Inject these KU quotes into my veins
http://www2.kusports.com/weblogs/tale-tait/2019/apr/29/ku-target-rj-hampton-at-nike-eybl-event-/ ↗
Inject these KU quotes into my veins
http://www2.kusports.com/weblogs/tale-tait/2019/apr/29/ku-target-rj-hampton-at-nike-eybl-event-/ ↗
I feel like as long as KU is in the ballpark, RJ will be a Jayhawk.
KU or Memphis. Dook and UK are out. Honestly wouldn’t surprise me if KU and Memphis split Hampton and Tucker.
FarmerJayhawk said:
KU or Memphis. Dook and UK are out. Honestly wouldn’t surprise me if KU and Memphis split Hampton and Tucker.
:pray_tone2: :pray_tone2: :pray_tone2: :pray_tone2: :pray_tone2:
My offseason wishlist is something like...
RJ Hampton
small gap
Kyree Walker
bigger gap
Tucker
TITANIC GULF
other dudes
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
KU or Memphis. Dook and UK are out. Honestly wouldn’t surprise me if KU and Memphis split Hampton and Tucker.
:pray_tone2: :pray_tone2: :pray_tone2: :pray_tone2: :pray_tone2:
My offseason wishlist is something like...
RJ Hampton
small gap
Kyree Walker
bigger gap
Tucker
TITANIC GULF
other dudes
I think we can land Hampton and Walker/Tucker. We’ve played 3 guys before who can be on the ball: Mason, Graham, Selden. Walker kind of gives me a Selden vibe.
Other dudes!
feel like Snacks is turning a corner ... https://247sports.com/Coach/Jerrance-Howard-1451/AllTimeRecruits/ ↗
BShark said:
Inject these KU quotes into my veins
http://www2.kusports.com/weblogs/tale-tait/2019/apr/29/ku-target-rj-hampton-at-nike-eybl-event-/ ↗
Dam Bud. - If that doesn't do enough to make your body all warm and fuzzy - really don't want to know what does lol. - -I have to contain my hopes and being pumped BUT when you hear comments like that - -how in the hell do you contain that?
Things like how Coach Self has been right there from the beginning. - -How his dad could drop RJ off at Ku and have no problems at all with him being there. - -How Coach Howard? - -is like family being able to Callh im anytime day or night - -just like family. - -I just have to contain my hopes. - -I mean it's like - JUMPIN - - GEE - - HOSSA - -FATS man. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@BShark We gonna land us some Hampton, Enaruna, Holyfield and Tucker. We are recruiting hard in 2020 too, so we're going to be just fine. The above four said mentioned recruits coupled with Braun and McBride will give us a top 5 class. How does a starting lineup of Dok, Holyfield, Enaruna, Hampton and Tucker sound? Then for good measure we'll throw in some Big Dave, Mitch (the NCAA is being totally unjust with the De Sousa handling), Agbaji, McBride and Braun. I smell a run, folks.
If I was a betting man, I'd say our starting lineup next season will be Dotson, Hampton, Ochai, Holyfield, Doke. But we're still months out so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
@FarmerJayhawk I would take that starting lineup, too.
approxinfinity said:
feel like Snacks is turning a corner ... https://247sports.com/Coach/Jerrance-Howard-1451/AllTimeRecruits/ ↗
He's going to get poached for a Head Coaching job in the next 5 years.
I know we love Ochai, but we should say we have two starting spots open and one up for competition with Ochai. Give me 3 of Holyfield, Precious, Tucker, Hampton and Walker.
It would be poetic to see us end up with a stacked roster after all of this crap we've gone through for 2019 recruiting.
RJ, Dotson, Walker backcourt with Garrett, Ochai, and small flurries of McBride off the bench. Also Braun looking handsome and knocking down 3's in blowouts. Yes, please.
If by some miracle Silvio is allowed to play next season not only would that even further enhance our squadron, it would also provide some Doke insurance.
An RJ, Dotson, Walker, Silvio and Doke starting lineup may be the worst shooting lineup in the country lol.
But they'd also be salty af.
Kcmatt7 said:
An RJ, Dotson, Walker, Silvio and Doke starting lineup may be the worst shooting lineup in the country lol.
But they'd also be salty
A little like last season’s UK team, lots of athleticism and bounce, not much marksmanship.
Haven’t paid close enough attention to know how serviceable RJ & Walker are from 3.
ajvan said:
Kcmatt7 said:
An RJ, Dotson, Walker, Silvio and Doke starting lineup may be the worst shooting lineup in the country lol.
But they'd also be salty
A little like last season’s UK team, lots of athleticism and bounce, not much marksmanship.
Haven’t paid close enough attention to know how serviceable RJ & Walker are from 3.
RJ projects to be in the mid 30's from 3, Walker high 30's - low 40's. Dude shot like 47% from 3 last year in HS.
Kcmatt7 said:
I know we love Ochai, but we should say we have two starting spots open and one up for competition with Ochai. Give me 3 of Holyfield, Precious, Tucker, Hampton and Walker.
It would be poetic to see us end up with a stacked roster after all of this crap we've gone through for 2019 recruiting.
Dam really tough to make call with that 5 - -couldn't lose with any BUT I think I would have to go with : - - Holyfield - - Tucker - & slight edge of Hampton over Kyree. -- just my choice - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
rj has add texas tech
It's funny that Kyree shot so well, yet any film I have found doesn't show it at all.
But stats are there to back it up. He's shot 40% from 3 in his entire HS career on 418 attempts. 47% on 117 attempts this past season. That's not a fluke.
RJ has officially reclassified to 2019. He took Duke off of his list and added Texas Tech.
Kcmatt7 said:
It's funny that Kyree shot so well, yet any film I have found doesn't show it at all.
But stats are there to back it up. He's shot 40% from 3 in his entire HS career on 418 attempts. 47% on 117 attempts this past season. That's not a fluke.
He's at least a good enough shooter to make guys stay honest. 117 attempts is more than enough to show he can take and make threes. And he's such a threat off the dribble that his jumper just needs to be adequate, not great.
Usually not a good thing when a player adds a team this late in the game. As we found out with Stanley. I also saw where he is planning on visiting the other 3 schools in May, but no mention of visiting KU.... ( Unless I missed it)
Woodrow said:
Usually not a good thing when a player adds a team this late in the game. As we found out with Stanley. I also saw where he is planning on visiting the other 3 schools in May, but no mention of visiting KU.... ( Unless I missed it)
KU is going in-home. He's already visited KU officially and unofficially so visiting again would be kind redundant.
Correction: he's saying he'll take another unofficial over the summer.
Good Lord RJ is a brick layer. 27% from 3 lol.
Woodrow said:
Usually not a good thing when a player adds a team this late in the game. As we found out with Stanley. I also saw where he is planning on visiting the other 3 schools in May, but no mention of visiting KU.... ( Unless I missed it)
Sounds like a good ole fashioned bidding war...
Shot selection, at least lately. His AAU team is baaaaaad.
Kcmatt7 said:
Good Lord RJ is a brick layer. 27% from 3 lol.
Don't even care tbh lol
Well just finished reading RJ's blog off USA since he made this decision to re-classify.
I think we are still in pretty good shape , although still makes me wonder about Tech.
RJ said Duke wasn't really showing much contact since Stanley committed and Jones coming back and Ellis committing - - He said he wants to sit down and lock down dates set for visits - -do an official to Kentucky & Texas Tech. - -Said and just get back ON CAMPUS at Memphis - -and KU - - since he had already taken officals to those Schools.
Talked again about Coach Self and Jerrance was the 1st blue blood to offer and has always been there from the beginning and they keep preaching if I come there I could be their go to guy and could help get them back to the final 4.
Said he liked how Coach Beard used his guards and give them freedom.
Said he wants to get to ALL the Schools really soon and talk to the Coaches - -and talk everything out with his family - -and make his decision.
Sounds to me like he could very easily be pushing up his decision as to where he is going to commit , by wanting to get back to these schools and talk to Coaches and then get with his family. - would not be surprised to see him move that date up. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Andrew Slater thinks overseas / China could be a option for RJ as well.
Woodrow said:
Andrew Slater thinks overseas / China could be a option for RJ as well.
Gross if true.
BShark said:
Woodrow said:
Andrew Slater thinks overseas / China could be a option for RJ as well.
Gross if true.
it will be college for him
BShark said:
Woodrow said:
Andrew Slater thinks overseas / China could be a option for RJ as well.
Gross if true.
In the words of the great philosopher Randy Moss, "Straight cash, homie."
Still think he goes to college though. The kids that went to China didn't have a good time.
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
Woodrow said:
Andrew Slater thinks overseas / China could be a option for RJ as well.
Gross if true.
In the words of the great philosopher Randy Moss, "Straight cash, homie."
Still think he goes to college though. The kids that went to China didn't have a good time.
Yeah China seems like a terrible option. Australia seems much better tbh.
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
Woodrow said:
Andrew Slater thinks overseas / China could be a option for RJ as well.
Gross if true.
In the words of the great philosopher Randy Moss, "Straight cash, homie."
Still think he goes to college though. The kids that went to China didn't have a good time.
Yeah China seems like a terrible option. Australia seems much better tbh.
Very odd place to work from what I've heard. I've never been myself but a former boss was on a trade mission over there and did not have particularly good things to say.
Woodrow said:
Andrew Slater thinks overseas / China could be a option for RJ as well.
No way will that happen. - I pretty dam sure his Daddy would not let that happen. - Way to many really good scenario for him here in the good ol USA
Family type atmosphere seems pretty important to them!
@jayballer73 He's going to sign with KU. He and his father have both all but said so. We broke out the Asses From Young Lasses campaign.
BShark said:
Yeah China seems like a terrible option. Australia seems much better tbh.
I hear Perth is Paradise.
:eyes:
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
:eyes:
Beat me to it! Not wasting any time.
The timing here seems uh uh uh pretty uh good.
I think things are shaping up pretty good for us to not only land RJ but be a much improved team for next season. I’m fairly confident Dot isn’t going to be a first rounder and will return for next season. If we can get Silvio cleared and stay away from sanctions, we could have a legit shot at a FF.
@approxinfinity I have been to Perth, great women but it is no paradise.
Although made me look a 2nd time - -still not overly concerned about Tech - -Still more worried about Memphis with the class Penny is assembling. - Just think Tech coming in WAY to late.
With the things that RJ and his dad has had to say about Ku and the staff. - his dad talking about Howard and him being like family - -how Jerrance is always there - -how he feels he can talk to him at any time -whether its 3:00 in the day - -or 3 at night. - -just like family.
How they talk about his Dad saying he feels comfortable and would not have any problem dropping RJ off at KU and feeling comfortable with it. - How RJ stating that KU has been there from day 1. - -talking about how he could be the guy we run the offense through. - -RJ come here and run the back court with Devon? - -like they were talking about that could very easily be THE BEST back court in the Nation.
You talk about timing? - -Perfect timing for Coach Self to have an in-home visit with RJ last night. - ya know? - -the team that has been there from the beginning. - -Yet even after saying this - -by a chance he doesn't land here - -then my other choice is very interested in us - - Kyree Walker just like a article I read yesterday he is talented enough by far they describe him as a positionless type player - -that much of an athlete - -absolute Freak. - -we gonna be ok - -WITH RJ - -or Kyree - dude is a beast. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
HighEliteMajor said:
Uh, Texas Tech ...
Just good business to add a 3rd bidder for your services. Especially one in Texas that can hide "benefits" a little easier than elsewhere.
If that in-home visit was good news hallelujah. The timing of it all would certainly point in that direction.
@BeddieKU23 Trials have proved to be an absolute joke.
How many programs have been at least slightly implicated now? KU, Duke, Texas, Oklahoma State, Creighton, Oregon, Miami, UNC, UK, TCU, USC, South Carolina, Arizona, Depaul, Louisville, Syracuse, Michigan State, Alabama, A&M, Utah, Michigan, Cleveland State, LSU, Western Kentucky, Mississippi State, Xavier, Washington, Florida State, SMU, Arkansas, Nebraska, Ole Miss, Wake Forest, Tulsa, ECU, Clemson, UConn, Arizona State, Penn St., Notre Dame, and Pitt.
Did I miss anyone? I'm counting 41 programs so far. Just in the trials... Yea not widespread at all.
What are you looking for in a school?
"Just somewhere I can say is home. Somewhere that feels like a family. I want the coach to let us play through mistakes, play early and often. If a coach lets me do that, I think I’ll be fine."
On Kansas
"Kansas, they’ve been on me hard since my freshman year. Coach Self is a great guy. Him and coach Jerrance Howard have really talked to me the hardest about reclassifying in the 2019 class. They’re really just telling me they’re gonna have a good group of guys around me to play point guard, and off the ball."
R.J. Hampton recruiting prediction
Kansas. The Jayhawks don’t have a superstar recruit already committed for next season, but Hampton would change that. He’d start in the backcourt likely alongside sophomore Devon Dotson to give the Jayhawks a two point guard look reminiscent of the one they once ran with Frank Mason and Devonte’ Graham. Expect the Jayhawks to be a top-10 team in the preseason polls with Hampton.
Super hot RJ info on the Phog from a guy down in Texas.
Highlights: Duke essentially chose Stanley over RJ. The coach this guy knows felt Duke was his first choice and dream school. Another poster backed this up. Thanks for derping, Duke. Self was behind the reclass talk from the start, he started the talk over a year ago. So, Self being there on the day he announced it, is huge for KU. Last big thing is he believes KU will be the choice because playing on the biggest possible stage in America and being a title threat is what matters the most to RJ AND his dad.
Buckle up this is going to get wild.
BShark said:
What are you looking for in a school?
"Just somewhere I can say is home. Somewhere that feels like a family. I want the coach to let us play through mistakes, play early and often. If a coach lets me do that, I think I’ll be fine."
On Kansas
"Kansas, they’ve been on me hard since my freshman year. Coach Self is a great guy. Him and coach Jerrance Howard have really talked to me the hardest about reclassifying in the 2019 class. They’re really just telling me they’re gonna have a good group of guys around me to play point guard, and off the ball."
R.J. Hampton recruiting prediction
Kansas. The Jayhawks don’t have a superstar recruit already committed for next season, but Hampton would change that. He’d start in the backcourt likely alongside sophomore Devon Dotson to give the Jayhawks a two point guard look reminiscent of the one they once ran with Frank Mason and Devonte’ Graham. Expect the Jayhawks to be a top-10 team in the preseason polls with Hampton.
who was this from? -- RJ's Dad pretty much summed up the family part when he said Jerrence was like family - - felt like he could call him anytime - I think we are in good shape. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
Super hot RJ info on the Phog from a guy down in Texas.
Highlights: Duke essentially chose Stanley over RJ. The coach this guy knows felt Duke was his first choice and dream school. Another poster backed this up. Thanks for derping, Duke. Self was behind the reclass talk from the start, he started the talk over a year ago. So, Self being there on the day he announced it, is huge for KU. Last big thing is he believes KU will be the choice because playing on the biggest possible stage in America and being a title threat is what matters the most to RJ AND his dad.
Buckle up this is going to get wild.
Again like you have said and makes sense and plus was on RJ hard about re-classifying how HUGE was it for us/Bill to have an in home visit the day he announces that he IS re-classifying? - -HUGE my man REALY HUGE and to be the only one - - JUMPIN - -GEE---HOSSIE - - TOADS - - -really weird though Duke backing off and taking Stanley over RJ? - hmmm - their loss our gain? - sure the hell hope so. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
Super hot RJ info on the Phog from a guy down in Texas.
Highlights: Duke essentially chose Stanley over RJ. The coach this guy knows felt Duke was his first choice and dream school. Another poster backed this up. Thanks for derping, Duke. Self was behind the reclass talk from the start, he started the talk over a year ago. So, Self being there on the day he announced it, is huge for KU. Last big thing is he believes KU will be the choice because playing on the biggest possible stage in America and being a title threat is what matters the most to RJ AND his dad.
Buckle up this is going to get wild.
If we lose this one, it'll be a f***ing heartbreaker.
@Kcmatt7 Agree.
And some people don't like that comment about a coach that lets his players play. BUT GUESS WHAT DIDN'T HURT LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER? Oh right Grimes playing over 30mpg despite SUCKING OUT LOUD and being the worst rotation player on the roster. It didn't really change the trajectory of last years team much and WILL pay dividends in recruiting down the road.
BShark said:
@Kcmatt7 Agree.
And some people don't like that comment about a coach that lets his players play. BUT GUESS WHAT DIDN'T HURT LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER? Oh right Grimes playing over 30mpg despite SUCKING OUT LOUD and being the worst rotation player on the roster. It didn't really change the trajectory of last years team much and WILL pay dividends in recruiting down the road.
