Just curious if Biden wins the election who will be the actually president? Youāre all talking good game but you want to elect a fAke President. Everybody knows Biden wonāt be pulling the strings. Will it be Nancy? Or Chuck? Ever think that maybe us deplorableās donāt wanna world were gay man can walk around in a gay parade butt naked or are citizens just taking a crap out in the open on the sidewalk?
You called me a middle-age alcohol and you donāt even know me? If this is your politics are your view of the future yeah count me out
I mean anybody can challenge my claims. Call me whatever. Yet if I respond Iām the one being a dick?
Come on @approxinfinity prove me wrong? Or is it okay to to bash conservatives? Is this the world you envision?
@FarmerJayhawk said in Is this website a joke?:
@DoubleDD said in Is this website a joke?:
Iāve been attacked relentlessly because I think Trump is a good president. Yet these same think Biden will be a great president. Huh?
I donāt think Biden will be great by any stretch, but itās definitely not fair to splice together a bunch of clips of verbal miscues. You could do the same for my lectures over the years and think old Farmer has advanced dementia before he reached 30 š
I respect you @FarmerJayhawk as you will engage in a debate without personal attacks. Nothing but respect
@approxinfinity said in Is this website a joke?:
@DoubleDD Well ok.
You're frequently combative and insulting. You ignore posts that don't fit your narrative. You appear to be civil when it appears you're trying to prove how civil you are. Most people have been far more patient with you than me. You know, the people you call Democrats who have all stated that they are Republicans or Libertarians. But they being Democrats fits your narrative, so Democrats they are, right?
Where have ive been insulting? You know before I was insulted?
@approxinfinity so Iām a middle aged alcoholic the stays up till four in the morning to post stuff? Um did you ever consider that maybe I work on call? I donāt have days off I live be by the phone I go to work when Iām called. I can go to work at 4 AM in the morning and go to work at 4 PM in the afternoon.
@nuleafjhawk are we friends on this website? Iāve been nothing but nice and cordial, yet for some reason as I think Trump is a good president Iāve been called a A homophobe and a middle-aged alcoholic that stays up all the night to post stuff. Also I was mocked for asking if the governor of Kansas had banned alcohol sales as I heard it on the radio station coming home from work. I did my research I couldnāt find nothing so I asked the members of this board who some live in Kansas. Yet somehow Iām a fool.
I know this is KU topic website, yet @approxinfinity wants to talk politics. Okay letās talk politics, but be fair. Thatās all Iām asking.
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I can hate republicans just as much as I hate Democrats. Yet the double standard on this website is just crazy. You know if youāre going to hold a republican president to a certain standard then hold your Democratic president to the same standards.
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Why is it on this website thereās only certain news outlets that you can get your information and itās true. And yet somehow Iām close minded?
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Why is it when a liberal on this website canāt put forth a good argument wants to start name calling? I have been called a homophobe and a middle-age alcoholic all within the last two weeks.
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How can the members the liberal members blast Trump when they want to elect a Manchurian president? @approxinfinity iām not Hating on a Biden. He is losing his mind from old age or whatever. The guy canāt remember where heās at or what he saying. Itās so bad he canāt even read his notes or a Teleprompter. Do you care about voting the best person in as president or do you care about just getting a president with a D beside their name?
In closing, I like being here and talking with fellow Jayhawkers. Whether you believe it or not I read your posts I try to learn because I know I donāt have all the answers. But when you guys bash Trump for everything and then tout Biden as a savior with a straight face? Wow.
Iāll be more than happy to leave the website if that Will make you happy. just give me the word
Just donāt pull my chain. Donāt tell me you want a fair and balanced conversation about the issues effecting our lives, only to mock me With name calling. Ever notice you donāt have many opposing views? Wonder why?
oh And I donāt need a safe place, besides arenāt those for libs and Dems. No seriously Iāve yet to hear of a safe place for conservatives.
What is with the Dem party? I party of equality, a party of diversity, a party for the working man. Yet when it comes to voting Dem and liberal voters vote for the two oldest white men they can find. Let that sink in. Opps wait this is the party that cares about brown skin voters?
