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Arkansas beat them by 50, we'd beat Arkansas by about 20, so we should win by 70

HIDE YO KIDZ

Getting nervous, my ESPN3 hasn't got the little play arrow yet.

Tipping off in seconds.

Would love to see some inside out action tonight.

I would just love to see it! Guess I will be up late to night to catch the replay

I'm in, well after the little circle stops spinning.

I want to see Bragg do something impressive.

JJ is Dynomite.

Bragg didn't start? Hope that makes him mad.

Lets go

@KUSTEVE Need a stream fam.

Alright were is the great link tonight?

That was a sweet little jumper there Dynomite, I mean JJ

Frank the Tank does his thing. JNewell is really excited about him this year.

None of the links I have used in the past have KU listed tonight

@Kubie Man that sucks. I'm having no luck

Vick just body surfed on that dude. How was that a block, lol

That was Jamariesque

@DoubleDD come on down

no defense early, no rotation what so ever or communication

Great d! Nice rotating

Why do they call a shot clock when we have the ball happens every year WTF

@wissoxfan83 we're not showing any sets, bigger fish to fry next. I don't like to compare scores.

@kjayhawks dunk for sure!

Guys gotta start pushing transition. This team will not make it far w/1/2 ct offense sets.

@Crimsonorblue22 Differnt teams match differently, ex. TCU 24 KU 23, Baylor 49 KU 7, then TCU just beat Baylor bye 50 same in both sports.

Bragg soft!

can at least listen to the game here http://tunein.com/radio/Jayhawk-IMG-Sports-Network-s230236/ ↗

this is again some really bad basketball

Well I wasn't being serious about winning by 70!

Grab the ball!

disappointed we didnt come out better after last week

That's the way to beat the zone

34 is on the Sherron Their BWW mini corndog diet. He's festivly plump before Thanksgiving.

Their 34.

@BeddieKU23 said:

this is again some really bad basketball

It's concerning. Self has a lot of work to do to get this group to play as a team.

Naismith Court looks like a NASCAR. When in the name of Lew did we start selling so much advertising space?

@dynomitehawk that's coaches son, Shawn was a heck of a player!

Why do these guys wear white tights? Me, I show off my legs.

Looked like frank hurt his thumb

@wissoxfan83 😳

Udoka gonna be a beast sooner rather than later

Udoka came to KU with 1 good skill and he can't even do that well. good lord

@BShark

Very I watched Duke and Indiana's pre-season games and these efforts will not beat either

Udoka is gonna be YUGE

@BeddieKU23 he should be a Jr in hs, he'll get there

I mean this in the best way, but he kinda looks like that chick on Ghostbusters.

@Crimsonorblue22

Definitely maybe by Conference Play he'll show signs

@BeddieKU23 coach said he's a sponge

I don't know nothing about nothing, but I dont' think you can tell how we'll do against Duke or Indiana from how we're playing against Emporia St.

@Crimsonorblue22

fouling him and putting him on the line will be noticed quick with that release

DG lookin better

Team needs some swagger. Hoping to see Dynomite get some nasty dunks, and get hungry.

Next year is the year for Udoka honestly. Just need minutes here and there from him this year.

@Crimsonorblue22

yes his evolution into more of a top option is key

@BeddieKU23 If we shoot FT's like this you might be right about the not beating Duke thing!

I like vick

nice hustle by vick there

LL working hard

@wissoxfan83 better than last game, oops

I love Carlton Bragg. He's positive energy is awesome. ITS NOT UNUSUAL TO BE LOVED BY ANYONE!!!!

DG

JOSH

that last shot by Jackson has to be corrected by coaching. he was falling away from his own body

@dynomitehawk I thing Bragg is soft, but I like him

Doke!

Well, we are rebounding tonight that's for sure.

Good group in

Doke turned to rebound and knocked two guys down LOL

Svi the sniper

21-2 run....

that shot looks pure when he gets properly lined up

How many 3's?

It's like the last 50 mins of basketball was a freshman dance with erryone standing around waiting for someone to make a move. Team is gelling as we speak, and Bill Self is a Shaman. He's a wizard of the Ghandolf stature. His hairpiece could get laid faster than me.

@Crimsonorblue22

2 svi

1 frank

1 DG

Svidunkoslav

Oh my. Svi.... wow.

Fun!

The thoroughbreds are running. Awesome.

