Lucas leads KU with 7 rebounds. Valentine is 1 rebound away from a triple double...
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speed kills...
Woohooo Perry..
Refs are learning on the job...not a good thing.
Some of the call are hard to understand....
The so called October Surprise is the standard go to line by all that did not like Reagan...and yet there is no evidence whatsoever that it ever happened as described.
Th writer is quoting Diallo's handler's lawyer...what do you expect him to say?. See my post above, the analogy does not apply.
Great mind think alike. I was watching parts of the Oregon-Baylor game and after a while I had to turn the channel as I could not stand all that neon...or the court. I understand that there is some artistic value involved in the design of the court, but art belongs in an Art Gallery and not in a basketball court floor; I just don't care for that court at all.
The Iranians released the hostages the day Reagan was inaugurated because they knew that, unlike Carter, he would not have hesitated using force to free the hostages. Their choice was release the hostage or be sent to meet the virgins in heaven on short notice.
Much like Obama now, Carter had a wet noodle for a spine and when he finally decided to act, he tied the hands of the military and the ensuing rescue operation was a complete and utter disaster.
How about this gem by our leader in his statement after the Paris terrorist attack.
" I don’t want to speculate at this point in terms of who was responsible for this..."
This after it was widely reported by the press that the terrorists were yelling 'Allahu Akbar' and the President of France had already identified on the record the attackers as Islamic terrorists...
His press conference yesterday was an utter embarrassment and it likely encouraged Islamic terrorists to attack the US. I hate to say this but I am afraid that the next attack will be here, our homeland.
The remote is a great convenience but most everything that you can do with a remote you can do with the buttons that every TV set has on one of the sides or bottom. Same thing with cable boxes, the buttons on the front will allow you to do anything you need...minus the convenience of the remote.... :)
The loss by Virginia was a surprise...is their perfect storm stretch over?
Technically Cliff was not found to be ineligible; KU simply chose not to play him just in case. I imagine that after he left the investigation was deemed inconsequential and closed.
I don''t think so. ISU might not contend for the title but it will be up there, so will OU and WV and Baylor and Texas, Most conferences have a few good teams and a bunch of also runs, the Big 2 has bunch of good teams and a few also runs.
I imagine both teams are still trying to find the right combinations but with this game being so big (both teams have votes in ESPN to win the NCAA) and with both coaches being competitive, I can see here both will revert to using tested players and not do much experimentation. Unless the game becomes one sided, I expect to see an 8, maybe 9 man rotation, with 7 getting the lion's share of playing time.
Presumed innocent until proven guilty? Are you kidding me?
The only place where an individual is presumed innocent until proven guilty applies is in a court of law where the individual has been formally charged with crime and it is the job of the prosecution to prove guilt and until it does so he is presumed innocent. An application for clearance by the NCAA is not a legal proceeding or a court of law.
Try applying for loan...
A credit card,...
A drivers license...
An occupational license...
Tags for your car...
Professional license...
Building permit...
Mortgage loan...
Property title...
...and yes, clearance to play NCAA sports.
All the processes above require submitting documentation in a timely manner, and once you do and it is verified to meet the requirements you get you license, or you tags, or you loan or you title...and until you do so, you are not presumed to be innocent or guilty since it does not apply; you simply are told that you have not met the requirements and until you do so you will either not get what you applied for or the loan, or credit card, or what have you or it will be denied. Again, there is no innocence or guilt attached because it does not apply.
Diallo has not been found "guilty" of anything because there is nothing to be found guilty of, he simply has not submitted the information required or met the requirement to get clearance and until he does, he will not get clearance or at some point it will be denied. It is really that simple.
Posters are writing that the NCAA is not following its own rules...what rules is it exactly not following?...and how do you know this since we really don't know what is going on behind closed doors or why the process has been delayed? Let's stop presenting conjectures and guesses as facts...we have plenty of the first and very little of the last..
As a Jayhawk fan I want Diallo cleared as much as anyone here; however, I will not let that enthusiasm cloud my judgement and jump to unproven conclusions. Do I care about the NCAA? Not much, but I also understand that it is just doing its job. Just my opinion and I fully understand that others have opinions that are different than mine and I respect that and it does not make either of us right or wrong...just different.
I am sorry but what makes you think that I don;t want Diallo cleared? Just because I respect rules and regulation does not mean I am against Diallo.
Have you stopped for minute and considered that maybe Diallo did not submit all the required documentation like most every other applicant does? Should the NCAA make an exception for him just because he is now at KU and the people in this Forum are getting impatient? If they make an exception for him, why not for others? Pretty soon everybody just gets waved and why even bother? The concept of setting a precedent such as this is called is called a "slippery slope" and once it starts it does not stop.
I just read that the NCAA receives 200,000 applications every year....think about it...200,000 applications and the vast majority of those sail through without a problem and only a handful have issues. The NCAA is doing what it was tasked to do, nothing more and nothing less; I just don't understand why it is attacked as if it would be the guilty party. The people that make the rules are mostly Athletic Directors of programs (such as KU) that voluntarily join the NCAA; if the rules are so bad, why is it that they don't change them? This is the equivalent of blaming a police officer for enforcing the law and giving you a speeding ticked when you exceed the posted speed limit. You can argue that the posted speed limit is way too low...see how well it works with a judge...you will be told to talk to the City Traffic/Planning department and get the speed limit changed, but as long as it is in effect and you exceed it, you get a ticket.
Interjecting an attorney in the process does not change anything. Unfortunately our society has changed so much that now surveys show that most people consider lawsuits and the lottery as the top two ways to become a millionaire...whatever happen to hard work? If we change our system where the losing party pays the legal fees, as it is done in many countries, we would see a huge drop in lawsuits. As our laws currently stand, lawyers will sue anyone and for any reason because, particularity big corporations, will pay them to go away since it is cheaper than incurring legal fees that even they win they cannot recover. So color me unimpressed by lawyers being involved.
I just posted and article from the KC Star that basically said the same thing I did, so apparently it is not losing "face and credibility" with individuals that follow the NCAA for a living and understated the role it plays. The NCAA is losing face with individual that do not have clue of how the process works, have no information on why Diallo has not been cleared and choose to blame the NCAA since it is a convenient and easy target
As business person, I have to deal with lots of rules regulations, many of which are ridiculous and I don't like, but as long as there are in effect, I have no choice but to follow them and comply with the law. You want biased and unfair treatment? Try dealing with the IRS. I have written my congressman in the past to bring to their attention some of the silly laws in effect and in the last 20 years, some have been changed and the ones that have not been changed? ...I still have to follow them. Last time I checked, we are still a country or laws...or at least we pretend to be one...
Sorry I meant to say Memphis and Rose...all of Cal;ipari's messes seem to merge together. The wins were taken away from Memphis because they were aware of the issue before the start of the season and they still played Rose and did not notify the NCAA. KU would have wins taken away only if it would have played Cliff after it found out about the loan or was officially notified by the NCAA. Like I said, unless the NCAA can prove the KU knew of the loan before it was notified, did nothing about it and did not notify the NCAA, then it is highly unlikely they take any wins from KU. Just my opinion.
I am not sure we can infer much from the number of fouls called; unlike the KU game, it looks like not that many fouls were called. It will heavily depend on how the refereeing crew calls the game. A tight called game favor KU since it has a deeper bench and good free throw shooters. If the refs decide to "let the players play" it will favor MSU and its short bench and inferior FT shooting.
Timing, timing, timing. White's timing to play at KU could not have been any worse; at any other time it could have been quite different,
The NCAA has to follow its rules and regulation and not what the twitter world believes. Bilas and Vitale can scream as loud as they can and it will change nothing, they have no standing and their opinion, although with bigger audience, counts just as much as our does...which we know is zero. Unfortunately, that is reality.
If you are referring to Kentucky, the wins were taken retroactively because UK knew about the issue, conducted its own in-house investigation, determined there was no problem (big surprise) and did not inform the NCAA...so, the NCAA took the wins from the time UK new about the issue. KU, on the other hand, the same day it was informed of the investigation by the NCAA, sat Cliff's butt and never played again; it acted by the book. Unless the NCAA can prove that KU knew about this issue earlier and did not inform the NCAA, I see no jeopardy for KU.
