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Another casualty to the portal. No use anymore getting attached to kids

@BeddieKU23 Yup.

Can’t say I saw this coming. Jalen Wilson might be the last legacy player we see at KU.

@Eric-san If I may be so bold - the portal SH*T needs to be stopped. Put an end to it.

This sucks….6-11 could go up and get it. Was perfect guy to change how we play defensively when Hunter needed a breather

I hate this crap. And if Hunter goes down with an injury at some point we're basically screwed. We've become Kentucky with a bunch of unknowns/sort of knowns.

@Eric-san said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Can’t say I saw this coming. Jalen Wilson might be the last legacy player we see at KU.

Juan will be the last..

Im assuming we will hear Zuby is coming back. :crossed_fingers_medium_skin_tone:

@wissox said in Bye Bye Ernest:

I hate this crap. And if Hunter goes down with an injury at some point we're basically screwed. We've become Kentucky with a bunch of unknowns/sort of knowns.

agree. World we livin in now. Most of P5 going through the same. I definitely feel as though this year has broken something that will never return.

Even crazier is there was a good deal of optimism Udeh was returning as of last night and now he's gone.

@approxinfinity said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Im assuming we will hear Zuby is coming back. :crossed_fingers_medium_skin_tone:

I don't think so, rumor is Zuby/Udeh were told they would be playing behind KJ.

Quit selling t-shirts, who wants to buy a one yr guy shirt?

@Crimsonorblue22

I believe I've bought all the merch I'll be buying for the forseeable future with this. I got Och/Dave/CB and then Juan, Wilson & KJ. I'm done.

@nuleafjhawk said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@Eric-san If I may be so bold - the portal SH*T needs to be stopped. Put an end to it.

ya this is getting pretty sad - -BS - -just stop recruiting High School players

@BeddieKU23 If that’s true it answers all the lineup
Questions we’ve had. KJ won’t start at the 4 and was going to backup Hunter.

Juan

Morris - Elmarko

Timberlake - Adam’s

Mgbako - Adam’s

Hunter - KJ

@kuballin10 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

This sucks….6-11 could go up and get it. Was perfect guy to change how we play defensively when Hunter needed a breather

I don't like it - - I don't like this s - - - one bit

(https://247sports.com/player/juslin-bodo-46134585/) ↗

Go get juslin bodo bill, gotta replace that size

@jayballer67 I don't disagree

@wissox said in Bye Bye Ernest:

I hate this crap. And if Hunter goes down with an injury at some point we're basically screwed. We've become Kentucky with a bunch of unknowns/sort of knowns.

ya we are left with Hunter - -no depth at the 5 now - -and yet I don't blame Udeh or Zuby a bit

@jayballer67 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@wissox said in Bye Bye Ernest:

I hate this crap. And if Hunter goes down with an injury at some point we're basically screwed. We've become Kentucky with a bunch of unknowns/sort of knowns.

ya we are left with Hunter - -no depth at the 5 now - -and yet I don't blame Udeh or Zuby a bit

We have 6'6 KJ still.

@BeddieKU23 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@wissox said in Bye Bye Ernest:

I hate this crap. And if Hunter goes down with an injury at some point we're basically screwed. We've become Kentucky with a bunch of unknowns/sort of knowns.

agree. World we livin in now. Most of P5 going through the same. I definitely feel as though this year has broken something that will never return.

it's a sad day at the phog

@jayballer67 trying to have our cake and eat it to.

Hunter > udeh & zuby

Kids want to play now can’t blame them

Bill wants best players now can’t blame him

We want to build the best team every year and a mcd’s guy isn’t sold on playing 10 minutes a game his sophomore year i get it.

If Bill said you are third behind Hunter and KJ for minutes I get why guys are transferring

@BeddieKU23 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@jayballer67 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@wissox said in Bye Bye Ernest:

I hate this crap. And if Hunter goes down with an injury at some point we're basically screwed. We've become Kentucky with a bunch of unknowns/sort of knowns.

ya we are left with Hunter - -no depth at the 5 now - -and yet I don't blame Udeh or Zuby a bit

We have 6'6 KJ still.

and remember one of the reasons we got our ass beat on the boards so bad - KJ good player but doesn't board/ and or can't. He gives all he is got but to undersized at the 5

Grant Nelson come on down

@FarmerJayhawk said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Grant Nelson come on down

I’d lose my mind lol!

Juan - Morris - Mgbako/Timberlake - Nelson - Hunter

Haha not sure that’s fair

@kuballin10 we’re going to shoot our shot, no doubt about it.

@kuballin10 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@jayballer67 trying to have our cake and eat it to.

Hunter > udeh & zuby

Kids want to play now can’t blame them

Bill wants best players now can’t blame him

We want to build the best team every year and a mcd’s guy isn’t sold on playing 10 minutes a game his sophomore year i get it.

If Bill said you are third behind Hunter and KJ for minutes I get why guys are transferring

just comes a time when as a staff you have to say enough. - We got Hunter and yes even hopefully Mgbako but dam like you said I don't blame Udeh & Zuby -- whateve happened to development of players- -just down the crapper. I think having to give some 2nd thought to what the portal is doing to College Basketball. - no loyalty-- let's just ban screw recruitemneet of High School players.

That was one of the big thigs I liked about Bill his developing of players but this is BS

@kuballin10 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Juan - Morris - Mgbako/Timberlake - Nelson - Hunter

Haha not sure that’s fair

Don't count your eggs just yet on Mgbako - from what I'm hearing today

@jayballer67 nah we’re as solid as can be

@FarmerJayhawk said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@jayballer67 nah we’re as solid as can be

Hope your right big guy - - I trust you, i dunno just kind of frustrated about things. - Ya guess for sure it's all came down to win , win , win. Although w have won , won , won , previously with the way Bill Recruited looks like he just has said - -screw that - -I Can see Hunter the most but I think we were good with Hunter and others should of called it a day. - Went with our remaining players we would be good

So now we have THREE open Scholis right ? - - Dam Kyle should of stayed

@Eric-san said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Can’t say I saw this coming. Jalen Wilson might be the last legacy player we see at KU.

Dejuan and KJ

Biggest mistake of his life IMO, if him and Zuby go some place where they can play right away it won’t be power 5. They have probably played their last NCAA tournament game if they ain’t willing to go to a program and develop.

It will be interesting to see how much playing time Ernest & Zuby get at new schools. If they sit for a year, what’s the point? If not, good for them.

