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2019 Transfer List
Mar 19, 2019 11:12 AM #1

KU could be very active on the transfer market again depending on how things shake with the roster.

The Mid-Year transfer list hit 150.

The current total is over 525

Players KU has reached out to:

Rayjon Tucker- Little Rock transfer. Averaged 20ppg. Former FGCU player under Dooley. Explosive Athlete, has rounded out his game had 15+ 20 point games this season. Had 21 against Nevada, 29 against Memphis, 16 against Georgetown. Can create his own and shoot the 3 at a high level Career 41% shooter. Should be priority #1. Would start at KU.

Daniel Utomi- Akron transfer. Made 97 3's as a Jr. Grad transfer. Lead the team in scoring the past two seasons. Big wing 6'6 215 that can shoot over the top of defenders and rebounds well.

David Jenkins- South Dakota St Soph. Averaged 19ppg and 45% 3pt shooting. Likely will have to sit a year. Could appeal due to coaching change. With some recent football transfers getting immediate eligibility there is precedent for him here.

Mar 19, 2019 11:17 AM #2

One name likely to have a lot of interest already is Luwane Pipkins. Averaged 21 ppg two seasons ago. Numbers dipped to 16 ppg this season. Had 30 against Nevada this season. Just 5'11 though. Won't be for everyone

Mar 19, 2019 01:16 PM #3

"So, you understand if you go to Kansas, this being your last season, there is a very reasonable chance you won't get to play in the NCAA tournament. I'm not saying it's certain, but the NCAA is investigating, they banned a player for basically two seasons, there are recordings of a coach talking about paying a player, and guys that helped Kansas recruit are going to jail. It's just reality. Here, at ______, we have none of that. I would hate to see a player in your spot lose a chance in his final season, to play in the NCAA tournament."

Or something like that ...

Mar 19, 2019 01:16 PM #4

@HighEliteMajor :(

Mar 19, 2019 02:06 PM #5

It will be a very interesting off season for College basketball. I'm not sure they have a ton on us with Zion not coming here and Billy not playing. If all they have is SDS's 2500 they have without question gone overboard with his suspension. If we get in trouble for KT discussing Zion's wants while they look into Dook's recruitment of him they are gonna piss off a ton of other programs. They have already been super easy on the SEC and ACC schools in the past. I think this could shake out many ways and one is the death of the NCAA.

Mar 19, 2019 02:26 PM #6

I think the suspension has to do with the 20K promised, but not delivered also. 2 years for $2,500 is too much, there must be some other consideration. Assuming the NCAA isn’t just plain evil.

Mar 19, 2019 04:47 PM #7

@dylans That's the trouble they are evil without question. Why does this school get hammered, while some other school (usually SEC or ACC) gets nothing. Think back to the SMU death penalty, everyone knew other schools were paying and did nothing. SMU didn't have connections high enough up to get swept under the rug plain and simple. There is too much money at steak for there not to be corruption. Anywhere where there is this much on the line there is something going on, look at wall street. A good chunk of people that have money don't have clean hands, they screwed someone 9/10 times. The NCAA is at fault as much as anyone for creating this IMO, they have no care for student athletes. Just the money that comes in, why else has the FF been held at 90k seat arena's for the past decade? I know people that have gone and say the atmosphere is a damn joke. They just want those extra seats so maximum profits can be made.

Mar 19, 2019 05:32 PM #8

Mark Emmert's salary is $2.4M.

That's all I need to know about the NCAA. What probably started out as a pure and noble idea has been completely infiltrated by greed.

Mar 19, 2019 06:20 PM #9

Would take as a grad transfer. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/nate-sestina-1.html ↗

Mar 19, 2019 06:22 PM #10

FarmerJayhawk said:

Would take as a grad transfer. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/nate-sestina-1.html ↗

Has he announced?

Mar 19, 2019 06:26 PM #11

@BeddieKU23 Looks like he has.

Mar 19, 2019 06:27 PM #12

BeddieKU23 said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

Would take as a grad transfer. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/nate-sestina-1.html ↗

Has he announced?

Yessir

Mar 19, 2019 06:29 PM #13

@Kcmatt7 Come on. You know where the money comes from, right? TV in very large part. Tickets. Products. That all creates interest. It puts the athletes on a huge stage. Let's them further their own product. Let's them prepare for pro sports, or for the other 95%, for a career where their involvement in such athletics gives them a huge foot in the door for the rest of their lives. Of course, that evil money funds a bunch of other non-revenue sports that wouldn't exist, scholarships, etc. It's a tired narrative you're singing, my friend. All of this ... all of it ... benefits the student athlete.

Mar 19, 2019 06:45 PM #14

@HighEliteMajor How has anything I have ever said changed anything for the 95%?

Mar 19, 2019 07:16 PM #15

Another guy I’d take, this time with a KU connection. Rayjon Tucker. 6’5, averaged 20 and 7 boards, 41% from 3. Started at FGCU under Dooley. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/rayjon-tucker-1.html ↗

Mar 19, 2019 07:17 PM #16

BeddieKU23 said:

One name likely to have a lot of interest already is Luwane Pipkins. Averaged 21 ppg two seasons ago. Numbers dipped to 16 ppg this season. Had 30 against Nevada this season. Just 5'11 though. Won't be for everyone

Do not want. Looks like he regressed and his 3pt shooting is turrible. Makes me think of Chuck Moore.

Mar 19, 2019 07:21 PM #17

@FarmerJayhawk Sestina looks like he could be a solid stop gap in the post.

Tucker idk, this would be his second transfer which really makes you wonder. Also doesn't appear to play much defense. But a very good 3 pt shooter. I'd rather just return all our guards in a perfect world. Though maybe Chuck gets ran off it's a tough sell for a grad transfer when Dotson, Grimes (if back), Garrett and Agbaji are all locks for solid minutes.

Mar 19, 2019 07:27 PM #18

@BShark He left Gulf Coast when Dooley went to ECU and Little Rock just had a terrible season under a first year coach so it's timing more than anything. I would love to return everyone but we'll see. We may need to go 4 guards again next season.

Mar 19, 2019 07:29 PM #19

@FarmerJayhawk Forgot about Dooley leaving FGCU. That makes a ton of sense then.

Mar 19, 2019 07:50 PM #20

@BShark Your "Grimes, if back" statement caught my eye.

Are you thinking of a transfer? Surely nobody in the NBA could look at any of his games (except maybe two) and think "We got to get this kid into our NBA lineup".

Mar 19, 2019 07:54 PM #21

@nuleafjhawk Lots of teams in Bosnia, Australia etc...

Seen it mentioned a lot that his inner circle (in this case family) sees him as a OAD and that this year is viewed as an "off year/anomaly".

And really who knows re NBA draft as he has shown well the last couple games and if he plays well in the NCAAT that + his pedigree could get him drafted.

Mar 19, 2019 08:18 PM #22

@BShark Oh yeah, I forgot about the overseas option. Thanks!

Mar 19, 2019 11:12 PM #23

@Kcmatt7 I’m not tracking with the greed thing then. My response was to demonstrate that a CEO making a couple million providing over a billion in benefits annually to its members, and the entirety of the athletes, is nothing to complain about. What’s your point?

Mar 20, 2019 12:25 AM #24

J’Raan Brooks is transferring from USC. Would have to sit a year.

Mar 20, 2019 09:26 AM #25

List at 230 now. Updated orig post.

UNLV's Joel Ntambwe 6'9 is transferring. Freshman Forward averaged 11 and 5, made 44 3's, good for 38%. Would have to sit unless they are awarding coaches being fired now.

Mar 20, 2019 05:43 PM #26

Shakur Juiston announced he's transferring. How cliche would it be to get him this time around

Mar 20, 2019 06:14 PM #27

BeddieKU23 said:

Shakur Juiston announced he's transferring. How cliche would it be to get him this time around

I'd take him in a New York minute. - -If I remember right we were right there till the end with him weren't we?- plus I think maybe Iowa State? - -could be wrong - isn't he like 6'9 right? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Mar 20, 2019 06:16 PM #28

@jayballer73

That's the guy. We offered but I don't think he ever made it to campus. His handler put an end to that..

He'd certainly fit a role here similar to what we expected from De Sousa

Mar 20, 2019 06:19 PM #29

BeddieKU23 said:

@jayballer73

That's the guy. We offered but I don't think he ever made it to campus. His handler put an end to that..

He'd certainly fit a role here similar to what we expected from De Sousa

YA , I was thinking he was a beast on the boards too. - What - his handler didn't like KU or what? - -if his handler is like Silvio's - -then we better back up and slowly walk away. - -I'm almost to a point if a kid has a guardian or handler or what the hell ever - -we ( Ku ) - needs to run - -seems like nothing goods come from these guys. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Mar 20, 2019 06:24 PM #30

Stephen F Austin Forward TJ Holyfield will grad transfer. Sat out this season with a shoulder injury. All time leader in blocks at the school was apart of some good teams for SFA before. Can shoot the 3 as well

Mar 20, 2019 06:26 PM #31

jayballer73 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

@jayballer73

That's the guy. We offered but I don't think he ever made it to campus. His handler put an end to that..

He'd certainly fit a role here similar to what we expected from De Sousa

YA , I was thinking he was a beast on the boards too. - What - his handler didn't like KU or what? - -if his handler is like Silvio's - -then we better back up and slowly walk away. - -I'm almost to a point if a kid has a guardian or handler or what the hell ever - -we ( Ku ) - needs to run - -seems like nothing goods come from these guys. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

I have no idea what the deal was with his handler but they went for the deal that offered him the most playing time. He just had knee surgery a few months back.

Mar 20, 2019 06:37 PM #32

That’s @Crimsonorblue22 s guy. Hutch juco I believe. Probably better that McCormack got the minutes this year for next years sake though.

Mar 20, 2019 06:38 PM #33

List up to 265

Mar 20, 2019 07:37 PM #34

BeddieKU23 said:

Shakur Juiston announced he's transferring. How cliche would it be to get him this time around

Would take.

Mar 20, 2019 08:39 PM #35

This article has a list of coaches being looked at to replace fired UNLV HC Marvin Menzies. It includes one current Big 12 coach and a couple of previous ones:

https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/unlv/unlv-basketball/whos-next-at-unlv-1619489/ ↗

Mar 20, 2019 10:16 PM #36

@dylans yep! Should have got him in the first place!

Mar 20, 2019 10:43 PM #37

Crimsonorblue22 said:

@dylans yep! Should have got him in the first place!

We tried, but his dude took a better deal at the time. Will be interesting to see where he goes this time, my money is on closer to home

Mar 21, 2019 12:26 AM #38

He's had surgery for a torn meniscus, must be doing better than me

Mar 21, 2019 12:42 AM #39

@Crimsonorblue22 Still gimpy? Sorry to hear it. I’m a bit sore myself, but in all honesty now my other knee is feeling jealous. I can hardly fathom Tyshawn playing basketball just a week or so after his meniscus surgery!

Mar 21, 2019 01:09 AM #40

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/desmond-cambridge-2.html ↗

Mar 21, 2019 03:58 AM #41

dylans said:

@Crimsonorblue22 Still gimpy? Sorry to hear it. I’m a bit sore myself, but in all honesty now my other knee is feeling jealous. I can hardly fathom Tyshawn playing basketball just a week or so after his meniscus surgery!

these things are no fun for sure - -I tore mine - -turned around and re tore it -so they went in again - - now they are telling me most of my problem is behind my knee cap -still feel pressure all the time around my knee cap - -always feels really tender- aches - - a lot of times - definetly makes you take notice -- still have to wear a brace on it quite a bit - man getting old for sure lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Mar 21, 2019 10:24 AM #42

BShark said:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/desmond-cambridge-2.html ↗

His shooting touch rivals Marcus. Can't endorse

Mar 21, 2019 01:52 PM #43

@jayballer73 They have a replacement meniscus that is in trials right now. Only people that have had issues with their first (or second) meniscus surgery are eligible for the trial. It may be something to look into if it’s not getting better.

Mar 21, 2019 02:10 PM #44

Meniscus is tricky stuff .. one of the biggest complications related to ACL recovery is if the meniscus was involved. That can add multiple months to recovery. It's better long term to have an ACL tear with no meniscus, than just meniscus tearing (as all of you with meniscus issues surely know!). My daughter deals with that and it is not fun. My older son recovered from the ACL deal without issue. Obviously more traumatic when it happened, but he has no ill effects now. Except for soreness where the ACL was attached to the tibia with a screw.

Mar 21, 2019 02:26 PM #45

@HighEliteMajor It depends if it’s a repair or a trim job. Mine was just trimmed and I walked out of the hospital on crutches that I ditched after the next day. However 4 months later I still am a little stiff and probably need to start doing stretches. I’d say I’m 90% - much better than before the surgery, but still not quiet right.

Not everyone is so lucky. Others get along better.

Repairing the mensicus (stitching it back together) on the other hand has a ridiculously long recovery time.

Mar 21, 2019 02:55 PM #46

HighEliteMajor said:

Meniscus is tricky stuff .. one of the biggest complications related to ACL recovery is if the meniscus was involved. That can add multiple months to recovery. It's better long term to have an ACL tear with no meniscus, than just meniscus tearing (as all of you with meniscus issues surely know!). My daughter deals with that and it is not fun. My older son recovered from the ACL deal without issue. Obviously more traumatic when it happened, but he has no ill effects now. Except for soreness where the ACL was attached to the tibia with a screw.

ACL is no good either -But I like I was saying I tore my Meniscus - and then turned around and re- tore it - - to go along with a torn LCL. - So I had my torn MCL & LCL both loads of fun lol - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Mar 22, 2019 02:19 PM #47

No idea what Simi Shittu is gonna do but he had a rough year at Vandy and they fired their coach. If he does transfer I'd be super interested.

Mar 22, 2019 03:24 PM #48

@BShark

Yeah I think he'll go pro, not that he's even close to ready. If he hits the transfer trail Self should be his first call.

Mar 22, 2019 05:22 PM #49

BShark said:

No idea what Simi Shittu is gonna do but he had a rough year at Vandy and they fired their coach. If he does transfer I'd be super interested.

The Garland injury really messed up everything at Vandy. The PG makes that whole situation go (or not).

Mar 22, 2019 06:47 PM #50

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/akwasi-yeboah-1.html ↗

Transferring.

Mar 22, 2019 07:38 PM #51

BShark said:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/akwasi-yeboah-1.html ↗

Transferring.

Wow he is really good. 2nd best player in the American East conf

Mar 22, 2019 07:39 PM #52

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/akwasi-yeboah-1.html ↗

Transferring.

Wow he is really good. 2nd best player in the American East conf

If he can play next year I am interested.

Mar 22, 2019 07:40 PM #53

@BShark

Not sure. Trying to remember whether he redshirted

Mar 22, 2019 10:18 PM #54

BeddieKU23 said:

@BShark

Not sure. Trying to remember whether he redshirted

Affirmative

Mar 23, 2019 03:09 PM #55

@FarmerJayhawk

Thanks. I thought he did but I couldn't remember specific.

He is a good one

Mar 24, 2019 01:05 AM #56

Rumored grad transfer. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/nathan-hoover-1.html ↗

Mar 24, 2019 01:42 AM #57

@FarmerJayhawk

That was quick..wonder why

Mar 24, 2019 01:43 AM #58

@BeddieKU23 it’s been in the works for awhile I guess. Probably just wants to play major conference ball for a year.

Mar 24, 2019 01:44 AM #59

@FarmerJayhawk

He is certainly good enough to do so. Made some tough shots today. His sidekick gave him no help

Mar 24, 2019 01:45 AM #60

I’d imagine a lot of schools will be after him. Not a lot of guys can volume shoot 3s at that clip

Mar 24, 2019 01:46 AM #61

@Kcmatt7

Absolutely.

I'd take him here in a heartbeat

Mar 24, 2019 02:59 AM #62

BeddieKU23 said:

@Kcmatt7

Absolutely.

I'd take him here in a heartbeat

hell ya. -- -we need SOMEBODY that can shoot the ball - -this group we got right now is a joke

Mar 24, 2019 03:21 AM #63

Can't play behind him

Mar 25, 2019 10:32 AM #64

Transfer List hits over 300.

Another intriguing name. Daniel Utomi of Akron is grad transferring. Leading scorer at 14.2 ppg. Averaged 16ppg as a Soph. Made 93 3's this season. 6'6 215, well built combo forward that rebounds well.

Mar 25, 2019 01:08 PM #65

BeddieKU23 said:

6'6 215, well built combo forward that rebounds well.

Interested in this kind of player big time.

Mar 26, 2019 03:54 PM #66

Transfer list over 350.

More names, Makai Ashton-Langford. Georgia making room for more Nike money kids. UNLV's entire team. Dazon Ingram of Alabama.

Xavier landed a quality big that is eligible in Ohio transfer Jason Carter, averaged 16 and 6.

Mar 26, 2019 04:26 PM #67

IDK about transfers. They had better be a target like Malik and not a desperation grab like Charlie.

Mar 26, 2019 04:37 PM #68

dylans said:

IDK about transfers. They had better be a target like Malik and not a desperation grab like Charlie.

It's hit of miss. But look at all the transfers left in the Sweet 16 that are making big impacts

Brandon Clarke started his career at San Jose St and is a Top 2 player at Gonzaga and will be drafted in the 1st round in June.

Texas Tech's 3-6 leading scorers are transfers

Michigan's 3rd leading scorer Charles Matthews transferred from Kentucky.

Braxton Key plays a role on Virginia's team.

Paul White has been an intergral part of Oregon's tournament success so far coming from Georgetown.

Bigby-Williams for LSU

Houston has 2 transfers in their rotation.

Reid Travis at Kentucky

Cameron Johnson of UNC is their leading scorer

Mar 26, 2019 04:45 PM #69

BeddieKU23 said:

dylans said:

IDK about transfers. They had better be a target like Malik and not a desperation grab like Charlie.

It's hit of miss. But look at all the transfers left in the Sweet 16 that are making big impacts

Brandon Clarke started his career at San Jose St and is a Top 2 player at Gonzaga and will be drafted in the 1st round in June.

Texas Tech's 3-6 leading scorers are transfers

Michigan's 3rd leading scorer Charles Matthews transferred from Kentucky.

Braxton Key plays a role on Virginia's team.

Paul White has been an intergral part of Oregon's tournament success so far coming from Georgetown.

Bigby-Williams for LSU

Houston has 2 transfers in their rotation.

Reid Travis at Kentucky

Cameron Johnson of UNC is their leading scorer

This.

You have to be involved in the transfer market now. There is too much talent to ignore. People are scared of by Charlie, but they really shouldn't be. Two years in a row we have had a transfer be one of our better players. And we had a very positive experience with Black.

Every year there are quality guys, it is just picking and landing the right ones.

I don't think it helps the way we recruit though. We are always recruiting guys deep into April when all of this shakes out, so some transfers are scared to come here.

Mar 26, 2019 04:53 PM #70

Kcmatt7 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

dylans said:

IDK about transfers. They had better be a target like Malik and not a desperation grab like Charlie.

It's hit of miss. But look at all the transfers left in the Sweet 16 that are making big impacts

Brandon Clarke started his career at San Jose St and is a Top 2 player at Gonzaga and will be drafted in the 1st round in June.

Texas Tech's 3-6 leading scorers are transfers

Michigan's 3rd leading scorer Charles Matthews transferred from Kentucky.

Braxton Key plays a role on Virginia's team.

Paul White has been an intergral part of Oregon's tournament success so far coming from Georgetown.

Bigby-Williams for LSU

Houston has 2 transfers in their rotation.

Reid Travis at Kentucky

Cameron Johnson of UNC is their leading scorer

This.

You have to be involved in the transfer market now. There is too much talent to ignore. People are scared of by Charlie, but they really shouldn't be. Two years in a row we have had a transfer be one of our better players. And we had a very positive experience with Black.

Every year there are quality guys, it is just picking and landing the right ones.

I don't think it helps the way we recruit though. We are always recruiting guys deep into April when all of this shakes out, so some transfers are scared to come here.

Cunliffe didn't work out too well either for recency.

Some success stories are Withey, Black, Lawson, Newman. Self has usually targeted transfers from Power 5 or bigger named schools.

I hope we take one grad transfer at least as well as a sit-out transfer. Not sure we'll convince enough HS talent to come here at this point with the current situations going on. There's a real chance only 5 Letterman return as it is. Best case reality type scenario seems to be around 8 + the two signee's. I seem to repeat this every year but Self should sign as many 2019/20 eligible players as he can find. After that get 1 sit-out with experience to mold. One year was enough of having a young team. Self needs to get old no matter how

Mar 26, 2019 05:14 PM #71

I agree that you have to play in the transfer market. As @BeddieKU23 said there are a lot of teams in the S16 that have transfers and would not be there without them. It is just the way the college game has gone. Now I do think Self got a little over zealous on that here in the last couple of years, but hopefully he lands some high level kids in the next month or so and doesn't have to take on a bunch more.

As far as Moore goes I think the staff just absolutely whiffed on him. They thought he was going to be a legit rotation guy averaging 10ppg. He flopped. It happens.

If Self and his staff are not scouring every avenue possible to find a shooter then they are not doing their job. They absolutely have to find a grad transfer like Hoover from Wofford that can shoot.

Mar 26, 2019 06:01 PM #72

Recruiting of any sort is hit and miss, high school or transfers. Obviously some 5* HS kids didn't pan out either. But yeah, you have to play in that market now since so many talented guys transfer. You just have to do your homework and make the best judgment you can about what kind of player and person he is.

Mar 26, 2019 06:02 PM #73

BeddieKU23 said:

Kcmatt7 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

dylans said:

IDK about transfers. They had better be a target like Malik and not a desperation grab like Charlie.

It's hit of miss. But look at all the transfers left in the Sweet 16 that are making big impacts

Brandon Clarke started his career at San Jose St and is a Top 2 player at Gonzaga and will be drafted in the 1st round in June.

Texas Tech's 3-6 leading scorers are transfers

Michigan's 3rd leading scorer Charles Matthews transferred from Kentucky.

Braxton Key plays a role on Virginia's team.

Paul White has been an intergral part of Oregon's tournament success so far coming from Georgetown.

Bigby-Williams for LSU

Houston has 2 transfers in their rotation.

Reid Travis at Kentucky

Cameron Johnson of UNC is their leading scorer

This.

You have to be involved in the transfer market now. There is too much talent to ignore. People are scared of by Charlie, but they really shouldn't be. Two years in a row we have had a transfer be one of our better players. And we had a very positive experience with Black.

Every year there are quality guys, it is just picking and landing the right ones.

I don't think it helps the way we recruit though. We are always recruiting guys deep into April when all of this shakes out, so some transfers are scared to come here.

