Here we go! Bucket Bidunga, travel Tennessee
Goaltend?
Jeez flory finish man
Someone other than Flory needs to be taking shots right now.
Tr3
Tiller pushed him
Dude can we call at least one blatant travel on these Tennessee guards? Clueless about their pivot feet every single catch
Clean block
I gotta stop. Off to a bad start thinking every call is garbage :zipper-mouth_face:
35 is the worst traveler i have ever seen. Ok now i will stop.
Shots not going down. Not good
We're not being aggressive. Need to drive it.
Council can’t buy a jumper even with all this NIL
Not many people there.
Tre White, never change.
@approxinfinity looks like he bit his lip
Jesus council, we have missed about 15 bunnies
Could be a long night
Council never heard of a backboard before
Put Gee in. He at least scores.
We'd be winning if we could score. 5/19 from the field
Eli Lilly is sponsoring this tournament. Meanwhile they bought the nicest youth soccer fields on the east coast, West Creek in Goochland VA (which hosted the Nationals finals the last few years) and are turning it into a corporate campus.
@approxinfinity greedy bastar#☆s
Flagrant 1
That’s a truck stick
Ha. It was only a matter of time until Jamari getting mauled every game could no longer be overlooked. Whats a kid got to do to get a foul? Damn
White is a baller
Another nothing burger from Elmarko
Oh that was nice
Bidunga calm and collected
Can definitely tell this is everyone's 3rd game in 3 days. So many shots coming up short.
Get your head out your ass bidunga
Yeah Bidunga doesnt have his quick hops
Bonus time
See Council, what happens when you use the board?
Nice Melvin more of that
Ament has no fear.
Stop Flory. Your killing us
@approxinfinity said in Kansas vs Tennessee game thread:
Ament has no fear.
There's a reason why he's going to be a top 5 pick after this season.
Flory is 1/9 so far. 😬
@Texas-Hawk-10 this class is going to be very good.
Flory is gassed
Flory is not focused and he's hurried.
Geez so many missed bunnies
Seriously bill
@RockChalkinTexas Makes me think of last year.
Danger zone elmarko and kohl
Giving it away
Team isnt even playing hard
Elmarko shooting under 30% from field this season
Elmarko looks like it's his first game every time.
What's happened to Calderon? I thought he's not that bad.
Nothing to write home about.
Lucky to only be down 7. Keep it close then let’s see how we do late. Playing with house money (literally) anyway.
Think we need Dawson back.
Three guys missed 18 shots.
@approxinfinity Is Dawson injured?
Telling myself 13 needs to play through mistakes right now, and Bill yanks guys too much.
But come conference play if it doesn’t get better he needs to play less.
@approxinfinity That's our whole bench. Geez boys. We can lay this one on Flory being off.
I've seen reports that occupancy is way down in vegas and has been for a while. Maui tournament is mad this tourney is getting more publicity. But they aren't making any money at MGMGrand with that pitiful attendance of most games I have seen.
@approxinfinity said in Kansas vs Tennessee game thread:
Elmarko shooting under 30% from field this season
Which is still better than Council?!
We got some bricklayers.
Although bad shot choices by Flory are the main miscue today.
We did do better on turnovers
@RockChalkinTexas More and more each month. It's a bunch of hidden fees. $60 resort fees, $30 parking fees, $12 coffee. $5 bottled water. High minimum bets on blackjack. Etc.
We need Tiller to step up a bit.
And convince Flory to not take shots past 1 foot.
Some self inflicted wounds here so far, but of course the BIG Tennessee dudes are causing some of that.
Elmarko…sigh.
With all the NBA betting scandals it's ironic for Vegas to be the host.
Vegas can be swallowed by the sands from which it vomited forth.
I mean gradually and without casualties of course.
3 on Tre
Finally! Big-2-big
Nice job getting a good shot out of that Melvin
Niiiice Flory
Where would we be without Tre in this game ?- - our big are no facto Flory getting nothing from , they have Neutralized our Bigs. then we do what we always do , go through that 2-3 minute stretch tun brain dead and we go from 2 down to 9 down - - -mercy. could get really ugly here in the 2nd half
I dont know man. 3 games in 3 days. A win would be nice but does this game really matter at all?