Also, hopefully the new schools actually pay their NIL money. Lots of rumors about non-payment of NIL.

I wonder if either would stay if HD only had 1 year of eligibility.

With the roster composition we had, KJ made too much sense at the 4 due toba lack of Natura 3/4's on the roster. KJ at the 4 also would've allowed Self to bring back elements of the hi-low because KJ and Hunter would have been a great combo for it. We also know Self isn't opposed to playing KJ at the 4 as there were times last year KJ and Udeh were on the floor together.

@jayballer67 Development of players isn’t down the crapper. It’s players wanting to play now.

Guarantee Bill wanted Udeh here and there is NO Chance he was pushed out.

Udeh wants to go somewhere and play now rather than develop here.

I get it and honestly nothing replaces in game reps/development

@kjayhawks said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Biggest mistake of his life IMO, if him and Zuby go some place where they can play right away it won’t be power 5. They have probably played their last NCAA tournament game if they ain’t willing to go to a program and develop.

Zuby's list of schools he's visiting starting today is Villanova, St. John's, TCU and San Diego St. He'll be a major program in a system that plays to his strengths as all have defensive minded coaches and the one school on that list that's a mid-major is coming off a Final Four appearance. All 4 of those schools are places he will either start or be the first big off the bench and be a significant contributor.

@Texas-Hawk-10 They played together minimally.

Reading the boards it seems that Bill wants shooters around Juan and Hunter. That isn’t kj.

KJ will be the backup 5 and change of pace guy.

Well hopefully we can find another quality big looking for a spot now , getting late in the game

@jayballer67 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Well hopefully we can find another quality big looking for a spot now , getting late in the game

Well there are two pretty goods one out there who'd be perfect... Udeh and Zuby. Seriously, who would be better than either of those guys?

Seeing the same thing I have been thinking now and saying. Read from other people I am just really thinking/ how this whole thing plays out in the future. Others also saying and I just have a feeling this might have some effect in the future-- future recruits how is this going to effect Bills future recruitment with HS players. - I truly feel this just MIGHT come back and bit him right square in the ass.

These guys gonna have a whole different look/approach about how they feel about Coach- -well actually might be the parents looking at Coach differently , recruit my kid and talk about how they are gonna be a fixture in the program and then not even get the chance to prove that they are that fixture - - being recruited over - not a good look. - you can snicker, laugh deny whatever but it could happen- it could VREY EASILY happen. - like another here said no need to try and get to know players anymore cause they are not going to be here long enough.

I can rmembe a time not that long ago when fans were hollering at higher ranked kids - saying they don't stay long enough to care about - how the players weren't even un packing their suit cases , how it was hard to connect with them and how the kid couldn't be invested in the program when they one and done - - - -WELL hard for a player to connect when they are here for a year- -a kid you know that would be a three - -four yr guy that develops - example Doke - -McCormack - -Och how they progressed got bette through the years - -I just think could have some implicatins on down the line

@DanR said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@jayballer67 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Well hopefully we can find another quality big looking for a spot now , getting late in the game

Well there are two pretty goods one out there who'd be perfect... Udeh and Zuby. Seriously, who would be better than either of those guys?

exactly right would love either-- unfortunate for us - -Doke has no more time lol - -Zuby sure not coming back & I don't blame him..
OH i got it I go the perfect back up 5-- shoot why didn't I think of it sooner.- -Surely there is a way we could get ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO somehow from MITCH LIGHTFOOT - -ya that's it lol - -Coach get on the Phone see if MITCh wants to play years 7 & 8 lol

If the roster turns over again next year, really what's the point of college sports? I just don't care about these transfer guys. They barely seem like Jayhawks. No tradition or lineage.

Yuck - bad news. Is there a chance this was just a hedge in case that last spot was going to get filled by another big? Wasn't time running out to get your name into the portal? Zuby specifically said he wouldn't rule out returning to KU. Udeh was the perfect fit, would have gotten plenty of minutes for a typical sophmore big at KU and could develop under a HOF coach, Elite program, be the likely favorite for a championship, collect a premium NIL compared to most places, etc. I'm very surprised by this one.

@FarmerJayhawk I know I could look it up but who is Grant Nelson? Is he a candidate to come?

So many excellent points made by many on here. How many times have we wished a player had developed into what we originally pegged their potential to be, but failed to live up to. Getting so hyped and caring so much about the eventually busts they become. Instead coach can go get the players he knows have developed those aspects of their game with big time college playing experience. Nothing like Kentucky bringing in overhyped freshmen with no college experience or college developed bodies and stamina. The plus I see is Kansas won't have down years anymore. No more wondering and waiting for a window to have a great team. Each coming year will be National Champions or bust. How painful has it been going into a year knowing the team has a glaring weakness that inevitably will result in an early tourney ouster.

A 'down year' for Kansas is what, a 4 seed? lol We sure are spoiled.

So now it's time to say it's a dam good thing we get to play games this summer. a time so ALL these ne guys get a chance to meet their new team mates, and try to get some kind of chemistry going, you can have all the talent in the world but if players not bonded or have a feel for his team mate then what good does it do to have all that talent - When will e gon play I know summer but what is it like Jike August or around there ?

@madmax said in Bye Bye Ernest:

The plus I see is Kansas won't have down years anymore. No more wondering and waiting for a window to have a great team. Each coming year will be National Champions or bust. How painful has it been going into a year knowing the team has a glaring weakness that inevitably will result in an early tourney ouster.

What proof do we have that Coach Self can navigate this many new guys? The key to his success has always been guys who have been in his system a few years. Self is EXTREMELY difficult to deal with for first year guys. Look how many freshman can't deal with him. Look how Remi had issues for a lot of his one year. It's always worked because it was a weeding out process that led to every year having a mentally strong team filled with guys who withstood it all.

People are looking at all the incoming guys and assuming they will all be great. Self's history proves that about 75% of newcomers will either struggle with his demands and/or won't earn his trust enough to garner playing time. On top of that we now have only TWO guys left to help the new guys navigate it.

Of course it's possible Self truly has softened. I just don't believe it.

Oh man. Sad to hear this in so many ways.

Both seemed to be in berserker mode on the court, but I thought both Zuby and Ernest had great potential. How often are bigs amazing in their first year?

This new portal / NIL world is difficult for us consumers to adjust to. Is it sustainable year after year?

