tundrahok said:

KJ #3. In 6 minutes.

Not athletic enough to guard.

DCHawker said:

Where exactly did this come from??? And, can we sustain it???

KJs length and rebounding actually making a difference. At least when he isn’t fouling

Bwag said:

Kcmatt7 said:

Dedric won’t be back next season.

There is the combine

Lol

Dedric won’t be back next season.

Woodrow said:

Kcmatt7 said:

Woodrow said:

Can we officially write Grimes off? It looks like Bill has.

This team needs him to get better if they want to be any good. No other options.

I 100% agree with that. However, I think that ship has sailed.

You might be right, but giving up on him is like accepting a sweet 16. Need him to have that Newman moment where it clicks finally.

Woodrow said:

Can we officially write Grimes off? It looks like Bill has.

This team needs him to get better if they want to be any good. No other options.

Takes shoulder in the chest, yet somehow a block?

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

BShark said:

Kcmatt7 said:

I don’t usually condone flopping, but Thornton is basically asking for an offensive foul yet we kee picking up blocks

This team just doesn't take charges. Probably a Bill Self stupid pride thing.

I like the fact that this team doesn't take charges tbh.

Well you can’t just let guys with NFL linebacker size bully their way in over and over. At some point enough is enough.

DanR said:

Actually ran a play after the timeout even though Dotson was afraid to pull the trigger on the lob, but that's a good sign and we got the second choice shot. NOW SLOW IT DOWN ON OFFENSE for these young kids, Bill.

I said this weeks ago. Lawson in the half court is better than anyone else. Slow the pace. Force other teams to execute half court. We suck in transition anyways.

I don’t usually condone flopping, but Thornton is basically asking for an offensive foul yet we kee picking up blocks

Ochai and Lawson are the only two players catching the ball ready to shoot.

BeddieKU23 said:

Teams KU has beaten in the polls:

1 Tennessee, #6 Michigan St, #12 Marquette, #18 Villanova.

This is absolutely amazing. It also makes losing to a legitimately bad WVU team all the more frustrating.

Did anyone thing that Hogan catch was actually a catch?

Ford's offsides was obviously the straw that broke the camel's back. Pat probably makes that throw to Williams 90 out of 100 times.

But to me, the biggest thing was the opening drive. 8 minutes of clock and Pat and the offense sitting in the cold. The worst part was that it didn't even look like Bob Sutton watched any film from the Chargers game last week. Press man, stack the box, and shut down James White. That is how you beat the Pats. Instead we played soft, let them run the ball and did not cover White.

The second biggest thing to me was that Andy made nearly no first half adjustments to combat the aggressive pass rush. No screens, no quick passes, no draw plays, nothing. Andy did no set up the offense for success. He should have scrapped his script the second he saw the Pats doing nothing but press man with 8 in the box. Should have immediately been screens and the Travis Kelce show until the D backed off.

I mean, seriously, we beat the pants off of them in the 2nd half once we made these basic adjustments. We had the more talented players. BB is just simply the best coach in the NFL by miles. I mean this is probably the worst Patriots team to make the Superbowl in his tenure. But they did it...

We will get one with Pat though. No doubt in my mind.

Self know how to develop them over years, absolutely. But he’s clueless as to how to coach with them in game when they’re this young. And most of it is his own strange trust issues.

He hasn’t lost the team. They seem to play hard, imo. He just doesn’t know how to coach underclassmen guards.

tundrahok said:

Kcmatt7 said:

And now we are sitting Ochai and stunting his growth and killing confidence.

Ochai today wasn't playing like we've seen previously. 3 turnovers in 4 minutes, missed his only shot under the basket, his first miss at the rim in the games he's played. Sitting him the 2nd half wasn't a horrible idea. He'll bounce back.

How does it benefit him to sit him?

HighEliteMajor said:

Garrett is attacking the rim. Props there. That makes his lineup presence a positive. Really like what I've seen.

It's a bit sad that we can script something for Dedric.

Heck, Dotson couldn't even get open to get the ball in his hands.

SDS becoming eligible is perhaps THE key moving forward.

