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I saw a supposedly seriously posted question on Twitter, you know, X, the other day asking why do KU fans hate Missouri so much. It was pretty evenly answered by people living in Misery and people living in the sunflower state.

The hatred is real. They can't tolerate us because some Jayhawkers attacked Osceola and killed some slavers there. Of course the raid on Lawrence was far worse and resulted in a large loss of life. It's great to be able to say we hate them simply because we're on the right side of history in the conflict. Typically some of them uttered some nonsense about states rights being the issue while others cried foul on that and gave the reason for what it really is.

When I arrived on campus I was unaware of this history. I'd grown up with Bears/Packers and thought that was hatred but that was 'you suck and so does your grandma' type of hatred. But suddenly I got immersed in this rivalry and it didn't take long for me to develop my own hatred for all things Misery.

I don't think all the pent up hatred and anger towards them is going to help us this weekend, but I hope I'm wrong.

They never finish the sentence, states right to what?

I honestly have zero idea of how in the hell they can recruit black players with the history they proudly share. There will be thousands of folks in the stands wearing Quantrill shirts that say burn baby burn. It would be like Germany wearing hitler shirts to the Olympics.

@kjayhawks I've wondered the same thing.

Anyone interested in the history of the evil wrought by the miseryans should read the book "The Englishman in Kansas" by TH Gladstone.

Lawrence (and therefore KU by association) had a remarkable role in the termination of the abomination and horror that was American slavery. An early attempt at a Kansas constitution came out of Lecompton and included the right to own slaves. This proposal wasn't ratified by Congress. Anti-slavery residents in Lawrence and Kansas City then proposed a constitution that didn't include the right to own slaves, the Wyndotte Constitution which led to Kansas's admission as a state, a free state. Our admission tipped the number of anti-slavery votes in Congress in favor of abolition. Thereafter, South Carolina and other states attempted to secede from the union. To fight to become a free state, Lawrence residents campaigned for anti-slavery supporters, many from Illinois to come to Lawrence to live and boost the number of voters in favor of a free state. It's too early in the morning to look up more of the actual history, but it is truly fascinating how Lawrence residents in 1858-1860 fought to become a free state, which led to Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation. And yes, Missouri slavers fought Kansans the whole way.

Well, on the historical topic, here's one of those mom's-father's-brother things..

I recently learned of a connection to Quantrill's Raid on my mom's side. Most of the raiders were killed or got away, but one was captured by my mom's paternal grandmother's father. Apparently the rifle used to seize the raider was passed down to her uncle who gave it to her father and she inherited it when he died.

There are many accounts of the raid with conflicting details, so I take this with a bit of a grain of salt. Like anything, I figure there are some bits of truth in all of the accounts.

For the record - every week is hate Missouri week.

Learning some good interesting history here.

@bskeet That's a fascinating story to be connected with.

Football weekend chiefs game tonight, my sons game in the morning and the Americans vs the confederacy
Saturday

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KU sporting an interesting uni for this one.

@wissox how can you tell?

@nuleafjhawk Oh I saw a tweet about it earlier!

Ok, so the tweet was just for effect. Normal unis it looks like.

This is not good at all

Line bad and bad call

We gonna get waxed

Gonna be a looong day if we use our 'explosive' QB for run play handoffs and our defense can't stop them.

Oof

Horse collar?

What was the call?

@Crimsonorblue22 Taunting. Applied on Kick off I believe.

Well at least the XTR point was blocked.

@wissox on them?

@wissox bikini wax

@Crimsonorblue22 Yes.

Yes. It was the center for MO

@bskeet they might try replacing the explosive qb with a good one - Marshall

Does ESPN have a contract to show those kids with overalls and chest painted? Tired of seeing them.

Good 4th down play.

Didn't know you were allowed to hit a guy before he makes the catch. Nice 4th down call though!

Heck yeah!

Woohoo!!!!

Rock Chalk!!! What a catch!

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Great drive

Where r those guys? They might need protection!🤣👏👏👏

Now can the defense get off the bus

Good job special teams.

Great hit! Mizzou didn’t do very well w/coordinating their shirts in the stands!

Yes!! Yes!!! Yes!!!!

WOWWW!!! Scoop n Score!!

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I think it is cool that KU is showing the game on the football field. Is that common?