I can’t blame Self for wanting to rework the roster. It wasn’t ideal last season, but I was at least pleased with the long term bigs we had, or thought we had.

@BeddieKU23 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Another casualty to the portal. No use anymore getting attached to kids

OUCH. Oh well, I wish him well at his future location.

I get it. I don't like it, but I get it.

He's going to tear it up somewhere. Hopefully not against us.

Also, the general consensus is that this hurts us down the road. Which is true, but.....

This also hurts us immediately.

The scout team takes a huge hit. This is a big experiment because it's hard to quantify the value of the scout team. However, history suggests that the best Bill Self teams consistently have had outstanding scout teams. For this team to do great things, they will not have that benefit.

Without some of the guys who transfered, our scout team is not going to be able to push the starters in the same way. Ernest and Zuby had skill and size that would test Hunter and would resemble the kind of competition he would likely face.

I don't know if this is a great analogy, but it seems like it would be like getting a great car and a great driver at the expense of experienced crew members.. And generally when you compete at the highest level, the winning difference is not just about the driver and the car. (I don't know much about racing so, maybe this is a terrible comparison.. but hopefully it gets the point across that the guys that don't get the limelight also contribute significantly.)

@BigBad great points, not saying you're wrong. It might take another couple years for someone like Udeh to develope the skills Hunter already has and has proven to be able to demonstrate against P5 "Big 10" competition. He is going to make the game so much easier for everyone on the court around him. 40% from 3 threat that can back his man down from the high post, and vision to find the open shooter/cutter. Someone like Timberlake 40%+ proven sharp shooter who doesn't wilt or shy away from taking the big shots. Morris is probably the most explosive athletic guard Self has had including Dotson in years, with plenty of Big-12 experience. Probably would have averaged impressive #'s has he not been stuck behind all those returning stars on the perimeter for Texas. Guarding KU is going to be a match-up nightmare for opposing teams. Can't say that about last year's team or even the NC team.

@BigBad said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@madmax said in Bye Bye Ernest:

The plus I see is Kansas won't have down years anymore. No more wondering and waiting for a window to have a great team. Each coming year will be National Champions or bust. How painful has it been going into a year knowing the team has a glaring weakness that inevitably will result in an early tourney ouster.

What proof do we have that Coach Self can navigate this many new guys? The key to his success has always been guys who have been in his system a few years. Self is EXTREMELY difficult to deal with for first year guys. Look how many freshman can't deal with him. Look how Remi had issues for a lot of his one year. It's always worked because it was a weeding out process that led to every year having a mentally strong team filled with guys who withstood it all.

People are looking at all the incoming guys and assuming they will all be great. Self's history proves that about 75% of newcomers will either struggle with his demands and/or won't earn his trust enough to garner playing time. On top of that we now have only TWO guys left to help the new guys navigate it.

Of course it's possible Self truly has softened. I just don't believe it.

So, explain McCullar to me.

@Jethro Did you not see the 75% number I listed?

@BigBad

Can't like your post enough.

This is truly unchartered territory in Self's career here

@BigBad He blows a hole in your narrative, even considering your 75% number you pulled out of thin air. I would say Remy blows your theory out of the water, too. If there was ever an example of a player integrating into our system, it would be Remy. Not only was he the star of our team throughout the NCAA tournament, his block of Love's drive to the basket was one of the key moments that allowed us to win a national championship. To go from playing absolutely no defense, not learning any of our plays to becoming a star in the NCAA tournament was an incredible job by our coaching staff integrating Remy into our system.

@jayballer67 I totally agree that this could bite KU in the ass in the future. Hopefully not, but I will not be surprised. Recruiting over what you already have and not allowing growing pains with the younger bigs or any player for that matter will bring hesitation to any HS recruit and his family. The IARP and now this could hurt recruiting for years to come unless the player is more interested about money than playing basketball. And unless there is a clause within the NIL that states that maximum payment is based upon effort/performance, then there is no guarantee that the players will perform to their potential.
Obviously, I don’t know much about how NIL works, so if I am wrong about that, then let me know.

@Jethro You want a whole team of guys like Remy? I'm glad he stepped up in March, but it did take the entire season for him to buy in. Guys like Mitch, Dave, Och, Braun and Harris were the real Jayhawks on that team.

@Jethro

So its a theory that Self is hard on new guys? It's a theory that most first year guys struggle under him? Again most gloss over some of this because there is always a vet who steps in and fills the void. This year there won't be any of those so it's going to be REALLY interesting.

@DanR we will never have those guys anymore. Those are the guys I love to watch, guys that love KU, like Dtae, Frank, so many more of our 3 and 4 yr guys. Play for the name on the front.

So - who pays for all the gallivanting? When a player jumps to a different school (or 4 or 5 of them), who's picking up the tab? The player and his family? The school that they transfer to? The taxpayers of that state? The more I think about this, the pisseder off I get.

@patoh3 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@jayballer67 I totally agree that this could bite KU in the ass in the future. Hopefully not, but I will not be surprised. Recruiting over what you already have and not allowing growing pains with the younger bigs or any player for that matter will bring hesitation to any HS recruit and his family. The IARP and now this could hurt recruiting for years to come unless the player is more interested about money than playing basketball. And unless there is a clause within the NIL that states that maximum payment is based upon effort/performance, then there is no guarantee that the players will perform to their potential.
Obviously, I don’t know much about how NIL works, so if I am wrong about that, then let me know.

The NIl is turning College sports into a big free Agency. - Hunter stated in an article that NIL was an increase in his pay---- over Michigan, saying that there was nobody in the room would not take a 10,000 dollar increase. - It's all about the biggest bidder. you can say what you want but bottom line is now - - It's not about a School , it's not about a Coach - -it's all about the money.
I saw a post sometime back about how now all College players is just farm system , kids getting money off the NIL & it's only going to continue to get worse - -Amateur as we knew it will no longer exists, the fun is being taken out of the game , the days of kids playing ball for the love of the game-- -is gone. It's for sure more of a business now then in the pat.

Sure the ultimate goal for the kids is to make the NBA , but before there was no one an dones, fans could connect with the players gt to know the kids - -today not so much, it's making it harder to pull for the sport -everything has to be about Money , Money , Money

Imagine there is great value in those all-american level college players that are not NBA prospects might be the most sought after guys. You can get multiple years on elite level players.

So - Udeh’s decision to leave right before the deadline ….is it because we’re getting Mgbako on Friday?