Bill had to do it at some point... No better time than when your best player is injured and your bench is thinner than single ply toilet paper.
Feeling even better about landing RJ now.
BShark said:
Feeling even better about landing RJ now.
Why is that bud? - -more news?
Just tons of good vibes and stories. Seems like KU is firmly in the lead here.
Is he a projected 2 year guy? Or 3 year?
Please don’t tell me he’s a OAD.
And what do you call guys like grimes? DOAD? (Delusional one and done)
Bosthawk said:
Is he a projected 2 year guy? Or 3 year?
Please don’t tell me he’s a OAD.And what do you call guys like grimes? DOAD? (Delusional one and done)
OAD all the way. Being projected as a lottery pick
I’m for the most part against OADs but right now I don’t care we need some spark
Well if he’s a lottery pick level guy, then odds are payola will be a factor.
let’s hope adidas has gotten better bagmen than gassnola and gatto!! 😁
Is he better than Wiggins, Xavier, or josh? So one year of this freshman kid will make us that much better? He may be an important piece, I can only hope. and Self will be obliged to give him lotsa minutes despite his inexperience. Best case scenario is he shoots the lights out in tourney play ala Newman.
When are we going to get off the crackpipe of OAD mania?
We gonna land some Hampton and Holyfield, and Enaruna as well, just watch and see. If we play our cards right Tucker, too. Top 5 class with Braun (who I am high on) and McBride (who I am not low on). Coach recruiting (he be pissed!) hard for 2020 and 21, we will be just fine. Don't forget, he'll only have to add pieces, we'll actually have a bench.
Bosthawk said:
When are we going to get off the crackpipe of OAD mania?
The rule will be gone soon enough. But to answer your question maybe about the time KU has a new coach.
Bosthawk said:
Well if he’s a lottery pick level guy, then odds are payola will be a factor.
let’s hope adidas has gotten better bagmen than gassnola and gatto!! 😁Is he better than Wiggins, Xavier, or josh? So one year of this freshman kid will make us that much better? He may be an important piece, I can only hope. and Self will be obliged to give him lotsa minutes despite his inexperience. Best case scenario is he shoots the lights out in tourney play ala Newman.
When are we going to get off the crackpipe of OAD mania?
I would say he is better then Xavier - -and one year of him will YES make us much better here was a little that was said about him from past weekends EBYL circuit:
RJ was playing against 3 top 10 recruits from 2020 - which is the class RJ was in until re-classifying , and 2 top players from 2021. - He had 115 points over the weekend for an average of 28.8 ppg. Absolutely has the ability to be able to change speed an direction due to his athleticism and handles.
One of the big things in his recruitment with Coach that KU was telling him he comes here - - we will run the offense through him and he is the type for sure that can get us back to the final four. - Bill was the one who was the 1st and really pushed for him to re-classify - -we were the 1st blue blood to offer RJ - been in on him from the get go. - He would step right in to the starting line up - rather it be at the # 1 - -OR the 2 - absolute need/want - kid is a stud. - People said he is probably the best guard regardless of any class. - THIS we need - -we NEED/want. - -and bad - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Bosthawk said:
Is he a projected 2 year guy? Or 3 year?
Please don’t tell me he’s a OAD.And what do you call guys like grimes? DOAD? (Delusional one and done)
I think we need a new acronym for Grimes: DAD (Dud and done)
Last 3 CB picks for Hampton have been to Memphis. Penny has a real legit shot to close with Hampton, Precious , and Boogie.
Woodrow said:
Last 3 CB picks for Hampton have been to Memphis. Penny has a real legit shot to close with Hampton, Precious , and Boogie.
And somehow still end up in the NIT. Would suck though, for sure.
As long as we land Tucker I suppose it'll all be fine. But man the staff put the time in, we're the ones who talked him into reclassing, and then a whiff? Just seems so shitty.
Something just smells about this whole recruiting year. - -Hardaway ain't that good of coach - -that school is BY FAR from a blueblood. - -DEEP POCKETS - -ya that's more like it. - They also getting another pick for Precious - - ummm NOPE. - of course it was the same guy that predicted Hampton to Memphis that picked Precious, - -something just not right
@KirkIsMyHinrich two were on Tuesday and one was today.
Well, if true (Hampton going to Memphis) that would seem to be saying - yes, I'm reading tea leaves here - that Dotson is going to come back. I've never said that I don't want him to come back, only that I didnt think that he would. Reason being, I think Hampton wants the ball in his hands and that he doesn't want another PG around. Anyway, we shall see. PS - to be honest, I'm not a big fan of these late commits.
Doesn’t Memphis have a PG in the fold already?
Gorilla72 said:
Doesn’t Memphis have a PG in the fold already?
They have a few. But if money is what they want money is what they get
Isaac Simpson from rivals picked Hampton to go to Duke. Is he a legit source?
rockchalkwyo said:
Isaac Simpson from rivals picked Hampton to go to Duke. Is he a legit source?
Duke is still cut from his list as of now. Looks like he is assuming they will get back in.
FWIW I'm not sure Hampton will even get to Tech for a visit. Sounds like window dressing more than anything. UA plus the hometown(ish) school. UK is also out.
FarmerJayhawk said:
FWIW I'm not sure Hampton will even get to Tech for a visit. Sounds like window dressing more than anything. UA plus the hometown(ish) school. UK is also out.
Dotson, Hampton, Tucker, Agbaji, Garrett is a pretty okay guard rotation. Factor in the bigs and it would one of Self's best rosters in quite some time...
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
FWIW I'm not sure Hampton will even get to Tech for a visit. Sounds like window dressing more than anything. UA plus the hometown(ish) school. UK is also out.
Dotson, Hampton, Tucker, Agbaji, Garrett is a pretty okay guard rotation. Factor in the bigs and it would one of Self's best rosters in quite some time...
This is the dream.... I'm just trying to not get myself too hyped. The way everything looks to be playing out it seems to be one of the more likely scenarios.
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
FWIW I'm not sure Hampton will even get to Tech for a visit. Sounds like window dressing more than anything. UA plus the hometown(ish) school. UK is also out.
Dotson, Hampton, Tucker, Agbaji, Garrett is a pretty okay guard rotation. Factor in the bigs and it would one of Self's best rosters in quite some time...
That's the guard rotation I use in NCAA Hoops 2k8. We wreck people. It's cool because you can download new rosters every year.
FarmerJayhawk said:
FWIW I'm not sure Hampton will even get to Tech for a visit. Sounds like window dressing more than anything. UA plus the hometown(ish) school. UK is also out.
Sorry bud -- I'm kind of thick and slow sorry. - So you saying you don't think he will even make the Tech visit - - - WHY - - is that? - and here is where I'm confused - -UA plus the hometown ish school? - -what's that mean -- sorry - -I knew Kentucky was out - -or figured that for awhile now - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
UA = Under Armour that way RJ has a school for every shoeco on his list.
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
FWIW I'm not sure Hampton will even get to Tech for a visit. Sounds like window dressing more than anything. UA plus the hometown(ish) school. UK is also out.
Dotson, Hampton, Tucker, Agbaji, Garrett is a pretty okay guard rotation. Factor in the bigs and it would one of Self's best rosters in quite some time...
IF this did work out like you have listed - -then Braun redshirt for sure huh? - it WOULD be nice. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 No worries my dude. I'm saying it may not happen and I'm not sure RJ is that into Tech. He has them on his list because he wants an Under Armour school since he used to play on their shoe circuit and it's a Texas school. Have to keep the locals interested, even though Lubbock might as well be on Mars compared to Dallas.
Oh yes, if we got RJ and Tucker I'd think Braun would RS.
@FarmerJayhawk Lubbock is awful. I can think of only one reason to want to play there.
FarmerJayhawk said:
@jayballer73 No worries my dude. I'm saying it may not happen and I'm not sure RJ is that into Tech. He has them on his list because he wants an Under Armour school since he used to play on their shoe circuit and it's a Texas school. Have to keep the locals interested, even though Lubbock might as well be on Mars compared to Dallas.
Oh yes, if we got RJ and Tucker I'd think Braun would RS.
Well if he wants to play for an UA School then that takes us out for sure then right?
@jayballer73 He doesn't. It's just a token of respect.
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
FWIW I'm not sure Hampton will even get to Tech for a visit. Sounds like window dressing more than anything. UA plus the hometown(ish) school. UK is also out.
Dotson, Hampton, Tucker, Agbaji, Garrett is a pretty okay guard rotation. Factor in the bigs and it would one of Self's best rosters in quite some time...
You're going to jinx it.
BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk Lubbock is awful. I can think of only one reason to want to play there.
The tacos are amazing
BShark said:
@jayballer73 He doesn't. It's just a token of respect.
could you imagine - -if it all worked out in the back court that you mentioned - and then by some chance we could get Holyfield AND even Enurana to go along with Doke - - Mc Cormack & Mitch in the front line?
Are you feeling it...? Hampton and Tucker,,,, Holyfield and Enaruna,,,,?
Marco said:
Are you feeling it...? Hampton and Tucker,,,, Holyfield and Enaruna,,,,?
I wish -- but NOPE
RJ Social Media Update:
Follows Ochai, Garrett and Grimes on Twitter.
Follows Elliott and Dotson on instagram, though neither recent. He did recently follow an edits guy though.
EVAN DANIELS WITH THE KU CRYSTAL BALL DROP TODAY.
Kcmatt7 said:
EVAN DANIELS WITH THE KU CRYSTAL BALL DROP TODAY.
Oh My!
Hampton's 4 schools are Kansas, Memphis, Tech, and Kentucky, right? So why is he getting predictions to go to Duke?
When he puts them in, you know shit's real.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Hampton's 4 schools are Kansas, Memphis, Tech, and Kentucky, right? So why is he getting predictions to go to Duke?
Presumably some people think Duke could get back involved after Boogie leaving.
@KirkIsMyHinrich People most likely had Duke picked before he dropped them and are too lazy to go back and change the pick.
That is one of the huge problems with the CB. That happens quite often.
Woodrow said:
@KirkIsMyHinrich People most likely had Duke picked before he dropped them and are too lazy to go back and change the pick.
That is one of the huge problems with the CB. That happens quite often.
Oddly enough, not the case here. 4/27 from our guy at the Phog. It was right when Boogie decommitted.
Bet he changes it now though lol.
The possimplible continues to get more and more likely every day that passes...
I'll never ever ever ever ever doubt Bill again if he pulls it all off.
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So what's going on w/Silvio? Hearing he was invited to abcdefg league but not going. Anybody else hear this?
Crimsonorblue22 said:
So what's going on w/Silvio? Hearing he was invited to abcdefg league but not going. Anybody else hear this?
Whispers he’ll be back...
@FarmerJayhawk 🗣 why is it a secret?
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@FarmerJayhawk 🗣 why is it a secret?
It's just a rumor and I have no idea the validity of it. These things don't usually leak unless the school or the NCAA is waiting to announce something. Remember the Seth Davis fiasco?
I honestly believe Silvio is back regardless of the way the appeal goes. I don't see how leaving is the better option at this point. Him saying he was leaving if it got denied seemed to just be posturing. Which I don't blame them for doing.
Kcmatt7 said:
EVAN DANIELS WITH THE KU CRYSTAL BALL DROP TODAY.
PLAYA DONT PLAY AROUND WITH HIS PICKS
Kcmatt7 said:
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Woodrow said:
@Kcmatt7 If you are talking about Ryan his pick was made 4/27/2018.
You're right. I totally thought he had just made it.
He isn't allowed to put in picks anymore fwiw. So all his picks will be quite old.
Why can't he put in picks?
Only 24/7 staff can and he isn't anymore. He was actually never KU staff he did work for the Ole Miss site iirc. I think there are a few exceptions for big time insiders like Slater can still pick.
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Woodrow said:
@Kcmatt7 If you are talking about Ryan his pick was made 4/27/2018.
You're right. I totally thought he had just made it.
He isn't allowed to put in picks anymore fwiw. So all his picks will be quite old.
Why can't he put in picks?
Only 24/7 staff can and he isn't anymore. He was actually never KU staff he did work for the Ole Miss site iirc. I think there are a few exceptions for big time insiders like Slater can still pick.
Well Noel was pretty shit at picks anyways.
@Kcmatt7 Well, he just gets his info mainly from Matt Scott I think. Which is...actually close to as good as it gets. Matt is a real insider with a legit connection to the program he's just thrown bullshit at us a couple times (Trae Young was really egregious) and has been outright lied to a few times.
JUST GOT ANOTHER PICK FROM A DUKE GUY.
If Slater puts in an RJ to KU pick I am gonna explode.
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
Slater thinks RJ’s going to China.
He's still stuck on that? Was wondering on that globe. Hope he's wrong as I'm really hoping that doesn't become a trend.
China? Seems hard to get info from over there. Players that have gone seem to have fallen in a hole with no headlines about them. These kids thrive on headlines in US papers. China ball isn’t very good. Yet.
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
Slater thinks RJ’s going to China.
He's still stuck on that? Was wondering on that globe. Hope he's wrong as I'm really hoping that doesn't become a trend.
That was my read anyway. Overseas
Edit to add: Australia.
Kcmatt7 said:
When he puts them in, you know shit's real.
ya he usually is pretty solid - -waits til later a lot of times - -but one of the better one to predict
KU IS UP TO 33%
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
EVAN DANIELS WITH THE KU CRYSTAL BALL DROP TODAY.
PLAYA DONT PLAY AROUND WITH HIS PICKS
ya, he is usually pretty dam good. - -One thing I have noticed is seems like these other so called experts kind of play off him - he picks they usually follow suit. - -Thing is if this turns out - -then chances are Rayjon won't be coming - yet if we get either would be good --ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Room for both the way I'm looking at it.
Honestly, I think Garrett is about to get the squeeze on minutes if we do end up with both.
Kcmatt7 said:
Room for both the way I'm looking at it.
Honestly, I think Garrett is about to get the squeeze on minutes if we do end up with both.
Garrett and Agbaji would both be coming off the bench. Garrett will get minutes though lets not kid ourselves.
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Room for both the way I'm looking at it.
Honestly, I think Garrett is about to get the squeeze on minutes if we do end up with both.
Garrett and Agbaji would both be coming off the bench. Garrett will get minutes though lets not kid ourselves.
I guess maybe 10-15 mpg. But still, less than the 28 mpg he was getting this year.
And I still think with the way Ochai finished that he should be coming off of the bench anyways.
Either way, a good problem to have
PICK ARE COMEING IN FOR KU AT 38%
Everyone is going to follow Daniels.
I'm interested in Meyer's and Slater at this point.
Kcmatt7 said:
Everyone is going to follow Daniels.
I'm interested in Meyer's and Slater at this point.
Same on Slater but Meyer is w/e.
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Room for both the way I'm looking at it.
Honestly, I think Garrett is about to get the squeeze on minutes if we do end up with both.
Garrett and Agbaji would both be coming off the bench. Garrett will get minutes though lets not kid ourselves.
I think he gets his minutes , maybe not as many - - main reason being I think he has even played a little 3 hasn't he? - between giving spot minutes for all 3 - he will get his minutes.
Doesn't have to be many or a lot at a time - -I hate giving up his presence on the defensive end. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Kcmatt7 said:
Everyone is going to follow Daniels.
I'm interested in Meyer's and Slater at this point.
exactly my friend - - I said the same earlier -Evan usually holds of some UNLESS it's just a sure bet early - -these other so called experts kind of just follow lead. - -If we are up to 38% - we were 33% - then that means like the last 4 CB's have been Ku.
You have Daniels -- the Duke guy - - If I were a betting man - - Chris Fisher made his pick - -it is a VIP pick so couldn't see - - -but I would bet anything it was a KU pick -then this last pick - -things a shifting - - something might have leaked. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Russ Wood on rivals picked KU for RJ this evening. Does anyone prefer rivals over 24/7 or vis versa? The only difference I can see is the people behind the picks in rivals have a higher percentage. That said I don’t know the credibility of anyone like most of you.
rockchalkwyo said:
Russ Wood on rivals picked KU for RJ this evening. Does anyone prefer rivals over 24/7 or vis versa? The only difference I can see is the people behind the picks in rivals have a higher percentage. That said I don’t know the credibility of anyone like most of you.
Guys that matter: Slater, Daniels, Bossi
That's close to it. Most people change their picks right near the end when it's all but known to everyone anyway.
@jayballer73 CHRIS FISHER PICK KU AT 5/6/19 TIME 5:10PM
@JAYHAWKFAN214 - -ya I know - -I just screwed up my people had the wrong person it was Watson
It is tie up 43% ku and Memphis
Hampton, Tucker, Holyfield and Enaruna. Feeling it yet?