That’s some D!

@patoh3 I know they’ve done it in AFH for playoff games. Been awhile

How fun!

Defense stepped it up.

JD fumbles it.

This is a stupid review because we recovered it anyway clearly.

Lucky

Sweet

Ho Lee Cow

Wow, what a throw and catch! I know @nuleafjhawk hates him but I never really understood why.

Run it to the side. Up the gut has not worked.

Need casey

Who would have thought that we would score 21 points in the 1st quarter?

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I might want to amend my "we're gonna get waxed" comment from before.

Weren’t we 6.5 underdogs?

TD

Missouri allowed to challenge every call they don't like? Seemed pretty clear he was across the line.

@wissox I don't hate him. I just don't think he's as good as what he's been hyped up.

Although, he could possibly change my mind today. I'm not a closed book.

@nuleafjhawk bookmark it

How can u not see that?

Now we need to keep the energy up and not relax defense!

Gotta keep it up

Make them leave at half

@wissox I'm a rebel. I never liked Grady Dick either. (I'm surprised I could remember his name)

Official set a nice pic on our defender on that play.

Two offside penalties really hurt the D on this drive

@nuleafjhawk dang, he's such a nice, cool kid!

Need to get a score back

Beginning of the end

Can u swat it to the endzone

What's Lance mad about?

Can't advance a fumble?

I guess the rules don't matter anymore

How could they not see that?

Smh talk about extreme highs and lows

@DanR We advanced a fumble and scored, or do you mean they hit it to the end zone? I'm confused if we think they did that why it can't be reviewed. They reviewed two plays to try to benefit Misery so far.

Horrendous missed call but JD's ball security is horrible. Carrying the ball like a loaf of bread after getting bailed out earlier

@wissox have to have possession to advance. Maybe you can tap it with your hand, but you can't kick it and then run and jump on it for sure

@wissox we picked it up and ran, they swatted it to the end zone

Just not reviewable

This defense is on their heals now.

How is our depth on D? Problem we had last year guys got gassed.

@wissox are you saying they are injured?

@approxinfinity No, we're just looking bad right now.

Misery has a great kicker who got hurt last week. Our gain right now.

@wissox sorry, i was embracing the unintended pun. I started watching when we were up 21-6, so i am as about as bad luck as it comes. About to leave, expect a bounce back shortly

Missouri burned a lot of clock on these two drives

KU D may be gassed

False start much?

Time to mow the yard I guess

Missouri ran that play so fast we didn't have time to ask for a review. It may have been juggled.

Yeah they grinded out those last two drives. Defense is gassed

How many offensive plays did KU run in the 2nd quarter? The one?

My phone won't let me type all the curse words that I want to say.

Couldn’t get outside?

The producer must have a kid sittting there with his shirt off in overalls. We've seen them about 80 times so far.

So our effort to not go anywhere on our last possession was remarkably successful.

@mayjay said in Hate Missouri Week. Game chat here!:

So our effort to not go anywhere on our last possession was remarkably successful.

Did we even try? I’m at the game. Very upset with the drive. Saved time to just puddle the fuck around?

@Kcmatt7 said in Hate Missouri Week. Game chat here!:

@mayjay said in Hate Missouri Week. Game chat here!:

So our effort to not go anywhere on our last possession was remarkably successful.

Did we even try? I’m at the game. Very upset with the drive. Saved time to just puddle the fuck around?

Like I get the called timeouts. But we should have then instead tried to move the ball

@wissox said in Hate Missouri Week. Game chat here!:

The producer must have a kid sittting there with his shirt off in overalls. We've seen them about 80 times so far.

Those are 80 different parts of the crowd. It is high fashion week.

" We're up 21-6. Quit playing and act like complete morons now "

I hate this sport when we are the ones doing dumb things.

Lots of fun when we aren’t.

College football

Yell at the team instead of the Ref, Lance.

This is the defense that inspired me to write we're gonna get waxed earlier.

@nuleafjhawk Did we rehire the stupid offensive coordinator?

@mayjay You should see what he's doing to Wisconsin right now. It's ugly

Stupid plays before halftime.

Horrendous quarter

OK, Tied at half. Could ~~be~~ get worse.