@nuleafjhawk oh man then don't ask about football recruiting where we have 100+ total official and unofficial visitors and their families many weekends

@nuleafjhawk said in Bye Bye Ernest:

The more I think about this, the pisseder off I get.

I have a hard time getting as upset about all this as you are, but I still nominate this sentence for PHOF!

@wissox yeah, he's a big man transfer from North Dakota State. In the draft now, but if he pulls out KU will be a player. 6'11 235, has a lot of skill. Was their leading scorer, rebounder, shot blocker, and assist man last year. Profiles as a 4 or 5

@jayballer67 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@patoh3 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@jayballer67 I totally agree that this could bite KU in the ass in the future. Hopefully not, but I will not be surprised. Recruiting over what you already have and not allowing growing pains with the younger bigs or any player for that matter will bring hesitation to any HS recruit and his family. The IARP and now this could hurt recruiting for years to come unless the player is more interested about money than playing basketball. And unless there is a clause within the NIL that states that maximum payment is based upon effort/performance, then there is no guarantee that the players will perform to their potential.
Obviously, I don’t know much about how NIL works, so if I am wrong about that, then let me know.

The NIl is turning College sports into a big free Agency. - Hunter stated in an article that NIL was an increase in his pay---- over Michigan, saying that there was nobody in the room would not take a 10,000 dollar increase. - It's all about the biggest bidder. you can say what you want but bottom line is now - - It's not about a School , it's not about a Coach - -it's all about the money.
I saw a post sometime back about how now all College players is just farm system , kids getting money off the NIL & it's only going to continue to get worse - -Amateur as we knew it will no longer exists, the fun is being taken out of the game , the days of kids playing ball for the love of the game-- -is gone. It's for sure more of a business now then in the pat.

Sure the ultimate goal for the kids is to make the NBA , but before there was no one an dones, fans could connect with the players gt to know the kids - -today not so much, it's making it harder to pull for the sport -everything has to be about Money , Money , Money

At the same time, fans demand more amenities, better tv production, the best coaches. All that takes more revenue. Stands to reason that getting the best players (which has NEVER been free) was next.

Hard to be that upset about it when coaches bolt for the next big thing in the middle of the night and leave their players behind. If loyalty was a big thing, many folks would've quit following the sport years ago.

Lets see how this feels for a year and if it sucks, lets find a constructive way to complain. I just dont see it being unsuccessful. I can see it being less interesting. Want kids I care about. Some of these freshmen better be cool and stick around.

I’m all for a NIL salary cap. Even though it’s not really in the best interest of Kansas basketball in particular.

On the flipside is it so bad to root for people and less exclusively for places? Next year we might have to register globalbuckets.com and migrate the board

@approxinfinity that's today's NBA!

The good news here is it likely means Hunter's plan is to stay for two years. It sucks less when you think of it as trading 3 years of Udeh for 2 of Hunter.

@mayjay I want to be more mellow, but I'm going the opposite direction the older I get. Or maybe I just don't care what people think anymore. Lol

@BeddieKU23 I guess I didn’t see the announcement that Udeh was leaving??! Or is this just speculation??

@coolfool13 Our town criers just told us but didn't put any links here. Try googling "udeh" and you'll find it right away.

@dylans said in Bye Bye Ernest:

I’m all for a NIL salary cap. Even though it’s not really in the best interest of Kansas basketball in particular.

I'm with you, I think something has to be done. I'm all for the guys making money while they are here, have income, but they better get a grip on this before it's over the top- -these guy gets a full ride while they are on Schoi so that in it'self should eliminate a portion of their cost - they should have plenty of money otherwise - -if that don't do something it's gonna just blow up

Ok, what would stop Ernest from coming back in a year? Let's don't throw Momma from the train just yet.

We act like a lot of these athletes couldn't get an academic scholarship if sports wasn't in the picture. College athletics is a full time job on top of the academics, and everyone is making piles of cash off them. Most never make NBA/NFL level pro, and they risk getting injured and never making it to the pros while making money for these colleges due to rules unjustly prohibiting them from going straight to the pros. If an athlete gets deceived into committing to a school that never intended on playing them to the level they were pitched and recruited, then they should be allowed to move on the greener pastures.

Shit

Saw this on Twitter:

Here’s my prediction for how next season will go for KU.

-Early struggles due to entire team of newcomers adjusting to Self.

-Fans will meltdown - blame the transfer portal.

-Hawks will get hot in Feb.

-Win Big 12

-Head into March as the favorites to win it all

Book it

@FarmerJayhawk but we weren't that team. We have a coach that developed those hidden gems/gyms! Frank, dtae-future mayor of Lawrence, young Och who stayed and also local CB. that led to a DaJuan Harris signed at a D-2 school. Then there's the most cussed D-Mac and prison Mitch, we needed him too. Even the crowd loves Chris Teahan! I wanted to see Udeh develop, I wanted to see more dancing on the sidelines and in the ncaa big dance.

@Texas-Hawk-10 we’ll just see what happens but he ain’t starting on good team.

@Crimsonorblue22 our last title team had 8 new players. Even guys we love like Withey and Newman were transfers. One of the constants of the Self era has been roster turnover. There will be more guys that stick around and develop. The portal stuff will slow down once the Covid seniors all exhaust eligibility. I’m all for letting players have the same ability to pursue opportunities as coaches.

Keeping track of our rejects:

• Pettiford- East Carolina
• Cam- Boise State
• Zach- UC Santa Barbara
• Rice- NC State
• Zuby- visiting Nova, St. Johns, TCU, SDSU
• Cuffe- ?
• Joe Yesefu- ?
• Udeh- ?

@DanR Yesufu committed to Wazzu

I hope Zuby ends up at TCU and Udeh at Baylor

@FarmerJayhawk I don’t think you get me

@DanR me too. Would love to keep them in conference. I think you’ve made me realize that even with Bryce Thompson, to whom I didnt feel very attached, I still enjoyed him being in conference to be able to see him grow.

