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Dam , how soon we forget. Watching the 2007 Big 12 Tourney game between KU/K State. - - Mercy were we loaded.

Rush , Author , Wright , Khan , Young , Collins , Chalmers , Robinson , Jackson ( mercy Jackson was a man ) -We were so deep. - -but more depressed that was a team that ALSO should of won a 2007 National Championship - -waited a year. - -ho hum - - now even more depressed lol. - -you remember played the Big 12 tourney in Oklahoma in 2007 - - Durant was still in College - -what a year.

Been watching 2008 tournament games on youtube myself.

@BShark said in Games on tv:

Been watching 2008 tournament games on youtube myself.

guess I had forgotten. - -we were fricken LOADED

Heard that CBS is just going to show their normal daytime lineup and then re-runs of their evening shows when the basketball games would've been on. Seems like they could throw the public a bone and make a buck at the same time by offering up a replay of some of the best games in NCAA tournament history during those times. They already own all of the rights. With so many sports and basketball-starved fans quarantined in their homes this week it would be a pretty cool deal. I'd love to watch the Magic/Bird final...the Texas Western game...Danny and Miracles...those channels would get so many more people to tune-in than showing re-runs of Blue Bloods or whatever is on TruTV.

Watching osu/Eddie Sutton vs knight. 2005 game. So weird to see a healthy Sutton.

KU playing OSU from 2006 B12 championship quarter finals on ESPNU

Getting just a TINSIE bit of stress relieve - now watching my 2nd KU game of the day against Okie State when we played the Big 12 tourney in Dallas Sasha ,Mario and the boys - -had forgot about CJ Giles - -wound healthe wound but might be a little medicine lol

KU& Texas - - Iowa State & KU yet to come on ESPN Today/Tonight

Young John Higgins hair there

I love Sasha kaun

Dang Robinson got a nasty elbow. Now an intentional.

Was 05 Sutton's last yr? Was he just gone for this game?

@Crimsonorblue22 He got into a car wreck drunk if I remember right and was gone late in the 2006 season before retiring.

@jayballer73 said in Games on tv:

KU& Texas - - Iowa State & KU yet to come on ESPN Today/Tonight

KU and Dayton from Maui this season on ESPN2 at 7:30 I believe and the Baylor game in Waco overnight as well for those who are night owls and/or don't have work tomorrow.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Games on tv:

@jayballer73 said in Games on tv:

KU& Texas - - Iowa State & KU yet to come on ESPN Today/Tonight

KU and Dayton from Maui this season on ESPN2 at 7:30 I believe and the Baylor game in Waco overnight as well for those who are night owls and/or don't have work tomorrow.

oh man that KU/Dayton will be fun to watch again. - - -Man watching this KU/OSU game , makes me really miss the days when we flat got out and ran - -Mario/Brandon/Julian/Russell

@jayballer73 I too miss pushing the ball up the floor instead of walking. Next seasons team should be able to run.

@Texas-Hawk-10 hopefully the Dayton people will watch it!

Watching the 07 Big 12 Tourney. This Durant fellow may have a future.

@FarmerJayhawk said in Games on tv:

Watching the 07 Big 12 Tourney. This Durant fellow may have a future.

lol - -you think

@FarmerJayhawk said in Games on tv:

Watching the 07 Big 12 Tourney. This Durant fellow may have a future.

IDK seems injury prone. Lol

PSA: the Buddy Hield at Allen game on the deuce rn

@FarmerJayhawk said in Games on tv:

PSA: the Buddy Hield at Allen game on the deuce rn

3 hours too so they're showing the whole game too!

Easily a top 5 game that's ever taken place inside AFH.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Games on tv:

@FarmerJayhawk said in Games on tv:

PSA: the Buddy Hield at Allen game on the deuce rn

3 hours too so they're showing the whole game too!

Easily a top 5 game that's ever taken place inside AFH.

Phew! Might as well. That game was NUTS. I’ve never watched the tv broadcast so this is a lot of fun.

I was there too!