You’d think that someone would be looking at the obvious pattern of catastrophe in the final 2 minutes of 1st and 2nd halves. Last year and now this year

I feel lucky to be tied after that second qtr, right up David Beatys alley -15 yards for the quarter. I’m sorry but I bet they come out and throat punch us right from the start

Four offensive plays in the 2nd quarter, right?

@bskeet yes for -15 yards and the defense was completely gassed which lead to that last FG.

We have to get the run game going or we are toast, crazy because central Arkansas damn near ran for 200 on these guys last week.

Offense needs to learn 2 things: how to play with a lead and how to play well without having momentum or rhythm.

And the whole squad has to play better in the final 2 minutes. By better I just mean don’t collapse.

I’d hate to see our +/- in the final 2 min of the last year or so.

Anyone notice the entirely white cast of the mizzou commercial. Lol. Slavers gonna be slavers.

@bskeet yes. But they were all really offensive

Here’s hoping our offense can actually get on the field on the second half.

@nuleafjhawk lol I see what you did there ;-)

We're really getting killed in 3rd down plays this game.

Missouri should be embarrassed only being tied against a team like ours at halftime.

Hey we finally got a 4th down stop! Need a long drive to give the D some rest here

@wissox meh. We are one missed call on the safety from leading at the half and then getting a stop to start the half. Still a ball game for sure.

Defense actually held them to a few field goals in some situations where a touchdown would have been crushing. Gonna need 35 to win though for sure.

facemask?

Facemask

I don't expect Missouri guys to be smart but that was really dumb when you're running a guy out of bounds and grab his helmet like that.

Good run

OUt of bounds.

Should be getting that play in ASAP

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Idk why we didn’t get up on the ball and roll there but 3 is okay. Let’s go defense

Oh I hate these stupid penalties even when they're not a penalty!

Self destruction

How many offside Penalties

We're getting good penetration in the backfield but once we get there the tackling and finishing of plays has been really really poor

Another 3rd down. Lets go DDDD

D is now gassed

Can’t tackle

Daniels and company needs to have a long drive to get them some rest

I feel like a long touchdown drive is a must right now

Missouri has 424 yards to our 125 😳😳

Is dawn davenport on Missouri's payroll?

@kjayhawks said in Hate Missouri Week. Game chat here!:

I feel like a long touchdown drive is a must right now

OK, what's the next must? :)

Omg had him twice JD

@wissox turnover or at least a stop. Give up 7 and we may as well go start the bus

Nagy smh have to let that go buddy.

Well here we are deep in our on territory big game, this is where legends are made

Should have let it go so the ball gets into the end zone?

We can’t be conservative here.

Catch that

Jalon swings that ball all over the stadium when he's running

Nice run and balance

Flag

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Shame on me for giving up on this team!

I’m taunting here.

I am not a fan of the plunger head guy.

D up! TO time!

Come defense need at least one more stop fellas

There is a lot of time yet. Be aggressive on D.

Jesus our 4th defense is the reason why it’s a game

JD time....we hope

Well for better or worse this will be decided in regulation

This is where I wish our running game was working to run some clock on this drive on the way to scoring with 1 second left.

Omg

Hishaw is worthless in the backfield

Henderson had it

Oh crap...

Gosh darn it

Hishaw has been underwhelming so far this year.

Done now

Shouldn’t we have gone for it? I know they likely would’ve have scored again if we didn’t make it. But that was our only chance unless we get a TO. That would b a miracle

@Crimsonorblue22 yeah not going for it seemed pretty wussy.

That drop in retrospect cost us this game.

I honestly have zero idea why you don’t going with how this defense has played from the second quarter on.

Well, it was much closer than I thought it would be.

Damn it this one hurts

Wollp. I take full blame. Kansas looked like dog ass every minute i watched.

I swear I hope we destroy their basketball team because what happened last year was unacceptable.

+/- in the final 2 minutes is epically bad

I just feel sick like I did after 6 of our 7 losses last season

Even if you don't get it, a field goal doesn't hurt you in that situation. Zero reason to punt. Put your trust in your best unit

No protection

@patoh3 Unfortunately, he's not really a lead back. Doesn't have close to the speed or shiftiness that Neal had...

Pretty sure Mizzou only punted one time in the game.

Sometimes it seems like we snatch losses from the jaws of victory.

@bskeet having their kicker out may have benefited them

That was fun

@kjayhawks We absolutely have done that!