Stupid tre
We are trouble now
@approxinfinity. difference between $300K or $200K
@RockChalkinTexas ah good point. I mostly just want no additional injuries.
Nice Kohl driving to the hoop.
Nice job white. Take yourself out
@BeddieKU23 That is one way to get a long rest.
ouch
Sure it matters. We don't look capable of beating good teams is what im seeing
Put in Ngala.
Flory's braids are too tight
Well given how gased everyone looks, makes good sense to run more Marko Kohl, Mbiya
Great pass Councill!
@RockChalkinTexas He can’t be any worse than Elmarko.
@BeddieKU23 sure, I guess. I would feel different if it wasnt this stupid tournament
Put Calderon in
Sure the 3 games in 3 days is wearing on this group. Feels like its always our excuse tho. Im just gonna leave it at that
Eyyyy saw one go down, good job Marko
Marko is such an enigma
Really need to get some of those layups to go
Marko gets fould there
Who's our best 3pt shooter?
Marko?? He is having some life.
Some life. Elmarko on fire
Are we good now? Only when Marko gets aggressive!
Come on Jayhawks! Come on refs!
He held Flory
@BeddieKU23 said in Kansas vs Tennessee game thread:
Sure the 3 games in 3 days is wearing on this group. Feels like its always our excuse tho. Im just gonna leave it at that
Self essentially played 7 against Notre Dame and 6 against Syracuse with all 5 starters playing 30+ minutes yesterday. Considering how many shots KU is missing short tonight, that's a classic sign of tired legs.
Can't have those turnovers
Use the board, Council!
Council 2-12. Yeah
Alright Elmarko. Keep it up!
Marko is getting it done..
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Kansas vs Tennessee game thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in Kansas vs Tennessee game thread:
Sure the 3 games in 3 days is wearing on this group. Feels like its always our excuse tho. Im just gonna leave it at that
Self essentially played 7 against Notre Dame and 6 against Syracuse with all 5 starters playing 30+ minutes yesterday. Considering how many shots KU is missing short tonight, that's a classic sign of tired legs.
So, that would argue for playing Ngala, Calderon and Mbyia a handful of minutes each. That seems to be what other teams are doing, at least early in the year. Same issue every year - apparently our 8-9-10 guys are much worse than their counterparts even on teams with clearly lesser talent overall...
Travelling and getting blocked
So, Kohl has gone 33 minutes without a rebound. Given his size and hops, that is really indefensible...
Wild wild Council..
Bad shot Tre
Ooof Tre
I am really enjoying how our guys are pump faking probing the seams as our interior players estabilish and reestablish their position. How many mindless interior passes did we throw last year because we didnt do that?
Booooo
That's a BS call
Lol white.
Mbiyaaaaa
Rebound.
@DCHawker said in Kansas vs Tennessee game thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Kansas vs Tennessee game thread:
@BeddieKU23 said in Kansas vs Tennessee game thread:
Sure the 3 games in 3 days is wearing on this group. Feels like its always our excuse tho. Im just gonna leave it at that
Self essentially played 7 against Notre Dame and 6 against Syracuse with all 5 starters playing 30+ minutes yesterday. Considering how many shots KU is missing short tonight, that's a classic sign of tired legs.
So, that would argue for playing Ngala, Calderon and Mbyia a handful of minutes each. That seems to be what other teams are doing, at least early in the year. Same issue every year - apparently our 8-9-10 guys are much worse than their counterparts even on teams with clearly lesser talent overall...
This is how Self has always been though. He coaches to win every game instead of getting those 8-9-10 players experience in close games against good team that can pay dividends in March. Obviously Self's philosophy and approach has been highly successful so it's hard to argue too much against it, but each approach has merit.
Mbyia is getting ready to be forced into action with White gone and Tiller with 4 now.
Lovely!
@Texas-Hawk-10 X10000000
MELVIN
What the ####?
God, all the fricking little things this year… so good! Energy!
MELVIN
That ain't junior ballin'
They need to hear
LET'S GO #JAYHAWKS
Its like last years compounding of constant errors makes it so clear how compounded little right things build into buckets
Every player can earn confidence with DP out.
Flory turns it over, we dont give up on the play, force the player to sideline and a bad pass while jamari hustles back and is there to intercept
Paulie
Melvin can smile while running faster than me for 30 minutes straight
Where was the foul on Marko?