Cunliffe didn't work out too well either for recency.

Some success stories are Withey, Black, Lawson, Newman. Self has usually targeted transfers from Power 5 or bigger named schools.

I hope we take one grad transfer at least as well as a sit-out transfer. Not sure we'll convince enough HS talent to come here at this point with the current situations going on. There's a real chance only 5 Letterman return as it is. Best case reality type scenario seems to be around 8 + the two signee's. I seem to repeat this every year but Self should sign as many 2019/20 eligible players as he can find. After that get 1 sit-out with experience to mold. One year was enough of having a young team. Self needs to get old no matter how

I can't believe I forgot Withey. So our last two FFs, we had a transfer play a huge role. Actually, that FF team with Withey also had Wesley and Young as well. 3 transfers that year.

Mar 26, 2019 06:19 PM #74

lowa state 6-foot-9 sophomore bigman cam lard is transferring, source told @stadium

Mar 26, 2019 06:23 PM #75

@Kcmatt7

Forgot about Kevin Young

Mar 26, 2019 06:37 PM #76

JAYHAWKFAN214 said:

lowa state 6-foot-9 sophomore bigman cam lard is transferring, source told @stadium

He would probably be blocked in going to KU. but he is the kind of guy we need. Long, athletic, and can protect the rim.

Mar 26, 2019 06:37 PM #77

I wonder if Kira Lewis would be interested? He may bolt after Avery got canned. KU was on him as a possible 2019 guy.

Mar 26, 2019 06:40 PM #78

FarmerJayhawk said:

I wonder if Kira Lewis would be interested? He may bolt after Avery got canned. KU was on him as a possible 2019 guy.

Would take in a heart beat.

Mar 26, 2019 06:40 PM #79

@Woodrow Are you saying we have to play in the transfer market generally or specifically now to fill an obvious hole? The latter may be be necessary given where we are, but not sure I agree with the former as general proposition. Has UNC relied on transfers? Seems that Roy has done a pretty good job of keeping guys around for at least 2-3, if not 4 years - not relying on transfers and in many years, not very many of the top recruits out of HS.

Mar 26, 2019 06:41 PM #80

@DCHawker His leading scorer this year is a transfer.

Mar 26, 2019 06:43 PM #81

@Kcmatt7 Ha - I don't want facts to get in the way of a good narrative.... ;) Thanks for setting me straight. But, has that been the rule or is this year an exception?

Mar 26, 2019 06:47 PM #82

@DCHawker I am saying we should only take a transfer to fill a hole. Like next years team needs a shooter so we should be looking for a shooter. ( Next years team needs a lot )

I am not advocating to become the next Iowa St. or transfer U, but I don't think we should look at it is taboo and be afraid to take one every now and again. If Kentucky didn't take Reid Travis they would not be in the S16 and contending for another title.

Mar 26, 2019 06:47 PM #83

@DCHawker An exception. As has Reid Travis at UK.

What is happening more and more though is teams are able to build a high caliber team with transfers, or in a case like this season, add that final piece.

Nevada made a FF run around transfers. Houston has transfers this season. Nova won the Championship with one last season. Gonzaga went to the NC last season with a team based around transfers. It's has really changed the game as of late.

Mar 26, 2019 06:52 PM #84

Bucknell Transfer Nathan Sestina is taking a visit to Kentucky.

Mar 26, 2019 09:39 PM #85

Isaiah Joe from Arkansas would be worth a look of he transferred out. 6-5 twig. Shot 8 threes a game at a .414 clip. Would have led KU in steals (although I'm sure a good chunk of that comes from the Mike Anderson system). Would have 3 years of eligibility left.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/isaiah-joe-1.html ↗

Mar 26, 2019 09:42 PM #86

I count Lawson as a miss. 4 scholarship years tied up between Dedrick and KJ for one meh year from Dedrick that resulted in a third place Big 12 finish.

Mar 26, 2019 09:53 PM #87

@dylans What more could Dedric have done than average a very efficient double-double and lead the team in scoring? Dedric was absolutely fantastic this season, imo.

Mar 26, 2019 10:23 PM #88

FarmerJayhawk said:

I wonder if Kira Lewis would be interested? He may bolt after Avery got canned. KU was on him as a possible 2019 guy.

He has entered the transfer portal

Mar 26, 2019 10:29 PM #89

dylans said:

I count Lawson as a miss. 4 scholarship years tied up between Dedrick and KJ for one meh year from Dedrick that resulted in a third place Big 12 finish.

My gods.

Mar 26, 2019 10:33 PM #90

Woodrow said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

I wonder if Kira Lewis would be interested? He may bolt after Avery got canned. KU was on him as a possible 2019 guy.

He has entered the transfer portal

Wow this is the best player yet to enter.

Mar 26, 2019 10:52 PM #91

BeddieKU23 said:

Woodrow said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

I wonder if Kira Lewis would be interested? He may bolt after Avery got canned. KU was on him as a possible 2019 guy.

He has entered the transfer portal

Wow this is the best player yet to enter.

DO WANT. Plenty of size to play the 2 if he can get eligible immediately.

Mar 27, 2019 12:16 AM #92

Kira Lewis is definitely a big time want.

And wow at Lard transferring. Writing was on the wall this year with suspensions and less PT but he will be a good player for another program.

Mar 27, 2019 12:24 AM #93

Apparently KU is interested in https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/matt-ryan-1.html ↗

Mar 27, 2019 12:34 AM #94

@BShark yeah Lard did not have a good go of it in Ames. So many suspensions. Also, can we not with Ryan? Not impressed.

Mar 27, 2019 12:34 AM #95

@FarmerJayhawk I sure hope it doesn't come to him for a forward. Just get Hurt or Precious and it's all good.

Mar 27, 2019 12:39 AM #96

FarmerJayhawk said:

@BShark yeah Lard did not have a good go of it in Ames. So many suspensions. Also, can we not with Ryan? Not impressed.

That's a no with me for Ryan either - -not impressed - - I'll take a pass. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Mar 27, 2019 12:42 AM #97

BShark said:

@FarmerJayhawk I sure hope it doesn't come to him for a forward. Just get Hurt or Precious and it's all good.

Well I dunno BUT after listening to Hurt's interview with Rivals - has given me renewed hope/interest. - maybe a real reach - quite possibly reading to much into it but just sounded like he really was interested in Ku and Coach's just everything about KU - -we will see. - -see how this last month goes before his announcement. - We deserve some good news for change -- - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Mar 27, 2019 12:52 AM #98

jayballer73 said:

BShark said:

@FarmerJayhawk I sure hope it doesn't come to him for a forward. Just get Hurt or Precious and it's all good.

Well I dunno BUT after listening to Hurt's interview with Rivals - has given me renewed hope/interest. - maybe a real reach - quite possibly reading to much into it but just sounded like he really was interested in Ku and Coach's just everything about KU - -we will see. - -see how this last month goes before his announcement. - We deserve some good news for change -- - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

My honest take is Hurt is still open to KU, dook, and UNC. I think a lot of the dook hype lately has been media driven.

Mar 27, 2019 01:03 AM #99

Not sure if this guy's name has been bought up - I apologize if it has but his name is : Nate Sestina grad transfer from Bucknell - - 6"9 forward , some pretty solid numbers. - has had like 50 schools interested in him at the present.

15.8 - - -ppg - - - - -8.5 - -rpg - - - - - -38% - -- 3pt % - - - -81 % -- - ft - - - & 60 % - from 2 pt range - -I would think we might want to check it out - - -taking Kentucky visit soon. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Mar 27, 2019 01:51 AM #100

BShark said:

Apparently KU is interested in https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/matt-ryan-1.html ↗

Gross

Mar 27, 2019 03:11 AM #101

Got a question . - -Is it me? - -have I missed the boat? - -I just don't remember such a huge stock plie of players transferring like this before in recent years. - -What has caused such a very big amount of players transferring like this in the past few years? - -what has changed to cause so many to transfer? - -Seems like just in the last 3-4 years. - is that right? - -or have I just been blind to this in the last decade?

Mar 27, 2019 08:57 AM #102

@jayballer73

875 kids last yr FYI.

Kids have more leverage and choice now. Gone are the days Coaches and administrations can just say your not going anywhere, or we're going to restrict where you can go. It's bad PR to do it now.

The Grad Transfer angle has basically made it free agency. College Football is headed down a very steep dangerous path with eligibility appeals on some high profile kids (Justin Fields, Tate Martell). The transfer portal is another very recent tool given to kids looking to transfer as well. If kids don't like the situation they are in they feel empowered to change it. This is the times we live in now.

Mar 27, 2019 09:55 AM #103

More names today. Just a recap of a day that saw nearly 100 new names in the Portal.

Matt Freeman of Oklahoma. Matt Ryan of Vanderbilt. Keith Stone and Michael Okuru of Florida. Tai Strickland of Wisconsin. Amauri Hardy of UNLV. Cameron Lard of Iowa St. Kira Lewis Jr of Alabama. Jahaad Proctor (19ppg) for High Point.

Mar 27, 2019 10:06 AM #104

BShark said:

Apparently KU is interested in https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/matt-ryan-1.html ↗

Not understand that one. He really took a dive on his shooting numbers at Vandy. Was known as a big time shooter coming into Notre Dame. Saw some Vandy games this year and he was not very good.

Mar 27, 2019 10:37 AM #105

Kira Lewis please and thank you.

Mar 27, 2019 11:22 AM #106

Kcmatt7 said:

Kira Lewis please and thank you.

He'll have plenty of suitors. KU and Tennessee recruited him to the end last spring. Maybe we get lucky 2nd time around like with Malik. Kira is a jet with the ball similar to Dotson with a little more size and length. Was impressed by him this year

Mar 27, 2019 12:04 PM #107

BeddieKU23 said:

Kcmatt7 said:

Kira Lewis please and thank you.

He'll have plenty of suitors. KU and Tennessee recruited him to the end last spring. Maybe we get lucky 2nd time around like with Malik. Kira is a jet with the ball similar to Dotson with a little more size and length. Was impressed by him this year

I watched a couple of Bama games this year. He stands out. I'm actually sort of shocked he wasn't on draft boards, but I think that's only because he's not eligible. Still 17 until next Saturday.

Mar 27, 2019 01:25 PM #108

@jayballer73 Because nobody can commit to anything anymore. No loyalty. Everybody wants to be the star of the team and not a team player.

Mar 27, 2019 01:25 PM #109

Kcmatt7 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

Kcmatt7 said:

Kira Lewis please and thank you.

He'll have plenty of suitors. KU and Tennessee recruited him to the end last spring. Maybe we get lucky 2nd time around like with Malik. Kira is a jet with the ball similar to Dotson with a little more size and length. Was impressed by him this year

I watched a couple of Bama games this year. He stands out. I'm actually sort of shocked he wasn't on draft boards, but I think that's only because he's not eligible. Still 17 until next Saturday.

Same, saw some games and I was surprised how good he was. Beat out veterans, led the team in scoring. I know he was young but I didn't realize he was Svi young.

I have a feeling wherever he lands he'll appeal to be immediately eligible. I would if I were him after what has happened in College Football.

Mar 27, 2019 01:25 PM #110

nuleafjhawk said:

@jayballer73 Because nobody can commit to anything anymore. No loyalty. Everybody wants to be the star of the team and not a team player.

Prison Mitch says HELLO

Mar 27, 2019 02:32 PM #111

nuleafjhawk said:

@jayballer73 Because nobody can commit to anything anymore. No loyalty. Everybody wants to be the star of the team and not a team player.

Sure, that's part of it.

The other part is that coaches constantly leave jobs. The odds of you playing all four years for the coach you committed to is very unlikely.

Another part of it is coaches incorrectly assessing the talent of players. Bill Self has basically kicked several players out of the program. He isn't the only one.

Another part is that coaches are liars. Recruits are told they'll be given the world. Anything to get them on campus. Then, they realize that everyone was told that. It wasn't the truth. And now they have to make a decision.

The last part, of course everyone wants to play. You get 4-5 years to play and then for the majority of guys, it's over. Why would you not want to spend your time playing? If it looks like you are never going to get the opportunity you were looking for at this school, why wouldn't you go somewhere else that you would be more valued? You're going to spend 40+ hours a week doing this. You should try to be somewhere you feel happy and welcomed.

I want to ask two questions. Have you ever changed jobs before? Why weren't you completely loyal to the first place you ever started working? Better opportunity elsewhere? You hated your boss? Job description turned out to be different than was explained to you? You like to be an integral part of a smaller organization than just a cog at a big one? Wanted to move back closer to family?

This is no different than leaving a job for another that you may be more interested in. The only thing people owe loyalty to is themselves and their family. They don't owe a coach who may leave at any second loyalty. They don't owe the school who won't even remember them any loyalty. Their only responsibility is to do what is best for themselves. Call that selfish all you want, but you only get one life and it's your responsibility to try to make the most out of it.

Mar 27, 2019 02:40 PM #112

BeddieKU23 said:

Kcmatt7 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

Kcmatt7 said:

Kira Lewis please and thank you.

He'll have plenty of suitors. KU and Tennessee recruited him to the end last spring. Maybe we get lucky 2nd time around like with Malik. Kira is a jet with the ball similar to Dotson with a little more size and length. Was impressed by him this year

I watched a couple of Bama games this year. He stands out. I'm actually sort of shocked he wasn't on draft boards, but I think that's only because he's not eligible. Still 17 until next Saturday.

Same, saw some games and I was surprised how good he was. Beat out veterans, led the team in scoring. I know he was young but I didn't realize he was Svi young.

I have a feeling wherever he lands he'll appeal to be immediately eligible. I would if I were him after what has happened in College Football.

That would be absolutely amazing.... I mean, if Tate Martell and Justin Fields can get immediate eligibility, I'd think anyone can at this point.

Mar 27, 2019 02:49 PM #113

@Kcmatt7"This is no different than leaving a job for another that you may be more interested in"

Yes, in my 43 years of employment I have changed jobs. I won't count my High School jobs or my first ....I guess i'd better make some kind of money to pay rent job - after those I spent close to 9 years at one job, we moved to another state and I spent close to 9 years at the next job (was laid off) and have been in my current job for 22 years.

So, I guess my opinion is that I'm not a big job hopper.

What sets that apart from the college basketball playing that we're talking about is this:

When I started looking for a "real" job, not every single major, high paying company in the free world was sending me letters, knocking on my door, offering to buy cars, houses, hookers, whatever it is that's on the table these days in order for me to come work for them.

I was the one who had to put in the legwork. I had to make sure my resume was good. I had to look and act decent at interviews. People were not begging me to work for them and pay me whatever i wanted. Even through those circumstances I felt a certain amount of loyalty to my employer for the time that they did invest in me.

I feel that when colleges invest thousands of dollars, plus the time involved to recruit players, the players should feel some sense of loyalty, some sense of obligation to stay there. Of course, there are always circumstances that dictate that a player must go, but it should be, in my opinion an extreme rarity.

I know my values are outdated, old fashioned and not realistic with todays society, but that's how I feel.

Mar 27, 2019 03:04 PM #114

@Kcmatt7 lol, I stuck around at my job so long my boss retired and I took over the business. I’d be ok with it if they allowed highschoolers to go pro and/or didn’t allow college freshmen to play (not so fond of the second one, but it would show a definite commitment and would force the kid to be in the system for 2 years to figure out if he’s any good before he bales due to being work brittle). I’d also be ok with requiring a 2 year scholarship commitment from the university for every recruit. i.e. OADs cost 2 scholarship years.

Mar 27, 2019 03:19 PM #115

nuleafjhawk said:

@Kcmatt7"This is no different than leaving a job for another that you may be more interested in"

Yes, in my 43 years of employment I have changed jobs. I won't count my High School jobs or my first ....I guess i'd better make some kind of money to pay rent job - after those I spent close to 9 years at one job, we moved to another state and I spent close to 9 years at the next job (was laid off) and have been in my current job for 22 years.

So, I guess my opinion is that I'm not a big job hopper.

What sets that apart from the college basketball playing that we're talking about is this:

When I started looking for a "real" job, not every single major, high paying company in the free world was sending me letters, knocking on my door, offering to buy cars, houses, hookers, whatever it is that's on the table these days in order for me to come work for them.

I was the one who had to put in the legwork. I had to make sure my resume was good. I had to look and act decent at interviews. People were not begging me to work for them and pay me whatever i wanted. Even through those circumstances I felt a certain amount of loyalty to my employer for the time that they did invest in me.

I feel that when colleges invest thousands of dollars, plus the time involved to recruit players, the players should feel some sense of loyalty, some sense of obligation to stay there. Of course, there are always circumstances that dictate that a player must go, but it should be, in my opinion an extreme rarity.

I know my values are outdated, old fashioned and not realistic with todays society, but that's how I feel.

I don't think people should be big hoppers. I also just don't think people should judge others harshly for altering their position for what is best for them and makes them happy.

There is nothing wrong with loyalty. It is a very good trait that can take you far. But it can also be a fault. Expecting every 17-18 year old to be happy with a decision they (or their parents) made as they mature into a young adult is foolish, imo.

This is their pay the rent job. It's also their summer internship. It also has the potential to be a multi-million dollar decision for them. So, in my opinion, it is ok for players to spend these 4 years of their lives in a somewhat selfish manner considering it could change their entire lives.

Mar 27, 2019 03:54 PM #116

dylans said:

@Kcmatt7 lol, I stuck around at my job so long my boss retired and I took over the business. I’d be ok with it if they allowed highschoolers to go pro and/or didn’t allow college freshmen to play (not so fond of the second one, but it would show a definite commitment and would force the kid to be in the system for 2 years to figure out if he’s any good before he bales due to being work brittle). I’d also be ok with requiring a 2 year scholarship commitment from the university for every recruit. i.e. OADs cost 2 scholarship years.

Well congratulations! Loyalty most certainly is a good trait and pays off for many. I'd love to start/own a business someday.

Now to the rest of your point:

I fully 100% agree players should be allowed to go pro and it's kind of dumb that the NBA ever put that rule in, in the first place.

I fully 100% disagree on the rest of your ideas. I don't believe that we should be limiting the opportunities of athletes just because we as fans enjoy watching sports more if players are here for 4 years. Limiting the opportunities of students is absolutely against the spirit of any Higher Learning Institution. A scholarship restriction does this, as does forcing a player to sit.

Mar 27, 2019 04:20 PM #117

@Kcmatt7 OADs are in the spirit of a
Higher Learning Institution?

Mar 27, 2019 05:24 PM #118

John Petty transferring from Bama. Took a step back this year but really talented kid.

Mar 27, 2019 05:25 PM #119

FarmerJayhawk said:

John Petty transferring from Bama. Took a step back this year but really talented kid.

I was hoping this was coming. Would take.

Mar 27, 2019 05:29 PM #120

Duke, Memphis, and TCU have already reached out to Lewis. I found it out that KU has not been listed as checking in on some of these transfers. I wonder if there is not as many guys leaving as some think...

Mar 27, 2019 05:37 PM #121

@dylans Yes. Colleges, by their very nature, are supposed to offer opportunities. Not limit them. Just because a player leaves without a degree doesn't mean they didn't get the opportunity they needed by going to college. It just so happens that after one year, some players end up having taken advantage of the opportunity offered to them.

Less than half of the people who attend college end up graduating. Yet we don't attempt to limit that number and just accept who we think will graduate instead of those who are qualified and apply. Regardless of their intentions of being there for a period of time. We don't force all students to sign a 4 year covenant that binds them to the University. They're free to leave if, let's say, someone offered them millions of dollars to do so.

So, why should we try to limit the opportunity of an athlete who qualified to go to the school academically?

Mar 27, 2019 05:38 PM #122

@Woodrow Certainly could be the case.... Which would be very unfortunate. Maybe Bill even scared himself off of the transfer market knowing he could be stuck with Charlie for another two years lol.

Mar 27, 2019 06:11 PM #123

Woodrow said:

Duke, Memphis, and TCU have already reached out to Lewis. I found it out that KU has not been listed as checking in on some of these transfers. I wonder if there is not as many guys leaving as some think...

I have now seen 17 schools mentioned with Lewis and not KU.

Mar 27, 2019 06:13 PM #124

Woodrow said:

Woodrow said:

Duke, Memphis, and TCU have already reached out to Lewis. I found it out that KU has not been listed as checking in on some of these transfers. I wonder if there is not as many guys leaving as some think...

I have now seen 17 schools mentioned with Lewis and not KU.

Maybe we are just doing it behind the scenes. You have to at least think so. He is an absolute stud and you'd be stupid to not reach out at the very least.

Mar 27, 2019 07:08 PM #125

@Kcmatt7 colleges are supposed to educate. America provides the opportunities. OADs make a farce of Higher Education.

If you can’t commit for 2 years, go get paid now. See how Lithuania treats you. Don’t make a mockery of our already horrid educational system. Let that scholarship go to a student athlete. But really I proposed holding the university responsible thru scholarship guidelines. This would provide more opportunities to student athletes that are being wasted in OADs, but would allow guys who go supernova an out. They don’t have to stay, but the U doesn’t want to recruit a roster of OADs either.

I value things that others don’t, I suppose. I need a solid commitment at my job from my help. I have had too many big talkers puss out on me. Those I can’t count on are dead to me.

While I wish these athletes would show some gumption and follow through with their commitment I also know things change and kids get out right lied to during recruiting.

So on the other hand;

I also think young men should be allowed to change their minds and transfer freely, but buyer beware. Many of these kids are talented, but don’t know what it takes to cash in on that talent.

Mar 27, 2019 09:53 PM #126

FarmerJayhawk said:

John Petty transferring from Bama. Took a step back this year but really talented kid.

Did he take a step back though? Doesn't look like it on a cursory glance, he just didn't improve as much as one would hope for but coaching (or lack of) plays a role there.

Mar 28, 2019 10:30 AM #127

Thomas Allen leaving Nebraska. I'll have to check with my friend about him. He still keeps in contact

Mar 28, 2019 10:33 AM #128

More intriguing names from Yesterday. John Petty (Alabama), DeAundre Ballard (Florida), Thomas Allen (Nebraska), former KU target.

List up to 400

Mar 28, 2019 12:09 PM #129

Thomas Allen would be ok

Mar 28, 2019 01:54 PM #130

Christian Keeling from Charleston Southern is a grad transfer. Was first team all Big South. Averaged 19-7-3 while shooting 47% from the field.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4067301/christian-keeling ↗

Mar 28, 2019 02:05 PM #131

The more I think about it though, the more I'd stay away from Allen. We already have McBride coming in. No real need for Allen. He doesn't offer anything we won't already have.

Mar 28, 2019 02:11 PM #132

Kcmatt7 said:

The more I think about it though, the more I'd stay away from Allen. We already have McBride coming in. No real need for Allen. He doesn't offer anything we won't already have.