This team is over reliant on Jalen Daniels.

Missouri has lost two reviews today. Why are they getting another?

Don’t you know? Home team gets as many as they want.

Silly to not throw it 10 yards out of bounds for a 6th guy. JD was solid today but 2 turnovers were very costly

Mizzou has almost 600 yards on offense - balanced between run and pass. Game really wasn't as close as the score indicated. Having said that, but for the dropped pass, the Hawks had a chance to steal one...

@DCHawker ya the defense is as hot butter much of the day. We fought and gave ourselves a good chance for 3.5 quarters just got beat by a better team. We need to spend this off week working in tackling

MO received 2 more points on the safety that should not have happened.

Take a weak off, regroup, West Virginia comes calling in two weeks. Get the record to 2-1...please.

@wissox 3-1?

Bad weekend, chiefs and KU!

Some thoughts I will get off my chest:

1. Our fourth quarter demons are still alive and well.
2. Our fourth down defense demons are as strong as ever
3. We will never have a truly great season if we can't win the occasional close game
4. We came in with a better game-plan than misery which is why we stayed in the game
5. That safety (a play in which the refs allowed misery to cheat) was a horrendous missed call. I don't think we deserved the win anyways but missing a call on a play that impactful is unacceptable.
6. Even worse, was the decision to punt on 4th and 7. In what world did we have a better chance of stopping the misery offense we had not stopped all game long than we did of converting on a 4th and 7. Leipold and the staff deserve a lot of leeway for what they've done for our program, but that was one of the worst coaching decisions I have ever seen. Maybe we need to hire an assistant coach whose job it is to analyze 3rd and 4th down decisions.
7. The difference in athleticism was on display in this game.
8. That misery quarterback is elite. Every single throw he made was perfect. Penn State was stupid for not starting him over Drew Allar, who is mediocre.
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9. We have to be able to hang onto a lead.

Go Army.

@patoh3 said in Hate Missouri Week. Game chat here!:

@wissox 3-1?

Oh yes, we're already 2-1

@wissox said in Hate Missouri Week. Game chat here!:

@patoh3 said in Hate Missouri Week. Game chat here!:

@wissox 3-1?

Oh yes, we're already 2-1

Yeah. Good to keep it in perspective.

Would never want a home loss,, but hard not to wish we had gone from 1-1 to 2-1 this time rather than going from 2-0 to 2-1.

I have to agree, I think Lance electing to kick the ball on fourth and seven was the first time have to question his decision .What the hell are w doing kicking the ball on fourth and seven when we haven't stopped Missouri all day and yet we punt- - -- -terrible call.

I think this game showed us our defense has a lot of work to do , we are a very average team if our RB'S can't do any better sheesh..

@Jhawk69 this guy didn't even start last week, the other qb started and got hurt. They were gonna switch at half. Dinky couldn't decide on a starter.

This game was lost in 2nd quarter when MO pretty much held the ball

@Crimsonorblue22 That is on the misery coaching staff for not properly evaluating their QB room. He is elite and should have been named the starter from the get-go.

The punt call was absolutely indefensible. You haven't gotten a stop all day and you give them the ball back with under 3 minutes left? That was so damn ridiculous, but has unfortunately become a pattern under Leipold. His has always been way too conservative in his game management and that absolutely comes from his first head coaching job being at a powerhouse program where that mindset was the right mentality most of the time. He has never developed a risk taking approach and that has been on display over his few years here. The decision in the 3rd quarter to kick a FG instead of going for it on the road isn't an aggressive mindset, it's a conservative one that has now cost KU several games.over the years.

Also with the defense, why were our corners playing so deep even in short yardage situations? That allowed Missouri to dink and dunk and control the clock all game long.

Even if KU goes 10-2, wins the Big 12 and makes the playoffs, if that second loss is to KSU, this season is still going to feel like a disappointment since we haven't beaten either team since 2008 when I was still a student at KU.

It hurts because it’s been the simplest of plays that have killed the last few minutes of half’s today and last season. Catch the football, hold on to the football, throw the football to your team and tackle the guy that’s right in front of you. We literally could be 15-1 it the last 16 games by making simple plays that D1 power 4 guys make routinely every single week. I’m glad we have the off week to refocus but WV at home is a must win for bowl eligibility

@Texas-Hawk-10 Yeah, I was not too keen on the punt. Ironically their lack of a kicker may have hurt us because several times (I think) they went for it on 4th when they would have kicked a FG instead and those plays kept drives alive instead of resulting in only 3 points on made FGs.

