🏀 KuBuckets Archive

@jayballer67 said in KU Ladies tourney time:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU Ladies tourney time:

@jayballer67 said in KU Ladies tourney time:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU Ladies tourney time:

@jayballer67 said in KU Ladies tourney time:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU Ladies tourney time:

@jayballer67 said in KU Ladies tourney time:

@AsadZ said in KU Ladies tourney time:

Rely on starters tho, no bench, same as Men's team

no your wwrong , they have some really good bench pieces

They pretty much only go 6 deep. The team averages 73 ppg and the starters account for 63 ppg. Their bench doesn't provide much.

eh I don't necessarily agre about all that. I still think their bench is adequate - I've watched everyone of their games and haven't been disappointed in their play

This was a team that was expected to finish top half of the Big 12 and make the NCAA Tournament with a fairly high seed. The lack of a bench was a big part in the failure to meet those expectations and why they're in the WNIT instead.

not going to arg--their bench is very doable. - -Chatzileonti -Avg 26.6 pg game 5.9 rpg- Mayberry part time starter - -part time bench - -pretty dam good. Strom decent. A big reason also was when Kirksgeiter went down and missed time-some other like always was poor Coaching- I for one am very happy with how the bench has helped - -they gonna be fine

Chatzileonti hasn't played since mid-January. Mayberry has started 28 games, and became a starter in game 3 and started until she got hurt against TCU in the Big 12 tournament. She was not a part time starter. Holly Kersgeiter missed 3 games in February due to injury. Strom was the only bench player playing good minutes this season once Chatzileonti got injured amd she has averaged 2.7 ppg this year. That's terrible for being the only bench player playing real minutes (17 mpg).

In KU's last 15 games, they've got double digit points from the bench four times. They also had four games where they got 0 points from the bench. 5.5 ppg from the bench isn't good no matter what you think and that's what KU has gotten from their bench in the last 15 games. Lack of a bench is why the ladies are in the WNIT instead of the NCAA Tournament and why they couldn't beat 1 win TCU in the Big 12 tournament.

lmao- -yada yada yada -- sounds more like the mens bench then the ladies-thanks for your input

Go look at the actual box scores if you think I'm full of shit about the women's bench contributing basically nothing.

@Kcmatt7 said in NCAA NON- KU GAMES:

Someone tell me NIL and transfers only benefits the best teams. A mid-major WILL be in the title game

I don't think Creighton is considered a mid major anymore since they moved to the Big East.

Haha!!! Bye bye kitties!!!

@wissox said in NCAA NON- KU GAMES:

I don't want KSU in the Elite 8 to become a regular thing either.

I'd be fine with them reaching the E8 every 5 years only to lose to the flavor of the month 8-9 seed mid major like they did 5 years ago to the Fighting Sister Jean's.

@jayballer67 said in KU Ladies tourney time:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU Ladies tourney time:

@jayballer67 said in KU Ladies tourney time:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU Ladies tourney time:

@jayballer67 said in KU Ladies tourney time:

@AsadZ said in KU Ladies tourney time:

Rely on starters tho, no bench, same as Men's team

no your wwrong , they have some really good bench pieces

They pretty much only go 6 deep. The team averages 73 ppg and the starters account for 63 ppg. Their bench doesn't provide much.

eh I don't necessarily agre about all that. I still think their bench is adequate - I've watched everyone of their games and haven't been disappointed in their play

This was a team that was expected to finish top half of the Big 12 and make the NCAA Tournament with a fairly high seed. The lack of a bench was a big part in the failure to meet those expectations and why they're in the WNIT instead.

not going to arg--their bench is very doable. - -Chatzileonti -Avg 26.6 pg game 5.9 rpg- Mayberry part time starter - -part time bench - -pretty dam good. Strom decent. A big reason also was when Kirksgeiter went down and missed time-some other like always was poor Coaching- I for one am very happy with how the bench has helped - -they gonna be fine

Chatzileonti hasn't played since mid-January. Mayberry has started 28 games, and became a starter in game 3 and started until she got hurt against TCU in the Big 12 tournament. She was not a part time starter. Holly Kersgeiter missed 3 games in February due to injury. Strom was the only bench player playing good minutes this season once Chatzileonti got injured amd she has averaged 2.7 ppg this year. That's terrible for being the only bench player playing real minutes (17 mpg).

