Just checkin guys, there was talk about starting new thread, other was getting really long, if ya want hear we go.
Hot items Zion and Devon anyone wanting to pick it up or other recruiting? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Well watching the game tonight, - -Devon is Legit - -really quick, they say he had 13 pts some really good passes. - -Robinson Earle snatches anything up on the boards - - -got some good hops, -- Harvey From Topeka Hayden is throw -threw down Monster dunk, None of these three disappointing - -all look good.
Devon is the man though mercy - -super quick - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer54 yeah, Dotson having a solid game. Showing an all around skill. Speed, ball handling, passing, rebounding, and hit a nice three. I like it.
Did you happen to notice who Steph has been sitting next to?
@RockkChalkk No didn't catch who he was sitting next to. Who was it? - - Ya Devon for sure didn't do ANY thing to my hoped of him coming here, - -also I really liked Robinson Earle looks pretty fluid and glass eater. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Josh Jackson
JRE will be a joy for Self to coach. Should be a fan favourite too.
BShark said:
JRE will be a joy for Self to coach. Should be a fan favourite too.
A lot of Perry Ellis in his game. He's definitely a gamer
Slater has been killing the boards the last few days. I wonder if recruits will notice all the nuggets he's dropped about where people are going or likely to end up at.
The way things are shaping up it looks like KU, UK, Duke & Arizona are going to have killer classes.
KU- Likely getting Dotson & Grimes. Good chance at Zion. After that ?
UK- Quickley, Good chances with Zion & Shittu so far. Reddish still a possibility. King wants UK but they haven't offered.
Duke- Jones, Reddish, good chance at Barrett. Still in it with Zion.
Arizona- Already has O"Neal, Quinerly, Williams. Likely getting Little, Still after Grimes, Bol and others.
Recruiting is crazy!
Interesting take away is that Shittu and Barrett are perceived to be mutually exclusive. I think UK would want both, but it seemingly isn't possible. If anyone could do it though, well...I'd certainly never count out Cal for anything.
BShark said:
Interesting take away is that Shittu and Barrett are perceived to be mutually exclusive. I think UK would want both, but it seemingly isn't possible. If anyone could do it though, well...I'd certainly never count out Cal for anything.
That was some crazy inside the details that Slater dropped on their situation yesterday.
Oregon fans went nuts thinking Shittu and Barrett were friends and the Canadian pipeline would continue.
Slater dropped all the info saying they are not friends, they had an issue a few years ago and Shittu's handler and RJ's father don't get along. So the moral of the story is Kentucky could get 1 but not both. Both are considering Oregon but both won't land there. Seems RJ to Duke is more of a possibility then RJ to anywhere else...
@approxinfinity: The auto-tag from titles might need tweaking. I see it decided to make a tag for "thread" out of this one! And there is a spelling issue on the other tag.....
@BeddieKU23 UK writer said that KU is much more of a player for Barrett than people think. Of course, I don't think anyone is getting Zion AND Barrett.
I believe that as well. The Zion news is the hot ticket right now but I feel we are probably in the same position for both at the moment. What's interesting is his intel that Barrett won't drag this out past the fall which I thought would be the plan with them reclassifying so late. Wherever he lands among the UK/Duke/KU trio that would assumingly take them out of the running for Zion. I think both Zion's and RJ's brands are big enough where they don't want to be fighting for the limelight at the same school. I know Duke/UK fans believe they can get both but I don't see it.
Slater seems to think Zion wants to end this early but his dad might drag this out to spring. I think both situations benefit KU for Zion in that case. We have the recent momentum with Dotson and them playing together and offering his good friend and AAU teammate James. If he waits until spring he can see who goes pro and how KU's season goes. If Vick has a big season and leaves its likely Zion will see plenty of playing time available at the wing position. He could even end up being the perfect 4 man at KU as well with his size and athleticism
So a quick recap of where things stand with recruits.
The lack of good big men in this class is concerning and the lack of targets on the board makes me believe KU thinks guys will be back or that recruits themselves are not sure what Doke & Preston will do at season's end. It's clear KU needs to land big's in this class and the only players with legitimate interest are David McCormack & Emmitt Williams at this time. Most likely we'll be going into the spring looking at late-signing, de-commits and transfers.
Rumored to be locks according to Andrew Slater.
Grimes & Dotson
In with a good chance:
Zion Williamson, RJ Barrett, Emmitt Williams, Noah Locke, David McCormack
In it but have work to do
Ayo Dosunmu (hasn't visited, Illinois & Xavier have prioritized him), Romeo Langford (Louisville lean) , Louis King (waiting for UK) , Naz Reid (LSU likely), Moses Brown (wants blue-bloods but didn't play well this summer), Keldon Johnson (offered late but Texas lean), Jalen Carey (KU prioritized Dotson/Grimes over him), Kaden Archie (new offer, late to party),
Unlikely options with offers
Jules Bernard (staying West Coast), David Duke (Providence lean), Deyontae Johnson (new offer), Demetrius James (Zion's friend), Jermaine Harris (new offer, late to party), Jairus Hamilton (Not leaving North Carolina)
I say get Mitchell Robinson if we can, that would be perfect aside from the personal issues he has.
@BeddieKU23 Solid consolidation of information. :thumbsup_tone1:
BShark said:
I say get Mitchell Robinson if we can, that would be perfect aside from the personal issues he has.
@BeddieKU23 Solid consolidation of information. :thumbsup_tone1:
Everything about Robinson scares me.
That's fair. Could be the staff passes on him after having him in for a visit. We will see...
To be honest I am almost positive he ends up at KU. KU is the only quality program with a scholarship to give. I could be wrong? Its all going to depend on what Coach Self and Robinson hash out. I also think it depends on whether he commits to playing in 2018/2019 if he doesn't get cleared by the NCAA this year? The down side to this is he is projected in the top 10 on some draft boards. He could drop off the NBA radar all together and give Coach Self another DUD in the big department. Alexander and Company, Diallo, and coming soon to AFH Robinson and company. It could end up hurting Coach Self's reputation if he leaves after not playing and going in the 2nd round or undrafted?
!0_1502294290226_bbb.jpg ↗ He posted this and removed it on his twitter account. 8/2/17 I wonder why he felt he needed to take it down?
I want Robinson and think he ends up here. For two years. He is a head case who I can guarantee slipped down 10 spots already just from all this stuff going on right now. And he doesn't have Thon Maker upside (36inch vertical), while he has all the same Thon Maker negatives (skinny headcase who can't hold post position and likes to shoot shots he probably shouldn't). If Hamidou Diallo couldn't get drafted in the first round after posting a 46 inch vertical, I find it hard to believe that Robinson will get drafted without playing.
Mitchel Robinson reminds me of Anthony Davis in a lot of ways. That's his ceiling, its game changing what he can possibly do in a KU uniform. Runs the floor well, long arms, athletic, can shoot the 3 although you don't need him to. Looks like an NBA player to me. The only big in the 2018 class that's as good as him is Bagley. There might have been more hype for Robinson had he chosen a blue-blood the first time.
I'm just scared that we get sucked into expecting something from him we can't get if he ends up here. Is he another Carlton Bragg that continues to unravel under Self's watch? Or is he Newman that takes the 2nd chance sincere and becomes apart of the team instead of what other people want from him. Can Self babysit someone that may have that many concerns surrounding him off-the-court? Are the concerns overblown? We'll see how the visit shakes out
just checked, we picked up two more CB'S for my boy Devon. - -Chad Lykins, & Adam Rowe predicted Devon ending up at KU CB is now 92% KU -8 % Florida.
I know this, after watching Devon last night, he certainly did nothing to change my mind on how I would love to see him here. I didn't realize how quick he was. - -Very quick, really fast. Takes the ball to the rim hard - -very impressive. Lost count of how many times he left Jahvon holding his strap.
There is talk he needs to improve on his jumper, very well could be, seen him hit a couple, didn't look to bad, - -made some sweet passes, have no doubt he will end up moving up & probably end up a 5 star, not that it matters that much - -4 star - -5 star, this kid can ball.
Just as I have been 100% Devon - -I'm now officially on board 100% for Emmit Williams & Robinson Earle both. - -- Robinson Earle looks even better then I thought, true it was an all star game, still looked very fluid, mobile. - -Robinson Earle is a guy in our backyard we can't let slip through I fingers & I don't believe we will. Emmit Williams looks sweet again it was hi-light film but MAN he definitely brings an edge to the floor very aggressive. Loves to finish, we need these type of guys, I get so tired of a big working hard to get position & then 8 times out of 10 I have seen a liltle soft bank shot or a attempted finger roll. A Big gets position like that then we need guys that's going to punish the rim , let that defender - -umm no don't try stopping this - -this is my time. -- Williams is that type of guy - -Really want to see him in a KU Uni next year - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Some quick hits...
Robinson-Earl is very explosive and has been adding muscle. If he stays on this trajectory, he's a top 25 player in his class IMHO.
Dotson, I like him because he's comfortable finishing with either hand, even in traffic. Not many guards are really comfortable with that.
I am high on Williams' athleticism, but not his overall skills. His shot isn't as clean as I would like. He could contribute immediately defensively and on the glass, but I don't know how effective he will be offensively out of the box.
Mitchell Robinson is good at basketball. He is impossibly skilled for his size. He's a better shooter than Anthony Davis was at the same point, but probably not quite the athlete. Still, college players have very little chance of matching up with him on a nightly basis.
So, if Robinson is as good as many say -- if we sign him and he sits a year -- why would he hang around for 2018-19?
@HighEliteMajor I understand what your saying, & I have heard that from several - -saying he sits the year and practices with the team during the year & then declares for the NBA without playing a minute for KU. - -I have even thought about that myself, BUT I have also heard argument on the other foot people saying that they believe Coach Self will approach Robinson with the same line as he did Newman -If you come here your here for two you - -if not then you can walk to somebody else. - - Myself personally -I don't know, my big concern as a lot of others is the baggage - -some Cancer with this kid. - -Can Coach get that straightened out? - -Maybe - -Possibly - -my concern is, is it worth the risk? - -Cancer PLUS not knowing if he ever steps foot on the floor in a KU uni? - -If it can be worked out -- -then definitely he is a huge talent would help tremendously for our inside game. We shall see. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@HighEliteMajor he probably wouldnt want to. Newman stayed because his stock was lower while Robinson does not have that problem. Maybe we could get him as a partial qualifier for the spring semester? I would certainly take that.
There has been a lot of momentum towards KU with many different high level players. Its fun to imagine, but what if all of the planets aligned and all of the real possibilities for KU end up happening AND our underclassmen remain vs going pro. Our team could look like the list below in 2018.
Moore, Grimes, Dotson, Garrett, Vick, Cunliffe, KJ Lawson, Zion Williamson, Lightfoot, D. Lawson, Preston, Dok, Mitchell Robinson
Its obvious that this will never happen but it seems like some of these recruits are an either/or situation. OR, Self knows that some of our returning guys are likely gone. I didn't include Newman either because it is pretty much accepted that this year will be his last at KU barring serious injury.
The common thought is that we definitely are pursuing Dotson & Grimes and one is not dependent on the other, meaning there is room for both in addition to Moore. The tea leaves tell me this means Self believes Vick is gone.
The situation with the big men appears more complex. This one feels like maybe Self thinks the odds of getting Zion aren't very high. The catch with this is that the decision from Mitchell Robinson has to be made by Aug 31 so he can't make it a conditional offer based on Zion's decision. Seems to me like it will need to be one or the other and might put Self in a tough spot.
RockkChalkk said:
There has been a lot of momentum towards KU with many different high level players. Its fun to imagine, but what if all of the planets aligned and all of the real possibilities for KU end up happening AND our underclassmen remain vs going pro. Our team could look like the list below in 2018.
Moore, Grimes, Dotson, Garrett, Vick, Cunliffe, KJ Lawson, Zion Williamson, Lightfoot, D. Lawson, Preston, Dok, Mitchell Robinson
Its obvious that this will never happen but it seems like some of these recruits are an either/or situation. OR, Self knows that some of our returning guys are likely gone. I didn't include Newman either because it is pretty much accepted that this year will be his last at KU barring serious injury.
The common thought is that we definitely are pursuing Dotson & Grimes and one is not dependent on the other, meaning there is room for both in addition to Moore. The tea leaves tell me this means Self believes Vick is gone.
The situation with the big men appears more complex. This one feels like maybe Self thinks the odds of getting Zion aren't very high. The catch with this is that the decision from Mitchell Robinson has to be made by Aug 31 so he can't make it a conditional offer based on Zion's decision. Seems to me like it will need to be one or the other and might put Self in a tough spot.
I just don't think you can land Grimes and Zion without Vick leaving. But what the hell do I know? Kentucky has been able to platoon before and somehow convinced kids to buy in.
Everything else is possible, but not probable. Between Doke, Robinson and Preston, two of those if not all three, will turn pro after this season.
This is down the road -but kid is exploding on the scene. - -Read where we offered yesterday a 2020 wing player by the name of Jabri Adur-rahim - - he received offers from KU - - -Arizona - - -& Michigan State in the 24 hour time frame, gonna be a very good player - lots of offers coming. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
It's the two Duke guys following Slater's lead. It isn't meaningless but they are acting on known info.
Oh and if you are a good guard but need to work on your jump shot, you should pick Kansas. There is little doubt. See: Frank Mason, Wayne Selden, Travis Releford. There were better shooters to play under Self, but those three needed major help and got it. Mason was UNREAL last year.
@RockkChalkk Looks like Moore could be a back-up. Slater mentioned that when asked KU's main guard targets said they were not afraid of Moore. And rightfully so.
“I think Kansas makes sense,” he said, “from the perspective of his relationship with [5-star point guard] Devon Dotson, who may wind up [committing to Kansas] fairly soon, his strong connection to Adidas [Williamson plays on that shoe-company’s AAU circuit] and Kansas’ ability to showcase players like him, as they did with Josh Jackson [No. 4 overall pick in the 2017 NBA Draft]. He also has a strong relationship with Bill Self.”
2018 PG Devon Dotson is scheduled to officially visit the University of Kansas later this month. The #20 ranked player in the 247Sports 2018 rankings will begin his visit to Kansas on August 25th-27th.
Dotson is fresh off of his impressive performance at the SC30 Select game in San Francisco on Tuesday night, putting on a show at Under Armour All-America Camp, putting on another show with fellow KU recruit Zion Williamson in Las Vegas and being one of the top players on the UAA circuit the entire spring and summer.
Kansas Assistant Coach Norm Roberts and Head Coach Bill Self lead the way in the recruitment of Dotson to Kansas.
Dotson is also considering Florida, Maryland, Miami and more.
Check it out guys - -nice little article on 247, with the headline -Is KU trending for the # 1 player, talking about Zion - -check it out talks about Slater. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
If everything hold up withDD then I think he will be a jayhawk
RockkChalkk said:
There has been a lot of momentum towards KU with many different high level players. Its fun to imagine, but what if all of the planets aligned and all of the real possibilities for KU end up happening AND our underclassmen remain vs going pro. Our team could look like the list below in 2018.
Moore, Grimes, Dotson, Garrett, Vick, Cunliffe, KJ Lawson, Zion Williamson, Lightfoot, D. Lawson, Preston, Dok, Mitchell Robinson
Its obvious that this will never happen but it seems like some of these recruits are an either/or situation. OR, Self knows that some of our returning guys are likely gone. I didn't include Newman either because it is pretty much accepted that this year will be his last at KU barring serious injury.
The common thought is that we definitely are pursuing Dotson & Grimes and one is not dependent on the other, meaning there is room for both in addition to Moore. The tea leaves tell me this means Self believes Vick is gone.
The situation with the big men appears more complex. This one feels like maybe Self thinks the odds of getting Zion aren't very high. The catch with this is that the decision from Mitchell Robinson has to be made by Aug 31 so he can't make it a conditional offer based on Zion's decision. Seems to me like it will need to be one or the other and might put Self in a tough spot.
Your tea leaves may be correct. I just think Self is recruiting numbers, you lose your starting PG, SG, SF and TBD in the post and your stuck needing everything. Vick with a good year is a candidate to at least be in the combine. It's why we are gaining traction with elite players such as Zion because these kids know they can come in and play. Dotson is needed, Grimes is needed maybe more because of his ability to play multiple positions.
With Zion you just make room for him. He's the type of recruit that changes the balance of College Basketball. His Brand is bigger then Wiggins or Jackson's ever will be. I think its huge that he could possibly end up here. We'll see though I'm not getting my hopes up with him.
BShark said:
2018 PG Devon Dotson is scheduled to officially visit the University of Kansas later this month. The #20 ranked player in the 247Sports 2018 rankings will begin his visit to Kansas on August 25th-27th.
Dotson is fresh off of his impressive performance at the SC30 Select game in San Francisco on Tuesday night, putting on a show at Under Armour All-America Camp, putting on another show with fellow KU recruit Zion Williamson in Las Vegas and being one of the top players on the UAA circuit the entire spring and summer.
Kansas Assistant Coach Norm Roberts and Head Coach Bill Self lead the way in the recruitment of Dotson to Kansas.
Dotson is also considering Florida, Maryland, Miami and more.
He will commit on the visit and announce after! Bold prediction, I know
HighEliteMajor said:
So, if Robinson is as good as many say -- if we sign him and he sits a year -- why would he hang around for 2018-19?
Pretty much what I've been saying. The Robinson situation scares me. He's a OAD that has made his situation difficult now to achieve that.
There is nothing stopping him from saying what he needs to say to Self, training for the year with the team and then hitting the draft once the season comes around and he starts feeling that he belongs there as well.
justanotherfan said:
Some quick hits...
Robinson-Earl is very explosive and has been adding muscle. If he stays on this trajectory, he's a top 25 player in his class IMHO.
Dotson, I like him because he's comfortable finishing with either hand, even in traffic. Not many guards are really comfortable with that.
I am high on Williams' athleticism, but not his overall skills. His shot isn't as clean as I would like. He could contribute immediately defensively and on the glass, but I don't know how effective he will be offensively out of the box.
Mitchell Robinson is good at basketball. He is impossibly skilled for his size. He's a better shooter than Anthony Davis was at the same point, but probably not quite the athlete. Still, college players have very little chance of matching up with him on a nightly basis.
