On a promising note the supreme ruler of China who is not elected has promised Trump Who can be elected out of office. That is not the case.
Yet again hearsay
Well for one south Korea is a small state compared to United States of America. The populations donât even compare. Second this virus started in this part of the world theyâve had a bit of a Headstart on the rest of the world. Thatâs China trying to keep the lid on this as long as They could. Notice how in that part of the world the numbers of infected are going down yet in the rest of the world theyâre going up? What is it because they are smarter? If china was so damn smart then why do they steal everybody elseâs technology and research? Sadly Iâm hearing and reading now that the Chinese want to withhold drugs to the rest of the world mainly United States that could circumvent this virus.
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD President of South Korea. Has done a better job handling the coronavirus.
So you are comparing a small state to the third largest population in the world? See the problem
How did that small state produce so many more tests than us? We still havenât caught up to them in testing numbers.
Because they didnât need as many?
@FarmerJayhawk said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
Glad they agree with my assessment of the study from France. Wasnât worth much.
Iâm glad you like. Iâm a fair person. Unlike some people labeling you without any evidence to back it up. You know the type claim to be one way when really at their core they are another. Donât have time for people like that. Those types always have agenda, and itâs never for the greater good.
Great read @BShark
See what @FarmerJayhawk isnt telling you. You need the house and the senate to pass a stimulus package. Yet itâs easier to blame Trump.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@FarmerJayhawk https://apple.news/AbfvdNF6xQBCVotvOwpqLNQ â
Think itâs bad?
It's not good! It'll take days for the House to draft and vote on its bill. Not time we have at the moment. This may be the cabin fever taking hold, but I like Bernie's plan + the Senate plan for business: $2k/month for everyone as long as the pandemic is here and $1.5 trillion in forgivable loans to small businesses (forgiveness if they maintain payroll). Simple, quick, robust enough to avoid mass layoffs.
Crap you know it and so do i
@FarmerJayhawk said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
Take it with a grain of salt. But this is what Trump is hanging his hat on for now
I saw this the other day, and holy moly is this study absolute garbage. Without getting too into the grimy details, essentially the study had no real randomization so it violates every single assumption we make in running RCT's. It's also seriously underpowered (n=36). The outcome is viral load, not whether the patients actually got better, so we don't really know a whole lot beyond that. In about half the days of the study, control patients weren't even tested for virus. That's really bad. At best the study is useless, at worst leads us down a rabbit hole of pursuing treatments that may be really harmful to non-COVID patients (e.g. folks with Lupus who are treated this way).
And so what would the great @FarmerJayhawk do? Lol Where Is your evidence that study is a Joke? I know how you like to throw around your opinion without Any evidence. Oh I forgot when the great @FarmerJayhawk says itâs crap itâs crap. Lmao
As far as I know
Take it with a grain of salt. But this is what Trump is hanging his hat on for now
@benshawks08 ty you for being civil. Itâs really refreshing
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 Thereâs a difference between being united and having blind faith. Voicing frustration does not mean we arenât united. You proved how to do that yourself. You voiced your problem with what someone said while maintaining your connection through basketball. Unity is good but doesnât absolve someone from bad leadership.
Pretty good game on Cbs right now! Rock chalk.
ROCK CHALK IS RIGHT. SEE? were United there and for sure not blind faith lol
Who is asking for blind faith. But hope? Why not? No letâs tell every American you screwed. Then letâs see what happens? You have guns? Because youâll need them if you you say that to the American people.
Hope is good but doesnât have to be fabricated or based on false numbers or lies. Thatâs my biggest problem. How can we believe anything Trump says at this point?
The hope is coming from old tested science. Are we to reject science?
What are you even talking about here?
Trump is hanging his hat on French scientists cure or curb of the coronavirus.
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD President of South Korea. Has done a better job handling the coronavirus.
So you are comparing a small state to the third largest population in the world? See the problem
How did that small state produce so many more tests than us? We still havenât caught up to them in testing numbers.
Good question I guess we can blame the whole world? Maybe they donât have a fda
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 Thereâs a difference between being united and having blind faith. Voicing frustration does not mean we arenât united. You proved how to do that yourself. You voiced your problem with what someone said while maintaining your connection through basketball. Unity is good but doesnât absolve someone from bad leadership.
Pretty good game on Cbs right now! Rock chalk.
ROCK CHALK IS RIGHT. SEE? were United there and for sure not blind faith lol
Who is asking for blind faith. But hope? Why not? No letâs tell every American you screwed. Then letâs see what happens? You have guns? Because youâll need them if you you say that to the American people.
Hope is good but doesnât have to be fabricated or based on false numbers or lies. Thatâs my biggest problem. How can we believe anything Trump says at this point?
The hope is coming from old tested science. Are we to reject science?
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD President of South Korea. Has done a better job handling the coronavirus.
So you are comparing a small state to the third largest population in the world? See the problem
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD Moon Jae-in
Iâm not a educated as you. Youâll have to explain.