Well now even with Memphis 43 %- - -43 % - makes like the last 5 picks for KU. -Chad Lykins predicted KU at 10:42 last night - - also saw a CB pick for Boogie Ellis to Memphis. -- Sounds like to me that quite possibly -things have flipped. -
Again though how will this effect Rayjon? - Possibly Rayjon play at the 2? Or will it be enough to shove him to Auburn? - -Devon more likely then not gonna be running the Point - - --UNLESS somebody knows something - - Devon not coming back. If Devon comes back - - which I fully think he will - -he will run the point and RJ very well could play the 2 - -and Rayjon? - - hope it all works out. - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I’m claiming myself down.
I’d really like to see Memphis land a few more guys just really steer Hampton here. Always that chance Daniels has bad info.
Kcmatt7 said:
I’m claiming myself down.
I’d really like to see Memphis land a few more guys just really steer Hampton here. Always that chance Daniels has bad info.
I think Memphis is going to get Lester on Friday the also Precious and Boogie. So that’s 3 more guys. Obviously if they needed too they would make room for RJ , but I think that puts them at 13.
Side note that’s a monster class for Penny. I would assume top 3 in the country.
Kcmatt7 said:
Room for both the way I'm looking at it.
Honestly, I think Garrett is about to get the squeeze on minutes if we do end up with both.
wouldn’t that be nice?!?
dylans said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Room for both the way I'm looking at it.
Honestly, I think Garrett is about to get the squeeze on minutes if we do end up with both.
wouldn’t that be nice?!?
The dream....
Seriously though, having Garrett be able to come in and either be an energy guy or a fresh defender to close out games is the perfect role for him.
We are ahead
If I did my math and guessing right the last CB changed from Memphis to something other than KU seeing as how we’re still at 43%. Either way we’re up!!
KU MOVIEING UP
Josh Gordon at 9:59 put his CB pick in for KU - -We now in the lead checking in at 50% for KU and 29 % for Memphis - -keep on Rollin. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Another pick for KU...from a Memphis guy...
BShark said:
Another pick for KU...from a Memphis guy...
Dam - -they must of surrendered - - That's why we starting to see more Boogie for Memphis.
You think about it though - -Memphis got a VERY solid class with Wiseman - - if the get Boogie - -they get Precious and others
The only pick that counts:
Has RJ registered his CB pick yet? 🤔
Ok got a couple of questions guys , bare with me. - -So let's play this out IF - RJ does indeed end up committing to us -again how would this effect Rayjon Tucker committing here? - I just think it makes all the difference in the world , I mean I can live with it for sure but I'm just curious.
I think if indeed RJ commits -- Rayjon goes to Auburn, the way look at it is - -Devon comes back ( which I fully expect ) that takes care of the PG - - so then that moves RJ over to the 2 spot. - -I don't think Tucker backing up anyone for his ONE year left - so I think if RJ ends up with us - he either lands at Auburn - - OR stays in the NBA draft -which kind of Sucks - -But talk to me - -let me know.
2nd thing: - -With RJ re-classifying and IF he commits to us then , I would think a big thing for us , would be - -a thing I think we would want would be for Kyree to stay in the 2020 class right , for next year. - -slide right in to RJ'S spot. - - I think in the end - - he too though will end up reclassifying which doesn't bode well if RJ lands here. - - Although people have been calling him a player that can play almost any spot. -- Maybe we could work him at the 3 - -talk to me let me know
Last thing guys is has anyone heard anything about a timeline for Holyfield as to when he wants to decide?
Had to laugh at a comment off the phog about RJ - -they were talking about RJ'S timeline for announcing - saying they look for him to possibly move up his announcement - -talking about him saying he was planning on enrolling wherever he went for the summer 2nd semester classes. - -some was saying why wouldn't he? - -here is the funny part I thought guy says : - -Maybe he is waiting to announce in July/August so he can get his academics in order so he can enroll. Umm the kid has his academics in order - -- - - Rj has like a 3.75 GPA which last time I knew is pretty dam good and like what a 1250 core? - -is that right? - sounds pretty solid to me. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Just got another pick from Jason Scheer a Arizona guy we are now at 53% -to 27 %
I have been reliably informed that Hampton and Boogie are mutually exclusive for Memphis.
FarmerJayhawk said:
I have been reliably informed that Hampton and Boogie are mutually exclusive for Memphis.
Ummm sure not what the CB's Are indicating
FarmerJayhawk said:
I have been reliably informed that Hampton and Boogie are mutually exclusive for Memphis.
I think that makes a lot of sense considering both want to be on the ball as much as possible and one of their only good returning players is a PG.
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
I have been reliably informed that Hampton and Boogie are mutually exclusive for Memphis.
Ummm sure not what the CB's Are indicating
Sometimes people are wrong. KU feels like they have a great shot here.
Brother!🤯
FarmerJayhawk said:
I have been reliably informed that Hampton and Boogie are mutually exclusive for Memphis.
I am confused now. You are saying that Memphis is only taking one of them and NOT both if possible. Correct?
Woodrow said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
I have been reliably informed that Hampton and Boogie are mutually exclusive for Memphis.
I am confused now. You are saying that Memphis is only taking one of them and NOT both if possible. Correct?
Memphis will not get both Hampton and Boogie.
@FarmerJayhawk knows and has a good nose. Definitely trust his info bucketeers.
Did he pick Duke yet???
BeddieKU23 said:
Did he pick Duke yet???
lol
BeddieKU23 said:
Did he pick Duke yet???
I heard that they gaining old Mo - -ALL CB's - will probably change to Duke tomorrow -- Also got a friend of a friend that has a farther-in-law that has a girl on the side - -that has a friend - -that has another friend - who is a friend of the janitor - -that has a friend that's is the water boy - -that has a friend that says - - -YA
I think I'll stick with Evans PICK jus the same ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Did he pick Duke yet???
lol
I thought it was appropriate. I'll go back to my watering hole until he decides. Praying for the best
IF IT HOLD LIKE IT IS IT WILL BE KU FOR RJ
RCJHRJGKU
just keeps getting bigger and bigger - -mercy wish I could hear someone saying that for other things lol - - -well anyway Adam Duke predicted Ku - -we are at now 60% KU - - & 20 % Memphis - - come a long ways from 5 %. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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I just looked on rivals.... yes I know it’s not as good as 24/7 CB picks. Any who Bill Hipple picked Tech.
Who is Bill Hipple?
Woodrow said:
Who is Bill Hipple?
He’s the guy that picked Tech.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
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The temperature, it has risen.
Just saying though, lots of moving parts here. Not sure we're at the temperature where the moving parts are fluid though.
If it is at the end of May Kansas Standsat a good precision
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
If it is at the end of May Kansas Standsat a good precision
English please?
Gorilla72 said:
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
If it is at the end of May Kansas Standsat a good precision
English please?
IF WE KEEP ON GETING ARE PICK MOVED UP TO 100% WE ARE STANDSAT IN A GOOD PRECISION WITH RJ
well that settled it LOL
Let me translate... If it gets to the end of May Kansas must use precision in their decisions to perhaps stand in a good position.
The plan is for Boogie Ellis to sign a LOI, which means he has to decide within the next week. That will tell what we need to know.
It keep going up for R.J. AND KU
Just Scott Chasen. I like Scott, but he's in the dark other than a morsel here or there from the staff.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Just Scott Chasen. I like Scott, but he's in the dark other than a morsel here or there from the staff.
WE ARE STILL ON TOP THO
FarmerJayhawk said:
Just Scott Chasen. I like Scott, but he's in the dark other than a morsel here or there from the staff.
He's a beat writer is the way I like to put it.
Meyer still hasn't flipped his pick yet - - - -Nothing out of slater yet. - those are the 2 i'm interested in. -- Especially Meyer. - - WE ARE NOW AT 62 % -- TO Memphis 19 % - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
@jayballer73 Andrew thinks RJ is going overseas. Meyer probably ditto.
Ferguson got paid $500K to go play overseas. I'd imagine RJ is getting offered at least that, probably closer to $750k.
Kcmatt7 said:
Ferguson got paid $500K to go play overseas. I'd imagine RJ is getting offered at least that, probably closer to $750k.
Ironically if he really wants to play he should pick KU instead of overseas. Lots of grown ass men in China and Australia.
Based on previous players who took this route these seem to be the likeliest two. Personally I'd take Australia over China for too many reasons to count.
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Ferguson got paid $500K to go play overseas. I'd imagine RJ is getting offered at least that, probably closer to $750k.
Ironically if he really wants to play he should pick KU instead of overseas. Lots of grown ass men in China and Australia.
Based on previous players who took this route these seem to be the likeliest two. Personally I'd take Australia over China for too many reasons to count.
If he goes overseas, Australia is the best bet. They speak English, so the cultural transition is easier than it is in some of the European leagues. Additionally, while the competition may not be as good, the teams are more well run than the second and third division teams in Europe. And unlike a lot of the European teams, they will play a kid that's only going to be there for a year.
Australia is awesome. No politically correct bs over there. If you’re fat they’ll call you a whale and if you start to cry they’ll ask if the tears taste like gravy. Their PM doesn’t take any crap either. It’s kinda like the US in the 80s when things were awesome.
Kcmatt7 said:
@dylans like the U.S. if we had Universal Healthcare and Stricter Gun Control Laws, Half the cost to attend College (with better repayment plans) and a higher minimum wage.
But I do agree, I love the Australian spirit and attitude towards everyday life.
This is weird but since Australia tightened up their gun laws killing went way down.
Meanwhile there were two major school shootings in the last week or so in the US.
This is really hard to figure out, going to require more time and research.
It's harder in the U.S. context. DoJ spent like a gazillion dollars looking at the effects of the "assault weapons" ban and found exactly nada in terms of effects on homicide rates and crime. Australia also doesn't have a bill of rights so the government can do about whatever it wants.
But anyhoo. Australia is a lot of fun. Beaches are great.
FarmerJayhawk said:
It's harder in the U.S. context. DoJ spent like a gazillion dollars looking at the effects of the "assault weapons" ban and found exactly nada in terms of effects on homicide rates and crime. Australia also doesn't have a bill of rights so the government can do about whatever it wants.
But anyhoo. Australia is a lot of fun. Beaches are great.
Yeah sorry for getting on this bullshit. I almost went deeper too.
BACK TO RJ!
Probably wrong , but I thought I had seen some where his dad said over sea's is not an option
FYI, Jerry Meyer will be on KLWN in about 10 minutes talking RJ.
FarmerJayhawk said:
FYI, Jerry Meyer will be on KLWN in about 10 minutes talking RJ.
1320 am right?
Maybe? This also works http://v6.player.abacast.net/855 ↗
@FarmerJayhawk I never could get that to work. I've tried before for RC Sports Talk. I'm on the newest FF so I really don't get it either.
They might be on iHeart or something too.
It's fine I'm old so I have some radios.
Nothingburger
Heating up. He mentioned the overseas talk and money. Name dropped T Ferg route.
BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk I never could get that to work. I've tried before for RC Sports Talk. I'm on the newest FF so I really don't get it either.
me neither , & my radio hardly picks it up - -heard just a little talking about Over sea's
justanotherfan said:
BShark said:
Kcmatt7 said:
Ferguson got paid $500K to go play overseas. I'd imagine RJ is getting offered at least that, probably closer to $750k.
Ironically if he really wants to play he should pick KU instead of overseas. Lots of grown ass men in China and Australia.
Based on previous players who took this route these seem to be the likeliest two. Personally I'd take Australia over China for too many reasons to count.
If he goes overseas, Australia is the best bet. They speak English, so the cultural transition is easier than it is in some of the European leagues. Additionally, while the competition may not be as good, the teams are more well run than the second and third division teams in Europe. And unlike a lot of the European teams, they will play a kid that's only going to be there for a year.
And the women, I've been there, are freaking 🔥 and love them some American. They like our accent the same way that American women do the English.... I'm just saying....
So what did we get from Meyer interview? - -what did he have to say?
Hold onto your butts. This one could be over pretty soon.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Hold onto your butts. This one could be over pretty soon.
Today soon or Billy/Silvio soon? :p
Reads Dawkins not found guilty of Wire Fraud
Immediately wires RJ's Dad a significant amount of money.
"I'm moving my commitment date up to May."
Nothing going on with this recruitment.
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Hold onto your butts. This one could be over pretty soon.
Today soon or Billy/Silvio soon? :p
Ha! Like could be next week soon.
Now, please, for the love of God, just make sure the Dodge Charger is in HIS name this time.
Boogie Ellis visiting Memphis now. Ovaaaaaa
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Hold onto your butts. This one could be over pretty soon.
Today soon or Billy/Silvio soon? :p
For me - - I would love it to be for Silvio soon - -seems to be getting smokey lol - - just looking for the fire. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
Today soon or Billy/Silvio soon? :p
Now, THAT'S FUNNY!
With Boogie at Memphis for a visit, I'd hate to think Precious is leaning toward KU because RJ might go to Memphis? Not the same positions? Or maybe I'm waiting for the other shoe to fall. Things look TOO good?
@Gorilla72 Precious and RJ are not the same position and likely do not factor into each other at all.
Kcmatt7 said:
Gorilla72 said:
@Kcmatt7 - Isn't Memphis running out of scholarships if they get Boogie and Precious/RJ?
Memphis has 3 left as of now.
1 of them is for Lester
1 of them is for Boogie/RJ
1 of them is for Watford/Precious
Could be that sounds more like Watford is going to commit to Memphis - could be the reason Corey and others changing their CB picks. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I wonder if precious is going to follow RJ like Hurt did with Tre Jones.
I mean one of them needs to pull the trigger already. It's a friggen staring contest right now and one of them needs to blink.
I made a mistake. - First one today , I thought 247 CB showed Watford favoring Memphis - -but looked and he is pretty solid to LSU - but I know there was a lot of talk about Memphis too.
I think this thing is gonna get pretty hot - real soon with these players. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Boogie’s going to pop for Memphis early next week. RJ will then cut them, probably not publicly.
I believe we will receive a package-deal for next season and will all be living in the Precious Hamptons, Lol. But serious, I think they're a package deal, and that we're going to sign both. If Holyfield soon chooses someone other than KU the deal may be all but done.
@FarmerJayhawk You don't think that they want to play together? That's what I mean, not actually paying them.
Marco said:
@FarmerJayhawk You don't think that they want to play together? That's what I mean, not actually paying them.
Not any more than anyone else. Both want to get to the pros ASAP. Anything beyond that is just meh.
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Any rumors of RJ planning a visit to Tech? He got another prediction for Tech on rivals from a guy named B Soliz. The name means nothing to me but should be noted.
Nothing will surprise me this year.
I have yet to see anything about RJ visiting Tech. If they do get a visit, all bets are off imo.
rockchalkwyo said:
Any rumors of RJ planning a visit to Tech? He got another prediction for Tech on rivals from a guy named B Soliz. The name means nothing to me but should be noted.
Nothing will surprise me this year.
Am I seeing double - - triple quadruple lol. - - - -same post over and over and over lol - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Haha sorry guys horrible reception. My goodness
@jayballer73 you can say that again....lol.
Phew! Ok they’re all gone. If we get commitments the way those posts came threw we’ll be solid
rockchalkwyo said:
Haha sorry guys horrible reception. My goodness
It's all good my friend - just had to rub these old eyes thought I had double vision - -but was wrong I was having quadruple vision - -just messing with you -- your fine. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
KUSTEVE said:
@jayballer73 you can say that again....lol.
Lol thought I had to lay down - -thought my head was spinning lmao. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
The platform probably should disable the button after the first click event. I wonder if they've fixed that in later versions of nodebb. We woudl know, if i wasnt an extreme procrastinator :)
Boogie to Memphis as expected.
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@FarmerJayhawk I ride the struggle bus with social media sometimes. What does his bio say?
@KirkIsMyHinrich your question will be answered soon or something to that effect.
@FarmerJayhawk Thank you.
FarmerJayhawk said:
@KirkIsMyHinrich your question will be answered soon or something to that effect.
THAT RIGHT IT HAS TO DO WITH WHAT COLLEGE HE WILL BE GONING TO
FarmerJayhawk said:
@KirkIsMyHinrich your question will be answered soon or something to that effect.
Our answer to where he is going? - I just can't see oversea's
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
@KirkIsMyHinrich your question will be answered soon or something to that effect.
Our answer to where he is going? - I just can't see oversea's
My honest answer is I think Australia. But Kansas if he opts for college.
Australia? Last I knew of Australia they were prepping to get overrun by the Japanese empire, but for our involvement in that little conflict.
@FarmerJayhawk I don't get announcing going to Australia. Seems like something you just do. That's the hope I'm holding onto at this point lol.
@FarmerJayhawk do you know something?
@Crimsonorblue22 I know that overseas is a very real option, with Australia being the likely destination with Under Armour brokering the deal if it happens. And Kansas is firmly in the lead if he goes to college.