Iseesvidunk

I'M DOING THE CARLTON

Svi engaged on D now too. Me gusta.

Svi quick hands!

I have Shawn vandiver's autograph on a ball. Whoop!

This reminds me of when we beat Marquette in the Final Four. Do you think Tom Crean remembers that massacre?

Bragg🙄

@Crimsonorblue22 said:

Bragg🙄

He really should have finished that.

Brady Morningstar was in the 8th grade for the third time when he was Svi's age.

@BShark gotta catch it first

good lord carlton your acting like the ball is the plague

Poor coleby! I'm assuming he was much better before the injury

@Crimsonorblue22

he was, very active player

Svi is 4 months younger than JJ

@BeddieKU23

Bragg not being good will make this season a lot more challenging.

Why no Jaybate in the game blogs?

Svi will not be here next year if he fills that role consistently. he's looked much improved

@BeddieKU23 said:

Svi will not be here next year if he fills that role consistently. he's looked much improved

He looks like a complete player. If he does this consistently against more athletic teams, he's a lottery pick.

@BShark

gotta be nerves but he needs to worry about being aggressive to the ball.

Kinda worried that we play in Honolulu, then 4 days later in NYC... also the whole Indiana and Duke thing.

@BShark

and that will be the big key, consistently. If he rebounds, makes 3's and does the little things he'll get drafted.

@dynomitehawk He ran out of words

Attaboy Mitch.

@wissoxfan83

hahah that is great

Jackson's passing ability is what seperates him from Selden from a year ago

Is anyone else checking in on the UK game??? Holy scoring... going to be tough.

We should get a set play where Udoka tackles coach K like a linebacker.

How we doing on to's?

@dynomitehawk Or a play where Bill Self trips Grayson.

@CaptnMo said:

Is anyone else checking in on the UK game??? Holy scoring... going to be tough.

Insane score, but UK will still probably have offensive issues against athletic teams this year.

come on udoka. simple dunk

@BeddieKU23 he did

The ISU scoreline is also crazy.

Doke!

I can see it now. Coach K's American Express commercial.. "I don't consider myself a great basketball coach. I consider myself a great basketball coach who got concussed by a giant 300 lb African yelling coach "give me minutes fo dis"

Svi sweet!

wow that was awesome Svi.

Frank holding the left thumb going into the locker room. Not good

@DanR did he land on it?

That behind the back pass from SVI was sick.

I go back to work part time tomorrow. Last time I worked AND drove my car was June 23 rd. Nothing though would keep me from watching the Jayhawks. Liking what I am seeing.

@Crimsonorblue22 didn't land on it. HAND jammed when svi tried to save the ball under the basket and whipped the ball back.

@Crimsonorblue22 he has been holding it most of the half. Tough hombre!

@RockChalkinTexas improvement👍💃🎈🎉

Man - I'm really loving what Svi is showing us. He's taking this $hit over. I haven't seen a dominant hawk like this since Julian or Sherron. Very, very encouraging.

Ok guys, I am at a rehearsal. How do we look?

@HawkChamp Better than Tuesday

@HawkChamp Like Jimmy Chitwood himself was reincarnated in the body of a Ukranian.

Thanks guys. How's the rebounding?

Rebounding - decent. Transition incredible.

@HawkChamp FT's still crap.

Tyler Self looks cool as a cucumber on that bench.

I bet that 34 wins a lot of horse games with that outside shot of his.

Love it. No more shooting. Only dunks.

@wissoxfan83 coaches kid

To' s better too, less of them. Frank's hand must be ok

Kentucky 156 Asbury 63. They're NAIA. Don't read much into it.

Is Living on a Prayer an oldie now?!?

Based on these 2 games, I have a feeling I will be repeating "Please just make your effing free throws" with a gradual increase in volume until I'm screaming at the top of my lungs by games end.

Udoku get ball. Udoku score.

Udoka doing things.

My outside Udoku voice is very similar to my inner Dynomite voice.

@wissoxfan83 KU 150 UK 95...the only game I have ever taken a 150 point total for anything meaningful.

@bmensch1 What year was that? 89?

@dynomitehawk I guess they know all the words. Same w/sweet Caroline, da da da

I like doke

Unselfish. Awesome. Fun.

@wissoxfan83 Yes!

@wissoxfan83 I was there. It was fun.

Dang!

