leaks and info they had uncovered/received. If it was bad for Trump it went on the air.
I do think this Debbie story is legit and should be reported on. I'm reserving a guilty verdict until I can see more evidence on the issue. Yet this is the second story in less than a year where we have the Dem party or someone connected to the Dem party destroying hard drives and phones. I'm sorry you don't do this unless you have something to hide. You just don't
Bottom line if some of these flimsy facts turn out true. They would be a threat to national security and on the same level as the so called Trump/Russian collusion. The fact the MSM doesn't even give an update on the issue? Only confirms my thoughts that the MSM isn't fair and has deep ties to the Dem party.
I think KU football is going to surprise a lot people this year. KU football was quite competitive last year despite a dismal record.
I'm believing that HC Beaty is the real deal. His recruiting classes have been solid, and the play on the field seems to be moving in the right direction. I mean the players actually look like they know how to play the game.
That's kind of the point. Most media outlets don't/won't to talk about this.
I would be glad to link a CNN or MSNBC article/video to appease your sense of what good Media journalism is. Yet they are to busy with trying to cast Trump as a racist.
BTW whatever happened to the Russian collision with Trump? Never seem to hear anything about that anymore?
You'll never hear about this ↗
And the plot thickens. Yet you won't hear this in the media. Yet if this was Trump O-----------M--------------G.
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I'm speechless.
I don't know if you're calling me out or just making a point? I would agree that a two party system has it's faults. Yet when I look out on the horizon I don't see anything better.
Either way I respect what you have to say. Nobody has all the answers.
I would feel the biggest flaws of a two party system is that citizens get locked into their parties never really giving the opposing candidate a fair shake. Just voting party lines without really knowing who they are voting for. Yet is it any different in any other type of government? Where there is power there will be those that aspire to it at all costs.
I assume you think that I gather my information as to fit my narrative? Maybe there is some truth to that. Yet are you any different? I think we are all guilty of that.
Yet at the end the day it's our communications, talking the issues is what educates us. Gives us a better understanding of the issues plaguing our world today. I can research all the websites for all sides of the issues. Yet it's talking about it with others that might have an opposing view of mine. That I learn the most.
And to show/prove that I do my research. You pick the topic/issue and I'll put on my Liberal boots on. I think you'll be surprised.
Anyways thanks for the banter. It was good that we could discuss with out name calling Hey you maybe right and I'm just out of my mind.
It wouldn't be the first time.
Anyways thanks for taking time out for me. I appreciate it. If you believe in God, and even if you don't. I hope and pray God is with you and your family. Night.
I would agree if I knew for sure my black American brothers and sisters were totally in agreement in tearing down the statues. Count me in.
Yet some of the things I'm seeing in my research are telling me different. I'm seeing a lot of young white leftists saying this is what needs to be done. That creates questions for me.
I also have to ask why are we blaming Trump? When he clearly came out against the KKK? He also come out against the altleft. I know some of you think they are hero's. Yet they didn't show up there without weapons in hand, and they are the same group that stopped free speech on college campus in Cali. (Is this what you want?) They were looking for a fight. Sadly the KKK had the permits to march. The altleft didn't. Look I'm not for the KKK. I hope you see that? Yet I am for freedom of speech.
I would hope be now you would see that I read all kinds of media. Maybe not?
My friend I have the media in the bag. Yet I have to understand the media and the direction we want to go. So many depend on the media for their education, and opinions. Not realizing they maybe lead down the path like a sheep to the wolves.
Come on I voted for Trump. You really think the media likes Trump?
I think the point of why I started this topic. Was to be real. I think that it takes two to make our country great. You know to keep one or the other from going to far in one direction.
I don't know if the our founding fathers were geniuses or just got lucky. Yet a two party system is what makes this country great. Differing ideas. The battle that ensues. The American people deciding what's it is best.
My only concern is hanging unto the past. Like it has a foothold in todays arena. America today is less racist than it has ever been, and that is good. Yet if we want to bring up the past I'm not sure that is a positive step.
I assume you're a business man. You know focusing on the past failures isn't a recipe for success in the future. Yes we need to look at the past to learn from our mistakes. Yet to stay in the past and not focus on the positive steps is a recipe for failure. Am I wrong?
I couldn't agree more.
Yet if I understand the study right? Dems are smarter than Reps.
I agree polls can be way off, and I would never defend them. As I believe polls are taken with an agenda in mind. You no what I mean?
I'm sorry if I becoming sour grapes on this subject. I just hate the idea that we can't even have the conversation on the subject. I know I will be labeled as a racist because of some the points I bring up. I don't like it. I don't think it's fair.
What do we really want? equality or retribution? I never owned no slaves. I wouldn't because In my upbringing I was taught that all persons are the same. I wasn't taught to hate. I wasn't taught think I'm better. I've seen it with my own eyes.
Me personally I think the real fight should be on public schools funding. I've seen both sides, and it's far from fair. Kids in poor schools don't get a fair shake. They just don't. Taking down statues is a nice gesture but it changes nothing. Slavery still happened, you can't erase that. Yet if we the people focus our passion and resources that can make a difference. Like Public school equality. That's a fight I want in on.