Robinson-Earl just looks like a Perry Ellis clone. Great footwork, dominates in the paint and as you said has become a much more explosive athlete as he's maturing and getting older. Will be a great addition to the KU team in 19.
Williams has been developing that shot. In the spring he shot something like 15-23 from 3 in an tournament. At his size you do want him to continue to work on it but how much will he really need to work on it with all the other things he does. Elite motor, elite athletic ability, he dunked on Bagley this summer with authority. He has this nasty edge to him that you don't find in many players at this stage. He can switch defensively and guard wings or body up bigs that are taller then him. Going to be a tough pull from Nike and his handler but whoever gets him is getting a really good player.
Agree about Robinson. Big ceiling, his situation is scary though
Matt Scott accurately describes Emmitt Williams.
Think about Jamari Traylor. Now multiply that by 100 and you have Emmitt. I can't describe to you what a freak he is. You have to see it in person.
In the video - he goes up for a block, recovers, and then blocks Jontay Porter's TWO HAND DUNK ATTEMPT!!! Jontay is 6'10" and at least 230 lbs and Emmitt sat him down.
You never have to run a play for him (although the play he hits a 3 in the video is called Kansas) and he will get 8 points, 10 rebounds and 2 blocks a night and those would be just effort stats. I would take that every single day and twice on Sunday.
@BeddieKU23 Dotson could even announce beforehand and take the visit just for fun.
And yeah, Williams would be a great get.
Lets all hope Coach Self can pull of another 2013 recruiting class! I am all for it BUT I am not going to get excited until they sign LOI's! Last year was a bummer! I really hope Robinson lands at KU and he can play this year! If that happens then I like our chances in March. After BOTH of our bigs missed the last game this summer I am not comfortable with our lack of depth!
@BeddieKU23 I am all for Robinsons committing to KU and doing just that. I think he makes our team better even if he is just making Udoka work harder in practice. It will benefit KU but I hope he plays a year!
https://wingspansports.com/2017/08/09/mitchell-robinson-to-visit-kansas/ ↗
Kansas already has the best backcourt in the country and their wings are phenomenal so if they get Robinson, this roster will be one of the best in the country and by a long shot.
I got this from another board but its looks promising. "I'm not so sure Robinson actually met the conditions for a transfer. From the NCAA, "Transfer trigger: A condition that can affect your transfer status. A student who triggers transfer status is a student who:
• Has been a full-time student at a two-year or four-year college during a regular academic term. Classes taken during summer terms do not count.
• Practiced with a college team.
• Practiced or competed while enrolled as a part-time student.
• Received financial aid from a college while attending summer school." He didn't meet all the conditions, so it's possible he can play."
http://kansas.247sports.com/Board/Kansas-Jayhawks-Message-Board-Forum-59455 ↗
@Statmachine I think the last condition is the one in question, did he receive aid during summer school? Then, if he did, it can't be that much. I wonder if paying it back could be a condition to get his eligibility back for this year. May be a stretch but never know.
@RockkChalkk If he dropped the classes after being there 2 weeks he wouldn't have used any aid
I agree about Emmitt Williams as an athlete. He is absolutely a freak athlete. Problem is, he's 6-8. At 6-8, you can't be sure he will be able to dominate in the paint based purely on athleticism because the college players will be much stronger than his current competition, so they can negate some of his athleticism with their strength.
I have the same concern with Zion Williamson. He's 6-7. He's incredibly strong and athletic, but again, collegiate guys will be able to negate some of that. He won't be able to dominate on strength and athleticism alone, and at 6-7 or 6-8, both of these guys will need to be able to step out on the floor and shoot and handle. Notice how effective Josh Jackson was, mostly because he could handle and pass. Even though his shot was shaky at times, because he could really handle the basketball, his offensive game opened up.
I haven't seen that type of handle from either Williams or Williamson. I see a lot of straightline drives, but not a lot of shiftiness and skill moves. That's my concern. I think they can be good, but they will have to be energy guys, not primary options.
If y'all haven't, watch Mitchell Robinson highlights. He's worth the risks imo.
Mitchell Robinson passes the brow test to me lol
HighEliteMajor said:
So, if Robinson is as good as many say -- if we sign him and he sits a year -- why would he hang around for 2018-19?
I have the same concern, particularly when there already is precedent of him clearing up his room and leaving without notice.
If Coach Self has information that he will qualify for the upcoming season then by all means do it since the front line is very thin; however, if he will not be playing, I would be hesitant to take him. Looks like it worked great with Malik Newman so there is that precedent...although both situations are quite different.
@BeddieKU23 I agree, I just have this gut feeling on Emmit -feels good, and your right he has that nastiness - and that is one of the BIG things that I like, like I mentioned he brings that edge to the court, the guy has a really get after it attitude on the floor, not soft by any means - -love it. - -I think he ends up here. - -My BOLD prediction lol, guess it's a day for that huh? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@BeddieKU23 Again I agree with you and what's being said this guy is an athletic freak, he is coming, he is coming, he is coming. I can feel it, I can taste it, my KU skin and gut is sayin it. Welcome EMMIT Williams. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@BShark Yet another prediction for us this morning for Devon coming. - I think I'm gettin my boy lol - -well I mean our boy you know But been on him from the get go. - Now I need to jump Quentin get the pair, hell ya - -I'm stoked this morning . Need to calm my old writhered up body down gets my blood pressure to high lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@justanotherfan Williams plays bigger then 6'8. I have no worries about his transition to College ball, I feel he will hold his own.
A far as Zion actually you might be more spot on with him then Emmit. - - About all I've seen from Zion is dunks - - powerful dunks, what is his outside shot like? - -Not trying to damper just a question. - -Does he have any kind of outside jumper? - -I seriously don't know.
Emmit has shown at least some kind of outside game, maybe not a lot, but at least something to work off of, and develop more - -Zion -- - just not sure, let me know. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@JayHawkFanToo I just don't like the odds of Mitchell being eligible this year, which leads to the possibility of what's being brought up - -train with the team during his sit yr and then time rolls around and he declares for the NBA. - -pretty shaky situation, but like some suggest maybe Coach feels pretty good about his chances of being eligible this yr. - -If he IS eligible, then for sure he is definetly a guy we need. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Williams height seems to vary depending on who you ask but he's certainly in that 6'6-6'8 range. He's so strong and has that quick athleticism to him that helps him hold his own against bigger guys. Case in point when he was matched up against Bagley who's 6'10, 6'11 and a freak himself and he was able to make plays against him on both ends of the floor. I certainly agree that at the next level he may lose some of his edge he currently has. I just also wanted to point out that he's played high level kids bigger then him this summer and either out-played them or found ways to still be effective.
Zion is another example of looking at other things he does besides the incredible athletic ability and dunks. You can't stop him if he gets in transition downhill. Even at the College level he's going to get what he wants because physically he's just too big for most players. He's really efficient player, something like 60% FG this summer. Willing passer, rebounder, rim defender. I see much more then just athlete that can dunk. Again you have a point that in College things won't come as easy but I think he knows that and is too good to let that bother him. Self knows how to get kids like him to perform at their best. His perimeter shot is developing as well which is a key to his long-term potential in the NBA. I came into the summer saying can this kid do anything but Dunk? Then after seeing some of his games this summer you see a ton of other things he does so well.
How soon will we know if Robinson is eligible to play this coming year?
You could take Robinson and still benefit regardless of whether he is eligible, or if not, even if he doesn't stay 2018-19. Right now there is no one of any size against whom our 1st team and redshirts can practice. Doke needs to be able to work against size on both offense and defense, and Mitch, while energetic, isn't at the level we will see in games.
This works, of course, only if Self is able to succeed this year despite having that thin front line.
If Robinson finds out he doesn't grade first round at the combine (if invited), then he probably stays and it was a good bet.
mayjay said:
You could take Robinson and still benefit regardless of whether he is eligible, or if not, even if he doesn't stay 2018-19. Right now there is no one of any size against whom our 1st team and redshirts can practice. Doke needs to be able to work against size on both offense and defense, and Mitch, while energetic, isn't at the level we will see in games.
This works, of course, only if Self is able to succeed this year despite having that thin front line.
If Robinson finds out he doesn't grade first round at the combine (if invited), then he probably stays and it was a good bet.
Good Points. Hope your right
@mayjay I have heard folks talking about that and it is a good idea. Of course, one cant help dream about a scenario where he plays with us this year. Is he versatile enough to play the four? He looks pretty quick from what I've seen. Would be sweet to have him and Dok play at the same time. Thats two legitimate shot blockers and a lot of length on the front line.
Bill knows how to showcase players like Zion. Zion knows this.
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For those of you who don't know that was Robinson's post on his snapchat storyline!
What else did it say?
That's all.
@Statmachine exciting. let's get him eligible for this year.
LSU looking pretty likely. :/
Report have came out tonight that LSU is no longer recruiting Mitchell Robinson
@blackmild33 hmmmmm, wonder why they not interested now? - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer54 no ship?
@Crimsonorblue22 Ya that's a very high possibility, didn't someone else here say that no one had any scholi's available? - -If things play out right & Mitchell gets some other things together, then we just had a 5 star stud handed to us on a platter would be sweet. - --ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
LSU looking pretty likely. :/
Look at this dumbass.
He could say no to college ball too! I'm waiting to hear from coach.😳🙏
@Crimsonorblue22 Where did you read or hear LSU was no longer interested? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer54 All over the internet. But particularly this: 🐦 View Tweet
@BShark Ya I pulled it up off the LSY scout forum, they had an article, talking like very slim he going to be able to play this yr, that's a big part why they backed off recruiting him - -Looks a lot like he will either have to sit - - -JR College - - -Play over sea's -or just sit completely out and then declare next year - -we will see what happens. - -I would think if he wanted to opt for anything but play College Ball he wouldn't even be making any Visit any wasting people's time though I dunno. - -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
, we have got a few pick in for Mr Mitchell Robinson
@Statmachine Looks like there is info floating out there that he was never fully processed at WKU. If WKU then denied his application it would be like he never went to WKU at all and he would be immediately eligible at KU. Probably helps that the WKU president is Tim Caboni who worked at KU for awhile before going back home to his alma mater when the previous president retired.
Looooookin like Mitchell Robinson is gonna suit up in crimson and blue this year.
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If Robinson signs with us, and is immediately eligible, we win the national championship this year.
I think this weekend could be a good one?
No matter what if you mix Robinson in the rotation he will make an impact. Who in a million years would have thought KU would have three McDonalds all American's in our front court? A McDonalds all American point Guard and 2 seniors in the back court. With Vick and Garrett BOTH impact players and both could start on any team in the country. Then our scouting team is top notch with our transfer pipeline! This could be the perfect storm guys?
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LSU no longer recruiting Mitchell Robinson. Announcing his decision this weekend after KU visit - if eligible, would be quite the pickup.
@Statmachine It fixes the one glaring weakness this roster had.... It's pretty much perfect.
Just me assuming, but more likely than not LSU just couldnt' find a way to make room for him. And no sense kicking someone off the team for a guy who may or not be eligible. I would have seriously questioned LSU's coach and his morales if he was willing to take that big of a risk with both the lockerroom and personnel.
Someone on a UK board said this lol "Soon the (transfer) death star will be fully operational."
I also found this "Per marble mouth:
LSU no longer recruiting him.
Also another new wrinkle, he may not have been fully processed in at Western Kentucky. So all the Dean would have to do is reject his application and it's like he was never there. Would be able to play right away at KU.
And that Dean is former high level brass at Kansas. "
I wonder if that is really how this plays out?
@Statmachine I mean depends on if he got credit, or aid. I think that the fact he purposely skipped the trip to Costa Rica trip will help him a lot. The fact that he changed his mind before the Fall school year started should help as well.
The more I look at it, my best guess would be that the NCAA will rule him ineligible for the Fall and let him play starting in the Spring. They can't just let him play right away, for fear of future precedent. But they also would catch a ton of backlash if they don't let him play at all this year. Seems like a win-win for all parties involved.
@Statmachine ya I saw that - -these guys, man - -another yesterday was talking about what criteria he would have to meet - -sexually assaulting a woman on the KU campus - -you talk about total lack of class. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer54 The name calling and stones they are throwing are unreal on some of the UK boards! I mean calling KU shady is one thing coming from WSU but coming from UK its like WOW? They are jealous as ever and I find it entertaining as H. E. double hockey stick's!
Lol UK fans. Because world wide Wes never did anything for Cal. Loooool I'm dying here.
Gotta love it, but makes me curious. With Devon being from Charlotte NC - - why wasn't Duke - - North Carolina Or NC State a far as that goes kind of curious how these schools wasn't involved a lot more. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
The stache for Mitchell Robinson. Yeah, I'll do that.
@jayballer54 Dotson is actually from Chicago originally. :)
KUSTEVE said:
If Robinson signs with us, and is immediately eligible, we win the national championship this year.
Not an unreasonable prediction. No one would 1. have more size than us 2. there would not be a talent gap between us and any other team 3. the inside outside balance could be just as good if not better than 08 4. we could play a half court game better because we have more height and an additional shot blocker. Even if he only can play for the spring semester, no question he would make a big difference for us and may well be the reason we win it all.
@jayballer54 Well UNC got some early commits and Duke has some heavy leans like Tre Jones.
I can see the NCAA not wanting to set a precedent but if there is a loophole or a technicality that would allow him to play, there is not much the NCAA can do about it either.
KU can say that it spent $100K to get Diallo qualified and this time they will do the same but will ask the NCAA to pay for all the expenses KU incurs if it prevails and if there is a legal loophole or technicality KU can use the NCAA will back off.
@JayHawkFanToo Yea I mean there is probably so much already going on behind the scenes. I would love to have access to documents that KU's lawfirm probably has access to from prior NCAA rulings.
I guess at this point, I wouldn't be surprised about his eligibility in any capacity. I do think that there is probably one hell of an argument to be made.
NCAA has lost several cases in court in the past though. Probably best to save themselves an embarrassment and let the kid play. NCAA came to a pretty quick ruling after Diallo hired a lawyer and threatened legal action. I'm sure KU learned from that situation.
@Statmachine Even UK recruits can't repel transfer firepower of that magnitude!!
I'm not so sure KU would be the empire in that analogy, though. UK seems a little more empire-y to me and KU seems more rebel-ish. And Cal is definitely the Emperor. He just needs some robes and a hood.
@KirkIsMyHinrich Where does K fit in?
Somewhere in the prequels. Coach K and Duke aren't in the original trilogy. Most of Duke's success has come recently with K (as compared to the longer histories of KU and UK).
Edit: And I'm referring to the order in which the films were made rather than the chronology of the Star Wars universe.
LSU fans are bitter.
Probably all the losses to Alabama taking their toll.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Somewhere in the prequels.
K is Darth Maul.
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Oh wait, It might be Laettner....
Does anyone trip anyone in Star Wars? If so, we know who Grayson is.
It's a trip!
Well I'm seeing where some other schools picking up some CB'S for my boy Emmit Williams - - -Damm -Hell even Oklahoma state has got some, Florida pick up some so now according to that we are bringing up the rear again.
I'm just curious, I wonder if the strong possibility of us maybe landing Robinson plus having Lawson on the horizon is steering him away? - -I know Williams and Robinson don't play the same position but still just curious. - - - And whz up with Oklahoma State where the hell they coming from on this? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer54 Okie Lite hired on an assistant with big time AAU ins. Same reason they lead for McCormack.
At the end of the day I don't think Williams is a Jayhawk.
Not for lack of trying from KU. Good chance he doesn't leave the state. I also don't think he wants to go anywhere to sit on the bench which he would be doing at KU.
@BShark I have to disagree with ya there, if Emmit came here he wouldn't be sittin the Bench or at least not for any long stretch by any means - to much of a talent sorry.- - -he may not start but he sure not going to riding the bench for very long periods. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I mean not starting, and he definitely would not start. Dedric will start next year.
I would bet on Dedric playing 30+ minutes next year unless he messes it up with off the court crap. If KU gets Williams I will be happy, pleasantly surprised.
Read on other site that we offered Dontarius James to lure Zion Williamson. Is this old news?
@approxinfinity ya heard that awhile back when we started pulling oredicts for Zion - -Coach Self been getting Lit up pretty good for doing so from opposing Teams - in particular Kentucky, talking about how smudgy it was You know those guys lol - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer54 well hold on, remember back when we were recruiting DeAndre Daniels out of IMG Academy and offered his lesser known teammate Jamari Traylor? We know how that worked out for Jamari.
approxinfinity said:
@jayballer54 well hold on, remember back when we were recruiting DeAndre Daniels out of IMG Academy and offered his lesser known teammate Jamari Traylor? We know how that worked out for Jamari.
I believe Christian Garrett was taken as a walk-on to help get Daniels.
Googled and yes: http://www2.kusports.com/news/2015/mar/01/man-faith-basketball-bible-study-highlight-senior-/ ↗
It was hoped KU would also land Garrett’s best friend, IMG Academy’s DeAndre Daniels, who ultimately decided to attend UConn and now plays overseas.
Self says the bottom line is he has thoroughly enjoyed working with Garrett, who also was an IMG teammate of KU junior Jamari Traylor.
“Christian has been great for our team, great for our program,” Self said. “He’s been a great ambassador and representative of what we’re trying to do. He is our spiritual leader, without question. Although I haven’t been to one of his services, I’ve listened to him many times within the confines of our team.”
Well not that this comes as any surprise but just read where Bagley is going to announce where is committing to tomorrow night at 10:00 p.m. on ESPN. - -Not that surprises us at all as we knew he wasn't landing here, and since he didn't make a visit to KU or Kentucky.
I had thought he was a Duke commit, but a good point was brought up, as he will also discuss his re-classification - - -Duke starts school at the end of August I believe while UCLA doesn't starts a little later, it says they offer something the other schools don't - - quarters - which would help him get what he needs for re- classification - -so anyways there you go, NO SUPRISE - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Just saw that about Bagley too. Does Duke even have an open scholly? Curious if anyone knows what their situation is.