@wissoxfan83 yeah...or 90...I watched a highlight on YouTube a couple months ago...but it focused on Roy just putting in all his starters cause pitino wouldn't stop shooting threes.

@tundrahok Year after I graduated, therefore, no 150-95 for me!

Is Udoka running as fast as the radio guys are implying?

@Kubie said:

Is Udoka running as fast as the radio guys are implying?

He is impressing me tonight. Thank goodness for Hudy.

@Kubie not bad, cherry picked a bit on that quick steal

@dynomitehawk

I'm dead.

UDOKU

2 points, 4 rebounds, 5 TOs, 5 fouls for Bragg in 15 minutes.

@BShark

not sure that statline indicates just how poorly he played out there

@BeddieKU23 said:

@BShark

not sure that statline indicates just how poorly he played out there

Which is really something because it's terrible.

Oh Bill let's let Mason have the rest of the night off.

OH MY GOD JOSH

DYNOMITE!!!

Wow Josh

Good fighting for boards

This has to be Lightfoot last game of the season and just red shirt...right

No

@bmensch1 said:

This has to be Lightfoot last game of the season and just red shirt...right?

Normally yes but it's not like we have a surplus of post players. Might need him in a pinch.

@bmensch1 we only have 10 players

@bmensch1 said:

This has to be Lightfoot last game of the season and just red shirt...right

No

Sorry, I didn't intend to edit your post. Using a phone and I have big fingers

Can't wait for the season opener. Gonna be a fun first 2 games.

There doesn't seem to be a single knucklehead on this team (off the court).

Coleby!

@Crimsonorblue22 FOr the rest of us waiting to see what Coleby does!

@dynomitehawk most of the team is under 21!

Tyler Self to the rescue!!!

Good hustle

I honestly can't tell the difference between Tyler and Svi on the court.

will we get to triples 100

@kjayhawks If they give it to Tyler

I like ltfoot

Geez Svi!

These games are better than not playing at all, but goodness these are boring.

@wissoxfan83 I'm having a good time!

Svi gonna b sore tmrw!

@Crimsonorblue22 Me too! Better than working.

@Crimsonorblue22 That's good, just speaking for me really, and whomever liked my comment!

Bragg is like the new Graves I remember him getting 2 fouls in seconds one time.

That behind the back from Tyler to the ref was bad ass.

Does the clock matter in this game

Lightfoot's free throws look much better tonight

Tyler just got a trillion.

@wissoxfan83 I'm still thinking about your legs!

Glad ralley house kept those two kstate women in their commercial

@Crimsonorblue22 Oh boy, I hope my wife doesn't read that

KU Cheerleaders. That is all.

Anybody going to a game? I'm going to the Stanford game

You can tell Coleby still isn't confident in his knee.

Coleby can dunk!

Imma go to a home game. I'm living in Lawrence now.

Lightfoot BOOOOOMMMM

Lightfoot doing things.

@dynomitehawk love it!

@Crimsonorblue22 I'm hoping someone can hook me up with tickets when they play at Texas. We're going to drive over that day.

@wissoxfan83 talk to rockchalking

Mitch is a keeper. Got a nasty streak

@DanR said:

Mitch is a keeper. Got a nasty streak

Fans of opposing schools are gonna be sooooo sick of him by his SR year.

Thanks for chatting. Got to run.

@DanR and he loves KU!

love the freshmen!

@DanR gotta get Bragg going

@Crimsonorblue22 Yes, Bill has to light a fire under him somehow.

I predicted 103 to 47.

What's the score so?

@jaybate-1.0 104-62

@jaybate-1.0

104 - 62

I liked Vick's short shorts! Wish I was going to Hawaii. See you all for Indiana!

@kjayhawks

Thx. I was way off. My bad.

SCORCHING HOT TAKE: We are worse than Arkansas.

(This is a joke)

@BShark

Give me a quick and dirty on who did well and who didn't.

@RockChalkinTexas lets do it the next time they go for that tourney!

Please. Didn't mean to be rude.

@jaybate-1.0 Bragg is really struggling, fouled out too

@Crimsonorblue22

Not to worry about Bragg. He was destined to suck for half a season, while he figures out the new body he is inhabiting.

@jaybate-1.0 Mason rock solid. Can score at will. Slashing, coast to coast and from either side.