No joke I forgot Brannen Greene was a person

Takes us each back in time. Kinda cool. Higgins has been in the last 3 games I've watched🤢 Perry is watching I am sure. Everyone see the video of d'tae commenting on his and others play? Hanni said they have been considering having other players do it and to stay tuned. Girls and I watched it twice and it was good to laugh after the last week. Stay safe Bucketeers♥️🙏💙

That team was soooo talented. Always wonder what would’ve been if Cheick had been able to play and practice from the start.

@FarmerJayhawk HEM could tell you. Lol

@dylans said in Games on tv:

@FarmerJayhawk HEM could tell you. Lol

You see him make some good plays then start playing the 4 along with Perry lol

Maybe we should start a game thread on the game!

@wissox the best regular season game of all time IMO.

@wissox said in Games on tv:

Maybe we should start a game thread on the game!

3 OTs

I hated Spangler every year

@FarmerJayhawk forgot he played that much!

Where's Svi? Was he here then?

@RockChalkinTexas said in Games on tv:

Where's Svi? Was he here then?

He just checked in

@wissox said in Games on tv:

Maybe we should start a game thread on the game!

Done!

@RockChalkinTexas dtae is funny no matter what he does! He's a happy go lucky guy. The guy u want to be around. Was weird seeing svi and vick on the bench during the big 12 championship tourney game against wv.

Our Tennessee game this yr, at 3, on the u. I'm pretty much house bound. Gym closed, no work. Been to the store a million times. Got a vet apt thurs, they will get Rio from the car. I like how everybody is working! Our state is doing a good job. Better than.....

Another KU Classic on ESPN2 right now. Jayhawks vs. Kevin Durant & Texas in the 2007 B12 Tournament Final.

@nwhawkfan that was on the other night and we watched it.

ESPN+ showing 2007 Durant vs KU in the Big 12 tournament

Anyone out there?

We don't have close to the amount of talent now as what we had on that 2006-07 team. Just ridiculous

KU Athletics sent out an email with the list of games being replayed on their networks through Saturday. All times are Central and all games on ESPNU unless otherwise noted.

Wednesday

6am and 6pm 2007 Big 12 Title game vs. Texas

4:30pm 2019 Maui Championship game vs. Dayton

Thursday

4:30am 2019 Champions Classic vs. Duke (I wouldn't recommend this game since KU lost)

12pm 2019 Maui Championship game vs. Dayton

Friday

7am Kansas vs. Georgia softball on SEC Network (I believe KU was run ruled in this game so I wouldn't recommend watching it).

Saturday

12:30am 2020 Big 12/SEC game vs. Tennessee

8:30am 2016 Triple OT game vs. Oklahoma (1 vs.1 game)

11:30am 2007 Big 12 Title game vs. Texas

I have a few games from this year on my DVR. But I just can’t bring myself to watch them. This devastated me way more than it should have.

@rockchalkwyo said in Games on tv:

I have a few games from this year on my DVR. But I just can’t bring myself to watch them. This devastated me way more than it should have.

same for me. I DVR'd the last couple games that I knew I'd miss with traveling etc, but I haven't watched them yet. :disappointed_face:

Feeling bad for the players mostly

@Texas-Hawk-10 they've played them all! Winners any way.

We had a game blog going last night, ou 3 ot. @FarmerJayhawk ruined it for us though!🤣

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Games on tv:

We had a game blog going last night, ou 3 ot. @FarmerJayhawk ruined it for us though!🤣

Oops 😳

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Games on tv:

We had a game blog going last night, ou 3 ot. @FarmerJayhawk ruined it for us though!🤣

At least he had the decency to put "we good" in the post

@approxinfinity I know. I was watching a little of that game, and goodness, we sure had stockpiled some serious depth. They were good enough to beat defending NC Florida who'd also win it that year, but I look at their tourney games and they underachieved. Beat 8 seed Kentucky by 12, then, 14 seed SIU which they beat only by 3, and then got controlled by UCLA, no slouches, but young, some guy named Westbrook and Darren Collison who torched us if I recall correctly, although I'd rather not.