Just went back to check on Bagley for sure, the thing UCLA can offer that the other schools cant' - - quarters. - - -Bagley is still taking classes to finish degree - - - Duke and USC start at the end of august - - UCLA starts School in the end of September - -so he could work on finishing up classed for yet another month. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@RockkChalkk Not sure if they do or not, BUT looks like maybe UCLA might have an edge with them not Starting Class till the end of Sept, something that might make a difference for Bagley. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Scuttlebutt is Bagley to USC.
I read the three schools are Duke, UCLA and USC. Looks like he likes California so it does not look good for Duke.
Bagley to USC makes zero sense from a playing time perspective. 2 NBA forwards on their roster already.
He starts at Duke. Bolden already proved he was a project. What a saga this kid has led on
Jalen Carey tentatively coming for Late Night. I don't think he'll make it with his other visits lined up really early compared to this one.
BeddieKU23 said:
Jalen Carey tentatively coming for Late Night. I don't think he'll make it with his other visits lined up really early compared to this one.
If Dotson and Grimes commit by then (fingers crossed) he certainly wouldn't bother.
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Jalen Carey tentatively coming for Late Night. I don't think he'll make it with his other visits lined up really early compared to this one.
If Dotson and Grimes commit by then (fingers crossed) he certainly wouldn't bother.
Good point. Dotson will definitely be announcing before Carey potentially gets here. We might be out of it after that announcement
@hawkmoon2020 The comments sum it up -poorly written.
@BeddieKU23 Kind of like you watch Duke will now be out of the picture for Garland since they got Trae Jones and Duval. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Zion Griffin will visit during Late Night. Kid exploded this summer. He is already down to 4 and imo it's us or ISU. HOWEVER he is a wing and obviously KU has a shot at Barrett and KING EMPEROR ZION WILLIAMSON. Soooo, will Griffin wait? Can he commit to KU today if he really wanted to? Tough questions that I don't know the answer to.
I really like his game though, and he'd be a 4 year player.
It was kind of shocking that he cut Illinois. I think he wants Kansas. He has visits set to each school, KU is the last visit...
Oh and when I say exploded I mean he went from fringe top 200/unranked to TOP 75. Kid can hoop. ISU fans are rightfully a bit upset that KU might steal him. They even hope we land Barrett or Williamson instead. :joy:
Here is some Griffin for your viewing pleasure.
@BShark I read that it's KU - -Iowa State - -Illnois State - - -& Pitt, also read where we got the only CB right now so we are at 100%. gonna be interesting. What do we (KU ) do? - -247 lists him now at # 83.
I mean this is probably more of a sure bet but how does that effect Barrett - -Williamson? - -I mean the obvious is that it doesn't - but we are not sure of the amount of Scholi's. - - Surely be better with Barrett or Williamson - -but in reality I don't think Williamson will end here - -Barrett - -I don't know. - -what ya think? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
And there you have it boys & girls. - -Bagley re classifies & announces DUKE. - -What a surprise. lmao. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Yep not surprising. We could have used him.
approxinfinity said:
Read on other site that we offered Dontarius James to lure Zion Williamson. Is this old news?
No this is not old news we did offered James
Mitchell Robinson announces his intentions to attend KU! Or so I expected to read by now. Wtf?!? Bill must've cooled his jets by asking for a commitment he wasn't willing to make without considerable consideration.
Well Zags Blog had the little article about Zion Griffin listing his four schools and his listed visit dates. - The one thing that I read and slaps me right in the face is - - He says he doesn't have an exactly date for his commit but has a deadline date of end of September, and this is what sticks out to me he says - - UNLESS he likes a School so much and feels ready to commit on THE SPOT.
Hmmm this strikes me as we have a really golden opportunity right here, he is visiting here what I think the 15th of Sept? - -Late Night right? - -Late night has always been a big recruiting tool in the past, recruits have said repeatedly how the environment was crazy couldn't get over how loud it was. I would have to feel if he really has interest in KU then it would not surprise me in the least as a matter of fact it would stun/floor me if he didn't commit that night/ late night when he was here on his visit - taking in everything considered, he will see the crazed fans, how we love our basketball - -our team, how recruits get treated while they are here on that weekend. - ya I could very easily see him committing on the spot. - -what ya think? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
IF KU turns up the heat I think he's a Jayhawk. However is Self going to take him before Barrett and King Zion Williamson announce?
If you are referencing the article I think you are he called KU a dream come true...
Another thing is, I think ideally he is a take along with Williamson or Barrett. However...to get Williamson his friend may have to be a take...
And I mean.....
"After I take my officials, if one of the schools that I’ve already got my eye on, if they basically show me that I’m a bigger priority than what they’re saying then I’m going to make my decision toward the end of September or start of October, one of those."
Come on...
@BShark This was an article that I read of zag's blog just about an half hour ago - -just a little piece they had like three different players and talking about their schools, in this on Zionmentioned hi four schools when he was taking the visits and said If he liked the visit enough hand he was ready to commit he could commit on the spot. ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@BShark See this is one of those situations possibly as to where here we have a pretty decent player, like you have said probably a 3-4 year player that will contribute and probably constantly improve through the years, has good hops, decent shot, a player that exploded this summer and probably will continue to move up some, here he is and say he is ready to commit after his visit to KU.
Like you say do you take him right then? Or do you put him in a hold pattern and wait for one of the other two - that you have no guarantee that is going to commit to KU in the end run? - Thing being if you put him on hold and then it turns out neither Williamson or Barrett commit, your taking a chance on the kid still being there to take. - -kind of like what to do -what to do. - -a pretty dam decent player that saying wants to come right now solid pledge to commit OR take the risk - maybe he comes maybe he doesn't. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I don't think he wants KU so bad that he would hold off on committing from ISU if KU plays it too slow. You never know though. I think he'd be a great get.
You take a player like that and develop him (ala Vick) unless it severely hinders recruiting. Zion Williamson and Barret wouldn't be scared off unless there is no spot for someone's friend...
Scuttlebutt from other boards is Robinson will commit today to KU. Only about 1/4 the commitment we need depending on how the school chooses to deal with his situation..
@BShark Ya that's what I'm afraid of bud. Is he a Williamson ? - -umm no - -Is he a Barett? - -umm no - -But what he is - -is a pretty decent player looks like to me and he is headed up. I'm like yo I'm afraid if he visits and wants to commit and we try and hold off have him wait -Then ya he is gone and then who knows if we land Williamson Or Barret either one and end up zero for three.
I just think these are the kind of kids if they want to commit to us - -then we take them, solid Player sure isn't gonna hurt ya I don't think. I think we need to take him if he wants to commit. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@BeddieKU23 What do you mean only about 1/4 the commitment? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@BeddieKU23 do you think the sources are reliable? I'm seeing nothing to make me think he is moving towards that decision.
@RockkChalkk I haven't heard he was planning another visit or seeking an agent?
RockkChalkk said:
@BeddieKU23 do you think the sources are reliable? I'm seeing nothing to make me think he is moving towards that decision.
Probably not reliable. It didn't happen yesterday but could still be in the works over the next few days.
jayballer54 said:
@BeddieKU23 What do you mean only about 1/4 the commitment? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Obviously it will be exciting if he does commit but we literally have no idea how anything will play out.
If the school seeks a waiver and wins, great Robinson gambled and won, gets to play, then he's gone for the draft next spring. That's a win-win for both sides. It's the only scenario that guarantee's his scholarship is used for the benefit of the team and himself.
If the school seeks a waiver and he loses, the floodgate of possibilities exist. This is where committing is only about 1/4 the commitment we need at that point.
Committing -1/4. Sitting out the year commitment- 1/4, passes on NBA draft- 1/4, makes it through summer/fall without leaving- 1/4.
I'll give this kid major respect if he has to sit and goes through with it. I think its unexpected someone in his position and talent will do that. I hope I'm wrong
Video game society....it used to be players came out of college way more prepared for the NBA. Now everyone (not just ball players) want everything handed to them today. It's crazy! Too many pity parties for guys not making enough money straight out of college, working to the top takes a little time. Many OADs are the same - want it handed to them before they ride off into the sunset...well they're going to have to work some more to be successful and that hits some pretty hard.
I hope Robinson doesn't shy away from making a commitment to KU if KU will commit to him.
@dylans I think they are waiting on what the NCAA says whether he is eligible or not. This kid's ego is not going to allow him to sit on the bench for a year waiting to be eligible, imo. He is already being listed in mock drafts as a top 15 pick. i expect if he isn't eligible, he won't go to college at all.
@dylans Hey hey hey. That type of post doesn't belong on this topic. You want to hash out how "young people" are worthless entitled little brats today then start a topic on the politics side and I'd be glad to debate that with you. But we have generations of all ages on here and that generalization is a major insult to a lot of us.
KUSTEVE said:
@dylans I think they are waiting on what the NCAA says whether he is eligible or not. This kid's ego is not going to allow him to sit on the bench for a year waiting to be eligible, imo. He is already being listed in mock drafts as a top 15 pick. i expect if he isn't eligible, he won't go to college at all.
Can KU really go to bat for him without him being apart of KU though? I think he has to be apart of the team/university first then if he goes through the process to get a waiver and doesn't get one he either can leave or stay and train..
KUSTEVE said:
@dylans I think they are waiting on what the NCAA says whether he is eligible or not. This kid's ego is not going to allow him to sit on the bench for a year waiting to be eligible, imo. He is already being listed in mock drafts as a top 15 pick. i expect if he isn't eligible, he won't go to college at all.
From what I understand it's done to KU. He's getting backlash from his circle who wants him in the NBA next year no matter what.
Oh and Devon Dotson news... Up to top 20 (and 5 stars) on 247. Doesn't change how he is as a player, but a deserved bump imo.
BShark said:
KUSTEVE said:
@dylans I think they are waiting on what the NCAA says whether he is eligible or not. This kid's ego is not going to allow him to sit on the bench for a year waiting to be eligible, imo. He is already being listed in mock drafts as a top 15 pick. i expect if he isn't eligible, he won't go to college at all.
From what I understand it's done to KU. He's getting backlash from his circle who wants him in the NBA next year no matter what.
Oh and Devon Dotson news... Up to top 20 (and 5 stars) on 247. Doesn't change how he is as a player, but a deserved bump imo.
Dotson really upped his game this summer. There are a ton of similarities between his game and some former and current hawks!
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
KUSTEVE said:
@dylans I think they are waiting on what the NCAA says whether he is eligible or not. This kid's ego is not going to allow him to sit on the bench for a year waiting to be eligible, imo. He is already being listed in mock drafts as a top 15 pick. i expect if he isn't eligible, he won't go to college at all.
From what I understand it's done to KU. He's getting backlash from his circle who wants him in the NBA next year no matter what.
Oh and Devon Dotson news... Up to top 20 (and 5 stars) on 247. Doesn't change how he is as a player, but a deserved bump imo.
Dotson really upped his game this summer. There are a ton of similarities between his game and some former and current hawks!
He's got a lot of BIFM in his game.
@KUSTEVE Agree, the longer this goes the less chance I believe him playing at KU. I don't really think it matters to him as far as committing or not, about the NCAA. I just feel the way things have went with him, If he was going to commit to Ku he would of committed on his visit or shortly like Monday or at least yesterday, I just feel he would of committed and then if the NCAA said he had to sit - -he would just say NOPE I'll sit out and declare next year for the NBA, he goes ahead and commits IF HE WERE GOING TO and then waits, if they clear then he says cool if not he says BYE. - I just think he has decided to sit out and train for the NBA next year. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
BShark said:
KUSTEVE said:
@dylans I think they are waiting on what the NCAA says whether he is eligible or not. This kid's ego is not going to allow him to sit on the bench for a year waiting to be eligible, imo. He is already being listed in mock drafts as a top 15 pick. i expect if he isn't eligible, he won't go to college at all.
From what I understand it's done to KU. He's getting backlash from his circle who wants him in the NBA next year no matter what.
Oh and Devon Dotson news... Up to top 20 (and 5 stars) on 247. Doesn't change how he is as a player, but a deserved bump imo.
Dotson really upped his game this summer. There are a ton of similarities between his game and some former and current hawks!
He's got a lot of BIFM in his game.
Agreed, that is what I see as well
BShark said:
KUSTEVE said:
@dylans I think they are waiting on what the NCAA says whether he is eligible or not. This kid's ego is not going to allow him to sit on the bench for a year waiting to be eligible, imo. He is already being listed in mock drafts as a top 15 pick. i expect if he isn't eligible, he won't go to college at all.
From what I understand it's done to KU. He's getting backlash from his circle who wants him in the NBA next year no matter what.
Oh and Devon Dotson news... Up to top 20 (and 5 stars) on 247. Doesn't change how he is as a player, but a deserved bump imo.
So your saying it's a no go for KU right? - -If that is the case it rally doesn't surprise me. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer54 said:
BShark said:
KUSTEVE said:
@dylans I think they are waiting on what the NCAA says whether he is eligible or not. This kid's ego is not going to allow him to sit on the bench for a year waiting to be eligible, imo. He is already being listed in mock drafts as a top 15 pick. i expect if he isn't eligible, he won't go to college at all.
From what I understand it's done to KU. He's getting backlash from his circle who wants him in the NBA next year no matter what.
Oh and Devon Dotson news... Up to top 20 (and 5 stars) on 247. Doesn't change how he is as a player, but a deserved bump imo.
So your saying it's a no go for KU right? - -If that is the case it rally doesn't surprise me. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
He will announce for KU. Today or tomorrow. Likely today.
jayballer54 said:
BShark said:
KUSTEVE said:
@dylans I think they are waiting on what the NCAA says whether he is eligible or not. This kid's ego is not going to allow him to sit on the bench for a year waiting to be eligible, imo. He is already being listed in mock drafts as a top 15 pick. i expect if he isn't eligible, he won't go to college at all.
From what I understand it's done to KU. He's getting backlash from his circle who wants him in the NBA next year no matter what.
Oh and Devon Dotson news... Up to top 20 (and 5 stars) on 247. Doesn't change how he is as a player, but a deserved bump imo.
So your saying it's a no go for KU right? - -If that is the case it rally doesn't surprise me. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I think he said the opposite. Mitchell will end up at KU in spite of his family/people around him wanting otherwise
It's his circle that pushed him to WKU, which he hated. It's a difficult situation here. Recruiting is often messy and usually it never comes to the surface. When Slater posts who is running a recruitment, I tend to believe him.
Well a couple of quotes from Zion Griffin pulled off the Iowa State Board.
Concerning Iowa State from a poster: Zion says I've always liked the Big 12. Iowa State has been one of my favorite teams, I feel like they are a really good fit for me.
My deadline is the end of Sept, if everything plays out I will commit at the end of my visits. The poster said it all sounded good BUT he says then Zion had this to say about KU:
KU is one of my biggest offers, I like KU, because I grew up watching KU, and a lot of my favorite players are from there. I feel like I can definitely see myself fitting in there with them offering me and wanting me on their team. It is a " Dream come true" - -" it is one of my favorite Colleges " - - -Sounds to me with his visit coming on late night the guy is ours for the taking if we want him - got to feel really god about him. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Kid wants KU bad, but KU has to reciprocate and show he is really needed.
Should be today. I think a lot of the delay is his circle being unhappy with him committing to play a year for Self/KU and it seeming unlikely that it will be this year.
Just pass the time by watching his highlights. If he plays next year Dedric + Robinson is the best starting front court in the country PERIOD.
@BeddieKU23 Gotcha, I understand now, it's to bad that people can't honor - -understand and respect the desire the wishes of the boy, - -If he didn't really want to go to WKU in the 1st place sounds like he was just trying to satisfy everyone else no matter of his own feelings first time round. - -If I'm a parent I would want my son to be happy where he was at, not where I wanted him to be. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer54 Does anyone know why his godfather resigned? That was before Robinson started classes. The timing may hurt his family-ties argument.
It's people beyond the parents sometimes unfortunately. Especially if the kid comes from a poor background. AAU is EXPENSIVE so sometimes a handler covers the cost for, you know, reciprocation later.
mayjay said:
@jayballer54 Does anyone know why his godfather resigned? That was before Robinson started classes. The timing may hurt his family-ties argument.
Some kind of cleaning house according to WKU people. He wasn't the only assistant that left.
jayballer54 said:
@BeddieKU23 Gotcha, I understand now, it's to bad that people can't honor - -understand and respect the desire the wishes of the boy, - -If he didn't really want to go to WKU in the 1st place sounds like he was just trying to satisfy everyone else no matter of his own feelings first time round. - -If I'm a parent I would want my son to be happy where he was at, not where I wanted him to be. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I can't speak for Mitchell but your right it does seem like his situation at WKU was forced upon him instead of what he wanted. He followed Williams and Stansbury and then found out he didn't want it.
But now if we assume correctly that he's about to make the decision he wants to make and that isn't what others around him want then the situation is really not settled even if he comes here. How likely is it that the kid is going to shut those people out for good?
BeddieKU23 said:
But now if we assume correctly that he's about to make the decision he wants to make and that isn't what others around him want then the situation is really not settled even if he comes here. How likely is it that the kid is going to shut those people out for good?
It's going to be very difficult. If anyone has the panache it's a coach like Self. Would also apply to Miller, Cal, K or Roy. I think it's good that he is ending up at a blue blood with a big time coach.
@BShark Ya I hear ya bud and - -that blows, things have changed so much in my life time, things so much more complicated/ complex these days . - -When I was in School playing basketball many, many moons ago we didn't have all these shoe companies competing against one another, we had Converse - -that was it, and they was the old Cloth type high top shoes not these fancy colored or different shoe things, your right gets or can get really ugly - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Whatever happens, taking Robinson is better than an open spot on the roster.
I haven't seen that reason disclosed as of yet. Some speculate that Stansbury thought his relationship with Robinson was good enough that if he made the move to fire Williams that Mitchell would stick around anyway. Mitchell was committed to Texas A&M while Stansbury was on the staff and when he took the WKU gig and took Williams with him that is when Robinson switched.
I would speculate that Williams had some issues that could have been NCAA violation material if he was allowed to stay. You would think an assistant brought on to lure a Lottery pick type talent wouldn't be dismissed mid-summer and shortly after teams are allowed to practice etc. Sounds to me that there are some things that Stansbury doesn't want to bring attention to and just wanted to wipe his hands clean of any possible future issues.