@Jethro you forgot one. Lose in the second round to a nobody.

found this kind of interesting , was doing my searchs of other boards and came across this. Not sure if the staff has said anything but their fans sure showing interest talking about Ernest- - -And that is DUKE. , they all seem to like rest, was talking about his rim protection how he had 4 blocks against them in 13 minutes- I guess Mitchell and other players have already hollered at him. Like I said I don't know if Schyer has contacted or thinking about it or not. - -That would be really good for Ernest

@jayballer67 hate to lose Udeh but even worse to Duke! 🤮

@jayballer67 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

found this kind of interesting , was doing my searchs of other boards and came across this. Not sure if the staff has said anything but their fans sure showing interest talking about Ernest- - -And that is DUKE. , they all seem to like rest, was talking about his rim protection how he had 4 blocks against them in 13 minutes- I guess Mitchell and other players have already hollered at him. Like I said I don't know if Schyer has contacted or thinking about it or not. - -That would be really good for Ernest

They've been looking for a shot blocking 5 to put next to filipowski

Trade for Mackenzie

I think he lands at TN or UCLA.

@rcjhdraft said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@jayballer67 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

found this kind of interesting , was doing my searchs of other boards and came across this. Not sure if the staff has said anything but their fans sure showing interest talking about Ernest- - -And that is DUKE. , they all seem to like rest, was talking about his rim protection how he had 4 blocks against them in 13 minutes- I guess Mitchell and other players have already hollered at him. Like I said I don't know if Schyer has contacted or thinking about it or not. - -That would be really good for Ernest

They've been looking for a shot blocking 5 to put next to filipowski

Well we shall see if they contact. - I would be doing back flips for him, if he was a land at a place like that -he deserves that great kid

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@jayballer67 hate to lose Udeh but even worse to Duke! 🤮

I just want to see him land at a place where he can play , the higher the status of the school the better. Doesn't matter to me , I'm even happier that he is not in conference, he come back play against us and play out his mind

@dylans said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Trade for Mackenzie

That crossed my mind too

@madmax said in Bye Bye Ernest:

We act like a lot of these athletes couldn't get an academic scholarship if sports wasn't in the picture.

I'd be willing to bet 90% of D1 basketball players couldnt.

Very interesting, the concept of a trade now that there is no sit out year

@BigBad I’ll take that bet. Walk ons plus Ivy’s and there you have it

So Duke didn't lose any players to the Portal. Hmm. We might have a nice way to test this strategy of dumping your entire roster.

@FarmerJayhawk Count me in on that bet. What a poor assumption about basketball athletes. Plus most states offer half/partial scholarships if you have 3.0 or above. To assume 90% can't average B's is ludicrous. My high school and college team only had one player under 3.0. Neither was in the nicest part of town if you know what I mean.

When he steps foot off campus, I don't care what happens to him in the realm of basketball. I don't wish him any harm, but I don't particularly care if he excels at another school either. He doesn't care about KU, KU (meaning me) doesn't care about him. It's nothing personal - just a "business" decision.

@nuleafjhawk is this like an object permanence disorder, or…?

;)

@nuleafjhawk I guarantee you he cares more about KU than Hunter does. He was set aside for the new, shiner more experienced model, maybe for 2 yrs. Develop as a practice player.

Guess Mgbako is fine being a loosier.

@Eric-san
Wow! Didn’t expect that…

Just lol.

Twitter surprised at the decision to go to Indiana.

@approxinfinity I just don't see the point of worshiping someone who briefly wears a Kansas uniform. When they bail through the portal or jump to the NBA after one season it's like the Gotye song - Somebody That I Used To Know.

@nuleafjhawk I don't think we should worship anyone, especially young men going to college to try to prepare for a career.

We should give them our support.

But I'll stop preaching.

Marked safe from a former Duke commit. It's a blessing in disguise

@BeddieKU23 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Marked safe from a former Duke commit. It's a blessing in disguise

Lotta people were lied to, goat rodeo.

@BShark said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@BeddieKU23 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Marked safe from a former Duke commit. It's a blessing in disguise

Lotta people were lied to, goat rodeo.

My stance from the beginning is I didn't want him so it's fitting.

This new recruiting world is unsustainable

Ehh one year rental. Next

@BeddieKU23 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

This new recruiting world is unsustainable

Seems perfectly sustainable to me. All the schools have access to hundreds more players than they realistically could have gotten in contact with under the prior system. But the schools like ours who used to keep talent on the second string who could start elsewhere will have to adjust their expectations. There will still be thousands of kids leaving college every year, and thousands entering.

I think it might well expose which coaches can develop medium players and can be flexible enough to adapt their systems to their players.

@dylans said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Ehh one year rental. Next

They all are

@approxinfinity just bantering with you brother - why should we give them our support? Joe Blow, a former KU standout, an up an coming star, transfers to Mizzou. Are we now proud Tiger backers?

When Tyreek Hill "transferred" to Miami, did we all become Dolphin fans? No. We were almost universally "screw you Tyreek".

How is it different now? Because they don't get paid? Whoops. They do.

I'll be the bad guy. I don't give a hoot about people that leave KU.

@nuleafjhawk bantering is what we do!

Tyreek Hill did bad stuff before departing.
Chiefs didnt want him there.

Udeh left because Bill recruited over him after a promising freshman season. Good kid.

Its different.

And if Udeh went to Mizzou I’d get on the “Ernest is dead to me” boat with you, but he wont, because Mizzou sucks and Ernest does not.

@approxinfinity "dead to me" isn't really the terminology I would use, I would just say ignore or not care. But I see your point. So, please, anyone who sees this - I have no ill will towards anyone who leaves KU, I'm just no longer interested.

I’m going to be honest. I’m a fan of KU not the individual players. Over time I become fans of the players and will follow their pro careers, but it’s only because of their time at KU. Kids who leave for another school no longer have any appeal, but the ones who stick it out I return the loyalty.

@dylans So Joel Embiid has no interest for you?

@dylans Dammit. That's what I've been trying to say. Except I don't watch pro ball.

@mayjay No, I don’t think Joel knows who I am.

-what does Embiid have to do with transfers?!? Bill pushed him out the door. Embiid cried about leaving KU for the NBA. What a weird rebuttal. His NBA rookie card has Kansas info on the back. It’s not a JR Giddens thing. I don’t follow Giddens.

As an aside I haven’t watched an NBA game since the bubble tournament and only watched then due to a lack of options.

Duke had no one enter the portal. I don't know the answer to the question, but someone here might. Why? And why a bunch for us?

The guys I don't understand leaving are the guys like Udeh, and Zuby who played regularly as freshmen and had a bright future here.

Although I don't like to admit it in a case like this I think @mayjay is right. The coaches who adjust and focus on the system guys are the ones who will be the next batch of successful coaches. Something tells me Bill Self is one of those guys.