Notice in this video uncle joe says invasion of Hispanics. Yet not one of you called him a racist. Yet trump wants to build a wall and he is a racist. The same wall that Obama wanted to build. What gives? Hypocrites
Let me guess this a fake website? Lmao
Iāve been attacked relentlessly because I think Trump is a good president. Yet these same think Biden will be a great president. Huh?
@bskeet said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
Some conservatives are not entirely blind. Either that, or they are throwing Trump under the bus as he has done with so many others.
https://thebulwark.com/warnings-ignored-a-timeline-of-trumps-covid-19-response/ ā
The Bulwark is an American conservative news and opinion website founded by conservative commentators Charlie Sykes and Bill Kristol. The publisher is Sarah Longwell. While it launched as a news aggregator, it was revamped into a news and opinion site with "the core digital staff of The Weekly Standard."
Well to be fair he was was dealing with an impeachment trial at the time. Lol I think from what Iām seeing, a lot of leaders dragged their feet in the beginning when it came to the coronavirus. Most likely They didnāt know what they were dealing with. As China wasnāt forthcoming with much needed info soon enough. However have to Give the president major credit, in that he shut down the borders and air travel pretty fast.
Sadly guys heard on a radio station in Iowa that is with ABC.
@FarmerJayhawk sounds like the French might be on to something? Letās hope so.
@Woodrow said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
Why did the Governor of Kansas band the sell alcohol? Or did I miss hear? I was just curious.
She didnāt.
I wasnāt sure heard something on the radio, but when I tried to research it couldnāt find anything. Fake news.
Also seen on the local news, that are ready to start testing A coronavirus vaccine on humans.
Why did the Governor of Kansas band the sell alcohol? Or did I miss hear? I was just curious.
You do know that Brett Kavanaugh is a champion for womenās rights especially in the workplace. He has been one of the leaders for decades and helping women become lawyers and judges. These are facts not opinions
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
Wow didnāt know we are taking this to a personal level? I guess itās par for the course. Sure I think woman should be able to come forth, and demand justice. Just donāt think we should swing the pendulum so far that another person is presumed guilty until proven innocent. The Cavanaugh trials was a big sham of justice there ever was.
If you took the same parameters and evidence and witnesses that were in the Cavanaugh hearings and apply them to an average person in the streets? That case never sees the light of day in a courthouse.
That is politics trying to subvert the constitution and the rights of the people.
Yep. Bringing up sexual assault out of nowhere brought it to the personal level for me. CAVANAUGH IS A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!! If thatās the sham of justice you are talking about than I agree.
I do believe you are taking one context of many that were together in a complete sentence. You derailed the topic.
But to your opinion justice prevailed. Brett Kavanaugh was voted in to the Supreme Court.
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@FarmerJayhawk I think itās more the valuing of money and corporations over people than government. Now government has certainly had a something to do with shifting those values. And yes, conservatives and neoliberals are both to blame. But public schools, welfare, and civil rights arenāt the problem.
Iām sorry was I not given permission to respond? I do believe it was you and @BShark that have taken this off the rails.
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@BShark Seems like certain people tend to take it off the rails on the regular by bringing up random inflammatory takes because they donāt have a real response or independently thought out opinion. For someone who wants to ābe freeā @DoubleDD could use a little freeing of the mind from alt right talking points.
Wow ouch. I donāt know how, but somehow I will pick up the shards of my shattered ego, and carry on. Even though knowing what you really think of me.
Wow didnāt know we are taking this to a personal level? I guess itās par for the course. Sure I think woman should be able to come forth, and demand justice. Just donāt think we should swing the pendulum so far that another person is presumed guilty until proven innocent. The Cavanaugh trials was a big sham of justice there ever was.
If you took the same parameters and evidence and witnesses that were in the Cavanaugh hearings and apply them to an average person in the streets? That case never sees the light of day in a courthouse.
That is politics trying to subvert the constitution and the rights of the people.
I know you guys hate Fox News, but trust me Juan Williams is more liberal an more a trump hater than all you combined. Wow.