@BeddieKU23 Ya, I hear ya, it just sounds like a real mess. - -I mean what's happened to family? - -Respect for the other, just another situation of being all about me , me, me - -Now seems like the family is just wanting/pushing towards the NBA - -soon, real soon, all about the money, money, money - -just sad. - -feel sorry for Mitchell. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG
Slater was on the Duke board talking about Emmitt Williams handler. I think its safe to say we don't have much of a chance of him switching from Nike to Adidas with him involved.
Another side note. The Duke board is completely delusional. They are still talking about Dotson like they have a chance/or were recruiting him.
@jayballer54 I misread the situation. I didn't realize his whole family was in meal ticket mode.
Mitchell Robinson will be visiting New Orleans
Jon Rothstein (<a href="/user/JonRothstein" class="mention">@JonRothstein</a>)
8/16/17, 9:49 AM
Former Western Kentucky commit Mitchell Robinson is expected to visit New Orleans today, per a source. Visited Kansas last weekend.
Former Western Kentucky commit Mitchell Robinson is expected to visit New Orleans today, per a source. Visited Kansas last weekend.
Well that's a bit of a downer.
Jerry Meyer had a video blog on Facebook earlier and I caught part of it. The highlight are.
No recent news on Robinson but if he is playing college ball at all it will be KU.
Dotson- A bigger more developed version of Frank Mason at similar stages but without the outside shot that he will develop in college.
Zion Williamson - Freakish athlete. He played very weak competition in HS and his AAU team was not very good. Many consider him a tweener and at KU he might play the 3 or the 4 like Jackson did. Being the poster boy for Adidas gives KU an advantage.
KU offers to more people than other blue blood schools and hence it looks like it misses on many but in the end it does just fine. This time around KU is well ahead and better positioned than other years.
No inside scoop at all or anything that we have not heard before.
Well then, this is something with Robinson. Guess nothing should come as a surprise at this point...
@Statmachine so is it over for us? Which school in NO?
He must not be willing to suit up for a season if he doesn't qualify this year? Bummer!
@Crimsonorblue22 University of New Orleans
@BeddieKU23 Ha, # 1 they have about as much chance of Landing Devon as there is a chance of it Snowing on the 4th of July in Tampa Florida # 2with Duval there and isn't Tre Jones a pg? signing for the coming yr - - likely not - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@BShark Well what this says to me is either quite possibly the KU staff quite possibly laid things out for him how they would have to play out such as if he wasn't cleared Robinson would have to commit to sitting and then paly a year such was the Case with Malik and quite possibly he wasn't hip to that as much, they didn't tell him what he wanted to hear, or he is just checking New Orleans because of family, aren't they close to that area? - -hmmm New Orleans/ KU - -KU/New Orleans? -close in stature huh? hmm National exposure? - - placing players in the NBA? - - -developing players? - - environment? just exactly what the hell is this kid thinking? - -this is what we want? - Sorry my Crimson & Blue showing through - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@BeddieKU23 It is? - -Do we really want this mess? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BeddieKU23 said:
this is funny now
Yeah, what a mess.
@jayballer54 probably not...
@jayballer54 Chalmette is closer to New Orleans than I am to Topeka, and I have a Topeka phone number. Just for some perspective. He could have walked there if he wanted, lol.
I'd still take him. It isn't like he is out there saying outrageous things. He doesn't appear to have any off-court issues. I think we may be reading too much into things. To me, all it seems is that his momma wants him close to home or with someone she can trust.
He doesn't feel that way. But guess who pays his cell phone bill, buys his clothes, and puts gas in his car probably... Hard to argue with your parents, even when you are right.
At least that is the way this feels to me.
Kcmatt7 said:
@Crimsonorblue22 University of New Orleans
Not Tulane? He could practice driving to the basket past their big 8 foot foam wave mascot!
It could be Tulane...if he is considering Tulane or New Orleans, then he is wanting a place where he will be the star and have guaranteed playing time, something he will not get at KU. If that is his attitude, and I am not saying it is, just thinking aloud...does KU really want him?
@JayHawkFanToo Or maybe he'd rather be near home if he ends up not getting a waiver and has to only practice before going pro. I could not begrudge him that.
@mayjay Very true. And wherever he chooses to transfer to will be the only place he can go. Makes his decision that much more important. He can't transfer a second time per NCAA rules. So by staying home he is saying that his chances are slim he receives a waiver and he wants to go pro after this season. If he commits to KU, he is saying he will be here 2 years.
Both of those things are fine. It is his choice. He should take the time he needs to figure it out, and nobody here should be upset about it. Even if it feels like a bit of a circus show.
@BShark This is getting to be more of a soap opera by the minute I mean WKU - -Now New Orleans, add this to the fact he notifies the WKU Coach that he is leaving withdrawing from WKU via a TEXT? - -really?
I'm beginning to wonder is it really worth it - -you add in the possibility even if it's a remote possibility you add let's say he tells KU staff ya I'm coming, doesn't get a waiver sits the year, works out with the team and then next year when it's time BAM he leaves without ever touching the floor and or playing a second for KU. Now whether it's the parents, relation, or some other kind of outside influence, giving him some grief/false information it's not good seem like the cons could just in the end run outweigh the pro's
One thing is for sure, If I read things right he has to make some kind of a decision one way or another pretty soon I think maybe at the latest by the end of the month, again maybe the reason he is visiting New Orleans is that he didn't hear what he was wanting to hear from Coach OR Coach didn't hear what he wanted to hear and said - - -good luck, were not going to be able to offer/help you - -I just don't see a positive news coming away from this, I think we are done with this. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@KUSTEVE YEP time to pull anchor, before all this came up it looked very likely that we would be playing with 8 starting out anyways, Coach had said that they were still looking but said it would have to fall into their lap - -well the situation fell into our lap - - just not the right situation - -time to go, didn't hurt to feel it out, we didn't lose anything, we are going to be fine either way- - -run a lot of 4 guard with the 4 we got gonna cause some real problems have the Scholi for next year cause very well might end up needing all we can get. You look at the departures/possible earlies: - - -Graham, Newman, SVI, Doke, Vick - - I just think the kid is soooooo confused/ pressured but you gonna sit and developat New Orleans/Tulane - -come on. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
JayHawkFanToo said:
It could be Tulane...if he is considering Tulane or New Orleans, then he is wanting a place where he will be the star and have guaranteed playing time, something he will not get at KU. If that is his attitude, and I am not saying it is, just thinking aloud...does KU really want him?
It's been confirmed that it's UNO he is visiting.
Also people very tied in to KU were convinced this was done and he said he would come to KU. Soooooooo I mean, I suppose like I said nothing should surprise with a kid that just abruptly left the campus of WKU w/o telling anyone.
Recruiting is a helluva drug.
trying to follow recruiting gives me a head ache lol. - -Calgon - -take me away lmao. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
You know and I know this might sound really crazy, and even though have heard nothing other then the one day and that is on Zion Williamson.
Seems to me as time goes on I have no idea why but just feeling a little better about the possibility of landing at KU. Now I don't have any new hot tips/leads to back me p on this other then what has already been talked about here, but I'm just feeling MAYBE - -things might just surprise some people.
Mainly the two reason well the obvious third but the main two - -Devon Dotson be a friend of his, still kind of odd that Devon gets added to Zion's AAU team late and they turn things around, Zion likes playing with him and says they could play together at the same place and # 2 The shoe Adias right? as we know when they stick their nose in which they do, they have some pull - -then # 3 obviously is just Coach Self and KU overall. I just wonder - -is there a legit chance? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@BeddieKU23 -Some of his actions to say the least Questionable - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
If Zion lands at KU we will know in full effect what shoe affiliation can do for a program. He is the face of Adidas.
I don't think his friendship with Devon or KU offering his teammate has as much influence as Adidas has here. As Slater pointed out both of these moves were not coincidence. They want Zion to be the face of Adidas with how big his brand already is. We are talking what Curry is to Under Armour or what Lebron is to Nike.
It doesn't hurt that KU has an unbelievable track record with athletic wings like him and is one of the premiere programs out there. KU is a safe school for him because the offense would go through him and we won't hurt his brand or draft stock unless he didn't live up to the hype.
KU certainly helped itself this summer but we'll see if we still have the same momentum whenever he decides to get serious about where he's going (which could be anywhere from fall to spring)..
Is a full scholarship too high of a price to play for a practice player if he will not be cleared and he is bound and determined to be a OAD? I would say yes.
KU can probably get some former players such as Pollard, Simien , Gooden or currently unemployed Jeff Withey to come and practice with the bigs for a lot less than the cost of a full scholarship.
BeddieKU23 said:
He could be satisfying his mother's wish by taking the visit to NO considering how close it is from home. Without trying to read too much from this its hard not to judge his actions to date
This is exactly what I was thinking. Maybe something like this happened "Mama, I've made my decision and I am going to go to KU. I'm committing for two years and it will mean an extra year in college before going to the NBA because I'm giving them my word."
"Ok, I'll support you but before you make your decision final, would you at least take a look at the local school just down the street? Please? Do it for me. This way at least you can say that you fairly considered all of the options before making this big decision in your life."
"Ok fine, I'll call coach Self and let him know what is going on and will take the visit to UNO."
Lol, just speculating but based on all of the insider tips that were floating around it would fit with the actions he is taking. Perhaps I'm just trying to cling on to any hope I can. Either way, it sure has been quite the rollercoaster.
A good speculative stance to take.
Here's another. He's visiting the local school because sitting a year isn't what he wants to do and he can train for the NBA while staying close to home. NO might see this as a win-win because A) they've never had someone of his talent on the roster (even if its to practice), 'B) helps with recruiting, C) would look good to the university if he gets drafted next year (which helps with B again).
This is definitely one of the more bizarre situations that KU has been involved with
UNO? Really, UNO? The UNO that's gone to the dance eight times? Well at least he'll be close to home and Lake Pontchartrain.
This is from a WKU person that posted on the phog. So, tfwiw but if true...
"Stansbury recruited Robinson when Stansbury was an assistant at Texas A&M. Stansbury went to WKU as head coach and he re-recruited Robinson. Stansbury also hired Shammond Williams (Robinson's Godfather) as an assistant coach. Turns out that was a mistake. SW while on staff was trying to get Robinson to go to China and play pro with SW being his agent. Stansbury found out and that is why SW resigned. By then all the talk in Robinson's ear by SW, made Robinson bolt. Huge mistake on Robinson's part. All he had to do was play one season at WKU and his future should have been secured. As for playing at WKU, with Robinson, WKU had the 8th ranked recruiting class in the nation and that did not count a couple of 4 star players that sat out last year. Anybody that is a long time basketball fan knows that WKU has a long tradition with basketball. WKU is working to get back some of that tradition.
Keep in mind that Robinson is very raw. He did not start playing basketball until his sophomore year. Talk was he did not like getting banged around in practice by bigger stronger players. That is something he is going to have to get used to if he expects to make it at the professional level. Kid actually seems to be a good kid, but was getting bad advice. His mother was pushing him to stay at WKU."
Also yeah, some sour grapes at the end there. This kid has a lot of talent and ability.
Well I'm thinking I might have found the answer to our problem with the lack of a big man depth.
After long consideration and discussing it over with the family - -I've decided I am going to enroll at KU and play for KU.
I can post them up with the best - I'm 6 ft and have the bulk 205 lbs only had 3 back surgeries and 2 knee surgeries, I know I could make it up and down the floor at least twice a game, I definitely can finish a play flushing as long as I have a sturdy step ladder and get Mitch to hold it for me - -planning on talking to Coach I'm sure he will offer, BUT on ONE condition - I have to have proof I will start lmao - -what ya think guys? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer54 you'll probably fall off the ladder and kill mitch
@Crimsonorblue22 :joy:
Confucius says: Man with broken nose must not hold ladder. :smiley:
He'll pull a Simmons, go a semester and fold.
2020 PG Bryce Thompson coming to KU for an unofficial tomorrow. Dad played for Self at Tulsa.
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@jayballer54 you'll probably fall off the ladder and kill mitch
Lmao - - -Oh - -that wouldn't be good lol, but hey I would be a great rim protector lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Heard Matt Scott say bad info on Robinson visiting NO. Not true. Who knows?
@JayHawkFanToo Well at least that isn't as bad as what Crimsonorblue said lol - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
RJ BARRETT HAS CUT KU.
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Blame Nike. Honestly since he was never coming to KU, I'm glad he cut KU now. Let's go get BOTH Zions!!! :exclamation:
Well I realize something or so it seems with Robinson, I believe Robinson either reached out to Coach Self to see about visit Or Coach Self touched base with him to see if eh would be interested in visit, Bottom line is, it sure looks like interest in KU was totally Robinson - -and not Robinson's parents - -seems like they are totally against KU being his destination. maybe I'm wrong just seems like he is/was on an island by himself as far as KU. - -IF that is truly the case - -that's really sad. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
So Matt Scott says the reports of the UNO visit were false. Eric Bossi just posted that the visit just wrapped up, i.e. that it happened with a decision expected soon. This one is hard to keep up with.
@RockkChalkk Gary bedore said he was visiting there mon, I believe. I give up
What the hell - -Oh well let's see, let me look at my cards, my fortune cookie - Oh yes very clear Mitchell Robinson will decide about where he plays sometime. - -These guys I'm tellin ya where are they getting their information from? - -Dam, aren't they surpose to have SOME KIND of in with these guys, or source? - -Sure doesn't seem to be the case. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Someone got lied to, WHAT FUN.
It down to ku and New Orleans for Mitchell Robinson
Well at least goes to show, once again Matt Scott doesn't have a clue to what he is talking about.
Read from the New Orleans- Times-Picayune this morning, that Robinson yes indeed did visit yesterday, and is reported to chose between KU & New Orleans, and the decision will be soon, although no date given.
Said he had visited KU - -LSU - -& New Orleans But sources had confirmed LSU was no longer recruiting him. This has mama written all over it, or mama and daddy wanting Mitchell to stay close to home. - I think the KU visit was purely Mitch's idea - -desire, and more likely then not will in the end run cave to the pressure of mom and dad, even though he stated he was making his own decisions now. I also just think possibly like has been mentioned, if he doesn't get the waiver, which is unlikely then chances are mom and dad have told him he can be right there at home, work and train 10 miles from home with New Orleans U & then declare the following year for the NBA and not have to leave home.
The only thing or question I would have on this is - -quite possibly mama wants him to stay close so they can watch him play, that's great but if he doesn't get the waiver what difference does it make if he is close to home anyways? - -the following year he is off to the NBA. - - Well whatever happens the guy is a stud , his Senior yr 20.9 ppg - -13.6 rpg - - & 8.1 blks pg - -that's a line to talk about - -I don't car who you are - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I get the feeling from some of his retweets that he doesn't want to wait an extra year to get his big payday. I've never been in that position so its hard to say how I would react if I was in his shoes, it has to be tough. I will say though, I was a college athlete (many years ago) and my college years were definitely some of the best years of my life. Staying an extra year in college would be far from a terrible option in my opinion.
Training for one year while being a practice guy at UNO will probably be the quickest and best way to get that big payday. However, putting in his time, developing his game, playing against top level competition at KU every day will delay the first big payday at least a year but can give him a better chance at sticking in the NBA and getting that 2nd and 3rd big payday. If he goes early I hope he makes it, its always sad to see guys go early and end up cut in a year or two.
@RockkChalkk In your day, if someone gave you a chance, even if not guaranteed, to earn millions of dollars to leave without doing college sports would you have turned it down?
This is why I think kids should be able to go through the draft and come back to school if they don't like their spot. Maybe address the Robinsons of the world by saying this is only a possibility for someone who has (1) completed a year of participation in (2) good academic standing.
College is only really needed in a handful of careers. Joining the NBA isn't one of those professions. That being said I'd sure like the kids that choose to go to college to make a multi-year commitment.
I still like the baseball rule. You can go to the MLB directly from HS but if you choose to got to college you have to wait 3 years which gives the student athlete a chance to get most of his school work done and if necessary, come back to complete the school work and get a degree.
Locke has set his OVs, KU is not one of them.
Looks like all-in on Grimes and Dotson.
Nope. Better land them though, when you take this approach.
Hey, how about that , ya I know it's 247 BUT - - -I just seen where we picked up 2 more predicts for Zion Williamson to commit here, and those two actually put out in Front for Zion 38% to Kentucky's 31%, which I guess in a way kind of makes sense now with every thing going on
With Devon being such a heavy lean towards KU and people trying to make that Connection with Devon & Zion well Zion mentioning about how good Devon is and the possibility of playing with him - -and then the whole deal with Adias , being Williamson shoe possibly them trying to get Williamson towards KU with KU as been said their biggest Blue Blood School for them, and Now With Barret re-classifying and showing a lean towards Kentucky, add those together and this is where we are at possibly.
Could you imagine a recruiting class of Dotson , Grimes , Williamson , to go along with IF Robinson did land here this yr, sit then be eligible the next year - -so you would have Grimes , Dotson , Williamson , Robinson , and the Lawsons - - all I would be able to say is - -JUMPIN GEE HOOSIE TOADS. I know a lot has to play out yet for this to happen but if it indeed turns out this way - -look out, - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer54 Love your invention of new words & phrases! "Jumpin gee hoosie toads" is dead on!
Don't get too worked up on Zeon! I have looked into him a little bit and if I had a CB pick it would be UK. I will not elaborate on how I came to that assumption but that would be my pick.
@jayballer54 Yep jb54, I would take that roster in a heartbeat. Especially when you add Garrett, Mitch, hopefully Vick, and 2 or 3 three stars with good upside potential. That would be a loaded team. We can always hope and dream.
@Statmachine If Kentucky ends up landing RJ Barrett, Williamson will not end up at Kentucky. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Read an article from Matt Tait off LJW, Matt made the statement that like we have known coming down to KU and New Orleans ( which Kentucky fans at having an absolute field day with this but Matt made the statement that he heard from a couple of places that it was looking more like a waiver might be gotten.