I’m so glad that went in but how the hell was it not an and one
AND 1 WHERES THE CALL
wow, what a sequence!
That was fun
I like this new version of elmarko!
Twelve down to four up?
Burst of energy from Marko and Melvin
This team is proof you can have a likable team post NIL Era
I’m watching with all my Mizzou fan in-laws so I hope this keeps up
Owww
I think with Trey, Council, Marko combo - plus any 2 bigs, should carry the team while DP's out.
All they are doing is having Ament driving to the hole and throwing to the open man.
Mari!!!
@approxinfinity He just needs more confidence.. right?
Mari has shown the work he put in.
Big time shot Mari
Drive it
Drive it
Drive it
Defense playing tough as nails.
Let’s keep extending this one boys. I do not trust us yet lol
Mari and Elmarko have definitely redeemed themselves this week
They all want that $300,000!!!
Theres probably a little bit of imposter syndrome when you are the only 2 holdovers guards and the guards coming in are all highly coveted. Mari and Marko have proven they arent just hangers on. Brought it this tournament.
Don’t fizzle out now guys.
This team is so much better at drawing fouls this year.
Stunned complacent stare from Bill on the bench
Good job by Tiller not getting 5 there.
Hoping they hang tough these last few minutes
Come on Melvin needed that
@Texas-Hawk-10 so now i can bring it up. Why give tiller a meaningless foul end of first half because we were under the bonus?
@approxinfinity I agree. It was silly to waste it on him then.
@approxinfinity yes always thought that was silly, just play defense
@RockChalkinTexas Have Mbiya foul.
@approxinfinity said in Kansas vs Tennessee game thread:
@Texas-Hawk-10 so now i can bring it up. Why give tiller a meaningless foul end of first half because we were under the bonus?
I know the logic was to run enough time off so Tennessee couldn't get a great look, but I hate that strategy in the first half.
@RockChalkinTexas put him in to get the foul.
Big time FT's by Flory!
Everyone clutching hard down the stretch
Too many ghosts from the Houston game last year for me to say it yet.
MARI LFG
Can't believe what I'm seeing. Elmarko and Jamari being playable is a miracle. Hell they're straight up good today
Alright I'm starting to believe
Ice cold Flory.
Hit both of these and I'll feel good about it.
“No fouls” HCBS
This team is FUN.
My Mizzou in-laws are not appreciative of the chant I’m doing. Rock chalk! Happy turkey day!
This is a going to be a huge win for KU. Tennessee is a top 10 team and will be most of the year and probably the best team in the SEC this season.
Our bigs coming up big.
I’m so happy to watch Kansas basketball friends, we have athletes, push the ball and play above the rim
Team grew up this week. Love it
Best win in ages
Bring on UConn!!
@DanR said in Kansas vs Tennessee game thread:
My Mizzou in-laws are not appreciative of the chant I’m doing. Rock chalk! Happy turkey day!
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRUzQAxCWq4/?igsh=MXNjaDlmZmRnaWJ2YQ== ↗
Hanging 81 on Tennessee is super impressive. I love this crew.
Good guys win again
Gobble
Gobble
Gobble
Have a great Thanksgiving everyone.
I finally caught up to live! What a blast this has been. We were beheaded, dressed and ready to be cooked in the oven when these petersonless turkeys resurrected themselves and won this thing. This is an exhilerating win when considering what I was expecting without DP.
I was hoping we would be 2-1 this week and dreaming for 3-0 and now we are 6-2. Yes
Gotta let us back in the polls now.
Bill just called them tough. Watch out everyone.
Did we win? I couldn't watch and my stupid phone is telling me weird things
What a way to start off the holiday!! Hope everyone has a safe and Happy Thanksgiving!
@nuleafjhawk we were tough as nails second half
We can thank Mr. Blacksleave for fouling Flory late in the shotclock. Ricky was pissed at him. Yanked him out. Looks like the poor kid thought he was supposed to foul. But I think our defense holds them anyway.
@nuleafjhawk we lost by 42. Everyone's pissed.
This group is tougher than some of the turkeys you all will have to endure tomorrow. Love it.
Huge win. That was the most fun I've had that last 10 minutes in over a yr it felt
💙❤️🌾🌾🌾🏀🫶🥰👏👏👏
We were down 12 and i told my kid i would go play a video game with him…. Then never left the couch :)
Had to explain to him that Kansas was fighting back.