@wissox ya that 4th and 10 from the 28 prob isn’t even attempted with their kicker available. A few others are borderline.

Nice to see KSU get the loss they deserve, the question on X is if LL drops the KSU game does his seat get hot? I think if we reach a bowl game it does not. Miss a bowl with his stadium demands and the money Booth has just thrown in the program. Then the seat gets warm.

@Jhawk69 he looks elite when playing us. We'll see about the rest of the season

I was screaming at the tv on that stupid punt. Mizzou was moving the ball with ease and giving it back to them was the end. And what a message he sends to his offense... he doesn't trust their execution on big plays. @Texas-Hawk-10 called it right... indefensible!

Honestly it didn't even cross my mind that they might punt. After the Henderson drop I just assumed they would keep the offense on the field.

We gave up.

KU was fortunate to be in the game, based on yardage. I'm sure that's been said alot already but it was baffling

Thinking this morning, Mizzou just maybe a ready good football team going forward. Not sure I could name 10 teams that go into Columbia and are favored right now. Fresno beat Oregon State by 2 scores last night and we spanked them. The conference continues to look wide open after yesterday’s disappointing non-conference showing. Iowa state maybe the only clear favorite at this point in the season. WV our next opponent was just beat by Ohio 17-10. We have a lot of winnable games left on the schedule. We must reset and refocus this off week and get ready fro the meat of our schedule.

Not sure how good Oregon state is and remains to be seen where Missouri stacks up. Their QB was impressive at key moments and made few mistakes.

Historically they are somewhere in the middle of the SEC. Never in the top 25% and rarely in the bottom 25%. Did we lose to a team that is exceptionally good or another mid SEC team?

The rest of season awaits, including the entire conference. Plenty of opportunities in front. But improvement needs to be urgent and immediate. And BOTH sides — offense and defense — have equal need to improve.

College football is stupid. You can challenge all sorts of things that benefit Missouri, 3 times last night in fact, but when a fumble is batted into the endzone and refs miss it it can't be reviewed. If they saw the batted ball, not sure how that would have been placed. Would we have been awarded possession somewhere? If Missouri had been awarded possession they almost certainly would have scored a TD instead of just the 2 points from the safety so maybe it benefited us if MU gets the ball instead?

@wissox Not sure - in the last Chiefs game McConkey intentionally swapped a fumble out of bounds - it was a 10 yard penalty. If it was batted into the end zone I’m guessing it’s a safety.

@dylans we recovered it so not a chance they would gain possession, we like get it back from the illegal touching point plus 10 yards. The pick play in the end zone on 4th down was also a huge miss by the refs

@kjayhawks Yes, so we gain a first down maybe and they have no points and maybe regain some momentum. Big missed call.

@BShark if that game was in Lawrence we win by 2 td's. It's Black and White

A few years back when we were one of the worst football teams in D1 we weren't highly critical towards the coaching. Now, fan expectation is to WIN GAMES! What comes with that is a more critical perspective on the coaching. I'm a big fan of Lance... still... he made a monster error in the late punt and has to be called out on it. If he keeps that mentality, to that degree, we will remain very limited on how many games we can win!

If they fail the 4th down conversion, Lance is a failure for not trusting the defense. If he punts, Lance is a failure for not trusting the offense. If they go for it and get it, Lance is a genius. 🤷‍♂️

@dylans i dont think anyone here would blame him for going for it. It was the right choice.

@kjayhawks said in Hate Missouri Week. Game chat here!:

Thinking this morning, Mizzou just maybe a ready good football team going forward. Not sure I could name 10 teams that go into Columbia and are favored right now. Fresno beat Oregon State by 2 scores last night and we spanked them. The conference continues to look wide open after yesterday’s disappointing non-conference showing. Iowa state maybe the only clear favorite at this point in the season. WV our next opponent was just beat by Ohio 17-10. We have a lot of winnable games left on the schedule. We must reset and refocus this off week and get ready fro the meat of our schedule.