A poster ask him reliable sources? - To which he responded None that he could report and no one knows for sure one way or another but they were valid sources that pay close attention to these types of situations. - -Maybe he does get his wavier of eligibility for this season - - , IF he were to get his clearance for this year Matt post 3 different Scenario's with starting line ups - -this one seem to be the most logical/popular: - - Graham , Newman , Vick - -with SVI & Garret to relieve & then in the Front Court -- Robinson & Azubuike - with Preston & Lightfoot to Back up. - -That would be a pretty impressive line up 2 seven footers - -with those 3 in Backcourt - -would be sweet. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer54 My question is with both of them in the game, do we run the high/low? Is Robinson high post dude? We know Doke ain't.
Amazing how one very good player changes the complete complexion of this team.
Man, we're light in the post.
@HighEliteMajor He has some threes in his highlights but we know how deceptive highlights can be. He certainly has some skills and I don't think it would be spacing suicide to have Doke and Robinson on the floor at the same time. Hopefully this is something we actually get to discuss, come on down Mr. Robinson.
Speaking of highlights
http://www.courtsidefilms.com/news_article/show/824545?referrer_id= ↗
You know what we say around here at buckets? If the shoe fits? lol
@HighEliteMajor ya good question but I think you got it right. - -Doke would I believe for sure be the low post, as I think Robinson MIGHT have a little more outside game, also a little more fluid - -mobile, it for sure would cause some matchup head aches for some opponents.
He also list still the 4 guard with either Doke OR Robinson - -4 guards surrounding them. - Question there is which Big starting - -Doke? - -or Robinson - another dilemma lol - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@BShark It does appear as though Robinson has a good outside shot and he is also mufh quicker and more nimble than Dok. It would really depend on who the opponent is and if Robinson moves laterally well defensively. For a tall team like Kentucky or Arizona this would work well.
@HawkChamp One thing for sure, could you imagine if it ends up Robinson does come and sticks - - Coach would have so many different line ups he could run out - -the 4 guard and what a 4 they are all can shoot the hell out of the ball - -OR you could go hi-low with Robinson & Doke an I'm sure a lot of other combo's mix and match - -would be very interesting trying to watch teams match up with us. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer54 I saw that too. Kind of seems like he has burned the bridge but who knows. I think Self should take a gamble here and not require Robinson to stay for a second year, if hd hasnt already. We have nothing to lose and everything to gain.
@HawkChamp Well I just now read another article from Mat Tait from the L J W. - -It is becoming kind of clear, this is a kid that likes attention, a kid that has no idea what he wants , and a very confused kid. - Just like I mentioned Matt headline was is there a new contender for Robinson and yes it was WKU.
Even though it was some guy off twitter goes by @ Barstool Western, it is a twitter account that has 6,000 followers a person who tracks KKU sports closely, and says sources confirmed that Robinson is SERIOUSLY considering return to WKU.
Put that on top of the fact that Robinson is now Re-tweeting a lot of WKU tweets, they taking a poll if they would take him back if he wanted to return, he has re- tweeted a lot on WKU
Even though with me being as biased - -pro Jayhawk, and would love the guy - -well maybe not as much now - -kind of seems like a head case at least to some extent , the most logic would seem ya, probably would be best to go back to WKU. he would play immediately, not have to worry about any waver -not have to worry about sitting out, get to play this year, play for the year then declare , I just think he is finding out chances are he is going to have to sit, and won't be cleared, so his best shot is to go back. - I think Bill probably said - -look if we invest our time, the School's money to get you or try and get you cleared - -you gonna have to give me a 2 year commitment and that's NOT what he wanted to hear, so he is going to other options, and about the only other option is to go back. - My thinking now is - -just go back to WKU - - & KU let's move on Coach precede like you had planned be for this debacle . - -Tired of playing the what if game with this kid. - We was fine before he came up - -we'll be fine after - - -Time to lift the Anchor and set sail. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Well one thing I found out for sure, this will all be over by the 28th of August. Will he drag it out that long? - -who knows But has to be done by the 28th.
August 28th: LAST day to register for a full time course load( 12 or more hours for undergraduates, and 9 or more for graduates )
August 28th: Full Semester classes:-Last day to add a class , last day to drop a class without a grade. Last day to change a class from audit to credit , Last day to receive 100% refund for a class.
Looks like if anything is going to get done , it has to be by the 28th , hope fully it will be over before that so we can move on. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer54 said:
Well one thing I found out for sure, this will all be over by the 28th of August. Will he drag it out that long? - -who knows But has to be done by the 28th.
August 28th: LAST day to register for a full time course load( 12 or more hours for undergraduates, and 9 or more for graduates )
August 28th: Full Semester classes:-Last day to add a class , last day to drop a class without a grade. Last day to change a class from audit to credit , Last day to receive 100% refund for a class.
Looks like if anything is going to get done , it has to be by the 28th , hope fully it will be over before that so we can move on. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
It's pretty much a hard deadline, lol.
http://247sports.com/Player/Samuell-Williamson-46043096 ↗
Kid to keep an eye on. His offer sheet is kinda funny right now but growing. Has potential and a couple good weekends this summer. Long/tall and still growing. I think he'd be a good 4 year player. His mom and older brother both graduated from KU.
He retweeted one thing about his KSU offer, about 8 for OU offer visit and 50 million about KU. :joy:
BShark said:
He retweeted one thing about his KSU offer, about 8 for OU offer visit and 50 million about KU. :joy:
lol, seems pretty regular thing. - We have all kinds that re-tweet things about us, but when it comes to committing? - -ummm nope, not so much - just like to be on twitter lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer54 said:
BShark said:
He retweeted one thing about his KSU offer, about 8 for OU offer visit and 50 million about KU. :joy:
lol, seems pretty regular thing. - We have all kinds that re-tweet things about us, but when it comes to committing? - -ummm nope, not so much - just like to be on twitter lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Ehhh, some players not so much, maybe just retweet the offer and a couple things. This kid is a legacy with multiple family members that have graduated from KU, and he is talented. Not sure he could commit today but you can bet the staff is keeping tabs on him this season.
@BShark Maybe ok he has family member that went to Ku, but we have had others that had family members that went to KU also, doesn't mean as much anymore I don't think - -Shoe contracts mean a lot more we have seen that before - things have got twisted somewhere along the ways, to many outside influences. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer54 said:
@BShark Maybe ok he has family member that went to Ku, but we have had others that had family members that went to KU also, doesn't mean as much anymore I don't think - -Shoe contracts mean a lot more we have seen that before - things have got twisted somewhere along the ways, to many outside influences. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Lol. His situation is much closer to Marcus Garrett than an elite recruit with multiple handlers.
Looks like an honest recruitment here tbh.
After DeAndre Ayton picked Arizona over KU no prospect is a lock until he sign the LOI and even then things can happen and the prospect might never play. He only sure thing is that there is no sure thing.
So our late night list stands at 9 right now, we don't want to get too many, can't give that one on one attention as much but they are: Jalen Carey - - -Quentin Grimes - - Zion Griffin- - Malik Hall- - Zach Harvey- - Jeremiah Robinson- - Samuell Williamson- - Ty Berry- - & N'faly Dante.
I know Harvey has been to multiple late nights plus games, & Jeremiah Robinson I believe also has been to multiple late nights - -but 209 recruits which we have to keep the hammer down on cause I think they are ours for the taking, all we have to do stay in contact both nice players.. - -I think things could be sitting up pretty nice for us in the next couple of years, think our chances with Chandler Lawson obviously are pretty strong we shall see - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Carey might not make it. The rest though, are all high targets for the most part. Dante is gonna be unreal. Hope he ends up at KU.
JRE looks like a top priority, and rumoured to be a silent commit. Dunno as much about Harvey.
I've come to a conclusion and that is, the reason Robinson hasn't made any announcement about where he is committing is BECAUSE he isn't committing anywhere. I think the longer this goes without some kind of announcement means just more likely he just going to sit and Train and then Declare for the NBA, probably really doesn't want to mess with going to class, so just not enroll anywhere and just workout, - -looking like to me that's what's going to happen, time runnin out. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
He might be best served to just go back to WKU. shrug
@BShark ya, actually that would be the obvious choice, the thing is, the kid should of thought about this kind of scenario before leaving in the 1st place. - -left pretty hastily , lack of better judgement on how he left- - I mean come on , you text your Coach and tell them? - -That's not really the classiest way to do things. This won't happen BUT with that being said , it would suck if WKU refused to let him come back, the Coach could say uh - -NOPE you made your choice.
How's that going to settle with the other players at WKU? more then likely no biggie BUT you just never know for sure, you always might have that other player with the train of thought like WTH? but anyways that would be the best scenario for him. - -Not have to worry about any waiver, be eligible to play this year and then next year declare for the NBA. - -Again he is going to do some suckin up to WKU to be allowed back, some kind of stipulations or discipline I would think if he wanted back. - -Again texting to say your pullin out? lack of class. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Lol. actually kind of amuzing, the day after Coach Self says doesn't think we will be adding anybody to our current roster - -according to 247 our chances for landing him went up lmao. - -We were at 40% - -40% - now 50% - -30% what a circus with these predictors. Not sure if any of them have any idea - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Just out of boredom, went to WKU board, they roasting Robinson pretty good for the most part, saying he was using WKU as a last resort - how he would have to really kiss up to come back Stansbury needed to suspend him for a period and how he would have to be accepted by the players, how he shouldn't get special treatment
I guess classes start there tomorrow? I dunno said it would come to a head for them Monday - -I still now feel he is just going to sit and train and then declare. - -we know this he isn't coming here. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Well Read that David McCormack had a great in-official visit to KU , I thought it was an official, now I know he was in thick from what I heard with Duke at one point anyways, he is listed as the # 2 center in the class of 2018 - -but if he took an un-official here the kid must be at least some what interested, spending his own dime, OKlahoma St has the edge according to 247 right now - -but he said he loved the Campus here and the facilities, Article said even though he has none sit up yet wouldn't be surprised to see him turn around and schedule an official.
Also saw where Emmit Williams listed his top 7: - - LSU , Org , Duke , Mia , KU , USC , & Florida. - -Some don't feel he will end up here , this is another kid I've jumped on board sometime back and feel like we have a legit shot, would love to land him, Time will tell. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Just saw Robinson isn't playing college ball
@jayballer54 Would love to see Williams become a Jayhawk. Nike and his handler make it a tough one. He'd be a great Jayhawk and a great fit in general. He'd absolutely find minutes. Has the kind of energy you just can't teach.
McCormack would be a good add. Almost certainly not a OAD, but can be super productive at this level. KU should get an official later on. Williams is a total freak show. 11/10 athlete and motor, and because of his size (maybe 6'7?) he won't be in a hurry to bolt either.
McCormack and Williams would be a hell of a post class.
@FarmerJayhawk you are right on about Williams - - loved this kid for awhile, I got guys I latch too, most here know I've been a huge Devon Dotson guy for some time - -I feel the same about Williams like you say he is an absolute freak and has THAT EDGE, wants to destroy the rim, just has this certain game attitude you have to love, would be a really sweet pickup. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
McCormack and Williams would be a hell of a post class.
they would make a sweet duo, that's for sure. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I was not a top 10 player in basketball so I would not know how difficult is to make this type of decision; I imagine pretty darn difficult. Also, think back when you were 18 years old, how good was your decision making? Mine (and I suspect most of us) was not that good so I will cut the kid a break.
If he decides to go back to WKU, I am sure they will take him back,. In today's environment you just don't say no to that kind of a talent.
jayballer54 said:
Well Read that David McCormack had a great in-official visit to KU , I thought it was an official, now I know he was in thick from what I heard with Duke at one point anyways, he is listed as the # 2 center in the class of 2018 - -but if he took an un-official here the kid must be at least some what interested, spending his own dime, OKlahoma St has the edge according to 247 right now - -but he said he loved the Campus here and the facilities, Article said even though he has none sit up yet wouldn't be surprised to see him turn around and schedule an official.
Also saw where Emmit Williams listed his top 7: - - LSU , Org , Duke , Mia , KU , USC , & Florida. - -Some don't feel he will end up here , this is another kid I've jumped on board sometime back and feel like we have a legit shot, would love to land him, Time will tell. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Williams list is all Nike but KU.. Nike running his recruitment
Rankings update at ESPN.
Grimes #13, Dotson up to #26 which is just outside 5 star territory.
Zion #2 behind Barrett.
Others: Langford #5 (way too high after his summer and being cut from Team USA)
Keldon Johnson up to 7, seems high but ESPN is guessing he ends up at Kentucky so they can pump up their class.
Emmitt Williams #20, McCormack up to #33 (probably still a bit under-ranked), Jalen Carey flew up to #34 (going to suck seeing him play somewhere else), Jermaine Harris #85, PF who will visit in Early October.
They are all performing the UK bump in advance with Keldon. :joy:
I can't see Harris going anywhere but WVU.
This should be a good class for KU.
@BeddieKU23 No Zion Griffin, hmm
Also, saw somewhere that Dotson has a scheduled visit this weekend at KU, could we see our first big commit of the year in just a few days from now? I hope so!
@RockkChalkk Ya he has had his visit scheduled, coming on the 25th, still gonna be interesting as to if he can help us pull Zion with him - -the shoes may be a big lure too seems to be playing out that way. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
RockkChalkk said:
@BeddieKU23 No Zion Griffin, hmm
They probably still don't know who he is. A quick search of their database and he's not even in it.
Will affect his composite score but 247 definitely took notice of him and has him ranked where he should be.
RockkChalkk said:
Also, saw somewhere that Dotson has a scheduled visit this weekend at KU, could we see our first big commit of the year in just a few days from now? I hope so!
Yeah I think we see him announce pretty soon after the visit
@BeddieKU23 I'd almost be surprised if he visits anywhere else. More time for him to work on Zion! Who I think is a UK/KU battle right now. Duke seems to have moved to Reddish (lock) and Barrett, who's pretty open to any school with a check mark.
FarmerJayhawk said:
@BeddieKU23 I'd almost be surprised if he visits anywhere else. More time for him to work on Zion! Who I think is a UK/KU battle right now. Duke seems to have moved to Reddish (lock) and Barrett, who's pretty open to any school with a check mark.
I agree, especially if the info that Dotson to KU has been a done deal for weeks now. It's also important that he didn't schedule any other visits after KU's either like the Florida trip that has been mentioned so often. I get the feeling this one is a wrap!
Yeah Reddish to Duke has been done since forever.
I think your right about Zion.
I think Barrett ends up at Kentucky even though he grew up a Duke fan I see Reddish being in his way as they play the same position
@BeddieKU23 Me To, remember how this has been my guy for so long? - -Others were more with Grimes, and I said I like Dotson, don't get me wrong Grimes is a stud too, but I'm just tingly all over lol - - well not really but you know what I mean - -If it comes to pas like I /we are all feeling it will make my day for sure, even more so after I got to watch him in some games.
The kid is fearless seems to me taking it to the hole, and maybe it's just me but dam he seems like he is quick. - -I would love to get Grimes also Dotson our Pg - -Grimes as a shooting guard and I feel we have a pretty dam good chance of that happening too - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@BeddieKU23 I think Barrett written all over him. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Yup Dotson is your boy! I'm high on him as well. I've been on the Dotson/Grimes duo for a while. That has been my prediction since the spring. We'll see whether we get both or not.
From a 247 article
Moses Brown, the No. 2 ranked center in the 2018 class by the 247Sports Composite, appears focused on Louisville, Maryland and Kansas and the No. 2 rated center in the 247Sports Composite has official visits scheduled with the Cardinals and Terps next month.
A five-star center from New York, Brown is scheduled to make his visit official visit to Louisville September 1-2, his coach, Mike McCleary, told InsideTheVille Wednesday.
“I assume since they offered him a visit so early the like him a lot,” McCleary said. “It’s his first visit so I think that means a lot. For him it was difficult to decide who he wanted to visit.”
Brown also has an official visit set with Maryland for Sept. 28.
“Coach Bino (Ranson) has been the most consistent and worked the hardest when it came to recruiting him,” said McCleary. “He’s stayed close to him (Brown) the whole time and I know that meant a lot to Moses.”
“I don’t have a feel which way he’s leaning,” McCleary said. “It’s really up to the visits to figure out which place he fits in best.”
McCleary said he thinks Brown will also set up a visit to Kansas.
“Past that I’m not sure (if he’ll visit other programs),” McCleary said.
BeddieKU23 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
@BeddieKU23 I'd almost be surprised if he visits anywhere else. More time for him to work on Zion! Who I think is a UK/KU battle right now. Duke seems to have moved to Reddish (lock) and Barrett, who's pretty open to any school with a check mark.
I agree, especially if the info that Dotson to KU has been a done deal for weeks now. It's also important that he didn't schedule any other visits after KU's either like the Florida trip that has been mentioned so often. I get the feeling this one is a wrap!
His dad is saying the right things publicly but if the UF visit never happens, that's great.
@BeddieKU23 Fingers crossed for both - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Well if he follow the visits for Brown and quotes doesn't sound like KU has much of a chance here..
Hopefully he visits.
Weird recruitment. I think he was hoping for a UK offer.
From the sounds of it he wanted Duke as well.
I think the media wanted to make him better then he is. He's got a lot of potential that a College team could untap, the big question mark being how motivated he'll be to develop and how long he'll stay.
For KU I'd take McCormack over him because he's really improved a ton in the last year and David will come into College ready physically to hold up in the post. The work Oak Hill's coach has done with him is a big reason he's now pushing the upper echelon of 4 star status.
Regardless I hope Moses visits as well. never hurts to get a top big on campus in a class that has limited options in the post.
Well and the trend just keeps rolling. Which is a good thing for us I hope. - -Saw where we just picked up another CB for Zion Williamson about an hour ago a guy named Ted Hyman now takes us to 43% to Kentucky 29% keep your fingers crossed guys, maybe Zion will be the latest of the mega studs to come follow Wiggs, & Jackson would be great. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Just some more information tidbits. Really funny UK board starting to panic some now about Williamson, and of course coming out with the shots: - - - Why ANYONE would choose KU over UK, and then you have this - - -poster says if Williamson chooses to come to KU over UK he needs his head examined, and another poster responded - more like check mama's bank account instead of his head. Of course saying we will be fine talking about there is other players Cal wants more or their are better, you gotta love it. - -Paranoia starting to sit in.