@jaybate-1.0

Studbosses: Svi, Mason, Graham, Josh
Good: Udoka, Lucas, Mitch, Vick
WOOF CITY EXPRESS: Bragg

@jaybate-1.0 Josh Jackson had some sweet moves and ltft killed a guy. Doke dunked a bunch. Svi great game! DG hitting

I pulled up the box.

Landen got 4 OR and 3 DR in 16 minutes; that's good.

I love Shawn vandiver

Doke only had three fouls in 16 minutes, and he grabbed 7 reebs; that's good.

@jaybate-1.0 Udoka and Josh were excellent. Udoka was on the receiving end of I think 5 alley oops. Both ultra aggressive but composed. Not like freshmen. The guard play from Frank and Devonte settled into commanding the game. Svi and Devonte jumped passing lanes and looked like the leash is off there. Svi participated in several areas and looked great. Vick got the start and played well but was quiet. Landen played more physically and did what was needed. Carlton looked lost and forced some passes. Lightfoot in limited minutes continued to look like a future gem. Coleby still looks flat footed but was a little more mobile and scored in mop up minutes

@approxinfinity

Thanks. Your new nickname is "THE CONDENSER"!!!!!

@jaybate-1.0 said:

Doke only had three fouls in 16 minutes, and he grabbed 7 reebs; that's good.

I was close to putting Udoka in the studboss category. Had good and bad moments. You can tell he really only knows how to dunk right now, but maybe that's enough for him this year.

@jaybate-1.0 Vick started over Bragg. Bill went small.

Svi's line score finally looks like it was supposed to the last two seasons. Big numbers per minute, no fouls and only 1 TO.

Go, Svi, go!!!

@BShark block and run the floor, rebound, good enough

Frank's line looks very solid

@jaybate-1.0 said:

Svi's line score finally looks like it was supposed to the last two seasons. Big numbers per minute, no fouls and only 1 TO.

Go, Svi, go!!!

He looked really damn good.

KU looked a lot better tonight with a lot of rust knocked off. Also like Self giving IU and Duke something to prepare or with two different starting line ups.

This is going to be a tough team to shorten the rotation on. I hope Lightfoot makes the cut.

@BShark

So glad to hear it. Thx.

@approxinfinity

So I still haven't seen Lightfoot. What does he bring as a big?

@Crimsonorblue22 said:

@BShark block and run the floor, rebound, good enough

I hope he plays enough to foul out of every game honestly. Just give him as many minutes as he can handle.

@jaybate-1.0 dirty work! He killed a guy

@approxinfinity said:

This is going to be a tough team to shorten the rotation on. I hope Lightfoot makes the cut.

Mitch is def ahead of Coleby right now.

@jaybate-1.0 Frank was solid too for sure. Lots to like about this game all around. Only rotation guy struggling was Carlton and he still grabbed a couple boards and scored. Unfortunately with this depth it might mean an easy doghouse for Self to slide Carlton into. But his sideline body language was still good cheering on the walk ons

@Crimsonorblue22

Oooh, we can always use another meany

@jaybate-1.0 he said he wanted to bring energy like mari

@jaybate-1.0 he's tough, hustles, is surprisingly mobile and has solid hops. He seems to be in the right place a lot and intuitively make the right play. He's ripping the ball away from people too.

@approxinfinity

Its quite possible Bragg is already in the toughening box. Self always sticks one newbie he's going to depend on most of the season in there first. Bragg may have been being psychologically dismantled by Self the last week or two in practices. He is brutal when its you turn in the toughening box.

@approxinfinity said:
Lightfoot in limited minutes continued to look like a future gem. Coleby still looks flat footed but was a little more mobile and scored in mop up minutes

Fringe top 100 ditr are the best ditr. Though Lucas was like 250+/practically unranked which is a huge testament to so many things. His work ethic, Hudy, Self's coaching etc...

@Crimsonorblue22

Ooh, Self will probably adopt him then, especially if he plays operable. Self loves the play operable second tier guys. He loves them like no others.

@approxinfinity

I'm sold on him sight unseen then.

To anyone...

When was the last time three first year big men played 9, 16, and 15 minutes without a pop tart? I can't ever remember something like that in Self's tenure. First year bigs like Colby (I know he was practicing last season but he's on one wheel), Udoka and Lightfoot have done something amazing, even if its off Broadway in an exhibition.