@wissox KU was always going to lose one of Zuby and Udeh at some point because they played the same position and were the same class. Losing both in the same year sucks, but nobody should be surprised that one of them was eventually going to leave because top 50 recruits don't go to a school with the intention of being a career back up.

@wissox said in Bye Bye Ernest:

The guys I don’t understand leaving are the guys like Udeh, and Zuby who played regularly as freshmen and had a bright future here.

But they no doubt want to play pro somewhere. Coming off the bench a second year would limit their chances pretty severely. I don't like them being gone, but they are preparing for a career and their developmental years would be half or 3/4 gone before they ever start if they stayed at KU while HD is here.

Just saw Udeh is visiting Duke and K state. Ouch.

@benshawks08 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Just saw Udeh is visiting Duke and K state. Ouch.

If he goes to Duke, someone will have to make it make sense for me. Ryan Young, Filipowski and TJ Power will be eating a ton of minutes at the 4/5. I don't see how he gets much more PT there than here. But w/e.

The KSU one would sting. Watching him play for them for the next 3 years would absolutely suck.

I'm pretty bummed to see him go, but I was hoping somewhere we wouldn't have to watch lol.

@benshawks08 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Just saw Udeh is visiting Duke and K state. Ouch.

Wouldn't that just be the perfect outcome - - K/State bit us right square in the ass

This is a MASSIVE low point for me with this transfer/NIL stuff. If it is like this yearly I'm going to have a real hard time watching this.

Maybe we can hold out hope that this is a ploy to get his own NIL upped at Kansas? Is that a possibility? I know I'm reaching here. I totally agree with @Kcmatt7 that if Duke is on the table, why not stay here?

@benshawks08 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Just saw Udeh is visiting Duke and K state. Ouch.

TCU is also on his list to visit.

Is putting your name in the portal now like putting your name in the draft pool? Just dip your toe in to see what feedback you get? I don’t think I’d want a player that entered the portal back unless conversations had led him to that point and conditions changed. (Zuby).

@dylans I think you have to treat it that way if you're trying to fill out the best roster. But typically I assume putting your name in the portal means you're likely gone.

Duke lock

@BShark said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Duke lock

Unfortunate but it's a no brainer decision for him since they can provide a starting role

I think I’m going to be sick.

@BShark said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Duke lock

Sickening tbh.

I'm really not crazy high on our starting lineup at the moment either. Even with Nelson, it is a bit concerning. The saving grace was that we would have a ton of depth. But with Udeh and Zuby out we have absolutely questionable/non-existent depth at the 3,4 and 5 spots. And with the portal closed targets are limited. If we end up with Parker Freaking Braun as backup Center I won't even know what to think.

@Kcmatt7 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@BShark said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Duke lock

Sickening tbh.

I'm really not crazy high on our starting lineup at the moment either. Even with Nelson, it is a bit concerning. The saving grace was that we would have a ton of depth. But with Udeh and Zuby out we have absolutely questionable/non-existent depth at the 3,4 and 5 spots. And with the portal closed targets are limited. If we end up with Parker Freaking Braun as backup Center I won't even know what to think.

Agreed. Our two wing replacements are Marcus Adams and Timberlake. Timberlake is 6'4 idk how well he'll hold up defensively at the 3 and Marcus Adams is a totally unknown variable that we can't count on for now. Obviously bill will get a guy in but it's looking murky for now

Not worried in the least. My question is where is KJ going to play? So, we have KJ, Timberlake, and Adams potentially at 4. Starting lineup of: Juando/Morris/ Timberlake/KJ/ Dickinson. El Marko and Adams coming off the bench. Why are we gnashing our teeth and pulling out our hair? That's a hell of a team.

@benshawks08 Well - Duke, K-State, Mizzou - it doesn't matter. We have to root for this young man, invest in his mental, physical, spiritual and emotional well being because he lived in Lawrence for a few months and wore a Kansas uniform for a few minutes.

This is in no way directed at you @benshawks08. I just saw your post that listed Duke/K-State..

@nuleafjhawk if he goes to Duke I will be actively rooting for him to fail.

@Jethro said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Not worried in the least. My question is where is KJ going to play? So, we have KJ, Timberlake, and Adams potentially at 4. Starting lineup of: Juando/Morris/ Timberlake/KJ/ Dickinson. El Marko and Adams coming off the bench. Why are we gnashing our teeth and pulling out our hair? That's a hell of a team.

There's only 3 front court players on the team right now. KJ has to be the starting 4 with the current roster composition because he isn't sitting behind Marcus Adams.

I also question who the starting 3 will be because I have serious doubts about Timberlake's defense being good enough to play 30 mpg for Bill Self, but starting Marcus Adams at the 3 also means you don't have a big man on the bench either. Self absolutely has to land a starting caliber 3 or 4 from the guys who withdraw from the draft otherwise front court depth will be a very major problem next season.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@Jethro said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Not worried in the least. My question is where is KJ going to play? So, we have KJ, Timberlake, and Adams potentially at 4. Starting lineup of: Juando/Morris/ Timberlake/KJ/ Dickinson. El Marko and Adams coming off the bench. Why are we gnashing our teeth and pulling out our hair? That's a hell of a team.

There's only 3 front court players on the team right now. KJ has to be the starting 4 with the current roster composition because he isn't sitting behind Marcus Adams.

I also question who the starting 3 will be because I have serious doubts about Timberlake's defense being good enough to play 30 mpg for Bill Self, but starting Marcus Adams at the 3 also means you don't have a big man on the bench either. Self absolutely has to land a starting caliber 3 or 4 from the guys who withdraw from the draft otherwise front court depth will be a very major problem next season.

No doubt we need bench depth. But, we have 3 schollies available. I just don't think not getting Mgbako is going to be the death knell some seem to think.

@nuleafjhawk said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@benshawks08 Well - Duke, K-State, Mizzou - it doesn't matter. We have to root for this young man, invest in his mental, physical, spiritual and emotional well being because he lived in Lawrence for a few months and wore a Kansas uniform for a few minutes.

This is in no way directed at you @benshawks08. I just saw your post that listed Duke/K-State..

Dude what you did to that straw man is illegal in every state but New Mexico

@Jethro said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@Jethro said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Not worried in the least. My question is where is KJ going to play? So, we have KJ, Timberlake, and Adams potentially at 4. Starting lineup of: Juando/Morris/ Timberlake/KJ/ Dickinson. El Marko and Adams coming off the bench. Why are we gnashing our teeth and pulling out our hair? That's a hell of a team.

