@kjayhawks said in Hot Take: We Overvalue our own players:
@BShark I agree, would’ve liked to keep him but not for what the rumor mill says he getting money wise. Auburn is rumored to have offered him 3 million and Indiana 2 million. With how he played down the stretch and his no contact clause in the portal. I’d bet good money he knew what he was doing as soon as the season was over.
Kansas 1.2 Auburn 1.8
@approxinfinity said in Hot Take: We Overvalue our own players:
@Texas-Hawk-10 thanks for a well considered rational counter-perspective. I’m still unclear exactly how much cheddar we are operating with. How does Auburn have that much more than us?
Auburn right now is willing to SPEND MORE right now. Sounds like Self is being judicious after some previous high profile flame outs...
The kid we just got wasn't cheap fwiw. The cost of doing business these days is high, especially for good players.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in The portal.:
@Jhawk69 said in The portal.:
Why do you think Dawkins is a good fit for Self's system and a good compliment for Darryn?
Bill Self runs a version of a motion offense. Motion offenses involve lots of cuts, screens, picks, and other actions that require being able to read the defense and make quick decisions for the guards and wings. Basically, players have to be able to move without ball very well to create the offensive looks needed whether it's a 3, a post up, a back cut for a lob, or a post up, or a kick out.
Loyola-Chicago fans have said that moving without the ball is a strength of his and since he's know as a good catch and shoot player. That works well for Self's offense because he can get a quick shot off coming off a screen, or he can cut to a corner or wing for a kick out shot. He's also good a drawing fouls so if a defender closes out too hard, he can drive by and create contact in the lane.
He's basically a bigger version of Diggy on offense if you go back amd watch Diggy play next to Dejuan and how much he ran around to get open.
This is also why I also like the Tre White fit, should we be able to add him.
@TYOHawk said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
@Jhawk69 said in The portal.:
What do we make of Jayden Dawson?
The answer to what Kurtis Townsend was actually doing in New York. :grinning_face_with_big_eyes:
Now relax..he also had a party to attend with Darryn and family as well.
Truly a legend.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in The portal.:
@Bosthawk said in The portal.:
@Kcmatt7
Totally agree… Self’s coaching style, pulling guys when they make a mistake, KILLS confidence… Rylan and A.J were both playing with trepidation because of that. He needs to have a MUCH longer leash, and let’s these guys play thru some errors, and it will pay off towards the end of the season. They will grow into studs.AJ and Rylan were bad fits because they didn't know how to play in a motion offense and we're frequently out of position. Storr was getting better towards the end of the season, but Rylan never seemed to grasp the concepts and was frequently out of position on offense.
The good news here is Loyola seems to actually run an offense.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Bashir brothers are from Omaha, same as Dawson.
@Jhawk69 said in The portal.:
What do we make of Jayden Dawson?
The answer to what Kurtis Townsend was actually doing in New York. :grinning_face_with_big_eyes:
Also what if Flory just wants to be at Auburn
Really killed CB's career. Poor Wiggs as well. If you can hoop you can hoop. Eff out of here with that nonsense.
@TYOHawk said in The portal.:
@SlimShaddy54 said in The portal.:
@TYOHawk Well we could use that
Hoping he can be somewhat similar to Sion James from Duke.
Yep you need tough guys that have been around the block
@approxinfinity said in Hot Take: We Overvalue our own players:
We said the same about Zuby.
I always liked Zuby. Said we should have kept him but not Udeh. Worth noting though that Zuby went off year 3 and KU is all in on next year for many reasons.
I'm seeing so many takes on Flory that make me feel like I'm taking crazy pills. He is fine and will get better but what he was last year is more than replaceable. He was downright bad down the stretch.
@dylans said in The portal.:
@BShark will it cap the earnings? Appearance fees can be very high if not.
That I do not know.
@dylans said in The portal.:
@TYOHawk said in The portal.:
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@FarmerJayhawk said in The portal.:
Heard Auburn’s number for Flory is around $3m
Need a salary cap. It would be more interesting to see how big schools budget their resources as opposed to just outspending everyone Yankees style. More interesting (at least for me- I like the numbers side too) as well as more competitive.
Isn’t the revenue sharing more or less about to put a salary cap on things?
Maybe. Supposedly. Depends on outside revenue streams. I’m not sure if NIL will 100% fall under that umbrella or if it’s just a second pot of gold for the players. 20.5 mil for all sports in total seems like less than is being spent currently.
NIL deals will have to be cleared by the NCAA now going forward. Has to be "legitimate" like the kid actually does something for the money. Makes an appearance etc
@TYOHawk said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
Storr could return,I'd still call it unlikely.
What a plot twist
The talk is he wants to return at this point and that Bill is mulling it over.
@approxinfinity said in The portal.:
@DanR eh. Lets see. This season was high expectations and low results. Maybe next will be the opposite.
Darryn and the miracles. We ride.
Storr could return,I'd still call it unlikely.