@jayballer73 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 Thereâs a difference between being united and having blind faith. Voicing frustration does not mean we arenât united. You proved how to do that yourself. You voiced your problem with what someone said while maintaining your connection through basketball. Unity is good but doesnât absolve someone from bad leadership.
Pretty good game on Cbs right now! Rock chalk.
ROCK CHALK IS RIGHT. SEE? were United there and for sure not blind faith lol
Who is asking for blind faith. But hope? Why not? No letâs tell every American you screwed. Then letâs see what happens? You have guns? Because youâll need them if you you say that to the American people.
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 Thereâs a difference between being united and having blind faith. Voicing frustration does not mean we arenât united. You proved how to do that yourself. You voiced your problem with what someone said while maintaining your connection through basketball. Unity is good but doesnât absolve someone from bad leadership.
Bad leadership? Says who ? You. When did you become an expert on leadership? I mean your boy Obama and the Biben team did a worse job on H1N1.
I donât know, how about the American citizens join forces And keep a virus at bay. But no letâs play politics.
Absolutely amazing that you advocate not âplaying politicsâ in a post where you use the classic what about Obama tactic.
Shitting down flights from China was a good move. But can you honestly everything sense then has been âperfect,â â10/10â? Yesterday he put recommendations for an unproven medication combination to treat the virus causing a run on essential medication for people with Lupis. Heâs taken every opportunity to âplay politicsâ and bash Biden whenever he has a chance. Just blind worship from you on trump at this point.
You bring up transgender people for no reason at all and then whine and complain that this isnât a safe place for you and itâs not âfair and balancedâ (wonder where you got that one...). Whose the real snowflake here? This had been a pretty civil thread until you took it off the rails. Most of us arenât actually talking republican vs dem but you choose to see it that way. Look above for praise all around for a variety of republican governors from myself and others. So who is really âplaying politics?â
Also, interesting you donât protest the racist and sexist accusations. If you donât like being labeled such things, maybe donât spew hateful rhetoric.
If you want to see what real thoughtful debate and disagreement looks like, check out @FarmerJayhawk. A real pro at disagreeing with someone, providing true support for an argument, and never making it or taking it personal. No point trying that with you in your current state.
My friend if you think trump is playing politics? I donât know what To say? We all know Trump (ego problem). Yet what president has done better in handling this coronavirus? I mean how many Americans died before Obama declared a national problem?
@BShark back to a more civil conversation. Can Trump be blamed for dropping the ball. Of course. Yet that is arm chair QB stuff. The important thing is where are we at now? There will be a time of judgment when we beat this virus. China being at the top of the list.
@BShark said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
Absolutely not.
@approxinfinity runs the site.
Okay bubba my bad. Thought you was.
I am more than willing to debate all topics and admit when Iâm wrong. Yet donât call me names when it has nothing to do with the damn topic
Is this not a fair website or not? I was just called a homophobe and this had nothing to do with the conversation. @BShark are you a facilitator of this website?
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD I never ever voted or said I voted for trump! I've been a republican all my life till after trump, I switched. You were probably drunk
Oh Iâm not dropping this. Why did you call me a homophobe?
This conversation had nothing to do about being a Homophobe
You want to show me that youâre fair and balanced on this website? I was just called a homophobe by @Crimsonorblue22. Are you going to correct or not?
Look I was just called a A homophobe by @Crimsonorblue22. Yet that was never even a part of the conversation? Nice to cast judgment. But I wonât get no justice here.
@BShark said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
So your boy Biden
Okay, now I know you are trolling.
How? because I donât blame Trump for everything like you do?
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
I was, all my life. I didn't vote for him. Changed during the KS state fair, after the election. I don't lie and I don't care what u think. Don't ever talk to me again. You are racist, sexist, looks like homophobe too.
So you admit that you lied about voting for the Republican president last time. And I have no problems ever talking to your shady ass ever again. And letâs be honest you responded to me I didnât respond to you until after you respond to me. So take your heart and spirit and go to your safe place.
@BShark said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
I'll still be here when the death tolls in the US start rising to gross numbers.
Iâm hoping thatâs not the case. Iâm hoping we solve this problem. But you blaming Trump, So your boy Biden can win election is just sick.
Do you not remember Chuck Schumer Was calling racist when trump was trying to shut down the borders in the flights from China?
@BShark said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@BShark said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@BShark said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
But I know heâs a racist thatâs only reason you want to do it because heâs a racist. LOL
Calling it the China virus helps literally nothing. That's some shit to play to his base.
Playing political correctness is not the time. Did notice those originate in China. Do not try to blame US military for this virus? And youâre protecting China? Wow
That's. Not. The. Name. Calling it that just doesn't help anything. The ONLY thing it can do is incite real racism. Asians are scared and buying guns over this. What's not to understand here?
If you have read my posts you will know not only am I putting blame on China, but I think they covered up millions of deaths. Where did I blame the US military for anything? Slow response to a tricky virus has cost human lives, public not taking it seriously enough due to poor messaging has not helped. Puts us in the same boat as Italy or worse. Compare to other countries that took it seriously, tested rigorously and isolated sooner.