In KU's last 15 games, they've got double digit points from the bench four times. They also had four games where they got 0 points from the bench. 5.5 ppg from the bench isn't good no matter what you think and that's what KU has gotten from their bench in the last 15 games. Lack of a bench is why the ladies are in the WNIT instead of the NCAA Tournament and why they couldn't beat 1 win TCU in the Big 12 tournament.

@jayballer67 said in KU Ladies tourney time:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in KU Ladies tourney time:

@jayballer67 said in KU Ladies tourney time:

@AsadZ said in KU Ladies tourney time:

Rely on starters tho, no bench, same as Men's team

no your wwrong , they have some really good bench pieces

They pretty much only go 6 deep. The team averages 73 ppg and the starters account for 63 ppg. Their bench doesn't provide much.

eh I don't necessarily agre about all that. I still think their bench is adequate - I've watched everyone of their games and haven't been disappointed in their play

This was a team that was expected to finish top half of the Big 12 and make the NCAA Tournament with a fairly high seed. The lack of a bench was a big part in the failure to meet those expectations and why they're in the WNIT instead.

@wissox said in Who would ever replace Self?:

@AsadZ He's a bit sleazy I think, maybe some coach K wore off on him 30 years ago?

Danny didn't play at Duke. He played at Seton Hall for PJ Carlesimo. Bobby Hurley, the head coach at Arizona St., is the one that played for Coach K at Duke.

UT would absolutely be crazy to not hire Terry as their permanent coach at this point.

@Bosthawk said in NCAA NON- KU GAMES:

First time in NCAA history that not a single 1 seed in elite 8 or final four.

Whomever ends up in the championship game next week, I’d Love to see if anyone anywhere picked the two teams…

March Crap shoot madness

I doubt there's many accurate title game picks from the left side (South and East) of the bracket. There's probably a lot of brackets that have some combination of Texas, Gonzaga, and UConn from the right side (Midwest and West) of the bracket.

Xavier players are losing their composure. Kunkle had a cheapshot on Rice going for a layup.

If Miami gets both teams in the Final Four, would they be the second school to get both basketball teams to the Final Four the same season? I know UConn has done it 3 times with both winning it all in 2004 and 2014, but is there another school that's done it besides UConn?

@kuballin10 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:

@Texas-Hawk-10 You think one of the top transfers wanted to come off the bench versus starting and getting to shoot a ton?

Bill prioritizes defense sometimes too much unfortunately

Obviously he didn't want to since he didn't come here. Doesn't mean I can't wish he had made a different decision. And no, he is not a better player than McCullar which is why I called him a bench piece at KU.

@FarmerJayhawk said in 2023 Transfer Portal:

Almost no chance he’s leaving but I would drop a BAG for Kalkbrenner

I wish we would've landed Scheierman.
He would've been the bench player KU needed this season.

At this point, Go Zags! I wouldn't be upset to see Mark Few finally win a title since that's the only thing missing from his resume.

@jayballer67 said in KU Ladies tourney time:

@AsadZ said in KU Ladies tourney time:

Rely on starters tho, no bench, same as Men's team

no your wwrong , they have some really good bench pieces

They pretty much only go 6 deep. The team averages 73 ppg and the starters account for 63 ppg. Their bench doesn't provide much.

@kjayhawks said in KU Ladies tourney time:

The ladies will be playing Sunday after noon against apparently our nemesis in sports Arkansas. FB lost the bowl game by one point and obviously the MCB lost by a point last weekend. Can the women buck the trend here?

Football lost by 2 points. Next logical step is the game goes on for so long they have to declare it a tie.

@wissox said in NCAA NON- KU GAMES:

Jim Larranaga looking good for back to back Elite 8's.

Houston's weak schedule being exposed as a fraudulent 1 seed.

Go Princeton Tigers! There wouldn't be one American other than the team they're playing cheering against Princeton should they continue this run.

The people who get paid with big ratings for the NCAA tournament are maybe getting a little nervous. While it's fun to see the underdogs, they're almost never ratings powerhouses because the casual observer will tune in for a blue blood FF like last year but won't tune in as much for FAU or SD State, or Princeton, or Xavier or even Kstate. Gonzaga will draw eyeballs but they have a tough draw tomorrow.