There's only 3 front court players on the team right now. KJ has to be the starting 4 with the current roster composition because he isn't sitting behind Marcus Adams.

I also question who the starting 3 will be because I have serious doubts about Timberlake's defense being good enough to play 30 mpg for Bill Self, but starting Marcus Adams at the 3 also means you don't have a big man on the bench either. Self absolutely has to land a starting caliber 3 or 4 from the guys who withdraw from the draft otherwise front court depth will be a very major problem next season.

No doubt we need bench depth. But, we have 3 schollies available. I just don't think not getting Mgbako is going to be the death knell some seem to think.

We definitely need depth at the 4/5 - arguably starter quality at the 4, given that KJ will have to be the primary back-up at the 5 for now. Are we still looking at Nelson? Any interest or shot at Kaluma, who would seem to be a good fit? What about either of the Tennessee guys? If none of them, who are the best options of those who don't stay in the draft?

@FarmerJayhawk said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@nuleafjhawk said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@benshawks08 Well - Duke, K-State, Mizzou - it doesn't matter. We have to root for this young man, invest in his mental, physical, spiritual and emotional well being because he lived in Lawrence for a few months and wore a Kansas uniform for a few minutes.

This is in no way directed at you @benshawks08. I just saw your post that listed Duke/K-State..

Dude what you did to that straw man is illegal in every state but New Mexico

And Louisiana. The only thing against the law in Louisiana is a bad meal.

@Jethro fact check: true. The best tailgate I've ever been to was in Lafayette.

@Kcmatt7 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@BShark said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Duke lock

Sickening tbh.

I'm really not crazy high on our starting lineup at the moment either. Even with Nelson, it is a bit concerning. The saving grace was that we would have a ton of depth. But with Udeh and Zuby out we have absolutely questionable/non-existent depth at the 3,4 and 5 spots. And with the portal closed targets are limited. If we end up with Parker Freaking Braun as backup Center I won't even know what to think.

At least we get to see their mom for another year.

@Jethro To me the issue is the portal is closed. You're getting who you're getting without some serious tampering happening for a grad transfer.

We may yet land a couple of NBA dropouts, but I would just say at this very second I'm concerned.

Unless some amazing 4 falls from the sky, the 3 spots we fill will all be back ups. Parker Braun is perfect.

Syracuse is trying to get in this one.

@BShark - ‘splain please?

@Gorilla72 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@BShark - ‘splain please?

Duke is the favorite, Syracuse is trying to get a visit after the dead period ends.

Final 247 portal rankings came out. Udeh was # 15 , talked about not to let the low numbers fool ya , that Udeh would be a really solid pickup for some program. - - Udeh has 3 CB'S for Duke right now , an Duke inside said that K/State and TCU were not feeling very confident about Udeh making his visits with them

Sounds like they are pretty excite about Udeh , nice get for them , like was stated Udeh is gonna be a solid player

I remain grossed out.

@approxinfinity said in Bye Bye Ernest:

I remain grossed out.

why are you grossed out ?

I hate Duke. So much.

@approxinfinity

A tale as old as time

@approxinfinity said in Bye Bye Ernest:

I hate Duke. So much.

Ahhh, but don't hate the player - - hate the game. I'm glad he is landing at a premier School with the tradition they have and be able to play. I want to see them all do well. - I rather he go there then that punk ass school down the pike

Academic issues may prevent him from transferring to Duke. WOW!

@BShark said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Syracuse is trying to get in this one.

Cuse are a great fit tbh

@BShark

Standards are high there. In any case we don't need him going there only to make Duke better.

Still an outside chance he stays here right? Like, obviously small, but still technically possible?

@benshawks08 technically yes. .00001% chance of happening

@Kcmatt7 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@BShark said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Syracuse is trying to get in this one.

Cuse are a great fit tbh

I think he takes the KSU and TCU visits now. Door is not fully closed on Duke. He'd have to retake some credits.

@BShark if he’s going to take more classes at KU might as well come back next fall 😉

Are Udeh and Kevin truly the best options to fill our two scholarship we have left open?

@benshawks08 give me Nelson and McCullar. We’d be an absolute menace on D

@FarmerJayhawk said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@BShark if he’s going to take more classes at KU might as well come back next fall 😉

LOL.

From what I've been told he'd have to retake the same classes at Duke over the summer.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@benshawks08 give me Nelson and McCullar. We’d be an absolute menace on D

Yeah Nelson and Spencer would be my top picks. Realistic educated guess is Pullin and Kaluma which is also pretty damn good.

@BShark said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@FarmerJayhawk said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@benshawks08 give me Nelson and McCullar. We’d be an absolute menace on D

Yeah Nelson and Spencer would be my top picks. Realistic educated guess is Pullin and Kaluma which is also pretty damn good.

Kaluma and Spencer would be my personal choices. Spencer is a proven sniper and top level defender amd Kaluma gives more options for subbing and line up combinations in the front court and wing spots.

I would prefer Spencer over Pullin. I would take Spencer even if it meant Timberlake walked bth.

Oh i also would take Spencer over McCullar no questions asked. Better player, period.

@Kcmatt7 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

I would prefer Spencer over Pullin. I would take Spencer even if it meant Timberlake walked bth.

Yeah both are one year rentals so you'd take the better one.

WAIT.....College athletes have to go to class? And get decent grades ??????
😳🥴😬
Mind - BLOWN.

@BShark said in Bye Bye Ernest:

Academic issues may prevent him from transferring to Duke. WOW!

Mercy , if true this Now would be the 2nd player with issues Love ( Michigan ) & now this ?

As it turns out there are indeed academic requirements for student athletes. Shocker to many that the money you spend on tickets and merch go to specialized counselors and other staff that guide athletes in all sports toward graduation, and that they graduate at a higher rate than other students. More at 10.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Bye Bye Ernest:

As it turns out there are indeed academic requirements for student athletes. Shocker to many that the money you spend on tickets and merch go to specialized counselors and other staff that guide athletes in all sports toward graduation, and that they graduate at a higher rate than other students. More at 10.

So what ever happened to all the rules and regs about players having to be on course to graduate, take x amount of classes, etc., for the team to be in good standing?

I'm recalling issues from the past when guys stayed for a year and left?

All that change with the 1 year portal rental?