We could have used him this year. Instead we took Charlie Moore. Allen wanted to be a Hawk.

My first guess is he will stay Adidas. They made in-roads with him in HS which is why KU/Neb were some of his options. Will be interesting to see who he deals with. Gassnola was not allowed at Brewster

Mar 28, 2019 03:51 PM #133

Woodrow said:

Christian Keeling from Charleston Southern is a grad transfer. Was first team all Big South. Averaged 19-7-3 while shooting 47% from the field.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4067301/christian-keeling ↗

Has solid size. Anyone seen him play? Wonder if he is a good athlete.

Mar 28, 2019 03:53 PM #134

@Kcmatt7 after this year I'm convinced we just can't have enough shooters.

Mar 28, 2019 04:01 PM #135

@BShark I don't know that Allen is a "shooter" though. His numbers are eerily similar to a one Charlie Moore during his freshman year. I'm just not sold that Allen is going to be able to step in here and make us better. It isn't like he didn't have a good supporting cast at Nebraska. Roby and Palmer were both very good players, so this was not a case of a guy trying to do it all. It was a case of a guy just not being that good, imo.

Mar 28, 2019 04:17 PM #136

Lamont West is transferring from West Virginia. Big loss for Huggy

Mar 28, 2019 04:29 PM #137

BShark said:

@Kcmatt7 after this year I'm convinced we just can't have enough shooters.

For sure - - - I agree

Mar 28, 2019 04:30 PM #138

Woodrow said:

Lamont West is transferring from West Virginia. Big loss for Huggy

WOW - -that's just crazy - -the turnover there this past season is nuts.

Mar 28, 2019 04:39 PM #139

@Woodrow geez!

Mar 28, 2019 04:39 PM #140

@jayballer73 to plus those kicked out!

Mar 28, 2019 04:47 PM #141

Crimsonorblue22 said:

@jayballer73 to plus those kicked out!

exactly. -- just what seems to be a crazy amount - - -seems like HUGGY for some reason possibly lost control of the guys this season. - - From watching them in the late games - -seems like he has a few players that really want to play for him though. -- I think Huggy gonna be just fine

Mar 28, 2019 04:54 PM #142

Woodrow said:

Lamont West is transferring from West Virginia. Big loss for Huggy

Not surprised on that one actually. I think addition by subtraction. West took a big step back this season. Huggy can run the 4 guard lineup with two big wings (Haley, Matthews) or go big with the Culver/Tshiebwe combo that is going to cause major problems in the Big-12 next season.

West was really just a 3 point shooter who took bad shots a good majority of the time. Charlie Moore of the Mountaineers

Mar 28, 2019 05:30 PM #143

I guess the pounding KU gave to Northeastern took its toll, 2 starter level players are transferring. LOL

Mar 29, 2019 10:15 AM #144

Some of the bigger names yesterday on the move.

Jadon LeDee of Ohio St, 6'9. Ranked #103 in 2018 class. Didn't play much this year.

Huggy gets rid of another. Andrew Gordon. West Virginia down to 8 guys including recruits

Tim Delaney leaving Villanova. Didn't play much.

Mar 29, 2019 10:16 AM #145

I'd imagine the list hits over 450 by end of Friday. Well on the way to 1,000 transfers by end of this

Mar 29, 2019 06:10 PM #146

John Petty didn't last long on the transfer list. Plans to return to Alabama to play under Nate Oats.

Wonder if Kira Lewis will do the same.

Mar 29, 2019 06:27 PM #147

@BeddieKU23 That's a heartbreaker ... (Tom, John, what's the difference?)

Mar 29, 2019 07:24 PM #148

@HighEliteMajor weak!

Mar 30, 2019 06:09 PM #149

Charlie Moore has enter his name in to the transfer portal

Mar 30, 2019 06:12 PM #150

JAYHAWKFAN214 said:

Charlie Moore has enter his name in to the transfer portal

Probably good for all parties.

Mar 30, 2019 06:27 PM #151

You could see that coming. Let’s hope we can fill his scholarship with someone that ca actually you know shoot!

Mar 30, 2019 07:01 PM #152

It’s possible we only return 5 guys from this years group... Depends on KJ and Grimes. Pretty much a guarantee we will be adding someone who gets significant minutes in the next couple of months

Mar 30, 2019 07:08 PM #153

Kcmatt7 said:

It’s possible we only return 5 guys from this years group... Depends on KJ and Grimes. Pretty much a guarantee we will be adding someone who gets significant minutes in the next couple of months

If we only have 5 guys returning we will be adding 5 guys who can play big minutes at least

Mar 30, 2019 08:23 PM #154

HighEliteMajor said:

@BeddieKU23 That's a heartbreaker ... (Tom, John, what's the difference?)

Lol. Got me with that one.

Apr 01, 2019 10:07 AM #155

Some of the bigger names from the Weekend. Slow, should pick up again this week

DJ Harvey- Notre Dame. Struggled with shoulder injury. 3rd leading scorer at 10ppg.

Joey Brunk- Butler. Big man started most of the season but lost favor late. Grad transfer

Charlie Moore- KU

Apr 01, 2019 03:58 PM #156

Any word on self going to the nba? I’ve been out of the loop for awhile.

Apr 01, 2019 04:10 PM #157

rockchalkwyo said:

Any word on self going to the nba? I’ve been out of the loop for awhile.

There has been some rumblings that if the Spurs job opens after this year that KU fans should be nervous.

Soren Petro mentioned it this morning on his radio show that he has heard people talking about it and I have had someone mention it to me.

Personally I just don't think he would leave under these circumstances.

Apr 01, 2019 05:50 PM #158

Lamont West headed to the Valley, Missouri State.

Apr 01, 2019 08:18 PM #159

@BShark Interesting.... I think that we'll have a defection or two this year, which is fine (add a couple grad transfers). Get ready for - it is seeming more and more likely - KU to bring (my band name for them) Big Dave and The Precious Hurt next season..... Stay tuned....

Apr 01, 2019 08:45 PM #160

Marco said:

@BShark Interesting.... I think that we'll have a defection or two this year, which is fine (add a couple grad transfers). Get ready for - it is seeming more and more likely - KU to bring (my band name for them) Big Dave and The Precious Hurt next season..... Stay tuned....

If Self pulls that off...WOW.

Apr 01, 2019 09:38 PM #161

@BShark

He can sell it but can he buy it...

Apr 01, 2019 11:58 PM #162

David Jenkins is transferring from SDSU. 6’2 guard who averaged 20 points a game and shoots 45% from 3.

Apr 02, 2019 12:37 AM #163

KU going after: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/daniel-utomi-1.html ↗

Apr 02, 2019 03:09 AM #164

@BShark grad transfer?

Apr 02, 2019 03:25 AM #165

Yes.

Apr 02, 2019 09:23 AM #166

BShark said:

KU going after: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/daniel-utomi-1.html ↗

Smart move here. Lots of programs interested as well

Apr 02, 2019 11:48 AM #167

List approaching 500.

Bigger names yesterday: David Jenkins Jr- South Dakota St, Isiah Washington- Minnesota.

Quentin Aldesh (grad transfer) lands at USC. PG averaged 13 ppg at Columbia. Good 3 point shooter.

Apr 02, 2019 01:09 PM #168

BeddieKU23 said:

Isiah Washington- Minnesota.

Makes Garrett look like Ray Allen.

Apr 02, 2019 01:32 PM #169

Woodrow said:

David Jenkins is transferring from SDSU. 6’2 guard who averaged 20 points a game and shoots 45% from 3.

On 247 attempts. Would take in a heartbeat

Apr 02, 2019 10:57 PM #170

BeddieKU23 said:

Woodrow said:

David Jenkins is transferring from SDSU. 6’2 guard who averaged 20 points a game and shoots 45% from 3.

On 247 attempts. Would take in a heartbeat

KU has made contact

Apr 02, 2019 11:04 PM #171

KU getting involved with Tucker

Apr 02, 2019 11:20 PM #172

FarmerJayhawk said:

KU getting involved with Tucker

This would be my top choice.

Apr 03, 2019 12:09 AM #173

Apr 03, 2019 12:10 AM #174

BShark said:

Pass

Apr 03, 2019 12:22 AM #175

was listening on the sports program here in Topeka today. - -They were talking about the KU needs and roster for next year.

They were saying they didn't really know why Silvio was Still sticking around then said UNLESS KU was feeling good about the appeal. - - saying that usuall the way in the past that it's seems when there is some kind of thing going on with players and if KU just felt there wasn't any future - -they be like - -go, - -go get your money - wouldn't try and blow smoke up their ass - just flat and would come out and tell them go get theirs - -but IF by some chance -- like I said they are feeling god about any from the NCAA - could be the reason he is STILL hanging around - -saying THIS is REALLY where Silvio wants to be - -saying he loves it here - - wants to be here -I dunno - -not really reading a lot in to it - - but I mean in a way has a valid point - -we shall see. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Apr 03, 2019 12:26 AM #176

FarmerJayhawk said:

KU getting involved with Tucker

Sounds like us an everyone else.

Apr 03, 2019 01:42 AM #177

@BShark with this kid coming from a smaller school/progam who never makes it to the tournament, KU should be his top choice. Seeing as how bad we need him, and he will get his minutes, and be in the spot light for the next step in his career. We have the longest active streak of making it. What is it, 30 years? We lost the consecutive conference streak but I do know we still and will have that streak.

Apr 03, 2019 01:44 AM #178

That’s for David Jenkins. Sorry I’m new to this

Apr 03, 2019 01:57 AM #179

Bear in mind Jenkins is not eligible to play next year, has to sit out. So he'd be a long term addition.

He isn't w/o issue. Very poor defender, not a great athlete and had a Dedric like usage rate this year.

Apr 03, 2019 02:33 AM #180

Oh really? I thought if there’s a coaching change that there’s a chance for eligibility for the next year.

Apr 03, 2019 02:56 AM #181

He will still have to sit out, guaranteed. There was a coaching change though.

Apr 03, 2019 11:07 AM #182

BShark said:

Bear in mind Jenkins is not eligible to play next year, has to sit out. So he'd be a long term addition.

He isn't w/o issue. Very poor defender, not a great athlete and had a Dedric like usage rate this year.

Big time shooter and shot maker though.

Apr 03, 2019 11:08 AM #183

updated original post to include players KU has officially reached out to.

Apr 03, 2019 11:23 AM #184

Not much from yesterday..

Max Hazzard- UC Irvine transfer. Was the key to beating Kansas St in the first round of the NCAA tourney. Lead the team in scoring and made 93 3's this season.

Apr 03, 2019 01:51 PM #185

Least surprising news ever.

Apr 03, 2019 02:16 PM #186

@BShark

He checked out after what 2 weeks into the season. Not a player you want until he grows up

Apr 03, 2019 02:57 PM #187

Would not be shocked to see Blackshear grad transfer.

Apr 03, 2019 04:04 PM #188

BeddieKU23 said:

@BShark

He checked out after what 2 weeks into the season. Not a player you want until he grows up

This. Dude is a locker room disaster. And lazy to boot.

Apr 03, 2019 04:06 PM #189

Kcmatt7 said:

Would not be shocked to see Blackshear grad transfer.

Would take Dedric Lawson 2.0 with some hops anyday

Apr 03, 2019 05:45 PM #190

Who?

Apr 03, 2019 05:47 PM #191

@BShark Blackshear. No word on him doing it. But he's a RS Junior so you'd think he could if he wasn't going to just go pro.

Apr 03, 2019 05:48 PM #192

Kcmatt7 said:

@BShark Blackshear. No word on him doing it. But he's a RS Junior so you'd think he could if he wasn't going to just go pro.

There are multiple players with this name. VT kid?

Apr 03, 2019 05:48 PM #193

@BShark Oh yea.

Apr 03, 2019 05:48 PM #194

Would definitely take.

Apr 04, 2019 10:55 AM #195

Names from yesterday. Nothing excitable

Jahvon Quinerly - Villanova Diva

Anthony Mack- Miami

Malik Ellison- Pitt

Jake Forrester- Indiana

Justice Sueing- Cal

Lamarr Kimble- St Joseph's 15ppg

Apr 04, 2019 11:06 AM #196

BeddieKU23 said:

Kcmatt7 said:

Would not be shocked to see Blackshear grad transfer.

Would take Dedric Lawson 2.0 with some hops anyday

Yes pls

Apr 04, 2019 01:54 PM #197

@approxinfinity

Its scary how similar their season's were. Blackshear is a better athlete

!0_1554386355352_upload-14fe8345-6ebf-4b62-8156-6b33b2c81959 ↗

Apr 04, 2019 04:37 PM #198

NATE SESTINA IS ON UK TEAM NEXT YEAR

Apr 04, 2019 08:38 PM #199

GOODNEWS KPEGEOL IS TRANSFER FROM KSU

Apr 04, 2019 09:39 PM #200

K.J. LAWSON HAS ENTERED HIS NAME IN THE TRANSFER PORTAL

Apr 04, 2019 10:07 PM #201

Jenkins is friends with DG I believe so I wouldn't be shocked to see him here. KJ's news is a little surprising from the stand point of him getting married this summer. I figured he'd be done with ball or stay. I guess he can be a grad transfer if he gets it done. I would also think that means Dedric is prob leaving as well.

Apr 04, 2019 10:10 PM #202

kjayhawks said:

Jenkins is friends with DG I believe so I wouldn't be shocked to see him here. KJ's news is a little surprising from the stand point of him getting married this summer. I figured he'd be done with ball or stay. I guess he can be a grad transfer if he gets it done. I would also think that means Dedric is prob leaving as well.

YES KJ IS A GRAD TRANSFER

Apr 04, 2019 10:11 PM #203

@JAYHAWKFAN214 He will be if he graduates, he is supposedly on coarse to.

Apr 04, 2019 11:51 PM #204

Perfect.

Now, everyone pray Doke has a change of heart and comes back and Silvio wins his appeal.

Apr 04, 2019 11:59 PM #205

Kcmatt7 said:

Perfect.

Now, everyone pray Doke has a change of heart and comes back and Silvio wins his appeal.

Honestly, I'm pretty okay with this.

Apr 05, 2019 12:33 AM #206

With kj leaving it’ll make room for hurt. Of course I wish kj the best.

Apr 05, 2019 01:23 AM #207

@Kcmatt7 I dont see KJ or Charlie hurting us much, Dedric will some depending on SDS's appeal.

Apr 05, 2019 02:55 PM #208

Oh I didn’t mean that as a bad thing. Like I’m actually happy he’s leaving. He’s awful. So far the offseason has gone exactly as I had hoped/thought to start

Apr 05, 2019 11:02 PM #209

chris clarke, wabissa bede transferring from vt possibly.

Apr 06, 2019 01:16 PM #210

Thomas Allen to NC State.

Apr 06, 2019 01:34 PM #211

I hear a rumor that Rayjon Tucker was visited by KU last night.

Apr 06, 2019 01:45 PM #212

dylans said:

I hear a rumor that Rayjon Tucker was visited by KU last night.

Stealth visit. :O

Apr 06, 2019 01:48 PM #213

BShark said:

Thomas Allen to NC State.

I knew this for a few days. Adidas has always taken care of him

Apr 06, 2019 09:20 PM #214

dylans said:

I hear a rumor that Rayjon Tucker was visited by KU last night.

He's such a perfect fit at the wing. My gods. Shooting, athleticism, and experience with the system (from Dooley). He just really needs to crank it up on the defensive end, which is definitely doable given Self's expectations and Tucker not having to get every bucket.

Apr 07, 2019 11:10 PM #215

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article228806039.htm ↗

Here’s a link that’s a few days old and I’m sure it’s old news for you guys, but it’s about Chalmers and potential future recruitment and transfers interested in KU.

Apr 08, 2019 12:55 AM #216

rockchalkwyo said:

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article228806039.htm ↗

Here’s a link that’s a few days old and I’m sure it’s old news for you guys, but it’s about Chalmers and potential future recruitment and transfers interested in KU.

I can't get this link to work for some reason.

Apr 08, 2019 01:09 AM #217

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article228806039.html ↗

Let’s try that

Apr 08, 2019 01:48 AM #218

BShark said:

rockchalkwyo said:

https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article228806039.htm ↗

Here’s a link that’s a few days old and I’m sure it’s old news for you guys, but it’s about Chalmers and potential future recruitment and transfers interested in KU.

I can't get this link to work for some reason.

me neither

Apr 08, 2019 02:24 AM #219

No new info. Just we’re interested in Tucker, Utomi, and the SDSU kid

Apr 08, 2019 11:27 AM #220

FarmerJayhawk said:

No new info. Just we’re interested in Tucker, Utomi, and the SDSU kid

KU and UNC are going to be battling for some guys here. Similar needs

Apr 08, 2019 10:55 PM #221

JON ROTHSTEIN@JONROTHSTEIN 5M
KIRA LEWIS IS RETURNING TO ALABAMA NEXTSEASON AND WILL NOT TRANSFER , PER HIS TWITTER PAGE HUG NEWS FOR NATE OATS.

Apr 09, 2019 02:39 PM #222

Admon Gilder will be a grad transfer from A&M.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3947074/admon-gilder ↗

Apr 09, 2019 03:02 PM #223

Woodrow said:

Admon Gilder will be a grad transfer from A&M.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/3947074/admon-gilder ↗

Would take.

Apr 10, 2019 12:52 AM #224

Another fun one https://247sports.com/Player/Antwann-Jones-84365/ ↗

Apr 11, 2019 06:50 PM #225

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/jordan-brown-1852#school-interests ↗

Former top 15 player Jordan Brown is transferring from Nevada.

Apr 11, 2019 07:21 PM #226

Woodrow said:

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2018/jordan-brown-1852#school-interests ↗

Former top 15 player Jordan Brown is transferring from Nevada.

Top 15 and couldn't get tick at Nevada. 2018 was such a rancid class.

Apr 11, 2019 07:30 PM #227

@Woodrow my wife is a Nevada fan and made me watch their games. Jordon brown in my opinion is nothing KU should go after for. He’s probably looking at Arkansas anyway.

Apr 12, 2019 01:13 AM #228

TJ Holyfield will officially visit KU.

Apr 12, 2019 02:43 AM #229

This transfer business is like the mafia, once you think we're out, they pull us back in. Causes the potential for massive attrition when the transfers don't stick around, making the staff need to get more transfers to stagger the open rosters with various classes and a decent depth of talent last minute.

Round and round we go.

Apr 12, 2019 11:38 AM #230

approxinfinity said:

This transfer business is like the mafia, once you think we're out, they pull us back in. Causes the potential for massive attrition when the transfers don't stick around, making the staff need to get more transfers to stagger the open rosters with various classes and a decent depth of talent last minute.

Round and round we go.

Sort of. I mean there is no way they thought we’d be without Silvio next year. The entire FBI thing has absolutely killed us.

Apr 12, 2019 12:36 PM #231

Kcmatt7 said:
The entire FBI thing has absolutely killed us.

And @Kcmatt7 with the understatement of the year ... what a mess this has been.

Apr 12, 2019 12:40 PM #232

HighEliteMajor said:

Kcmatt7 said:
The entire FBI thing has absolutely killed us.

And @Kcmatt7 with the understatement of the year ... what a mess this has been.

The only positive I can take from it is that it pissed Bill Self off enough to basically say he is going to be here awhile.

Apr 12, 2019 02:27 PM #233

Next year might be rough.

Apr 12, 2019 02:40 PM #234

@BShark Optimistically speaking, at least the 7 guys that we know will be on the roster next season are a good mix position-wise. We need to find 2 starters still though.

Apr 12, 2019 02:53 PM #235

Kcmatt7 said:

@BShark Optimistically speaking, at least the 7 guys that we know will be on the roster next season are a good mix position-wise. We need to find 2 starters still though.

we need frontline help - - -BAD

Apr 12, 2019 03:54 PM #236

Lots of minutes for a 2 and a 4. It may be hard to recruit the 4/5 spot with McCormack starting late and Dok/SDS still on the roster. If Dok comes back 🤞 that’ll nail down the 5 spot though.

SIlvio’s plight is more interesting though. He is athletic and gaining experience in the system. I’m hopeful, though doubtful he gets some eligibility back for the second half of next season. If he’s on the roster he will drive away recruits, so there is major risk associated with Silvio as well.

Apr 12, 2019 04:11 PM #237

I'm optimistic Doke returns. Last I knew the staff didn't know whether he'd be back or not. KU is also well positioned with Hampton, Achiwua, and Dante. Also have a shot at TJ Holyfield, Rayjon Tucker, Daniel Utomi, and Tristan Enaruna.

Apr 12, 2019 04:26 PM #238

@FarmerJayhawk Once concern I have for Doke returning .. we focus all of our preseason efforts on feeding the post and playing through Doke. And then, when we get in a game with a team that plays small, Self lets the other team dictate the style of play and we're in the same spot we've been in much of the time. And, of course, while I'm sure he's been "really working hard" on free throws, he'll be less than 50% again. Actually less than 40%. He was worse last season after supposed work than the year before.

Apr 12, 2019 04:38 PM #239

@HighEliteMajor If Doke comes back next year, his free throw shooting will be so bad they'll actually take points away from us every time he steps to the line.....

Apr 12, 2019 05:00 PM #240

HighEliteMajor said:

@FarmerJayhawk Once concern I have for Doke returning .. we focus all of our preseason efforts on feeding the post and playing through Doke. And then, when we get in a game with a team that plays small, Self lets the other team dictate the style of play and we're in the same spot we've been in much of the time. And, of course, while I'm sure he's been "really working hard" on free throws, he'll be less than 50% again. Actually less than 40%. He was worse last season after supposed work than the year before.

To be fair, we didn’t lose a game with Doke this season. And we didn’t exactly play a softball schedule. And we made a FF built around him with a 4 out run and gun.

Doke is a stud. A defensive presence and an incredibly efficient scorer.

Apr 12, 2019 05:25 PM #241

Kcmatt7 said:

HighEliteMajor said:

@FarmerJayhawk Once concern I have for Doke returning .. we focus all of our preseason efforts on feeding the post and playing through Doke. And then, when we get in a game with a team that plays small, Self lets the other team dictate the style of play and we're in the same spot we've been in much of the time. And, of course, while I'm sure he's been "really working hard" on free throws, he'll be less than 50% again. Actually less than 40%. He was worse last season after supposed work than the year before.

To be fair, we didn’t lose a game with Doke this season. And we didn’t exactly play a softball schedule. And we made a FF built around him with a 4 out run and gun.

Doke is a stud. A defensive presence and an incredibly efficient scorer.

This. We were absolutely rolling with Doke last season. He's just such a weapon on both ends in spite of all his flaws. He's a huge upgrade over McCormack, who shot 60% from the line, not exactly a knockdown shooter.

