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Damn I love talking Jayhawks. :heart:

No. How are you feeling about the game?

Lol

I'm @ a drive thru atm. You talk, I'll listen.

@wissox

KU gets off to a fast start. Oregon makes a run and then KU gets pissed and blows them out.

@DoubleDD Exactly like in 2002.

@DoubleDD

Never!to early!

We could even start two.

One Oregon and one for the semifinals!

Let's post two! For Ernie Banks!

@jaybate-1.0 A nod to their coach in that 2002 Ernie Kent?

@DoubleDD I wish but I doubt that will happen. This will be a half court grind it out game.

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Oh yea running and running and running, and KU running.

Drive early, drive often, foul them up early and take them out of the game. I want to see Tyler get a career high in points.

Never too early during March Madness!

Heard some fine lady got BIFM tattooed on her inner lip. :kissing_heart:

@DoubleDD Your wife?

@wissox

And for Ernie Kent!

And Phil Knight!

And Dick Harter!!!

@wissox

LOL no. Mason was talking about on Snap Chat.

@jaybate-1.0 Dick Harter? Name rings a bell.....

What will be most interesting is Bill Self and how tight he is. If he is relaxed, I like our chances. If he has the Michigan game look, then our players will have to overcome it. The Elite Eight has been hard for him - only two wins in eight tries.

Wearing my crimson shaded glasses, my prediction for tonights game is 120-75 good guys.
Taking off my glasses, my prediction for tonights game is 120-75 good guys.

@HawkChamp Mark Few could say it's been hard on him too, and look what he's doing!

KU made the prime time game. Decided before Arizona lost.

KU is a shooting star :smiley:

@HawkChamp Self is encouraging his players to play and not think, and he will support them regardless of what style they are playing in. I think Self is loose as can be.

@wissox

He was Ernie's coach on the Kamikaze Kids Oregon team!!!!!!

Danged Wikipedia has eliminated the list of coaches at schools, so I'm relying on increasingly weak memory on stuff!

@Eric-san

Yea Heard in is Interview KU was going to play their game.

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I hope this Ok @approxinfinity ???

@jaybate-1.0 Kamikaze kids must be before my time. Not saying your old or anything, but....

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Rock Chalk Jayhawk. Red and Blue

I know you think I'm homer. Yet if the players think they're invincible, then shouldn't we fans ???

@DoubleDD players get to do something about it. We are just along for the ride-good or bad.

And it's been good so far this year.

@Bwag

Every team no matter the sport feeds off their fans. Again if our Jayhawks think they are invincible shouldn't we fans ???

OK, this game should have a slaughter rule so it can end and our game begin. They should go to a running clock, no TV timeouts, nothing.

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@wissox

Old as hell and proud of it. Love no longer being driven by the reproductive demons every spring.

Harter was a defensive Basketball guru that came out of the Penn line of great coaches (Chuck Daly, etc.). Harter pioneered swarming, physical bad boy defense. Took it to Oregon in the 1970s and turned Ernie Kent and mates into human buzz saws in treads. Hater left, coached Penn State 5 years, thenassisted hor HCed 6-8 NBA teams in the 1980s., Ernie came back and coached Oregon

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@DoubleDD I tried yelling so they'd hear in KC from down in AR. Not sure sound waves carried that far

@Bwag

You and I my friend. Lets tear up the Game Thread and the Oregon Ducks. :grin:

@Bwag

Heard you loud and clear bro...

@Eric-san

Bold prediction would make Akira Kurasawa proud!!!!

@JayHawkFanToo yeah, I'd had too much to drink!

@Bwag

Early celebration, I like the optimism.

Let me know if I'm posting to many KU related songs. :notes:

@JayHawkFanToo not today/tonight. Ibuprofen and water!

Trying to reset a bicycle accident injury

I haven't watched Oregon at all. Wondering how much the 7 point line was influenced by our being smokin hot in the tournament.

Hoping not at all and we blow the line out

@Bwag said:

I haven't watched Oregon at all. Wondering how much the 7 point line was influenced by our being smokin hot in the tournament.

Hoping not at all and we blow the line out

Vegas keeps the odds to the vest in tournament games. Not sure why ??? Somebody smarter than me will have to explain.

It appears Gonzaga will be the first final 4 team.

Anybody scared of them???

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I did my time but committed no crimes. Rock Chalk.

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Oregon is going to bite the dust.

I wander what our Jayhawks listen toooooo motivate them ???

Zags are proving they can beat an 11 seed

@Bwag

But can they hang with KU ???

@DoubleDD was referring to TV commentary

Hope we get a chance to play them

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OK for you seasoned KU fans. Food for the soul. :kissing_heart:

Wait a minute I'm seasoned too.

@Bwag

Sign me up.

Here comes the BOOM...

Almost game time. :satisfied:

Some pinch me or Kiss me. I'm so excited I'd miss my first 4 shots. Ah who am I kidding I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. Well in less it's a 45 Berretta. :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

@DoubleDD The BIFM rap song.

Will Oregon 's mixing of defensive schemes slow us up?

@Bwag We have the zone buster in JJ so hopefully no.

@Bwag said:

Will Oregon 's mixing of defensive schemes slow us up?

Doubt it. KU plays pretty good against the zone.

@DoubleDD but that could slow us up.

Most are putting this game in 70's vs our 90's roll lately.

@Bwag

Maybe it might effect the final score. Yet I don't think it will affect a KU victory.

Kenny doesn't know what he's talking about

@BeddieKU23 let's hope not

Worried that this a game where Oregon could have a really good offensive game, as they have plodded along the last couple weeks. Need to come out with great defensive energy.

82 - 70 ku victory tonight. BIG 10 champ down. Tonight pac 12. Saturday ACC. Monday...WAC? Whate very gonzaga is. They are insignificant to me still.

You would expect a better analysis on how a team was going to win then it's scorer being taller then Graham and Mason

@BeddieKU23 he has a point. Oregon is really talented.

If the media experts were so good. They would have a perfect bracket.

UM noooooooooooooooo

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@BeddieKU23 he has a point. Oregon is really talented.

No doubt but he ignored Kansas pretty much to say nothing on how Oregon was supposed to win.

At least Charles knew that Oregon has to find a 3rd scorer and keep the game below 80

I'm glad I'm not more worried about this game. I'm very peaceful and serene. For 10 more minutes especially.

They keep talking about or at least Kenny Smith keeps talking about the size differential of the guards for Oregon how that's a big advantage for them - - Well hell we have played against size differential for most of the season with Frank & Devonte seems like we have done just fine. - -thing is are they going to be able to stay with Frank on their defensive end - -goes both ways Smith not more of a KU rooter never has been - -time will tell - - LET'S DO THIS - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@wissox said:

I'm glad I'm not more worried about this game. I'm very peaceful and serene. For 10 more minutes especially.

Worried ??? There is no worried in a game KU plays. :astonished:

KU thrives when the media disrespects them. Keep em coming.

@globaljaybird Hey, what's the adult beverage of choice tonite?

Its funny because other then Dorsey which was the whole basis for his argument, KU matches or is bigger then every player in their lineup

@brooksmd

Redds apple ale. and some Apple Bird dog. I don't like to mix my flavors. :kissing_heart:

@BeddieKU23 Didn't they wonder how KU would handle the twin towers and possible NPOY plus their 3 pt shooting backcourt for the Purdue game?

Our guys will need to play their best defensive game of the year to win.

awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww shnnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaapppppppppppp

Its time men, Lets go Fast Start!!

@DoubleDD Can we change the thread title with something specific to the game now that we've arrived so there's no confusion that this is the official unofficial game thread?

Let's Go Hawks!

I wish they'd call carrying every once in a while.

@wissox they called a carry on Frank Thursday...