@cragarhawk The possibility of a KState final is certainly possible at this point.

I'm still amazed at that no defense KSU-MSU game.

John Higgins I just saw reffing a sweet 16 game it looked like.

Houston lost for two reasons. They play the same style as Virginia, very slow tempo, low possession games and Marcus Sasser has been less than 100% this tournament. With the extreme slow tempo, when they have an off night, it can do downhill really quickly for them the way it did for Virginia 5 years ago.

@cragarhawk said in NCAA NON- KU GAMES:

I mean... the Princeton coach is about to get a job right?

The Princeton coach is a Princeton alum that was on the 1996 team that upset UCLA in the 1st round. Not a guarantee he would leave.

@Jethro said in NCAA NON- KU GAMES:

Packed house at the Midwest Regional in KC. Great job, NCAA!

🐦 View Tweet

Would've looked the same had KU been in the region since they didn't make it past the weekend.

@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:

@Texas-Hawk-10 I think the first date probably matters and Jones wants to and will graduate. We'll see. I do not know the time frame so I'm just speculating.

I believe the dates to announce decisions are only relevant to the NCAA's window on when that can happen, but graduation dates are relevant to when he, or anyone else would actually be able to enroll at KU.

@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:

@jayballer67 said in 2023 Transfer Portal:

@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:

@mayjay said in 2023 Transfer Portal:

@BShark said in 2023 Transfer Portal:

People need to behave when it comes to players not yet in the portal that we are tampering with.

Or people need to not share so-called secret info if they don't want it out.

I always love it on Survivor when someone gets a secret idol and immediately tells someone who promises to keep it a secret. Yep, that will happen. 🙄

Ultimately secrets are hard to keep. Just spoils his announcement that's all mostly.

I'm just wondering when the guys will announce they are transferring into out program. Hopefully not to long. --Has the one actually announced he is even the portal yet ? - - I know you BShark had hinted his name but said he had actually even entered yet. - Ha he officially entered the portal ?

There is Stanford's academic schedule to consider. Last day of finals is today. Conferral of degrees is April 6th.

I don't think that date matter for them to announce anything. It would only be relevant in regards to when they could enroll at KU which would be summer school with Stanford being on the quarters system.

@cragarhawk said in KU Offseason Chef Bill Cooking Thread:

@Texas-Hawk-10 or was he? Per minute? I'd have to research that. I feel like Doke played ALOT more. Udeh gets after the ball a lot. Disrupts defensively almost all the time. Something he would obviously have to back down on a Lil. Like pick his moments if he were playing more obviously

I'm using advanced stats when comparing their numbers. Doke as a freshman only played 11 games and was against non-confernce teams. Doke had a 26.3% defensive rebounding rate meaning when he was on defense, he got just over 1/4 of every rebound on the defensive end of the floor. Doke also had an 18.7% total rebounding rate meaning he got a little under 1/5 of every rebound while he was on the floor. Udeh on the other hand had rebounding rates of 13.2% on defense and 12.1% overall meaning Udeh got about 1/8 rebounds. Doke also had a block rate over 12% meaning he blocked 1 out of every 8 shots he defended while Udeh had a block rate of 7.7% meaning Udeh blocked about 1 out of every 12 shots he defended.

So Doke was quite a bit ahead of Udeh in those areas as freshmen. I'm sure Doke's numbers probably would've reduced some had he stayed healthy his freshmen year, but still would've been significantly better than Udeh.

Zuby Ejiofor is actually the one with the comparable numbers to Doke in those areas as a freshman. Zuby had 24% defensive rebounding rate, 19.1% total rebounding rate, and a block rate of 12.5%. Zuby is actually the better Doke comparison of KU's two freshmen big men last season.

@cragarhawk said in NCAA NON- KU GAMES:

@BShark haha

Isn't fisher one of those guys that you would classify as tough with a week to prepare tho? Crafty Ole veteran. Idk.

Steve Fisher retired 7 years ago. Brian Dutcher has been their coach since then.