Apr 12, 2019 07:32 PM #242

Ok, so we know we don't have near the talent we did in 2017-18, right? Not even close.

And when we won with Doke, we also had a relatively fully functioning Legerald Vick who had some out of his mind games. Probably fair to say we lose at least two early without him.

Getting Doke back is probably our only best hope.

But I do have the one concern I mentioned.

Apr 12, 2019 10:38 PM #243

regarding Doke's free throw shooting... didn't the doctors insert a tiny device during his wrist surgery that can flick the ball with precise force to reach the basket from the foul line? He just has to hold his arm straight...

Apr 15, 2019 05:49 PM #244

The Hauser brothers are transferring from Marquette. Both very solid players...

Apr 15, 2019 05:49 PM #245

?s=21

Apr 15, 2019 05:52 PM #246

@Woodrow wow!

Apr 15, 2019 06:28 PM #247

Woodrow said:

The Hauser brothers are transferring from Marquette. Both very solid players...

ya being said probably Villanova bound - -maybe Michigan State

Apr 15, 2019 07:14 PM #248

BIG time transfers right there.

Apr 15, 2019 07:47 PM #249

BShark said:

BIG time transfers right there.

Yup, one play, one sits right

Apr 15, 2019 07:52 PM #250

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

BIG time transfers right there.

Yup, one play, one sits right

Both sit actually.

Apr 15, 2019 08:48 PM #251

They would fit here though. Sounds like they didn’t want to play with Howard again. Just wanted to play good team basketball, not watch Howard play hero ball.

Apr 16, 2019 03:15 PM #252

Transfer list over 650. Crazy

Apr 16, 2019 05:47 PM #253

Kcmatt7 said:

They would fit here though. Sounds like they didn’t want to play with Howard again. Just wanted to play good team basketball, not watch Howard play hero ball.

Bill should give them a call if this is the case.

Apr 16, 2019 05:48 PM #254

Kerry Blackshear evaluating both grad transfer and pro options.

Apr 16, 2019 05:50 PM #255

FarmerJayhawk said:

Kerry Blackshear evaluating both grad transfer and pro options.

He would be the kind of addition that would make KU super salty next year. Hope KU gets involved.

Apr 16, 2019 05:52 PM #256

No reason not to at this point. He's better than Hurt will be.

Apr 16, 2019 05:53 PM #257

FarmerJayhawk said:

No reason not to at this point. He's better than Hurt will be.

Absolutely. He is better than any HS SR KU could add at this pt.

Apr 16, 2019 06:09 PM #258

pay him whatever he wants to come here. I posted the comparison of stats between him and Lawson. Almost identical

Apr 16, 2019 06:13 PM #259

BeddieKU23 said:

pay him whatever he wants to come here. I posted the comparison of stats between him and Lawson. Almost identical

Did it in the ACC and slightly better advanced numbers.

But yeah, w/e it takes.

Apr 16, 2019 06:17 PM #260

@BShark

He didn't have as much usage as Lawson which was the only real difference. D Law had to carry a larger role then Blackshear did at Tech. Pretty much everything else was almost spot on. Would be a huge difference maker next year

Apr 16, 2019 06:19 PM #261

Blackshear is much tougher

Apr 16, 2019 06:32 PM #262

@Crimsonorblue22

Can jump too

Apr 16, 2019 06:56 PM #263

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Blackshear is much tougher

Most definitely my friend. - -I really don't think we got much chance here but doesn't hurt to try. - -What do we got to lose at this point? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Apr 16, 2019 07:15 PM #264

Seems like KU has a real good shot at Holyfield fwiw.

Apr 16, 2019 07:17 PM #265

BShark said:

Seems like KU has a real good shot at Holyfield fwiw.

well that may not be such a bad thing right?

Apr 16, 2019 07:17 PM #266

BShark said:

Seems like KU has a real good shot at Holyfield fwiw.

Agreed. I think he's best as a utility man off the bench. Bring back Doke, get Blackshear, sign Holyfield as the first big off the bench. Prosper.

Apr 16, 2019 07:17 PM #267

jayballer73 said:

BShark said:

Seems like KU has a real good shot at Holyfield fwiw.

well that may not be such a bad thing right?

Would be a high quality addition imo. We need some dudes in the front court for sure.

Apr 16, 2019 07:19 PM #268

FarmerJayhawk said:

BShark said:

Seems like KU has a real good shot at Holyfield fwiw.

Agreed. I think he's best as a utility man off the bench. Bring back Doke, get Blackshear, sign Holyfield as the first big off the bench. Prosper.

I would stab someone in a dark back alley to make this happen. :eyes:

Apr 16, 2019 07:46 PM #269

@BShark that's why you are in prison!🥵

Apr 17, 2019 12:30 AM #270

Akron grad transfer Daniel Otumi is headed to USC

Apr 17, 2019 12:33 AM #271

Blackshear is much tougher

@Crimsonorblue22 So’s my 3 year old. 😂

Apr 17, 2019 01:04 AM #272

To be honest, I'm just hoping for a couple more frosh (even 4 star) signees, a grad transfer and two jucos at this point and I'd be happy. SDS needs to leave, his appeal will be denied, the NCAA is going to make an example of him. But if anything were going to happen to Self, the program and the university he would have been ruled permanently ineligible. Did it hurt us (pun intended)? Yes. But we'll be back, sooner - next year - rather than later.

Apr 17, 2019 11:06 AM #273

Utomi to USC makes zero sense.

Apr 17, 2019 11:09 AM #274

BShark said:

Seems like KU has a real good shot at Holyfield fwiw.

you don't say???

Apr 17, 2019 02:34 PM #275

Let's keep track, shall we? JRE, gone elsewhere. Williamson, gone elsewhere. Hall, ditto. Hurt, yep, gone elsewhere. Three out of those 4 along with Braun and McBride sure would've been nice. We dropped the ball bigtime in recruiting this year. Hell, Hall and Williamson were all but begging to be Jayhawks, and I think JRE bolted due to our infatuation with Hurt. Let's hope that coach Self has learned something (regardless of whether we land Precious and Hampton at this point) from all of this. I sure as the hell have.

Apr 17, 2019 02:40 PM #276

Marco said:

Let's keep track, shall we? JRE, gone elsewhere. Williamson, gone elsewhere. Hall, ditto. Hurt, yep, gone elsewhere. Three out of those 4 along with Braun and McBride sure would've been nice. We dropped the ball bigtime in recruiting this year. Hell, Hall and Williamson were all but begging to be Jayhawks, and I think JRE bolted due to our infatuation with Hurt. Let's hope that coach Self has learned something (regardless of whether we land Precious and Hampton at this point) from all of this. I sure as the hell have.

The rumor is that Self screwed the pooch with Sam by pushing too hard for a commitment on the visit. Ticked off his mom.

With JRE his mom is part of one of the absolute biggest KU families there is. It seems likely to me that they might have bought into the Self leaving rumors that were hot and heavy and that could be a big reason we lost JRE.

Missing on two legacy recruits is pretty rough for sure.

Definitely didn't show enough interest in Hall.

Apr 17, 2019 03:10 PM #277

@BShark Sorry, what "Sam" are you referring to?

Apr 17, 2019 03:13 PM #278

Recruiting this year has been depressing af. Legacy misses. Top target missed. USA Basketball bearing no fruit. Duke is going to steal Stanley away last minute. We clearly wasted time on guys like Wiseman we knew we had no shot at.

Really just an all around suckfest.

Apr 17, 2019 03:16 PM #279

HighEliteMajor said:

@BShark Sorry, what "Sam" are you referring to?

Sam Williamson, ended up at Louisville.

Apr 17, 2019 03:18 PM #280

Kcmatt7 said:

Recruiting this year has been depressing af. Legacy misses. Top target missed. USA Basketball bearing no fruit. Duke is going to steal Stanley away last minute. We clearly wasted time on guys like Wiseman we knew we had no shot at.

Yeah it's a steaming pile, hopefully Self salvages something.

On the last part, I never understood it. I guess because Self ended up with Wiggins and Josh he feels he has to try in any recruitment.

Apr 17, 2019 03:23 PM #281

@BShark I guess. You just knew that we were out of that one from the second they hired Penny. I would have been fine going head to head with just Cal. But there was just too much pressure on the kid to stay home.

I bet Self really wishes he would have just given Nnadji what he wanted now though...

Apr 17, 2019 03:25 PM #282

Crazy to think Will Wade got reinstated. Was really hoping to poach some LSU and Arizona guys.

Apr 17, 2019 03:34 PM #283

@BShark Yes. And Wiggins and Josh had such a huge impact on the University of Kansas. He should definitely try diligently to get more of those types of players................

Apr 17, 2019 03:44 PM #284

nuleafjhawk said:

@BShark Yes. And Wiggins and Josh had such a huge impact on the University of Kansas. He should definitely try diligently to get more of those types of players................

Very nice, my friend.

Apr 17, 2019 04:13 PM #285

@BShark where's the 1000 % emoji when you need it

Apr 17, 2019 05:00 PM #286

nuleafjhawk said:

@BShark Yes. And Wiggins and Josh had such a huge impact on the University of Kansas. He should definitely try diligently to get more of those types of players................

Just think about the counterfactual of not having Wiggins or Josh and who we'd run out there. Starting Brannen Greene and Carlton Bragg all year would not be ideal.

Apr 17, 2019 05:03 PM #287

@FarmerJayhawk The Josh year would have majorly sucked without him.

Apr 17, 2019 05:47 PM #288

Kcmatt7 said:

Recruiting this year has been depressing af. Legacy misses. Top target missed. USA Basketball bearing no fruit. Duke is going to steal Stanley away last minute. We clearly wasted time on guys like Wiseman we knew we had no shot at.

Really just an all around suckfest.

Sums it up perfectly.

A real suckstorm

Apr 17, 2019 06:04 PM #289

@BShark, @FarmerJayhawk Josh was a good guy, good player. 31-5 is not bad for a lot of teams...

My point is - hang on to your seats - i don't like the whole idea of OAD's. Wiggins is a prime example. If you watched that whole season, most of the time you were looking at whomever you were watching the game with and asking them, or yourself "why isn't this guy playing 100%? Is he hurt? Is he lazy? Is he protecting the goods?

I never got that feeling from JJ. He was a ball player. He hustled. He got his teammates involved. He was fun to watch. Ever wonder where we'd be if he were a senior this year? Oh My!!

Apr 17, 2019 06:07 PM #290

We'd be hanging a banner with a SR Josh and everything else being equal but in that theoretical world more short term players would be staying in college I imagine.

Apr 17, 2019 07:56 PM #291

@BShark said "more short term players would be staying in college I imagine."

I never really thought about that. Shoot yeah. 18 year olds are pretty impressionable. So, if Zion had stayed this year, it might have sparked a whole new generation of kids who think "it must be cool to stay in college - Zion did it!".

Dang you Zion.

Apr 17, 2019 09:52 PM #292

Ku has reached out to St. John's transfer LJ Figueroa. Averaged 14ppg 6 boards this past season. Former top 100 recruit

Apr 17, 2019 10:02 PM #293

@FarmerJayhawk I'd still like to think about a season with a healthy embiid! Wiggs was also our best defender.

Apr 17, 2019 11:12 PM #294

BeddieKU23 said:

Ku has reached out to St. John's transfer LJ Figueroa. Averaged 14ppg 6 boards this past season. Former top 100 recruit

Wouldn't help next year (has to sit) but would be a great addition.

58% from 2, 38% from 3.

Apr 17, 2019 11:31 PM #295

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

Ku has reached out to St. John's transfer LJ Figueroa. Averaged 14ppg 6 boards this past season. Former top 100 recruit

Wouldn't help next year (has to sit) but would be a great addition.

58% from 2, 38% from 3.

He is a good sized wing. Can shoot. Just saying he can shoot is an upgrade. I'd love for him to be one of the transfers we land. Who knows though.

Apr 18, 2019 02:12 PM #296

Jemarl Baker Jr is transferring from Kentucky. Sat his freshman year with knee Injury. Didn't see a ton of action as a freshman but he did play well in the NCAA tournament. Kid can shoot it. Would be an intriguing sit-out candidate

Apr 18, 2019 02:40 PM #297

BeddieKU23 said:

Jemarl Baker Jr is transferring from Kentucky. Sat his freshman year with knee Injury. Didn't see a ton of action as a freshman but he did play well in the NCAA tournament. Kid can shoot it. Would be an intriguing sit-out candidate

Pass.

Apr 18, 2019 03:19 PM #298

Hell no.

Apr 18, 2019 03:23 PM #299

@Kcmatt7 @BShark

How come??

Apr 18, 2019 11:37 PM #300

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/26555845/source-texas-tech-moore-hits-transfer-portal ↗

Apr 19, 2019 11:25 AM #301

BeddieKU23 said:

@Kcmatt7 @BShark

How come??

I just think he sucks from everything I watched this season.

Apr 19, 2019 11:28 AM #302

@FarmerJayhawk

Wow, no wonder Beard was still cruitin 2019 class and transfers.

Found it odd he didn't play this year even knowing he was injured. Wonder where he lands, I'd assume in the SEC

Apr 19, 2019 05:02 PM #303

Austin Trice is transferring from KSU. Iirc Frazier brought him in so VT could be the spot.

Apr 22, 2019 02:01 PM #304

Well maybe we will hear something before long as possible transfer coming to join JayHawk Nation.

Tristan Enaruna - -is suppose to make his visit on the 28th of April and then - - -TJ Holyfield is suppose to be making a visit really soon.

Holyfield 6'8 - - - has Illinois - - - Miami - - - Oregon - - Texas Tech - and Ku as his 5 Schools. - He Visited Texas Tech this past weekend on Saturday and stated he was following his visit right up with them - -to visit KU.

Pretty decent shooter , shot 54.8 % - -from the field - - - 41% - -from the 3 pt - - and a 74.8 Free Throw shooter. - - so maybe a possibility between these two - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Apr 22, 2019 02:59 PM #305

Well I guess actually Holyfield is on the KU campus today. Has already visited Miami - -and then visited Tech this past weekend. - Still has visits to Oregon & IllInois - maybe we can pull him in. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Apr 22, 2019 03:30 PM #306

jayballer73 said:

Well I guess actually Holyfield is on the KU campus today. Has already visited Miami - -and then visited Tech this past weekend. - Still has visits to Oregon & IllInois - maybe we can pull him in. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Correct. Trying to close on him before visiting those last two would be massive. Don't want him to make the ILL visit especially if possible.

Apr 22, 2019 04:08 PM #307

TCU has taken 2 sit-out transfers already. Keonte Kennedy of Xavier and Kevin Easley Jr of Chattanooga. Interesting choices

Apr 23, 2019 01:24 PM #308

https://watchstadium.com/news/ranking-the-best-transfers-in-college-basketball-this-offseason-04-22-2019/ ↗

Apr 23, 2019 02:42 PM #309

Kerry Blackshear -"Extremely high basketball IQ, can rebound in his area, has a mean streak and toughness about him.”

This is the only guy I want. Smart and mean. Bring it.

Apr 23, 2019 04:24 PM #310

@nuleafjhawk #1 rated transfer of the 800+. I want him too. Guess who’s ranked #2....Tucker.

Apr 23, 2019 05:02 PM #311

Looks like the Hauser brothers from Marquette are visiting Wisconsin, Virginia, Iowa, and Michigan st.

Apr 23, 2019 05:06 PM #312

Woodrow said:

Looks like the Hauser brothers from Marquette are visiting Wisconsin, Virginia, Iowa, and Michigan st.

They have to sit, but they can really shoot it.

Apr 23, 2019 06:09 PM #313

@dylans He would be fine - as long as he's 6'10", 250# and has a mean streak.....

I REALLY want a "mean streak" guy. Kansas is getting a reputation for being "soft". It's true.

Do they keep stats for technicals? I want to lead the country in technicals.

Apr 23, 2019 07:04 PM #314

Transfer List has hit over 700 officially. No end to the madness.

Arizona picks up Kansas St killer Max Hazzard. Have no idea why he went there with Mannion, Josh Green, Williams and more on the roster.

Apr 23, 2019 07:19 PM #315

@nuleafjhawk Soft? Not a long term problem as I recall.
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Apr 23, 2019 07:27 PM #316

@dylans Maybe it's just my perception. I want hard nosed, Russ Robinson, Jerod Haase, T-Rob kind of players. Well, they all played their butts off, hard nosed players, but really I'd like a couple of guys that the other team would GULP and maybe pee themselves just a little when they stepped out on the court.

I mean, so maybe they've done a little time, maybe they had really, really good lawyers and they have multiple tattoos - - cut that part - - - every player in the NCAA has multiple tattoos (so do i ) - but you know what I mean.

No nonsense, intimidating, DUNKING - instead of layups, swat the ball into the stands (even when it makes more sense to tip it to another player) - guys that just command respect and a little bit of fear.

Apr 23, 2019 07:36 PM #317

@nuleafjhawk I think you're on to something. A lot of soft layups off the glass. Dedric didn't bring that attitude. Grimes certainly not. I think Vick and Doke did, and I think Dotson and Agbagi did too. But tough is good. Tarik Black mode. Good dude, but a bad a**.

Apr 25, 2019 05:41 PM #318

Seventh Woods leaving UNC. Big disappointment for them.

Could see Dooley or Martin get him I think he'll be a solid contributor somewhere.

Apr 25, 2019 06:13 PM #319

Kcmatt7 said:

Seventh Woods leaving UNC. Big disappointment for them.

Could see Dooley or Martin get him I think he'll be a solid contributor somewhere.

Can't blame him honestly. He's been recruited over every year he's been at UNC. Honestly if he's a grad transfer I wouldn't mind taking him just for depth. We really lack ball handlers (among other things) right now.

Apr 25, 2019 06:26 PM #320

FarmerJayhawk said:

Kcmatt7 said:

Seventh Woods leaving UNC. Big disappointment for them.

Could see Dooley or Martin get him I think he'll be a solid contributor somewhere.

Can't blame him honestly. He's been recruited over every year he's been at UNC. Honestly if he's a grad transfer I wouldn't mind taking him just for depth. We really lack ball handlers (among other things) right now.

Given UNC's rigorous course work...maybe!

Apr 25, 2019 06:45 PM #321

Makes sense after UNC got 2 Top 100 kids on the perimeter in one day.

Apr 25, 2019 06:49 PM #322

BShark said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

Kcmatt7 said:

Seventh Woods leaving UNC. Big disappointment for them.

Could see Dooley or Martin get him I think he'll be a solid contributor somewhere.

Can't blame him honestly. He's been recruited over every year he's been at UNC. Honestly if he's a grad transfer I wouldn't mind taking him just for depth. We really lack ball handlers (among other things) right now.

Given UNC's rigorous course work...maybe!

If it's not rigorous, that's news to my students! UNC has done a lot to ensure that doesn't happen. The university randomly audits courses now to make sure we're all doing what we're supposed to. I can't even let undergrads out of class more than 5 minutes early. If the university found out they could fire me. It's kind of wild

Apr 25, 2019 06:57 PM #323

@FarmerJayhawk so what’s the inside poop on UNC??? Holding out on us? 😝

Apr 25, 2019 11:05 PM #324

@FarmerJayhawk And that started when?

Apr 25, 2019 11:09 PM #325

@dylans Everyone is trying their damndest to scurry far away from the stench that is rolling in, thus Condi Rice' recommendations. All will be just fine, the NCAA cannot - though the 2-year ban on De Sousa makes you think that they are - be that stupid.

Apr 25, 2019 11:41 PM #326

JON ROTHSTEIIN @JONROTHSTEIN 13M
HIGH POINT GRAD TRANSFER JAHAAD PROCTOR TRLLS ME HE"S NOW RECEIVING INTEREST FROM KU AND KANSAS STATE RECENTLY VIDITRED PURDUE IMMEDIATELY ELIGIBLE.

Apr 25, 2019 11:50 PM #327

dylans said:

@FarmerJayhawk so what’s the inside poop on UNC??? Holding out on us? 😝

Ha! I don’t know much about athletics over here.

@Marco 5 years that I know of. Makes things a paperwork nightmare sometimes.

Apr 26, 2019 04:00 AM #328

@FarmerJayhawk Lol, I understand. I remember, both football and basketball was it not? Fixing grades or the equivalent? Which would have made for many ineligible players, yet no probation.

Apr 26, 2019 11:57 AM #329

RE Jahaad Proctor

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jahaad-proctor-1.html ↗

This will be his third school... Advanced numbers are bad defensively but that can be a total team thing.

Apr 26, 2019 12:57 PM #330

BShark said:

RE Jahaad Proctor

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jahaad-proctor-1.html ↗

This will be his third school... Advanced numbers are bad defensively but that can be a total team thing.

Yeah his D grades to Charlie Moore/Grimes territory for comparison.

Made 54% of his 2's.. Decent assists. Good FT shooter. Average 3 point shooter but his 55 makes would have been 2nd on the team. Decent size. Would take tbh

Apr 26, 2019 01:03 PM #331

https://kckingdom.com/2019/04/18/kansas-basketball-recruiting-4-transfer-portal-players-jayhawks/ ↗

What is Jalen Fisher up to? I thought he was done with basketball.

Apr 26, 2019 01:14 PM #332

@BeddieKU23 Yeah we can't be too picky.

So that's a fansided article and obviously any of those 4 would be fine but has KU even shown interest in Gilder?

Apr 26, 2019 01:21 PM #333

@BShark First time I’ve seen his name mentioned. I figure he’s not a very likely option similar to most of the names brought up here. Gotta take recruiting news with a grain of salt!

Apr 26, 2019 01:57 PM #334

Marco said:

@FarmerJayhawk Lol, I understand. I remember, both football and basketball was it not? Fixing grades or the equivalent? Which would have made for many ineligible players, yet no probation.

The grades were all legit. The classes themselves... not so much.

Apr 26, 2019 06:00 PM #335

FarmerJayhawk said:

Marco said:

@FarmerJayhawk Lol, I understand. I remember, both football and basketball was it not? Fixing grades or the equivalent? Which would have made for many ineligible players, yet no probation.

The grades were all legit. The classes themselves... not so much.

Once the UNC got to that point of fake classes offered to regular students as well, it crossed the line from an NCAA issue to a Department of Education issue that should have been investigated by the government to determine appropriate punishment and accreditation issues.

Apr 26, 2019 06:09 PM #336

Texas Hawk 10 said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

Marco said:

@FarmerJayhawk Lol, I understand. I remember, both football and basketball was it not? Fixing grades or the equivalent? Which would have made for many ineligible players, yet no probation.

The grades were all legit. The classes themselves... not so much.

Once the UNC got to that point of fake classes offered to regular students as well, it crossed the line from an NCAA issue to a Department of Education issue that should have been investigated by the government to determine appropriate punishment and accreditation issues.

Agree. Thankfully it was contained to a single department. Otherwise it would've been much, much worse and probably why the feds were just like meh.

Apr 26, 2019 08:03 PM #337

Proctor to Purdue.

Apr 26, 2019 08:28 PM #338

@FarmerJayhawk Lol.... That's what I meant. Fixing grades or the equivalent.

Apr 27, 2019 07:20 PM #339

Seems obvious KJ wants actual PT.

May 01, 2019 03:02 PM #340

TCU took its 3rd sit-out transfer in former Ohio St F Ledee. With Bane & Noi in the draft (for now) that still leaves them 1 scholly short. If they both leave TCU would have a roster consisting of 5 Sophomore's and 4 Freshman. Dixon has a tough year ahead if that happens

May 01, 2019 03:14 PM #341

@BeddieKU23 Dixon will have a tough year regardless of what happens. Then after having the tough year he will have an even tougher one after losing so many players to transfer, and then, and then, and then.

May 01, 2019 03:18 PM #342

Marco said:

@BeddieKU23 Dixon will have a tough year regardless of what happens. Then after having the tough year he will have an even tougher one after losing so many players to transfer, and then, and then, and then.

Dixon wears players out like Bill but lacks the same recruiting chops. He's a good coach but will likely never win the league or make the FF due to this.

May 01, 2019 03:32 PM #343

BShark said:

Marco said:

@BeddieKU23 Dixon will have a tough year regardless of what happens. Then after having the tough year he will have an even tougher one after losing so many players to transfer, and then, and then, and then.

Dixon wears players out like Bill but lacks the same recruiting chops. He's a good coach but will likely never win the league or make the FF due to this.

I've always liked Jamie Dixon - thought he was good for the league whenhe came - -still think he is good. - Think he got screwed Pitt but your right I don't think he will ever take this league

May 01, 2019 04:19 PM #344

BShark said:

Marco said:

@BeddieKU23 Dixon will have a tough year regardless of what happens. Then after having the tough year he will have an even tougher one after losing so many players to transfer, and then, and then, and then.

Dixon wears players out like Bill but lacks the same recruiting chops. He's a good coach but will likely never win the league or make the FF due to this.

The attrition of his roster by the end of first semester was impressive. I thought KU had it bad

May 01, 2019 04:21 PM #345

Marco said:

@BeddieKU23 Dixon will have a tough year regardless of what happens. Then after having the tough year he will have an even tougher one after losing so many players to transfer, and then, and then, and then.

If his two upperclassmen return they will be okay still. The attrition from this year is definitely going to hit him at some point. He's trying to close the bleeding taking 3 transfers to plug in after next year.

May 01, 2019 04:27 PM #346

BeddieKU23 said:

BShark said:

Marco said:

@BeddieKU23 Dixon will have a tough year regardless of what happens. Then after having the tough year he will have an even tougher one after losing so many players to transfer, and then, and then, and then.

Dixon wears players out like Bill but lacks the same recruiting chops. He's a good coach but will likely never win the league or make the FF due to this.

The attrition of his roster by the end of first semester was impressive. I thought KU had it bad

Self honestly hasn't had a huge purge like the end of this year in awhile. In terms of players transferring out anyway.

May 02, 2019 04:03 AM #347

Rumor Admon Gilder (A&M grad transfer) visiting early next week...

May 02, 2019 04:11 AM #348

FarmerJayhawk said:

Rumor Admon Gilder (A&M grad transfer) visiting early next week...

Interesting. Mentioned him earlier as a guy I'd be interested in. Does this mean we are out on someone else?

May 02, 2019 05:06 AM #349

BShark said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

Rumor Admon Gilder (A&M grad transfer) visiting early next week...

Interesting. Mentioned him earlier as a guy I'd be interested in. Does this mean we are out on someone else?

Not at all. Just keep bringing in guys until someone wants to be a Jayhawk. Just covering bases. I’m a big fan of his game too. Bill will adore his defense.

May 02, 2019 04:02 PM #350

FarmerJayhawk said:

BShark said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

Rumor Admon Gilder (A&M grad transfer) visiting early next week...

Interesting. Mentioned him earlier as a guy I'd be interested in. Does this mean we are out on someone else?

Not at all. Just keep bringing in guys until someone wants to be a Jayhawk. Just covering bases. I’m a big fan of his game too. Bill will adore his defense.

What position did he play? - - Stats?

May 02, 2019 04:13 PM #351

@jayballer73 off guard. 6'4, 200, 40% from 3, 80% from the line. Really good defender. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/admon-gilder-1.html ↗

May 02, 2019 04:24 PM #352

North Carolina just took another grad transfer. Justin Pierce from William and Mary. This is the third transfer they have taken.

May 02, 2019 04:28 PM #353

FarmerJayhawk said:

@jayballer73 off guard. 6'4, 200, 40% from 3, 80% from the line. Really good defender. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/admon-gilder-1.html ↗

For sure sounds like worth a look. Like you say just keep bringing them in till we get our needs - it's not like we are without options for sure now. -- Having said that though I still think it's kinda of a 1st come - -1st served type of scenario, we have options BUT if those options are exercised wrong - -THEN we might be screwed. - What I guess I'm trying to say is - -even though we now have some options - -IF came down say between what If - - Holyfield wanted to commit - but we were a little hesistant to see if Silvio got his ruling overturned - -so Holyfield goes else where and then Silvio's ruling got unchanged -- - - Or what if Kyree wanted to Commit - -but we wanted to wait and see where RJ ended up deciding to go? -- Or what if Tucker wants to commit - -just kind of feel like even though we have options - - Think it might need to be whoever commits 1st - - whatcha think? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

May 02, 2019 04:36 PM #354

Woodrow said:

North Carolina just took another grad transfer. Justin Pierce from William and Mary. This is the third transfer they have taken.

who was the other?

Pierce and Keeling right?

May 02, 2019 04:37 PM #355

@BeddieKU23 They took Harris from Va. Tech who is a sit out transfer.

May 02, 2019 04:38 PM #356

jayballer73 said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

@jayballer73 off guard. 6'4, 200, 40% from 3, 80% from the line. Really good defender. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/admon-gilder-1.html ↗

For sure sounds like worth a look. Like you say just keep bringing them in till we get our needs - it's not like we are without options for sure now. -- Having said that though I still think it's kinda of a 1st come - -1st served type of scenario, we have options BUT if those options are exercised wrong - -THEN we might be screwed. - What I guess I'm trying to say is - -even though we now have some options - -IF came down say between what If - - Holyfield wanted to commit - but we were a little hesistant to see if Silvio got his ruling overturned - -so Holyfield goes else where and then Silvio's ruling got unchanged -- - - Or what if Kyree wanted to Commit - -but we wanted to wait and see where RJ ended up deciding to go? -- Or what if Tucker wants to commit - -just kind of feel like even though we have options - - Think it might need to be whoever commits 1st - - whatcha think? - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

That's where my head is at. I think a lot of these guys (other than Hampton) are in about the same tier so you take the first guy you can get and move on. You absolutely don't want to get caught in a situation where Dotson gets a 1st round grade and you're left with a backcourt of McBride and Garrett. You ideally take a perimeter player soon (Tucker, Gilder) and wait on Hampton and Walker later this summer.

May 02, 2019 04:38 PM #357

Woodrow said:

@BeddieKU23 They took Harris from Va. Tech who is a sit out transfer.

Harris is a Va Tech decommit after Buzz left. He'll be a freshman

May 02, 2019 04:39 PM #358

FarmerJayhawk said:

Woodrow said:

@BeddieKU23 They took Harris from Va. Tech who is a sit out transfer.

Harris is a Va Tech decommit after Buzz left. He'll be a freshman

He's the one that tore his ACL correct? Their other guard signee has had similar issues

May 02, 2019 04:48 PM #359

BeddieKU23 said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

Woodrow said:

@BeddieKU23 They took Harris from Va. Tech who is a sit out transfer.

Harris is a Va Tech decommit after Buzz left. He'll be a freshman

He's the one that tore his ACL correct? Their other guard signee has had similar issues

yessir

May 05, 2019 07:09 PM #360

Admon Gilder committed to Gonzaga. A&M grad transfer.

May 08, 2019 04:10 PM #361

Transfer List over 800. Not far off from last years record total. Seems like it will smash it easily

May 10, 2019 03:44 PM #362

Would be a very nice piece if we whiff somewhere else or Dotson ends up not coming back.

Edit: Or maybe not... Those stats. Woof.

May 10, 2019 03:54 PM #363

@Kcmatt7 Hell no.

May 10, 2019 03:56 PM #364

BShark said:

@Kcmatt7 Hell no.

I'm honestly shocked at how bad he is. Like what a bust.

May 10, 2019 03:57 PM #365

Kcmatt7 said:

BShark said:

@Kcmatt7 Hell no.

I'm honestly shocked at how bad he is. Like what a bust.

For real. Dude was a 5* top 20 recruit.

I think if Grimes stayed multiple years and was engaged, he'd be way better than this.

May 11, 2019 07:18 PM #366

LOWA STATE GET FORMER TROY F JAVAN JOHNSON

May 11, 2019 08:19 PM #367

tj holyfield is goning to texas tech

May 11, 2019 08:20 PM #368

JAYHAWKFAN214 said:

tj holyfield is goning to texas tech

That sucks.

May 11, 2019 08:24 PM #369

FarmerJayhawk said:

JAYHAWKFAN214 said:

tj holyfield is goning to texas tech

That sucks.

Eh

May 11, 2019 08:25 PM #370

Who? The physics rehab assignment? That’s a 50/50 deal. Beard will get the most out of him though.

May 11, 2019 09:05 PM #371

@JAYHAWKFAN214 give us some good news!🤗

May 11, 2019 09:11 PM #372

Chris Beard .. more than the flavor of the month.

May 11, 2019 09:21 PM #373

BShark said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

JAYHAWKFAN214 said:

tj holyfield is goning to texas tech

That sucks.

Eh

More from the standpoint of Holyfield will probably be a pain in our ass

May 11, 2019 09:23 PM #374

SFA is also an Under Armour Armour program so not that surprising he picked them. I thought it was between Tech and Illinois with KU a distant 3rd for awhile.

May 11, 2019 09:48 PM #375

I'm starting to think we don't get Rayjon, either.

May 11, 2019 10:02 PM #376

No Precious, no Holyfield...Silvio come on down.

May 11, 2019 10:14 PM #377

@KUSTEVE oh. Why do you say that?

May 11, 2019 10:15 PM #378

KUSTEVE said:

I'm starting to think we don't get Rayjon, either.

Just committed to Memphis

May 11, 2019 10:41 PM #379

Crap! Come on Dotson come back!

May 11, 2019 10:41 PM #380

We always needed Dotson back tbh. RJ is a must add now imo.

May 11, 2019 10:49 PM #381

Wasn't Dotson working out with Tucker recently? I hope he's coming back to KU for his sophomore season...

May 12, 2019 12:07 AM #382

BShark said:

FarmerJayhawk said:

JAYHAWKFAN214 said:

tj holyfield is goning to texas tech

That sucks.

Eh

WELL - - DAM - there is TWO blows to the Nads all in the same day = Holyfield AND Tucker - All of a sudden the class has taken a nose dive once again -We better pray to GOD some how some way Silvio is able to come back and play next year

May 12, 2019 12:09 AM #383

KUSTEVE said:

I'm starting to think we don't get Rayjon, either.

SURPRISE - - - YOU MY SIR when the golden prize - -it's a big 8x8 box wih plenty of THIS SUCKS inside - -you got it

May 12, 2019 05:40 PM #384

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/isaiah-moss-1.html ↗

In Lawrence TODAY.

May 12, 2019 05:50 PM #385

BShark said:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/isaiah-moss-1.html ↗

In Lawrence TODAY.

So this is a grad transfer? - - PG ? - -what's YOUR opinion of this kid buddy? - like to hear input.- at this point man I'm just frustrated - - like many others I know. - -In all the years I don't ever remember as many misses ya know? - ide note - - you would think we would be hearing SOMERTHING on Silvio soon - -I mean soon wouldn't you think? - -maybe just me again but actually I'm feeling a little better about the outcome - - don't ask me why - -I just do lmao - -I know crazy right? - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

May 12, 2019 05:57 PM #386

@jayballer73 grad transfer so eligible immediately. He's not a PG. Looks like he does a bit of everything, won't be a star for us but a solid contributor. Shot 42% from three last year on 114 attempts.

May 12, 2019 05:58 PM #387

2/3, designated sniper. Bench depth since we just need bodies at this point.

May 12, 2019 05:59 PM #388

FarmerJayhawk said:

2/3, designated sniper. Bench depth since we just need bodies at this point.

Great minds think alike...

I'd certainly take him at this point as well. After missing on Tucker that is to say, but it was worth pursuing Tucker first.

May 12, 2019 05:59 PM #389

@jayballer73 we could've used him against Auburn...
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May 12, 2019 06:03 PM #390

KUSTEVE said:

@jayballer73 we could've used him against Auburn...
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No doubt there. Moss has nothing to do with Hampton, just like Tucker didn’t.

May 12, 2019 06:05 PM #391

Stealth visits like this seem to be a huge positive. It means that things are moving quickly, one would think. Would love to close on this kid, get more positive momentum and immediately helps shore up a weakness on next year's team.

May 12, 2019 08:13 PM #392

BShark said:

@jayballer73 grad transfer so eligible immediately. He's not a PG. Looks like he does a bit of everything, won't be a star for us but a solid contributor. Shot 42% from three last year on 114 attempts.

ya also looks like he takes pretty good care of the ball -- good free throw shooter - -good shooter over all

May 12, 2019 08:22 PM #393

@KUSTEVE nice height to him too 6'6 his stroke looks pretty decent

May 13, 2019 02:29 AM #394

IOWA TRANSFER ISAIAH MOSS IS DOWN TO 4 SCHOOL ARKANSAS ARIZONA STATE KU AND OREGON

May 13, 2019 02:55 AM #395

Wants to stay close to home (Chicago). If that’s the criteria, two horse race.

https://247sports.com/college/illinois/Article/Iowa-transfer-guard-Isaiah-Moss-wont-transfer-within-the-Big-Ten-down-to-four-schools-131984103/ ↗

May 13, 2019 03:00 AM #396

HighEliteMajor said:

Wants to stay close to home (Chicago). If that’s the criteria, two horse race.

https://247sports.com/college/illinois/Article/Iowa-transfer-guard-Isaiah-Moss-wont-transfer-within-the-Big-Ten-down-to-four-schools-131984103/ ↗

HE NOT STAY CLOSE TO HOME

May 13, 2019 03:21 AM #397

HighEliteMajor said:

Wants to stay close to home (Chicago). If that’s the criteria, two horse race.

https://247sports.com/college/illinois/Article/Iowa-transfer-guard-Isaiah-Moss-wont-transfer-within-the-Big-Ten-down-to-four-schools-131984103/ ↗

then that would have to be KU & Arkansas then right?

May 13, 2019 03:25 AM #398

Gonna be a fun bench piece. I hope.

May 13, 2019 09:47 AM #399

This one moved fast.

He's a good 3 point shooter so that spot up role is something I think he could fill. His PER is alarming (14) which shows up in his low FG % and average at best stat line.

Post Tucker you have to take a guy like this. He can shoot which we need desperately and he has 102 games experience in a Big-10 program. You'd think if he stayed at Iowa he was a double digit scorer his final year. If he can even give us 5-6 ppg its worth it. This is an instant plug and play guy in some way

May 13, 2019 10:54 AM #400

@BeddieKU23 Right. We’re filling holes now. There seems no reasonable wing options beyond RJ — so PER be da**ed.. Tucker had a shiny 21.8 last season.

May 13, 2019 11:26 AM #401

@HighEliteMajor

And while Tucker put up that PER at a smaller school and conference he was the man on his team and performed every night. Missing on him on paper is a huge gut punch. Character wise he might be worth missing based on his recent activity but his athleticism and shot making ability would have upgraded the roster big time. Tucker was potentially option #2 or #3 in the offense. Moss is probably a role player depending on how he potentially fit in with the teams needs.

One thing that stood out about Moss to me was his reluctance to piss off Iowa fans by transferring in-conference. I liked that. Some kids still have some respect for where they play.

I saw one Iowa fan on another board chime in on him and said he's a hot and cold shooter. Mentioned confidence being an issue (hot and cold).

With 96 starts under his belt this is a low risk option. Unless the 2020 kid reclassifies KU is out of elite level options at the wing. Moss is a solid level P5 player that has some value shooting the ball. Nothing he does is flashy but he'll fit in a team and do his job. This isn't a flashy signing potentially but it also potentially stops some bleeding.

The potential for this upcoming season rests a ton on other pieces. Dotson (returning), Silvio (appeal), Hampton (signing). KU needs them all or its a fringe Top-25 team at best

May 13, 2019 01:33 PM #402

BeddieKU23 said:

This one moved fast.

He's a good 3 point shooter so that spot up role is something I think he could fill. His PER is alarming (14) which shows up in his low FG % and average at best stat line.

Post Tucker you have to take a guy like this. He can shoot which we need desperately and he has 102 games experience in a Big-10 program. You'd think if he stayed at Iowa he was a double digit scorer his final year. If he can even give us 5-6 ppg its worth it. This is an instant plug and play guy in some way

I hadn't really paid or heard much of the kid - -BUT after he entered the transfer - had over 50 schools reach out. - - Said he couldn't accept anything from any other Big 10 school out of respect for Iowa - -and same went for Iowa St

May 13, 2019 01:41 PM #403

@jayballer73

He was a 3 year starter at Iowa. From what I saw of him this past year he was pretty good. Nothing spectacular from this guy but he's good enough to play. He's a solid player that can shoot and provide some toughness/leadership as a Senior with almost 100 starts under his belt. He doesn't turn the ball over a ton for a guard but he doesn't contribute a ton either (average rbs, assists numbers).

This could be a glue guy that ends up being important for a team like this in rebuild mode. We've missed on several better options but maybe this guy will fit Self's system better and compliment a guy like Garrett.

May 13, 2019 02:08 PM #404

@BeddieKU23 You take him and Garrett and roll them together, and you'd have an All American..

May 13, 2019 02:09 PM #405

KUSTEVE said:

@BeddieKU23 You take him and Garrett and roll them together, and you'd have an All American..

DO WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY?

May 13, 2019 02:14 PM #406

@BShark I dunno... but I heard the Transformers might be able to help.

May 13, 2019 02:18 PM #407

BTW, that Jalen Wilson would be a God send.

May 13, 2019 03:53 PM #408

KUSTEVE said:

@BeddieKU23 You take him and Garrett and roll them together, and you'd have an All American..

Boom!

May 13, 2019 03:55 PM #409

KUSTEVE said:

BTW, that Jalen Wilson would be a God send.

Yupp he's got a point forward to his game. Not a true 4 man but he just kept growing to 6'8/6'9. Legitimate guard skills at his size and shooting ability. He was one I really wanted last spring and Belein shut his recruitment down. If he's looking to be closer to home now KU is a great fit

May 13, 2019 04:13 PM #410

I have two friends that are Iowa fans. Asked them about Moss and their two responses were:

"Let's just say I'm not sad that he's moving on."

and

"If he's KU's best option as an add then they're in trouble."

Neither of my buddies are the bitter-type either. Not exactly a ringing endorsement if that's all KU can add at this point grad transfer-wise.

May 13, 2019 04:19 PM #411

focojayhawk said:

I have two friends that are Iowa fans. Asked them about Moss and their two responses were:

"Let's just say I'm not sad that he's moving on."

and

"If he's KU's best option as an add then they're in trouble."

Neither of my buddies are the bitter-type either. Not exactly a ringing endorsement if that's all KU can add at this point grad transfer-wise.

The gist I got is that he is similar to Vick and Selden. If his first couple shots go down watch out but he is extremely inconsistent. Also a laid back kind of guy that clashed with their coach a bit, not sure he is a fit with Self if true.

I think he's fine as a bench piece but not a starter.

If the fail case is starting Dotson, Garrett and Agbaji it's not the end of the world but adding RJ would solve a lot of issues...

May 13, 2019 04:27 PM #412

Moss could be a nice addition. He's not the player that Tucker is, but he gives the guard rotation some more depth.

The downside is that he gives us depth - he's not a guy that can carry the load. He's a nice piece if you already have guys to carry the load in place. That was one of Iowa's problems with him. He was a good player, but not so good that he could make up for the shortcomings on the rest of the roster.

This current KU roster is still a good, but flawed roster. Moss would be a good addition, but he isn't going to cover up any of the flaws already existing with the roster.

May 13, 2019 04:37 PM #413

focojayhawk said:

I have two friends that are Iowa fans. Asked them about Moss and their two responses were:

"Let's just say I'm not sad that he's moving on."

and

"If he's KU's best option as an add then they're in trouble."

Neither of my buddies are the bitter-type either. Not exactly a ringing endorsement if that's all KU can add at this point grad transfer-wise.

Thanks for posting.

It sounds as if he underachieved a bit to expectation after a good Soph year.

KU's best options went elsewhere. Now in Plan XYZ mode just trying to get bodies to have

May 13, 2019 04:50 PM #414

@BShark i noticed after he scored 19 points in 96 seconds, the next game he went 0 for 7 in 23 minutes, and then was given 14 minutes the next game after that. Not sure if he is just inconsistent, or Iowa has a quick hook. he scored 20 against the Clones, and scored 16 against Tenn. he's a riddle...

May 13, 2019 05:20 PM #415

Bill Self patented the quick hook. The Grimes situation seems baffling on first glance but recruiting optics is my guess.

May 13, 2019 07:46 PM #416

KJ Lawson to Tulane.

May 13, 2019 11:38 PM #417

@BShark And good luck to him.

May 15, 2019 03:11 PM #418

Jermarl Baker ended up at Arizona.

Can't make this stuff up

May 15, 2019 03:12 PM #419

BeddieKU23 said:

Jermarl Baker ended up at Arizona.

Can't make this stuff up

From one bench to another.

May 15, 2019 03:15 PM #420

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

Jermarl Baker ended up at Arizona.

Can't make this stuff up

From one bench to another.

That was great!

May 15, 2019 04:32 PM #421

BeddieKU23 said:

Jermarl Baker ended up at Arizona.

Can't make this stuff up

Crazy - -these recruits STILL going to play for SSS - - + SWEET SWEATY STUMPY - - - unreal. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

May 15, 2019 11:05 PM #422

CHRIS CLARKE FROM VIRGINIA TECH HAS TRANSFER TO TEXAS TECH

May 16, 2019 12:25 AM #423

Moss to Arkansas. Sup Kyree

May 16, 2019 12:37 AM #424

@FarmerJayhawk Did KU actually offer Moss?