Tyler may have played himself into being manager. Not much of a line score for playing against ESU.

Anyone,

Is Lightfoot supposed to be 4-7 kind of a FT shooter, or was he just off tonight?

Much, much better game all around. Yes, Bragg is struggling. It's like his timing is off. But, he's playing hard and he has such a great attitude that I'm sure he will be a consistent contributor by January. Great tune up for Indiana. RCJH

@jaybate-1.0 Josh was nasty too

I am really liking those 5 assists by our OAD.

That may be another first this early in the season.

Doke, Josh and Svi w/post game interviews.

@jaybate-1.0 Bragg didn't start. Vick did

Coach Self just said Carlton is a really good player, he's just in a funk. Does everyone get the one hour post-game show?

About LaGerrie,

Actually, that quiet line could bode well for him. He was clearly ice cold from outside, but did not let it unsettle him. 5-6 front the FT line, and 4 reebs, and ZERO turnovers in 25 minutes is the kind of performance that is going to get him some SELF trust for the Indiana game.

And wouldn't it be great if he came out 4-4 against them Hoosiers?

@stoptheflop me

@jaybate-1.0 he's hustle not showing in box score

@stoptheflop

Not me.

When a player is in a funk this early, it translates to TOUGHENING BOX!!!!!!!!!!!

@jaybate-1.0 I still think LL is a lil leaner

LL much better offensively

@jaybate-1.0 Another thing about Lightfoot... he's in the right places on the floor, setting screens on O, filling lanes on D, but not wasting energy flying around (like Bragg is right now). Showing signs he has a high BB IQ.

Could be Bragg is just so much faster than the competition right now, but it seems like he just needs to dial it back a half notch and just use the afterburners when he needs to.

Doke... if all he does is run the floor for dunks, grab 7-8 boards and block 3-4 shots a night, I'd be thrilled. But he looks MUCH better than I expected this early.

@Crimsonorblue22

I COULD SEE VICK PULLING A START VS. INDIANA, AFTER THIS PERFORMANCE.

I think Bragg could have problems with how rough Indiana will play this early in the season.

Self is probably trying to make Indiana prepare for Vick, but once Bragg has a chance to watch a few minutes and feel for what will be allowed and what will not be, then I am hoping Bragg will come in and do his thing. We are going to need four bigs even with playing a lot of 4 out.

@Crimsonorblue22 said:

LL much better offensively

Great to hear.

@DanR

Makes sense on all counts. Thx.

Gotta get our newbies into a Big Ten bang ball game and see which ones like it, and which ones its going to be an acquired taste.

Sounds like Doke and Lightfoot will like it, but you never know till the live rounds fly.

Good night all.

The old man has to get his rest now.

Rock Chalk!

Jesus UK put up 156 points tonight

@jaybate-1.0 when ltft killed a guy the bench was priceless!

Doke is bright, did a good job in his interview!

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Svi trying to break a hip

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Ltft killing a guy

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Bench excited about ltft's dunk

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Ltft taking a charge

I told you that Lightfoot would be the breakout player for KU; so far, so good. At this point I would put him ahead of Bragg and Coleby, based on performance to date. He might end up being the steal of the class.

I don't know what to make of Bragg. He has the tools, he has been in the system for a year now but he seems at time lost and to have butter fingers, missed a dunk early when the ball seem to squirt off his hands, then he missed a couple of rebounds by not being able to hold on to the ball. One time 3 KU players go after the rebound with no ESU players around, fumble the ball that goes out of bound for the turnover...embarrassing.

I'm sure Carlton has been preparing to be the man this year for 2 years now, during his recruitment, and last year, the staff, his family, the students all expected this to be his opportunity to take the offensive big man reigns from a graduating senior scorer in Ellis. And then along came Jackson, Udoka and Lightfoot, the freshmen that weren't, and then Vick getting the start in the second exhibition game, and all those presumed opportunities now appear writ in water, not stone.

There is no doubt you're right @jaybate-1.0 , this is already the toughening box.

Go Carlton! You can and will be great on this team that is great too!

@approxinfinity yeah, he was green last year and had freshman moments, but this is nothing like last year. He also has not been put in a position to score. How many times has he had the ball on the block for a b2b move? Or how many times has he been in a pick and pop situation? I don't remember one so far.

Coach said he is a good player and in a funk. Prediction - he is going to snap out of it pretty soon. Hopefully on Friday.