@FarmerJayhawk said in The portal.:
I’d anticipate news of visits this week
I'm anticipating a visitor tomorrow.
@Woodrow said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
Sounds like some major fundraising was done recently. Self and Goff took a fundraising trip down to Texas together. Had to improve the NIL situation with recent changes to the transfer market.
When are they going to use it!! :)
Hopefully soon! XD
Sounds like some major fundraising was done recently. Self and Goff took a fundraising trip down to Texas together. Had to improve the NIL situation with recent changes to the transfer market.
@dylans said in The portal.:
Need contracts in the ncaa. Until then it’s just a yearly bidding war for each player that you lured in with money. Traditional recruiting has been corrupted.
Apparently going to happen soon-ish
Flory's "handler" has been posting on the phog. About all you need to know about that guy.
@approxinfinity said in The portal.:
I still won’t understand if we can’t retain Bidunga. Surely we can offer him a competitive salary and starter minutes at a flagship program. Regardless of etiquette regarding portal, won’t the ends justify the means? Flory is the key to continuity.
The main thing is maybe they don't see Flory as a guy worth two million dollars. Maybe some more time spent talking to other players and agents will change that.
Also it's not all about the money on this one. The locker room and culture was beyond rancid this last season.
@MR11 said in The portal.:
Anyone heard an update on what is going on with Storr? For somebody that everyone was certain that he was going to enter it is just weird that he is the last one to announce.
He will enter
The banquet is probably not going to exist going forward. A thing of the past given the new landscape of college basketball.
@BigBad said in The portal.:
The annual postseason banquet was canceled.
1, 2, 3 FAMILY!
Tells you how Bill feels about this season. Says it all really.
@TYOHawk Asked a friend (who happens to be a long time basketball coach) about him and he had this to say:
"I pray they don’t go that route. One of the worst defenders I’ve ever seen. He has moments that make Zeke look like Tony Allen"
@TYOHawk Thought we were on the right track with some other targets but maybe just luck :loudly_crying_face:
@TYOHawk said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
This one doesn't make much sense to me but we do need bodies
Yeah lets not
LMAO
Like at least we are still recruiting given all the rumors out there but my god man.
The good news is Auburn has his brother so surely they will take him if they want.
@BShark said in The portal.:
This one doesn't make much sense to me but we do need bodies
Yeah lets not
This one doesn't make much sense to me but we do need bodies
@rockchalkjayhawk said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
@kjayhawks He was encouraged to leave.
Too bad about Passmore. He looked like he had potential on D, and he has the proper size and athleticism to compete. I was hoping he’d stick around a few years or so as a foundational piece.
I saw a few flashes this year. Obviously limited viewing opportunities.
These are the kind of guys Bill develops.
Yeah, I wish there was time to develop anymore...
@kjayhawks said in The portal.:
@BShark I don’t agree with that but let just have to hope things work out. He looked like a good player in a few years if he stuck around. We ain’t gonna be able to get a bunch portal guys that want to sit on the bench
Ask @TYOHawk about my Passmore information. It comes from the best possible place. There is also a small scenario where he would be back but I would not bet money on that.
@kjayhawks He was encouraged to leave.
I'm getting there too
@approxinfinity said in The portal.:
@kuballin10 try not to gloat too much. You dont want people to feel bad about agreeing with you, do you?
I'm going to abide by the golden rule right now but holy moly I need to log off
@TYOHawk said in The portal.:
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@Texas-Hawk-10 said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
Broken trust and lack of developmental coaching...
This is the red flag for Self to shake up the coaching staff and hire a GM to manage NIL for the program.
Changes are coming.
We just gonna move Doc to a GM role
I'd die, but no.
@Texas-Hawk-10 said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
Broken trust and lack of developmental coaching...
This is the red flag for Self to shake up the coaching staff and hire a GM to manage NIL for the program.
Changes are coming.
@TYOHawk said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
@patoh3 said in The portal.:
@BShark I hear Passmore is likely leaving too. I am really pissed that we turn our backs on kids that chose to come here. Maybe it will be different when Bill retires.
He will leave. Basically forced out.
Now this pisses me off even more.
I need a bit of a detox first but we can go in depth later.
@patoh3 said in The portal.:
@BShark I hear Passmore is likely leaving too. I am really pissed that we turn our backs on kids that chose to come here. Maybe it will be different when Bill retires.
He will leave. Basically forced out.
Broken trust and lack of developmental coaching...
Flory is in officially now
@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
@BShark said in The portal.:
@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
Doesn't look like Hall will be a hawk
Wouldn't say that at all at this point.
KU/Ark/Ole Miss/Ohio State battle.
Interesting school list. Forgot trilly posted the OSU, Ole Miss prior. Arkansas has cash for sure
Yep all four schools there are loaded.
I think we will have two more major waves of good players entering.
@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
Doesn't look like Hall will be a hawk
Wouldn't say that at all at this point.
KU/Ark/Ole Miss/Ohio State battle.