Also mentioned this made me have to go check and yes turned out they were right, and yes I like all others know or most should know, but anyways Quickley has cut his list to three Schools Kentucky - - -KU - - & Miami. - -again I'm not that naïve but just throwing this out for conversation IF - -IF - -IF Quickley chose KU and there has also been a lot of talk about Williamson and Quickly wanting to play together, but IF he chose , we all know that NO way all three end up here Quickley - - Grimes - - Dotson, so question is would we rather take Grimes/Dotson dual and Quickley not commit here? I say YES I will take the combo of Grimes?Dotson and then - -I feel we have as good of shot landing Williamson with Dotson as we would with Quickley and Williamson which is probably happening anyways Quickley goes to Kentucky, I'll take my chances with Dotson pulling Williamson, although Quickley was seen wearing an Adidas shirt.
Boy just full of it today guys. read about McCormack's visit to KU: - he said It's a great environment , and that he really enjoyed myself there, KU told him that KU was probably going to be losing their top 6 players , saying Preston would be gone, Graham would be gone, McCormack said he hadn't set any officials yet and doesn't know how many he was going to take.
He said even though he hadn't set up any visits that there is a lot about KU that appeals to him. " History " - -McCormack said it's literally the history of Basketball, with James Naismith the creator of Basketball, that KU has had the 1st great Basketball coach at Ku.
Saying KU has a legendary program, KU has done well at developing players at his position, KU is a winning program, Getting to play Allen Fieldhouse, and KU winning 13 straight Big 12 titles that produces pro's.
McCormack says that KU - - Duke - -Xavier - -G'Town - -UCLA - -NC State - -Georgia Tech - -& Texas are the schools recruiting him the hardest.
Asked what he was looking for in a School he said he relationship with the Coach, Being able to play through mistakes, and being able to develop his game, He says conditioning and Development is important as well as his major, he wants to major in Communications or Journalism, he wants to go into sports broadcasting.
He said History also plays into it as far as the Coach being a good Coach and how the School develops players. Guys the more I'm starting to see, I think this could shape up to be a pretty good year for us if things play out right. - -Sounds like this kid is pretty smart kid, knows his stuff, knows what he wants. - Sounds like he is really interested. He says he has no timetable for his commitment but does want to cut his list, hoping to do so soon. I think our chances may be better then some think - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
2018 Big Silvio de Sousa is on a visit to KU now. Haven't heard KU linked with him much, though we did offer him in May. He's going to be a really, really good college big. Huge frame and a great athlete.
@FarmerJayhawk Fascinating. I've not really seen him mentioned with KU either and he is believed to be a Maryland lean. So, he is visiting with Dotson then? That can't be bad for KU...
Does Maryland have room for him if they take Moses Brown? Food for thought.
@FarmerJayhawk He's got Bill Self big written all over him. 6'8 in shoes with a 6'10 wingspan. Doesn't remind us of anyone in particular at all...
Seems like it's an official visit. Also even if he doesn't come to KU, this was great just for what it's doing to the Maryland 247 board right now.
@approxinfinity Love that little guy. he was a GREAT player for KU.
Jalen Hoard to Wake Forest
Good for Danny. Really good pickup.
Sounds like Self hosted Dotson and De Souza at his home at some point yesterday. Haven't heard many other details of the visit yet though.
RockkChalkk said:
Sounds like Self hosted Dotson and De Souza at his home at some point yesterday. Haven't heard many other details of the visit yet though.
Yep, Zags put this out there.
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Dotson is still in Lawrence on a visit that started Friday so it's probably going quite well. Felt like a confirmation visit going in to hopefully that's the case and he commits to KU w/o taking another visit.
Ok, so now I have questions. This Silvio De Souza has kind of caught me by surprise as I'm sure has many others. So ya I know probably not that big of deal, no reason to try and make more out of it then what it is right? - - Understand, BUT I still have questions , or thoughts. Did Dotson talk him into coming along? Some say this is an official - -some say it's an un official . Question is did Coach get sneaky, slide this one in under the microscope? Coming out of left field? - -Hadn't really heard much talk about him, didn't think we were anywhere in the picture on his recruitment - - or ARE we?
So what do we really know about him? - Well we know he is like # 31? - off 247 site - -listed as a 6'9 power forward - - -thing is like I said Just haven't heard hardly any scuttlebutt concerning him. - - So don't trip about his visit? - -OR is this a kid we should start paying more attention too? - -What's his game like? - - Who has anyone heard who his school's of interest are-? - -Again just haven't heard much if anything at all ads far as we go anyways - - yet if you look at the Schools of interest off 247 it list the ever so popular warmer warm status and it shows ONLY KU & Maryland as the two teams of that kind of interest. - -So if we truly aren't on his radar and serious consideration then why is Maryland having baby cows about us ?
Ok having said that let's play the what if game once again - -What if we land Zion Williamson as a Small forward - - -Land Silvio De Souza as a Power Forward- - - -Quinton Grimes to play a shooting guard - - & Devon Dotson to run the point, if that came to play I would have to say that would be a pretty dam good recruiting season - -So fill me in whz up with this visit? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
De Sousa's recruitment is very, very quiet so it's not a surprise this didn't leak beforehand. There are two factors working for Maryland here. First is the IMG/Under Armour connection. Second is his close relationship with Terp freshman Bruno Fernando. Both are Angolan and would love to play together. De Sousa is a physical specimen. Large frame, and great athlete. T-Rob isn't a bad comp at the same age. What I don't know is how much KU is actually in it. Like I said, this is a very quiet recruitment and not a lot is going to get out.
Interesting visit. De Sousa was a bit higher in the rankings earlier this year but from what I saw and read he didn't have the greatest summer. He's still a talent that any program would be happy to have but wonder if he plateau'd a bit in his development because he was a 5 star prospect for a long time.
I'm going to need for you to sign on the dotted line, sir. Enough teasing- I need some commits.
Finally something on Dotson. Maybe someone can post the link, i'm not very good with that stuff but the article I read said he thought the visit went well. He and Silvio watched the boxing fight at Self's house with some of the players on the team. Biggest highlights of the article:
Well guys, not really sure how to take this, I find it a little un settling maybe, Devon Dotson talked about his visit to KU & future plans:
Dotson says they watched the fight at Coach's house with De Souza & some of the current team. Dotson said he talked with De Souza saying he is a great player and were talking about teaming up, just playing together would be fun to play with him.
As far as KU Dotson says Coach Self has made me a priority, wants to put the ball in my hands, just be in attack mode & run the show, Coach Self thinks I'm the top point guard in the Nation, so he believes in me a lot.
Now the little bit of un-settling part - - -Florida. Dotson says about Florida: Their need for a point guard & great relationship they have been talking since fresh year & the relationship & trust the belief in me.
Then on top of that even more a little disturbing was that he hasn't set up any more visits but might take some, kind of frustrating because I thought this was pretty much a two team race - - not so sure now.
UCLA has recently gotten involved sayin their freshman Jaylen Hands could follow Lonzo Balls steps. Dotson saying that UCLA'S producing a ton of point guards that is definitely is appealing to him. Alford trying to set up a date for an in home and then Dotson says might take an official there.
Then there is Clemson, who he says is in the mix - -Clemson? - - Clemson? - - maybe take an official visit, gotta figure out the dates. Hopes to decide before the basketball season. - -was hoping for a little better outcome from his visit. - Now really don't know what to think. - -I'm not worried about Clemson BUT Florida? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
McCormack has his final 6: Xavier - - KU - - -Okla St- - - -UCLA - - -NC State - - -& Duke.
Had to say about his visit to KU: - -Great environment at KU, really enjoyed himself there, told probably KU would be losing their top 6 , so McCormack will be able to play inside and out. - - KU would be able to take advantage of what I can do. - -we shall see , ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Dotson to HCBS, "Coach I want to commit, but I've got some free vacations lined up on the coasts..."
Jumpin Jee Hossa Fits have some faith!
Sucks he'll take another visit but it shows good character as well to follow through with what you say. Florida has recruited him a long time and they probably feel obligated to visit and give them a chance seems how they have invested a ton of time recruiting Devon as well. As far as UCLA its all part of the recruiting game.
His dad had been adamant that he wouldn't commit on or shortly after the visit. Looks like they are sticking too that. I still think KU is very well positioned.
McCormack is coming back for an official on Late Night.
@BeddieKU23 Lmao, for sure buddy keep those fingers crossed. - -In all reality your right I mean if I'm the athlete no matter who I thought or where I seriously thought I was going to commit to - -why not take ALL FIVE official visits enjoy the process , ya know. - -Even if I really thought I was committing to KU I'd still probably take my other visits, and then if be some weird happening what if I did like one of my other visits better. In the End run I deep down still feel he commits here, even though never say never to Florida. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Well, read where Louis King has us in his final 6. Ranked # 14 by 247 small forward out of Hudson New Jersey, 6'8
His final 6 are: Maryland, Seton Hall, U Conn, Oregon, Syracuse, Purdue, NC State & KU. - -Even though Kentucky had been recruiting him he was never offered Looks like Oregon might have become the team to beat out for him now. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
The biggest development with King is that he wanted UK, played for Cal during Team USA ball and didn't get an offer. So now he goes to his other options. I don't think KU is seriously in it for him at this point. Zion is the priority
BShark said:
McCormack is coming back for an official on Late Night.
Some very positive news there. Seems KU has become a much bigger option for him then we might have thought. The Duke interest seems to be lukewarm at best right now and other then Oklahoma St hiring his AAU coach to lure him aboard KU has gotten the unofficial and now will get the official coming up.
Hmmm, this might have people guessing what it is. Read off UK Board, the thread was Huge Recruiting News Coming? Poster showed where " Fran Frischilla , stated Hearing something seismic on the recruiting front coming, but I'm not a story breaker. Going to sit back & see what happens Seismic.
With that said very interesting what UK people were guessing, but the two most popular Was Bagley not being cleared to play at Duke this year - -then we have talk of package deal to announce commitment - - Bagley probably not right cause as was brought up Fran said on the recruiting front - - Bagley is not a recruit any longer.
Then gets interesting UK fans wetting all over themselves lol. -Some saying a lot of hoopla from Fran for single recruit being Seismic. Then the talk became pretty popular responses - -Zion Williamson to KU in one form/shape or another. By himself - - -Package - - -Multi package lol. A lot of people talking hearing all the KU rumors/rumblings.
Talk about Zion trigger finger been itching & with Fran being in the loop has a KU feel. How Fran has his nose so far up Coach Self's butt lol. Then talking about how Adidas bringing Devon onto Zion's AAU team and how they fit together - - -helping KU - -then there was talk about how Adidas had given Zion's father an AAU team, & they had sunk a lot of money into that team, so saying you don't think they would want Zion and his father to go an Adidas school after that?
Just multiple - -multiple people saying they think it has to do with Zion committing to KU in some form or another, probably package.
Then the topper was they even had a multi package deal, saying Zion Williamson - - Devon Dotson - - Quinton Grimes - -&Romeo Langford - -ALL Adidas kids and committing to KU lmao.
Well gives us something to ponder, so has anyone heard anything about something HUGE coming on the recruiting front for anybody? - -Fran made this statement last night at 6:48 - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I think Langford ends up in Louisville.
@BShark Oh I do to, hve felt that for some time, but was just mentioning the things these people ad to say. - -They wetting themselves at the thought of Zion coming to KU - -which in reality I could se him and Dotson as a package to KU - -and possibly Grimes - -ya I think you would call that Seismic ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Wow can't believe how deathly quiet it is in here right now - -Have we been invaded? lol Am I the last Jayhawk standing? - - -Jumpin - - -Gee - - Hossa - -Fats - -this old wrinkled up old man bored to tears, just recovering from my surgery - -AGAIN - -yet another lol , and all my brothern - - GONE - -did ol squeaky down the road snatch everyone lol? - -was so bored trolling other schools boards, read off Duke they were commenting on Frans post also about something Huge in recruiting may be coming - -got me really curious as to what? - -Duke also thinks it could be Zion coming to KU - -even thought that would be sweet, him by himself ehhhh maybe not so much - -thinking like most are possible package commit - -ANYONE got any inside poop on this? - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer54 Still here and still checking in, just hasn't been much to talk about lately. Seems like this recruiting season has dragged on a bit. Once KU lands its first commitment there will be a lot more chatter going on I hope.
This class does look like it could be one of the best Self has ever had. Some of that is due to how much we are losing at season's end but this is a class the staff did its homework early to get a leg up on some elite kids.
Dotson and Grimes- They are locks until anything is said otherwise. Both dynamic guards.
Zion & Zion- Williamson is a legitimate option for KU, Griffin will take his last visit to KU and that one seems ours to lose from his comments. I think we are good shape to land at least 1-Zion.
Big Dave McCormack. Getting him to unofficial on his own then getting him back a month later for an official is huge. Billy Preston is probably a big reason he's looking at us having been a former teammate of his at Oak Hill.
As @RockkChalkk said we just need the first domino to come off the board.
Not frans place to say that! Lil man, big mouth, seeks attention! I so dislike people that say things like that, "I know something, but I can't tell you". Bs.
Stole De Sousa from Maryland. LOLOLOL
Well how about that for timing, there is the first domino! Wow, that's a big commitment that really wasn't on the radar until Friday. Amazing.
Got him ;)
@RockkChalkk Maryland got Ayton'd.
Haha Maryland fans have got to be SO salty right now
Nice addition and kudos to Self and the staff!
Welcome to the team, De Sousa!
“When I was there in Kansas, I couldn’t even express myself or how I was feeling,” De Sousa told the Journal-World. “When you love something, there’s no way you will describe it."
Sounds like a great kid, lol.
Wow, just read some quotes from SDS about his visit and why he committed and they were some awesome and powerful words. He really fell in love with KU and that makes me like him even more.
Posted this in the other thread too:
That happened fast. Leaves me with so many questions.
What is his and Dotson’s relationship?
Can he graduate at semester and come early? I guess if he was a 4 year player than he wouldn’t be eligible that last semester. I’m sure there is a way to work around that though.
He plays AAU with Emmitt Williams, wonder if that could help us out?
Wonder what McCormack thinks? Could bill sell them on just being the biggest nastiest front court ever next season, especially if Doke comes back? Can we land all 3 and still get Doke or Preston back? (Williams,De Sousa and McCormack?
Is he actually 6’9? Draftexpress shows he was 6’7 w/o shoes in 2015 and 6’9 in shoes in 2016. 6’9 wingspan which isn’t out of the ordinary.
Is he actually 256 lbs or is he 220 lbs? Draftexpress shows he gained 30 lbs in a year. I hope he is 256. Means he has a college body already. He looks like he has a college body already in the videos. Also means he is a worker.
Overall, I’m excited by the signing. Solid player, but his additional possible connections makes him all the more exciting.
@RockkChalkk FOE, Rock chalk
@jayballer54 did you have a heart attack? Maybe buying some depends?
Wow that was an unexpected thing. Great to have him aboard!
My immediate thought is this is insurance for Dedric. The good thing is he'll be 19 when he steps on campus, physically matured player already. Great job staff on getting this one quick. Have to feel a few others will follow suit now.
If you believe 80% of the angry Maryland board, we paid him to come here.
BeddieKU23 said:
My immediate thought is this is insurance for Dedric. The good thing is he'll be 19 when he steps on campus, physically matured player already. Great job staff on getting this one quick. Have to feel a few others will follow suit now.
Dedric will be here next season. Preston won't however.
I think Dok and McCormack are tied together. If McCormack commits I'd expect Dok to be gone.
Dedric/De Sousa/McCormack + Lightfoot is a very good front court. De Sousa and McCormack should be 2-4 year guys too, with McCormack closer to 4 and De Sousa closer to 2 but possibly 3. So, how does that impact 2019 becomes a good question but you have to take talent when you can get it. It appears that JRE and Chandler are as close to locks as you can get, but kids wanna play.
BeddieKU23 said:
If you believe 80% of the angry Maryland board, we paid him to come here.
Their 247 board reached terminal velocity pretty fast. About 4 threads going at once, and they had to lock one, lol.
@Kcmatt7 I just don't feel like Emmitt Williams will be allowed to choose KU. Jmo.
@BeddieKU23 Also...same handler as Bruno Fernando, so just LOL at MD fans.
That is a really sweet 1st commit - -didn't see that coming AT ALL - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Sorry, Turgeon.
@Crimsonorblue2 lmao see all It took was me asking where everyone was at and it set off fireworks -- love it - I think this is the start of a very good recruiting class yet to come. - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY-
@BeddieKU23 Very in-expected - -well to me anyways, we hadn't really heard hardly anything on him--- - - - great way to start off, put him with Dotson and grimes and whoever else - -Williamson hopefully? - -huge class ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@BShark McCormack made mention that the staff told him that more likely then not that our top 6 would be gone next year, si I think what you say is pretty dead on - -Doke will not be back, they might ALREADY know - -gonna be a big year I've got this JUMPIN - - GEE - -HOSSA - -FAT feeling lmao - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BeddieKU23 said:
My immediate thought is this is insurance for Dedric. The good thing is he'll be 19 when he steps on campus, physically matured player already. Great job staff on getting this one quick. Have to feel a few others will follow suit now.
He might be 19 when he arrives, but he'll be 20 when he plays his first game for KU. His birthday is October 7.
Well that came outta nowhere.
Jerry Meyer and Andrew Slater gave some input:
Meyer says: - - -He will be a terrific fit - - - does a great job controlling space down low & effective with basketball from high post.
Andrew Slater says: De Sousa is one of the premier two way rebounders in the class. - -Good rim running big and can defend both the 4 - - or 5 - - -great lateral quickness, used to be a lot more turnover/foul prone - - - but has cut down in those areas dramatically - -good weak side shot blocker - - right now his weakness is face up shooter & - TA DA - -Doke # 2 lol - -poor free throw shooter - -oh no lol - -Great pick up nice way to start our recruitment.