@wissox I want to watch that Ucla game again. For a game I never rewatched I think about it an awful lot. I remember thinking how terribly unfair it was that we had to play them in California when we were the one seed. I think they also had Mbah Moute and possibly other pros. That UCLA team was loaded.

@approxinfinity said in Games on tv:

@wissox I want to watch that Ucla game again. For a game I never rewatched I think about it an awful lot. I remember thinking how terribly unfair it was that we had to play them in California when we were the one seed. I think they also had Mbah Moute and possibly other pros. That UCLA team was loaded.

Did they have Westbrook and Love on that team or were those two on the 2008 team?

@Texas-Hawk-10 no Love (I just checked) the other pro was Aaron Afflalo, so 4 very solid NBA starters including an MVP

@Texas-Hawk-10 I looked at their roster and no Love, but they had Westbrook. @approxinfinity I'm not sure I want to watch it. I recall them making a bunch of threes and us turning it over frequently.

yep watching the KU/Dayton Maui - - already MISSING THESE GUYS

@jayballer73 That was a good game. We played Toppin about as well as anyone can play him.

@Marco said in Games on tv:

@jayballer73 That was a good game. We played Toppin about as well as anyone can play him.

ya it was just wish they didn't have to cut so much out

@wissox said in Games on tv:

@Texas-Hawk-10 I looked at their roster and no Love, but they had Westbrook. @approxinfinity I'm not sure I want to watch it. I recall them making a bunch of threes and us turning it over frequently.

UCLA only made 8 3's in the game and KU did have 21 turnovers, but UCLA had 25 according to the box score. I believe KU's biggest issue was an inability to make shots at the basket missing a bunch of layups and bunnies that game.

Also looks like Westbrook was a non factor that game as he only played 5 minutes.

I was at that game. Heart breaker. Just not our best game at a time that we needed close to our best game.

I don't know if I can stomach it, but the 2013 KU-Mich sweet 16 game is on BIG Sunday at 12:00 Noon, central time.

08 ku Memphis at 11 am cbs Sunday be there be Sq. Rock Chalk party!

@wissox said in Games on tv:

I don't know if I can stomach it, but the 2013 KU-Mich sweet 16 game is on BIG Sunday at 12:00 Noon, central time.

think I will watch KU?Memphis 2008 National title instea lol - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

tied up 13-13. Rock chalk... just went up two with that drive by Rush.

PS Bill is live tweeting the game

There's Roy with a sticker! I just learned this game is on CBS. First good news I've had in a week.

I forgot how baggy those shorts were.

@tundrahok said in Games on tv:

There's Roy with a sticker! I just learned this game is on CBS. First good news I've had in a week.

Just tuned in. A tonic for our times.

Rush!❤️💙

I also forgot how skinny Arthur is, for a big.

Can see why Self loves 2 bigs here. They dble down on the post so good and guards cover center field! That's what we lack now.

@tundrahok and Cole!

I'm enjoying twitter... pollard, rush, lightfoot all chiming in along with Self

@Crimsonorblue22 Yes, long arms, rangy. Cole looked good while he was in. UNC was his break-out game, of course. I didn't remember much about him in this game.

Up 5 at half, looking good.

My son that lives in wichita and me went to see self made play there this past summer. The game that killed Perry. DA and LL were like 1 - 50. Awful. Perry couldn't have helped that much. Jeremy case even played😢 it was like the worse game ever. Worse than the tcu ymca game, and of course in front of WSU fans. Gotta say, a lot of Perry fans there!

Half time only lasted one commercial!

These guys didn't lack confidence!

was 2008 peak long shorts?

@DanR Looks like it. 1988 was the opposite.

I'd enjoy this game a lot more if my local station wasn't running a nonstop news crawl at the bottom of the screen. Would've liked a little break from all that's going on in the real world.

What a deep team. Quality backing up quality. Haven't had that depth in a while.

@DanR gonna guess no. Idk

Sherron's shorts were ankle length his senior year, so maybe 2009 was peak long shorts.

I don't miss Billy Packer

@DanR you know any of the corona victims in Lawrence? I assume you are safely back and hopefully able to work from home?