Last time I checked almost every country in Europe is in lockdown mode so would it advantage are you talking about
@BShark said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD what a dumb thing to say!
So dumb? How come the Chinese government didnât let the world know about this virus. Yeah youâre going to defend them? How many lives could have been saved? All because you want a D president. No youâre dumb
We knew about this last year, Trump literally ignored it. No way around this.
Last time I checked all of Europe is basically in lockdown mode so what advantages you talking about?
You seem confused. Lockdown is the correct thing to do and the sooner the better, we were slow about that and testing compared to some other countries.
And so youâre going to tell me the trump could actually lock down the country without the help of the dem party?
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@BShark said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD I was a republican during the last election.
No you wasnât. I seen your post. Do you like a transgender person oh Iâm a male and a female. No Iâm a Democrat no Iâm a Republican
Transgender rights are human rights.
True .But I donât know who they are
@BShark said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD I was a republican during the last election.
No you wasnât. I seen your post. Do you like a transgender person oh Iâm a male and a female. No Iâm a Democrat no Iâm a Republican
Transgender rights are human rights.
True .But I donât know who they are
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD I was a republican during the last election.
No you wasnât. I seen your post. Youâre like a transgender person oh Iâm a male and a female. No Iâm a Democrat no Iâm a Republican
@BShark said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@BShark said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
But I know heâs a racist thatâs only reason you want to do it because heâs a racist. LOL
Calling it the China virus helps literally nothing. That's some shit to play to his base.
Playing political correctness is not the time. Did notice those originate in China. Do not try to blame US military for this virus? And youâre protecting China? Wow
That's. Not. The. Name. Calling it that just doesn't help anything. The ONLY thing it can do is incite real racism. Asians are scared and buying guns over this. What's not to understand here?
If you have read my posts you will know not only am I putting blame on China, but I think they covered up millions of deaths. Where did I blame the US military for anything? Slow response to a tricky virus has cost human lives, public not taking it seriously enough due to poor messaging has not helped. Puts us in the same boat as Italy or worse. Compare to other countries that took it seriously, tested rigorously and isolated sooner.
Last time I checked almost every country in Europe is in lockdown mode so would it advantage are you talking about
@BShark said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD what a dumb thing to say!
So dumb? How come the Chinese government didnât let the world know about this virus. Yeah youâre going to defend them? How many lives could have been saved? All because you want a D president. No youâre dumb
We knew about this last year, Trump literally ignored it. No way around this.
Last time I checked all of Europe is basically in lockdown mode so what advantages you talking about?
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD what a dumb thing to say!
So dumb? How come the Chinese government didnât let the world know about this virus. Yeah youâre going to defend them? How many lives could have been saved? All because you want a D president. No youâre dumb
@BShark said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
But I know heâs a racist thatâs only reason you want to do it because heâs a racist. LOL
Calling it the China virus helps literally nothing. That's some shit to play to his base.
Playing political correctness is not the time. Did not this virus originate in China? Did they not try to blame US military for this virus? And youâre protecting China? Wow
But I know heâs a racist thatâs the only reason he wanted to do it because heâs a racist. LOL
The Quickest president to shut down the borders and flights. Go figure
Thanks for proving my point. Yet the evil Trump has us on the right path.
Fair enough yet it was everybody not just your hate for trump.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
Your boy? Cuomo is doing a better job. We could use a proactive guy. Get the freaking supplies! Let the Dr deal w/the meds. Trump is not a dr. Terrible job!
You do know the whole world is short on supplies? Nobody knew because the China Government didnât share or warn. Yet I get it because itâs a reb President blast him. Yet bet you think Obama did a great job with h1n1.
@benshawks08 there can be unity, but there will always people like you that wonât approve unless there is a D in office. Doesnât matter what they do as long as they have a D beside their name.
@benshawks08 maybe you would rather have a president say to all Americans you are all screwed. Deal with it? Is that what you really want. Think you can protect your stock pile of toilet paper?
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@jayballer73 Thereâs a difference between being united and having blind faith. Voicing frustration does not mean we arenât united. You proved how to do that yourself. You voiced your problem with what someone said while maintaining your connection through basketball. Unity is good but doesnât absolve someone from bad leadership.
Bad leadership? Says who ? You. When did you become an expert on leadership? I mean your boy Obama and the Biben team did a worse job on H1N1.
I donât know, how about the American citizens join forces And keep a virus at bay. But no letâs play politics.
First and foremost hope you all are doing good.
As a sports fan, I feel like a junkie looking for a fix. The Coronavirus has brought the sports world to a halt including the NCaa basketball tournament. Way down on the level of importance. The Coronavirus has ruined the greatness of a Jayhawk team.
I really believed this current team was built for a tournament run. They had the ability to overcome a hot shooting team. They could play crazy defense. They had pride. They had Moxie.
My question to you all. Should the NCaa (doing the lowercase aâs on purpose) have crowned a champion without the tournament? Kind of like the Helms Champions? And if they did would KU win?