@cragarhawk said in KU Offseason Chef Bill Cooking Thread:

@Texas-Hawk-10 could be misremembering on my part and I'll admit that up front. But I would submit Doke wasn't ridiculous outside of 5 ft as a freshman either

Doke was never good outside of 5 feet. With his size, I don't think Self is going to focus much on developing that part of Udeh's game either and with Udeh only being a 40% FT shooter this year, would probably be a fruitless endeavor anyway. Udeh as a freshman was also nowhere near the rebounder or shot blocker that Doke was either.

@cragarhawk said in KU Offseason Chef Bill Cooking Thread:

Do I have delusions of grandeur or does Udeh have the potential to be a monster? Like a more athletic Doke....

I'm actually excited to see where that goes.

I have our corny catch phrase at the ready.

"We Ernestly believe!" How bout it? 😁

I don't think he's more athletic than Doke and he hasn't shown any ability to make a shot outside of 5 feet like Doke. Udeh does have the potential to be a very good college player by his junior or senior season.

@jayballer67 said in NCAA NON- KU GAMES:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in NCAA NON- KU GAMES:

@jayballer67 said in NCAA NON- KU GAMES:

Okay so I very easily could be way off and totally , totally wrong on this but I really don't understand WHY these announcers had to re-hash things that everyone already knows for sure by now and that's Brandon Miller involvement with the Murder that happened. -Just don't feel that needs to be brought up again at this time.

I mean everyone if they are alive knows the details on this - -no charges are brought on Miller he is considered a witness - -let the kid play, it will all come out in the end if it's different- it will work it'self out just didn't think it needed to be brought up AGAIN right now

There's plenty of people watching the game not aware because this is the only time of year they pay any attention to college basketball.

Really that shouldn't matter. - -It was all over the news even not sports related, just like any other that happens.--Just don't feel it was neccessary

Not everybody pays attention to that stuff. I don't think you realize how little some people pay attention to stuff like and are completely unaware or don't know the details of what's happening with with Miller. It's also not anything new. Remember back in 2012 when T-Rob's mom died? That was mentioned every KU game along with the fundraiser for his younger sister.

@jayballer67 said in NCAA NON- KU GAMES:

Okay so I very easily could be way off and totally , totally wrong on this but I really don't understand WHY these announcers had to re-hash things that everyone already knows for sure by now and that's Brandon Miller involvement with the Murder that happened. -Just don't feel that needs to be brought up again at this time.

I mean everyone if they are alive knows the details on this - -no charges are brought on Miller he is considered a witness - -let the kid play, it will all come out in the end if it's different- it will work it'self out just didn't think it needed to be brought up AGAIN right now

There's plenty of people watching the game not aware because this is the only time of year they pay any attention to college basketball.

@BShark said in The need for 2023 bigs:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in The need for 2023 bigs:

@BShark said in The need for 2023 bigs:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in The need for 2023 bigs:

@ReggieKansas said in The need for 2023 bigs:

@BShark I didn't say he was the second coming of wilt chamberlain I just said he's decent

KU only has 12 roster spots available, Self doesn't have room for a pet project right now. KU currently doesn't have a 3 or a 4 on the roster so that's the biggest need in the transfer market, not a long term 5 that would at best start for 1 season here.

2 wings (for 3/4), 1 big guard that can shoot to play next to Juan. 4th spot somewhat up in the air. Imo.

That last spot needs to be another wing otherwise KU is going to be very small next year with no depth at the wing.

I guess it depends what you classify as a wing? All our legit guard targets (that I know of) are 6'5''. I think if you get a guy like that to pair with, random examples here but Spencer Jones 6'7'' and Harrison Ingram 6'8'' then you can probably get by between all that and Marcus Adams as a bench piece? Will be interesting!

With KJ at the 5, you need two other taller players to help with interior defense and rebounding. Running a line up out there with 4 guys that are 6-6 and under will be an issue in the Big 12. Especially given that Self doesn't like to press on defense. The Stanford kids absolutely help with that as they are better defenders than Dick and Wilson were.