@approxinfinity I remember that.

oh jesus. I thought it was a travel first.

yep. LV, time to shine buddy.

Rough start

@Bwag said:

Rough start

But 0-2 only

Their guards are looking quicker than ours.Let's get over the hangover from last game.

Jitters

Good job Lucas. Stabilizing smart move.

Come on box out.

If we don't score it's going to be a long night

LV Clutch!

Kansa S has lead!

Good drive against the zone. cut it up, and drive and kick.

One team came to play. The other didn't...

@BeddieKU23 We're about to heat up.

@BeddieKU23 I wouldn't say that

Well, this is what I was worried about. Our guys look tight and tentative. Reminiscent of last year against Nova

Not the start we were looking for.

Zone has definitely slowed us up.

Need Self to work some coaching magic at this TO

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@BeddieKU23 We're about to heat up.

We better

About as bad of a start as you can have and only down 4...

@HawkChamp You're really pessimistic about this game it appears.

@approxinfinity

By all means change the title name.

I'm irritated Josh picked up 2, but I think we're fine.

Whos worried? Not me. Self is making mods right now...8-0 run forthcoming.

@BeddieKU23 this could get ugly if they don't start doing something

We have started slowly the whole tourney. We'll do better. More worrisome is the 2 fouls on Josh.

I'm out before I make a bad post.

@wissox Why Should I think they will all of a sudden loosen up?

Refs neutered JJ.

That's all right JJ will exact his revenge.

We have started slow but that didn't include josh sitting for 16 minutes

JJ being out has them flustered. Settle down and play your kind of ball guys.

@brooksmd Stay with us. There's no such thing as a bad post.

With JJ foul trouble...just need to get thru the first half tied and JJ sitting on the bench. Fresh JJ and pissed off jj...still will get a double double.

No energy whatsoever, lazy. Wake up boys.

@HawkChamp Because this is how KU has started games all tournament long.

We're Josh's fouls legit?

@HawkChamp OH I don't know, you're right I guess. 90 points worth of wins in the tourney so far make you feel better?

@Blown yes

@Blown His 2nd definitely was.

POY

Good job Svi, way to move your feet!

No effort

There we go

@DoubleDD alright, changed it :smile: thanks. LETS GO!

@BeddieKU23 really?

There it is.

KU hanging tough without JJ.

Think about when JJ gets to play again.

Much better. It all starts with defense

As long as it's close...........Josh sits out the rest of the half?

@Hawk8086 I think well see JJ under 4 min.

@Hawk8086 I think HCBS sits him.

As long as its close we gotta keep JJ on the bench

LeGerald gotta know, its go time. We get good minutes out of him, we're golden.

All those predictions that Vick might go nuclear this game might just be right on.

@approxinfinity Bench has to play well with JJs fouls.

I'm a little annoyed with these announcers

good job Landen! lets go guys, let's take the lead here.

POY dime

ohhhh you nasty Frank!

Our middle is porous

Damnit

Cheap call there

@approxinfinity nasty boy!

We have to get turnovers

wow Josh back.

POY

dirty b trying to draw a phantom foul. good job ref, you done good.

POY

let's get some D! Frank time on O is fine!

POY

Either at some point these guys will stop playing tight or they wont.. up to them

Not playing good defense at all. Got to tighten things up A LOT.

@wissox ditto x3

The new thread title is making me hungry.

Oregon playing great KU not so much, I love it.

@BeddieKU23 have we even run any zone offense?

BIFM's back is gonna break from carrying this team.

Quit leaving the perimeter guys wide open.

Josh to shaky

At least frank is starting to find holes in the d.. Oregon not in foul trouble which helps them

Lets get to the half at least tied.

6-3 foul count which is good even if two are on JJ

@RockChalkinTexas Vick could hustle harder!🤷🏻‍♂️

@HawkChamp we've tried. They are moving well and aggressively on us not giving us confidence to execute

Ducks have no answer for Mason.

They have anyone w/2?

I'd take JJ back out he's not effective and is lucky to not have 3.

JJ needs to drive it instead of trying to pass out.

@Crimsonorblue22 Pritchard with 2

Franks for the Free Points.

LL's baby hook not dropping

Bell is screwing us up, for sure.

Lucas come on

Wide open

DG 0 points, JJ 0 points SVI 3 points lucky to be in it.

Mason with 12, Vick with 7 and everyone else has made a brick house

I don't know if we realize how big the 2nd foul was on JJ. He can't play D since he came back. We are missing his defense. They are popping 15 footers almost uncontested all night. And of course they're making them.

This is Oregon's game. Their tempo, their style their offense. Feels like the Nova game where we lost playing their tempo. Not looking good

Frank's 12 pts and Vick's 7 is why we are in this

We need a stop next time down.

Alright, deep breath, run a play, get a stop, tv timeout, rinse, repeat.

Graham and Jackson are both 0/1. We need to get them into the offense

Lazy ass defense again and getting beat up and down the floor I'm bout done with this. Thank you Mason for playing hard, the rest are a embarrassment

POY

Lol wow

What?!

Lol

Copy paste

We are lucky to be down 5

Need to close this out strong and come out in 2nd half with a new mindset

Oregon playing a perfect game only up five. :kissing_heart:

This is the lazy effort we saw throughout the year. Now is not the time to play bad defense.

lazy asses

Uninspired basketball. This should change at halftime.

@BeddieKU23 We can turn a 5 point deficit into a 5 point lead as quick as you can say Oklahoma, or West Virginia, or Purdue or.....

Will need to ramp up the defense.

@wissox w/o Frank we are 17 behind!

@HawkChamp part of that is Oregon's speed

I'm picking KU in the second half.

LL has to make the bunnies.

@HawkChamp but some bad effort at times too.

Also some good!

@Hawk8086 that's what I have been warning about. Our guys need to dig deep

Believe in Frank and let him lead this team to the F4.

@RockChalkinTexas value the damn ball

Has Devonte made any plays today?? We can't have this

@DoubleDD said:

Oregon playing a perfect game only up five. :kissing_heart:

They've been shooting light out

If LL could make bunnies and we'd rebound we would be 5 or 6.

Anyone who's ready to give up on this nails-tough team with the greatest Kansas guard of my lifetime at the helm IS a chickenhawk!

@approxinfinity PHOF!!

two hands landen.

DG come on

Why did Mason think that was a good idea?

Well we got our work cut out for us.

Meltdown.

We're a 2nd half team.

LOL whatever

lets see what happens in the second half when those Duck threes don't rattle down. LOL

I still have faith.

Played like Chickenhawks that half.

Guys, we're done. Our guys came out with zero passion and B ball is except for Frank and Vick. Oregon came out with energy and purpose while our guys stand around. Sad to end it this way for Frank but he has had no help.

KU has been here before.

DG cant even dribble???

This deficit is nothing compared to what the Jayhawks had to deal with this season.

@DoubleDD my concern is I don't see us doing anything to disrupt their shooting.

There's always hope I guess.

Have to show more fight the next 20 or only place you go is home.

@Texas-Hawk-10 yep. Played tentative and scared. Sad, sad performance. Again, Self has a hard time preparing his teams for the elite eight.

Send doke in

That was about as bad a finish to the half as you could imagine. Down 3 to down 11 in what...2 mins? Stupid banked 3....
They won't be that lucky in the 2nd half.

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@DoubleDD my concern is I don't see us doing anything to disrupt their shooting.

There's always hope I guess.

My friend about 3 to 4 for the Ducks three's were luck of the bounce, an even some 2 shots. Law of averages.

Hoping the character we've shown throughout the year shows up and allows us to turn this around.

I bet it is like a Friday Night Lights moment in the locker room right now.

@Bwag exactly. Wide open shot after wide open shot. The team from the conference season has reared its ugly head for the last time

@DoubleDD hope.