Wouldn't this be sweet for a recruiting class: - - De Sousa at PF # 18 rivals, #30 overall by 247 - - - -Zion Williamson # 2 in the class - - at the SF - - -- # 18 Quentin Grimes - - at the SG - - -& # 32 - Devon Dotson as the PG. - - -Ya I think I would take that - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Oh yes, on just a little more sombering note, guess I'm just behind so sorry if it's been mentioned - - - So sorry to hear about Coach Heathcote from Michigan State, Always thought he was a pretty good Coach - -RIP jUD. - - - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
It's a great pickup. Fran thinks he's a top 10 player in the class. I'm not as high on him, but I'm not sure he's any lower than the 20-25 range. I do think he's closer to 255 than 225. The guy is pretty thick and ripped. He's big enough to play the 5 with that frame and motor. His lack of offensive skill may hold him at KU for an extra year or two as well. Doesn't strike me as a OAD really.
As far as implications for other guys, probably means KU is out for Emmitt Williams. He and de Sousa are fairly similar, so I'm not sure where Williams fits. Zion is being recruited as more of a wing, so shouldn't impact him. As others have said, Big Dave is a center, so there's limited overlap. More dependent on Udoka.
Texas Hawk 10 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
My immediate thought is this is insurance for Dedric. The good thing is he'll be 19 when he steps on campus, physically matured player already. Great job staff on getting this one quick. Have to feel a few others will follow suit now.
He might be 19 when he arrives, but he'll be 20 when he plays his first game for KU. His birthday is October 7.
This has been working out well for KU lately. Mason, Josh and Graham were all guys that took prep years. Actually Billy Preston too, but we don't know how he will do yet.
Also time will tell on the transfers but Self tends to do well with older/experienced players.
BeddieKU23 said:
If you believe 80% of the angry Maryland board, we paid him to come here.
If we paid as many recruits as I State, UK, Fizzou, Md, and Mich State fans routinely say we do, we wouldn't be able to pay Bill and his staff so much!
@jayballer54 I wouldn't worry about it too much. However one specific thing I will mention that I found hilarious is Maryland's actualy 247 insider. Ie a guy paid to write articles, pretty much said that KU paid for De Sousa. LOL
Jeff Ermann has always accused KU of being one of the dirtiest programs. I think the Jackson recruitment broke him.
@FarmerJayhawk I would just love it if one of these coaches would sue the hell out of the guys passing on the accusations of shadiness. On the other hand, . . . . .
Just a shout out to all you KU brethren that do the dirty work on recruiting, and keeping us informed. It really is appreciated. I don't know how you guys do it. I just don't have the stomach for it.
mayjay said:
BeddieKU23 said:
If you believe 80% of the angry Maryland board, we paid him to come here.
If we paid as many recruits as I State, UK, Fizzou, Md, and Mich State fans routinely say we do, we wouldn't be able to pay Bill and his staff so much!
Could also be why the state of Kansas is broke, lol.
@BShark Lol now THAT'S FUNNY. -- red a little more this kid I think is really going to help, may take just a little bit but maybe not. - -Anyways De-Sousa averaged 20.5 ppg & 8.2 rebs on the Under Armour Circuit - - - -plus he averaged 17.3 - - - -& - -13.1 rebs - - in the world cup, not to shabby - -not to shabby at all.- -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I watched a couple full games. The kid is a bulldozer. TRob comps aren't the worst...
@BShark Finally found some Maryland posts - -ya pretty much KU paid off, here were some of my better ones I seen:
Kan$a$ does it again - -nice - - -OR Poster says: I mean obviously it has to be dirty if Kansas beats us in recruiting battle (roflmfao ) ya Maryland you such a blueblood in Basketball. - -he says Hell we were told he was not the kind of kid to get swept away on a visit to a blue blood. ( well give me back my broom ) lol - - -OR this one: - -Why don't WE pay players everyone else does- -( sweet ) - - OR how about this one: Swayed by blueblood=Paid by blueblood - -OR now this was ONE a little different twist: - - Spare me the excuses of Kansas paying him. If KANSAS NEEDS to pay players to keep their program elite - - -we should be paying double - -( nice concept )- -Then last one - - -Kansas definitely paid, but I don't think most people are upset about that - -Were upset we didn't - -ummm OK lol.
Turg is really taking a beating on this too, saying Turg and staff to soft not hard enough with these recruits, suppose to be a banner year for Maryland in recruiting this year. People wondering how while they were suppose to be leading on him from the beginning Why they couldn't even get him to put a foot on Campus while at the drop of the hat He comes - -visits - -commits here - -Their not happy - -aww shucks, dag nabbit -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Checking out Florida basketball forum - they seem pretty confident about landing Devon - - -his visit is on Sept 8th - -will be interesting to see how that turns out - - -This is the only other school I feel we might have to beat, I feel good -BUT with just that pinch of ummm fingers crossed, - I think though the only way this turns out negative for us if he should be so overwhelmed by the Campus and setting of Florida Climate - -ummm scenery that he commits right after his visit, if he doesn't I think that says pretty much got him - -I like our chances anyways. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer54 You know, if this guy was looking to get paid, he wouldn't commit after his first visit and cancel other schools! Can you say, "Bidding war!"?
Those UMd people are not taking any classes in logic, are they?
@jayballer54 Maybe, but possibly underdosed on the bp meds. Because their brains don't seem to be gettin' much blood.
mayjay said:
@jayballer54 You know, if this guy was looking to get paid, he wouldn't commit after his first visit and cancel other schools! Can you say, "Bidding war!"?
Those UMd people are not taking any classes in logic, are they?
Plus this kid literally has the same handler as Bruno Fernando. You know the same Bruno Fernando that is enrolled at Maryland right now.
Good call on Williams.
The handler that is running his recruitment is the same fella that made Antonio Blakeney go from Adidas to Nike (Louisville to LSU). He's a Nike kid. I can definitely see him going to Oregon if he's open to leaving the state because he fits the Jordan Bell comparison to a T. If he stays closer to home look for Duke or LSU to turn up the heat. Slater has alluded too many times about the "other stuff" in Williams recruitment.
Being a diehard fan of Florida St football I can shed some light on Florida fans. They are an absolute delusional bunch from insider to common fan. I cannot stress that enough.
Florida is a legitimate option for him, always has been. It's also of note Florida is after other PG's because I think they know beating KU in this one will be hard to overcome. I feel that's a sign they know the writing is on the wall. We'll see I highly doubt Slater would have said KU to Dotson was done weeks ago if it wasn't true
De Sousa has had an interesting trajectory so far. Was as high as the #2 recruit. Then he dipped I think to the 40s/50s and is trending back up to the top 25 after a good summer.
@BeddieKU23 Well thanks for that bit of info. - The y seemed pretty confident, but yet I too feel pretty good with Devon, I think in the end he lands here, but yet still that itsy bitsy piece of human element of the un-expected keeps wantin to crawl into my head lol. - -I mean look at Silvio, who here really thought we were even in any kind of serious contention for him & then BAM - - I mean most predicts and most people agreed thought he was a heavy heavy lean to Maryland - - Then another example - -Ayton, ya know we all felt we were in really really great shape with him and then BAM - -he lands at Arizona and sweat boy. So even though I feel like 98% - -KU & 2 % Florida -- I I will sleep and feel a lot better when he actually comes out and says - - I'm announcing I will be attending the University of Kansas next year and playing Ball for Coach Self. - -I say again if he just doesn't somehow get overwhelmed by his visit to Florida on the 8th - which I don't really believe that will be the case - -if he doesn't commit on the 8th on his visit - then DONE he coming here for sure. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
It's about time we got someone that wasn't a dragged out recruitment.
If you think about it a good majority of foreign-born bigs that KU has landed over the years have committed without much knowledge to the fan-base.
Embiid we swooped in late, Azubuike was a long-time FSU lean and we came in late there and now De Sousa which really was a weekend honeymoon and now he's committed. I knew we offered De Sousa back in the spring but there really wasn't much information on his recruitment for a while and when Maryland became the favorite I kind of lost track of him. It's crazy that a 5 star talent has kind of gone under the radar on the national spotlight but that is what De Sousa has largely done.
OMG, what a stable of bigs next year. We will simply have a front line that will be tough as nails.
2019 Rankings update on Rivals.
Malik Hall has surged for 49th.
JRE 16, Chandler 19, Harvey 38, Jacobs 74.
Does anyone think we would have gotten him without an open scholarship?
@approxinfinity well I was really surprised at him committing but as far as the open scholarship don't think that played into it because he is next year anyways so we would have multiple scholi's to offer. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@approxinfinity I don't think that factored in. I think he was told that Preston and Doke are gone and that he would immediately be a top 2 post on the roster.
@approxinfinity I do. If we have Mitchell Robinson on the roster right now, I'm sure that scares some guys away.
Kcmatt7 said:
@approxinfinity I do. If we have Mitchell Robinson on the roster right now, I'm sure that scares some guys away.
In that case yes, I agree. But if it were, say, Jack Whitman or some other scrub I don't think it matters.
I would say Whitman no bc he'd graduate but some other project, I think yes. Having a scholie in hand made it easy for Self.
Having only 3 eligible post players on the roster and potentially losing 2 of them probably played a big factor in De Sousa's decision.
The way his body and game is built right now we could definitely see him starting alongside Dedric next season. Unless we land Big Dave there probably isn't going to be a signing that impacts Silvio starting next year
Matt Scott mentioned on the shiver that Grimes' visit situation "might get a little weird". Whatever that means.
After a few days of letting the De Sousa signing settle in, this is just a home run get by Self.
We'll have a Jr Lawson, Jr Lightfoot, R-Soph Lawson and FR De Sousa at the minimum to rotate in the post. We don't have elite size or length but this is a front court tailor made for how the game is changing.
I had some real doubt about who Self would get in the post in this class and he put that to bed real quick. The last remaining puzzle will be the Doke situation and Big Dave. If Big Dave comes here we know the outcome for Doke after the year. De Sousa/Big Dave duo is a home run between development and ready to play now.
Recruiting is funny. It was believed last year that by far KU's best shot at a big in 2018 was Carte'are Gordon. Then Self's nemesis Pig Face slams the door on that one. So of course Self gets a long perceived Maryland lean and then it comes out later that De Sousa had been long interested in KU and was hoping for an offer/visit.
Anyway I agree I think he is a tremendous player and if he had been active in the AAU circuit more he'd still be top 15 I think. Not that rankings change what kind of player he is. Just like Garrett though I think he could be undervalued. Though Garrett was on a different scale, they bumped him up to the 50 range just about right before his commitment to KU iirc.
Hmm, Florida really does have a lot of PGs visiting. Including a top 100 in state prospect that they are probably a lock for. Hopefully this means something...
They have a great chance at Devoe and Weaver from what I gather. Of course Florida fans etc will downplay what that means with Dotson but it's definitely significant. I also don't think Florida could have afforded to recruit just one PG with how much of a need they have at the position. We don't see KU getting involved with other PG's at this point which gives me even more assurance the Dotson deal has been done for as long as its been reported by Slater
It definitely appears as if the staff is confident. Haven't seen a redoubled effort on a kid such as Dosunmu or Carey.
@BeddieKU23 Yep, Adidas should be helpful this year. I think Maryland did have an inclination about De Sousa as they started showing interest in a couple post players in the 200 ranking range.
They also signed Smith who's a Top 40 big and it looks like they relied too much on the Fernando connection here. I can understand them being upset but wow that's a salty bunch that has gotten way ahead of itself in where it stands in the pecking order of College Basketball. KU flexed its muscle here with De Sousa and I'm glad the kid fell in love with everything KU on his visit.
Ok, maybe cause it's labor day weekend the last major holiday of the summer, maybe it's the coolness of the upcoming fall morning air - - BUT for some reason I'm starting to get this little feel good about McCormack. - -Call me crazy, but for some reason I'm just starting to get this feeling, that maybe we might be in a little better shape then what we thought. - -I dunno maybe the Silvio De Sousa commit, coming out of left field beyond the fence, has giving me ne inspired hope - -some confidence. - Could it be? - -Could we pull off a 2nd recruit where others were considered the favorites or at least strong leans for other schools? - -Last I knew was McCormack was pretty involved with Duke. - Now McCormack gives us an un- official AND is coming back on an official. - -Any time a kid uses their own money for a visit - means they have to have a decent amount of interest anyways - -then to return on an official? - -I know I'm looney probably - -BUT question is just how looney lol. - I'm mean JUMPIN - - GEE - -HOSSIE - - TOADS - -wouldn't be a sweet landing, very solid big - -time will tell, probably just me, whatcha think - -think we have a legitimate shot at this guy? - - - ROCK CHALK AL DAY LONG BABY
BeddieKU23 said:
They also signed Smith who's a Top 40 big and it looks like they relied too much on the Fernando connection here. I can understand them being upset but wow that's a salty bunch that has gotten way ahead of itself in where it stands in the pecking order of College Basketball. KU flexed its muscle here with De Sousa and I'm glad the kid fell in love with everything KU on his visit.
Yeah and honestly Jalen Smith is very good. They should be happy they had such a great talent sitting in their back yard. Such a heavy lean that Turg couldn't blow it. Lol.
Plus Fernando is definitely a multi-year player aaaand MD is making a hard push for Moses Brown. If you are De Sousa honestly the path to playing time looks easier at KU. Especially if he was told Preston and Doke are leaving. He will be the #1 option at C in that scenario.
@jayballer54 He decided to come back for a 2nd visit so I'd say he is interested in KU.
BShark said:
Matt Scott mentioned on the shiver that Grimes' visit situation "might get a little weird". Whatever that means.
Does it have anything to do with Hurricane Harvey since Grimes is a Houston area kid and lives in a part of Houston that got hit harder than most.
Could be @Texas-Hawk-10
That’s good to hear. The next one up is Kansas. How did the Jayhawks
make the list? What impact does Silvio De Sousa choosing them have on
your recruitment at all?
Well, Kansas is a much bigger school. Coach Self is a great coach.
Coach Howard is a guy I have a close relationship with. They’ve done a
good job with bigs and fours with my playing style, so it was
definitely a program that I could see myself in and see myself playing
in. As far as Silvio De Sousa, I won’t see it as affecting my decision.
I know his playing style. He’s a stretch four player, much more
athletic, so I could see him playing more on the outside than being a
post player like myself.
You’re more of a skilled low-post guy.
Right.
How was that unofficial to Kansas? What was that experience like?
It was a really good experience. They’re more of a college town
probably, a really good college town. It’s really nice. It’s not only
there for a school, but it fits my style of basketball cause Coach
Naismith…
Lots of great players. When you went, did you go both to a game or go
off-season and went around campus?
Just off-season.
In terms of how they see you fitting in, do they see you as more of a
four-five? What’s the plan there?
They definitely see me as more of a four-five, treating my position as
a low-post player.
@BShark Just came off 247 - -after reading the interview, I have to say that I feel better yet, he went quite in depth about our Program, the city, the Coaches - - -pretty lengthy - all sound pretty positive from the interview to me. - I think when it's all said and done it's going to come down to a KU-Duke battle to see who lands him Okla St with maybe an outside shot - but I just gotta feel from reading all the others in his final 6 this is how it will shake out - -KU/Duke. - -He is concerned about the De Sousa commitment - -plays more outside, the stretch four, would be nice to pair him up - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY - Oh he is a pretty big boy that's always nice bulk
@jayballer54 I took his comment to mean that he is NOT concerned about the De Sousa signing. I am wondering how serious the Quickley visit is, and how that might affect Dotson or Grimes. Sure would be nice to get two of the three plus Z. Williamson. That would be a super class to put with the Lawson's, Garrett, Mitch, Moore, Cunliffe, and hopefully Vick. Big Dave or anyone else that might be back would be frosting on the cake.
Not serious. Quickley is a wildcat, he just hasn't announced it yet.
@Big-Clyde52 Ya sorry about that. - -After I read your reply to me, I went back and saw my post. - I typed wrong your exactly right, I went to say that McCormack wasn't concerned about Silvio committing for us, said De Sousa would be or so he thought would be playing more outside where McCormack would be playing down low, my bad lol. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
The recruiting world was surprised on Wednesday afternoon when the news of Silvio De Sousa's commitment to KU broke. It wasn't surprise that De Sousa committed to Kansas, it was more surprising that he did it without visiting Maryland - who has long been thought to be the leader for De Sousa.
Now the De Sousa has committed to Kansas it's time to look ahead and see what he will bring to Kansas once he arrives in June. According to 247Sports Director of Scouting Jerry Meyer, De Sousa will be a terrific fit in Coach Self's system at KU.
"De Sousa found a great fit in the traditional high-low attack of Kansas," said Meyer. "He does a great job of controlling space down low and is also effective with the basketball in the high post," he added.
Meyer also thinks that playing in a structured offense will help De Sousa thrive at the next level.
"I would expect him to thrive in a structured system that values touches in the low post," said Meyer.
247Sports National Recruiting Analyst Andrew Slater also thinks the Jayhawks landing a perfect fit in De Sousa.
"Silvio De Sousa is a tremendous pick-up for the Jayhawks. With his mix of a high motor, very good athleticism, and strength, he's one of the premier two-way rebounders in the class," said Slater.
Slater says De Sousa's athleticism and versatility are two reasons why De Sousa is able to guard multiple positions on the defensive end of the court.
"He's a good rim-running big man, who can defend both the four and the five," said Slater.
De Sousa has worked hard to improve many aspects of his game, something that Slater has taken note of while watching him over the last year.
"The Angola native used to be more turnover and foul-prone, but both of those areas have been dramatically cut down on, as he adjusted to American basketball. Defensively, he uses his active hands and good lateral quickness to generate steals and as a good weak-side shot-blocker. His weakness right now is with his face-up game and similarly at the free throw line, but, with his work ethic, I fully expect him to become a more complete big man. His preferred uptempo style fits with what coach Bill Self has historically been so successful with," added Slater.
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Jamari with skills would be nice. A point forward player would do really well in the high-low. Jamari almost got it, but he wasn't skilled enough. You'd see flashes where he'd drive the lane, but that was his limit.