@ReggieKansas said in The need for 2023 bigs:

@Texas-Hawk-10 both have struggled but that's not a lock that they transfer. Cuffe can't stay healthy for more than 10 mins. Rice had struggles with health and play. But we will see what happens

Read other threads on here, Cuffe and Rice are gone and it's just a matter when they enter the portal, not if. MJ Rice did not play a minute against Howard. If he was injured, there would've been something said after the game. Him not playing in that game should tell you all you need to know about him.

@BShark said in The need for 2023 bigs:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in The need for 2023 bigs:

@ReggieKansas said in The need for 2023 bigs:

@BShark I didn't say he was the second coming of wilt chamberlain I just said he's decent

KU only has 12 roster spots available, Self doesn't have room for a pet project right now. KU currently doesn't have a 3 or a 4 on the roster so that's the biggest need in the transfer market, not a long term 5 that would at best start for 1 season here.

2 wings (for 3/4), 1 big guard that can shoot to play next to Juan. 4th spot somewhat up in the air. Imo.

That last spot needs to be another wing otherwise KU is going to be very small next year with no depth at the wing.

@ReggieKansas said in The need for 2023 bigs:

@Texas-Hawk-10 are they a lock to leave?

Yes, Cuffe isn't good enough to play here and Rice isn't tough enough to play here.

@ReggieKansas said in The need for 2023 bigs:

@BeddieKU23 4 sure. BTW how many open scholarships do we have now with the transfers?

KU will have 4 open spots once Cuffe and Rice enter the portal.

@ReggieKansas said in The need for 2023 bigs:

@BShark I didn't say he was the second coming of wilt chamberlain I just said he's decent

KU only has 12 roster spots available, Self doesn't have room for a pet project right now. KU currently doesn't have a 3 or a 4 on the roster so that's the biggest need in the transfer market, not a long term 5 that would at best start for 1 season here.

@ReggieKansas said in The need for 2023 bigs:

@BeddieKU23 I agree. I think the kid at tech would be a good add.

Aimaq is at best Landen Lucas 2.0. KU has two bigs with much higher ceilings than him already on the roster.

@ReggieKansas said in The need for 2023 bigs:

@BShark he's Got good foot work and would add some decent depth at the 5

How many long term project big men have worked out for Self and made it to the starting lineup or even rotation? None, they all end up transferring to a mid major or lower because Self recruits over them and they never fully develop to a Big 12 caliber player.

@kjayhawks said in NCAA NON- KU GAMES:

@Zabudda that’s always the downside for Kansas people step up just to beat us. Always some guy that hasn’t hit crap all drains multiple 3s and what not.

Davis averaged 11 ppg on the season and was their best 3 point shooter. This wasn't a complete surprise or totally random like some past performances.

@Zabudda said in NCAA NON- KU GAMES:

Devo Davis scored about 25 pts in the second half against KU and three total against UCON. Shrug.

He can thank the ankle of Dejuan Harris for his second half output.

That was close to going in!

This is the game of the tournament so far!!! Strawther!!

OMG UCLA!

UCLA is really missing Jaylen Clark and Adem Bona this half.

Drew Timme is trying to upstage Nowell's performance tonight. 36 and 15 and has half of Gonzaga's points tonight.

@wissox said in NCAA NON- KU GAMES:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Did you hear the announcer kiss Dukes behind talking about Tennessee defeating Dukes awesome defense?

Didn't get to watch anything tonight until now as I'm laying in bed.

UCLA cannot buy a basket this half.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in NCAA NON- KU GAMES:

Tennessee sucks.

They lost their PG at the end of the regular season. Honestly surprised they even beat Duke in the second round.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in KU Ladies tourney time:

Still playing at home?

Tonight was in AFH. The quarterfinal game is TBD. KU will play the winner of Arkansas/Texas Tech who play tomorrow night in Lubbock.

KU beat Nebraska by 9 tonight to move to the WNIT quarterfinals.

@drgnslayr said in Alpha Kevin, 2023-2024:

@Texas-Hawk-10

Aimaq was out for 80% of the season with injuries and the other 20% can hardly be judged in a completely failed TT season.

He's 6'11", 245 lbs... not even in the same conversation with 6'6" Adams.

This conversation is ridiculous.