Kind of a snide remark there by Jim Nantz: "They both found their wives in, of all places, Lawrence, Kansas."

@nwhawkfan I didn't take it as derogatory, more just a low probability, on a world-wide scale.

Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, she walks into mine.

Kind of like that.

But maybe he meant it the other way.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Games on tv:

@DanR you know any of the corona victims in Lawrence? I assume you are safely back and hopefully able to work from home?

They don't publish names of the patients... one KU student I think who went to FL for spring break. Everyone we know is OK.

I've worked from home for the past 20 years, so I'm used to the routine! (not exactly super busy though, unfortunately)

down 6 with 5:10... not looking good.

Self live tweeting during the game is the greatest thing ever. Needed this

Bunch of people just called the game over back in 2008

Truth be told, it was about this time that I thought this wasn't gonna be our year...again.

@DanR yeah, just thought u might know. My son has been home but also has kids. His wife is a cpa so she has been at office,🥴😷

Not the shot, wait on it!

Dang, can we get there?

Didn't cal steal Cromwell's wife

I'm fighting the urge to stand up

My heart rate is elevated

We r losing!

No wonder us fans never give up, we've been conditioned! ❤️💙

With the way the refs micro-manage games nowadays, I bet they'd call that T on the Memphis guy for slamming the ball.

If we pull this off, I'm storming Mass Street

What a Houdini act !

We're going to Over Time!

Big balls Chalmers!

heroic pass by Sherron

@nwhawkfan said in Games on tv:

With the way the refs micro-manage games nowadays, I bet they'd call that T on the Memphis guy for slamming the ball.

Would've been a double T with Arthur pounding the ball into ground as well.

I'm calling it, Kansas by 7!

Just imagine how much better a player Sherron could've been if he could've said no to a cheeseburger.

@Texas-Hawk-10 He matured early, then aged rapidly.

@tundrahok He ate himself out of basketball because he didn't have any self control when it came to his diet. He's not as big as he used to be, but he's still pretty chunky if you follow him on any social media platforms.

I'm anti-social, but I believe you.

Looked like they didn't restart the clock for a couple of seconds.

Could have called a foul there, on both sides.

...and then they didn't stop it after the whistle. Makeup call?

3rd NCAA conference championship, but 5th national championship, buddy.

I'm smiling!

What a finish.

This was an emotional game for our local alumni group, and for more than the obvious reasons.

One of our regulars had died suddenly of a heart attack a few days before the Final Four. Adam was a real gregarious guy who'd buy a shot at the end of each KU victory...he called it "the winning shot." So when we won the championship, a bunch of us did shots in his honor.

The team this year deserved to play for this too! Now I'm not smiling! I do get it. Life's not fair!

@nwhawkfan that was a sweet memory!

Now I want to see 1988

Well, that was a nice respite. RCJH ! Everybody stay safe out there.

@tundrahok it’s on YouTube if you want to watch it. I have a few times.

Fun to do it together

Dam that was one DEEP team - - MARIO - - - - SWEET

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Games on tv:

The team this year deserved to play for this too! Now I'm not smiling! I do get it. Life's not fair!

ya bites. - - I think ESPN & CBS and such showing more of KU in these types of things this year - - Cause THEY KNOW - this was OUR YEAR

Did we win?

@wissox said in Games on tv:

Did we win?

ya - - -we won

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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Games on tv:

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LMAO - - -that's funny . - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Games on tv:

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Lolol so good

Kansas-Purdue from 1994 sweet 16 when Glenn Robinson is on BTN at 3 and at 7. Not the most painful loss we've had so I might watch.

@wissox no losses! But wins, thx for updates!

I know, there's few losses I like to rewatch. I might just to see the guys from that era play.

@wissox I'd like to see the wins against Roy.

@Crimsonorblue22 YouTube has them

I'm sure someone else has posted this somewhere already, but this is fun to watch:

https://video.wmt.media/embed/cc942bdd-f85a-414d-b08f-df39c3e05858 ↗

Self narrates the ending of the 2018 Elite Eight game against Duke in Omaha. This game will re-air on CBS Sports Network on Sunday, March 29 at 12 p.m. and 7 p.m. central.