Regression to the mean.

We will know by the first media timeout whether they want it or not

Coach will make the adjustments.

Well it was a good season folks, when your lazy and don't rebound then they hit lucky shots. I'm flat out embarrassed to be a KU Fans. Play the walk ons they maybe will hustle. Good night buckets.

Jackson picking up those two quick fouls really changed the game and made everyone passive.

Next man up if DG doesn't score in the first couple of plays.

@BeddieKU23 but the game last year against Nova proved that you can't get down double digits against a good team and expect to win.

@DoubleDD And JJ can play with the fire that the refs may be getting a little Nike on the side to curtail ...Like Brando in the Godfather "If a lightning bolt should hit him with his 3rd foul 2 min into the 2nd half....." I may not forgive a fix... Altman is still a sheepherder regardless.

Any coach that ever lived> Bill Self in the Elite 8

@kjayhawks yep. Been a good year but our guys just don't want it as bad as Oregon unfortunately

Defense. Defense? Defense? Calling the Defense, where are you?!?

@globaljaybird

JJ and Graham light it up the second half.

@Texas-Hawk-10 just like Perry last year

It will be different once Josh gets into the flow of the game.

Enough passing to Lucas.

@Eric-san This is the NCAA tourney, - -NOT the regular season. - - You get this deep in a tourney these guys just don't let you come waltzing back in the game. We got players right now that can't even make a simple catch of the ball. - -Jacskon a flat ZERO - - Graham a flat ZERO - -defense is crap, everything working against us they shoot three's that bounce all over the place and drop, Bell is eating our A- - - out rebounded by 5 - - they shooting 58% from the three - NOT ONE good thing happening about this game. - -Like hawk champ says I can not believe they didn't bring better focus to the game then this. - -It's one thing when your getting beat and playing well - -but not to show up is a total another. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@kjayhawks

Whoa calm down. Oregon just played their best basketball all year. KU and coach will turn it around.

@dylans also need smart offense

@kjayhawks yeah he needs to do some inner reflection on how to improve in these situations. Vcu and nova all over again.

@autohawk Not much more Frank can do. The rest of the guys need to step up!

The moment has been too big for everyone but mason

If you think KU is finished then you haven't been watching them this year.

Not sure how we come back and win this one by 20 points.

Oregon aren't missing shots or being forced to make dumb plays. These are real athletes we are playing against.

I hope we figure out their defense because if we can't prevent them scoring on ISO's, then we won't be able to stop them on offense.

@dylans Some poor decision making.

No way the ducks can keep that up for a whole nuther half, just like Purdue couldn't. JJ is going to light it up

@betterfireE said:

Not sure how we come back and win this one by 20 points.

Oregon aren't missing shots or being forced to make dumb plays. These are real athletes we are playing against.

I hope we figure out their defense because if we can't prevent them scoring on ISO's, then we won't be able to stop them on offense.

UMMMM KU wins by 20 I'm calling it.

@dylans You know the :poop: :poop: :poop: is gonna ON the 2nd half

What this team needs now is to take a deep breath, reset for the second 20, listen to coach who is telling them EXACTLY what they need to do right now, go out and execute.

That probably means more driving, less entry passes, tighter perimeter D, better rebounding (maybe some zone if they go cold), JJ being more aggressive on the interior (think entering the second game with zero fouls now).

@DoubleDD YA, they sure did. - -Hell I could of scored 20 in the half with the way KU is playing defense. - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@DoubleDD I've watched them lose to Indiana when they couldn't get a stop. I've watched them lose to Tcu and ISU in the same way. This team doesn't care about toughness or defense and it is manifesting itself in a bad way. Right now, they are getting punked

@globaljaybird And that's alotta shit !!!

I gotta go. This is the device I'm streaming the game from.

Don't let your faces melt off when KU pulls their collective head out and begin to roast ducks.

@jayballer54 said:

@DoubleDD YA, they sure did. - -Hell I could of scored 20 in the half with the way KU is playing defense. - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Shit you wouldn't even get to the basket. :smiley:

Bank is open for the ducks today

Relax this game is far from over.

@DoubleDD Shit I wouldn't have to I could make any shot on the floor no one to stop me - - shit, shit lmao - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY - -BUT YOUR RIGHT PROBABLY MORE LIKE 25 LOL

@HawkChamp Well turn the flippin' thing off so ya don't have to complain to us that ya cant stand it ! Bore someone at home.

@HawkChamp

Nice buzzkill

@globaljaybird PHOF!!

This reeks of past elite eight games. Get down double digits, take the lead, then not enough to get the win. Bill just has a hard time in the tournament. It is his kryptonite

Can't understand why we have reverted to entry passes for low block scoring. Not who they are. Has resulted in 4-5 empty possessions.

@jayballer54

Do you realize how many lucky shots Oregon made ??? And no you wouldn't even get one basket.

@HawkChamp You're going to keep beating this drum and at the end tell us all "I told you so?"

@Blown mainly we ain't hittin sht from the three got to try something. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@DoubleDD said:

@jayballer54

Do you realize how many lucky shots Oregon made ??? And no you wouldn't even get one basket.

Not luck when they are open

Took Josh out for 10 minutes w 2 quick stupid fouls

@wissox said:

@HawkChamp You're going to keep beating this drum and at the end tell us all "I told you so?"

Ding ding ding

@approxinfinity Thanks bro-small mind expressing itself

@HawkChamp we're KU-going to win! Don't over think performance and history or Oregon's ability.

@wissox said:

@HawkChamp You're going to keep beating this drum and at the end tell us all "I told you so?"

Jeez I hope not

@HawkChamp Is your theory that if you bet that KU will lose every close game where they struggle in the first half, that eventually you'll be right? Is being right more important than rooting for your team?

@BeddieKU23 Vick was decent. A few times he gave up on D though.

@BeddieKU23 Well the banked 3 and also the one that bounced up in the air were luck........but yes.......there were some wide open shots.

Can't beat dumb luck and long rebounds

@BeddieKU23

Are you kidding me. HOw many times did the ball bounce high of the rim and go in ??? Yea that is skill. No sir that is luck.

@DoubleDD Lmao one thing is for sure this site has plenty of comedians helps pick my spirits up thanks for that gonna score 40 lmao. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY - -oh dam ANOTHER FLUSH LMAO

@approxinfinity Maybe a divorce? I'd rather be right than married??

@Hawk8086 said:

@BeddieKU23 Well the banked 3 and also the one that bounced up in the air were luck........but yes.......there were some wide open shots.

Dorsey is a great shooter, and we played him with little regard for his ability

@jayballer54

Don't wet the bed with dreams.

@truehawk93 Bullshit you make your OWN luck

Everything going ducks way. We will control this second half barring Jackson getting in foul trouble. Gotta switch better. Their 3s are wide open like first 10 min of Purdue

@DoubleDD said:

@BeddieKU23

Are you kidding me. HOw many times did the ball bounce high of the rim and go in ??? Yea that is skill. No sir that is luck.

Again best shooter on the team and got them to go down while we did nothing to stop him from doing so

We made up 14 points in 3 minutes. We have 20 to reverse an 11 point deficit. Childs play. Were taking this game!

@BeddieKU23 said:

Dorsey is a great shooter, and we played him with little regard for his ability

true. I think we'll correct that.

@Blown said:

Can't understand why we have reverted to entry passes for low block scoring. Not who they are. Has resulted in 4-5 empty possessions.

Agreed. Lucas needs to be seen and used as a garbage man. Not our first option on our last possession of the half.

@DoubleDD LMAO - - - see I love your comedy - -gotta love it - -you stick to that sparky you may have a career yet lmao. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@autohawk Oregon threw a big first punch. I don't think they are advancing unfortunately.