Do we know when soon is?
Adidas should put all the money we had that was going to go to recruits that we missed and place it into an RJ Hampton fund.
I don't have a firm date, but in the next 2 weeks seems pretty likely so he can get on campus for summer school.
@FarmerJayhawk it must include his family
FarmerJayhawk said:
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
@KirkIsMyHinrich your question will be answered soon or something to that effect.
Our answer to where he is going? - I just can't see oversea's
My honest answer is I think Australia. But Kansas if he opts for college.
Dam - we will be so screwed - going to 6th 7 th options
Notwithstanding the pain this could cause KU, I really like the idea of shoe companies taking this tact. Players have more choice and can make money. But the choice has always been there.
What is interesting is that steering a kid away from CBB clearly makes the player ineligible. Fraud? No. Just skipping the NCAA altogether, but plainly in the company’s best interests.
What is also interesting is that the shoecos best interests include diversifying their respective holdings.
I wonder if the diversification might have the opportunity to bring more return?
Jerry Meyer flipped his pick to Kansas
FarmerJayhawk said:
Jerry Meyer flipped his pick to Kansas
Hey now we talkin - - So that makes Daniels - - Evans - -& Meyer - usually a pretty dam good sign
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Jerry Meyer flipped his pick to Kansas
Was popping in to post about this. :fingers_crossed:
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
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What’s Duke got to do with this? nm it’s purple.
Dang, yes no, up down, this is crazy!
dylans said:
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
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What’s Duke got to do with this? nm it’s purple.
They don't I just like to put that on there
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Rj and wilson
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Dang, yes no, up down, this is crazy!
man is it lol - -up down up down -- yes no - -yes no lol - - possibly /probably not/probably lol - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
:coffee: :newspaper: :coffee: :pancakes: 5
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Kansas
Coach: Bill Self
2018-19 record: 26-10
Notable players definitely gone: Dedric Lawson, Lagerald Vick, KJ Lawson, Charlie Moore, Quintin Grimes
Other expected departures: N/A
Notable players expected to return: Udoka Azubuike, Devon Dotson, Ochai Agbaji, Marcus Garrett, David McCormack, Mitch Lightfoot
:newspaper: :coffee:
Expected additions: RJ Hampton
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We need some 2019 news... Enaruna was a very solid pickup. And our 2021 squad looks loaded af. But I'd still really like to be a Top 5 team this season with Doke back.
Kcmatt7 said:
We need some 2019 news... Enaruna was a very solid pickup. And our 2021 squad looks loaded af. But I'd still really like to be a Top 5 team this season with Doke back.
Yeah Enaruna was a great pickup. The potential on him is crazy. Normally we'd have to time to enjoy getting a player like him
But when you have the Tucker, RJ, Dotson, De Sousa, Achiuwa, Wilson, Walker, Moss Saga's all going on at the same time it makes it difficult to enjoy
BShark said:
:coffee: :newspaper: :coffee: :pancakes: 5
team logo
KansasCoach: Bill Self
2018-19 record: 26-10
Notable players definitely gone: Dedric Lawson, Lagerald Vick, KJ Lawson, Charlie Moore, Quintin Grimes
Other expected departures: N/A
Notable players expected to return: Udoka Azubuike, Devon Dotson, Ochai Agbaji, Marcus Garrett, David McCormack, Mitch Lightfoot
:newspaper: :coffee:
Expected additions: RJ Hampton
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Do we actually think Gary has insight here?
BeddieKU23 said:
Kcmatt7 said:
We need some 2019 news... Enaruna was a very solid pickup. And our 2021 squad looks loaded af. But I'd still really like to be a Top 5 team this season with Doke back.
Yeah Enaruna was a great pickup. The potential on him is crazy. Normally we'd have to time to enjoy getting a player like him
But when you have the Tucker, RJ, Dotson, De Sousa, Achiuwa, Wilson, Walker, Moss Saga's all going on at the same time it makes it difficult to enjoy
Good gosh, any good news on that very long list of players would be fan-freaking-tastic.
Hnnnggggg
Commit already so we can get you some more help!
Think I posted over in the 2019 recruiting but read where Dylan Prezkop -gave his CB for RJ to KU - -tonight - - KU now at 75 %
@jayballer73 Same post over and over? Come on man! Haha just messing with ya.
Yeah come on RJ just sign already!
rockchalkwyo said:
@jayballer73 Same post over and over? Come on man! Haha just messing with ya.
Yeah come on RJ just sign already!
If he is gonna sign, it has to be by tomorrow. That said we have seen before that players sign and wait to announce.
It doesn’t benefit any player of high ranking to sign a LOI ... don’t understand why they sign. You can get the scholarship without it and if you change your mind before starting classes you can go somewhere else.
Players sign because it's part of the system and generally viewed as the thing to do. I would agree that the smart thing to do for top players would be to not sign. I'd say only the top players because only they can get away with it but as we found out recently the NLI doesn't really protect the player either. Coach K asked Ellis to pound sand so he did.
@BShark Right, it is there to protect the school. To secure the commitment (creating penalty if the player backs out). This is where players have power, and this power is overlooked. RJ has power. Guys who wait have increased leverage because the supply is vastly decreased. Commit to KU. Don’t sign. See how things shake out. If KU gets probation, back out. If another player decides to come that compromises what RJ wants, back out and go somewhere else. The players have power — but the victim narrative is what we hear instead. Just silly.
rockchalkwyo said:
@jayballer73 Same post over and over? Come on man! Haha just messing with ya.
Yeah come on RJ just sign already!
Ahh nice touche lol
BShark said:
rockchalkwyo said:
@jayballer73 Same post over and over? Come on man! Haha just messing with ya.
Yeah come on RJ just sign already!
If he is gonna sign, it has to be by tomorrow. That said we have seen before that players sign and wait to announce.
tomorrow the end of Signing period? - - so Precious won't be signing either huh? - - not announcing till this weekend
In addition, players shouldn’t have to sit when they transfer (ever IMO) but definitely if they leave before the season.
@FarmerJayhawk You’re talking about changing rules. I strongly believe that the better way to approach this is to look for ways the athlete can operate effectively within the rules that he agrees to when he becomes a student-athlete.
When you permit transfers as you suggest, it’s free agency each year and such a system would create chaos. Without that very minor penalty, you’d have the grad transfer thing but with every level of player.
The requirement to sit is a core necessity to maintain stability. If one cares about CBB, they would oppose such a reckless rule change.
HighEliteMajor said:
If one cares about CBB, they would oppose such a reckless rule change.
Or all one cares about is the students who are playing the game above the product of college athletics. I could care less if a few less people watch college sports because they are mad a few more guys a season transferred. I do care that the players, who are the ones putting blood sweat and tears into this for 40+ hours a week, are given every freedom a normal person is given. They are the only ones limited by the system. Not other students. Not coaches. Not administrators. Not professors. Not referees. Not another single person involved.
And, to say that it would create complete chaos is simply untrue. Already, 40% of players transfer by the end of their sophomore year. If anything, this rule change would improve the game because we wouldn't have such a significant amount of talent sitting out each season.
If you can't get players to stay as a coach, maybe your program just sucks. Maybe your an asshole of a coach. Maybe you're a liar. Maybe you're just not a good coach and players think they can develop better somewhere else. Either way, if a coach needs "leverage" in order to keep players, than he probably sucks at his job. Hell, it's part of the reason someone like Mike Rice was able to get away with abusing players at Rutgers.
It's a dumb rule, and assuming it would create anymore chaos than exists isn't supported by anything in the real world. The average person with freedom to change jobs, literally whenever the feel like it, still stays at the same place for 4.6 years. Any logical person wouldn't transfer after their junior season because they would only be 30 credits from a degree and transferring would mean they'd have to go to school for another year without having it paid for by scholarship. So that eliminates a quarter of potential transfers.
I would LOVE to hear why you think it is so reckless to CBB though.
HighEliteMajor said:
@FarmerJayhawk You’re talking about changing rules. I strongly believe that the better way to approach this is to look for ways the athlete can operate effectively within the rules that he agrees to when he becomes a student-athlete.
When you permit transfers as you suggest, it’s free agency each year and such a system would create chaos. Without that very minor penalty, you’d have the grad transfer thing but with every level of player.
The requirement to sit is a core necessity to maintain stability. If one cares about CBB, they would oppose such a reckless rule change.
I agree with you, one-hundred percent. As if there isn't enough grifting already, let's allow the players to come and go as they please. Naw,,,, pass....
Once the NBAs OAD rule is gone I hope that the NCAA requires “student” athletes to stay in school 2 years. But I’d like to see the scholarships guaranteed for 4 years (barring something egregious ie prison). I know you really can’t make this happen, but maybe have the kid sign a contract with the U that has a buyout of whatever a year of that scholarship and housing is really worth. I’d like them to think about it at least. I’m looking at you Grimes...$40k isn’t anything to sneeze at in the G-league.
This might make a decent thread, hint hint. I saw an unread message from this RJ thread and thought, great new news, but I was wrong.
All of you guys do make great points by the way.
dylans said:
Once the NBAs OAD rule is gone I hope that the NCAA requires “student” athletes to stay in school 2 years. But I’d like to see the scholarships guaranteed for 4 years (barring something egregious ie prison). I know you really can’t make this happen, but maybe have the kid sign a contract with the U that has a buyout of whatever a year of that scholarship and housing is really worth. I’d like them to think about it at least. I’m looking at you Grimes...$40k isn’t anything to sneeze at in the G-league.
I don't understand why people keep saying the OAD is going to go away. Players are still going to only go to college for one year and enter the draft. ( Not trying to call you out @dylans ) I just keep hearing people say this it isn't true. I understand that the "elite" players will soon ( hopefully) have the option to go straight to the NBA however, when that rule is put in place there are still going to be OAD players.
@HighEliteMajor Probation could actually be a selling feature for a typical OAD. 10 years ago, they would've said " You don't want to go to "XYZ" because they might be placed on probation and you might not make the NCAA tournament". Now they say " hey, go to XYZ... hopefully they'll get placed on probation, and you won't have to bother with the NCAA tournament. That way you can keep yourself fresh." Would Quentin have been broken up if we hadn't made the tournament last year ... or would he have used that time to select his agent? ( I'm picking on Quentin here- there are several other OADS I could've used).
A great example is Malik Newman's near historic tournament run two years ago. He averaged 32 points per game in a 5 game run, and didn't get a whiff of interest from the NBA during the draft.
Hampton's twitter bio now reads: "your question will be answered soon... maybe, idk I'm kind of sleepy right now."
He also just tweeted that he wishes LE (Little Elm) all the best.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Hampton's twitter bio now reads: "your question will be answered soon... maybe, idk I'm kind of sleepy right now."
He also just tweeted that he wishes LE (Little Elm) all the best.
RJ Hampton watch is in full force. We really need him...
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Hampton's twitter bio now reads: "your question will be answered soon... maybe, idk I'm kind of sleepy right now."
He also just tweeted that he wishes LE (Little Elm) all the best.
THAT WAS FOR THE BASKETBALL TEAM AND THE NEW COACH THAT HE WILL BE WACTHING THEM
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dylans said:
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RJ is just finishing up all the academic stuff to officially graduate. He’ll pick Kansas or the biggest foreign check shortly after.
Could a kid possibly be so cruel to leave us hanging and go to parts unknown? Don't answer that! This recruiting sucks! Do you all think coach knows what will play out? I love d dot and want him back, selfishly, but that's me. He can't hit shots, just layups. Maybe that's enough to keep him. Bilas thinks he needs to stay. It's a pretty crappy draft though, who knows, he ran the team well today! Poised. I'm sick of this! Grimes is a good kid, I don't fault him. I just don't understand him. Royals suck!
Ku Can not have nice things If TuckerStays in the draft then Memphis will Try to Still RJ hampton from ku
98% sure Rayjon is going to college. He’s a fringy top 100 guy on most draft boards.
Tech has had a few players transfer recently. RJ to Tech?
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Tech has had a few players transfer recently. RJ to Tech?
Hasn’t even spoken to the staff in person yet.
@JAYHAWKFAN214 you are killing me!
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Is rayjon playing in combine games?
Crimsonorblue22 said:
Is rayjon playing in combine games?
He didn’t get an invite to either the NBA or G League combine.
Memphis absolutely cannot take both these dudes. Just saying. 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
Evan knows. Follow the thread to get full context. 🐦 View Tweet?s=21
Memphis fans on Twitter (and others) saying if Tucker stays in the draft, a slot opens for RJ Hampton. THAT would be a kick in the b*lls.....
So, who’d like to spank Memphis in the sweet 16 next year?
@FarmerJayhawk So....Does Hampton's decision at least partially depend on whether Dotson is back? Or is he waiting on academic stuff?
Kevin Durant to Memphis. He's been faking an injury this whole time. He just wanted a chance to play for Penny.
@KirkIsMyHinrich LMAO.....PHOF!
Hawk8086 said:
@FarmerJayhawk So....Does Hampton's decision at least partially depend on whether Dotson is back? Or is he waiting on academic stuff?
I don’t think so. It’s more about money overseas.
I really would like to open this site soon and read: - - Hampton & Wilson commit to KU as a package - - Devon Dotson returns to KU -- & Quentin Grimes says he is staying in the NBA draft - - that would be the perfect Christmas present in May lol -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Brand new post if so! Getting depressing hitting on this one🤬
Self has it covered.
And Tech just took another 2019 kid. Pretty sure they’re out of scholarships now.
@jayballer73 - Add a freed SDS to the packages under the tree!
Gorilla72 said:
@jayballer73 - Add a freed SDS to the packages under the tree!
LMAO - - -touche my friend - that would be the Perrrrrrrfect Crimson & Blue Christmas - -would be a HUGE - -ROCK CHALK lol
RJ has another prediction for KU today from Andrew Slater on 247. We’re now at 81%.
rockchalkwyo said:
RJ has another prediction for KU today from my Andrew Slater on 247. We’re now at 81%.
That’s big time. It would be higher if Ryan was still allowed to make picks too. It’s KU or overseas.
RJ needs to pop soon for my sanity.
dylans said:
RJ needs to pop soon for my sanity.
No joke man. Has gone from about popping for KU his sophomore year to a dook lock to well maybe Kentucky to Penny to maybe KU has a shot then oh my it’s KU to hanging out at the zoo with Steve Irwin’s kids maybe.
@FarmerJayhawk they are really cool kids!
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@FarmerJayhawk they are really cool kids!
For sure. Oh, and he picked Kansas for Jalen Wilson too.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@FarmerJayhawk they are really cool kids!
For sure. Oh, and he picked Kansas for Jalen Wilson too.
Somebody else must have gave another for Wilson too - - with Slater's pick last night when I went to bed - -we were at 24 % for Wilson - - got up this morning we are at 29%. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
FarmerJayhawk said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@FarmerJayhawk they are really cool kids!
For sure. Oh, and he picked Kansas for Jalen Wilson too.
IT IS DOWN TO KU TEXAS TECH MEMPHIS UK IS OUT
According to Evan Daniels per RJ's father he may visit with Jalen when he visits. Also targeting first week of June for announcement.
Woodrow said:
According to Evan Daniels per RJ's father he may visit with Jalen when he visits. Also targeting first week of June for announcement.
Dam this just kind of fits into right along with what I was just posting on 2019 recruiting. - -There was a poster saying it was just kind of strange that RJ comes up with a date and saying people would know soon about their questions - - saying hmmm RJ comes up with a date possibly the same day Jalen is visiting KU ?- Now your hearing that RJ could possibly visit KU the same weekend Jalen is visiting? - -maybe possibly they both commit to Ku on the say weekend/same day? - -hmmmmm - interesting - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Lock city
Woodrow said:
According to Evan Daniels per RJ's father he may visit with Jalen when he visits. Also targeting first week of June for announcement.
Good news
Saw where Tucker didn't qualify - -so ineligible for Memphis - -now Memphis feels like they still can get Hampton - - - -RJ farther I guess said on a Memphis show that RJ is Memphis missing piece for that run - I still think we got him. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer73 said:
Saw where Tucker didn't qualify - -so ineligible for Memphis - -now Memphis feels like they still can get Hampton - - - -RJ farther I guess said on a Memphis show that RJ is Memphis missing piece for that run - I still think we got him. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
HIS FARTHER DID SAID THAT
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
jayballer73 said:
Saw where Tucker didn't qualify - -so ineligible for Memphis - -now Memphis feels like they still can get Hampton - - - -RJ farther I guess said on a Memphis show that RJ is Memphis missing piece for that run - I still think we got him. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
HIS FARTHER DID SAID THAT
I know that - - -so what's your point? - and question why you always using noting but caps?
So why didn’t Tucker qualify? He’d still be a nice fallback option.
Please don't go to Memphis, RJ. I feel like it helps that they only have 1 spot open and RJ and Jalen might go to the same place.
RJ just said he could join Jalen on his visit. What point would he have going there if it wasn't to help recruit him
I have no idea what goes on in these players' heads. I just know that Nike/Penny is lobbing bags of cash at people and they have a spot open now.
Memphis isn't getting RJ. Not enough ball to go around with Boogie in the fold.
Is there enough ball to go around at KU if Dotson comes back?
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Is there enough ball to go around at KU if Dotson comes back?
Barely. Grimes has to stay gone.
@jayballer73 maybe it's his thing- - -
@Crimsonorblue22 kinda feels that way. Re Tucker
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark grimes has been digging his own hole🕳
I don't think Grimes has a spot back.
This is straight from Jalen
"With two starters [in the backcourt] leaving for the draft, you never know if they're going to come back or not, so it's always something that we've got to have in our back pocket," Wilson said. "Two high-level players that are going to play a lot for Kansas is always something you've got to think about. With us, we just want to hoop and we just want to get in the best position to put us in the league. To get in the league, you've got to play a lot and perform and lead. And with two players like that, maybe it's not a perfect fit for you. That's what we've been talking about a lot."
And you know if it's on the internet Self knows. I've also heard that even if Grimes returns to college he would likely transfer anyway.
Funny though how recruits see things differently. Mentioning Grimes as a "high level player" presumably because he played a lot but he was sooo bad.
If they don't get drafted they can come back, right?
I still fully expect Grimes to follow through on the draft.
However, with the new rule can't he return to school if he goes undrafted?
Yes.
@jayballer73 grammar police! :)
BShark said:
Yes.
We need another guard still for next year though. I'd guess Kyree Walker ends up a Jayhawk too then if DD is gone.
Kcmatt7 said:
BShark said:
Yes.
We need another guard still for next year though. I'd guess Kyree Walker ends up a Jayhawk too then if DD is gone.
We would need bodies but adding another starter level guy would be a hard sell/tough pull.
You think rj doesn't want d dot?
Crimsonorblue22 said:
You think rj doesn't want d dot?
I don't think it's a huge issue. It's just both DD and Grimes can't return. I just think Dotson himself is leaning towards going. If he is going to get drafted in the first round he has to go. This is a super weak draft, it's his best chance.
@Kcmatt7 In that situation it's RJ, Garrett, Ochai, Wilson, McBride. I can see where you and I would be worried but adding Walker would be hard. He'd see RJ and Wilson as sure fire starters and Self LOVES Garrett and isn't far behind with Ochai.
I wonder if rj's dad is trying to get penny up to dollars?
BShark said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
You think rj doesn't want d dot?
I don't think it's a huge issue. It's just both DD and Grimes can't return. I just think Dotson himself is leaning towards going. If he is going to get drafted in the first round he has to go. This is a super weak draft, it's his best chance.
@Kcmatt7 In that situation it's RJ, Garrett, Ochai, Wilson, McBride. I can see where you and I would be worried but adding Walker would be hard. He'd see RJ and Wilson as sure fire starters and Self LOVES Garrett and isn't far behind with Ochai.
If that's the case, good God RJ better be the next D-Rose.
The feeling around the program is Dotson is coming back. He's not a first rounder and most scouts are saying he should go back to school. It would take some gymnastics to bring Grimes back.
And that helps with RJ. He's a guy that likes to play with other really good players and win.
FarmerJayhawk said:
The feeling around the program is Dotson is coming back. He's not a first rounder and most scouts are saying he should go back to school. It would take some gymnastics to bring Grimes back.
Well this is great to read. I was seeing a lot of first round stuff floating around. Dotson + RJ + Wilson is lethal.
D dot looked good against weak combine guys(grimes), not 1 3. Gotta work on shot, not gonna get those layups against the big boys. He's much smarter than most too. He will improve!
BeddieKU23 said:
I think the issue is he didn't qualify to transfer and use the grad-transfer route which would have allowed him to go to Memphis. If that's the case I think KU's out as well.
not necessarily - -like they say he still has time to get finished up over the summer - not overly concerned at this point
FarmerJayhawk said:
Memphis isn't getting RJ. Not enough ball to go around with Boogie in the fold.
he is not going to Memphis - -I am just not seeing that anymore
BShark said:
I think it's fairly likely Dotson goes pro at this point. If he comes back I think we could squeeze in RJ and Jalen. Start all three if you have to promise Jalen a starting spot to get him wouldn't be the end of the world.
@Kcmatt7 Well you also have to be welcomed back.
The thing that sticks to me is - - -RJ has stated that he DOESN'T necessarily have to be Point , he doesn't have to have the ball in his hands all the time , more or less could play the 2 spot which I think that is where they have told him anyways - -he stated he just wants to play around other great players, BUT him and Devon could inner change - -or also they COULD move Devon to the 2nd if they thought that's what truly needed to be done to fit RJ. - Let RJ play the point and Devon the 2 or visa versa - it can work.
Now if Devon sticks in the NBA like you have mentioned that he might - -then obviously RJ just slips right in no big deal - - -I just really think with Jalen visiting on the 30th and now RJ'S dad talking about RJ possibly visiting KU the same weekend - him and Jalen at the same time , there just might be something more going on there then what we might think. - I think those two very easily could visit the same weekend and then BOTH commit very soon afterwards. - -To me Jalen making the statement that Lawrence better be ready - there might be a hidden message in there - with him and RJ so tight , Jalen saying RJ is his right hand man - -his guy - I'm just thinking - -not happening for Memphis - could be totally off - -but I don't think so - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Kcmatt7 said:
@BShark Lol.
If DD goes, are we running RJ at PG?
YEP - -Like I just stated RJ has said he DOESN'T have to run point - he can slide in at the 2 - what a awesome take - -basically have 2 point guards on the floor at the same time , with RJ'S ball handling and passing - he said he just wants to play with or be surrounded with other really good players - I just really don't think it's as much a problem as some think.
RJ could and still see plenty of time running the point - I think we land Jalen for sure will be enough to push RJ over the edge for us - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer73 said:
What are you talking about?
Giving you a hard time for asking 214 why he uses all caps.
I would LOVE to have both of these guys! My only concern would be that I hope they check their egos at the door when they come to KU. Nothing wrong with being highly ranked, highly confident, and wanting minutes or to play with your buddy, but this is a team sport AND this is Kansas! Anyone else have that concern?
approxinfinity said:
jayballer73 said:
What are you talking about?
Giving you a hard time for asking 214 why he uses all caps.
Kind of a grammar security guard, no gun, but also engages in some questionable activity while off duty? We kid because we care ..
HighEliteMajor said:
approxinfinity said:
jayballer73 said:
What are you talking about?
Giving you a hard time for asking 214 why he uses all caps.
Kind of a grammar security guard, no gun, but also engages in some questionable activity while off duty? We kid because we care ..
still lost - -understand kind of playing but I'm lost what did say that was bad - -I was curious only to why he is always using all caps all the time. - All caps means they are yelling
@jayballer73 just his way, no big deal, let it go.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Is there enough ball to go around at KU if Dotson comes back?
Dotson is not coming back.
hawkmoon2020 said:
I would LOVE to have both of these guys! My only concern would be that I hope they check their egos at the door when they come to KU. Nothing wrong with being highly ranked, highly confident, and wanting minutes or to play with your buddy, but this is a team sport AND this is Kansas! Anyone else have that concern?
I am only concerned about getting talent at this point.
jayballer73 said:
HighEliteMajor said:
approxinfinity said:
jayballer73 said:
What are you talking about?
Giving you a hard time for asking 214 why he uses all caps.
Kind of a grammar security guard, no gun, but also engages in some questionable activity while off duty? We kid because we care ..
still lost - -understand kind of playing but I'm lost what did say that was bad - -I was curious only to why he is always using all caps all the time. - All caps means they are yelling
Nothing you said was bad or out of line. Just a bit of kidding around. Always appreciate your info and thoughts, which really add a lot here.
*Also, I think that's just his style .. all caps. If he did all lower case now, would that be whispering? I would think so.
And really, in the big business that is college basketball (and it is a business) if I were the coach I would not allow the program to be taken hostage by the NBA draft. If they declare they go, as simple as that.
HighEliteMajor said:
jayballer73 said:
HighEliteMajor said:
approxinfinity said:
jayballer73 said:
What are you talking about?
Giving you a hard time for asking 214 why he uses all caps.
Kind of a grammar security guard, no gun, but also engages in some questionable activity while off duty? We kid because we care ..
still lost - -understand kind of playing but I'm lost what did say that was bad - -I was curious only to why he is always using all caps all the time. - All caps means they are yelling
Nothing you said was bad or out of line. Just a bit of kidding around. Always appreciate your info and thoughts, which really add a lot here.
*Also, I think that's just his style .. all caps. If he did all lower case now, would that be whispering? I would think so.
lmao , ya guess your right whisper - did that mean I'm whispering now lol - -thanks guy - - -appreciated. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Marco said:
And really, in the big business that is college basketball (and it is a business) if I were the coach I would not allow the program to be taken hostage by the NBA draft. If they declare they go, as simple as that.
I can appreciate that sentiment but I think I'd want most of my guys back, even if they declare. At least this way, you hope they get honest feedback and don't leave. Like lets say Dotson comes back. What if he had declared and couldn't come back even after slipping out of the first round? I'd much rather have another year of Dotson. I'd also much rather have Q test the waters and see if someone else wants to take a gamble on him.
Honesty is the best policy here.
Marco said:
And really, in the big business that is college basketball (and it is a business) if I were the coach I would not allow the program to be taken hostage by the NBA draft. If they declare they go, as simple as that.
While your thought is attractive from a purist standpoint, I would guess such an approach might dissuade almost every player with NBA aspirations from coming our way. I think coaches have to put on a false face of support sometimes when guys test the waters under these new rules.
If a guy wants to test, more power to him. Self can’t coach the guys now anyway, so might as well have them go get some structured competition and get feedback on their game from another source.
@FarmerJayhawk and that’s exactly what he wanted to do!
Can you only declare twice? Or is that restriction gone now?
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@FarmerJayhawk and that’s exactly what he wanted to do!
Exactly! And good luck getting people to work for you if you fire them if you have the gall to just go interview somewhere else. I used to write letters for my interns all the time. If they got a better gig before their internship was up I’d tell them to take it or I’d fire them myself for being morons 😂
@HighEliteMajor Kentucky seems to do it just fine.
Nothing new here, but sums things up.
https://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article230623269.html ↗
Wilson’s take on Achiuwa is Precious.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@FarmerJayhawk and that’s exactly what he wanted to do!
Exactly! And good luck getting people to work for you if you fire them if you have the gall to just go interview somewhere else. I used to write letters for my interns all the time. If they got a better gig before their internship was up I’d tell them to take it or I’d fire them myself for being morons 😂
The difference, of course, being that your interns went to those other gigs and you knew that they would, and they were immediately if not sooner replaced. Whereas with the new rules that have been put in place programs can be held hostage by players who are not ready but are trying to interview for positions that they may or may not get. Meanwhile, how many scholarships do we have to fill? And can we? There is the flaw........
@HighEliteMajor not many. I think Cal replaces them, basically saying, "sorry, it didn't work out for you. Your scholarship has been taken."
I sort of expect Jalen and RJ to just stay in Lawrence.
Marco said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@FarmerJayhawk and that’s exactly what he wanted to do!
Exactly! And good luck getting people to work for you if you fire them if you have the gall to just go interview somewhere else. I used to write letters for my interns all the time. If they got a better gig before their internship was up I’d tell them to take it or I’d fire them myself for being morons 😂
The difference, of course, being that your interns went to those other gigs and you knew that they would, and they were immediately if not sooner replaced. Whereas with the new rules that have been put in place programs can be held hostage by players who are not ready but are trying to interview for positions that they may or may not get. Meanwhile, how many scholarships do we have to fill? And can we? There is the flaw........
Not always. Depending on the time of year it could be a month or 6 weeks before someone could step in. Self, like I did, encourages these guys to test the waters. How can he encourage them to test and not know if they actually did? That makes no sense. KU isn't being held hostage by anyone. Self has a really good idea who's staying and who's coming back. He wouldn't even take Grimes back if he knew it would chase away Hampton and/or Wilson. I doubt we fill them all. By my count, we have 3 left to give assuming we get Silvio and Dotson back. Adding Hampton and Wilson would mean we use 12.
FR: McBride, Braun, Enaruna, (Hampton, Wilson)
SO: Dotson, Agbaji, McCormack
JR: DeSousa, Garrett
SR: Lightfoot, Udoka
The fact that RJ wants to accompany Jalen on his visit tells me all I need to know about RJ's intentions.
RJ has already visited KU multiple times. To me, the most plausible explanation for him making this visit with Jalen is because he wants to recruit him to join him at KU. RJ is sold on KU and he wants to try to sell it to Jalen as well.
@Wifflehead Or vise versa. Either way it’s a good “sign” pun intended
Wifflehead said:
The fact that RJ wants to accompany Jalen on his visit tells me all I need to know about RJ's intentions.
RJ has already visited KU multiple times. To me, the most plausible explanation for him making this visit with Jalen is because he wants to recruit him to join him at KU. RJ is sold on KU and he wants to try to sell it to Jalen as well.
I believe RJ is fully sold on KU, unlike his dad.
bcjayhawk said:
@BShark What does RJ's Dad have against KU?
Idk but among other things he did a radio interview awhile back where he was drooling all over Calipari and knocking KU/Self and was talking about RJ cutting KU (obvs this didn't happen). This was shortly after the FBI crap when KU was front and center.
Thankfully for us RJ has a strong personality.
“We don’t need to visit to Kansas or Memphis,” Rod Hampton told Daniels. “But the next couple of days he’s going to decide where Texas Tech stands. If he’s serious about that then we’ll go visit.”
http://m.kusports.com/weblogs/tale-tait/2019/may/20/five-star-target-rj-hampton-eyeing-retur/ ↗
Yeah I saw that and it sure reads like RJ himself doesn't really care about Tech...
Courtesy to Under Armour.
Bryan Moss, publisher of TigerSportsReport.com picked KU for RJ today on rivals.
@FarmerJayhawk Thank you,,,, and that is what I am saying. He is Not going to take Grimes back.
Marco said:
@FarmerJayhawk Thank you,,,, and that is what I am saying. He is Not going to take Grimes back.
Unless Mr. Hampton gets a check he can’t pass up. Because like you said, we need bodies.
Notice the shorts??
Very nice!!!! I can’t help but comment that one play looked better than anything Grimes did all year.
BShark said:
Notice the shorts??
MY poor eyes I couldn't tell - -I think you are saying they are KU shorts?
jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
Notice the shorts??
MY poor eyes I couldn't tell - -I think you are saying they are KU shorts?
They are.
@BShark Sweeeeeet. - -Man I hope he decides to come with Jalen on his visit - -recruit Jalen for us , - the Christmas Scenario would be - -Him and Jalen just both say - -WERE COMING before they ever leave campus that weekend - -Like Jalen said - if that happens like he said -- Lawrence better be ready - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Some new quotes from Rod Hampton today per Adam Zagoria.
"We will know a lot more after next week" " Need to see who stays in NBA"
His dad might be a pain in the rear!
@FarmerJayhawk does he work?
Woodrow said:
A lot more in here
Well from 1st glance at the article - - looks to me like it's either - - KU or MEMPHIS - -don't really think Tech has anything to go on - -and oversea's in the distance
Seems Rod is giving an interview every other day lately...
Just reading between his brain cells, Memphis doesn't sound real promising. But he does know wiseman really well!🕵🏽♂️
Crimsonorblue22 said:
His dad might be a pain in the rear!
There is no might about it.
Sounds like KU or Memphis to me but who knows. IMO they are waiting to make sure Grimes is not coming back. Hopefully it is over by next weekend.
Woodrow said:
Sounds like KU or Memphis to me but who knows. IMO they are waiting to make sure Grimes is not coming back. Hopefully it is over by next weekend.
This is exactly how I see it as well. Self can make it clear Grimes is gone but until something is official you never know. Not that Self would lie about it but coaches do lie and I don't play Rod for having RJ wait toooo much.
for some reason here lately, just sure seems to me , I get this feel that RJ'S daddy really isn't that all hyped up on RJ coming to KU - - just some of his comments - -might be insane - -just a feeling I get - -I think RJ will win out, - -Daddy was talking about that over sea's option though - saying you have to consider it. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Rod “Ball” Hampton is already becoming tiresome.
BShark said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
His dad might be a pain in the rear!
There is no might about it.
He is starting to remind me alot of freaking LaVar Ball. By the way, for real guys, this recruiting season has left a bad taste in my mouth. Feel like someone has offered me a penis, and I'm not gay. I'll be back when this distasteful thing is over.
Marco said:
BShark said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
His dad might be a pain in the rear!
There is no might about it.
Feel like someone has offered me a penis, and I'm not gay.
Lol. I don't know why, but this tickled me in just the right spot.
It was a decent analogy. Vulgar, for sure. But hey it's the off season :)
dylans said:
Rod “Ball” Hampton is already becoming tiresome.
Boy is he ever , I'm just probably making to much out of things but - - man just seems when ever there is the slightest opening it's like he would be preferring anywhere but Kansas- - -thing is it is not his decision. Yet he holds a lot of weight.
In the end I still think we win out. - -I think it for sure is between Memphis and KU , when it all is said and done - -with that being said he DID say that Memphis was crowded , and on top of that he said about Tech that Beard was a great Coach - -BUT so was Penny and then he said so is Bill. - just think Tech is not a factor.
Really liked how he talked about Doke & Devon and such - -we will see
De Sousa is eligible to play in upcoming season! And deservedly so!
@rjhampton14 6m
the time has come wacth @getupespn Tuesday may 28th
I have an announcement to make
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
@rjhampton14 6m
the time has come wacth @getupespn Tuesday may 28th
I have an announcement to make
This is massive. Rock Chalk.
@FarmerJayhawk think it’s KU??
@FarmerJayhawk he commits then comes with Jalen Thursday for the visit!
Too many coincidences line up here. Silvio getting reinstated, Wilson visiting, and summer school starting the next week. And you don’t go on ESPN to sign a deal with Australia. ESPN would tell you to go fly a kite
Wow what a turn of events. Rock Chalk Yall
FarmerJayhawk said:
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
@rjhampton14 6m
the time has come wacth @getupespn Tuesday may 28th
I have an announcement to makeThis is massive. Rock Chalk.
Soooooo , let me hear you Farmer - - what's your pick
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
JAYHAWKFAN214 said:
@rjhampton14 6m
the time has come wacth @getupespn Tuesday may 28th
I have an announcement to makeThis is massive. Rock Chalk.
Soooooo , let me hear you Farmer - - what's your pick
As of right this second, Rock Chalk Jayhawk
FarmerJayhawk said:
Too many coincidences line up here. Silvio getting reinstated, Wilson visiting, and summer school starting the next week. And you don’t go on ESPN to sign a deal with Australia. ESPN would tell you to go fly a kite
So is he announcing on ESPN ?
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Too many coincidences line up here. Silvio getting reinstated, Wilson visiting, and summer school starting the next week. And you don’t go on ESPN to sign a deal with Australia. ESPN would tell you to go fly a kite
So is he announcing on ESPN ?
On their morning show!
FWIW. The staff thinks they got him.
@FarmerJayhawk What are the odds it's Tech or Memphis?
FarmerJayhawk said:
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Too many coincidences line up here. Silvio getting reinstated, Wilson visiting, and summer school starting the next week. And you don’t go on ESPN to sign a deal with Australia. ESPN would tell you to go fly a kite
So is he announcing on ESPN ?
On their morning show!
ok guy - -sorry to keep pestering you about it - but ONE more question - -do you happen to know what time that is? - -and that would be right on the ESPN Challenge then right? - -just have to watch - hope he doesn't disapoint
7-9 am
LOL , I'm rollin here - -Kentucky fans are about to die - - Between - Silvio getting cleared - -and Now RJ announcing - they about ready to Doo their britches lmao
Not that preseason ranking matters at all, but if Kansas gets Hampton and Wilson I don't see how they aren't preseason 1. This is assuming Dotson is back too.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
@FarmerJayhawk What are the odds it's Tech or Memphis?
Tech: 100000000:1. Memphis: the wild card. Maybe like 50:1?
@FarmerJayhawk Thanks. Keeping my fingers crossed.
@FarmerJayhawk I’m putting $5 on TT at those odds (and splitting with RJ).
I don't believe anything until we get a signature. Burned to often. I did believe we'd get Silvio back, 🙏
Crimsonorblue22 said:
7-9 am
Thank you very much greatly appreciated. - like was mentioned earlier too many things lining up - -Silvio - -get's cleared - -later the same day RJ announces the date & on ESPN - like has been said he not going on ESPN to announce over sea's. - -Remember he WAS going to wait to see who stayed - and who came back after the 29th - -Plus he announcing on the 28th - -Jalen visiting on the 29th - -nice recruiting tool. -- ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
It'll be Kansas.
@FarmerJayhawk fwiw RJ retweeted this: 🐦 View Tweet
Says he is deciding between KU/Memphis/Tech.
BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk fwiw RJ retweeted this: 🐦 View Tweet
Says he is deciding between KU/Memphis/Tech.
You mean KU/KU/KU 😎
@FarmerJayhawk I do! Mainly bringing it up since overseas appears to be not in play anymore.
BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk I do! Mainly bringing it up since overseas appears to be not in play anymore.
I would agree with that. ESPN would’ve told them to pound sand otherwise.
The basketball gods are finally smiling down upon us.... Rock chalk!
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk I do! Mainly bringing it up since overseas appears to be not in play anymore.
I would agree with that. ESPN would’ve told them to pound sand otherwise.
I agree, doesn't seem that he would announce on ESPN if going overseas.
Not being too skeptical here, but ESPN broadcasting and announcement to KU? My first thought was that this has the earmarks of a Memphis announcement, and ESPN slobbering all over Hardaway and his #1 recruiting class. The next UK b.s. We've had so much negativity, it's hard to turn to positivity. I'm trying.
HighEliteMajor said:
Not being too skeptical here, but ESPN broadcasting and announcement to KU? My first thought was that this has the earmarks of a Memphis announcement, and ESPN slobbering all over Hardaway and his #1 recruiting class. The next UK b.s. We've had so much negativity, it's hard to turn to positivity. I'm trying.
Skepticism is warranted. We’ve been snakebit by these things a lot. The last kid we got on an ESPN announcement was Billy. Whoops.
@FarmerJayhawk Seems like a lot of KU commitments lately announce on social media or just announce something at their school. Seems like Self/KU don't care how they do it, whereas some of the other bigger schools might to drive up hype?
Still feel great about Hampton though.
BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk Seems like a lot of KU commitments lately announce on social media or just announce something at their school. Seems like Self/KU don't care how they do it, whereas some of the other bigger schools might to drive up hype?
Still feel great about Hampton though.
Agreed. Nike likes their kids to announce on ESPN. Everyone else is like ¯_(ツ)_/¯
@HighEliteMajor I was thinking similarly. It's more of a story if he goes to Memphis and gives Penny a #1 recruiting class and a team with a really strong chance to win a national title. Or if he surprises everyone and picks Michigan because of Juwan Howard, and then they can write stories about rekindling the old Fab 5 and how Howard is going to create a new Fab 5 or something. A Kansas pick is kind of boring.
@KirkIsMyHinrich lol stop
Memphis will look good in the NIT
@BeddieKU23 well, they didn't do THAT good last year
I suspect Memphis will be just fine and I'm pretty confident with that roster they'll be at least a 3 seed.
So, if someone knows, what PG is standing in RJ's way at Memphis? Dotson returning wouldn't be an issue? Just being pessimistic right now.
FarmerJayhawk said:
HighEliteMajor said:
Not being too skeptical here, but ESPN broadcasting and announcement to KU? My first thought was that this has the earmarks of a Memphis announcement, and ESPN slobbering all over Hardaway and his #1 recruiting class. The next UK b.s. We've had so much negativity, it's hard to turn to positivity. I'm trying.
Skepticism is warranted. We’ve been snakebit by these things a lot. The last kid we got on an ESPN announcement was Billy. Whoops.
Well his commitment video was pretty epic, even if his time at Kansas wasn't...
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HighEliteMajor said:
So, if someone knows, what PG is standing in RJ's way at Memphis? Dotson returning wouldn't be an issue? Just being pessimistic right now.
Boogie Ellis- 5 star that decommitted from Duke. Their 3rd leading scorer from last year Tyler Harris is there too
Brooks over at the Memphis 247 site is saying they’re out on RJ. Just in case there was any consternation leftover. 😎😎
FarmerJayhawk said:
Brooks over at the Memphis 247 site is saying they’re out on RJ. Just in case there was any consternation leftover. 😎😎
Two pairs of shades, huh? Hampton and Wilson.....
FarmerJayhawk said:
Brooks over at the Memphis 247 site is saying they’re out on RJ. Just in case there was any consternation leftover. 😎😎
Seems okay. I have VIP but can't read it for some reason... I guess because it's on their forum and not an article.
Self likes two PG types on the floor together of course. Could be playing fast. Doke and SDS can get up and down the court.
Marco said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Brooks over at the Memphis 247 site is saying they’re out on RJ. Just in case there was any consternation leftover. 😎😎
Two pairs if shades, huh? Hampton and Wilson.....
Better than even money I’d say.
Tech just took another player. I’m 99% sure they’re at 13 now b
FarmerJayhawk said:
Tech just took another player. I’m 99% sure they’re at 13 now b
Might as well fill up since rj is going to KU. Brooks made a bunch more posts btw, anything interesting? Annoyed I can read articles but not forums there.
@FarmerJayhawk The other guy they got seems like a pretty decent player. A 6'9'' forward who averaged 11.8 pts and 5.5 boards as a freshman and shot 39% from 3. I think he has to sit a year, though.
@BShark not really. Just Memphis may add one more, might not. They’re not counting on Rayjon. KU dodged a bullet there.
@KirkIsMyHinrich sit one, play 3 guy who’s going to be a royal pain in the ass as long as Beard is there.
You know, we have seen , we have read , and we have heard - off many of different conversation , multiple anlysts predicting - -words amongst ourselves from various places - talking about how good it was/is looking -- How the CB is really favoring us -- Others that were in the race for RJ commenting/surrendering /conceding - RJ to the Crimson and Blue - -that's awesome - -Yet after the way this year has gone with so many peaks and valleys - -I just won't feel at ease/confident UNTIL I hear RJ utter those words. - -to many let downs this year - - I just can't feel at ease - - -I could much easier see Rj Tuesday getting on ESPN - -thanking everyone and then saying with that being said - I'm proud to announce that I will be playing at the University of Memphis - - I could just see that - - OH HELL NO
@jayballer73 the only competition for KU is overseas. And I think it’s Kansas.
So, what - boring Memorial Day weekend, everything's underwater - do you guys think? Is Dotson coming back? Man, was thinking back on our (my) misses this year on recruiting (Tucker was a great miss), usually have a good feel. I'll say this, though, (mark it down fellas!) if Self reels in Hampton and Wilson on top of Enaruna, McBride and Braun I will never doubt him again. The trial and Silvio's suspension damn near tanked us.
FarmerJayhawk said:
@jayballer73 the only competition for KU is overseas. And I think it’s Kansas.
oh don't get me wrong buddy - -I always can rely on you for having/knowing pretty solid - -it's just that little bit of hesitance lol - - ROCK CHALK BUDDY
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
@jayballer73 the only competition for KU is overseas. And I think it’s Kansas.
oh don't get me wrong buddy - -I always can rely on you for having/knowing pretty solid - -it's just that little bit of hesitance lol - - ROCK CHALK BUDDY
Oh definitely. It’s because I’ve never heard anyone say it’s done to Kansas.
Marco said:
So, what - boring Memorial Day weekend, everything's underwater - do you guys think? Is Dotson coming back? Man, was thinking back on our (my) misses this year on recruiting (Tucker was a great miss), usually have a good feel. I'll say this, though, (mark it down fellas!) if Self reels in Hampton and Wilson on top of Enaruna, McBride and Braun I will never doubt him again. The trial and Silvio's suspension damn near tanked us.
I feel pretty confident that Devon is coming back buddy. - -No w do I have any of that inside source stuff? - -no I don't. - -just what my logic - -instinct is telling me - - my gut. - -Devon was quite clear in or his dad and him said - -they were really testing the NBA waters for informational purposes - to get feed back to see what he needed to work on - -what his short comings were so he could get them fixed. or improved
It's been pretty well thought of by most that he will be back - a lot of NBA personal saying he needs to come back - -I think he will run with that. - -Even though he had a solid combine , not really strong enough to improve his status as much as he needs - -you want to get that 1 st round - so you can get that guaranteed money -- most are thinking he right now is probably a middle to lower 2nd round 45 or lower - he comes back - puts in the work , has a really good year - -then all bets are off. - I think we are in really good shape for this year and his return. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
FarmerJayhawk said:
jayballer73 said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
@jayballer73 the only competition for KU is overseas. And I think it’s Kansas.
oh don't get me wrong buddy - -I always can rely on you for having/knowing pretty solid - -it's just that little bit of hesitance lol - - ROCK CHALK BUDDY
Oh definitely. It’s because I’ve never heard anyone say it’s done to Kansas.
YA I hear ya , and I know you have heard - -you can say Never say Never. - -stranger things have happened. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
Nothing is for sure. Still time for bags of cash to suddenly appear.
HighEliteMajor said:
Nothing is for sure. Still time for bags of cash to suddenly appear.
Yup. If it’s overseas you know UA backed up the Brinks truck.
FarmerJayhawk said:
@jayballer73 the only competition for KU is overseas. And I think it’s Kansas.
It's already been pointed out, but it would be weird for RJ to go on ESPN to announce that he's playing overseas.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
@jayballer73 the only competition for KU is overseas. And I think it’s Kansas.
It's already been pointed out, but it would be weird for RJ to go on ESPN to announce that he's playing overseas.
Yeah this is where my cognitive dissonance is kicking in. At bare minimum ESPN knows who the legit options are so their analysts can do some prep ahead of time.
On the bright side, if things go sideways with R.J., timing is such that we could get Grimes back.
FarmerJayhawk said:
On the bright side, if things go sideways with R.J., timing is such that we could get Grimes back.
I think we will get rj
Something to keep in mind. RJ’s dad can unilaterally make the decision here. The way the rules work, if a guardian agrees to a deal with a pro team, it’s the exact same as the player agreeing. If RJ announces he’s going pro on Tuesday, there’s a good chance it wasn’t his call.
@FarmerJayhawk Great point on the control parents have over minors .. but in this case, RJ is an adult. He’s 18. So he’s the boss to the extent he insists on making his own decisions.
HighEliteMajor said:
@FarmerJayhawk Great point on the control parents have over minors .. but in this case, RJ is an adult. He’s 18. So he’s the boss to the extent he insists on making his own decisions.
Unfortunately that’s not how the NCAA operates. Rod Hampton can call up the pro Australian league, agree to a deal, and RJ’s amateurism is over according to NCAA rules. It’s a garbage rule, but that’s what they did after Cam Newton’s ordeal (who also was over 18).
Agent daddy ruins eligibility too.
FarmerJayhawk said:
Something to keep in mind. RJ’s dad can unilaterally make the decision here. The way the rules work, if a guardian agrees to a deal with a pro team, it’s the exact same as the player agreeing. If RJ announces he’s going pro on Tuesday, there’s a good chance it wasn’t his call.
RJ is legally an adult, so unless he has a signed document giving his dad power of attorney in matters such as these, Rod cannot legally make a decision on behalf of RJ.
@FarmerJayhawk My view on this -
The key here is the same as it was in the Cam Newton deal. Does RJ have a verbal or written contract for his dad to act on his behalf? The fact that there was (allegedly) no verbal or written contract to act on Cam's behalf, the NCAA set aside the suspension.
For example, if RJ's mom is out there trying to "sell" RJ's services, it's irrelevant unless his mom has RJ's authority (for this discussion, RJ is an adult).
In this situation, the only way he goes awry of NCAA rules is if there is a written contact with the pro team (of which RJ would need to sign, or his dad could sign if there was POA as @Texas-Hawk-10 mentioned), if RJ acknowledged that he had an oral agreement of agency with his dad (or a logic would dictate when defending your eligibilty, he didn't deny it), or if he actually participated in the pro league.
So under your scenario, if RJ's dad did "call up the pro Australian league (and) agree to a deal", RJ's amateurism is not over unless one of the examples above is met.
There are principles under the law of "actual authority" and "apparent authority." Actual authority is where the consent to the agency relationship is given, oral or written. The parent acting for the child, in this situation where the child is an adult, would be one of "apparent authority" if there is no actual authority, which we presuming -- the adult has done so in the past (acted on the child's behalf), others can reasonably rely on it, there is no denial of authority by the child, etc.
@Texas-Hawk-10 You can give oral authority for one to act on your behalf. The difference in most every situation is proof. The reason you have a written document is proof. So if RJ made it known, or didn't deny, his dad acting on his behalf, that would do it. One example under the law where a written agreement is required by the law is the transfer of real property.
11 hours ago, @RJHampton14 tweeted “Biggest decision of my life.” Still undecided?
@Gorilla72 I don't think so.
@Texas-Hawk-10 for amateurism purposes the law is irrelevant.
@HighEliteMajor the NCAA does not require RJ’s consent or knowledge, " ... an agent is any individual who, directly or indirectly, represents or attempts to represent an individual for the purpose of marketing his or her athletics ability or reputation for financial gain or Seeks to obtain any type of financial gain or benefit from securing a prospective student-athlete's enrollment at an educational institution or from a student-athlete's potential earnings as a professional athlete.”
7:30 AM CST announcement time.
BShark said:
7:30 AM CST announcement time.
Let’s gooooooo
BShark said:
7:30 AM CST announcement time.
He just announced on his Twitter account that hes announcing at 8:30am
@JAYHAWKFAN214 8:30AM EST, which is 7:30AM CST.
@FarmerJayhawk You have done what many do when looking at material such as this. You have cited a section that is not intended to be used for eligibility, but a definitional section. It is a section to be used to define the an agent for NCAA purposes. This has nothing directly to do with whether the player would be ineligible. That is, whether the defined "agent" is acting on his behalf.
If you go further under that same section, it defines "family members." too -- 12.02.4 Family Member.A family member is an individual with any of the following relationships to the prospective student-athlete: spouse, parent or legal guardian, child, sibling, grandparent, domestic partner or any individual whose close association with the prospective student-athlete is the practical equivalent of a family relationship.
Like the agent, it’s just a definition.
But the definition of an agent goes to my point -- it states that an agent is any individual who, directly or indirectly, represents .. an individual .." So in this scenario, the only way on can do that is with authority. You can't represent someone without some type of authority to do so.
I suspect you are extrapolating the "attempts to represent" as opposed to "represents" as applying to his dad, meaning if his dad attempts to represent him, then he's an agent. Again, your citation for this purpose is not applicable.
If this is what you are doing, it is silly to suggest that RJ's consent or knowledge isn't need. Absurdity is sometimes demonstrated by absurdity. With that in mind, I could make RJ ineligible by trying to market and sell his services to the highest bidder. That would be without his authority. That is obviously not going to make him ineligible.
Nervous
And presumably ESPN has some info about his decision - maybe that he's announcing for a university rather than overseas, even if they don't know which university.
@KirkIsMyHinrich Right .. but I was also thinking that the substance of what he announces may not be important. It’s that more people watch than normal.
But going to Australia is bigger news and a bigger discussion. Going to KU probably isn’t beyond a blip that day.
Going to Australia let’s the talking heads talk more.
@HighEliteMajor Sure, it gives them something to talk about for that day, but not a lot to talk about after that. ESPN doesn't show highlights of pro ball in Australia. They aren't going to talk about how RJ is doing in Australia. It seems odd to go on a network and announce that you're going somewhere where that network will ignore you.
It seems like RJ and his Dad may not agree on the best place for RJ.
Oh boy. That would be a huge blow.
Woodrow said:
Oh boy. That would be a huge blow.
Absolutely. We definitely can't blame the coaching staff on it though.
It makes it concerning to me that Daddy wants to get so involved.
I thought someone on here said that Self was in Australia Friday. The same day as SDSs verdict came in and the same day RJ tweeted his commitment date. Maybe UA and Addidas we’re working something out. Or I’m over thinking as usual
Self was in fact down in Australia.
HighEliteMajor said:
@FarmerJayhawk You have done what many do when looking at material such as this. You have cited a section that is not intended to be used for eligibility, but a definitional section. It is a section to be used to define the an agent for NCAA purposes. This has nothing directly to do with whether the player would be ineligible. That is, whether the defined "agent" is acting on his behalf.
If you go further under that same section, it defines "family members." too -- 12.02.4 Family Member.A family member is an individual with any of the following relationships to the prospective student-athlete: spouse, parent or legal guardian, child, sibling, grandparent, domestic partner or any individual whose close association with the prospective student-athlete is the practical equivalent of a family relationship.
Like the agent, it’s just a definition.
But the definition of an agent goes to my point -- it states that an agent is any individual who, directly or indirectly, represents .. an individual .." So in this scenario, the only way on can do that is with authority. You can't represent someone without some type of authority to do so.
I suspect you are extrapolating the "attempts to represent" as opposed to "represents" as applying to his dad, meaning if his dad attempts to represent him, then he's an agent. Again, your citation for this purpose is not applicable.
If this is what you are doing, it is silly to suggest that RJ's consent or knowledge isn't need. Absurdity is sometimes demonstrated by absurdity. With that in mind, I could make RJ ineligible by trying to market and sell his services to the highest bidder. That would be without his authority. That is obviously not going to make him ineligible.
And in RJ's case (as was in the case with Cecil Newton) the parent has some authority to act on behalf of the kid with or without his permission or knowledge. We literally just went through this with Silvio. Fenny acted on behalf of Silvio in a way he did not consent to according to both KU and the NCAA. Disagree if you want there, but those are the facts as agreed to. Rod Hampton has the same relationship with RJ. He can call up the NBL and agree to a contract and void RJ's eligibility since he's the parent representing RJ, with our without his consent. Your argument is a straw man.
There has to be an agreement in place to void amateurism. If you, Mr. HEM, were to call up the NBL and ask for money for RJ Hampton they'd be like wtf and hang up. RJ's amateurism would not be affected. If Rod Hampton did that and fielded offers, RJ's amateurism would also not be affected. But if Rod and the NBL enter into negotiations and agree to a deal, then amateurism would be affected, with or without RJ's permission or knowledge. That's the entire point of the NCAA closing the Cam Newton loophole. Fielding offers != agreeing to a deal. The former is not a violation, the latter is.
The NCAA found that in a few cases, parents or handlers had either accepted or agreed to accept impermissible benefits and couldn't do anything about it because the rule said the player had to have knowledge and these third parties did not meet the definition of an agent. Since they closed the loophole, knowledge is not required and parents are now considered agents if they agree to accept benefits. Anytime a representative of the player accepts or agrees to accept money, it affects amateurism.
Of note. Everyone's clammed up at this point. The staff hasn't been told anything.
SMOKE SZN
@FarmerJayhawk This is too intense lol, I gotta close twitter and the phog and be productive.
BShark said:
SMOKE SZN
I really hate the 24 hours leading up to an announcement. Worst day I ever had covering KU was DeAndre Ayton Day. Once we heard he was announcing that afternoon we wrote up stories about him committing to KU and how he would fit with the roster. I slapped together a piece on him committing to the Wildcats since the other 2 finalists were Zona and UK just as a contingency since everyone we checked with thought KU until about an hour before the announcement when Matt told us Ayton had an unofficial to Zona the weekend before and bad things might have happened.
If I had to pick now, it would be Australia.
Is his inverted twitter picture a subtle reference to Australia?
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Is his inverted twitter picture a subtle reference to Australia?
Nah. Kids these days just like to mess with people. I just think old pops is rowing that boat south.
FarmerJayhawk said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Is his inverted twitter picture a subtle reference to Australia?
Nah. Kids these days just like to mess with people. I just think old pops is rowing that boat south.
Guy on the phog said he did that the day his old HS hoops coach was re-assigned from Little Elm.
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Is his inverted twitter picture a subtle reference to Australia?
Nah. Kids these days just like to mess with people. I just think old pops is rowing that boat south.
Guy on the phog said he did that the day his old HS hoops coach was re-assigned from Little Elm.
THAT HE DID
FarmerJayhawk said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Is his inverted twitter picture a subtle reference to Australia?
Nah. Kids these days just like to mess with people. I just think old pops is rowing that boat south.
It seems like it. I hope I'm wrong, but it'd be sad if Dad wanting money right now superseded his son getting to pick where he wanted to play basketball. Especially when his son is probably going to get paid a lot of money in a year anyway.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Is his inverted twitter picture a subtle reference to Australia?
Nah. Kids these days just like to mess with people. I just think old pops is rowing that boat south.
It seems like it. I hope I'm wrong, but it'd be sad if Dad wanting money right now superseded his son getting to pick where he wanted to play basketball. Especially when his son is probably going to get paid a lot of money in a year anyway.
Had someone tell me today they think he'll commit to KU tomorrow then bolt when the Aussie team sweetens the offer. So even if he does announce for KU tomorrow I'll be nervous until he actually starts playing.
@FarmerJayhawk Tait backing this up on twitter now 🐦 View Tweet
BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk Tait backing this up on twitter now 🐦 View Tweet
I know who is source is so that makes a lot of sense.
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk Tait backing this up on twitter now 🐦 View Tweet
I know who is source is so that makes a lot of sense.
Matt is my assumption. Edit: You know who I mean I assume, the other Matt.
Another older tweet on it: 🐦 View Tweet
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
@FarmerJayhawk Tait backing this up on twitter now 🐦 View Tweet
I know who is source is so that makes a lot of sense.
Matt is my assumption.
Another older tweet on it: 🐦 View Tweet
What a shitshow.
FarmerJayhawk said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Is his inverted twitter picture a subtle reference to Australia?
Nah. Kids these days just like to mess with people. I just think old pops is rowing that boat south.
It seems like it. I hope I'm wrong, but it'd be sad if Dad wanting money right now superseded his son getting to pick where he wanted to play basketball. Especially when his son is probably going to get paid a lot of money in a year anyway.
Had someone tell me today they think he'll commit to KU tomorrow then bolt when the Aussie team sweetens the offer. So even if he does announce for KU tomorrow I'll be nervous until he actually starts playing.
So he's probably just using the KU announcement tomorrow to get Australia to raise their offer then. And also probably why his 3 schools are Nike, Adidas, and UA - to see which will give him the most money. I'm depressed.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Is his inverted twitter picture a subtle reference to Australia?
Nah. Kids these days just like to mess with people. I just think old pops is rowing that boat south.
It seems like it. I hope I'm wrong, but it'd be sad if Dad wanting money right now superseded his son getting to pick where he wanted to play basketball. Especially when his son is probably going to get paid a lot of money in a year anyway.
Had someone tell me today they think he'll commit to KU tomorrow then bolt when the Aussie team sweetens the offer. So even if he does announce for KU tomorrow I'll be nervous until he actually starts playing.
So he's probably just using the KU announcement tomorrow to get Australia to raise their offer then. And also probably why his 3 schools are Nike, Adidas, and UA - to see which will give him the most money. I'm depressed.
It's a possibility. I'm skeptical that's what they'll do but you never know I guess.
Aaaaand it's gaining national traction
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
@JAYHAWKFAN214 8:30AM EST, which is 7:30AM CST.
Except we're in daylight savings, so it must be 7:30am CDT.
Time over space is confusing.
I'm not allowed to discuss a university student's grades with a parent, without the student's written permission. Doesn't matter who is paying the bills. I'm pretty happy about that.
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
Aaaaand it's gaining national traction
😔😔😔
Alternatively...
I think what you mentioned earlier...announcing KU tomorrow and then overseas still being an option could be very real.
Welp. Just when we thought we had something.
tundrahok said:
I'm not allowed to discuss a university student's grades with a parent, without the student's written permission. Doesn't matter who is paying the bills. I'm pretty happy about that.
Easy excuse to tell parents to buzz off if need be lol
Zags hedging as well: 🐦 View Tweet
This has waaaaay more traction than I would like to see.
@Woodrow 100% need Dotson back now and next year will be fine.
This recruitment has never felt right. His final schools all seemed odd based on his want to play PG.
I bet he announces Memphis and goes overseas.
And then most of you need to probably be okay with the idea Grimes could legitimately be back.
@tundrahok Sure. The point is it's at 7:30.
Just taking everything into account, how he loves KU and the coaching staff, how they have been on him from day one, how he is announcing on Get Up tomorrow morning and with his homeboy Jalen being on campus Thursday (probably accompanied by RJ) I think, like I said, that we are going to land both RJ and Wilson, but, man!, daddy is starting to make me real nervous,,, in a LaVar Ball kind of way. Oh well, guess we'd only have to put up with him for one year.
BShark said:
@Kcmatt7 I think Self would even be interested at this point but Grimes' circle? I very much doubt it.
Last info I have is pre-draft process, but they didn’t want any part of college. Let’s hope for a Malik Newman style change of heart sans transfer. I think Grimes could have a huge sophomore year if he gets his head on straight.
@FarmerJayhawk as a pt?
@Crimsonorblue22 I expect Dotson back.
@FarmerJayhawk but, if grimes wants to come back and play pt.....
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@FarmerJayhawk but, if grimes wants to come back and play pt.....
I mean I’d take him over McBride
FarmerJayhawk said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@FarmerJayhawk but, if grimes wants to come back and play pt.....
I mean I’d take him over McBride
WE HAVE ESTABLISHED THAT DOTSON WILL BE THE PG PLEASE AND THANK YOU
@FarmerJayhawk I'd have to see McBride first!👀
BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@FarmerJayhawk but, if grimes wants to come back and play pt.....
I mean I’d take him over McBride
WE HAVE ESTABLISHED THAT DOTSON WILL BE THE PG PLEASE AND THANK YOU
THE BLOOD ISNT DRY OKAY
FarmerJayhawk said:
Crimsonorblue22 said:
@FarmerJayhawk but, if grimes wants to come back and play pt.....
I mean I’d take him over McBride
I’m twitter dumb. Is prison Mitch making fun of grimes and saying he wants to play point guard too?
Imitating grimes skills
Dont want either. I dont want to hear another word about Hampton if he goes overseas after this
@BeddieKU23 Lavar errr Rod Hampton said he was "praying Devon Dotson stays in (the draft)". I'm pretty off it.
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Lavar errr Rod Hampton said he was "praying Devon Dotson stays in (the draft)". I'm pretty off it.
RJ and Rod aren’t seeing eye to eye on this. RJ wants to play with Dotson at Kansas. Rod wants the opposite in about every way.
Oh well KU will survive without.
@FarmerJayhawk Rod is a piece of work.
BeddieKU23 said:
Oh well KU will survive without.
If the roster ends up being
Dot
Garrett
Ochai
Silvio
Doke
Bench
Wilson
Dave
McBride
Enaruna
Braun
Lightfoot
Random body
We are in for some butt clinching shooting nights but that's a real good team that wins the league and is a high seed.
I just...I can't... wake me up in 11 hours.
IF we land Hampton, he’d better unpack his bags and be a helluva OAD to atone for this never-ending, stupid drama.
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Lavar errr Rod Hampton said he was "praying Devon Dotson stays in (the draft)". I'm pretty off it.
RJ and Rod aren’t seeing eye to eye on this. RJ wants to play with Dotson at Kansas. Rod wants the opposite in about every way.
So the way I would see this , just like when I was that age many many many moons ago.
RJ even at the age of 18 is basically for all practical purposes is looked at as an Adult. - -at the age of 18 I was out of mommy and daddy's house - -I was independent - -I was starting the adventure of my own life.
Now RJ's future is pretty well written - he will be and NBA players making boo-koo money So here is what I just don't get. - Yes I was taught to respect my Parents - - -Yes I valued their opinions. - -BUT at the end of the day - - this is or should be RJ'S -decision - it's HIS career - -his future that we are talking about here. - - there fore RJ should be the one to say -- I'm going to KU to play - - OR I'm going over sea's - - NOT DADDY.- I if I were RJ I would be trying to in the nicest respectable way be trying to tell DAD look I value & Respect your opinion BUT this is MY future - -this is MY job
The Hamptons won't have to worry - RJ comes to KU he has a full ride the year he is here , and is there anyone that doesn't think he won't help take care of his family when he is done with his one year in College - -you can bet your life - -they need financial help RJ makin that green - -he will help - -the Hampton family gonna be well taken care of by their son.
With this being about RJ'S Furure - - it should be RJ'S and only RJ'S final decision and DADDY should take two steps back and just support RJ'S decision - -he is now an adult - let RJ lead his life how RJ wants to lead HIS life. - -
Like I've always told my kids - -it's your decision, -- right , wrong , whatever - -it's your decision. - and you'll learn - one way or the other you will learn - if they ask me what I think - I'll give my opinion - end the end - -it's their decision - he can't always have DADDY their to make decisions for him. - - -Those kind of kids - -for the most part , they learn the hard way - - It's a cold hearted world out there if you don't stand up - -it will chew you up and spit you out - DAAD needs to step back - let RJ do what RJ wants to do - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
BShark said:
I just...I can't... wake me up in 11 hours.
now that OUR Snacks - - -what the hell
@jayballer73 they are moving with him.👨👩👦👦🚁
@Crimsonorblue22 RJ in Lawrence and Rod in Australia sounds good.
Ah how I love the presumed OAD drama. Lovely, isn’t it?
@jayballer73 helicopter dad
HighEliteMajor said:
Ah how I love the presumed OAD drama. Lovely, isn’t it?