I know I've offended some. I just think tearing down statues does nothing. I also wandering where does it stop. With the constitution?
To be honest she probably deserved it, as she was egging them on. Yet can't a person stand in this free America for what they believe without fear of being beat/killed. I'm sorry that didn't look like and Altleft crowd that cared about freedom of speech to me.
I'm just pointing out that racism and fear goes both ways. Sorry if I'm being to surreal.
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I guess this is the new America? Because the altleft is never violent? I wander if she feared for her life?
In light of the recent events, that has cause a lot of emotion and such. I though it would be fun to stretch the mind and have some fun.
So what do you think? BS or maybe some truth?
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Why do you assume I'm scared? I just question the motive and reasoning for tearing down those statues. Where was this movement when Obama was in office?
Another point is I see more young white persons wanting/demanding these statues come down than I do Black Americans. In fact see a lot of Black Americans saying leave them up. What's going on here? If Blacks are demanding the statues come down? Then why isn't the media and such showing them?
Are we to bow to every demand of someone that is offended?
I'm not trying to stir the pot by any means. Yet just trying to have the conversation. I'm not sure you feel the same?
I see those statues not as rewarding hatred, yet as reminding future Americans of it's history, and just how far we've come as a nation. I'm not alone in my thinking.
Is this random or something bigger? ↗
This is the kind of thing that I was speaking of. This person or persons probably don't even know that Lincoln fought to end slavery. Yet to them their lack of knowledge is no matter. Just being apart of the movement is all that matters.
If they can do this to Honest Abe, you think GW is safe?
I don't know about that. I mean I get what your saying. Yet it's not like Americans went to Africa and raided tribes for slaves. Most blacks were sold into slavery by their own people.
I've also read that in the south the Blacks were able to really have their own communities as long as they worked the farms. Now I'm not saying this a righteous thing by no means or the norm by any means. Don't get any crazy ideas like I'm glossing up a pile of crap. Slavery is wrong....................
However in early America Slavery was kind of the norm for the world. Look at South America. It was basically one big slave farm, that was run by the Spanish/Portuguese.
Just want to say thanks for being fair and bantering with my on the issue. In the end we may disagree or even agree. Yet at least we had the conversation.
It's not about picking sides for me. As I get your passion on taking down the statues. Yet I'm skeptical that is where it ends. You this is a movement. Movements don't end until they are impede. If you think this movement stops with statues then I'm not sure you're seeing the same picture I'm seeing.
It's a fine thing the GW released his slaves upon death and you feel he should get a free pass. Yet you don't control this movement. Movements are funning like that.
Somebody mentioned/compared this issue to Nazi Germany. Some seem to forget that Hitler didn't just take control of Germany. It was started with a movement. The citizens of Germany were poor and in some cases starving to death. Hitler blamed the Jews as they held all the wealth. It's was a no-brainer for the citizens of Germany. Yet the movement didn't stop and went further and further. I went farther than I would believe most German citizens wanted it to go.
This movement is receiving a well earned victory. The statues are indeed coming down. However will it stop there? Will the leaders of this movement and it's people be satisfied.
That's the million dollar question. Many of our founder fathers were indeed slave owners. Will it appease the movement that some of these founding fathers release their slaves at their demise? Or will the movement say not good enough? Lets not for get our constitution was signed by slave owners. Will this one day try to take down the constitution because it was signed by slave owners?
Your guess is as good as mine.
I'm afraid when emotion is involved on a subject like this there will be hate. I agree though.
I'm just afraid that we are reaching a point in this country that we can't just talk about the issues. Somebody always has to be wrong, or somebody has to be a racist.
It kind of breaks my heart to be honest. As I believe that is the best thing about America, or used to be. The ability to voice and talk about the issues. It just doesn't seem to be the case anymore.
No not all. Just was interested in your link. That's all. Hey I don't blame you or condemn you for what you feel and believe to be the truth.
Lets be honest this is a very touchy subject. A lot of emotion involved. Last thing I want to do his hurt or ruin any might be friendships over this issue. It's not worth it.
As I said before I get it why some would advocate for bringing down the statues. Yet I just wander is the right thing to do, and where does it stop?
That's kind of my point. I'm not for worshiping anybody I don't care who they are. Every man and woman has flaws. Some rise to greatness most do not. Yet they still have flaws, and I believe that it should be studied and learned. However I do create concerns in my mind when we as a nation try to erase history. I think this might be a very bad thing. Maybe not to day but down the road.
No qualms with that post.
Why is it wrong to have a discussion about the hot topic in the last few days? It may seem a no brainer. Yet is it?
I don't know. As I said before I get it. I just wander what does it really solve and where does it end.
Will the next generation of Americans that come, be pissed that we tried to cover up our tainted past. To erase it and act like it didn't happen. Don't think that won't happen? OK
I guess my thought is where does it end? I mean Slavery has been apart of humanity since the beginning of time. It's not like America created it.
Not to mention American had one of the bloodiest wars to end it's practice.
I'm talking to you as it seems others have their minds made up and don't care for the discussion.
Well that's kind of rude.