That's it, recs for every comment in the next 3 minutes!
A ranked win without DP is shocking. Credit to the guys
@rcjhdraft Best win since Duke a year ago I'd say. I thought the sky was the limit after that win.
That's all they are going to show about our win?
Their Gillispie is one bad dude.
Will this win get us into top 25?
@nuleafjhawk We had to suffer through it and you were probably watching Bambi ... or eating Bambi if it's hunting season there.
@approxinfinity Priorities, right?
@RockChalkinTexas said in Kansas vs Tennessee game thread:
That's all they are going to show about our win?
When the studio crew includes 2 of the fab 5 well Michigan's gonna get talked about I guess.
@FarmerJayhawk said in Kansas vs Tennessee game thread:
This group is tougher than some of the turkeys you all will have to endure tomorrow. Love it.
Cooking bag is critical
We got us some athletes this year.. fun to watch!
(Not missing juando and Hunter )
Well. I was hating on this stupid tournament until we went 3-0 . Now I can say “maybe we saw more of this teams ceiling with money on the table”
So do the players get to spilt the 300k or how does that work.
@BShark said in Kansas vs Tennessee game thread:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Kansas vs Tennessee game thread:
This group is tougher than some of the turkeys you all will have to endure tomorrow. Love it.
Cooking bag is critical
I’m brining then smoking, should be great
Any update on Dawson? With how Elmarko and Mari played this week, he could be behind the 8 ball and Kohl may see less minutes as well.
@RockChalkinTexas said in Kansas vs Tennessee game thread:
That's all they are going to show about our win?
Took them awhile, but doing it now. Filling up time before the next start.
@approxinfinity lol that’s about right
Tiller wasn't scoring but just pulled down 8 boards he is a luxury to us. And even Mbiya saved us by being heads up picked up Elmarko's fumble and one big step and wham.
There was fight in our boys. Never gave up. Me either!
RockChalk
When White stupidly fouled out I was kind of upset. But Jamari and ElMarko combine for 24 points, go 4-6 on 3's, make 9 of 10 FTs. I wonder what would have happened if Self had played them more instead of DaJuan?
My daughter and SIL are here, wanted to watch a movie. I said there's a good one called Michigan-Gonzaga, but they didn't want to watch.
Through 7 games on the NCAA stats page we're 9th in the country on 3 point percentage defense at 24%. Tennessee torched us for 28% but seemingly they were all in the first half. This tournament was great for 3 point defense for us. Seems like we forced a lot of bad threes this week.
We're also blocking a lot of shots and in top 10 nationally and improved on our average of 6.9 with 8 tonight. Tennessees length worried me but they didn't bother our team as much.
We are better than Gonzaga
@approxinfinity Wow, but are we better than Michigan?
guys I think we have us a team, a team with a lot of guts , showed a lot of toughness. Now I don't think we will get that kind of performance from El Marko every time out but sure is nice e have players that can step up every now and then
Then also Jamari has really steeped up an at least proved he can hit some three's
I think this team and that's what they are , seem like they really like one another ==, play well together. We have a chance to be really y good when Darryn gets back- - - - HUGE WIN
@BeddieKU23 Let's make sure it;s not our last
Meanwhile Kentucky handled Tennessee Tech.
Melvin Council Highlights vs. Tennessee (17 Pts, 6 Rebs, 4 Asts)
Elmarko Jackson Highlights vs. Tennessee (17 Pts, 4 Rebs)
I did kinda the same @approxinfinity .
We were down and nearly out, so I thought I’d change the perspective and head to the kitchen to brine the turkey!
Watching from afar did the trick :)
I'm sure this week was really great for Coach Self. The team really gelled.
Can anyone imagine self going down the bench and high fiving EVERY player on last years team? I think he likes these guys. I know they sure are a lot more likable to me.