@dylans He is an elite rebounder - Jamari wasn't. He has some pretty good ball handling skills - Jamari didn't. He can score with his back to the basket -Jamari couldn't. He can defend the rim - Jamari did average a block a game, but I wouldn't classify him as a rim defender. He can shoot from 3 - Jamari couldn't. He can drive to the basket - Jamari could as well. He can steal the ball - Jamari had quick hands, but not in the same league as Silvio. The hi-lo with Tarik and Jamari was a thing of beauty ...those short passes were sweet. Beyond that, I don't see an equivilance between Silvio and Jamari. With this kid's nose for rebounds, I would venture to say we have a mini TRob. They are calling him an elite rebounder on both sides of the court.
@dylans Any question of TRob gets my interest.
Comparing Simien vs. TRob, both in their junior seasons -- TRob obviously didn't have a senior season.
Simien - 17.8 pts, 9.3 reb, .9 blocks, 1.2 assists, .9 steals
TRob - 17.7, 11.9 reb, .9 blocks, 1.8 assists, 1.1 steals
Simien's senior season was terrific as well, 20.3/11.0/.6/1.4/.6
Obviously different players. Simien could really hit that turn around 12-15 footer and was more diverse offensively. TRob had the benefit of Withey down low with him.
For my money, I'd go with TRob at the 4 spot. Simien was obviously smaller. Don't know what a senior season would have brought for TRob. Can't go wrong either way.
Simien was also a very good FT shooter and you did not have to worry having him in the game at the end of close games; he shot 0.816 in his senior year and his career average at KU was 0.784. I don't believe has had a big shoot that well from the FT since he left.
@JayHawkFanToo Withey took it up high his junior year, 79.5%, but fell back to 71.4% senior year. Simien was great. Too bad injuries curtailed both college and pro opportunities for greatness (if only vs Syracuse...Simien and Graves both out there...sigh.)
Well just got my fix on KU Basketball to help carry me through -- lol, watched a high lite reel talking about and showing clips of beware of the Phog - -showed where Robinson blocked ol boys last second lay up attempt from Mizzery - showed Mario's last second shot to tie the game against Memphis in the NCAA Championship game - fans reaction back at the phog during that game - -Damm can ya feel it? - - -It's coming. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@dylans TRob averaged 17 ppg and over 11 rebounds a game his junior year. He had his offensive limitations, but...he has been the best rebounder in the modern era, better than even Collison. Our interior defense has not been the same caliber since him and Withey left. Now, we got some flashes with Embiid, and Perry and Landen did a solid job (for the most part) down low, but nothing like TRob/ Withey.
I want a kid described by scouts as an "elite rebounder on both ends". It's good he has quick hands, has great fundamentals, and is an offensive threat, but I want the boards, man. Pair him with Dedric down low, and that is an elite rebounding tandem.
Some early names to keep an eye on for future 2020 : - -- # 1 Isaiah Todd 6'10 PF- - N Carol 50 %- - KU 50%- - - - -# 6 R J Hampton 6'4 PG- - Current Texas 100%- - - - # 7 Greg Brown 6'7 PF- - KU 100%- - - - - -# 16 N' faly Donte 6'11 C- - only KU showing warm interest at present.- - - - # 26 Adam Miller 6'3 PG- - KU warm interest- - - - #32 Jabri Abdur - Rahim 6'5 SF - - already big time offers, 16 offers already, looks to big time - for sure gonna move up - offers from Ariz, Cal, U Conn, Florida, & KU listed right now of top 5 of interest- - - - # 35 Nicco Mannion 6'1 PG - -from schools shown looks like he will stay back on coast only KU the lone exception at this point. Others Ariz 100% - -right now on the CB - - UCLA , Utah , Oregon.
So there you go, just a few - - -will definitely change - -very , very , early with these kids - -a lot of the top 60 haven't even received offers yet or showed where they have - -obviously things will change as time goes by - -a lot more of these top 60 KU might /probably has interest in, just not offered yet, so it doesn't show - - -just passing time guys patiently waiting lol - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
When you look at the entire body of work while at KU, I would have to give Simien the edge. He was unstoppable inside and when fouled he was gold at the FT line and he did not have Jeff Whitey protecting the rim behind him. Both great KU players with amazing personal stories.
TRob was a beast. He didn't play defense consistently, but he always rebounded well and would throw the ball down with authority. Robinson had no jumper though.
Simien was a good rebounder and had a good jump shot. Great free throw shooter. Never lazed around on d or o. Good off the court leadership ability also.
The main deciding factor for me is the jumpshot. Poor defensive effort by TRob (probably to save on fouling) is also a big factor. Both players were fantastic for KU and I'd gladly take another of each.
@JayHawkFanToo I'm not debating who was best - i am looking for players that are good rebounders, and TRob came to mind. If Simien was better than TRob, then change the names in your mind when you read my post. It's like a DIY post.
Lol and Kentucky fans continue to amaze. - Original post question was asked - -had anyone heard anything on Grimes and was UK still in the race for him?
Variety of response but most as you could imagine not good. Simple response was No - -But then one's like oh mom went to Choke U and he probably would too - - To response such as Grimes sucks and so does any school he goes to - The this He probably goes to KU is he has enough felonies for Self - -Anytime they lose out on a recruit he automatically sucks - - isn't with a dam they wasn't recruiting in the 1st place - gota love them lol - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
The funny thing is UK is recruiting him and will probably get a visit.
McCormack looks like he will decide soon: http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/09/06/david-mccormack-closing-college-decision/ ↗
@BShark I think we are sitting in REALLY good shape with McCormack.- -says he is closing in on a decision - getting antsy, saying he had a " Great Time" time at KU
Says he has visited Xavier , Ku and NC State. both KU & Xavier on un-offical and going back to both to Xavier & KU on officals - -Coach says they are both very much in the picture
Says he supposedly has visits for Duke & UCLA -" IF " it gets that far his Coach says I don't know if it will go past September - -I think he likes a Couple of Schools.
He really liked NC State last weekend & he likes KU - -ALOT. I don't know just from the sounds of this -I like our chances. - -He may not even go visit Duke OR UCLA. - -with him visiting us twice and the comments he made after his visit about the history of KU - -Naismith him talking about how he could see himself fitting right in and being able to play high or low - -I personally think this sounds pretty good.
Would love to land him has improved his shot it said to 17 ft lost some weight - still big boy. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer54 Thanks for all of your updates. It is funny hearing some of the UK comments. I don't think I could read all of them though...might upset me too much.
The only negative part would be how much mentioned wanting to play through mistakes. That seems like the kind of thing other coaches would bring up against Self.
I think this kid would be a great addition.
@BShark True, but I've got a feeling Coach would have some tendency to allow him to play through some of his mistakes - I hope anyways and I think he would I've am getting a good feeling about him.
I'm now for seeing this class possibly - pretty decent chance at landing this: Ok, already got De Sousa, then we land McCormack, Grimes & Dotson - and " MAYBE " a chance of Williamson - -I could live with that - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Well it will be interesting cause this is the Weekend Devon was suppose to visit Florida, but with hurricane Irma hitting there probably have to re-schedule I guess. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer54 It is a sign! "Go to Kansas, in Tornado Alley, but where a storm with tornado-force winds is never 300 miles by 500 miles in size!"
jayballer54 said:
@BShark True, but I've got a feeling Coach would have some tendency to allow him to play through some of his mistakes - I hope anyways and I think he would I've am getting a good feeling about him.
I'm now for seeing this class possibly - pretty decent chance at landing this: Ok, already got De Sousa, then we land McCormack, Grimes & Dotson - and " MAYBE " a chance of Williamson - -I could live with that - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I have no doubt he would play, it just sounds like what other coaches are pushing since the kid mentioned it.
@BShark Ya probably so, but if he is as smart as he seems to come off to me he will read through that or he will understand that Coach will work with him. - -With some of the comments he made about his visit, and then on top of his High School Coach talking about what a great visit he had here, then him coming back for late night - - -I think late night finishes the deal for us, I just think he really really likes KU, but I've felt good about others before and they came back to haunt me - we shall see. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Big Dave is not a fit in Keatts style of play so I'll be shocked if that's where he thinks he's best suited to go. Looks like KU and Xavier are getting follow up official visits and maybe will end his recruitment after that. Xavier definitely has some playing time available for him with Kanter/O'Mara being Sr's and only 1 other Center on the roster. This should be a battle KU can win especially with the Late Night visit.
One time KU target Jamie Lewis is reopening his recruitment. Doesn't look like he had a great summer.
Devon Dotson's visit to UF this weekend has been cancelled.
RockkChalkk said:
Devon Dotson's visit to UF this weekend has been cancelled.
It should be good news but we know this prolongs his announcement now if he sets up a return visit...
Interesting article on ESPN ↗ about the top 5 defenses that include Texas as #5.
John Gasaway, the writer states...
"Texas finished last in the Big 12 in 2016-17, but you actually don't have to squint too hard to call it, on balance, a solid first 17 months on the job for Shaka Smart. For one thing, finishing in "last" with five new starters in what statistically was the nation's strongest conference might not be quite as bad as it sounds."
Does any one agree that Smart has had a solid 17 months on the job? I don't an I believe it has been a big backwards step for the program and I am sure most Texas fans agree with me.
@JayHawkFanToo I wouldn't say solid. He has recruited well and I think next season is the season that we should see the UT program take a big step up. If that doesn't happen though, it is a sign that Shaka was nothing more than a flash in the pan.
Better start winning some games this year. There is talent on that roster.
BeddieKU23 said:
RockkChalkk said:
Devon Dotson's visit to UF this weekend has been cancelled.
It should be good news but we know this prolongs his announcement now if he sets up a return visit...
Not surprising. Already looking to reschedule I think.
Agreed, he's proven already that he can't coach his teams how to score the ball even after having 2 1st round picks in the post on his team. Bamba will be the third. If the summer games have any foreshadowing they will suck again
BeddieKU23 said:
Agreed, he's proven already that he can't coach his teams how to score the ball even after having 2 1st round picks in the post on his team. Bamba will be the third. If the summer games have any foreshadowing they will suck again
Imagine KU last year with Jarrett Allen.......
That was my poorly made point. Smart has had quality players all along but the coaching has not been good. Last year ESPN had them as the pre-season Big 12 champion...right...they finished last.
Smart's coaching seat is warm now and another season in the bottom half of the conference will make it pretty hot.
@RockkChalkk Really no surprise about cancelling, and really won't be a surprise to re-schedule, still think we are doing fine in the recruitment . Unless Florida really WOWS him when he does visit I think we should land him, keeping fingers crossed. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
UT's starting 5 is probably second best in the conference. If he can't at least get to .500 in conference play, we'll know he's a garbage coach.
KU is in a good spot with McCormack, and he'd be a great fit in the offense. I don't think he's good enough to start year one, but could be a beast in years 2-3.
Picked this up from the UK board. Article written by Ben Roberts from Big Blue Nation I believe.
Was talking about with Reddish committing to Duke that Uk now only had 9 left they were in on and he listed from the least likely to sign to the most.
He bases his results from recent talks with Analysts, Players, parents & Coaches
The one they feel the least - -likely to land is Romeo Langford. - -Said had been no recent Buzz , bottom line was they from what they are hearing most likely landing spot for him is Either Louisville - - Indiana - - Or KU. - - The # 7 on the least likely was Quinton Grimes saying KU was a Major Favorite and remains his most likely landing pot. Said anything possible, never to count Coach Cal out - might get a visit but still. - - -- Then the one well they listed all nine but the other one with KU conversation they listed as # 3 - - Zion Williamson , was talking about how there had been quite a bit of talk about him & Quickly playing together but how that has seemed to of quieted down and that it seemed like KU had become a factor and KU had even taken the lead in the CB off 247 BUT how that could change on a dime, The Article said other teams involved but looked like it was going to come down to a KU-Uk race for Williamson, and of course at this point they felt Williamson would ultimately would land at UK.
It said Most of these guys would be committed enough in time to sign in the fall period. - -we shall see. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
KU is doing an in-home with Grimes this weekend.
Is it weird that I want Quentin Grimes more than Zion Williamson?
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Is it weird that I want Quentin Grimes more than Zion Williamson?
Grimes is a bigger need, so no.
@FarmerJayhawk I saw that, I find it funny, off Uk board they mention how that Cal has an in home visit scheduled for Grimes this weekend, that's fine - - BUT what they failed to mention IS that KU - - Marquette, & Texas also have in home visits sit up this weekend for Grimes also. - -Says he has these 4 visits today and tomorrow, after these visits then he is going to sit up official visits.
The way they want to try and play this is that it's ONLY KENTUCKY with an in home - the way they try to bring it across. and of Course since Calipari has an in home well then of course - -He is a lock for Kentucky - - these people are jokes. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
See where Devon has re-scheduled his visit for this weekend with Florida. - -This is really the only school that stills worries me to a degree.
He talks about the relationship he has with the Florida staff, saying they have been recruiting him since he was 14-15 yrs old have developed a bond - kind of worries me some. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Read where Jermaine Harris 6'8 PF is scheduled for an official visit on Oct 6th for us.
CB has him 100% right now for WV, his 5 officials are WV this weekend , Rhode Island Sept 22 , Xavier Sept 22nd , and Miami # 77 in the 247 rankings Really think he will probably be West Virginia commit. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
The Rivals guys are pretty sure Dotson is Florida bound. If that's true, I'll be interested to find out what changed. People around KU and national guys had him on commit watch before the visit.
Hell ya - - T-Minus 13 days until the official , official start of the fore seeable Basketball Season.
Boot Camp starts tomorrow - -always interesting to see how what players hold up. - -Thin the Lawson boys have ever been through anything like this lol? I am sooooo ready man what a long summer.
I think it's going to be a couple of next two - - three weeks on the recruiting front. - I think we could very easily see a couple of players commit , whether it be here at KU or somewhere else - -I kinda have a feeling we may here some coming from Devon and possibly McCormack within this time frame we shall see what pans out.
But main time back at the ranch - -Jumpin - -Gee - -Hossa - - Fats guys can you feel it? It's getting within sniffin distance I'm ready - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
McCormack has scheduled a visit to OSU for Oct 13th. Doubt he commits before then.
Dotson I think he does though. I think it's Florida.
WOW - -so glad we didn't end up with this mess. -- - Mitchell Robinson had changed his mind once AGAIN. - -Now leaving WKU a 2nd time and just going to concentrate on the NBA drat next year. - -what a mess , could you imagine.?
Another tidbit: - - Atwann Jones commits to Okla State. - -# 67 didn't take any visits. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer54 My guess is that if he'd been released and then came to KU, he'd happily be sitting in some useless class in Wescoe hall right now -- and we'd all be very happy as well.
If you think Robinson's situation is a mess right now, wait until you see him try and convince a NBA team to gamble on him. Without the maturity and support system in place we will likely never hear much from him.
@HighEliteMajor Maybe. I would hazard a guess, though, that the phrase "happily in . . . class" doesn't appear in any of the alternate universes in which young Master Robinson is, has been, or might have been, a resident.
And it is amazing how, by his own free will, he was able to bypass college. All this time I thought the players were slaves and forced into indentured servitude. I bet Robinson could even work at McDonalds to earn pizza money if he really wanted to.
A few notes from today:
Norm Roberts is planning to see Devon Dotson later today.
I'm hearing KU is definitely in the mix for Romeo Langford, much more than most people may currently think they are. Langford is visiting with Roy Williams today for an in-home visit.
Grimes is meeting with the entire Marquette staff again today. Grimes official visit to Texas is this coming weekend.
There is an article on the rivals site for KU updating status of Grimes and Dotson but I'm not a subscriber, if anyone else is it would be nice if you could let us know if there is anything good in there.
@RockkChalkk I'm hearing ya guy. - -I saw this about Langford the pother day off the Indians Site.. - Surprised the hell out of me - now he would be a nice addition. - - -But like you say we are more involved then what a lot of people INCLUDING myself thought. - - we shall see. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Norm Robert is goning to see dd today
Langford literally lives across the river from Louisville. This one has been over for a while now if he follows through. Some character issues with him were made apparent this summer as well.
Well I see that yet TWO MORE are coming for late night. - Is there such a thing for having to many come in at the same time? - -Both Lawson Brothers Chandler & Johnathan - -class of 21. 6'6 Sf - -sounds like we have quite the in roads with the Lawson clan now.- - -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
ku should be getting some news on sunday with david mccormack
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
ku should be getting some news on sunday with david mccormack
what news?
@BeddieKU23 Isn't D Mac announcing on Sunday? I think that is what he was referring to.
Big Clyde52 said:
@BeddieKU23 Isn't D Mac announcing on Sunday? I think that is what he was referring to.
YES IAM
http://247sports.com/player/david-mccormack-85446 ↗
KU interest level now at favourite. If I had to guess, he committed Wednesday, the info got out so he now figures just get it done. This is just a wild ass guess as I have no idea on specifics.
Assuming he does pop for KU, talk about a LOADED front court next year...
Big Clyde52 said:
@BeddieKU23 Isn't D Mac announcing on Sunday? I think that is what he was referring to.
What kind of news? Sunday Newsworthy?
BeddieKU23 said:
Big Clyde52 said:
@BeddieKU23 Isn't D Mac announcing on Sunday? I think that is what he was referring to.
What kind of news? Sunday Newsworthy? DAVID MC WILL BE COMMITTED
It’s done, Dave will be a Jayhawk. Great job by the staff on he and de Sousa. Now just need to bring back one of Preston and Udoka and we’ll have an insane frontcourt.
BShark said:
http://247sports.com/player/david-mccormack-85446 ↗
KU interest level now at favourite. If I had to guess, he committed Wednesday, the info got out so he now figures just get it done. This is just a wild ass guess as I have no idea on specifics.
Assuming he does pop for KU, talk about a LOADED front court next year...
for sure. I mean all three can't play at the same time but you figure Lawson and either De-Sousa or McCormack and then possibly Vick and the other of De-Sousa as a back up pretty nasty. - and then we can use Mitch in a tight spot - -pretty nasty - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer54 Amen brother.
Well , honestly and I know this may come across wrong but not meant that way BUT with what has went down with Louisville may in the long run be beneficial for KU.
Since Rick got fired within the hour of that happening BOTH Courtney Ramey & Anfernee Simons de-committed. Since that time Anfernee Simons has picked up 4CB's for Florida, might be enough even more to sway Devon away from Florida - yes I know he is listed as a CG but has played some point also - you never know -- - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY