If we make layups, dont travel and just stay in front I'm betting we'd be up. But since we can't do any of that we trail. Good learning curve for this bunch
BeddieKU23
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wissox said:
Glad Vick came back.
Only reason we are in the game
Complete junk
Figured the first 4 would be a nice bill self time out get his red face on
When we take this game serious we will win
Redic
Refs take a walk
His blurb today was to recap his recruitment plus others in the midwest (Hurt, Carey, Brooks, Davis etc) that haven't committed yet. I was just sharing what's been printed
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
I'll have to dig on this guy but maybe one to watch in the spring?
Tre Mitchell 6'9 PF/C #93 rivals, #83 247
RIVALS' REACTION
With Mitchell announcing he’s going to be signing late, it obviously allows time for schools to come in and sway him from the schools that have put in the time to this point in his recruitment. Right now, it’d be hard to argue against Notre Dame and UConn being called the leaders of the pack. This will be an interesting to track throughout his senior year because it wouldn’t be a big surprise if some new high profile schools come into the picture.I don't think he would have much of an impact. Too bulky, looks like a true center.
I'll have to look him up and see what he looks like. Was just scanning this and with him signing late maybe someone the staff evaluates if options dry up
Bossi reporting KU/Oregon for Stanley
Checking in at No. 31 overall, the super athletic shooting guard at Chatsworth (Calif.) Sierra Canyon has completed official visits to Kansas, Oregon and UCLA and is in decision-making mode. Thought for a while had been that UCLA could end up the most likely landing spot. However, over the last week or so more talk about Oregon or Kansas being his destination has popped up. Somehow pulling Stanley off of the West Coast would be a pretty big score for the Jayhawks.
Sunday night, Stanley’s father told me a decision date hasn’t yet been set and that the family has to sit down and make a final decision. Though nothing is set, I would be mildly surprised if Stanley doesn’t announce a decision in the relatively near future.
I'll have to dig on this guy but maybe one to watch in the spring?
Tre Mitchell 6'9 PF/C #93 rivals, #83 247
RIVALS' REACTION
With Mitchell announcing he’s going to be signing late, it obviously allows time for schools to come in and sway him from the schools that have put in the time to this point in his recruitment. Right now, it’d be hard to argue against Notre Dame and UConn being called the leaders of the pack. This will be an interesting to track throughout his senior year because it wouldn’t be a big surprise if some new high profile schools come into the picture.
I agree Gonzaga should give them a heck of a game. They won't back down from the challenge. With Tillie I'd pick them to win but its difficult to see them winning without him. He's their best player.
Iowa St is likely without Wigginton for a while who's in a boot. Tough to win without your best player.
This isn't your regular Arizona team. It's going to be a struggle for them without the top tier talent they are used to. Maybe they get more out of a team that lacks NBA talent as I think a lot of their teams have struggled from having "me first" types. This squad will be forced to play as a team to win otherwise they will have a hard time winning in the weak Pac-12
Rivals jumps in on Zeke.
- How should the schools that make up Zeke Nnaji's final five - Arizona, Baylor, Kansas, Purdue and UCLA - be feeling now that North Carolina was able to get in for an in home visit and secure an unofficial visit after he took all of his official visits?
Bossi: There’s no doubt in my mind that the original five finalists are concerned. In fact I bet many are feeling something much stronger than concern. But, this is big-time recruiting and these are the types of things that you have to deal with because a program like North Carolina is one of the few with the brand to jump in late like this. If I’m at any of those other programs, I’m making sure to hammer away at relationships that have been established over time.
Evans: A bit of worry and rightfully so. Nnaji was on the precipice of a decision, focused on a group of five and out of nowhere, North Carolina enters the picture at the last minute and not only offers him, but also gets a visit. Better yet, it is an unofficial visit which just shows how serious he has to be about the program that he is willing to go across the nation on his own dime and see what he Tar Heels can offer just days before committing. Now, Nnaji is not a prospect that is going to be wooed by the name of a school, as evidenced by Kentucky not even making his final list.
Do I think that this is a done deal for North Carolina? No, but of course that could change in the days ahead which could force his other finalists to reconfigure their recruiting board and find alternative options this winter.
McDonald: Nnaji visiting North Carolina has to be concerning for the other schools involved. Most coaches get nervous to begin with when a kid visits and doesn't commit shortly after. Add to that a school like North Carolina coming in and getting an unofficial visit, which obviously means out of his family's pocket, I can't imagine the other schools aren't starting to look at other options at his spot.
Brian Snow dropped a blurb on Zeke Nnaji today.
Down the home stretch for Nnaji
While the recruitment of four-star power forward Zeke Nnaji is coming to an end soon, there remains a lot of mystery surrounding where he will end up playing his college basketball.
Nnaji will make an unofficial visit to North Carolina this weekend, and from there he has a commitment date set for November 23. Because of the timing of this announcement, this means that Nnaji will not be signing during the early signing period. He will wait until the spring to put pen to paper.
This late visit to North Carolina means that the Tar Heels are definitely a major factor. Though North Carolina hasn’t been involved with Nnaji for too long, they were able to get him to make the trip, and also he is doing it on his own dime since he is out of official visits for the year.
Along with the Tar Heels, the main contenders appear to be Arizona and Kansas, though Purdue and UCLA are on the periphery, and do get a little bit of buzz. At least currently Baylor isn’t getting much talk as a serious threat to land his commitment.
Kansas was always kind of the dream school for Nnaji, but the other programs involved have definitely made this a battle. Nnaji still is fond of the Jayhawks, but this is far from a layup for Bill Self and his staff.
Upon returning from North Carolina this weekend, look for Nnaji and his father to really get down to business figuring out what the college decision will be.
A direct and fast path to professional basketball has long been the number one determining factor for Nnaji, and it will be interesting to see which school he feels offers the best opportunity in that regard.
KirkIsMyHinrich said:
The polls are so reactionary right now. It will all sort itself out. Duke has a few tough games coming up in the Maui invitational (probably Auburn in the 2nd round and Gonzaga in the championship game), so we'll see.
Gonzaga at full strength would have been a huge game in Maui. Without Tillie they probably don't have enough.
Auburn has athletes to compete but probably isn't good enough to match Duke's 3.
But it's Maui and anything can happen in a neutral environment.
Agree about the polls. As soon as the Duke game ended this was expected, its just funny really how biased the whole thing is
KU beats a top 10 team and drops. Duke would NEVER drop for winning against a Top 10 team. So much bias its not even funny. But who cares, it was one game for both in a season that's barely started. Tonight's opponent is the only one that matters
KUSTEVE said:
@BeddieKU23 I keep saying they are going to be tough. Our perimeter defense better be ready.
Depends on how 'on' Howard is against us. I mentioned the older Hauser is the other matchup worry. They lack size though and will have to rely on perimeter shooting a great deal. That's the worry though as you've said. We seem to always struggle guarding the perimeter
justanotherfan said:
Vermont probably isn't quite a tournament team this year (although last year they should have been, but were upset in the conference tourney, so maybe this year they do go). That said, they are a solid low major program. Lots of consistency year to year. They will be a nice test for our team , but I fully expect this squad to pull away in the second half and win by 18-25.
They are the best team in their league unless Stony Brook gives them a run for their money. Stony Brook just upset South Carolina. VT has gone 31-1 in the last two years in league play, they own and dominate. Still have the talent in their league to make it imo.
This isn't the same type of team that gave Purdue a good game 2 years back in the tourney. Last year was unfortunate for them as they gave away a lead and lost on a last second 3. Vermont likely hover in that 90's to 115 range as far as Kenpom & other various ranking services go. I think they are too young to predict anything lower
Vermont won their opener on the road 78-72. Lamb had 19, 14 rb & 4 blocks. They got 20+ from their new PG who had some flashes last year and looks improved for this year.
Future opponent alert:
Markus Howard of Marquette went for 37, 8 rbs with 7 3's. Great shooter will be a tough matchup
Iowa St's Wigginton is in a boot. Looks like he's going to be out a while. Huge loss for ISU.
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Kenpom says KU by 22 ftr.
That's about right. It shouldn't be close. Vermont doesn't have the horses this year to compete
The only way It happens is if KU just lays an egg. We just have way too much size at every position for them. They will defend but if they keep it under 30 they should be happy. They are breaking in 7 or 8 freshman, sophomores this yr
KU has extended over 40 offers in the class.
Everything out there points to him ending up somewhere else.
Chandler's younger brother Jonathan could be a recruit KU is involved with down the road
Monday's Opponent, home opener.
Very familiar with this Vermont team over the years being from the state myself.
They lost a ton from last years squad. They were upset in the finals of their conference tourney in the final seconds against UMBC who then when on to make history beating Virginia.
Normally VT is very good in their league (31-1) last two years - Not a typo by the way.
Becker, their coach is really good for this level and has recently turned out some really sound defensive teams. They had Kentucky on the ropes in Rupp last year before blowing the game in the final minute.
This years squad though is lacking talent to compete with the KU's of the world. They have 3 brothers on the team, the Duncan's which I'm wondering if its a record? 3 brothers on the same team at the same time? The oldest Duncan is a 3 pt specialist with over 200 3's in his career. The middle Duncan can shoot as well and will be asked to take on a significantly greater role with all the graduations from last year. The youngest has been rumored to be the best of the 3. Their best player Anthony Lamb, missed a big portion of last year with an injury but VT was so deep and had a veteran squad that they didn't miss a beat. He's a candidate to score 20 a game for them this year. He's a bruising big man with a body like Bonzie Colson & George Niang. He's only 6'6 which limits him against the P5 teams but in his league he'll be very difficult to stop.
There is no way this game is close. Should be one of the easier games KU has all year
Buffalo/ West Virginia. Too bad its not a neutral site. Buffalo knocked off Arizona and returns most of the same team. They can compete and win this one
Auburn/Washington looks like a good one
Good stuff
I'll add, he's a terrible rebounder and defender in the NBA for his size/athletic ability. Statistics back this up as well. He's also not much of a passer either but I get that's not his role.
Watched him the other night and I'm just shocked at his lack of effort in certain area's.
He's a crazy athlete and his shot has definitely improved a great deal but he just doesn't impact the game overall, certainly not enough to be worth the contract he just signed
Wiggins shooting near 40% from 3 so far. He's still one of the laziest players in the league but its good to see his shooting numbers becoming respectable
Most of their starters/scorers are Sr's, good recipe for keeping it close
Jackson only played 5 minutes last night, 7 the game before. Certainly not trending in the right direction for him
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
That's fine we'll see how it plays out. I'm not really playing the negative sell here, its what I think is the reality of the situation.
I don't think KU is even the runner up in his recruitment.
KU didn't really recruit him, from what I've heard.
Are you referring to Zeke?
Most of the Big-12 is "out-recruiting" Kansas right now. Likely to be that way until the spring
Tennessee is a great matchup for us. We play to our talent though and we win. They have a ton of experience, they play as a team well and they balance inside/out scoring. This is a great victory to have on the resume (hopefully)
Marquette has shooters, Markus Howard is one of the best in the country from 3, if not the best. They are small and the older Hauser (two brothers) is a stretch 4 so he's the mismatch in their lineup. We'll crush them in the paint, they have absolutely no chance of stopping Doke or Lawson.
That's fine we'll see how it plays out. I'm not really playing the negative sell here, its what I think is the reality of the situation.
I don't think KU is even the runner up in his recruitment.
With just KT going you know its the courtesy thanks for recruiting us visit
Fans would be disappointed in Chandler for a while, he would benefit from a red-shirt and a lot of hard work with the staff. He's not a plug and play recruit despite being in the Top 100 imo.
Good point. I hope we get back into his recruitment
BShark said:
Super obvious that it's UNC now. Rubber stamp visit.
Yup you don't take an unofficial visit to a school that didn't make your Top 5, one week before your deciding, after taking 5 official visits. Nike money wins again
justanotherfan said:
I hope those comments were to build confidence. Doke is a guy that fits on extremes. When he matches up well, he can be one of the most dominant players in the country. When he doesn't, he can be completely out of sorts on the floor. It's rare to have a player that can exist at both extremes, but Doke is that guy.
It's especially apparent because he isn't the type of guy that can hurt a team if he doesn't get to his spots. If you can push Doke out away from the basket, he can't really hurt you because he doesn't handle the ball well enough to make combination moves.
Self's in a tricky spot, here.
You make good points. If Doke is struggling with a matchup like he did Villanova last year then I hope he's smart enough to recognize that and make adjustments if needed.
We will see in a month what happens when Nova comes to town. Doke is healthy and in great shape which I don't think was the case last season, especially in the post-season. He needs to prove himself in situations like this because the NBA is watching.
Your right though Self is in a tricky spot. Azubuike is a literal (huge) advantage against most teams in the country. It sounds as if Self doesn't want to gameplan to take away one of his most explosive players on the team. That could do more harm then good from a team and individual perspective. We may just have to see if Doke can improve against matchups that don't favor him.
“He’s our first option,” Self said of Azubuike, who finished with 20 points and three rebounds. “Even though Dedric (Lawson) may lead us in scoring, everybody will tell you we want to play through Dok as much as possible.
“You know, I was probably not very bright last year, but I’ve never been a guy that thinks you take your best players out in a game. I don’t know how that breeds confidence," Self said. "But in his situation when I took him out late, I only took him out because we were switching ball screens. It didn’t have anything to do with free throws.”
Post Michigan St comments from Self on Azubuike.
It doesn't sound as if Self plans to sit Azubuike based on matchups or FT situations. He's option #1 in the offense and he doesn't believe in sitting his best players. Interesting comments
At this point I would be shocked if Zeke didn't pick Roy
Woodrow said:
Texas Tech just picked up a commit from Jahmius Ramsey. Ranked # 33 by 247.
Big pick up for them. Tech has been the favorite for him for a while
Ouch
BShark said:
I was definitely hoping he was a player KU made a push for. Just not in the cards unfortunately.
Agree he's one of my favorites in the 2020 class. I don't see any blue bloods involved which I think is odd so I wonder if the officials are just the benefit of the rules change, get some schools out the way that he may like but when he gets serious others get involved. I just can't see a player of his caliber going through his recruitment without some bigger programs stepping in.
BShark said:
@BeddieKU23 Fair enough. I had only just noticed the score, not the fact that they were without two players. KU would probably struggle without Q and Dedric.
When I looked at the box score I knew Fisher was out but Noi also being out was a big hit to them. They are lucky they survived. Dixon has his work cut of for him if his star players are out
BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Julian Strawther will take 5 official visits during his Jr year. KU is not one of them and KU wasn't listed as among the schools recruiting him. KU staff is all in on Ochai it seems or pursuing others
Damn.
Thought the same. At this point we are not serious with him. Really good player too
Julian Strawther will take 5 official visits during his Jr year. KU is not one of them and KU wasn't listed as among the schools recruiting him. KU staff is all in on Ochai it seems or pursuing others