Elmarko had been shelved by injury and not being very effective but even when he was down he kept plugging, shooting, driving and playing defense. I bad mouthed him because i'm a big whiny prima Donna. He knew he was a 5 star McD all american and just kept at it and bingo. Now we have a big strong point guard along with another big strong point guard in Melvin Council Jr. and a bigger stronger 3 guard in Tre White. All three are just fearless because they are as good or better each game than their opponents and keep pushing the Jayhawk envelope. Seeing these quiet and confident veteran guys loving each other is ... Don't forget that Tennessee played bully ball and got away with it. Just ask Jamari who ain't scared and is effing good himself. When Elmarko dribbled down the sideline in front of the scorers table and got hip checked off the court by the same guy who threw Jamari down like a pissed off golfer helicoptering his driver Elmarko somehow flew by, picked up his dribble and left old hip check in the dust.
@benshawks08 I mean they put a Gatorade towel on Self's head during the TV blurb while Self was saying.. I had been on them for being soft but they weren't today.
Looking at the head shot of DP during the post game huddle behind Self his expression was like #### what is going on. Might make the rehab feel better.
Jamari McDowell played great defense… He looks a lot like Marcus Garrett because he never stops moving his feet.. overall I really love the defensive effort by the team. Self got these guys to play hard, not soft.
A shoutout to Elmarko. I am not expecting him to suddenly be a star but I'm glad he finally got to see his shots start falling.
@Bosthawk I'm pretty sure Barnes told them to play the physical card and they got a little carried away. One guy pushed Tiller and he didn't move they smacked White and Council Jr.. Also Jamari and Elmarko plus everyone else. We kept our composure and made them pay. They hit several unconscious shots at the beginning and end of the half.
Is there a leader or two on this squad? Elmarko was directing traffic coming down the court and pointing out get that guy on their fast break. I think he has been paying attention these last months. Do you notice he is always looking for a driving lane. White is able at hold a guy off and bank it in while Melvin likes the Tyshawn Taylor wider swoop down the right side. Tiller takes the more direct route and Flory likes the jam but can flip it too.
Shots falling for Elmarko and Mari is a big confidence boost to them. Their defense was much better this week then previously. Both played hard and super proud of them. Very surprised tbh but happy to eat some crow on this duo.
It was cool to see teammates knew Elmarko was on a heater and Melvin followed his lead so they let them get downhill. That's this team's identity, getting to the rack. Even if it doesn't create an easier perimeter shots for this team.
Council and White give us a dynamic we haven't had the last few years, they know how to draw contact and get to the line, especially White. He's racking up FT attempts by just being a savy player, already twice as many makes as anyone else on the team. He seeks contact and that's something that's a big asset for this team.
One thing to consider with how Elmarko has struggled before last night, is he was able to practice much of last season with the injury so he basically took a year off. Mari was able to practice
Tre reminds me a little of Jalen Wilson. Not saying he is that caliber of player but he uses the same combo of physicality and savvy to draw a lot of fouls.
Elmarko taketh and giveth. Great win.
@Zabudda
Yeah that was rough- I’m not sure if this is league wide, but refs are letting players get away with murder. Basketball should not devolve into cage fighting.
Elmarko got fouled at half court - no call. He also got fouled on that awesome critical scoop shot. And early, flory’s shot was blocked but replay showed it was a goaltend.
Self is really engaged with this team which doesn't bode well for Uconn and beyond. It's like he now has an option of subbing for specific outcomes instead of looking down the bench and hoping. I really liked Mbiya getting his bit of playing time. It seems he fills the whole lane and is gifted with coordinated movements and can jump. We may love him next year and beyond. Tiller is so long he barely needs to jump for a dunk. Rosario is not afraid to go to the hoop with attitude and hops.
@Bosthawk You are right on all counts. It was much worse 10 years or so ago and had shut it down. Tennessee is in the SEC and that is more accepted. I watch all of Arkansas BB and see the intimidation vibe a lot. My wife told me you can root for more than one team. I wouldn't call it rooting and she had me call the hogs but she said no don't do that again.
I see that we the posters have cut way back on saying DP this and DP that though he is golden. It seems we now are seeing how good we can be with the status quo. I think we need to take advantage of having White, Melvino, Flory and Tiller while we can. We still can't safely say how good we are which hasn't stopped us as we are a wide ranging group of cautious to reckless and hilarious guys and gals. Plus knowledgeable, por favor.
@Crimsonorblue22 said in Kansas vs Tennessee game thread:
@Jhawk69 he rebounds like jwill too
Didn't rebound to start the year. Guessing Bill called him SAAWWWWWFT after the UNC game.