@bskeet that was so cool! Where did you find that?

@wissox said in Games on tv:

Kansas-Purdue from 1994 sweet 16 when Glenn Robinson is on BTN at 3 and at 7. Not the most painful loss we've had so I might watch.

That one still stings. For the first 15 years of my true Jayhawk fandom (starting in ‘89 a year late to the party) I could tell you every stinking team KU lost to and the final score. Most of that brain space is wasted on work info now. 😢

@bskeet said in Games on tv:

I'm sure someone else has posted this somewhere already, but this is fun to watch:

https://video.wmt.media/embed/cc942bdd-f85a-414d-b08f-df39c3e05858 ↗

Self narrates the ending of the 2018 Elite Eight game against Duke in Omaha. This game will re-air on CBS Sports Network on Sunday, March 29 at 12 p.m. and 7 p.m. central.

Nice! Glad he’s doing them as a series.

I did watch the 2nd half of the Purdue game. Robinson had done most of his damage in the 1st half so I didn't see a lot of what I remember. Cuonzo Martin was on that Purdue team too, so they were pretty stout. They're a competitive program that just hasn't been able to climb that hurdle into the FF. Of course it's their own fault in that epic game against Virginia last years elite 8. Why 3 Purdue guys would leave defending the basket to chase a loose ball down court in the last seconds of a certain win had they just stayed home where they should have been, there's a different champion.

That KU team was still pretty young, Jacque Vaughn, Scott Pollard were some names that would play a big role coming up.

@BShark arent we doing the game?💙❤️ It's duke!

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Games on tv:

@BShark arent we doing the game?💙❤️ It's duke!

would be nice bit it's on CBS Sports network can't get that

Marcus looks so different

Duke players reflect their coach, so whiny! KU tough! News flash, I know! 🤣

Watching the 1985 Championship, Villanova v. Georgetown, I find it very weird when you compare it to today's game.

No shot clock, so Nova went into the four corners and sat on the ball for the last two minutes of the first half. Also minimal (and pretty basic) TV graphics, so you had to wait to find out the score and time if you'd just tuned in (or hadn't been paying attention before). Not to mention having Brent Musberger on the call instead of Jim Nantz.

And of course, the short shorts.

Malik made tripper look silly!

Earlier today ESPN2 aired the 1992 Sweet 16 women's game between KU (w/Angel Goodrich) and Pat Summitt's Tennessee Lady Vols.

Wasn't sure why that particular game, until I realized that Summitt had been diagnosed with Alzheimer's earlier in the season. It turned out that her final win as a head coach was against the 11th-seeded Jayhawks.

(They lost in the next round to eventual champ Baylor, led by Britney Griner.)

KU started strong and led the entire first half, but the Lady Vols pulled away for the win.

Correction on the date of that game...2012, not 1992. (Got distracted watching the 1995 men's final.)

1985...geez

@nwhawkfan angel was so good, I watched the girls back then, just to watch her. She was a good pt!

@nwhawkfan Didn't KU have a 20 point lead at one point in the 1st of that game?

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Games on tv:

@nwhawkfan angel was so good, I watched the girls back then, just to watch her. She was a good pt!

Never thought I'd say this, but I miss Bonnie
-ball. At least they were reasonably competitive.

@Texas-Hawk-10 said in Games on tv:

@nwhawkfan Didn't KU have a 20 point lead at one point in the 1st of that game?

I think it was around 15 or so midway thru the first half. Then the Vols made their comeback.

Was pulling for Nova in that '85 final. I'd watched Georgetown win the title the year before at the Kingdome (RIP, imploded 20 years ago last week).
I thought the Hoyas were a bunch of cheap-shot artists, though I admired Ewing's game. The Big East refs let players get away with a lot of stuff back then.

And now CBS brings back bad memories...the 1997 final, Arizona (who upset overall number 1 seed KU) vs. Kentucky.

Shoulda been us in the final. What a loaded lineup, The Truth, Jacque, Pollard, LaFrentz, Haase.