Since we really don't know any thing about either case and the people in the know are not talking all we can do is guess.
I am sure student privacy laws prevent the NCAA from disclosing information and its own regulation likely require discretion while the investigation is active.
Unlikely that it would happen. As soon as KU was officially notified, Cliff was benched for that evening's game and he never played again, so the chances of KU getting penalized are pretty remote.
If today's team shows up...any thing is possible...
They must have read my post and decided to really show up today. :) :) :)
First KU game I have enjoyed in a while. KU on the 50 yard line with 3 minutes to go and a chance to take the lead with TD. wow and I mean WOW!!!
Spoke too soon....interception...dang...
WOW!!! KU giving TCU all it can handle...Great TD run to get within 6 with 6+ minutes left in the 4th quarter. Getting excited...maybe this is the one...
Really? and I mean REALLY? This all you have? Nothing personal since I don't know you from Adam...but your statement is so lame in so many levels that it does not even merit a response.
BTW, Reagan did not "attack" Grenada, he simply sent troops to rescue American students held hostage by an illegal government supported by Cuban troops there. The entire operation was over in hours with minimal casualties and was at the level of a multi-service military exercise.
Do you know that the date of the "invasion" is now a national holiday in Grenada, called Thanksgiving Day? I bet you think Castro is a great leader and Che Guevara was a hero...oh well.
10-10 at the half...very impressive showing by KU so far; very even stats. KU had a good first half against Texas last week and its lack of depth doomed them in the second half. TCU needs a big win to have a remote chance to make it to the playoffs; a non-convincing win or loss and they are out...let's play the spoiler...
Watching the game and KU seems to be playing with conviction. Very impressive so far and hopefully they can keep it up in the second half...
Unfortunately in my area you have to sign in to ESPN3 through the ISP and it is blocked at that level so there is no way round it... :(
Although this is a sports forum sometimes we need to take a stand against true evil, This event affects not only the French people but the rest of the world as a war has now been declared by "Islamic Terrorists" ...yes, Mr. President, I call them Islamic Terrorists which is exactly what they are, against the rest of the world and they are emboldened by leaders lacking intestinal fortitude and conviction in our beliefs....
Brace yourselves, things will not get better when we have leaders that refuse to call evil for what it is...
Interesting...last night ESPN had the headline "Kentucky destroys Albany." Today the headline has been changed to "Kentucky beat Albany" and there is a long article "is Kentucky overrated?" you really can't make this stuff up...
Some interesting scores...
ISU barely beats Colorado - ISU might not be a contender in the conference?
Wisconsin loses to Western Illinois - The fairy tale is over.
Texas loses to Washington - Welcome to the big leagues Shaka...only Big 12 losing team on opening night; not a good way to start the season.
NC State loses to William and Mary 85-86 - WTF?
UK unimpressive beating Albany by 12, outscores Albany by 2 points in second half.
LSU beats McNeese State by 11 - should have been by 30 or 40 if you read all the hype about Ben Simmons which ESPN has anointed the "Face of basketball." They were outscored in the second half. Not impressed..
Live stats at KU Athletics web site... ↗
Enjoy...
It was all over sports radio today and the talk was that he was at least partially forced out because his support of the football team on the racial issue at MU which led to the resignation of the School president. I am sure big time donors were not happy and the cancer announcement, as callous as it seems, was a convenient cover. I am not saying this is correct or not because I just don't know...or care, it is Missouri after all. Best luck to coach Pinkel, he seems like a nice person and did lot for the MU football program...perhaps best coach ever at MU, although Dan Devine would be up there as well.
I did not mention that a player must be 18 years old. The rules is that the player must be 19 years old on the year of the draft and one year removed from what would have been his graduating class. Maker will be 19 next February and could have graduated last season but chose to go an extra year. In many countries prep schools are considered post-HS and this is why it was widely assumed Maker chose to go to one in Canada and not one in the States.
I know...but watching the football team is painful too. We just get no breaks.. :(
Let's see what the score is against TCU who will be pi$$ed and wanting to make a statement. The Vegas lines is 45 and climbing...