We won't give up! If u do, see ya!

@jayballer54

And when KU wins this game I'll give you a "I told you so"

lol "Jayhawks have their largest half-time deficit all season"...

Well good, it's only halftime? Becuase we've had a larger deficit with 3 minutes left and come back!

@BeddieKU23 yep. No defense that first half

@Bwag said:

@Blown said:

Can't understand why we have reverted to entry passes for low block scoring. Not who they are. Has resulted in 4-5 empty possessions.

Agreed. Lucas needs to be seen and used as a garbage man. Not our first option on our last possession of the half.

Trying to get the perimeter opened up. Because for the most part we are not doing enough to make it difficult for them

@truehawk93 duck or luck?

@tis4tim you beat me to it!

@tis4tim I'd rather argue Ima wake up Mama !! OL

Saved our ammo for second half

So what are they 30% shooting right now? Ducks prob 55% or so?

Josh better take over this half because his performance so far is matching another OAD..

Josh has got to play until he picks up 4 fouls.......can't be too passive.

@Bwag No unbabashed JJ is why...If the NIKE refs set him down long were screwed.

@BeddieKU23

With a new half the shackles come off JJ.

@approxinfinity great minds...yada yada. Lets win this!

Let's not all start fighting now

We will see the difference between can, will, and did now.

BIFM can't do it all. Need some one to step up big time.

Goose eggs. Not a good look for JJ andnDG

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I hate the shoulder cutout fashion

that's a bs foul. come on dude.

Can't get a rebound

Damn refs. That's weak

Play on

Have to be kidding

So some think Oregon is going to continue to shoot 60% from 3 ???

???

Alright JJ, time to open the 3rd eye and work this game over.

Josh Smart

This game so far looks like the vcu loss.

Good job Svi! Flying!

Now 9

@kjayhawks shut your friggin pie hole dude! seriously. I mean that in the nicest way.

@kjayhawks leave

Josh gonna have to be up under his grill

I'm not saying leave, just expect ridicule if you don't give our guys a chance.

Not making shots tonight. Gonna have to win it with disruption.

How about we grab the ball?!

Just no effort

Not rebounding either lol

Ll in the way

@approxinfinity it doesn't look like the Purdue game!

We need to attack the interior.

Gotta heat up

Its over

Alright fine, it looks more like VCU than Purdue. Just give it a chance.

These refs are worse than the Nova game last year. Completely taken KU out of their game tonight.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said:

These refs are worse than the Nova game last year. Completely taken KU out of their game tonight.

It ain't the refs please

Plenty of time

Lost the first 4 min.

Don't force those shots. Pass or jump stop!

Kansas is better than this. Come on fellas

The confidence of Oregon feels like our confidence in the Purdue game. We need to get under Bell's skin. Also, reverse layups maybe. Attacking front side he's swatting our sh-t

We've lost 2 rebounds because 2 of our players were fighting each other for it. We're just discombobulated. Need to get our heads back in it.

Ouch, this is not good. They are playing lights out and graham and JJ are no shows. Crap

Oregons confidence will fade if we make a run

@DanR nope. We have a bigger hole and can't stop them. This is the problem with Bill's teams other than the 08 team - they don't deliver the first punch. Time is running out. Sad end for Frank who has worked so hard.

@BeddieKU23 They're missing all kinds of calls tonight that have made KU timid tonight. Ticky tack BS calls on us and not calling it tye same on them. That Brooks play damn well should've been a flagrant because that was not a basketball play.

I'm speechless as to how much harder Oregon goes after the rebounds we just don't care.

@approxinfinity we are attacking him incorrectly. I don't expect any change of strategy

Why are we leaving them wide open?

Jesus h Christ. If you are calling this game a loss already please don't post anymore.

@DanR That's da "trashy women" look that meth-sourrians like... Little old for my taste.

@kjayhawks seriously? thugs?

@HawkChamp whatever

@Texas-Hawk-10 said:

@BeddieKU23 They're missing all kinds of calls tonight that have made KU timid tonight. Ticky tack BS calls on us and not calling it tye same on them. That Brooks play damn well should've been a flagrant because that was not a basketball play.

None of it matters we have 37 points with 15 minutes to go. Blame whoever you want it doesn't matter

I've had to host a birthday dinner for my daughter in Dallas - WTF is going on here??????

good job Coleby that's alright.

Bell controls paint. Stay out.

@DCHawker Go back to your party!

@wissox lol

@wissox Maybe I should - it is over. is this party over? Not scoring and giving up a lot of points?

Warm the bus

Bill hasta burn some TO's

@DCHawker elite 8

Let's go DEFENSE!

@approxinfinity I'm sorry I'm just so embarrassed why do we not want to win? You have to play hard,not stand.

How do we give up 60% FG for the game???

@BeddieKU23 When it changes your style of play, it's a big f-ing impact.

Bell had a mistake called-finally

@DCHawker We were in it just before halftime. Then we gave up a two for one, and they've just blitzed us this half. Jackson got two fouls in the first minute of the game, sat most of the half. They're making tons of shots. we're not obviously

@kjayhawks it's alright buddy! LETS WIN THIS DAMN THING! SAY IT WITH ME NOW. BEE EYE EFF EM!

Banked 3s, offensive rebounds directly back to them, luck all their way.

Nice free throw

Brick Jackson

So how do you think we'll do next season? Smily face

That's 2 d stops in a row and 2 scores by FM

Two on five

4 empty possessions by them in a row come on, sloppy O lets go!

Ball on floor and we watch it.

Look on Lucas face not good

Good job Landen. Alright, Where's 13 on the intensity dial? I know its on that dial!

Lucas had to have that because he can't make 2 free throws

JJ should not have passed it there to FM

LL shoulda decked that dude-don't save a foul this late in the game.

Only 12 minutes left.

@autohawk That's 4 times easier than WV comeback.

@Eric-san Take 2 the rack

Nothing going our way. We are gonna go on a run

Wasted opportunity after wasted opportunity. Call me stupid, but this is not the recipe for winning a game. Are we ever going to get back to the final four?

In the few minutes I've watched, they are definitely winning the 50-50 balls at HCBS would say. Seems they want it more???? BIFM has over half our points??? Is anyone else showing up??? Zero for JJ? LL looks like he is being dominated by Bell???

So who's giving up ?

Not me. :kissing_closed_eyes:

@HawkChamp yeah in about 30 minutes.

@HawkChamp you should quit watching

Not me Down 14 under 3. I'm never giving up.

They are over 50% from 3 still.

This can't be JJ, LL and Frank's last game. Come on guys.

@approxinfinity but empty possessions are not helping

We seem to have sand in our boots.

I'll start worrying if we have to start fouling to extend the game.

@BeddieKU23 you were right.

@autohawk Missing 3 of last 4 FTs not helping...

Thats 5 of 6 empty possessions for Oregon.

Jesus, someones gotta help if Landen hedges to half court.

They gave up

I'm just gonna laugh, we don't care. We are lazy.

Don't need to force them into mistakes on d, they're cooling down, just stay locked in and make some buckets.

daughhhhhhhh Devonte's shot not falling

This is a butt clinched kind of loss. :disappointed:

Missing open shots. Ouch

Jesus...

@KirkIsMyHinrich I've turned on black metal.

@Blown said:

Missing open shots. Ouch

Butt firmly clinched.

Graham is falling apart.

Dude pushed Graham in the back

Thanks Graham

They look like they did way more studying. Backing off Graham on the floater was smart.

@BeddieKU23

At least he will be back I guess?

Loss of confidence

Coleby got up for that.

Gotta make those if KU wants to make a comeback...

36% from the field and 23% from three. The classic recipe.

DG needs to wake up.

Better Devonte.

1 on 3

See Devonte, no saran wrap. let's go!

One more stop.

