I'm hoping Dotson's body holds up because he isn't coming off the floor unless he has to this year or when KU is blowing someone out.
@HighEliteMajor There's multiple 30 for 30's out there that detail the downfall of programs. Three right off the top of my head are on SMU (Pony Express era), Miami (The U, 80's and 00's), and there's one on USC a d the Reggie Bush era I believe.
This is why the NCAA needs to modify their rules. Everyone knows rules are being broken and the NCAA either can't or won't enforce their rules across the board.
When an organization isn't capable of enforcing their own rules, they have to find a way to be able to enforce their rules, or they need to change their rules to something they can enforce.
We know Coach K and Duke has paid players going back to at least Corey Maggette.
@Crimsonorblue22 College is different in that all plays are looked at by a review team in a studio somewhere and when they see something, they buzz the referee so he can stop play.
I don't know the wording of the rule for the Carter Stanley fumble play. I don't think that was a fumble, but it might be according to how the rule for that is written since we've seen it twice with Stanley this year.
The helmet to helmet was definitely a missed call that would've been a momentum play and the WVU player would've been suspended for the first half of their next game as well.
I didn't really have an issue with how they were calling the receivers and DB's because they were letting them play and it went both ways. Some people are focusing on what WVU got away with in that regard while not paying attention to what KU got away with as well. On Lassiter's TD, Daylon Charlot got away with a big hold that allowed the TD. On the replay, Charlot clearly had a handful of jersey on the DB's back which easily could've been called a hold and took that TD off the board.
@FarmerJayhawk Considering there really weren't many returning starters, if any, last year that aren't starting this year, I'd say his and his assistant coaches talent evaluation was fine.
Beaty's biggest weakness as a head coach was his management ability, both in game and with the coaching staff. Beaty was too hands on with his staff and not delegating responsibilities to his assistants. His in game management and play calling definitely left much to be desired.
He inherited a team that couldn't win a game. He left Les Miles a roster that's a QB away from being a bowl team this year.
@kjayhawks TCU is almost always competitive even when logic says it shouldn't be close. Texas Tech isn't very good this year, but still better than KU. Baylor didn't look good today, but at the end of the season, KU may be looking at players for next year at that point. I don't see a game left that KU won't be a double digit underdog in.
Another issue this year that the defense has only forced two turnovers so far this season and both were in the first game against ISU. The defense isn't helping the offense out as much like last year. Unless they start forcing turnovers, I really don't see KU winning another game this year.
@FarmerJayhawk Peyton Bender committed 3 turnovers all of last year. Carter Stanley already has more. I've never argued that Bender was an elite QB, but he had two attributes that allowed KU to win 3 games last year. He protected the football and didn't take a lot of bad sacks. Bender was an adequate game manager that was a respected enough passer that defenses couldn't load up against the run.
Carter Stanley doesn't have either of those traits. Stanley had another bad game today that cost KU a victory they should've had. I don't see KU winning 4 games this year with Stanley at QB because he isn't good enough. He's only had two good games in his career at KU. There's a reason he could never take the starting job from Cozart or Bender.
KU maybe wins one more game at this point.
@kjayhawks WVU only started one drive inside KU's 40 and that was the first onside kick. They had a couple of other drives that started on KU's side, but only one inside the 40. The Carter Stanley INT did lead to what was the game winning TD for WVU. KU had scored on the previous two drives before the pick and scored after the pick, so it's a safe bet KU would've scored on that force without the pick as well.
Turnovers lost the game for KU tonight.
KU would be 4-0 with Peyton Bender at QB this year.
Turnovers are a big difference this year. KU is -6 on the year now in turnover margin.
I liked the play call considering Stanley's arm and WVU wasn't expecting the hook and lateral.
Parchment shouldn't have hesitated on that pitch, Pooka had a cut back open.
@DanR Over compensating for the pick because that was underthrown.
@Crimsonorblue22 I think repeating Parchment's TD is more likely.
Best case now is KU gets the ball back with about 30 seconds left.
@DanR Pretty much as this point.
If KU kicks deep, best case is they get the ball back with around 1:20 left around their own 30-35 yard line.
I don't trust the defense to go 3 and out now so I'd onside it and hope for the best.
KU has to onside if they score now.
Defensive holding!
Robinson coming up big this drive.
I'd like to see Pooka split out to the same side as Parchment and put one of the in motion.
@DanR The defense was just fine after that Parchment TD. The Stanley pick is what broke them because the defense kept giving the offense opportunities today. That pick took the air out of the stadium.
@DanR Stanley's pick is what killed the momentum for KU.
There's been plenty of holds on KU that haven't been called either. Charlot was holding on the first TD today and wasn't called. Refs have been equal on the holds. The targeting is the only really bad missed call today.
Stanley stared him down the whole time
Dammit!
@Crimsonorblue22 9 points.
@nuleafjhawk The ball doesn't have to hit the ground, but taking away the kick catch interference call and the ability to fair catch is why kickers usually pop the ball off the ground onside attempts.
That pass a thing of beauty, probably the best pass Stanley has made as a Jayhawk.
@DanR It was the right call. Until the ball touches the ground, the kicking team has to allow the receiving team the opportunity to catch the ball without interference. That ball never touched the ground on that onside attempt, so WVU had to have an opportunity to field it cleanly. It's the same rule as a punt.
That situation is exactly why kickers usually pop the ball off the ground on onside kicks. It takes away the receiving team's ability to call a fair catch and it allows the kicking team a better shot at a recovery as well.
@Crimsonorblue22 It's more common on punts. Because the kicker didn't pop the ball off the ground, the receiving team has to have an opportunity to field the kick just like if it was a punt. Had KU's kicker popped the ball off the ground first, it would've been KU's ball.
Impressed with how many students are still there.
The call was because the kicker didn't pop the ball off the ground first. Unfortunately it was the right call based the replay.
Bullshit call!
I didn't see a penalty there.
And Liam holding his hammy after that kick.
Bad decision! Lucky that wasn't a pick
@Crimsonorblue22 Fullback
@nuleafjhawk Still rather have Pooka at RB. Stanley at FB.
And then Stanley made the wrong read.
Stanley looks a lot better on this drive.
Jet sweep to Parchment would be nice now.
Keep Manny in at QB!
KU needs a response this possession.
Looks exactly like WVU's first drive
That draw play has killed the defense all day.
Good thing he dropped that one.
@stoptheflop I'm really wondering how much the wind is affecting Stanley and therefore affecting the play calling.
And WVU gets the ball to start the 2nd half as well.
Defense is too conservative this drive. WVU shouldn't have been able to get into FG range. Hopefully they miss this one too.