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Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux • Apr 02, 2017 11:51 PM

Being reported that Bolden will transfer from Duke. Nothing official yet that I've seen but there has been a lot of smoke lately that he will transfer to TCU. If he does transfer, honestly I hope it's not to KU.

Roy: Master of Illusion • Apr 02, 2017 11:40 PM

Lots of good discussion here.

@HawkChamp

Not sure the shooting could be much better next year. KU was 6th in the country in 3pt% this year. However there is a lot of room for improvement in terms of athleticism, length/height and depth which should easily offset the shooting maybe getting worse. Either way I'm excited for the upcoming season as always.

Agree with you about the Oregon loss. Oregon was just much more athletic and their defense stifled KU. In no spot did it show more than Bell vs Lucas.

@BeddieKU23

Easily the best for KU performance wise, and a surefire NBA player. This was just, unfortunately, the worst that KU has ever been in the post under Self.

@HawkChamp said:

If you have a guard oriented team, you have to do everything just right to win a ring. With post presence, it gives you a larger margin for error. We did not do everything right and lost.

All it takes is one off shooting night and you are done. Two double post teams in the title game this year. Doesn't always work out that way of course.

@drgnslayr

It will depend on the personnel. Self has shown he will play the style that gives KU the best chance to win. I bet we see a mix next year. Preston will play in the post, but he has wing skills.

@KUSTEVE

Keepin it real.

@DCHawker

Well, Self didn't exactly have a lot of kids to trot out there this year that could compete at the P5 level.

Roy: Master of Illusion • Apr 02, 2017 09:57 PM

@DCHawker

UNC has three guys that were in the OAD ranking range though.

I mean obviously Pinson is a bust at this point. I could hardly imagine the crap we'd hear from the media if KU had a Pinson type situation. It was bad enough with Selden, and Selden actually produced. Just seems to deflect right off of Roy and UNC.

@HawkChamp

Ifs and buts....buuuuuut KU really should have won in 03.

Roy: Master of Illusion • Apr 02, 2017 09:20 PM

@HawkChamp

Not a great scorer, but he had a very efficient offensive game for a FR. Davis had one of the most impactful seasons in the history of CBB*. If Doke progresses to even 80% of that then I would bet on KU making a deep run in March.

139 ORTG, 80 DRTG, 35 PER, 18.7 BPM, 62% from the floor. Just completely ridiculous and even Cal couldn't screw it up.

Cunliffe will definitely play I agree, it's just how good will he be. Fortunately, I don't think he has to be even a top 3 player on the team for KU to be really good.

Roy: Master of Illusion • Apr 02, 2017 08:58 PM

@HawkChamp

I'm excited as anyone to watch a hopefully healthy full season but Udoka lacks the polished offensive game Okafor and Davis had. Defensively, yes he could have a fantastic input.

Newman can absolutely hoop. I would bet on a really good year from him.

Cunliffe I am really not sure after watching his games at ASU. He seems to lack basketball skills, but is a good athlete. Shot 35% from the floor but 40% from three. With better players around him and a smaller role I could see him being a solid player for KU but it will take work.

Roy: Master of Illusion • Apr 02, 2017 07:16 PM

@BeddieKU23

How many kids has it really cost UNC though. Maybe Ingram and SKJ. UNC still has a tremendous geographical and historic advantage in recruiting.

There is definitely something to be said about recruiting higher ranked kids that are tweeners or have NBA deficiencies though.

Really I just wanted to post this to point it out. A stark contrast to what Self was working with this year.

Roy: Master of Illusion • Apr 02, 2017 04:27 PM

Imagine if Self still had Embiid, Wiggins and Oubre.

Roy: Master of Illusion • Apr 02, 2017 04:21 PM

Joel Berry 4* #30 JR

Isaiah Hicks 5* #16 SR

Justin Jackson 5* #9 A TOP TEN RECRUIT JR

Kennedy Meeks 4* #58 SR

Theo Pinson 5* #14 FIVE STAR BENCH WARMER JR

All rankings 247 composite. Anyone who doesn't think Self would roll to a title with this team can fight me.