Thon Maker has made a lot of progress since the USA vs the World game where his weaknesses were exposed. He did very well in Summer camps and with an additional year of HS he could be a real superstar...however, it is possible that he will claim that he stayed an extra year at a prep school and his real graduating class was one year ago and so he is eligible for the NBA...
Big difference...if the KU football team refuses to play, we would tell them so sorry to hear that but you must do what you must do...while we look up and mouth the words...thank you Lord! Just kidding...I think...
Your information on the Rose case is not correct. The NCAA did not know of the SAT test until after the Educational Testing Service - Not the NCAA- voided Rose's SAT score after Rose's freshman year at Memphis, then it had no choice but to retroactively rule him ineligible as the rules require, it also took the wins from Memphis because it was determined that Memphis knew of the issue before the beginning of the season and did not do anything about it and, more importantly, did not notify the NCAA of the issue. The NCAA went by the book and this is why no one had a case against it.
On the other hand, on May 2010, Rose, former Memphis basketball coach John Calipari, and Memphis athletic director R.C. Johnson reached a $100,000 out-of-court settlement with three attorneys who represented Memphis season ticket holders and threatened a lawsuit over the vacated 2007–08 season. Like I said nobody had a case against the NCAA because it acted exactly the way it should have; Rose, Calipari and the AD were at fault, were sued and had to settle.
Bruce Pearl and Larry Brown, among others, will tell you that there is a bigger penalty for covering violations or lying to the NCAA, than actually admitting the violation and taking a lesser penalty.
Interesting how much you and I agree in areas not related to Coach Self.
Excellent post, I was going to post much of what you wrote but you did very well. What amazes me is that in our current environment where every little incident is amply documented by dozens of cell phone cameras, yet the 3 alleged incidents that started the whole thing at MU have not a single piece of evidence to back them up.
First, there is the alleged "poop-swastika" that was allegedly smeared on a bathroom and which I would think is more an insult to white supremacists than to black people; not a single photograph of that appears to exist. The other two involved individuals yelling the "N" word, one on campus and the off campus...how exactly is the chancellor responsible for event off campus escapes me...and yet again not a single picture or video.
Also interesting that the Student Body President is not only gay...but also black; so much for intolerance at MU. He is also the one that made the false allegation the KKK was on campus and had to retract later with no consequences to his absolute dangerous allegation. And the kid that went on a hunger strike alleging white privilege and the raising cost of graduate school? Well...he grew up in a $1.5M mansion in Omaha and his father makes $6M per year...if MU was so bad to black students...why is he there in his 8th year in college?
These events have created an extreme dangerous precedent, in short, the inmates are running the asylum. Any group that feels oppressed, whether it is true or not is apparently not important, now is free to demand the resignation of the head of any institution...and get away with it...
The professor that would not postpone a test because alleged fear by a few students was labeled a racist and basically force to resign while the liberal professor that attempted to prevent a student reporter form exercising his right to report and asked for "muscle" to forcibly remove him...is still teaching. Un-effin'-believable.
Finally, here is a pots from a reasonable MU student which I believe is typical of the majority...
One has to wonder how long before she is labeled a racist and expelled from MU...I will say it again...Un-effin'-believable.
Diallo did not retain legal counsel, his guardian did.
What if you don’t live in a state?
I am not sure what you are referring to but I was referring to public HSs in this country; obviously if you live in this country you will live in one of the states. Anyone that reside in this country is eligible to attend public schools...million of illegal...oops, make that "undocumented aliens" seem to have no problem doing it. Diallo could have easily attended the local High School in the town in New York where he lived instead of Our Savior and probably he would not be having these issues.
Sounds like it was a great game and KU barely lost 3-2. Of course, because of %$#@^#%$# Zenger I was not able to watch it. :(
A heartfelt thank you to all those who served in the military, have a great Veteran's Day.
Is Greene headed to a Red Shirt Season, injured or in the dog house?
Thanks. Big proposal to finish up any way...
I don't know who will be the big winner but I know who the big losers will be...all the fans that will not be able to watch the game because of %$#@*(! Zenger.