IT's not like Oregon is even playing great this half. I could live with that.

@approxinfinity ugh.

It's still doable, but I don't think we can hold them on 59 all night

Sit Devonte down. Put Vick in!

Thanks Devonte keep bricking

Yeah let's throw the ball into Colbey lol

@BeddieKU23 he's lost his mind.

Like, KU has got stops this half, just can't friggin score.

What makes us think that passing into post in traffic is our solution?

Obviously Bragg's time at KU is done! Good Bragg's energy could help but Self has lost trust.

@BShark said:

Like, KU has got stops this half, just can't friggin score.

And down a ton still

@BShark exactly. If this is it, standing at the pearly gates, GIVE FM THE BALL!

@BigBad said:

Obviously Bragg's time at KU is done! Good Bragg's energy could help but Self has lost trust.

Yupp maybe he gets into mop up sadness time

I just can't get over the two fouls on JJ to open the game. Totally changed the outcome right from the start. I might be wrong, but it really sucked.

Missed a lot of opportunities they usually convert on.

This team makes you feel alive that's for sure

@BigBad yeah surprised no Bragg, good call.

@Bwag Been missing all the outside shots

@BeddieKU23 said:

@BigBad said:

Obviously Bragg's time at KU is done! Good Bragg's energy could help but Self has lost trust.

Yupp maybe he gets into mop up sadness time

Whoa KU is going to win.

Tonight should be all the motivation Graham needs to return next year.

@BigBad Yeah, he's gone ...

Too many missed open shots. Unfortunately, left it all out there on Thursday. Feel bad for Frank

Graham's spastic head fakes have done NOTHING against Oregon's size.

Our guards are down on confidence.

We're passing up open shots to go in closer and then shooting tougher shots.

Passing off to others. And especially to the bigs when we shouldnt

@BeddieKU23 Devonte can't hit anything tonight. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@Texas-Hawk-10 yep. He has not been good at all

7 points total between JJ and DG....

Missouri fans already talking shit, fantastic.

@BShark our fans are!

@approxinfinity That's what the POY is for

@DCHawker said:

7 points total between JJ and DG....

Just can't win a game with this from them against a good team.

Time to drive and get fouls and stop clock

Who wins Oregons player of the game JJ or DG?

@wissox said:

I just can't get over the two fouls on JJ to open the game. Totally changed the outcome right from the start. I might be wrong, but it really sucked.

Exactly, and one of those a ticky tack call they haven't been calling at any other point.

And all the damn travels the refs missed in the first half on Oregon.

Defense Defense

Stop and a bucket.

Dude is pushing frank off with his opposite arm

@kjayhawks Cry us a river ...you found your niche in this blog...

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10 now

@BShark stop

@approxinfinity Been doin it all night. Bell has gotten away with homicide in the paint...

@globaljaybird

Apparently the refs just don't feel like callin it sad to say!

Dorsey can get hit by a bus

Hitting timely 3 and we are not.

Going reverse Josh! Nice!

@BeddieKU23

KU should have landed him lol.

@Blown

Yeah that was a nice shot.

@approxinfinity I noticed that too. we are getting some calls

That's right.. so many empty possessions by Oregon. We figured em out, now let's draw blood on the other end!

Defense

Someone's hitting a 3

E very time we make a score Oregon comes back and hits huge shot - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Mason was all over Dorsey on that three too. Just can't defend that.

Not shooting in rythym

@Texas-Hawk-10 NIKE refs=NICE payoffs

@approxinfinity said:

That's right.. so many empty possessions by Oregon. We figured em out, now let's draw blood on the other end!

Yeah defense is not really the problem agree.

Needed that shot to go.

Now it's over brick city and no shots from mason

Refs have nothing to with guys missing wide open 3

@BShark he took his hand down at the last

Quit shooting 3s and drive the damn ball!

Prediction....Get it down to about 5-7 but run out of gas..

Ton of guys holding their shorts.

KU 0-9 from three this half btw

Refs are not the problem in this game. We've been whistled only 9 times, them 13. We've taken way more FT's, which are relatively keeping us in the game right now.

Can we get a final push?

I just don't see Oregon crumbling though

Should have started driving for fouls 3 minutes ago

KU about to start hitting shots. They won't miss.

Really disappointed that Devonte's shots aren't going in. Unfortunately we can't afford 1 and done possessions on bricks from Devonte at this point. Would like to see Vick get some run.

Feels like the chance for a comeback is slipping away.

@BShark said:

KU 0-9 from three this half btw

That will win a lot of games

22% from 3 - ain't going to get it done against a good team....

How does the basket get a lid on it?

Self HATED depending on the 3 when we lost to VCU. This loss could lead to guys shooting a 3 and then going to the bench. LOL

@autohawk

Team is just playing tight. Also a bit tired at this pt.

@BeddieKU23 don't know if they have tightened up on Frank or what? - Devonte picked a hell of a night to have a crap night shooting the ball. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@autohawk other than Devonte's 0-6 our starters arent shooting that badly.

@BShark said:

KU 0-9 from three this half btw

OUCH

Not shooting with confidence

Players passing off (other than DG's last one) to others to take the shot

Time is running out. Need to drive it to get fouls.

@DCHawker yep. Another championship caliber team that can't get out of the regional.

@BShark Dorsey is a bad boy. Whiners here think he's another TCU flunky that no one has balls enough to guard. The effin kid is great....How many couldn'thang with JJ this year? We may have just met our flippin match. Still my kids, wife & dog will all love me tomorrow & ya'll can have all this cry babie shit you can handle. GN outta here.

Mason 4 points this half....

They are shooting 53% from the field, 48% from 3 and out rebounding and out blocking us...

Reminiscent of selden going 1 fer last year

@wissox It's not the number of calls, it's the ones they've missed. Oregon walking all over the place in the first half, Brooks not getting teed up for his shove on Jackson. It's the shit they haven't called that's been a big difference.

@globaljaybird

Dorsey is fantastic. I was disappointed when KU cooled on him in recruiting.

Under 10 if we stop

Down by 9!

@approxinfinity 0 for 9 3s

aaaaand Oregon lay-up

Let's hustle on d with ten minutes to go, that's a winning formula.

Let's start now

I'm going say KU doesn't miss another shot.

Brooks took 3 steps there. That's tye bullshit calls that have impacted the game because of how many points they've gotten off of those missed calls.

Frank is not being aggressive enough on offense

@Bwag said:

Let's start now

Start what exactly???

Devonte Graham 0-6 0-5 from 3

@BigBad said:

Devonte Graham 0-6 0-5 from 3

NBA PRO ALL DAY

@Blown how bout some help

Hard to beat a team that can't miss and you go 0 for 9 from 3

Can't believe the negativity. Sure, we're getting our a.... handed to us, but some of you, well I just should shut my mouth. I know we're disappointed, but goodness. I'm kind of surprised.

@DCHawker exactly. People got mad at me, but you could tell how the game was going to end at the start. Oregon was the aggressor. Another great team with no final four. So frustrating.

Help didn't show up
Today unfortunately

We played better when I was drinking too much whiskey

Graham, where'd you go? Bad time to have your worst game of the year

@Blown wE JUST GOT TO GET A STOP

@HawkChamp why are you watching?

Six

@DanR said:

@HawkChamp why are you watching?

Turn it off now.

It's doable - we've gotten stops - just need to make shots!!!

Down 6! Sasha in the crowd! He likes it!

down 6

Do we have energy?!!!!!!!!!!

dig deep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Biggest defensive play coming up

I justwant to see some fight.

Svi, please bail us out this game!

Dorsey can get hit by 2 busses

That offensive rebound kills

Rough

@BeddieKU23

Kid is a stone cold killer.

I'm sad

Nice block on frank by Jj

Come on the best 3 minutes of your life here.