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@FarmerJayhawk I think itās more the valuing of money and corporations over people than government. Now government has certainly had a something to do with shifting those values. And yes, conservatives and neoliberals are both to blame. But public schools, welfare, and civil rights arenāt the problem.
Public schools arenāt to blame? A institution that really by all respects teaches socialism. Welfare? Another institution that doesnāt push people to be self-reliant yet demands them to be dependent upon the government. Civil rights? What does that mean anymore? We just had a supreme court justice nominee that had to deal with a woman that couldnāt remember where the so-called attempted rape took place what time the rate to place, yeah because she is a woman and she was a part of the me to movement it didnāt matter. Civil rights today are guilty until proven innocent not what our founding fathers wanted.
Oh Nice job on PBS scoring more money on their current budget on a stimulus package for Americans and Businesses suffering from Coronavirus. Nothing like sticking it to the tax payers.
It appears the New York Times the beacon of freedom. Wants all your personal info to read their canāt dispute truths. Sorry about that @BShark. Now I know what you were saying.
@approxinfinity said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/27/nyregion/coronavirus-new-york-update.html ā
Article about how Cuomo has a very different understanding of reality than Trump in terms of New Yorks need for ventillators.
I did a little research on Cuomo. Why was NY so unprepared for the spread of the coronavirus?
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It is one of the largest cities in the world
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Cuomo is Huge on open borders. Come one come all. No need to Look into ones past. Where they come from and so on.
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Heās screaming for financial reparations for NY as it has been hit the hardest.
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Now he wants to put coronavirus victims in retired or old folks homes.
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At one point NY officials were rejecting ventilators from the federal government.
I donāt know? Thinking some of this is self inflicted. Crazy as it seems the hardest hit states and cities in America are the ones that believe in open borders, and are sanctuary cities.
@BShark said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
We aren't free. We are just house slaves (third world is field slaves).
Freedom is a matter of perception or definition. Every person has to decide that answer for themselves.
If we canāt live free ? Then I say blow this big old earth up. I mean I get some of you will do what you are told to do to live. I respect that. Itās just not me.
@benshawks08 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@approxinfinity said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD He's been solid, I agree.
I'm assuming if he were to run for President, the Fox News hit-job would smear him to the point you'd be getting a negative impression. So if you like the guy now, by hearing directly from him, if he does have a future in higher office, don't forget to hear it straight from his mouth then as well :)
Hey if youāre going to get in the ring then one must except to be smeared. Iām not sure I could vote him. As Iām pretty sure heās a big backer of the Paris climate accord. Iāll have todo some homework on that one. Im all for helping the environment but not if we Americans are picking up the bill while China, and India get to continue to pollute.
You know what they say, everything said before the but doesn't really matter. I guess if we can't get an uncooperative authoritarian government in on a deal, why even bother.
Well thatās a Tricky question? As a nation do you hand over all your monies resources to try to save the earth. Not an easy question to answer?
Only to find yourself in service to A socialist and communist government That tells you what todo because you Are afriad of hurting the environment. Which isnāt really true. Itās more about saving humanity. Yet what is humanity if itās fearful and allows rouge nations to rule over them for fear of hurting the
Environment? is that living? Should we give credence and bow to the wishes to every rouge nation that threatens the environment?
Just to save the environment?
@jayballer73 said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
Great news @jayballer73
Thank You really appreciated. Really nervous hours when you dealing with the unkown
I know the feeling, glad everything turned out great.
@approxinfinity said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD He's been solid, I agree.
I'm assuming if he were to run for President, the Fox News hit-job would smear him to the point you'd be getting a negative impression. So if you like the guy now, by hearing directly from him, if he does have a future in higher office, don't forget to hear it straight from his mouth then as well :)
Hey if youāre going to get in the ring then one must except to be smeared. Iām not sure I could vote him. As Iām pretty sure heās a big backer of the Paris climate accord. Iāll have todo some homework on that one. Im all for helping the environment but not if we Americans are picking up the bill while China, and India get to continue to pollute.
Watching Cuomo presser. Wow where has this Cuomo been? Very much in control, strong language, trying to unite, and not blaming Trump for everything. Can he steal them Dem ticket?