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux • Apr 02, 2017 03:15 PM

@dylans

1%

Never say never kinda thing. It was odd that he re-added KU.

Right on. Congrats to coach Self.

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux • Apr 02, 2017 02:03 PM

@truehawk93

Bullets dodged.

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux • Apr 01, 2017 03:39 PM

Duval will be cutting KU shortly. Which if we aren't going to get him, is much better than him dragging it out so the staff can move on.

Bill Self Likely HOFer • Apr 01, 2017 02:53 AM

"sources"

That just always amused me for some reason.

Bill Self Likely HOFer • Apr 01, 2017 02:51 AM

Apparently it will happen, someone leaked it. All over the internets right now. Hopefully true, not sure why it wouldn't be but you never know. Fantastic if true.

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux • Apr 01, 2017 02:22 AM

The Jacobs brothers are transferring to Hillcrest Prep. Fantastic for them and KU. This should do nothing but help Markese's development. It really wouldn't shock me if KU found room for Demarius at the end of the bench if they want to be together in college. I think Self has learned his lesson there...

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux • Mar 31, 2017 10:00 PM

@jayballer54

Graham would have to leave for that to be the case. Imagine he isn't going to UConn because Adams is staying.

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux • Mar 31, 2017 09:11 PM

Thread from MS about guards to keep an eye on. Mentioned that KU is waiting on Duval but you read between the lines and figure KU is probably not getting Duval.

Anyway names mentioned: Thomas Allen, Marcus Evans, Mark Smith, Jermaine Cousinard ( @BeddieKU23 TRIGGERED ), and Makai Ashton-Langford.

Supposedly Kentucky is also kicking the tires on Allen, what a step-up that would be for him if he ends up at KU or UK...

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux • Mar 31, 2017 08:37 PM

@BeddieKU23

Yes please!

KU Buckets Go Fund Me Campaign • Mar 31, 2017 06:29 PM

@dylans

Can't imagine who for. :smirk: :thought_balloon:

KU Buckets Go Fund Me Campaign • Mar 31, 2017 05:43 PM

I think it's fine to have this up. It offers some level of protection for people that want that.

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux • Mar 31, 2017 05:35 PM

@Crimsonorblue22

This still happens.

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux • Mar 31, 2017 05:03 PM

@BeddieKU23

If he could shoot EVERYONE would be on him.

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux • Mar 31, 2017 04:54 PM

@BeddieKU23

You really have to look at why the kid is in JUCO. Then of course throw out the stats and just evaluate. KU hasn't had the best luck with JUCOs but I feel Juiston could change that.

Yeah, no idea what is going on with Bagley but no way he ends up at KU. He will be great wherever he goes, probably UK.

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux • Mar 31, 2017 04:40 PM

Marvin Bagley has added KU back to the list of schools he is considering. Lol.

KU Players Leaving/Staying Tracker • Mar 31, 2017 04:06 PM

Summary for people here that don't want to go find it: McCoy has a handler that is very involved. Said handler has basically made it clear that McCoy (a very raw offensive player) will be OAD. And no doubt money will be required to secure his services.

KU Players Leaving/Staying Tracker • Mar 31, 2017 04:02 PM

@BeddieKU23 said:

Too many kids have handlers as well and most of them are not involved for the right reasons other then personal gain.

Yeah I read a comment the other day from Slater about Brandon McCoy and I was suddenly a lot more okay with him losing interest in KU...

KU Buckets Go Fund Me Campaign • Mar 31, 2017 03:58 PM

@Kcmatt7

Ok I was thinking they had to. I'd rather just send @approxinfinity gifted paypal in that case.

KU Buckets Go Fund Me Campaign • Mar 31, 2017 03:56 PM

@approxinfinity

Does gofundme take a cut?

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux • Mar 31, 2017 03:52 PM

@BeddieKU23

Definitely. Forgot to mention we lost Trae due to mom. That one was crystal clear even.