@BShark because we let him have another opportunity. That is on us, not him

@approxinfinity DOWN 11 - -

Thanks frank for all you did you will be forever missed

Is over the back a fantastic play? STFU Reggie.

KU beat themselves.

Been a magical season. The long offseason starts. Lots of handwringing awaits.

Was a good year. But it's over now.

Another disappointing end. Self proves once again it takes a lot of things to go right for him to win in March. I love final fours and we hardly ever get there

Where was that drive and kick all game?

They imposed their will.

Oregon was the better team tonight.

Graham and Jackson were no shows.

The game was over early

Just not KU's night. Put a fork in her.

This was a championship caliber team folks. They took us on a wonderful ride. Twice in my lifetime it's ended on a win. Shots weren't falling and that was it tonight.

a number 1 seed, pretty much home games until final four, an upperclassmen team with a stud freshman, and still can't get it done. Not sure what else you can ask for really.

@wissox Welp - -now comes the dreaded summer. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

It's alright Landen.

Oregon a team of destiny.

Going home boys. Well at least they don't have far to go.

See y'all next year

Damn it I hate being right all too often... And that's why you don't rely on words like "special" and expect a few minutes of good play to win games. Oh. And from now on. Self is on the bench for E8 games. Sorry Bill. You're terrific. But Townsend or someone else is gonna have to be the head guy for the E8

@approxinfinity

They guarded that well.

@betterfireE just like Nova. Bill needs to swallow some pride and learn what he needs to do differently. The fan base isn't happy with sweet sixteens. Come on guys

That's what happens when you show up for 10 minutes.

Fun year

Graham built his entire family a brick house

Struggling to understand how Oregon can barely beat Michigan and then dominate us in KC?? I guess 5-25 from 3 will do it...

@BeddieKU23 yep. Most didn't realize it. It was exactly like last year.

Sadly UNC or UK will win this.

@HawkChamp said:

@betterfireE just like Nova. Bill needs to swallow some pride and learn what he needs to do differently. The fan base isn't happy with sweet sixteens. Come on guys

BLAHHHHH

Can't blame bill self

This is not on Self, he did not miss those 3s. He did not cause JJ's 2 fouls which made him ineffective for half a game.

Oh well. Agreed, fun season. Will miss Frank and Landen.

@approxinfinity said:

Oh well. Agreed, fun season. Will miss Frank and Landen.

The entire starting 5 is gone

@Blown KU just has a hard time winning the big one.

Even wide open Frank 3 can't fall

Thank you Jayhawks for a great season.

@Eric-san coaching?

@BeddieKU23 Svi and Graham are definite?

@cragarhawk

Don't pat yourself on the back. There is only one National champion.

@DoubleDD nope. We beat ourselves

63 teams go home sad. I had a wonderful time watching the Jayhawks this year. I hope to see DG and Svi back next year!

@approxinfinity said:

@BeddieKU23 Svi and Graham are definite?

No but I wouldn't plan on it

I'm betting Graham comes back next year. I'll be happy to see him in a KU uniform again.

And I'll miss JJ too. Damn.

@HawkChamp said:

@DoubleDD nope. We beat ourselves

I disagree the shots just didn't fall.

@cragarhawk as crazy as that sounds, you could be on to something

@DanR with a terrible ending. But we won the conference right? That's something

Blame this on self and you are a dumb a$$

@DoubleDD guess you neglected to read the part that said I don't like being right about it. Gotta play more than 10 min in the tournament. Plain and simple. It was a tendency that scared me more than any other deficiencies this team may have had

Damn.

@Eric-san the team came out flat

This had the feel from the get go that their defense approach had us out of synch. We never played our game except for Mason in the first half

I hope So Carolina wins it all. You all take care and take good care of those close to you. Life is too hard whenyou don't have someone to cry with.

It hurts, but you have to come to play. No doubt we were outcoached, and out played. It took our team 30 minutes to figure out what to do, and we couldn't hit a shot to save our lives. Oregon knew exactly what to do to attack us. I feel like Joe Dooley could've helped a ton if he was on the bench in this game. great season, though. I'm going to miss our seniors, and I hope Devonte comes back to lead this team next year.

Wow, 3 sh--heads in postgame interviews. I guess as the coach goes, so goes the team.

Graham shoots his average and none of your points are relevant

@Blown That's who the experts on here usually blame it on. HCBS chokes or he got out coached or whatever.

@Bwag why can't we emulate that? Or figure out how to score effectively against it? Instead we shrivel up

@cragarhawk said:

@DoubleDD guess you neglected to read the part that said I don't like being right about it. Gotta play more than 10 min in the tournament. Plain and simple. It was a tendency that scared me more than any other deficiencies this team may have had

Yep You were right all season. You're a fucking gensis. sorry @approxinfinity. I won't post for awhile I'll punish myself.

lost 3 rebounds due to poor communication, thats not flat. That's letting emotion get the best of you.

F Oregon! No damn class just like their punk ass coach.

@KUSTEVE this was a repeat of last year. We lost the same way. Did Bill watch the tape?

Having ZERO post presence was this teams undoing.

Self will never go 4 out 1 in again.

More than anything though: they hit shots under pressure

Damm. I wasn't ready for this. I was sure we were a final four team this year. Heart breaker, really.

I was seeing it early first half already. Self sitting on the bench biting his nails... Tense ya know. Hate it but I think he was tight again and the guys were too. Not alot of other explanation for missing so many shots. Way below our season average

@DoubleDD It's cragar's favorite moment, where he gets to be smartest guy in the room. He feels like he won.

@kjayhawks Got outplayed just accept it & move gracefully & respectfully on to the remainder of life. Surely this loss by a mythical idol will not define anyone's life? If so .....??

@RockChalkinTexas Join us for Royals chat when the season starts. Don't disappear on us cause we luv ya.

Not saying Oregon is the better team because they are not, but they played a better game and won, could be as simple as that. We are not entitled to the final four.

@globaljaybird I'm heartbroken.

@Bwag said:

More than anything though: they hit shots under pressure

50%

44% from 3

@BigBad Udoka would have made a huge impact. We have been killed with injuries at inappropriate times. I am so glad I got to watch FM for all four years. He just couldn't do it by himself.

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@HawkChamp Yeah youre so effin smart you told us all so...Shoulda listened to you all along. Youre almost a genius ....but not quite.

@Blown Hey, we made our FTs.

@KUSTEVE oh good. Another guy with a reading disability. Come over anytime. I'm happy to help with that if needed. As a fellow fan. Nothing but love for all my KU brethren

I'm just disappointed to lose in our own back yard. To be honest they wanted more than we did. They beat us in every single stat line some with ease. Bill Self never got this team to come out ready to play really all year. We lived bye the 3 all year and we definitely died bye it. Sad to see Frank go, even sadder his teammates didn't​ care enough to hustle in the first have.

@jaybate-1.0 called this. Send em jacked game 1 and end up flat game 2. We've seen a lot of Jayhawk teams lose on cold shooting nights.

@cragarhawk said:

@KUSTEVE oh good. Another guy with a reading disability. Come over anytime. I'm happy to help with that if needed. As a fellow fan. Nothing but love for all my KU brethren

Yep you keep predicting KU losses

@approxinfinity Ya I think your right - - - your not going to win very many games shooting 5-25 fro 3pt range, pretty disappointing. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

DG airballing that shot right in front of the basket represents KU's mindset the whole game.

@Crimsonorblue22 said:

Can't blame bill self

Yeah, but you know the so-called experts on here will.

@RockChalkinTexas I was thinking about Udoka too, when their classless painteater was having his way with us inside.

Heartbreaking loss. This stings to be sure. I just hope that Frank gets NPOY and that Josh gets picked in the top 3 of the draft.