Great news @jayballer73
Also if one country isnāt abiding by the trade deal? Is it really a trade deal anymore?
All I can say on the protectionism. Yea I get it, but what we were doing wasnāt working either. Something had to be done. We canāt just keep kicking the can down the road.
I think where Trump went wrong is creating a war with the media. It doesnāt help him trying to get his agenda done. Like trying to fix our trade deals. Without the support it becomes just a trade war, and why it was needed gets lost.
Well to be fair the trade war was in place before the coronavirus epidemic. The problem with the free trade theroy. Is that the Chinese government was taking advantage of US trade policies as many other countries like Mexico and Canada. Unfair trade practices does not equal fair trade. You have to have a balance weāre both countries/nations benefit or itās not fair. I do not condemn anybody for disliking Trump. However when one person becomes a source of everything that is wrong in this government and the world? Then I just tune out. Whatās the point? Itās like saying Obama was to blame for everything that happened while he was in office, or Bill Clinton is to blame for everything that went wrong with NAFTA. I read his autobiography, actually was good read.
As for a politician Calling voters names. That goes both ways my friend. Remember the deplorableās? I mean hell being a republican or conservative youāre basically called a racist, homophobe, sexist, and whatever. No matter what the issue is. All I can tell you is when I post I try be as truthful as my knowledge will allow me to be.
@FarmerJayhawk im starting to get this feeling You donāt even read what I post. You just see my name and form assumptions. To bad just like somebody that posts on here.
Please explain to me how itās the current presidents fault that a mighty nation like the US has become so reliant on a communist country for their much needed medicines. A point you have yet to disprove. I mean I do appreciate you playing the semantics card but the truth is United States of America is reliant on China for key medicines. Yes youāre right at this point the supply chain has not been disrupted. But whoās to say it will stay that way. The point that I was trying to make if you would have read my post.
It appears to me that Youāre not a true libertarian. A true libertarian will sit down and debate the facts of the situation. Iām sorry but from what I can see youāre nothing but a Trump hater. You want to blame him for everything even when itās not his fault. Iām willing to bet you blame the Republican Party for this fiasco of trying to pass a stimulus package for the coronavirus epidemic. All the while ignoring that the Dems and Nancy Pelosi tried putting in all this other stuff I mean like $45 million for the Kennedy Center. Nothing like a party trying to take advantage of the American people in trying times.
@jayballer73 throwing up some prayers for you and your family
Not my problem. I posted two different sites, to show itās not a hoax claim. Not much more I can do.
Ny times is hardly a rep site. Google it, and pick the site that is more to your liking. Iām not spouting new news here. Itās common knowledge. There are articles dating back as early as 08.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
This factoid made me go hmm... "The Food and Drug Administration does not gather precise figures on the volume of drugs made overseas ā only the number of facilities making them. According to that data, 72 percent of manufacturing facilities making active pharmaceutical ingredients for American drugs were overseas, with 13 percent in China."
Yes, a substantial amount of drugs are made in China. But your claim, "we sent over all our abilities to make medicine to the Chinese" is just wrong on its face. And as a matter of economics starting a trade war or putting tariffs on Chinese products will make those drugs we do import more expensive. Do you want that?
Nah we should just allow a foreign country to run roughshod over us. Just let them do as they wish. As for the point on medicine the Proof is in the details. Itās Easy to throw out a graph and say see we manufacture medicine. Yet when we get in the details of what kind of medicines that are actually made then itās a game changer.
These are facts That cannot be denied or ignored. Somebody was asleep at the wheel and it wasnāt the current President.
some narratives just donāt change, when there is to much evidence and agreement that it is indeed true.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
@DoubleDD said in Differentiating fact from opinion on COVID-19:
I mean @bskeet as we sent over all our abilities to make medicine to the Chinese because itās cheaper todo so. Or is it?
Why canāt this narrative die https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/IPG3254N ā
https://nationalinterest.org/feature/china-threatens-throw-america-mighty-sea-coronavirus-130877 ā
I mean @bskeet as we sent over all our abilities to make medicine to the Chinese because itās cheaper todo so. Or is it?