Re Lightfoot's ft shooting: stats over time will tell the tale but I think he will be fine. KU is his dream school so I'm guessing he was super nervous in these exhibitions.

@BShark

He looks like he has good form. Could be nerves, something to monitor

@JayHawkFanToo said:

I told you that Lightfoot would be the breakout player for KU; so far, so good. At this point I would put him ahead of Bragg and Coleby, based on performance to date. He might end up being the steal of the class.

Only exhibitions so far but I have to tip my hat to you. He is high bb iq (this team in general hooo boy I can't recall having 2 large wings with the feel for the game that Josh and Svi do) and is aggressive, two traits that will get you on the floor for Self.

@approxinfinity My prediction all along has been CB will need to conquer college bb before he goes pro. I think he'll need another year here. 5 TOs/ 5 fouls = hot mess. He has enormous talent, but has to solve the mental aspect first, imo.

@KUSTEVE

Definitely looks that way but let's wait and see what he does first in real games. I can't imagine the lights won't come on when it matters. He's an intelligent kid with great character and I can't imagine what he's going through right now is going to last.

So much summertime talk about Bragg needing to become our next Perry Ellis, putting up substantial numbers; is little wonder that this soph, who really didn't play significant minutes last season, is struggling to find and establish his game. CB has the talent to rise from his current "funk," given time and opportunity. Jaybate probably on target re Self's "toughening box." Seems as tho someone every season must endure that specific role! And Lightfoot: gonna be tough for Self to seal this freshman to his bench. An early riser, for sure.

@KUSTEVE

I was looking at these number earlier and shaking my head. It seem that Carlton has let the hype and expectations get to him and his head is just not in the game. Maybe he needs to start thinking about staying one more year and get the expectation monkey of his back and go back top playing basketball unencumbered and having fun while doing it.

For KU to be as successful as predicted, Bragg needs to have a good to very good season. 2 points, 4 rebounds, 5 turnover (out of 11 total) and 5 fouls in 15 minutes is what you get from an end of bench player in a pinch and not form a starter.

The scheme to play 4 guards with Bragg at center is just not happening right now. I can see going with Lucas or Lightfoot or maybe even Dok ahead of Bragg at this time.

@JayHawkFanToo I think CB will be just fine... eventually. I don't think he is ready yet to dominate, and will grow nicely into a solid contributor by year's end I am of the opinion this team doesn't need CB to be a star to be a complete badass team, final four/national championship team. You have future NBA pros sitting on the bench, itching to get into the mix. Don't think for a second Coach won't slap Doke into the lineup at the same time as LL - we can go as big as anybody in the country if need be. The other path opens the door to vets Svi and Vick, and now we're potentially one of the fastest teams in America. We can literally field an entire starting 5 of 3 point shooters- or we can throw a big kid in LL, and a bigger kid in Doke at you the same time if we want to push you around. Our guards are going to be trapping, and stealing the ball all over the court ....the passing will be tremendous. Wait until they get 10 to 15 games in- the ball is simply going to zip. The depth on this team allows Coach to play a variety of ways, with a variety of lineups, including your guy, Lightfoot. That kid is a natural born brawler- when he hits you, he flattens you out. We haven't had muscle like that in so long...put him in w/ Doke, and we've got a mack truck frontline. Next year, they'll have to issue shoulder pads for other Big 12 frontlines.

@KUSTEVE this team, I think, is the type that has a lot of room for growth and will improve a lot during the year.

Good point about ball movement - to think we haven't been running offense these past two games.

I hope coach runs a couple plays for Carlton to get him going on Friday - pick and roll type stuff. Bill doesn't sound too worried about him - he is better than what he has shown and just needs a few positive plays to get back in a groove.

I think Jaybate has a point with "Not to worry about Bragg. He was destined to suck for half a season, while he figures out the new body he is inhabiting."

Bragg has grown in both height and muscle, I went through that as a runner and I promise you it will totally throw you out of rhythm. Add to that the hype and pressure to compete for a starting spot it is easy to believe he is sped up. Self comment that he is in a funk but is a good player adds to that theory. Of course the toughening box is there to get his mind and body back on the same page. Just have to wonder how long it will take.

My breakout player is Vick. Svi will be great don't get me wrong but after I spent a weekend at a camp with some of the guys I have felt Vick has improved the most.