@nwhawkfan And then follow it up with the 2010 title game. That might be the most under appreciated team of the Bill Self era. That was the most loaded front court in recent history. Cole, the Morris Twins, T-Rob, and Jeff Withey (after Fall semester was over). Plus a senior Sherron Collins running the show, and the second best OAD to roll through Lawrence in Xavier Henry. 8 guys from that roster played in the NBA at some point which is more than the title team had.

People talk about the missed opportunity the following year because KU lost in the Elite 8, but to me, this was the second best team of the Bill Self era only to the title team until this season.

Forgot how Malik dominated Duke in 2018. He was the only one to score in OT! Crazy...especially now that we know what Devonte was capable of.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Games on tv:

@bskeet that was so cool! Where did you find that?

It was featured in an email I got from KU.. not sure which dept.

@bskeet it's on the ku athletics website. They have the winners from the tweets from the game, some sweet man/woman caves🤣 cool pics! Everyone needs to check it out.

I watched the first half (cuz im old and need my rest) of the 2008 game vs NC last night. It was a beautiful thing. NC was the overall #1 seed and averaged about 300 pts per game that year (something like that). They were supposed to steamroll poor, pathetic (35-3) KU. I remembered beating them, but I forgot that we got out to a 40-12 first half lead. I should have just stayed up and watched the whole thing because I was amped!

So, after watching the 1988 game a few nights ago, where we were also supposed to get steamrolled by a far superior, freakishly athletic OU team - (and if I remember correctly we also beat them) I've come to the conclusion that when we get to the title game next year, we should pray that we get to play a far superior team who is supposed to crush us.

@nuleafjhawk said in Games on tv:

I watched the first half (cuz im old and need my rest) of the 2008 game vs NC last night. It was a beautiful thing. NC was the overall #1 seed and averaged about 300 pts per game that year (something like that). They were supposed to steamroll poor, pathetic (35-3) KU. I remembered beating them, but I forgot that we got out to a 40-12 first half lead. I should have just stayed up and watched the whole thing because I was amped!

So, after watching the 1988 game a few nights ago, where we were also supposed to get steamrolled by a far superior, freakishly athletic OU team - (and if I remember correctly we also beat them) I've come to the conclusion that when we get to the title game next year, we should pray that we get to play a far superior team who is supposed to crush us.

That happened in 2012 and Kansas lost.

@Texas-Hawk-10

2 out of 3 ain't bad

FYI...if you need your KU fixes in this time:

Saturday is the day (all times eastern because that's where I live)

CBS sports network:

3PM KU vs. Kentucky (2012)

5pm KU vs OU (1988...good watch there)

7PM KU vs Syracuse (2003)

@bmensch1 Well 1 out of 3 I'll be interested in watching, although since I was in the stands in 2012 I might watch some of that since I have never watched the telecast.

@nwhawkfan said in Games on tv:

And now CBS brings back bad memories...the 1997 final, Arizona (who upset overall number 1 seed KU) vs. Kentucky.

Shoulda been us in the final. What a loaded lineup, The Truth, Jacque, Pollard, LaFrentz, Haase.

Oh man, that was a heartbreaker.

For some happier memories, check out this edition of Self Perspectives:

https://storage.googleapis.com/wmt-video/stream/2020/04/01/bb153ede-16e1-456d-a6bf-29836f2d9c6b/playlist.m3u8 ↗

KU vs Dayton 2019 Maui Invitational... Starting with 7 min left in regulation...

And tonight it's "Glory Road" on ESPN, the story of the 1966 Texas Western team, now UTEP.

Of course, Texas Western beat KU in double overtime to win the Midwest Regional.

(BTW, that scene in the movie that shows the Miners team getting racially harassed in Seattle was fabricated "for dramatic effect." In fact, Seattle U. had several black players on their roster and had been integrated for years. Back in the late Fifties, Elgin Baylor led them to the NCAA Finals.)

@nwhawkfan the call on JoJo still is considered one of the most controversial of all time. KU had several American players on the team that weren’t white (not using the term African American anymore, never liked it. I’m not Irish American). I like the movie especially how they call out a racist Adolf Rupp.

Later the ref who made the call said it was so close on the line that if Jo Jo had worn different color sneakers he might have called the shot good.

My main gripe with the movie (like every Disney sports movie) is that they're so busy trying to create a feel-good atmosphere that they can't get the details right. Like the mention of "Division I basketball," a term that didn't exist back then. And KU playing in white-and-red uniforms?

@nwhawkfan said in Games on tv:

Later the ref who made the call said it was so close on the line that if Jo Jo had worn different color sneakers he might have called the shot good.

My main gripe with the movie (like every Disney sports movie) is that they're so busy trying to create a feel-good atmosphere that they can't get the details right. Like the mention of "Division I basketball," a term that didn't exist back then. And KU playing in white-and-red uniforms?

Very little about that movie is historically accurate. At least 90% of the details in based on true story movies are made up.

These are the three most egregious errors about the team specifically that the movie ignores. Don Haskins got hired by Texas Western in 1961. Texas Western had already broken their color barrier before awhile before Haskins ever set foot in El Paso. There were already 3 black players on the TW roster when Haskins was hired including Nolan Richardson.

Second egregious error to me was that all of the black players recruited after Haskins were in the same recruiting class. Some were, but not all of them. Harry Flournoy and Orsten Artis were seniors, Bobby Joe Hill and Neville She'd were juniors, and Willie Cager, David Lattin, and Willie Worsley were sophomores. This was still at a time when freshmen weren't allowed to played on the varsity team so none of those players were actually freshmen.

Third egregious error. Portraying TW as a school coming out of nowhere to win the title. That team was a title contender 2 years prior in 1964 and an NIT team in 1965 when the NIT was still a loaded tournament and TW was a top 10 team for a big chunk of the 1965-66 season.

There's plenty of other fabrication in the movie, but those are the 3 biggest ones to me. It's a good movie, but twisting reality is not a problem unique to Disney when making a "based on a true story" or sports movie.

Friday Night Lights was not a Disney movie and there's almost nothing about that movie that was historically accurate.

To be honest, when I - not exaggerating - hear "based on a true story" in a movie commerical that is usually enough to keep me from seeing it - too often they feel patronizing.

Not a KU game, but involves a KU legend. 5pm Central today, ESPN is showing game 6 of the 2008 NBA Finals so you can watch Paul Pierce win his only NBA Championship while earning MVP honors for the series.

ESPN is showing this game to honor Kevin Garnett's HOF induction which was announced today along with Tim Duncan and Kobe Bryant. ESPN will be showing other great games from Kobe and Duncan on ESPN throughout the day today for those interested.

Right now, ESPN is showing Kobe's final game against the Jazz. This game featured a pair of Jayhawks with Tarik Black for the Lakers and Jeff Withey for the Jazz.

Since I was in the dome in 2012, I've never seen the game so I'm watching it right now. Still amazed I got to attend a NC game, but at 50 bucks a ticket, it was hard to pass up. That Kentucky team was so good even Cal couldn't screw it up and won his NC.

@wissox said in Games on tv:

Since I was in the dome in 2012, I've never seen the game so I'm watching it right now. Still amazed I got to attend a NC game, but at 50 bucks a ticket, it was hard to pass up. That Kentucky team was so good even Cal couldn't screw it up and won his NC.

It's still amazing to me how Self's least talented team by far, Connor Teahan, Kevin Young, and Justin Wesley was bench, made it to the national title game that year. That season was by far Self's best coaching job.

Watching the 1988 championship game for the first time a couple observations...

First half Manning was not great. I was surprised. Many turnovers. Second half was much better.

The rest of the team was conversely much better than I expected.

Wow these guys got out and ran all game. Also, full court pressure all game. Love it. However, this contributed heavily to the turnovers. Forced passes and shots.

Oklahoma was loaded! Harvey Grant, Stacey King, Mookie Blaylock? Crazy!

Also, our guys scrapped like hell.

Watching the 2003 loss. I'm in the first half . I can't believe we got back in the game after this first half.

I haven’t watched the 2003 or the 2012 loss yet. The 2012 would be easier on me. That 2003 game was one of the hardest KI loses next to Arizona in 1997 that I’ve ever dealt with. Usually I’m mad for a day, those 2 took months to recover from.

@kjayhawks Only 2 months? I'm still not over Syracuse!

Watching the 2012 final, I forgot what a good shot blocker Jeff Withey was. Couldn't really translate that to the pros though.

Of course Anthony Davis has gotten most of the pub since then, and deservedly so in retrospect. He had as many blocks as points (6) in the championship game. But he did get outrebounded by T-Rob, 17 to 16.

Self-perspective 3 is out, n Carolina game. KU athletics. I love these!

@nwhawkfan said in Games on tv:

Watching the 2012 final, I forgot what a good shot blocker Jeff Withey was. Couldn't really translate that to the pros though.

Of course Anthony Davis has gotten most of the pub since then, and deservedly so in retrospect. He had as many blocks as points (6) in the championship game. But he did get outrebounded by T-Rob, 17 to 16.

Withey and T-Rob were too one dimensional as players to stick in the NBA long term. Neither had much offensive skill to their games. Withey was a defensive specialist and Robinson was a rebounding specialist. AD is insanely skilled because of how late his growth spurt was. He was a 6'2" until late in high school so he developed his game as a PG because of that. AD is a unique talent in basketball because of that.

@Crimsonorblue22 said in Games on tv:

Self-perspective 3 is out, n Carolina game. KU athletics. I love these!

Right on!

https://kuathletics.com/self-perspective-episode-3/ ↗

@bskeet I can certainly see how it's especially hard for a big to catch on to Selfs O in their first year. Diallo for one.

D Jackson and S Kaun were in their "prime." In fact, now that you say it, I realize that we should have expected Azibuke to have a great year. It kind of surprised me, but history shows that a 4-year big usually has significant impact.

@bskeet hard for me to believe that we would’nt have made at least the final four this season.

@bskeet just watched it, so many guys stepped up. What a cohesive team. All those bigs and guards that played their roles. I loved Cole vs Tyler in this game! I wish this yr we could've done better w/the help the helper-Selfs first favorite play. We always called it the guy playing center field. Russell rob. did a perfect job executing that! I think Self is enjoying this as much as we are watching it.

@kjayhawks said in Games on tv:

@bskeet hard for me to believe that we would’ve have made at least the final four this season.

Hard to know. I think it's fair to be skeptical.

That said, we didn't have to be one of the best KU teams of all time to win the NC this year... we just had to be better than the competition this year. Our body of work suggested we had played some of the best and won most of the time.

We had not played many Big-10 teams, so that was a big unknown.

@bskeet no one could’ve predicted what upset would’ve happened. That’s why I don’t agree with giving us any type of award. Man it will be a long time before I get over not playing this year.

Yeah.. I'm all for earning it. That way there's no dispute (until the NCAA comes in and waves its wand of asterisks).

We played the best teams, doke was hitting his peak, had 2 of the best players in the country and the best defensive player, doke getting accolades for D too. Weren’t ranked 1 for no reason. I believe it was ours for the taking. Doke wasn’t hurting his wrists again, they’re titanic!🤣 it was our year! 🏆❤️💙

Self-perspective 4 is out, Baylor win🏀🏀🏀🏀❤️💙

https://kuathletics.com/self-perspective-episode-4/ ↗

Game 5
https://kuathletics.com/ ↗

Guess? I wanted this one

Anybody seen the new self-perspective game? Ej's isu's game?

I need to get caught up on these.

@ajvan they are so good! Learn so much. Can really see how hard it is for frosh to learn the system, unless they've been in a good hs program.

Super cool that Self & co are producing them.

@ajvan I'm trying to think of any other of my favorite games I'd like him to do. So far, he's done all of them, that I can remember. I could probably watch him do all of the wins. I think the Ohio st win, Purdue win.

Self-perspective 8 is up. 2013 ou game. Before HD.