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux • Mar 31, 2017 03:43 PM

@jayballer54

Got Josh due to mom, lost Cody Riley due to mom. Mom definitely matters.

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux • Mar 31, 2017 03:23 PM

I like this post from MS...

"I've mentioned a number of times the KU has a great in with Grimes. Lets just say that his mom knows KU well. VERY WELL!"

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux • Mar 31, 2017 02:35 PM

@jayballer54

ISU will be bad.

Texas if Jones stays in the draft not much hope for them despite a solid recruiting class.

Baylor might be pretty bad.

KSU, Bruce is still the coach.

TTU will be bad.

Plenty of chaff in the league next year.

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux • Mar 31, 2017 01:52 PM

@BeddieKU23

Must be so difficult to recruit to Lubbock. Sorry @KUSTEVE !

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux • Mar 31, 2017 01:00 PM

@BeddieKU23

Yeah it's definitely harder to find program players now. Even the "mighty" Kentucky, both their recent program players are Kentucky boys Willis and Hawkins.

Duke until recently, seemed to have 5 stars be content to be bench warmers. But now we are finally seeing some transfers.

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux • Mar 31, 2017 12:51 PM

@BeddieKU23

Have to close Grimes.

(original post)

offered grimes tonight

Would have included Grimes on that list but hear Kansas leads and by maybe a wide margin.

KU Players Leaving/Staying Tracker • Mar 31, 2017 01:26 AM

@jayballer54

Yeah kind of an odd highlight video. Markese is good though, probably gonna be a McDAA and top 25 before it's all said and done. Esp if he gets taller.

KU Players Leaving/Staying Tracker • Mar 31, 2017 01:25 AM

Newman will play a year for KU. He promised Self.

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux • Mar 31, 2017 01:22 AM

@mayjay

Like @BeddieKU23 said KU was interested in Bamba, he just never reciprocated that interest.

Oh and I would bet it's VCU, but good that KU has shown interest.

2017-18 Schedule • Mar 30, 2017 04:48 PM

@JayHawkFanToo

No way...

2017-18 Schedule • Mar 30, 2017 04:29 PM

@BeddieKU23

Nebraska fans don't even know what a basketball is.

2017-18 Schedule • Mar 30, 2017 04:28 PM

@BeddieKU23 said:

Nebraska's starting PF just transferred. Can't see them giving us a game next year..

Wow...

I bet they will be worse than some of the mid-majors KU plays.

2017-18 Schedule • Mar 30, 2017 04:26 PM

@JayHawkFanToo

Do we know if Fultz quit going to class? It's a big part of "Simmonsing". :grinning:

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux • Mar 30, 2017 04:24 PM

Yeah Smart can eat dirt. Big 12 is going to be way down next year and I don't think late recruits can change that.

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux • Mar 30, 2017 03:39 PM

@Crimsonorblue22

Also playing out of position.

2017-18 Schedule • Mar 30, 2017 03:38 PM

@JayHawkFanToo

I could see this being Ben Simmons II.

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux • Mar 30, 2017 03:37 PM

@Crimsonorblue22

Giles and Bolden massively underperformed. Jeter looks like a Bragg situation where people were just wrong.

2017-18 Schedule • Mar 30, 2017 03:34 PM

@Crimsonorblue22

You are not the first to draw that comparison. It might have been a rough first year for him at KU.

2017-18 Schedule • Mar 30, 2017 03:27 PM

@Crimsonorblue22

Young will drive Kruger mad at times. Still would have loved to have him at KU but if Graham's heat checks bother anyone, well those people can be glad Young is at OU.

2017-18 Schedule • Mar 30, 2017 03:21 PM

@JayHawkFanToo

Porter and Young are both black holes.

Recruiting Master Thread Part Deux • Mar 30, 2017 03:19 PM

@BeddieKU23

If I'm a big I run away from Duke but no doubt they will continue to land just about whoever they want.