Fresno got a field goal to go up 2 with 30 seconds left and then a pick 6 to create that margin. They did not dominate Oregon St. at all.

I also can't say anything about ISU being a clear favorite when their two FBS wins are 3 point wins over teams two teams who right now look like they will finish in the bottom half of their conferences. They have not been dominant at all.

Texas Tech and Utah have looked like the two best teams so far to me, but I also fully acknowledge neither team has played anybody good yet, but Utah did at least play a P4 team on the road and dog walked UCLA. I think now that Whittingham has moved past Cam Rising at QB, they're going to be back to being really good.

@drgnslayr KU has a loser mentality in football. It appears it's happening to LL by osmosis. You can bet your butt he didn't win 47 National Championships up north (it was 47, right? A buttload anyway) by punting on short 4th down situations. He maybe didn't even have a punter. It's a catch 22. You can't be a winner with a loser's mindset and you can't get rid of the loser's mindset unless you win.
Come on November 3rd.

@approxinfinity said in Hate Missouri Week. Game chat here!:

@dylans i dont think anyone here would blame him for going for it. It was the right choice.

I ~~didn’t~~ never watch the KU football game. But reading this it is 100% stereotypical fan reactions.

The Chiefs fan site is hilariously stereotypical following their loss as well. (I did watch that shit show.) - it’s the refs - with numerous examples. It’s Spags - with numerous examples of the defense not being ready. It’s Reid - with numerous examples of the offense not performing except in dink and dunk passes. Kelce - too old. Mahomes - too many commercials. Etc.

I’d just say the Chargers came ready to play and whooped the Chiefs. That the Chiefs didn’t come ready to play and it cost them a game. The Chiefs should get better when their top two receivers get back. Spags defense takes times to coalesce- usually around 4-5 games to come together.

Fans gonna fan

I didn’t love the late punt but honestly it probably didn’t matter at all. The analytics say it’s about a wash either way. We also should’ve never been in that situation. The Henderson drop was brutal. We get that first and are cooking with gas.

Big picture, we’re fine. To me we look like a 8-9 win team. With a few lucky bounces we can play in Arlington. Not because we’re elite (we’re clearly not) but the rest of the league looks very mediocre. 7-2 gets us there and is doable.

Now that we’ve seen us for 3 straight weeks it’s the perfect time for a bye. Get healthy, especially at LB. You can almost do a mini fall camp and do some extra fundamental work. Lance’s teams always come out of byes very strong and we have 3 straight very winnable games coming up. There’s a good chance we’re sitting here in 4 weeks 5-1 and headed into our second bye 8-2 or 7-3.

@Texas-Hawk-10 Fair points, I just saw the box score on Fresno game. I keep forgetting Utah is in the conference now lol

@wissox They got the safety and then scored a TD on the next possession from the punt after the safety. That is a 9 point swing based upon a missed call. Now they probably would have scored another TD the next possession regardless, but we will never know. JD’s throws seemed to be off as well most of the game. Henderson had a couple of missed catches that would have helped tremendously. The offsides penalties were aggravating. I was always told to watch the ball and not the QB.

@patoh3 yes Henderson has the big drop but JD over threw him on two walk-in TDs at one point as well. Thats was the knock on JD when Bean was here, Beans long ball was better.

@dylans I understand the argument you are making but I really don't think many people would be upset with Lance for going for that 4th down in that situation.

On 4th down I felt it came down to Lance feeling more faith in our defense over our offense. All Mizzou needed was like one first down to ice the game and they were already smelling victory, at home! If we were the Philadelphia Eagles, I might have trusted my defense in that scenario... actually... no I wouldn't. On offense, we needed 7 yards to keep the drive alive. One successful play and we are in the game to win. On defense... Mizzou would have had several downs to ice the game with another first down. This is math.

@drgnslayr Pretty interesting to put a lot of faith in our defense at this point.

The football in the Big12 has gone from pretty dang solid to mid-major level, so maybe KU can finish above .500.

@dylans the conference doesn’t look good at all to me at this point. You have Tech, Utah and ISU. But im not sold on any of those tan right now. Whomever makes the playoffs likely gets smoked first game they play.

@kjayhawks We don't have any legacy football teams left once OU and Texas left. We are now a certified blue collar league.

I’m afraid that’s so @kjayhawks