May 16, 2019 12:40 AM #425

FarmerJayhawk said:

Moss to Arkansas. Sup Kyree

What a boss move there. Come on down Walker

May 16, 2019 12:44 AM #426

BShark said:

@FarmerJayhawk Did KU actually offer Moss?

Not that I know of.

May 16, 2019 12:50 AM #427

FarmerJayhawk said:

BShark said:

@FarmerJayhawk Did KU actually offer Moss?

Not that I know of.

Sure seems that they didn't but I wasn't fully sure. Definitely wasn't anything reported.

May 16, 2019 12:53 AM #428

Oh hey, per Bedore KU did NOT offer. Seems big.

May 16, 2019 12:59 AM #429

BShark said:

Oh hey, per Bedore KU did NOT offer. Seems big.

Good catch! Yeah, it sure seems like the staff thinks they’ll get at least one more wing that’s better than Moss.

May 16, 2019 01:14 AM #430

And you guys think that's Walker?

May 16, 2019 01:15 AM #431

They still like their chances with Precious. But I think Walker is more likely.

May 16, 2019 01:16 AM #432

Would definitely rather have Walker.

May 16, 2019 01:19 AM #433

Or Jalen or Barnes or Cunningham.

May 16, 2019 01:22 AM #434

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Or Jalen or Barnes or Cunningham.

We will end up only getting the one guy we don’t want this class lol

May 16, 2019 02:56 AM #435

FarmerJayhawk said:

They still like their chances with Precious. But I think Walker is more likely.

STILL got to get Kyree to re-classify yet right? - - - Kid is a beast - -they say like no position layer can play so many - yep i'll take me some please

May 16, 2019 09:26 AM #436

Transfer List hitting 850.

Tech out there signing starters. As reported earlier in this thread Virginia Tech transfer Chris Clarke goes to Chris Beard. Sat out last yr after being suspended but averaged 8ppg 6 boards and 3 assists in 2017-2018. Tech has 9 newcomers for next season

May 16, 2019 12:11 PM #437

I think Tech will again be a top 15 team. I saw someone said they would be a top 10 team with the additions of Holyfield and Clark. Beard is a transfer magician!

May 16, 2019 01:23 PM #438

Woodrow said:

I think Tech will again be a top 15 team. I saw someone said they would be a top 10 team with the additions of Holyfield and Clark. Beard is a transfer magician!

They should be solid. The addition of Clarke is huge for them. TTheir ceiling depends on the developments of borderline 5 star prospect Jahmius Ramsey and the Juco Top 3 forward they signed Khalid Thomas.

May 16, 2019 02:13 PM #439

You guys see what you are doing there, right? Talking about how tech is going to only have two grad transfers and a developmental four* and juco yet should still be a top 15, top 10 program next season. Maybe, I don't know.... I sense a lovefest for Coach Beard.

May 16, 2019 03:53 PM #440

Marco said:

You guys see what you are doing there, right? Talking about how tech is going to only have two grad transfers and a developmental four* and juco yet should still be a top 15, top 10 program next season. Maybe, I don't know.... I sense a lovefest for Coach Beard.

The proof is in the pudding isn't it? He took Tech to the Elite 8 and Finals in the last two years. It's not a lovefest as much as giving the coach respect for what he's done recently. I expect he takes those transfers and new players and molds his team into a Top 25 program and thorn in KU's side in the Big-12. We shouldn't expect anything less after the last two years

May 16, 2019 04:03 PM #441

BeddieKU23 said:

Marco said:

You guys see what you are doing there, right? Talking about how tech is going to only have two grad transfers and a developmental four* and juco yet should still be a top 15, top 10 program next season. Maybe, I don't know.... I sense a lovefest for Coach Beard.

The proof is in the pudding isn't it? He took Tech to the Elite 8 and Finals in the last two years. It's not a lovefest as much as giving the coach respect for what he's done recently. I expect he takes those transfers and new players and molds his team into a Top 25 program and thorn in KU's side in the Big-12. We shouldn't expect anything less after the last two years

Exactly. I think the last two years Beard has proven he knows how to take a couple grad transfers and plug them into his current roster and make it work. Not a love fest at all just showing and giving respect to a great coach who is only going to get better.

Part of my point was if you had looked at the very early preseason Top 25's ( I agree they are silly, but fun) Tech was ranked around 20-25 or not even ranked. Now with these two pickups they will be a top 15 team.

May 16, 2019 04:04 PM #442

He's going full on Mark Few but in a Power Conference. It's impressive as hell.

May 16, 2019 04:41 PM #443

BeddieKU23 said:

Marco said:

You guys see what you are doing there, right? Talking about how tech is going to only have two grad transfers and a developmental four* and juco yet should still be a top 15, top 10 program next season. Maybe, I don't know.... I sense a lovefest for Coach Beard.

The proof is in the pudding isn't it? He took Tech to the Elite 8 and Finals in the last two years. It's not a lovefest as much as giving the coach respect for what he's done recently. I expect he takes those transfers and new players and molds his team into a Top 25 program and thorn in KU's side in the Big-12. We shouldn't expect anything less after the last two years

Been a little chatter about Beard to Michigan? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

May 16, 2019 05:04 PM #444

@jayballer73 One step away from the Big 12, and one step back...

May 16, 2019 07:32 PM #445

BeddieKU23 said:

Marco said:

You guys see what you are doing there, right? Talking about how tech is going to only have two grad transfers and a developmental four* and juco yet should still be a top 15, top 10 program next season. Maybe, I don't know.... I sense a lovefest for Coach Beard.

The proof is in the pudding isn't it? He took Tech to the Elite 8 and Finals in the last two years. It's not a lovefest as much as giving the coach respect for what he's done recently. I expect he takes those transfers and new players and molds his team into a Top 25 program and thorn in KU's side in the Big-12. We shouldn't expect anything less after the last two years

I give him his props, too. I don't see him being a thorn, though, not this next season for sure.

May 16, 2019 11:15 PM #446

@BeddieKU23 Whatever you do, don't watch the Youtube video of Ramsey taking on Jalen. Ugh...

May 16, 2019 11:28 PM #447

KUSTEVE said:

@BeddieKU23 Whatever you do, don't watch the Youtube video of Ramsey taking on Jalen. Ugh...

I would assume it's not flattering to Jalen? Ramsey is a pure guard, makes sense he could eat his lunch.

May 17, 2019 09:30 AM #448

KUSTEVE said:

@BeddieKU23 Whatever you do, don't watch the Youtube video of Ramsey taking on Jalen. Ugh...

I have seen it before. Rewatched. Ramsey is a stud. KU never really put any effort in him. He'll make us pay

Wilson can really shoot it which is what we need of him

May 17, 2019 11:19 AM #449

@BShark Ramsey is just a beast.

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May 17, 2019 11:41 AM #450

@KUSTEVE

There was talk of making him a 5 star prospect this spring

May 17, 2019 11:46 AM #451

@BeddieKU23 I believe it. Marcus will get lots of minutes guarding him.

May 17, 2019 12:00 PM #452

BeddieKU23 said:

KUSTEVE said:

@BeddieKU23 Whatever you do, don't watch the Youtube video of Ramsey taking on Jalen. Ugh...

I have seen it before. Rewatched. Ramsey is a stud. KU never really put any effort in him. He'll make us pay

Wilson can really shoot it which is what we need of him

Well, in this case there is a good chance he wasn't interested. The reason KU puts out so many offers in the first place is to try and determine who is really interested.

May 17, 2019 01:16 PM #453

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

KUSTEVE said:

@BeddieKU23 Whatever you do, don't watch the Youtube video of Ramsey taking on Jalen. Ugh...

I have seen it before. Rewatched. Ramsey is a stud. KU never really put any effort in him. He'll make us pay

Wilson can really shoot it which is what we need of him

Well, in this case there is a good chance he wasn't interested. The reason KU puts out so many offers in the first place is to try and determine who is really interested.

Yeah that's probably true. KU isn't a juggernaut on the crutin trail right now. Obviously that could change here pretty quick but we're taking our lumps this cycle

May 17, 2019 01:21 PM #454

... and I think Chris Beard is the real deal. Beard, it would seem, would be very attractive to play for. Beard will get a high lottery pick in the draft this season, a kid that wasn't highly ranked when he came to TTU. This is EXACTLY what the Big 12 needed. And EXACTLY what KU needed.

May 24, 2019 05:02 PM #455

Curtis IonlyplaywellagainstKansas Jones is transferring from Oklahoma St. NOT upset about that

May 26, 2019 06:26 PM #456

Andrew Slater saying Tech taking the UNLV transfer is likely also to try and get Jon Kuminga.

May 26, 2019 06:28 PM #457

BShark said:

Andrew Slater saying Tech taking the UNLV transfer is likely also to try and get Jon Kuminga.

Dam how many spots do they have? - How many players are these guys allowed to carry lmao?

May 26, 2019 07:23 PM #458

Tech is full now, kuminga isn't 2019

May 26, 2019 08:20 PM #459

@BShark juice?

May 29, 2019 03:39 AM #460

This is probably old news - - saw where Tevin Mack is going to transfer out of Alabama.

Also saw also that Rasir Bolton transferred to Iowa State - - transfer from Penn State

May 29, 2019 09:29 AM #461

@jayballer73

No surprise on the first

Iowa St was looking for another scoring guard for this year. Looks like they found him

May 29, 2019 12:31 PM #462

BeddieKU23 said:

@jayballer73

No surprise on the first

Iowa St was looking for another scoring guard for this year. Looks like they found him

would we be interested in Mack at all?

May 29, 2019 12:32 PM #463

jayballer73 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

@jayballer73

No surprise on the first

Iowa St was looking for another scoring guard for this year. Looks like they found him

would we be interested in Mack at all?

No

May 29, 2019 12:43 PM #464

BShark said:

jayballer73 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

@jayballer73

No surprise on the first

Iowa St was looking for another scoring guard for this year. Looks like they found him

would we be interested in Mack at all?

No

Good enough , I had heard his name -but not aware of much else on him - - Thanks. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

May 29, 2019 12:44 PM #465

Mack is the headcase that played for Texas, right?

May 29, 2019 12:46 PM #466

@dylans yes

May 29, 2019 02:12 PM #467

If we wanted a sit-out transfer I'd take a hard look at Arizona's Devonaire Doutrive!

May 29, 2019 02:13 PM #468

Hauser brothers went in different directions. Older bro Sam to Virginia. Younger bro Joey to Michigan St.

May 29, 2019 02:51 PM #469

BeddieKU23 said:

If we wanted a sit-out transfer I'd take a hard look at Arizona's Devonaire Doutrive!

Odd situation. Main Arizona insider is saying it's not basketball related. He followed up on that with more info but it's a VIP post on their board so I can't read that.

He's a good developmental prospect. I think he'd be a good take.

May 29, 2019 03:43 PM #470

Sounds like he failed a couple drug tests. Which if it's just weed, ¯_(ツ)_/¯

May 29, 2019 03:45 PM #471

@FarmerJayhawk Lol yep. If it's weed that doesn't change my opinion on wanting him at all.

May 29, 2019 03:52 PM #472

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

If we wanted a sit-out transfer I'd take a hard look at Arizona's Devonaire Doutrive!

Odd situation. Main Arizona insider is saying it's not basketball related. He followed up on that with more info but it's a VIP post on their board so I can't read that.

He's a good developmental prospect. I think he'd be a good take.

Thanks for the additional info I didn't do my homework on him. I do however remember him being an odd choice for Zona and he was recruited over even though the fanbase seemed to like him and was hoping he'd get an expanded role. I have no idea where he might go next but if KU was in the running to fill one of the spots with a transfer we could do much worse.

May 30, 2019 01:23 AM #473

Any room for Kerry Blackshear? He pulled out of the draft and is eligible immediately

May 30, 2019 01:24 AM #474

Woodrow said:

Any room for Kerry Blackshear? He pulled out of the draft and is eligible immediately

Not a need. Don't think he'd come here given the big situation.

May 30, 2019 01:33 AM #475

@BShark agree. I bet he ends up at A&M with Buzz

May 30, 2019 02:00 AM #476

Kentucky the one to watch for Blackshear

May 30, 2019 08:53 AM #477

Lol Kentucky and its 16 bigs. Why not add a 17th

May 30, 2019 08:53 AM #478

You'd think Duke would want him

May 30, 2019 03:10 PM #479

Ryan posted that even if Dot left, Q wasn't coming back to KS.

@Crimsonorblue22 I know you were wondering.

May 30, 2019 03:41 PM #480

@BShark

Certainly a mutual parting. I'm going with Self nudging the door open

May 30, 2019 04:32 PM #481

If we need another guard, just saying. https://247sports.com/player/brad-calipari-68271/ ↗

May 30, 2019 06:50 PM #482

FarmerJayhawk said:

If we need another guard, just saying. https://247sports.com/player/brad-calipari-68271/ ↗

ROFLMAO - - as Larry the Cable guy would say - - -I don't care who you are that's funny right there lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

May 30, 2019 07:30 PM #483

@jayballer73 Vick could be his handler...lol.

May 30, 2019 07:44 PM #484

@KUSTEVE Vick is too busy with family matters in Memphis:anguished:

May 30, 2019 11:37 PM #485

@BShark Like I said, there are ways to make them leave. He's a spoiled brat, had to go.

May 30, 2019 11:38 PM #486

@BeddieKU23 Nudging the door open and keeping it there. 😉

May 31, 2019 12:34 AM #487

bcjayhawk said:

@KUSTEVE Vick is too busy with family matters in Memphis:anguished:

Hes trying out for teams
Jun 01, 2019 08:39 PM #488

The schools that Q Grimes is Thinking about Transfer to uk Marquette Texas A&m Houston Arizona

Jun 01, 2019 08:40 PM #489

JAYHAWKFAN214 said:

The schools that Q Grimes is Thinking about Transfer to uk Marquette Texas A&m Houston Arizona

That's bleacher report crap, not an official report.

Jun 01, 2019 08:41 PM #490

@BShark Other than Kentucky, that's a pretty logical choice list for Grimes. I would bet either A&M or Houston in the end.

Jun 01, 2019 08:42 PM #491

Texas Hawk 10 said:

@BShark Other than Kentucky, that's a pretty logical choice list for Grimes. I would bet either A&M or Houston in the end.

Probably not too far off. I don't see the fit at Arizona either. Just wanted to mention it's BR speculation.

Jun 02, 2019 05:22 AM #492

@BShark I'm sure that Kelvin Sampson will be texting him soon.

Jun 03, 2019 05:15 PM #493

Any chance on this guy? 6'3'' senior who averaged 14.4 points per game and shot 41.6% from 3 last season.

Jun 03, 2019 05:39 PM #494

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

Any chance on this guy? 6'3'' senior who averaged 14.4 points per game and shot 41.6% from 3 last season.

quack quack

Jun 04, 2019 09:36 AM #495

@KUSTEVE

Sorry, Jaevin Cumberland picked Cincinnati after his brother backed out of the draft and returned for his Sr year. Nati going to have one heck of a back court

Jun 04, 2019 09:36 AM #496

Big loss for TCU, Kendric Davis their projected starting PG is gone

Jun 04, 2019 09:38 AM #497

Not that anyone cares but Jahvon Quinerly picked Alabama. Nate Oats has a chance to get the best of out of him, if he can mature

Jun 04, 2019 10:56 AM #498

BeddieKU23 said:

Big loss for TCU, Kendric Davis their projected starting PG is gone

!alt text ↗

Jun 04, 2019 12:46 PM #499

BeddieKU23 said:

Big loss for TCU, Kendric Davis their projected starting PG is gone

where did he go?

Jun 04, 2019 12:59 PM #500

@jayballer73 Hasn't announced that yet.

Jun 04, 2019 01:26 PM #501

BShark said:

@jayballer73 Hasn't announced that yet.

UCLA ;)

Jun 04, 2019 04:11 PM #502

@BeddieKU23 why did he leave? So late, weird. Fisher left, grad transfer or overseas? Lost track.

Jun 04, 2019 04:20 PM #503

@Crimsonorblue22

TCU took on two grad transfers, I believe both were more in the mold of combo guards compared to Davis. They also signed an Australian PG ranked #137. Either Dixon knew he was leaving and signed the transfers or this could have been due to signing them. Whatever the case it's not a good look for the program how many kids have transferred out.

Jun 04, 2019 04:37 PM #504

@BeddieKU23 do you think some of the problems are due to Dixon looking to leave earlier?

Jun 04, 2019 07:51 PM #505

garrett luinstra"s name is in the transfer portal

Jun 04, 2019 08:14 PM #506

Wasn’t Luinstra a preferred walk-on?

Jun 04, 2019 08:15 PM #507

Gorilla72 said:

Wasn’t Luinstra a preferred walk-on?

yes

Jun 04, 2019 08:23 PM #508

Did we get another walk on?

Jun 04, 2019 08:30 PM #509

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Did we get another walk on?

We did, but I didn't think there was a limit. Seems odd.

Jun 04, 2019 08:32 PM #510

Kid just wants to play somewhere he can earn a scholarship. Don’t blame him.

Jun 04, 2019 08:35 PM #511

@FarmerJayhawk That's pretty fair, college is expensive. Do you know what level he is looking at?

Jun 04, 2019 08:38 PM #512

@BShark who, I forgot?

Jun 04, 2019 08:38 PM #513

@Crimsonorblue22 Jank's kid.

Jun 04, 2019 08:39 PM #514

@FarmerJayhawk I think it's great he wants to play! I hope he can transfer down where he can play right away.

Jun 04, 2019 08:43 PM #515

BShark said:

@FarmerJayhawk That's pretty fair, college is expensive. Do you know what level he is looking at?

I do not. Cool thing about the portal is he’ll find out real quick. Dude could light it up at Washburn if he wanted.

Jun 04, 2019 09:32 PM #516

@FarmerJayhawk great coach!

Jun 04, 2019 09:33 PM #517

So does Luinstra have to sit a year before he can play? Just curious...

Jun 04, 2019 09:33 PM #518

Not going down a level, right?

Jun 04, 2019 10:10 PM #519

@Crimsonorblue22 not if he goes D2 or JuCo

Jun 04, 2019 10:42 PM #520

He'll go play at Washburn or Pitt State.

Jun 05, 2019 12:40 AM #521

Somebody said he wanted to try D-1

Jun 05, 2019 02:22 AM #522

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Somebody said he wanted to try D-1

Bedore confirms

Jun 05, 2019 09:45 AM #523

College Basketball is so hilarious now walk-ons transfer

Jun 05, 2019 10:59 AM #524

@Crimsonorblue22 But is he good enough? I wish him the best, though. Now that we've also added Jankovich he would never have played.

Jun 05, 2019 11:41 AM #525

BShark said:

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Somebody said he wanted to try D-1

Bedore confirms

Funny -- Look at the first comment on the link. Some dude says he's better than Svi. Opinions ....

Jun 05, 2019 11:57 AM #526

@HighEliteMajor Does that guy have a driver's license?

Jun 05, 2019 01:08 PM #527

@HighEliteMajor Appears to be a Missouri fan.

Jun 05, 2019 01:22 PM #528

Washburn, Emporia State, Wofford? He should transfer to another team in our pre-conference conference...

Jun 05, 2019 01:29 PM #529

@KUSTEVE claims to have watched sports for over 90 years. He is an excellent typist for a canine.

Jun 05, 2019 04:19 PM #530

He was really good at free state, did he set some record? Heard a great shooter, he should play somewhere.

Jun 05, 2019 04:29 PM #531

Overall transfer numbers have reached 2018's. May hit a thousand before the fall

Jun 05, 2019 06:08 PM #532

Luinstra
Averaged 19 points his senior year in guiding Free State High School to the 6A state title game and a 19-6 record … Set the school season scoring record with 456 points in 2017-18 … A first-team all-state selection and the Sunflower League Player of the Year his senior season leading the Firebirds to two straight league titles … Two-time all-league first team selection his junior and senior years … Had two games of 31-plus points in 2017-18, including 36 at Liberty … Participated in the 2018 Greater Kansas City Basketball Coaches Association all-star game … Played for head coach Sam Stroh his junior and senior seasons at Free State … An all-league honoree his junior season where he averaged 15 points in leading Free State to a third-place finish in the state tournament.

Jun 07, 2019 05:49 PM #533

Kerry Blackshear and Arkansas rumors heating up... per Slater

Jun 07, 2019 05:53 PM #534

Kcmatt7 said:

Kerry Blackshear and Arkansas rumors heating up... per Slater

Good. I'd rather he end up somewhere that isn't a real contender at this point.

Jun 07, 2019 08:27 PM #535

Isiah Moss reopened his recruitment. Goodman is trying to say all signs point to KU

Jun 07, 2019 08:28 PM #536

@BeddieKU23 Yep.

Jun 07, 2019 08:29 PM #537

Matt Tait retweeted it.. saying monster news

Jun 07, 2019 08:29 PM #538

Kcmatt7 said:

Kerry Blackshear and Arkansas rumors heating up... per Slater

Why?

Jun 07, 2019 08:30 PM #539

@BeddieKU23 42.1% from 3 last season and 39.1% career. Might not always score a lot but will do his job to space the floor for us.

Jun 07, 2019 08:34 PM #540

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

@BeddieKU23 42.1% from 3 last season and 39.1% career. Might not always score a lot but will do his job to space the floor for us.

Streaky shooter. Almost 100 starts under his belt. Iowa fans werent sad he left though. I dont think Goodman knows anything. If we need a body after Wilson decides why not. He has a lot of experience

Jun 07, 2019 08:38 PM #541

We have the available scholarships, so why not.

Jun 07, 2019 08:38 PM #542

@BeddieKU23 Well I won't say no to a 40% 3-point shooter with a lot of experience, but Walker and Bilau would be nice too.

Jun 07, 2019 08:58 PM #543

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

@BeddieKU23 Well I won't say no to a 40% 3-point shooter with a lot of experience, but Walker and Bilau would be nice too.

I'd rather have Walker and Bilau for those last 2 spots with Wilson but as you said 40% 3 point shooters dont grow on trees especially after the line was moved back

Jun 07, 2019 09:00 PM #544

I would think Moss has a lot more to do with Walker maybe not being able to not reclassify.

Jun 07, 2019 09:05 PM #545

@FarmerJayhawk Honestly fine with getting Wilson, Moss, and Bilau and waiting until 2020 for Kyree.

Jun 07, 2019 09:05 PM #546

FarmerJayhawk said:

I would think Moss has a lot more to do with Walker maybe not being able to not reclassify.