I bet if you asked the players, they would take sole responsibility for the loss, and the last person they would blame is Self.

Frank and Graham shoot their avg we have 15 points.

Only really inexplicable thing I saw was the going inside to landen several times early. Made zero sense

@BigBad said:

Having ZERO post presence was this teams undoing.

Self will never go 4 out 1 in again.

The key is to be able to go between those styles based on personnel and talent.

FM still ridiculous though. Gonna suck without him next year. Hope he gets his due on the national honors

@Eric-san Your right you only have one winner - - the other 63 teams end their season on a loss. - -The one I really feel sorry for is Frank -where would we of been with out him in the 1st half. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Clark Kellogg, screw you. "It's very simple, the best team won"

@HawkChamp said:

@betterfireE just like Nova. Bill needs to swallow some pride and learn what he needs to do differently. The fan base isn't happy with sweet sixteens. Come on guys

Alright expert, please tell us what HCBS needs to learn. Maybe you can email him and give him your expert analysis of why he fails.

I'm really more sad that I won't get to watch FM and JJ, than losing in the E8 to be honest.

Oh well. I give up on being angry. Just sad.

Oregon played good defense on us. Thats why they won. We spent so much energy on defense in the second half without figuring out how to perform on the offensive front.

I miss having a shot-blocking big.

They look like a team that will win a championship.

Too much futzing around by KU. This loss wasn't as bad as the VCU loss because aside from seeding, we weren't THAT full of hubris.

That Jackson tip to the Oregon player at the end was when the game ended. Really wish Jackson had showed up tonight. The truth is he and Graham needed to be their absolute best tonight.

@Bwag said:

@BigBad said:

Having ZERO post presence was this teams undoing.

Self will never go 4 out 1 in again.

The key is to be able to go between those styles based on personnel and talent.

And injuries!

@kjayhawks but as much as anything, they hit shots.

Man heavy heart. :cry:

Don't respond @cragarhawk

Seriously dude.

@brooksmd it all goes back to preparation during the season. As you recall, I said that this team is soft and did not have a defensive mentality like what we saw against Nova and Oregon. Dont recruit small guards but get bigger ones that have girth. I love Frank and Devonte, but it made it tougher. Mario Chalmers/Russell Robinson types.

5-25 from 3 was a killer. Make at least 5 more of those, and you change momentum and possible outcome. Just not in the cards tonight, and OR played at their peak for about 35 minutes.

Two huge swings - at the end of the first half and not snaring the defensive rebound with a minute and a half to go when we had a chance to cut it to 5 or 4 and they hit a 3 to push it back to 9.

But, what is it about us that we seem to have all too many games like this - where we can't make anything???? Going back to the Ariz game in 97 and the Syracuse game, among many others. Where otherwise good players just come up completely empty - Ellis last year and DG this year???

Is it something in the water??? I'm at a loss...

@approxinfinity You'll feel better the next time your boy wins a game, your daughter brings home an "A", or your wife winks & makes you smile. Tomorrow is just a new day in the off season. And we're all still friends when it counts. Some never accept those things but that's what makes it all worth while.
ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK!

@betterfireE good commentary. However, can't underestimate 2 fouls on JJ early

@HawkChamp lol, you're suggesting recruiting someone other than Frank, someone who is bigger. Please man, please.

@HawkChamp said:

@brooksmd it all goes back to preparation during the season. As you recall, I said that this team is soft and did not have a defensive mentality like what we saw against Nova and Oregon. Dont recruit small guards but get bigger ones that have girth. I love Frank and Devonte, but it made it tougher. Mario Chalmers/Russell Robinson types.

Are you kidding me ??? Mason is the toughest guard we have ever had. KU lost this game because the shots didn't fall. Plain and simple.

What did everyone say when Udoka went down with the injury? That the E8 or F4 was their ceiling. Having him throughout the season would have been huge. Just perspective.

This team went 31-5

They were good

Don't kid yourselves

I fn HaTe waiting six months to watch Kansas come out of that northwest tunnel.

We are blessed to follow such a wonderful program

I love it so much that it hurts so bad.

@BigBad Loss of Udoka hurt.

This is the first time I ever remember not looking forward to next basketball season.

For anyone that thinks this game was a Bill Self loss, you need to rethink it a bit.

This isn't Stanford or Villanova.

This loss was about a terrific turnaround after half time on the defensive end, but our inability to execute offensively.

I was continually amazed at the quality of shots and looks we had in the second half. The game was right there for the taking.

There were many times over the years when the "failure to execute" was incorrectly blamed. This isn't one of them.

Still Self's best coaching job.

@BigBad is right. Our thin post presence was the undoing tonight. We had no real option there.

Lots of things went wrong tonight. One of them was not Bill Self. He was calm and cool. And his team came out fired up after half, and everything went right except the ball going in the hoop.

Again, this is much, much different than some of the NCAA tourney losses we've seen.

Great season.

@approxinfinity Me too. - -now the depression phase will sit in for about a week. Then struggle through the summe r- fricken hate summer. - -I just don't know who will be back I can't even begin to guess. - -I know who needs to come back, doesn't mean it will happen. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@HighEliteMajor yep.

@HighEliteMajor :100:

We get to watch DG and co in the summer in Italy!

@HighEliteMajor great only ends in ship !

@HighEliteMajor

Thank you for some sanity. :clap:

The shots just didn't fall. Period.

@HighEliteMajor Whats your thought about not seeing Vick in lieu of DG at all in 2nd half? I was a little surprised we didn't see more Vick personally. Maybe attitude assessment on the bench, DG seemed more composed? Needed the 2 PGs?

@HighEliteMajor agree, but instead of waiting till after half to get them fired up when we have a deficit-why not have the guys ready at tip?

@DoubleDD I know about Frank - please. We could have used more length against Oregon.

Defense is king in the tournament, IMO, which is part of a larger category of energy. Bell had it. Dorsey had it. Brooks had it. Couple that with their length and defensive mindset and they couldnt be stopped.

I want a long, defensive team like Syracuse in 2013 or Kentucky in 2014/2015.

Well they go to Italy this summer, just really confused who will be going Devonte REALLY needs to come back -- -I'm thinking SVI will come back, just not a good night. - - -ROCK CHALK AL DAY LONG BABY

You guys complaining about not having doka know Oregon's 7 footer was hurt a few weeks back right? On to next year thanks everyone for the fun discussing of things. Wish it ended better.

@globaljaybird thanks buddy. you're right :smile:

@HawkChamp said:

@DoubleDD I know about Frank - please. We could have used more length against Oregon.

Defense is king in the tournament, IMO, which is part of a larger category of energy. Bell had it. Dorsey had it. Brooks had it. Couple that with their length and defensive mindset and they couldnt be stopped.

I want a long, defensive team like Syracuse in 2013 or Kentucky in 2014/2015.

Well let me know when KU has a team to your liking. This team was special. If the shot fall KU is in the Final 4.

About time to dump the direct TV

Give me time to figure TV out without cable/satellite for next bball season.

@BigBad We should have that presence next year, will have that post presence - - with Udoka dam is the season really over - -feels like a nightmare -good season but came up short. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Self interviewed now.

@DoubleDD if they were special, they would be going to Pheonix but they arent. Really tough defensive teams make our guys uncomfortable and have for years. We need to get guys of that caliber defensively and toughness wise to match up better and make other teams uncomfortable.

@HawkChamp said:

@DoubleDD if they were special, they would be going to Pheonix but they arent. Really tough defensive teams make our guys uncomfortable and have for years. We need to get guys of that caliber defensively and toughness wise to match up better and make other teams uncomfortable.

Well it seems you're an expert. Call Coach and see if you can get a job.