@Kcmatt7 I've been over the streak for quit a while .. like since it started. We play this game as a blue blood to be a champion. It's like the Braves winning the NL East. Nice streak. Impressive. One title.

BUT THIS IS FAR FROM OVER ON ALL FRONTS. Lots of season left. Heck, we could win the tourney as a 5 seed.

It just became the one goal. Instead of a part of the journey. Self even seems overly fixated on it.

BShark said:

Kcmatt7 said:

I’m over the streak. I just want to see this team improve every game. That includes Self getting better in the 2nd half. He has to be one of the worst coach from minutes 21-38 in the country.

This is where I am at with it too. As anyone besides Garrett improved much over the course of the season?

Nope. And with Doke gone we are a team without an offensive identity. Our guards don’t see the floor well enough to get any sort of offensive flow. And now we are sitting Ochai and stunting his growth and killing confidence.

As good as Bill Self is, there is a reason for only one NC. He is competitive to a fault and stunts team development. My opinion at least.

I’m over the streak. I just want to see this team improve every game. That includes Self getting better in the 2nd half. He has to be one of the worst coach from minutes 21-38 in the country.

Don’t think I can even find joy rooting against Kentucky now

We haven’t gotten better at any of our flaws this season. Besides Garrett, zero growth from this team.

Refs not to blame for the loss. Self went into his turtle shell the 2nd half.

What an embarrassing loss. That makes 3

wissox said:

Tennessee might lose. If they do 3 of the top 4 teams are going to lose today.

Can’t all 4? Can we just shoot a missile at Cameron indoor?

@justanotherfan the Garrett dedric PnR game looks deadly...

BAMA 👀

BShark said:

Like, what is going through KJ's mind that he is thinking "I got this"???

“IVe JuSt BEeN OFF. IM dUe.”

KJ needs to learn his role on this team.

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

My God CALL A FOUL

But why? WVU never actually fouls

Refs just call sympathy fouls on them to make it fair

BeddieKU23 said:

My God CALL A FOUL

Big 12 ref: NO

This is as much basketball as jam ball was with the trampolines.

BeddieKU23 said:

Lawson the boss

Love that he’s getting physical

I’m confident I could give KJ a game 1v1

Where’s Vick chasing Svis record from last season?

BShark said:

Kcmatt7 said:

DanR said:

To be fair, Frank Mason did not run a good break his freshman and sophomore years either.

Dotson is much better than Freshman Frank

Not close but I do wonder how Frank would have done if he got DD minutes.

I just remember Frank getting swatted at the rim about 1000 times lol

DanR said:

To be fair, Frank Mason did not run a good break his freshman and sophomore years either.

Dotson is much better than Freshman Frank

BShark said:

Kcmatt7 said:

KJ has no business playing in this game

Yeah...my KJ hot takes are looking rancid rn.

You couldn’t have projected he’d be a D2 level player

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Wow are we bad in transition.

Amazing for how athletic we are

KJ has no business playing in this game

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

What the HELL IS THAT CALL

lolololololol

KUGetsAllTheCalls

No seriously what did they call?

I’m lagging so I was looking for it and saw nothing

kjayhawks said:

The more physical the game gets, the less effective Dedric is. We are missing our muscle in Doke today big time.

Get Big Dave more minutes. Was good in the first half. Rebounded really well.

wissox said:

Interesting that WVU hasn't been pressing much.

I don’t think they can go 10 deep like usual.

Bwag said:

DCHawker said:

I missed the entire first half - perhaps a good thing - 23 effing points??? Anything one thing account for the putridness...

Turnovers and some missed shots up close

Don’t forget neither team got in the bonus

WVU with 4th best HCA on Kenpom

And I hate complaining about refs, but this is outrageous every single season.

Seriously, the difference in how each team is officiated is crazy. “It wasn’t THAT bad of a hip check” vs typical fouls called.

How do you prep for this game? Get the football team to scrimmage against?

The number of hip checks they get away with is a joke.

With basically 2 secondary ball handlers on the court at all times...

A joke we are tied in fouls