Self has zero options now basically. In this instance he did get hamstrung a bit in the early part of the cycle. We will never know but I am convinced the class is all but done at this point otherwise.
I will be very intrigued to see how 2020 goes. It will need to be a large class.
Yeah guys. I wouldn't watch this one. It's over.
No kidding? This lil piss ant is leading us on?
He has his Twitter photo upside down, so I guess he means down under by that. I'd much rather have a 2nd year Dotson over him anyway. 8:30 AM Eastern is 8:30PM in Australia. Next...
P.S. What do you want to bet that Jalen either stays with Michigan, or goes to UNC now?
@KUSTEVE That has nothing to do with it, but Hampton is going to the NBL.
@Crimsonorblue22 Yeah it's done. The New Zealand team removed and and all suspense lol.
The Breakers, huh?
KUSTEVE said:
He has his Twitter photo upside down, so I guess he means down under by that. I'd much rather have a 2nd year Dotson over him anyway. 8:30 AM Eastern is 8:30PM in Australia. Next...
P.S. What do you want to bet that Jalen either stays with Michigan, or goes to UNC now?
he will stay at Michigan
jayballer73 said:
KUSTEVE said:
He has his Twitter photo upside down, so I guess he means down under by that. I'd much rather have a 2nd year Dotson over him anyway. 8:30 AM Eastern is 8:30PM in Australia. Next...
P.S. What do you want to bet that Jalen either stays with Michigan, or goes to UNC now?
he will stay at Michigan
KU or UNC all the way is what I've heard and KU has a great shot regardless of RJ commiting to the NBL.
And I thought we were about to see some good stuff from Spring Bill.
BShark said:
jayballer73 said:
KUSTEVE said:
He has his Twitter photo upside down, so I guess he means down under by that. I'd much rather have a 2nd year Dotson over him anyway. 8:30 AM Eastern is 8:30PM in Australia. Next...
P.S. What do you want to bet that Jalen either stays with Michigan, or goes to UNC now?
he will stay at Michigan
KU or UNC all the way is what I've heard and KU has a great shot regardless of RJ commiting to the NBL.
I wouldn't count on KU at all anymore at this point. - -If it was just RJ not coming would be one thing. But with the combination - Of RJ Dad pulling his crap - -and then Juwan being the hire at Michigan - -and looking like Yaklich staying at Michigan - -Wilson will reverse direction and stay put along with their other commit.
Another case of where the parents will win out -they love Michigan and named him after Jalen - -at this point with the way this fricken year has went - -like you said a couple of posts back - -you think our recruiting is done - -your right it is. - - -WITHOUT Jalen - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
jayballer73 said:
KUSTEVE said:
He has his Twitter photo upside down, so I guess he means down under by that. I'd much rather have a 2nd year Dotson over him anyway. 8:30 AM Eastern is 8:30PM in Australia. Next...
P.S. What do you want to bet that Jalen either stays with Michigan, or goes to UNC now?
he will stay at Michigan
KU or UNC all the way is what I've heard and KU has a great shot regardless of RJ commiting to the NBL.
I wouldn't count on KU at all anymore at this point. - -If it was just RJ not coming would be one thing. But with the combination - Of RJ Dad pulling his crap - -and then Juwan being the hire at Michigan - -and looking like Yaklich staying at Michigan - -Wilson will reverse direction and stay put along with their other commit.
Another case of where the parents will win out -they love Michigan and named him after Jalen - -at this point with the way this fricken year has went - -like you said a couple of posts back - -you think our recruiting is done - -your right it is. - - -WITHOUT Jalen - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
If we don't get Dotson back...and Q won't come back... are we looking at Marcus running point?
BShark said:
jayballer73 said:
BShark said:
jayballer73 said:
KUSTEVE said:
He has his Twitter photo upside down, so I guess he means down under by that. I'd much rather have a 2nd year Dotson over him anyway. 8:30 AM Eastern is 8:30PM in Australia. Next...
P.S. What do you want to bet that Jalen either stays with Michigan, or goes to UNC now?
he will stay at Michigan
KU or UNC all the way is what I've heard and KU has a great shot regardless of RJ commiting to the NBL.
I wouldn't count on KU at all anymore at this point. - -If it was just RJ not coming would be one thing. But with the combination - Of RJ Dad pulling his crap - -and then Juwan being the hire at Michigan - -and looking like Yaklich staying at Michigan - -Wilson will reverse direction and stay put along with their other commit.
Another case of where the parents will win out -they love Michigan and named him after Jalen - -at this point with the way this fricken year has went - -like you said a couple of posts back - -you think our recruiting is done - -your right it is. - - -WITHOUT Jalen - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
I don't do VIP - - -and after all the articles that have come out with wrong predictions and misleading articles and anyalsts info this season can't believe anything anymore
KUSTEVE said:
If we don't get Dotson back...and Q won't come back... are we looking at Marcus running point?
That's an NIT team. Need Dot back.
KUSTEVE said:
If we don't get Dotson back...and Q won't come back... are we looking at Marcus running point?
Well we will - either today - hopefully about Devon or tomorrow. - Side note - - boy ESPN really giving things away before RJ announces his decision just made statement about how going to be major discussion - - hmmmm wonder what they mean by that lmao - -what a fricken joke
ESPN ending any potential suspense for sure lol.
Time to lock this thread and delete
complete bull crap
@BeddieKU23 If you wanna barf, there are some great quotes for that from Rod Lavar Hampton here: https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/RJ-Hampton-pro-deal-New-Zealand-Breakers-132369179/ ↗
“He’ll definitely be more prepared for NBA life than if he went to college”
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 If you wanna barf, there are some great quotes for that from Rod Lavar Hampton here: https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/RJ-Hampton-pro-deal-New-Zealand-Breakers-132369179/ ↗
No thanks. Money talks
Probably need to re-name this the Rod Hampton thread. RJ doesn’t seem to have any say in his life.
RJ sure made it sound like he never wanted to play college ball. If that really is the case, good riddance.
BShark said:
RJ sure made it sound like he never wanted to play college ball. If that really is the case, good riddance.
Amen
I think we dodged a bullet.
Can we lose the one-year rule yet?
BeddieKU23 said:
Time to lock this thread and delete
I would if I could lol
jayballer73 said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Time to lock this thread and delete
I would if I could lol
Nah. It just took a dark turn though. I doubt anyone will be singing RJs praises in this thread from here on out. Lol
BShark said:
RJ sure made it sound like he never wanted to play college ball. If that really is the case, good riddance.
ya I caught that little remark too - -think that was daddy talking possibly? - -saying he neve wanted his boy to play college ball?
Since Ryan isn't on here I will copy his last post from the phog because it's really good info. Remember this is the guy that had this stuff first that I had seen.
"FWIW, I was told back when I first mentioned Australia (different thread I think? maybe a locked one?) that it was already signed and the rest of this was going to be him and his dad doing a bit of a dog and pony show. He had a big offer to play in China, but they opted for UA and Australia over that."
So we lose out on yet another prime recruit for this year. So there will be a lot of snide remarks made including myself - venting frustration and be P - - - - - off which is fine - we should be able to do that , yet decision has been made - -no reason to continue to start degrading and all kinds of negative things towards the kid. - -It suck - -ya it sucks big it's a bunch of crap
Yet one thing I've noticed , not only here but everywhere - -when fans think they are getting a kid I've done this just as much as anyone else - -and it all gets caught up in the heat of the moment - -when you think you have a kid - -think it's as sure as sure can be - the kid is a stud , - - unbelievable player - - killer , - - - -how we are going to smash it with this kid.
Then when he declares for another school after all of this - or in RJ'S case over sea's - all of a sudden - he becomes a piece of crap -- or he isn't as good - - or he is a drama queen and activities - or any other nasty mean thing we can say about the kid?- -Is'nt this the same kid that we were heaping all that praise o just yesterday or the day before.?
It's just interesting how these things go. - One minute - were getting the best player in years - and then going to a piece of garbage drama queen kid.
The whole situation sucks - - -Sucks - -B - - - - but nothing we can do. - -I think the best thing to do is like Betty said LOCK THIS DOWN and move on - don't even waste our time any further - it IS a money thing like has been said - -yet it is what it is - -becoming a money business thing - - all I say is - - Screw it. v- - not sure if we have a chance to try possibly and get Kyree Walker yet or not - - haven't heard much.
@jayballer73 Is this really a loss? Seems clear that RJ was never going to college in a million years.
Worth noting that NONE of the coaches involved were even visiting him the last few weeks. So, I think maybe they did know at least somewhat. It is unfortunate though.
This is a disappointment but I think we dodged a bullet just like we did with Precious. There was a lot of time from now until November to wreck a Dodge Charger.
Time to regroup once again and nudge Kyree Walker to reclassify.
Moving on
I guess probably the ONE question I would really have on this would be. - IF indeed RJ truly was never really interested in going to College to play - - then WHY would you come and visit Ku 3-4 times during the recruiting process when you only get ONE paid visit? - when you have to pay for the others on your own - -and your NOT interested? - Doesn't add up
Let's get Dotson back.
jayballer73 said:
I guess probably the ONE question I would really have on this would be. - IF indeed RJ truly was never really interested in going to College to play - - then WHY would you come and visit Ku 3-4 times during the recruiting process when you only get ONE paid visit? - when you have to pay for the others on your own - -and your NOT interested? - Doesn't add up
Idk but this deal was signed a long time ago, almost a month ago is what I've seen. It's a crappy thing to do I agree. His dad really led everyone on as well. I think they saw the value in marketing of college bball and used that to generate hype.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
Let's get Dotson back.
Yesss
Marco said:
Just taking everything into account, how he loves KU and the coaching staff, how they have been on him from day one, how he is announcing on Get Up tomorrow morning and with his homeboy Jalen being on campus Thursday (probably accompanied by RJ) I think, like I said, that we are going to land both RJ and Wilson, but, man!, daddy is starting to make me real nervous,,, in a LaVar Ball kind of way. Oh well, guess we'd only have to put up with him for one year.
And daddy has spoken......
@jayballer73 @Kcmatt7 @BeddieKU23 @KirkIsMyHinrich @HighEliteMajor and whoever else...
RJ tweeted "Big bag got them big mad". It wasn't about the money though guys...definitely not...
And daddy has spoken,,, let's move on. A starting lineup of Dok, Silvio, Enaruna, Dotson (hopefully), and Agbaji with Dave, Mitch, and a combination of Braun, Garrett and McBride coming off the bench doesn't sound half bad.
Marco said:
And daddy has spoken,,, let's move on. A starting lineup of Dok, Silvio, Enaruna, Dotson (hopefully), and Agbaji with Dave, Mitch, and a combination of Braun, Garrett and McBride coming off the bench doesn't sound half bad.
I think Dotson is the difference between a 2-3 seed and staring at the NIT.
Agreed. Would rather watch him for year two than Hampton for year one.
I think Dotson is the difference between a 2-3 seed and staring at the NIT.
I am gonna be honest - unless Agbaji and Dotson take big steps forward, the freshmen come in ready to contribute immediately or Garrett has fixed his jump shot, the ceiling for this KU team is Sweet 16 or Elite 8.
There just isn't enough punch in that backcourt to make a Final 4 run. KU should be able to start a new conference title streak, but this roster probably isn't a title contender.
KU will be good next year. Perhaps even very good. Probably will spend most of the year in the top 10 good. But that's the ceiling. This likely won't be a great team.
@justanotherfan Agree. Garrett having to play 30+ mpg in particular will limit the team. It seems highly unlikely that he improves his jumper much.
Great thread from Sam Vecenie: 🐦 View Tweet
Interesting stuff here. This could become more of a trend. Players are worth more than a scholarship, that much is clear.
BShark said:
@justanotherfan Agree.
Great thread from Sam Vecenie: 🐦 View Tweet
Interesting stuff here. This could become more of a trend. Players are worth more than a scholarship, that much is clear.
This has been coming for a while. I have posted on this board numerous times that college hoops needed to rethink its structure. There are other options out there and more kids are starting to take those other options.
Eliminating the OAD rule is a solution about five years too late for college basketball. That won't solve the problem now. The ability to earn a salary, plus endorsements is too lucrative. A guy like Zion Williamson could have made millions last year on an endorsement deal alone.
The trial has just brought more light to how much its worth to get even a mid tier recruit. Its no surprise that some of these people are starting to believe that money should go into their own pocket instead.
Without knowing how much Zion and his family got to go to Duke, I was surprised he didn't go the pro route simply to sign a deal early. Like you said, it would have been millions.
We could be looking at a huge shift where even the big schools are closer to what is currently MVC level or thereabouts. There is really no reason for anyone in the top 10 minimum (maybe even expand this) to play college ball, then the rates will go up for the 2nd tier talent.
Going to college made Zion more money. He got a ton of exposure that wouldn't have happened overseas and his advertising value has skyrocketed. The American consumer believes in the competitive level of college basketball. Footage from overseas always is received as "those players are not as good". Only real basketball nerds like us understand that those pro leagues are actually more competition.
Zion already had a huge brand w/o Duke or college basketball. That said, ESPN/Duke definitely helped him to some extent.
BigBad said:
Going to college made Zion more money. He got a ton of exposure that wouldn't have happened overseas and his advertising value has skyrocketed. The American consumer believes in the competitive level of college basketball. Footage from overseas always is received as "those players are not as good". Only real basketball nerds like us understand that those pro leagues are actually more competition.
Five years ago I would have agreed with you. But Zion was famous before arriving at Duke thanks to YouTube. There's nothing stopping a high level recruit from going overseas for a year while having a strong ad campaign either stateside, or in Australia or Asia (the Asian market is huge). It may be more lucrative long term to go to Asia and launch a campaign there just based on the population difference.
@justanotherfan RJ had a bigger offer from China according to reports but took the Australia offer due to English language and perceived better lifestyle.
Does this mean Grimes will return?
kjayhawks said:
Does this mean Grimes will return?
no
I got a new thread, Season 19-20 and Beyond, check it out.... I'm interested in your take.
kjayhawks said:
Does this mean Grimes will return?
I hope not
justanotherfan said:
BigBad said:
Going to college made Zion more money. He got a ton of exposure that wouldn't have happened overseas and his advertising value has skyrocketed. The American consumer believes in the competitive level of college basketball. Footage from overseas always is received as "those players are not as good". Only real basketball nerds like us understand that those pro leagues are actually more competition.
Five years ago I would have agreed with you. But Zion was famous before arriving at Duke thanks to YouTube. There's nothing stopping a high level recruit from going overseas for a year while having a strong ad campaign either stateside, or in Australia or Asia (the Asian market is huge). It may be more lucrative long term to go to Asia and launch a campaign there just based on the population difference.
Zion is not the norm. Zion was so popular on youtube as a recruit because he was a walking highlight reel with unique size and athleticism. He was a lot more popular than RJ Barrett, who was a higher ranked recruit than Zion. And Zion's popularity reached another level after he committed to Duke to the point where ESPN and other sports websites were writing articles about him every day. Now, people who don't even watch college basketball know who he is. I don't think that happens if he plays in New Zealand.
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Been in the works for 3 months!! Surely Self knew this.
Woodrow said:
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Been in the works for 3 months!! Surely Self knew this.
I think he probably had faith that Adidas would take care of it.
Woodrow said:
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Been in the works for 3 months!! Surely Self knew this.
Did any coach visit RJ the last three weeks? Pretty telling.
BShark said:
@justanotherfan RJ had a bigger offer from China according to reports but took the Australia offer due to English language and perceived better lifestyle.
Has he seen the spiders and snakes in Australia? LOL
By chance did anyone else wake up their significant other with a loud MFer! This morning?
dylans said:
By chance did anyone else wake up their significant other with a loud MFer! This morning?
And here I thought I was the only one.
You guys!
Crimsonorblue22 said:
You guys!
TELL ME MORE CRIMS
Hampton's twitter is cracking me up. "PEOPLE ARE MAD I TOOK BAGS."
No dude. Nobody is mad you went and got paid. They're mad you tried to pretend you were staying (even though Slater was basically all over this) to get hype.
I'll only mention his name because others are following in his footsteps but since RJ went to Australia there's been two players I've seen that are bypassing College.
Kenyon Martin's son who was signed to Vanderbilt is skipping. Puzzling decision since he wasn't a top recruit.
Now Arizona's Terry Armstrong- a 4 star SF is skipping College to go pro. Poor Sean Miller.
The trend is definitely opening up pandora's box
@BeddieKU23 Hadn't heard about Armstrong. It's pretty curious for lower level guys, but I can't blame them. Nobody has to go to college and kids are starting to realize it.
I wonder about the full story here though. AZ was at 14 scholarship players before he left.
Armstrong didn't qualify
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Armstrong didn't qualify
That's what I was guessing. Thanks for confirming.