I was just going to say/ask about that. - -Got me to thinking maybe things have been discussed and Kyree just isn't going to be able to re-classify - -so then we have this , you read my mind - as I was thinking that this quite possibly could have more to do about Kyree then anything else. - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Jun 07, 2019 10:01 PM #547

BeddieKU23 said:

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

@BeddieKU23 Well I won't say no to a 40% 3-point shooter with a lot of experience, but Walker and Bilau would be nice too.

I'd rather have Walker and Bilau for those last 2 spots with Wilson but as you said 40% 3 point shooters dont grow on trees especially after the line was moved back

KU only has 10 scholarship players right now, why wouldn't KU take all 3 if all 3 wanted to pop for KU?

Jun 07, 2019 10:29 PM #548

Texas Hawk 10 said:

BeddieKU23 said:

KirkIsMyHinrich said:

@BeddieKU23 Well I won't say no to a 40% 3-point shooter with a lot of experience, but Walker and Bilau would be nice too.

I'd rather have Walker and Bilau for those last 2 spots with Wilson but as you said 40% 3 point shooters dont grow on trees especially after the line was moved back

KU only has 10 scholarship players right now, why wouldn't KU take all 3 if all 3 wanted to pop for KU?

I'd rather have Walker, Wilson and Bilau for 2019 but if Walker to 19 is fading and we can take another I'm all for

Jun 07, 2019 10:29 PM #549

Wilson, Moss, and Bilau FOR THREE! (i.e., noting the KU need for shooting AND three extra schollies.)

Jun 07, 2019 10:45 PM #550

FarmerJayhawk said:

I would think Moss has a lot more to do with Walker maybe not being able to not reclassify.

I think this is it too.

Jun 07, 2019 10:48 PM #551

Here’s the scout !0_1559948071835_D5F3CA8F-C98F-48B2-B5BA-EA9C438424E9.png ↗

Jun 08, 2019 12:04 AM #552

@FarmerJayhawk Looking at Moss' stats and videos it kind of feels like we're getting Quentin Grimes back, except now he can shoot 3's and dribble.

Jun 08, 2019 12:30 AM #553

Someone with a Slant sub told me Bossi is saying it’s basically done. And Wilson was made aware of Moss and is good with it since they don’t really share a spot.

Jun 08, 2019 01:07 AM #554

7th woods is transferring to s Carolina?

Jun 08, 2019 01:41 AM #555

@Crimsonorblue22 yep. Good for him. He’s a good kid, just hasn’t developed due to injury and he also can’t shoot.

Jun 08, 2019 01:43 AM #556

BeddieKU23 said:

Kcmatt7 said:

Kerry Blackshear and Arkansas rumors heating up... per Slater

Why?

I don't get it. Why the heck would he go to Arkansas?

Jun 08, 2019 01:52 AM #557

@FarmerJayhawk That's why that I sighed when we didn't even offer Moss...

Jun 08, 2019 01:54 AM #558

THANK GOD.....MOSS, COME HOME!!!!

Jun 08, 2019 01:58 AM #559

KUSTEVE said:

@FarmerJayhawk That's why that I sighed when we didn't even offer Moss...

Didn’t want to mess with the RJ/Wilson package. They like Wilson more, especially long term.

Jun 08, 2019 02:06 AM #560

Since Moss committed to Arkansas, KU couldn’t approach him. So how does Walker fit in? Is the thinking that Moss waited to see what Walker would do? Surely not.

I’m curious as to why Moss decided to reopen his recruitment....

Jun 08, 2019 02:12 AM #561

I'm beyond ecstatic. 40%+ from 3. Great handles...very good steals. Now we have a ball handler to stop teams from packing the lane- a guy with 3 years experience in the B10. He will be a perfect compliment to MG. I don't know how I missed this news for so long today...

Jun 08, 2019 02:14 AM #562

@FarmerJayhawk I think we have a decent chance at getting them both...

Jun 08, 2019 02:19 AM #563

@FarmerJayhawk I would like to hope the staff likes the player that can actually stay more than one year better for the long term. :p

Jun 08, 2019 02:20 AM #564

Gorilla72 said:

Since Moss committed to Arkansas, KU couldn’t approach him. So how does Walker fit in? Is the thinking that Moss waited to see what Walker would do? Surely not.

I’m curious as to why Moss decided to reopen his recruitment....

It's sounding more and more like Walker won't be able to complete the classes he would need to.

Moss is now needed more at Kansas. Arkansas was over the scholarship limit and will be adding Blackshear. Not the same position as Moss but they do have a crowded back court. Moss will either start at Kansas or the the first guard off the bench.

Jun 08, 2019 02:23 AM #565

BShark said:

@FarmerJayhawk I would like to hope the staff likes the player that can actually stay more than one year better for the long term. :p

Ha! I worded that weird. It’s been a hell of a week. Had comps so my brain is DONE

Jun 08, 2019 02:29 AM #566

@FarmerJayhawk dble positive👍👍

Jun 08, 2019 02:54 AM #567

Word is Moss wasn’t totally healthy last year which played a part in him regressing some. Had a hip procedure so if he’s healthy he should be better than last year.

Jun 08, 2019 03:04 AM #568

If Moss signs with us, I'm taking full credit for it. All my whining about not offering him appears to have paid off.

Jun 08, 2019 03:06 AM #569

KUSTEVE said:

If Moss signs with us, I'm taking full credit for it. All my whining about not offering him appears to have paid off.

TOUCHE score one for you lol - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Jun 08, 2019 03:17 AM #570

@jayballer73 I've been trying to do my best to put my best foot forward with the idea that Marcus would be good for us, and we were just going to have to accept we would probably suck at shooting. Getting Moss gives us an experienced weapon that allows us to have a ball handler that can make teams pay for trying to pack it in. IMO, Moss is going to be very important.

Jun 08, 2019 03:23 AM #571

Let's wait til the ink is dry. Our dreams have been crushed a bit this spring.

Jun 08, 2019 03:54 AM #572

KUSTEVE said:

@jayballer73 I've been trying to do my best to put my best foot forward with the idea that Marcus would be good for us, and we were just going to have to accept we would probably suck at shooting. Getting Moss gives us an experienced weapon that allows us to have a ball handler that can make teams pay for trying to pack it in. IMO, Moss is going to be very important.

now let's just hope for the best. - - I would think we got a decent shot

Jun 08, 2019 03:59 AM #573

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Jun 08, 2019 04:11 AM #574

Isaiah Moss.... 48 3-pointers in 114 attempts. Quentin Grimes .... 54 3-pointers in 159 attempts. Any questions?

Jun 08, 2019 05:09 AM #575

Like I said, I'm waiting til they sign, I also got my hopes up for some transfers last year.🙄

Jun 08, 2019 11:25 AM #576

Jordan Brown to Nevada. If you can't get on the court at Nevada, best to go to the Pac 12.

Jun 08, 2019 11:56 AM #577

Grimes will visit Houston and TAMU.

Jun 08, 2019 12:12 PM #578

KUSTEVE said:

If Moss signs with us, I'm taking full credit for it. All my whining about not offering him appears to have paid off.

I'll allow it, you did run this bandwagon

Jun 08, 2019 12:14 PM #579

BShark said:

Jordan Brown to Nevada. If you can't get on the court at Nevada, best to go to the Pac 12.

Where is he going?

Jun 08, 2019 12:15 PM #580

I see its stumpy land for Brown, go figure

Jun 08, 2019 12:16 PM #581

BeddieKU23 said:

I see its stumpy land for Brown, go figure

Oh yeah my bad, thought I mentioned Arizona but I definitely did not. Really weird situation.

Jun 08, 2019 12:17 PM #582

BShark said:

BeddieKU23 said:

I see its stumpy land for Brown, go figure

Oh yeah my bad, thought I mentioned Arizona but I definitely did not. Really weird situation.

Been a weird kid since his recruitment

Jun 08, 2019 12:18 PM #583

Whoever convinced him to go to Nevada with all those transfers and seniors they had was hell bent on cratering his OAD potential and it happened

Jun 08, 2019 12:29 PM #584

@BeddieKU23 When Jordan Poole ( pretty good player ) was asked who was the toughest player he had to play against in the B10, he answered Isaiah Moss. Now, that quote didn't surface until after Moss had signed with the Hawgs, so I then figured all the mealy mouthing from Iowa fans saying they "were glad" Moss was gone was Iowa corn fed B.S.. Remember, a Hawkeye fan has the same inferiority complex as a Clone fan- they just wear different colors.

Jun 08, 2019 12:53 PM #585

Do we actually have reasonable reasons to believe he will come to KU? Haven't heard anything other than pundits assuming it. Could be after being forced out at Arkansas that he just returns to Iowa.

Would love to add him, but I don't think it's automatic.

Jun 08, 2019 03:52 PM #586

Will be Kansas for Moss

Jun 08, 2019 03:53 PM #587

@BShark Any word on when it'll be official?

Jun 08, 2019 04:05 PM #588

BShark said:

Do we actually have reasonable reasons to believe he will come to KU? Haven't heard anything other than pundits assuming it. Could be after being forced out at Arkansas that he just returns to Iowa.

Would love to add him, but I don't think it's automatic.

Will be Kansas for Moss

@Bshark What happened in the span of two posts?

Jun 08, 2019 04:16 PM #589

I’ve been hunting down to get a sense of timing and whether or not he’s got any more coursework to do.

Jun 08, 2019 04:20 PM #590

Yep, he’s still got some to do over the summer at Iowa before officially graduating. He may commit soon, but won’t be at KU (or anywhere) until later this summer.

Jun 08, 2019 05:19 PM #591

@BShark I'm not going to spike the ball...not yet...

Jun 27, 2019 12:58 AM #592

JON ROTHSTEIN @JONROTHSTEIN 1H
KANSAS TRANSFER QUENTIN GRIMES WILL BE MAKING AN ANNOUNCEMENT ON HIS PLANS MOVING FORWARD ON FRIDAY, PRE HIS FATHER. HAS RECENTLY VISITED BOTH HOUSTON AND TEXAS A&M

Jun 27, 2019 01:31 AM #593

Fart noises

Jun 27, 2019 03:34 AM #594

Who is this Quentin Grimes? I remember no such player.

Jun 27, 2019 03:48 AM #595

Don't be dicks about Grimes. He was a bust, but he didn't do anything to embarrass the school or team beyond not being as good as his ranking.

Jun 27, 2019 03:51 AM #596

@Texas-Hawk-10 who? Still doesn’t ring a bell. TJ Whatley’s mustache had a longer lasting impression. I mean what are the odds I remember Grimes in 30 years?!?

Jun 27, 2019 04:16 AM #597

@dylans Still not a reason to be a dick about him.

Jun 27, 2019 05:52 AM #598

Texas Hawk 10 said:

Don't be dicks about Grimes. He was a bust, but he didn't do anything to embarrass the school or team beyond not being as good as his ranking.

Thanks guy - -kind of feel the same, no reason to be talking smack about Quentin just because he didn't pan out

Jun 27, 2019 06:01 AM #599

Wah, wah, wahhhhh

Jun 27, 2019 06:03 AM #600

@Texas-Hawk-10 I think that Dick will be a positive force for us. Grady.....

Jun 27, 2019 11:33 AM #601

@Texas-Hawk-10 Yea, you're the moral compass around here. What a joke.

Jun 27, 2019 12:07 PM #602

@HighEliteMajor The moral compass? And I'm also a dick for criticizing Grimes.

Jun 27, 2019 12:13 PM #603

Texas Hawk 10 said:

@dylans Still not a reason to be a dick about him.

Only person calling names here had better look in the mirror.

Q didn’t perform and wussed out. How’s that make anyone a dick for pointing out he made zero impact at KU other than being a contributing reason the streak ended and running from adversity? A regular roll model I suppose.

I hated Dedrick’s time at KU as well. Last years team was wretched to watch. I’m glad the cancer has been cut out.

Jun 27, 2019 12:45 PM #604

To be clear, my quite eloquent post was because at this point I'm not too concerned about where he ends up. Though I guess it bears repeating that I don't think Houston would be a good fit. It's not like Sampson is less of a hardass than Self, perhaps moreso even.

Jun 27, 2019 02:14 PM #605

HighEliteMajor said:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Yea, you're the moral compass around here. What a joke.

happen to agree with Texas. - -why talk crap on the kid just because he didn't feel better? - make people feel more macho - -more of A MAN ? - - dies it feed into the self ego? - so he didn't work out -- So what? - -shit happens. - never have figured out why people feel the need when someone doesn't work out or picks another school WHY?

Jun 27, 2019 02:19 PM #606

Let's have a moment of silence, as we remember Quentin Grimes... Good luck to you, Quentin!

Jun 27, 2019 02:52 PM #607

Trying to think - -I know pretty hard for me right? lol - -anyways what the kids name was we tried getting ended up at I think UNLV? - -Juiston? - - is that right? - -wouldn't he be a nice fit to end the year with? - -what happened to him?

Jun 27, 2019 02:54 PM #608

I will mention again, when you are picking a school as an athlete, you are picking a coach as much as anything else.

Q was not a good fit at KU. From the beginning of the season, Self had him basically out on the perimeter as a floor spacing shooter. When his shot was falling, that worked well. When it was not, it went poorly.

A couple of stat lines:

38-77, 49% from the field, 6-25, 24% from 3 PT, 3.3/1 Assist to Turnover ratio, 4 rebounds per game

106-276, 38% from the field, 54-159, 34% from 3 PT, 1/1 Assist to Turnover ratio, 2.5 rebounds per game

Those are both Quentin Grimes, both playing under Self. One was with team USA, where Q played on the ball quite a bit. The other is obviously Q playing at KU, where he played exclusively off the ball. You notice right away that at KU, 57% of Q's shots came from three, while for team USA, only about a third did. Q's primary role for KU was as a floor spacing shooter. He did okay in that role, but literally every other part of his game suffered as a result. At no point did we see the aggressive Grimes that you saw for Team USA, or in HS.

Self basically used Q as if he were Brannen Greene or Conner Frankamp. There is absolutely NO WAY a player with Grimes' skillset should have shot more than half his shots on the season from three. That's part of why KU was so hard to watch last year. The pieces never really fit together. Not enough shooting. Not enough floor spacing. Not enough creativity. I remember a few times early in the season where Q spotted a mismatch and ran into the post, where he called for the ball against a smaller player. That type of play disappeared as the season wore on, even though inverting the offense to let Dedric take a bigger player out to the perimeter where he had a skill advantage, and letting Q post a smaller player, where he had a size advantage was perhaps KU's best available MUA. We did not see that enough for whatever reason. Either way, it's water under the bridge now.

I just hope lessons were learned by everyone and that Self in particular has gotten more creative with how he will approach his sets this year with another team that may have some pieces that don't fit together very cleanly.

Jun 27, 2019 03:55 PM #609

FYI Kerry Blackshear is going to Florida for his last year. Talk about Christmas in June for the Gators. Just changed the entire complexion of their ceiling

Jun 27, 2019 04:03 PM #610

@justanotherfan Moss is a better fit for that spot. It's his game. I think it will help a lot to have experience on the perimeter. Last year, there were times when we were playing 3 freshmen at the same time on the perimeter.

Jun 27, 2019 04:28 PM #611

@justanotherfan part of that as well is most of those international rosters being worse than most KU opponents. But I agree that A playing out of position hurt his game and the team. Self was rigid again in this instance.

Jun 27, 2019 05:57 PM #612

I have never claimed to be a moral compass, however I will call out someone for being an asshole unnecessarily when I see it happening. I criticized Grimes plenty here because his on court play fell well short of expectations. I don't have an issue with calling a player out for that. Grimes wasn't the first player to fall short of expectations and leave and he won't be the last at KU, he's just the most high profile player so far to fall I to that category.

Grimes also never got into any off court trouble and never bad mouthed the program during this process. He ended up not being a good fit at KU and moved on, it happens. Grimes situation is identical to Malik Newman's situation. A 5 star who failed to live up to expectations at his first school, tested the draft waters, ended up transferring and played a very major role in getting KU to the Final Four.

Being a dick about Grimes transferring is something I would expect to see at KUSports or the Phog.

Jun 27, 2019 06:01 PM #613

It could be argued Selby was a higher profile bust.

Jun 27, 2019 06:56 PM #614

jayballer73 said:

HighEliteMajor said:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Yea, you're the moral compass around here. What a joke.

happen to agree with Texas. - -why talk crap on the kid just because he didn't feel better? - make people feel more macho - -more of A MAN ? - - dies it feed into the self ego? - so he didn't work out -- So what? - -shit happens. - never have figured out why people feel the need when someone doesn't work out or picks another school WHY?

We'll remember this moment when you're talking c*** on someone, which you, of course, have never done.

I just suggest we not come out and suggest someone is being a "d***" -- a term he seems to like to say since he's now said it like three times in this thread -- solely for expressing an opinion that many share (and as @dylans did, with some humor).

Grimes was waste of a scholarship. Waste of time. The entitled prima donna. Glad he's gone.

I've now forgotten who we are talking about.

Jun 27, 2019 07:08 PM #615

Texas Hawk 10 said:

I have never claimed to be a moral compass, however I will call out someone for being an asshole unnecessarily when I see it happening. I criticized Grimes plenty here because his on court play fell well short of expectations. I don't have an issue with calling a player out for that. Grimes wasn't the first player to fall short of expectations and leave and he won't be the last at KU, he's just the most high profile player so far to fall I to that category.

Grimes also never got into any off court trouble and never bad mouthed the program during this process. He ended up not being a good fit at KU and moved on, it happens. Grimes situation is identical to Malik Newman's situation. A 5 star who failed to live up to expectations at his first school, tested the draft waters, ended up transferring and played a very major role in getting KU to the Final Four.

Being a dick about Grimes transferring is something I would expect to see at KUSports or the Phog.

@Texashawk I would respectfully offer that the post I just cited is quite a different approach, save the last sentence, vs. referring to someone being a d*** as you did twice before.

I would suggest that someone is not being a d by offering some humor as some did, nor do I think offering an opinion based on factual observation is "d" like either.

Jun 27, 2019 07:27 PM #616

@HighEliteMajor I'm sorry, but fart noises and pretending a kid doesn't exist because Grimes is close to announcing his transfer destination isn't offering any kind of opinion. It's being a dick for the sake of being a dick and I'm not apologizing for expressing that viewpoint.

I already said I have no issues with criticizing his on court play because there was plenty to criticize. This situation is no different than the Malik Newman situation. Newman was a top 10 recruit, was played out of position and underachieved, declared for the draft after his freshman season, didn't get the feedback he wanted, came back to college and transferred elsewhere that he would be a better fit.

Only difference is that KU is on the front end of the situation with Grimes.

Other than not play up to his top 10 ranking, what has Grimes done to deserve people that don't know him personally talk shit about him?

Jun 27, 2019 07:37 PM #617

@Texas-Hawk-10 I'm sorry, who are we talking about, and when did he play at KU? And why do you like the word d*** so much?

Jun 27, 2019 07:42 PM #618

@Texas-Hawk-10 I didn't take fart to be solely a criticism of the kid, I took it as an anticlimactic noise signifying the end of an underwhelming situation. Would Grimes have been a first round pick had he attended another school this year? It's very hard to believe that, given his combine if not his season. So he came to Kansas and was asked to do what Kansas wanted. He could have improved at the wing.

Was there any better opportunity presented him at another successful program last year? Or was his only better option attending Kansas but to be used differently? And if he had been used on ball more or in post ups, do we know that would have worked well with the rest of the personnel? Would we have Devon back next year? Who knows? I wanted to see Q on ball about midseason but gave up wanting that when Devon started to kick ass. I just wonder if there was any program high enough profile with the opportunity Q wanted available to him. Is it fair to judge your post in a year, barring some derailment, assuming he lasts at a program that uses him as he wanted?

Jun 27, 2019 08:01 PM #619

@HighEliteMajor Wow, someone used the word dick more than once, time to break out a gay joke!

@approxinfinity I've always thought Grimes was overrated as a top ten recruit because I got to see him quite a bit in person in high school. His natural skill set is a pass first point guard. He's got above average handles and court vision. He saw plays in HS that his teammates never saw (his HS teams sucked, only made the state playoffs once out of a pretty weak basketball district) that led to a lot of turnovers for Grimes.

Grimes weaknesses are what will keep him from the NBA just like Newman's weaknesses will keep him from the NBA. Newman was too small to be an NBA 2 and he doesn't have the handles to be a PG at the NBA level.

Grimes has the handles and vision to be a good college PG, but he doesn't have the shooting or athleticism to be a perimeter player or the size to be a point forward. His time running the point for Self at the U-18s is evidence of that. As someone above mentioned, the competition was mostly below anything Grimes saw at KU, but it was also better than just about anything Grimes saw in HS as well.

Grimes will be a good college player if he lands somewhere that lets him be a PG, or at least a ball dominant player, but he'll never be an NBA player.

Jun 27, 2019 08:29 PM #620

@approxinfinity interesting notion. I would think Dotson's development would have been stifled off the ball. Dotson appears to be the player more worth developing at pg and is definitely more of a "Bill Self" type player. Of course another consideration is that Bill recruited two players that didn't fit together at all Bill isn't omnipotent but some warning signs were there. In general I am weary of Texas prospects, it's still hard to evaluate them compared to other high prospect density areas.

Jun 27, 2019 08:32 PM #621

HighEliteMajor said:

jayballer73 said:

HighEliteMajor said:

@Texas-Hawk-10 Yea, you're the moral compass around here. What a joke.

happen to agree with Texas. - -why talk crap on the kid just because he didn't feel better? - make people feel more macho - -more of A MAN ? - - dies it feed into the self ego? - so he didn't work out -- So what? - -shit happens. - never have figured out why people feel the need when someone doesn't work out or picks another school WHY?

We'll remember this moment when you're talking c*** on someone, which you, of course, have never done.

I just suggest we not come out and suggest someone is being a "d***" -- a term he seems to like to say since he's now said it like three times in this thread -- solely for expressing an opinion that many share (and as @dylans did, with some humor).

Grimes was waste of a scholarship. Waste of time. The entitled prima donna. Glad he's gone.

I've now forgotten who we are talking about.

GRIMES -- -don't make have to tell you again

Jun 27, 2019 08:33 PM #622

Texas Hawk 10 said:

@HighEliteMajor I'm sorry, but fart noises and pretending a kid doesn't exist because Grimes is close to announcing his transfer destination isn't offering any kind of opinion. It's being a dick for the sake of being a dick and I'm not apologizing for expressing that viewpoint.

I already said I have no issues with criticizing his on court play because there was plenty to criticize. This situation is no different than the Malik Newman situation. Newman was a top 10 recruit, was played out of position and underachieved, declared for the draft after his freshman season, didn't get the feedback he wanted, came back to college and transferred elsewhere that he would be a better fit.