The games he played can absolutely be judged because they were against B12 competition and that's what he would do next year amd he wasn't significantly better than KJ. I also don't give a shit about his size because he didn't do much with it. How does a guy with his size playing basically 30 minutes per game only get 3 blocks in his 11 games? He has size, that's great, but he's not athletic enough to be the rim protector Self prefers. The options already on KU's roster are superior to Aimaq.

I also don't understand why you'd want to get rid of Udeh or Zuby for a 1 year rental. They were freshmen last year and played like freshmen. Self also doesn't give a shit about how much his back ups 5's foul. Mitch Lightfoot averaged 7.2 fouls per 40 minutes last season. The job of a back up 5 under Self isn't to play foul free defense, it's to be aggressive and give the starter a breather. Doke averaged almost 9 fouls per 40 minutes his freshman season and was down to 3.5 his senior year.
Tarik Black averaged over 8 fouls per 40 minutes when he came off the bench in his year here and significantly cut down on his fouls when he had to start. That's something that comes with experience and roles in the system. Udeh's foul rate will significantly go down once he becomes a starter, until then it's not a huge issue because it's not an expectation.

@drgnslayr said in Alpha Kevin, 2023-2024:

@Texas-Hawk-10

I 1000% disagree.

We are the only upper-tier school in D1 with a 6'6" center. It had to work in a jam, but now we have time to fix it.

Actually... you forgot we have Zach, too.

The chances of us landing another defensive monster like Kevin is zero.

Our best shot at a decent year is to snag a legit 5. Zuby or Ernest, one, should head for the portal.

My only "unless" is if we see major development out of one of those bigs between now and November and I just don't see it happening in a few months.

There aren't many options at the 5, but I would at least consider the guy from TT. At least he has years experience in the low post and can score back to the basket.

No one loves KJ more than me... but realistically, we've been murdered at the 5 all year. He averaged only 4.3 rpg and had zero interior defensive presence.

At 6'6"... might as well call him a guard. We played most of the year with 5 guards on the floor.

If we go without Kevin and have KJ in the post this year we will get completely murdered!

Clemence isn't staying, that's a matter of time. Nobody has been on KJ's case about rebounding more than me and you know that. Udeh and Zuby will be fine on defense with experience under their belts this year. The light was already coming on for Udeh at the end of the season at both ends.

Aimaq also isn't a significant upgrade over Adams. He was pretty overwhelmed by moving up to B12 competition and his defensive rating last season in limited action was very similar to KJ's. The only defensive category he was noticeably better than KJ was rebounding, everything else was either pretty equal or favored KJ.

I think you need to accept that KJ, Udeh, and Zuby will be options at the 5 next season.

@drgnslayr said in Alpha Kevin, 2023-2024:

Here is what I posted last year after our championship... I can still stand by this, and do. Especially pushing Kevin.

!Screenshot 2023-03-22 at 1.37.53 PM.jpg ↗

As I said all this year... our offense feasted off of our defense. When we ran slow half-court offense we weren't great. What made us great was a faster offense fueled off our defense.

I pray to God we don't make the mistake we can just load up on offensive players and expect a good season. We will 100% fail. Again.... mark my words for next season and lets all go back and read this again.

KJ deserves a ton of credit. But he's at the bottom of Big 12 defensive 5s. Not his fault! Our biggest defensive Achilles heel all year was low post scoring and scoring off the drive or pull-up in the low paint. Our second issue was rebounding. KJ isn't a rebounder.

We will be a ton better next year if we solidify the 5. Period.

I know we all want to see KJ on the floor. If we had a legit 5 Self would still find a way to use KJ. He's been carving out space for himself on the floor.

Self isn't adding anybody at the 5 spot. Two of the issues you mentioned weren't KJ specific issues. Best case would be for KJ to develop into a 30% or better outside shooter so he could be moved to the 4 spot and Udeh or Zuby can take over the 5. As far as actual roster personnel changes, the 5 spot is the one position Self isn't looking at because he already has 3 of them.

The issue isn't Udeh or Zuby though, the issue is KJ can't play the 4 in Self's 4 out system because he can't shoot 3's. He also can't play the 4 in Self's two big offense because he again can't make 3's and Self's high-low always had a big man capable of making 3's which is why his high-low was so effective. Unless KJ develops new skills, he's locked in as a 5 because that's the only place he can play extended minutes.