Self's comments:

Matchup problems.
JJ's fouls.
Shot selection bad.
Got sped up.
Didn't execute.
But we fought. Put ourselves in position.
Ball didn't bounce our way.
But that was due to them. They were really good.

FM and Landen have been great ambassadors for us. But this will not define them.

Jordan Bell had a lot to do with it. Tyler Dorsey. Dillon Brooks. We tried to do it the best we know how. We just didn't respond well today.

Bill: didn't make shots. They hit everything. Got all the bounces their way.. That's about it.

@Blown

At least somebody gets it.

@DoubleDD I like playing but maybe Ill get into coaching.

It was a respectable season and the Hawks were a lot of fun to watch, but that was a tough ending. I'm sad for sure but the guys that had bad games tonight feel a lot worse. At least I don't sense that Bill puckered as much as we didn't play well and Oregon did. I also don't believe we got beat by an inferior team. Oregon is good - good enough to cut down the nets, so I'm gonna let it go while hoping Donna Altwoman stubs his pinky toes in the dark every time he gets up to take a leak in the middle of the night.

You know another thing was, we really didn't really get out and run in transition very much tonight either, and they went down and held the ball and held the ball and held the ball and then when they did miss fricken Bell always seemed to get the rebound. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@HawkChamp

Knock yourself out. You seem to have all the answers.

@HawkChamp NY will let you move dude-unless Trump stops ya?

@HighEliteMajor said:

For anyone that thinks this game was a Bill Self loss, you need to rethink it a bit.

This isn't Stanford or Villanova.

This loss was about a terrific turnaround after half time on the defensive end, but our inability to execute offensively.

I was continually amazed at the quality of shots and looks we had in the second half. The game was right there for the taking.

There were many times over the years when the "failure to execute" was incorrectly blamed. This isn't one of them.

Still Self's best coaching job.

@BigBad is right. Our thin post presence was the undoing tonight. We had no real option there.

Lots of things went wrong tonight. One of them was not Bill Self. He was calm and cool. And his team came out fired up after half, and everything went right except the ball going in the hoop.

Again, this is much, much different than some of the NCAA tourney losses we've seen.

Great season.

I agree it isn't Stanford - although I might disagree a bit that there isn't at least some similarity to Villanova - namely that we just couldn't score - and that a key player just came up empty at a critical time.

While I also agree that Self did a good job with this team - adapting to the personnel rather than rigidly adhering to his system when he clearly didn't have the right personnel to execute it, there is something going on that I can't pinpoint. At the end of the day, the guy at the top has to be accountable for coming up short of expectations in the tournament. I think we've only finished above our expected result based on seed once during the Self era - in 2012.

There is at least some disconnect between regular season and postseason results. There is just too long a track record now to conclude otherwise. 13th straight conference title, 31 wins, probable NPOY - lots to be thankful for. But falling short of the FF yet again - as a number 1 seed - after dominating the first 3 games - in KC. Extraordinarily disappointing...

I want Roy or Cal to beat Dana Altman and his guys badly.

Then Frank Martin (#BIFM2!) can finish off the winner.

@approxinfinity said:

I want Roy or Cal to beat Dana Altman and his guys badly.

Then Frank Martin (#BIFM2!) can finish off the winner.

I would be cool with that.

The most interesting thing to me about this loss was the matchup zone that gave us fits. A typical Bill Self high low offense with a solid 4 kills that zone. Short corner shots, high low passes, etc. We've become a pick and roll, spread O this season and its great when the shots are falling and it's worked great with the personnel. However it was a bad mismatch with the matchup zone when 3s aren't falling.

@BigBad Thats why I want Bill to have long, defensive teams and mix it up. Its worked well for Jay Wright and Dana Altman.

@approxinfinity said:

I want Roy or Cal to beat Dana Altman and his guys badly.

Then Frank Martin (#BIFM2!) can finish off the winner.

I would rather have another program win it.

I don't want blue bloods adding to their NC totals while we don't.

Probably should just call coach at the beginning of the season and let him know the team is special by that logic. Don't worry about tweaking anything or adjusting or trying to get better... They're special come on. Doesn't work that way. Bill adjusted alot of things to make them as good as they were. The goal is to get better by a small percentage everyday in order to get alot better by the end of the season. For the most part that happened. But we quite honestly played December or January defense tonight in late March for a half. And played tight and hurried on offense for an entire game. Some ppl feel like that is a pattern. Those that don't.. that's your choice. What I see or say simply doesn't require your agreement. Hope we do better next time. The end

@Blown where was our energy and desire in the first half(except Mason)?

@HawkChamp said:

@BigBad Thats why I want Bill to have long, defensive teams and mix it up. Its worked well for Jay Wright and Dana Altman.

I wouldn't trade Mason or Graham for anybody. I could say some more things but I won't as I'm already on thin ice.

@HawkChamp said:

@BigBad Thats why I want Bill to have long, defensive teams and mix it up. Its worked well for Jay Wright and Dana Altman.

Bragg gets his head out of his as and Azibuke stays healthy and we could have mixed it up all year

@KUSTEVE Ya, he's well known like that. Leopards never change their spots...

@cragarhawk Fire him, he can afford a manicure...

@BigBad it's crazy and I would've never bet on it. But Bragg was so lackluster this year. I nearly forgot about the idea I had that he would be a huge part of this teams success. He made himself nearly forgettable. Crazy

@DoubleDD Dont get me wrong - I love Frank and Devonte but added length would really help them. Think about how difficult Kentucky in 2015 was. That is what I want to see.

I don't care who you are ??? If this KU loss doesn't hit your heart, then maybe you should look in the mirror.

Just maybe you isn't the KU fan you think you are.

I love Lucas, but KU's post issues finally caught up with the team tonight.

@Texas-Hawk-10 You get a pass ?? I got an edit ..... It's all goodTex...no prob

@globaljaybird don't think you have a fire a guy to point a deficiency. I mean my wife hates the fact i don't do dishes very often. But I don't think she's divorcing me over it. And ya. I'm trying to do that for her more often. Growth

Had 4 RB's by our bigs.

Bragg didn't see the floor. But we were seeing extreme pressure inside and Bragg doesn't finish through contact.

LL ended up with 9 points but only 3 RB's. Coleby got 1 in 4 minutes

@autohawk don't have the tools to measure energy nor desire. Sorry I can't be of assistance.

@Blown just the eye test/results

20% from 3

That hurt. Oregon had a lot to do with that by destroying our confidence

Let's say Bill announces he's leaving Kansas. Who you gonna go get to fulfill your expectations?

Never thought I be on a KU site were some would be beating their chest saying I told you so ???

Unbelievable.

@DoubleDD it's an ego thing. Don't worry about it.

@Bwag thats why I want to see long, athletic players and mix up defenses - zone press/matchup zone/press, etc.

@HawkChamp Dukes long and athletics are sitting at home. Now what ?

@Blown

I know. I just have a very bad temper. I even did anger management courses. I just can't wrap my mind around a KU fan saying I told you so.

Just slays me.

@cragarhawk JK dude-Sorry but thanks for sharing the wife ......LOLOL ...then again no thanks.

Not going to win to many games shooting 35 % from the field and 20 % from the 3pt stripe having 8 shots blocked, not going to win to many games this way. - - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@DoubleDD life is good. This team made you feel all the feels this year. That is the thing to focus on.

@Blown

You're right. It was a magical season.

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Peace out Homies

@Blown thats not a model defensive team - not even close.

Sorry to all I offended. It's just I live and die with KU.

You don't understand KU basketball righted my ship. I was a thug and lots of other things. Well until Danny and the miracles. Hard as it seems to believe it changed me. I can't tell you how or why. It just did.

Night My KU Brethren. It's time for me to go into the holding tank. I need to cool off.

This team was capable of such beautiful ball. Dammit ya just never want it to be over