Only difference is that KU is on the front end of the situation with Grimes.

Other than not play up to his top 10 ranking, what has Grimes done to deserve people that don't know him personally talk shit about him?

OH SHIT Texas - -HighElite would say - -now that's 4 times roflmao

Jun 27, 2019 08:34 PM #623

HighEliteMajor said:

@Texas-Hawk-10 I'm sorry, who are we talking about, and when did he play at KU? And why do you like the word d*** so much?

GRIMES - -don't make me tell you again

Jun 27, 2019 08:59 PM #624

@BShark Dallas area prospects tend to be better overall than Houston area prospects.

Part of the reason why Texas doesn't churn out the basketball prospects the way other areas do is twofold. One is Texas has always been a football first state so the top athletes here tend to gravitate towards football more instead of basketball. Second, Texas was very late to the game in allowing players to play AAU ball. That also stifled development as a lot of top prospects who typically moved out of state so they could develop.

That's a big reason why the state only has one national championship in D1 hoops and only 12 Final Four appearances all time and probably 4 of those 12 (both of Baylor's and 2 of UT'S) came when the NIT was still considered the more prestigious tournament.

Jun 27, 2019 09:03 PM #625

@jayballer73 I'm not talking crap, just speaking facts. Grimes was not ready for primetime and I'm glad that he's moving on. It wasn't just Vick that was the cancer, it was Grimes too. I wish him the best, but am glad that he'll be on another team.

Jun 27, 2019 09:08 PM #626

@jayballer73 Stop being childish, it's not any better than what others are doing.

Jun 27, 2019 09:08 PM #627

QUENTIN GRIMES HAS COMMITTED TO HOUSTON PER TO HIS TWITTER PAGE. AND HE IS EXPECTED TO FILE A WAIVER WITH THE NCAA FOR IMMEDIATE ELIGIBILITY NEXT SEASON,PER MULTIPLE SOURCES.

Jun 27, 2019 09:10 PM #628

I wonder what the waiver claim will be about. If KU gets a Notice from the NCAA that would be cut and dry, anything else and I don't see him being eligible immediately.

Jun 27, 2019 09:11 PM #629

@Texas-Hawk-10 I criticized his play from the get go, saw what he wasn't almost immediately. But have never said that I don't wish him only the best.

This is an opinion site, and we are talking about Grimes so I offered my opinion. And it is not just an opinion but fact, Grimes can't play. Where should he transfer to? Perhaps Sam Houston.

Jun 27, 2019 09:14 PM #630

I'm a fair weather fan to people who transfer. I don't care where they go, or what they do. I didn't like Q that much as a player, and thought he should've played less minutes. If you're going to call me a dick, I might as well get my money's worth...lol.

Jun 27, 2019 09:18 PM #631

I guess Grimes is going to Houston, as I thought he would. Good luck with that - Sampson loves him some D.

Jun 27, 2019 09:19 PM #632

@BShark Grimes is from Houston, so I'm assuming playing closer to home is the basis of the waiver. Probably won't be approved though because there's no family emergency or anything that should allow him to play next season.

If it's UH, it's a good fit for him because Kelvin Sampson will use him as the lead guard which is what Grimes wants. Dotson coming back is why Grimes left KU because Grimes doesn't play well off the ball.

Jun 27, 2019 09:27 PM #633

@Texas-Hawk-10 that will be a must see. Wish him the best. I do know this, Sampson - he's a great coach! - loves his teams to D up. Grimes at point? This will be interesting.

Jun 27, 2019 09:32 PM #634

Texas Hawk 10 said:

@BShark Grimes is from Houston, so I'm assuming playing closer to home is the basis of the waiver. Probably won't be approved though because there's no family emergency or anything that should allow him to play next season.

If it's UH, it's a good fit for him because Kelvin Sampson will use him as the lead guard which is what Grimes wants. Dotson coming back is why Grimes left KU because Grimes doesn't play well off the ball.

YES THAT WERE HE IS GONING

Jun 27, 2019 09:35 PM #635

@JAYHAWKFAN214 well said.....

Jun 27, 2019 09:35 PM #636

@Texas-Hawk-10 I read that as "if it's uhhhhh" :)

I do wish him well, but I also hope that Self knows what he's doing and that he didnt make a big mistake with Grimes. So I don't wish him POY well. Just "competent starting PG" well.

Jun 27, 2019 09:36 PM #637

@Marco Why are you getting so defensive over this? I never said you did wish Grimes would fail after announcing his transfer, and I never said I had an issue with criticizing his on court performance because it was very underwhelming for a top 10 player and deserved criticism.

If you want to get defensive because I, and many others here, called out your opinion of Marcus Garrett redshirting next season for being ridiculous, or your statement that all 4 freshmen will average over 10 mpg next season, then that's on you for saying those things.

If you don't think Grimes is a natural PG, then I would highly recommend you watch his U18 stuff last summer under Self, and his HS videos because I can tell you one thing about Grimes and that is that his natural position is PG. His defense will also be just fine in AAC because that league outside of UH and Cincy is are way below the B12 in terms of athleticism. You put OSU or WVU in the AAC last season and those teams finish top 3 in the AAC while UH and Cincy would have struggled to be top half of the B12 last season.

If the UH decision is accurate, Grimes made the right choice and he'll be AAC POY if he stays all 3 years of eligibility he has left.

Jun 27, 2019 09:38 PM #638

@approxinfinity Grimes waited out Dotson's decision. Had Dotson stayed in the draft, Grimes would've stayed at KU and been the lead guard next season in his natural position. And AAC POY is his ceiling because he's good enough to do that in that league by his senior year of he stays that long.

Jun 27, 2019 09:41 PM #639

@Texas-Hawk-10 Did I say all four freshman would average over ten minutes a game? Hmm.... Maybe I did, can't recall, might've been beer:30. I do think that all four freshman will get solid minutes and unlike many (Bill likes him) I think that Braun will also contribute. As far as Garrett, yeah I was harsh, but Grimes? No, I wasn't. Best of luck to both you and Grimes.

Jun 27, 2019 10:00 PM #640

Sounds like Self and KU are going to try and help Grimes become eligible this year.

Jun 27, 2019 10:01 PM #641

Good for Q. Hope he gets to play. And as many transfers should play immediately as possible. Sitting out is a dumb rule.

Jun 27, 2019 10:09 PM #642

Texas Hawk 10 said:

@approxinfinity Grimes waited out Dotson's decision. Had Dotson stayed in the draft, Grimes would've stayed at KU and been the lead guard next season in his natural position. And AAC POY is his ceiling because he's good enough to do that in that league by his senior year of he stays that long.

Interesting. I heard different from other people down in Texas but I trust that you are relaying what you know/have heard. Appreciate it.

Woodrow said:

Sounds like Self and KU are going to try and help Grimes become eligible this year.

Good. Makes sense too, the parting could be seen as mutually beneficial.

Jun 27, 2019 10:19 PM #643

@BShark Look at this way, had Dotson chosen to stay in the draft and Grimes not transferred, what would KU's PG situation look like for next season?

There would have been 3 options to run the show.

  1. Grimes plays his natural position and looks a lot better on the offensive end as a distributor.

  2. Garrett plays his natural position (Every credible recruiting service had him listed as a PG) and he hurts defenses with his driving. Either they collapse on his drives and he finds the open man or they don't collapse and he makes a lot of lay ups.

  3. Issac McBride runs the point. I think he'll be good in a couple of seasons, but he isn't ready for that job now as the starting PG Kansas.

Jun 27, 2019 10:21 PM #644

@Texas-Hawk-10 Agree that Garrett is a PG.

I had just seen it mentioned a lot that Grimes was gone regardless. I think the timeline of events supports your theory/claim.

Regardless of what would have happened, next year's team would be a lot worse without Dot, imo. Super glad he returned.

Jun 27, 2019 10:28 PM #645

If Grimes is eligible then everyone should be. Unless there is some undeniable circumstance this is just another classic move in this kids saga. Joining the Justin Fields and Tate Martell of the worlds who didnt get their way. I'll pay for his pacifier while I'm at it

Jun 27, 2019 11:13 PM #646

@Woodrow As they should.

Jun 28, 2019 12:36 AM #647

Marco said:

@jayballer73 I'm not talking crap, just speaking facts. Grimes was not ready for primetime and I'm glad that he's moving on. It wasn't just Vick that was the cancer, it was Grimes too. I wish him the best, but am glad that he'll be on another team.

lol - - you definition of a cancer is crazy - -A Cancer Grimes was a Cancer? - -very much mis worded term for Grimes. - A kid just doesn't fit the billing as a OAD - -he has a bad season - just never living up to what the MEDIA - -THE FANS - -that got fed from the media - Quentin didn't live up to what he was believed to be - - after some games he started pressing - -himself - lost confidence , but A CANCER? - WOW = - very sweet choice of words for a kid that is under a microscope . - -let's see - -have YOU lived up to peoples expectations that they were looking from you? - -Are you a CANCER? - -have you ever come up short in someone else's expectations of you? - -did they call you a Cancer? - -CANCER? - -REALLY? - -Quentin Grimes does not fill the meaning of a Cancer on this team thanks

Jun 28, 2019 12:39 AM #648

Texas Hawk 10 said:

@jayballer73 Stop being childish, it's not any better than what others are doing.

hold up slick - who you talking to again? - sure the hell ain't me - -you got me messed up for somebody else. - -I'm gonna say what I have to say and I'm gonna say how I want to say it - - .seems like I have read many of your childish remarks - -but don't be coming at me like that anytime or anywhere pander ok ? - -Ok

Jun 28, 2019 12:44 AM #649

@jayballer73 What you did to @HighEliteMajor repeating my quotes was childish. I said I have no issues calling that stuff out. I don't care if you agreed with my opinion or not, you counting how many times someone says or does something is childish.

Jun 28, 2019 02:40 AM #650

@jayballer73 He's talking to you jayballer. We're all talking to you. You know damn good and well that you advocated for Grimes to transfer with the hope that we'd be able to sign Apollo Jackson.

Jun 28, 2019 02:51 AM #651

jayballer73 said:

Texas Hawk 10 said:

@jayballer73 Stop being childish

Jun 28, 2019 02:53 AM #652

Marco said:

jayballer73 said:

Texas Hawk 10 said:

@jayballer73 Stop being childish

Let's all chill out. This is an opinion site......

Jun 28, 2019 03:01 AM #653

So does anyone know when Qs mom joined the board?

Jun 28, 2019 03:02 AM #654

@dylans Lol....

Jun 28, 2019 06:50 PM #655

Texas Hawk 10 said:

@jayballer73 What you did to @HighEliteMajor repeating my quotes was childish. I said I have no issues calling that stuff out. I don't care if you agreed with my opinion or not, you counting how many times someone says or does something is childish.

move on - move along nothing to say to you

Jun 28, 2019 06:53 PM #656

Marco said:

@jayballer73 He's talking to you jayballer. We're all talking to you. You know damn good and well that you advocated for Grimes to transfer with the hope that we'd be able to sign Apollo Jackson.

you got me F - - - - - for somebody else pander - -you pulled this Apollo Jackson out your ass - -have no idea who in the hell this Apollo Jackson is - -if there is - -I just figured it was another name you pulled out your ass like so many other statements you make - -move along boy move along

Jun 28, 2019 07:39 PM #657

Let’s stop! Please

Jun 28, 2019 07:56 PM #658

Man lots of pointless bickering and finger pointing going on. Thought this was Rupp rafters or phog.net for a second. My goodness

Jun 28, 2019 07:57 PM #659

Crimsonorblue22 said:

Let’s stop! Please

thank you - -gets tiring back and forth - -to hot to do this - - so now what can we talk about? - -Do you happen to know what ever happened to the guy that ended up in UNLV? - that we had recruited? - -Juiston? - I think - -maybe we could use our last Scholi for him -I was thinking had read here that he had some kind of surgery?

Just curious - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Jun 28, 2019 08:20 PM #660

I know he had knee surgery last year, wonder if he was cleared? He was to good to play behind all our guys.

Jun 28, 2019 08:28 PM #661

It's that time of year where people go all in on snark with nothing better to do. Natural blood letting in the summer. Used to it by now.

Jun 28, 2019 09:44 PM #662

Crimsonorblue22 said:

I know he had knee surgery last year, wonder if he was cleared? He was to good to play behind all our guys.

I thought I had heard or read somewhere that he ha some kind of knee surgery - also thought I had saw he was transferring out of UNLV - -and I knew at one point thought it was going to be a KU & ISU dual for him. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Jun 28, 2019 10:27 PM #663

Crimsonorblue22 said:

I know he had knee surgery last year, wonder if he was cleared? He was to good to play behind all our guys.

Oregon is the rumor.

Jun 28, 2019 10:30 PM #664

@FarmerJayhawk thx! Really like juice, wish him well!

Jun 29, 2019 12:37 PM #665

@jayballer73 Old man, you need to get a grip, okay? That was a fucking joke that I posted. A joke that was, basically, saying let's move on. You take this site way too seriously, for real. I've been to wars, old man. Your idle threats and silly ass mean absolutely nothing to me.

Jun 29, 2019 04:08 PM #666

So...like I was saying... I'm really thinking this Moss is going to add the perfect blend of experience, defense, and offense to round out our perimeter. Moss and Marcus, combined with Dotson give us those elite ball handling skills we need. And it allows Ochai to play off the ball, where I think he will excel this year. It really looks like Ochai has worked on his driving skills, and with his athleticism and his ability to make the 3 ball, I'm thinking a star is born.

Last year we were undefeated when we had 4 scoring options. When Doke and Vick were alongside Dedric and Dot, we were pretty tough to beat. This year, we get back Doke and Dot, and add Ochai and Moss as 4 different tangible options. We also have Garrett's driving ability, which will put pressure on defenses as well. JW, and his 3 point weaponry will give us that offensive pickup when we need it. Adding Silvio down low is going to give us that elite rebounding, and allow us to guard the paint better than we have in a long while. And Dave...well, Dave might just force his way in at the 4, and be our 5th offensive threat. I don't see how we're not going to be the team to beat.

We have a great program, a great coach, and a great team coming up- clearly superior to last year's edition in my books. I'd like to see us let Q go, and focus on what is ahead of us. But I do want to say one last comment... more than a few of us didn't like some of his remarks on the way out, which is why Q got some guff from us. Doesn't mean we hate his guts, doesn't mean we're dicks, but many of us took his remarks as a slam to the program .... a slam to the coach... right or wrong. Regardless of what Q intended, it was obvious he wasn't happy here, so good luck to you, Q. It think it helps both him and us.

Jun 29, 2019 04:21 PM #667

This years team has the potential to be quite a bit better than last year even with the full roster was available. More shooting, more experience, more depth, more athleticism and more size. Once Self has them rolling sometime in February, there is no reason to think it won’t be the best team this coming year. I don’t see Duke doing better than this past year. I mean, RJ Barrett and freakin Zion couldn’t get them to the final four. MIchigan state doesn’t have a lot of room for growth but their experience gives them a high ceiling and would be tough to beat if we play them in November.

Jun 29, 2019 04:42 PM #668

Marco said:

@jayballer73 Old man, you need to get a grip, okay? That was a fucking joke that I posted. A joke that was, basically, saying let's move on. You take this site way too seriously, for real. I've been to wars, old man. Your idle threats and silly ass mean absolutely nothing to me.

I have moved on yesterday - -you just behind times - -were already talking other things - -and yet your still beating your gums - - you just babble now - it's ok you'll be all right. - -Did you see that people said to stop? - -but yet you continue - and I'm not just going to let you continue to TRY and throw shade - you been to wars - -what the fuck are you babbling about - have a great day

Jun 29, 2019 05:22 PM #669

🗣🙉

Jun 29, 2019 07:21 PM #670

I still say that we should have signed the mythological Apollo Jackson....

Jun 30, 2019 02:47 AM #671

Ok. We good? Move on?

Jun 30, 2019 04:07 PM #672

approxinfinity said:

Ok. We good? Move on?

I've got the moving van - -just need some help to load it up

Jun 30, 2019 04:11 PM #673

@jayballer73 lol...lots of great things are happening. Football is not only watchable again, it's downright exciting. And basketball...OMG. Wait until you see that first game against Dook...

Jun 30, 2019 08:03 PM #674

KUSTEVE said:

@jayballer73 lol...lots of great things are happening. Football is not only watchable again, it's downright exciting. And basketball...OMG. Wait until you see that first game against Dook...

I hear ya buddy. For the 1st time in a long time , I', actually stoked for football again. I mean dam , sure we still a work in the process BUT I think we could win 4 games this year maybe 5 - if we could get through our non-con - -3- 0 - I mean it's not out of the possibility BC will be a test for sure. - -BUT if we can somehow win that - -I think we could get quite possibly 2 Big 12 wins - - Our future is on the horizon with the Mad Hatter.

Show some results on the field now - -which I think we will - Les has shown that he and Staff is very capable on recruiting - -thinking we will start to see the benefits.

Basketball ? -- I could just wet all over myself - -we are going to be one DEEP puppy - -our front line with the right combination on any particular moment - -Could be monsterous - -very very physical - -Doke - -Silvio - - & Dave at the same time - -who knows might come a time where this might actually be a possibility for spot minutes here and there. - -Mercy you talk about bruisers. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Jun 30, 2019 08:20 PM #675

Yeah, I can't remember the last time I watched a KU football game due to being interested in the KU football team. Think the last game that I watched (though not being interested in our team) was when Mayfield lit 'em up and it became a drinking game between me and a couple of my buddies.

As for basketball, I am excited. Haven't checked the schedule yet (yeah, I know, blasphemy), when and who is our first game?

Jun 30, 2019 08:23 PM #676

@jayballer73 I'm going totally off the rails ...6 wins...bowl game...

Jun 30, 2019 08:25 PM #677

@Marco http://www2.kusports.com/news/2019/jun/03/duke-maui-villanova-headline-kus-2019-20-non-confe/?mens_basketball ↗

Jun 30, 2019 08:29 PM #678

@KUSTEVE thanks

Jun 30, 2019 08:30 PM #679

@KUSTEVE That's not totally out of the realm of possibility. Six wins is doable.

Jun 30, 2019 08:30 PM #680

KUSTEVE said:

@jayballer73 I'm going totally off the rails ...6 wins...bowl game..

Hell we good - - you just never know - I do know this - - - I think Les is getting things in place - -if nothing else within a couple of years - -this league will know who KU is again. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Jun 30, 2019 08:40 PM #681

If we make a bowl game I’ll eat my shoe.

Jun 30, 2019 08:46 PM #682

@FarmerJayhawk Are they soft leather, Farmer?

Jun 30, 2019 10:02 PM #683

FarmerJayhawk said:

If we make a bowl game I’ll eat my shoe.

doesn't take a whole hell of a lot anymore these days -- they got so many bowl games out anymore these days. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Jun 30, 2019 10:27 PM #684

@jayballer73 And KU still hasn't made one in a decade. Miles could've gotten last year's team to a bowl game, but I don't see it this year. KU is likely going 2-1 in nonconference losing at BC. That means they need 4 Big 12 wins and I don't that this year unless the O a d DLine's are much improved from the spring game which I doubt happens.

Jul 01, 2019 12:35 AM #685

Texas Hawk 10 said:

@jayballer73 And KU still hasn't made one in a decade. Miles could've gotten last year's team to a bowl game, but I don't see it this year. KU is likely going 2-1 in nonconference losing at BC. That means they need 4 Big 12 wins and I don't that this year unless the O a d DLine's are much improved from the spring game which I doubt happens.

ya I'm not really looking for any bowl this year - -I had said MAYBE we could get 4 - - maybe possibly 5 - 4-5 would be some nice improvement. - -$-5 wins would be called progress - if Les can make some strides which I fully believe he will - -then we will start seeing even better recruiting classes. - -We didn't get in this pathetic spot all of a sudden - and we won't get back to where we wanna be all of a sudden - thanks to these former staffs - -we were rock bottom and was trying to go deeper then rock bottom. - Yet I think 3-4 years we might just be much better and fun to watch for sure - I think we will be competitive this year but I mean 3-4 years improving some each year - - then by that time we will be a very solid club AND going to bowl games. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Jul 01, 2019 02:12 AM #686

It would take a miracle to go bowling this season.

Jul 01, 2019 03:32 AM #687

Marco said:

@FarmerJayhawk Are they soft leather, Farmer?

If only I could afford such luxuries. They’re Adidas Ultra boosts they were kind enough to send me when I was covering the team.

Jul 01, 2019 11:20 AM #688

Big dreams are for the pre-season. Reality will be here soon enough. I guarantee you he will have a better product on the field than what we've seen in a while.

Jul 01, 2019 12:45 PM #689

Going through the Schedule:

  • vs. Indiana State - W
  • vs. Coastal - W
  • @ BC - L
  • vs. WVU - W
  • @ TCU - L
  • vs. OU - L
  • @ UT - L
  • vs. TTU - W
  • vs. KSU - W
  • @ OSU - L
  • @ ISU - L
  • vs. BU - W

It's possible. Not likely, but possible. Probably one of the more favorable schedules we could ask for as far as opponent Home/Away goes.

Jul 02, 2019 12:35 PM #690

Found this humorous: Houston was ranked #19 in the ESPN way too early top 25, now after the Grimes signing they are unranked.

(Don’t pop a gasket Qs mom I know it’s not because of him, I just found it ironic)

Jul 02, 2019 02:29 PM #691

@dylans Everybody else has moved on, grow up with the Q's mom shit and learn to read.

Jul 05, 2019 05:42 PM #692

Houston announced his transfer, mentioned sitting out a year so I guess he didn't get his waiver request.

Jul 05, 2019 06:20 PM #693

@BShark I don't think anyone realistically expected the waiver to be granted, but there was also no harm applying for one either.

Jul 05, 2019 09:21 PM #694

@Texas-Hawk-10 That was my take on it as well. Wanted to mention it for those interested since I saw it pop up.

Jul 13, 2019 02:35 AM #695

Shak Juiston to Oregon. Huge pickup for them. Hope he does well there.

Jul 13, 2019 04:02 AM #696

@FarmerJayhawk me too! I was sure hoping he worked out for us if we didn't get Silvio. Love the way he plays.

Aug 02, 2019 01:24 PM #697

Luinstra ended up at Central Missouri.

Aug 02, 2019 03:33 PM #698

@BShark I think he'll do well there.

Aug 21, 2019 06:26 PM #699

huggy bear loves him some castaways. Maybe he'll get Tom Hanks on his squad one of these years.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/27433680/osabuohien-dismissed-hogs-surfaces-wvu ↗

Sep 17, 2019 10:31 AM #700

Deshawn Corphew is transferring(pushed out) from Texas Tech after Assault allegations have surfaced.

Beard has his work cut out for him now.