@rockchalkjayhawk nope, all the same rules apply. Academics and Compliance are buried in transcript evals right now to make sure enough credits transfer for the recruit to be immediately eligible. For example, if an athlete takes a junior/senior level course at another school and it only transfers as a 300 level to KU, could make the athlete not eligible since they may not have enough credits to have made degree progress. Sometimes if you read “School X is no longer in the picture for Player Y” that can be the reason.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@rockchalkjayhawk nope, all the same rules apply. Academics and Compliance are buried in transcript evals right now to make sure enough credits transfer for the recruit to be immediately eligible. For example, if an athlete takes a junior/senior level course at another school and it only transfers as a 300 level to KU, could make the athlete not eligible since they may not have enough credits to have made degree progress. Sometimes if you read “School X is no longer in the picture for Player Y” that can be the reason.

Thanks for the scoop, @FarmerJayhawk .

This portal stuff i'm sure is making it challenging and adding staff to all sports compliance staffs.

So Udeh took 1 or more freshman level courses that didn’t transfer to Duke. Is that the gist of it?

Maybe by the end of the week Self will have convinced Ernest to stick around. I haven't been paying attention to 2024 recruiting, we got any bigs lined up? Wishful thinking on both?

@rockchalkjayhawk

@rockchalkjayhawk said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@FarmerJayhawk said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@rockchalkjayhawk nope, all the same rules apply. Academics and Compliance are buried in transcript evals right now to make sure enough credits transfer for the recruit to be immediately eligible. For example, if an athlete takes a junior/senior level course at another school and it only transfers as a 300 level to KU, could make the athlete not eligible since they may not have enough credits to have made degree progress. Sometimes if you read “School X is no longer in the picture for Player Y” that can be the reason.

Thanks for the scoop, @FarmerJayhawk .

This portal stuff i'm sure is making it challenging and adding staff to all sports compliance staffs.

For sure. My sister runs football academics at a G5 and her thoughts on the portal cannot be repeated in polite company

@FarmerJayhawk said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@rockchalkjayhawk

@rockchalkjayhawk said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@FarmerJayhawk said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@rockchalkjayhawk nope, all the same rules apply. Academics and Compliance are buried in transcript evals right now to make sure enough credits transfer for the recruit to be immediately eligible. For example, if an athlete takes a junior/senior level course at another school and it only transfers as a 300 level to KU, could make the athlete not eligible since they may not have enough credits to have made degree progress. Sometimes if you read “School X is no longer in the picture for Player Y” that can be the reason.

Thanks for the scoop, @FarmerJayhawk .

This portal stuff i'm sure is making it challenging and adding staff to all sports compliance staffs.

For sure. My sister runs football academics at a G5 and her thoughts on the portal cannot be repeated in polite company

Wow! Hopefully they added some staff for her and didn’t triple her workload!

Looks like he has landed at TCU.

Ooh, in conference. Let the rivalry, booing begin.

No booing. Unless TCU wins….🤣

Hate to see it! Never bothered me with anyone else, it does with him.

TCU was right there last year. They will be a real contender for B12 champion next year.

Not looking forward to that match up.

I don't think our guys will take kindly to him going to TCU. Thanks for the motivation- good luck...you'll need it, Ernest!

TCU is a good fit. I like Dixon. Wish him the best

@Gorilla72 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

No booing. Unless TCU wins….🤣

Ha. i won't boo either. Disappointed to see him leave.

@Jethro said in Bye Bye Ernest:

I don't think our guys will take kindly to him going to TCU. Thanks for the motivation- good luck...you'll need it, Ernest!

Most of "our guys" are also gone so I think it's hard them to be too upset about it. I'm certainly disappointed but still hope he has made a decision that will be good for him.

@benshawks08 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@Jethro said in Bye Bye Ernest:

I don't think our guys will take kindly to him going to TCU. Thanks for the motivation- good luck...you'll need it, Ernest!

Most of "our guys" are also gone so I think it's hard them to be too upset about it. I'm certainly disappointed but still hope he has made a decision that will be good for him.

I was thinking Juan and KJ when I wrote that. I haven't asked them though, so you could be right.

Isn’t it likely KU will only play TCU once this year since there are more teams?

@Kcmatt7 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

TCU is a good fit. I like Dixon. Wish him the best

I too like Jamie always havve, even when he was at Pitt. - -thought he got a bad deal at Pitt, actually was glad to see him land in the Big 12

I’m glad he’s in conference and we will get a chance to watch him grow. Think this is great.

@approxinfinity could be a :angry_face_with_horns: :cat: lot worse

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@approxinfinity He’s a great kid with crazy athletic ability. If he makes a leap this year it will hurt but Hunter is the better player.

I’ll always love Ernest

@Jethro said in Bye Bye Ernest:

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He is completely correct but some people are struggling with it.

@kuballin10 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@approxinfinity He’s a great kid with crazy athletic ability. If he makes a leap this year it will hurt but Hunter is the better player.

I’ll always love Ernest

I think this year, Parker might very well be a better player than Udeh. ducks

Now, down the line Udeh will be the better player probably but it's about right now.

@BShark Parker gonna be Clemence 2.0…..slow the roll on this and don’t let coach’s speak in the off-season get you excited

@kuballin10 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@BShark Parker gonna be Clemence 2.0…..slow the roll on this and don’t let coach’s speak in the off-season get you excited

Udeh was bad, no offensive game at all. He couldn't beat out 6'5'' KJ Adams for the spot. Mentioned this in the other thread but I think we will miss Zuby more down the line than Udeh. Could be wrong on this obviously.

I think Parker's stat line will be in line with one of Mitch's better seasons* which is fine. I'm going off watching him play, not what Bill is saying.

*So around 4pts/3rebs a game on 10-12 minutes.

@BShark said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@kuballin10 said in Bye Bye Ernest:

@BShark Parker gonna be Clemence 2.0…..slow the roll on this and don’t let coach’s speak in the off-season get you excited

Udeh was bad, no offensive game at all. He couldn't beat out 6'5'' KJ Adams for the spot. Mentioned this in the other thread but I think we will miss Zuby more down the line than Udeh. Could be wrong on this obviously.

I think Parker's stat line will be in line with one of Mitch's better seasons* which is fine. I'm going off watching him play, not what Bill is saying.

*So around 4pts/3rebs a game on 10-12 minutes.

Zuby was another tweener. Needed a few more inches to be a solid C prospect IMO.